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the more targets ptilo has to heal the more sketch it might get
whats kiraras hps? at max + module
I burst Mephisto while having Skalter, Suzu and Ptilo solo heal
Me who did this stage with melee Horn
Pilto has impressed me, I want SA now to continue the bloodline 
btw I have a question now while watching this
why are there
multiple 0 instances
because it's it
invuln when farting
just like cs
invul = 0 dmg
Exu crying
It hurt seeing multiple 700s from Irene skill 
I wonder how much DEF is had on egg
It*
I can burst Talulah but bursting Mephisto CM is still a challenge
Has anyone killed it’s egg form?
yea
Surtr
Wait Mephisto…
Isn’t that the kid boss from earlier stages
I just realized
Pozy, Surt, SA, Horn S2 
someone hasn't been reading the story 
I need to read lore why is he a bird 
If you actually kill it, he revives with 50% HP, but no invincibility thing that for 5 seconds
LOL
oh gosg
wtf y doing?
lower its HP to 50% or kill it will lower its 2nd phase HP to 50% too
uh ye
there too many choices

cement can kill god
Oooh I see
but if you keep its egg phase means it will continually regen its HP
cement shield better?
cement s2 can tank Patriot for once
I used Amiya S3 primarily against Mandragora in 9-19 for the second phase, difficult but can possibly kill his 2nd phase in 1 deploy. You'll need Aak buff though along with a supporter that inflicts damage taken increase (Suzuran or Shamare)
@vernal lion me waiting...
cement > egg

Is this stage even possible without a slow op?
Or Mastery on Amiya's skill 3
Also, has to be Caster
Those runner guys are too quick
yes
what is h7-2?
2nd phase Mandragora can't be attacked by attacks that cannot attack flying enemies
oh that
h7-2 is wraith
just kill wraiths on top

if no slower
and kill shield early
Does it have to be M3? Fiammetta?
ofc
Does Ely count as slow?
💀
yes
Ely slows?
that man does it all
I think I just blasted the right lane with Fia S2
ngl i cant remember
Oh S2
what i use on h7-2

let's see if my auto will break
ya
Wait how did you line up S2 to kill a line of wraths
Fia S2 is my most used skill on her
I can’t see it
I was cooking something strange
Did you shoot it down wards to stairs?
A little longer, I wanna see where Fia was dropped
my h7-2 auto
Was your slow ely too?
look at skill
one sec I can cook up something after this auto
He reduces def, dp printer, buffs, is cheap, does my taxes, what does he not do 
do you have archetto guwei
Unfortunately not
what ur caster?
well, you can always borrow one I guess
taunt def will be a probpem

later
How does mudrock S3 slow look like 
very slow
like 10 sec for me
e2?
But I’m bad
h7-2 is ded
Does ling autos matter? as a caster would she count?
she deals not negligible dmg, especially on skill and max stacks
I see
Ngl this auto would've been better if I placed Mud last
bw1 is pretty good for farming croissant module huh
There’s no way that’s enough then, I don’t think
nope
Hmm
ah well
not the last wave
cuz last wave was a bit too sketch
a wraith died in blue box
Is Archetto’s S1 and afk skill?
yes
but doesn't Fia s2 deal highest dps of all op? op 
It does? 
I thought there's gonna be more shieldguards

but there weren't
so I can make this better
by replacing fia to face right
and then onetapping the wraiths
It’s not mostly the damage that’s the prob, I don’t think she’ll get the 10 autos off before more wraths show up
Well I’m not sure
ah well
guweiz see
let me introduce you to why you should pull archetto
if you plan to raise fia

Weedy moment
fia's mastery gains are yummy
and I personally recommend raising her
Fiammetta is very fun to play around with
I raised fia to E2 70 cause I run her with mostima and exu for lore 
ok fia simp
She’s my next after texalter, if I get her
ok archetto simp
this is based
as well as you feed her smth to atk, like Stainless turret

Nian is the one that got me into the game
i see

300 pulls was painful on ling banner, it’s even more impressive I didn’t get a single Lee and only one ling

Nian is niche

You don’t wanna know how much yellow balls I used on sanity refreshes on LMD and Xp stages
Wish I joined the server before I made such a mistake 

Trust me, you don’t 
I E2’d 2 6* units a day for 3 days, I don’t necessarily regret but I wouldn’t done it differently if I could 
Would’ve*
I have a day 1 friend who even has hibiscus skin as proof, has every op in the game
and still doesn't have every unit e2

and is not even close
Fair to that guy I only have 1 E1 4 star and 2 E1 5 stars, rest are E2 6 stars 
Forgot i was doing a stage
I have more 5*s E2 than 6 star 
@proud drift archetto friend + fia S2 would be good enough?
if you have Chen, that will stack too lol
M0 Fia might still be short to kill everything
Not raised unfortunately
Yea but with archetto’s help maybe?
Or who’s a good slower, Gnosis?
Need to beg the like only 7 gnosis players in AK
Gnosis is decent
Gnosis isnt a slower
Oh
yea he's a debuffer role
Ange s1 is similar to Suzu s1
Is suzu a supporter class?
and a slow supporter
@vernal lion @proud drift plan is to use suzu slow then burn down burst periodically with saga S2 and thorn autos, thoughts?
I never feel so much dps like this one
Well, that's one way
I had Fia S2 kill all the shieldguards on left
so idk how it's gonna go for u
Surtr
Wait
Wouldn’t spalter sandwiched between the shieldguards
Slowly kill them
Or does she not die fast enough
Idk, should Spalter survive by Skalter heal
Did that and she didn’t die yea, had the same idea LOL
Done though, thank you guys for everything
I want suzu now too lol, every op is so cool
3 looks easy ngl, gonna try it out
Imo 4 is easier
Oh it’s PAT 
don’t we all
H7-3 was just more Fia abuse
I remember watching a fia overview and I’m like, this character is annoying why did she show up in my pulls
Now she’s my second fav
I enjoy her S 3 more and I’m saving for her masteries 
Mod, not masteries
I only have Ling mod she is my next one
S2 is a lot more fun
once you get archetto
and/or chen
also don't m3 her s1 like I did
cause you'll never use s1

unless simping purposes
Fia blasting on H7-1 is top tier satisfaction
I'm still short on lmd to E2 Saria 
Yeah you’re gonna be 16 bipolars short for masteries after that
And a few more for mod
sp battery saria is real
between turret and drones 
I just finished E2 + S2M3 Gavalter
10 nanoflake in debt already 
Saria + Gummy to turret block then Exu/Pozy/Thorns the drones
Mlynar+mudrock for temporary block and archetto+fia drone murder with eyja s3 demoltionist murder
It's funny that there's a perfect tile for Mlynar on that map lmao
bw8 feels deja vu for some reason
schwingx2
Medic Defenders would be a big help indeed
What level tho
70
No way
With e2 50 ptilo healing

uncle working hard
LOL
Where's your skalter 
look
I tried putting fia there but I didn’t get the DP quick enough and everyone started dying

Me who didn't use that tile for Fia either
I don't remember what I started out with but I do remember flagpiping all the way
vikutoria no bagupaipu

I borrowed a Thorns so my auto doesn't exist
This one is actually tricky to start
Cause Saga and Blem leaks
Before I could drop fia
I do know I mutilated Pat with Warfed Irene
Imagine not clearing that stage before GA 
So I put in Texas but no time because everyone starts dying
So I dropped NG
Hmm
Now hear me out, since this is my last, can I stream this run to you guys
@proud drift @cyan gorge
can't, got sleep soon, finishing my spaget prep for night shift 

Sure but it's 4 am here 
Thank you!
Lemme open chat on another screen so you don’t have to talk
I prefer talking tbh
Ok ok bet
Grabbing headphones I’ll be in uh
Pengu logistics in a second
It’s and it’s 3am here myself 
one of the hardest yet simple stages recently
i cant do bw-8 om
eyja + 1 defender really strong in this stage
not a strategy issue its a only having one e2 issue
i think deployment order is really important !
my medics die in 2 hits
hmm thats quite difficult then
if you borrow an ejya you can clear the backline drones
im thinking of borrowing thorns, he'll kill one and then surtr the rest
cant i just borrow mountain and duo the stage
wait for the big guys to group up and then surtr them all
or something
no you need a sniper or lord to get rid of the drones too.
theres 2-3 drone that will come to blue box like 60 secs in
so they will come in range
if you have a healing defender they will help heal your sniper/caster
hell even im having hard time ><
And don't use Manticore to block balista if you killed crusher 
yea i dont
stage seems easy i just dont have enough good operators
dw its not like theres a medal set so not a big deal 
and watch some yt guides as last resort maybe theres a way
dunno
i searched for a kyo guide and he only made one with high rarity ops
nvm he made one right after
I might m1 chetto just for the 1 drone
Or redeploy my rope
And then lol circular push
wow thats a perfect mlynar tile
hes a good arrow blocker for e0 1
does he die with ptilo 
he gets half hp per hit
technically per 6s cuz sp lock
i might have to queue croissant and snowsant skill together 
Off skill ptil is 138 hps
Balista is 900 dph every 6s
So its a bit more than ptilo can handle
1.5k hp
18.5s with mod3 for sl7 to skill
gets hit roughly 2 times if dodge first arrow
not that bad
Wonder if i can keep shaw at s1
is it possible to beat pr d 2 (guard/specialist chip stage) with only an e1 mlynar and e0 SA as guards that are available or is that asking for a lot
donut
test msg
dying to early wave?
start from sniper to kill caster and then start blocking with vanguards
copy the same for bottom and assassinate the farther casters if you want with excess ops
Or borrow e1 80 mountain and just sweep every stage up to ch4 or something 
e0 1 mlynar doing work
surprisingly didnt need to tweak auto other than cliff first fail
Always so satisfying seeing enemy getting pushed into hole far away
cm needs a few dodges to survive hm
ranged doesnt even need ptilo skill to survive tho
Are there other specific good combos here? Like the Abyssal Hunters and Mlynar-Gavial combo.
Like they get REALLY good together
blacknight liskarm?
Is it worth getting module for Proviso?
if you use her for strats sure
idk about worth but if its the epitome of clearing a stage and failing then its prob worth
if you can beat stages without it then just keep it until you lose
and then you get her module 

bro bw-8cm is obscene
mlynar tequila ethan kirara mizuki trivializes arrows 
you listed 4 ops i dont have lmao
and unfortunately mlynar requires m3 to clear the final wave of drones so technically i dont have any of them
How come the snipers in CC are targeting my honeyberry when I place like 5 ops after her?
what map is it
also is that 5 ops in range of the snipers?
near light cc
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The grand knight cc. And yeah, my honeyberry is at the very right of the map and all the other ops are closer to the snipers.
Yep, beat it super ez just cause of that. Thanks so much.
Secret m8-6 mission? Here are all my built ops (I have Myrtle built too)
Is that the rosmontis stage
Yea
Horn gaming
I don't wanna use support if possible tbh
Then I can’t help as my answer that I can share is Horn
I had the idea to use mlynar instead, but lumen can't get his heals up fast enough to where mlynar can tank the spear guys well enough
Dude if you want that shitty secret don't even consider doing it without support 
Is it just that my ops aren't well suited or is the secret really that hard
Yip
The secret is just rly stupid
Babysitting shield guard
Well i never tried Mlynar, damn i wonder if anyone even tried mlynar on this stage
Cause there’s no good tiles to properly protect them
The og strat was perfumer angelina
I feel like community just Horned entire stage and quit
But now you can horn it
I don't think i used horn for this
Yea exactly my problem, the one good tile gets sniped by the spear guys too
he needs at least one of them
I don't have perfumer built, do we just need her at e1?
Give me bag of copium i'm in
Idk if just perfumer especially at e1 will be enough
doubt
I'm too broke for this
real
It’s not like you get anything for clearing without a support
I didn't even clear this secret ending myself
Do I need the stage for any resources? I'm done with the story, just cleaning up any remaining stages and finishing off challenges
I don’t think m8-6 is farmed
I have Surtr
m8-6 is definetly not a farm map
I have silverash too, he's not at M3 yet but eh, I guess mlynar if we're not gonna use the block
what i would've done was setup a spalter and then have Hoshi deployed afterwards so the ranged guys target her
and have lumen on hoshi
so she doesn't die
but you have no spalter
no goldenglow either 💀
I cleared without horn, but it was a lot of copium
I had fia S3 aimed top right
And borrowed angelina

It’s very copium tho, bad angle
I spammed a lot of deploys on top tiles
everytime she revived shed just die again
To stagger the waves
but her doll doesn't die cuz Hoshi attracts aggro from ranged
anyways this doesn't help the guy
his squad and the stage
I'd just borrow horn lol
What about this?
Ya horn holds from bottom to top in front of guards
Mountain botlane next to red gate
Irene midlane next to gate
With a healer
what is sa for
SA in that spot is not being particularly useful
m
Main problem is the first defender
are those guys particularly tanky
I tried mlynar on M8-6, when ranged shits start attacking him he decided to not alive
stall burst strat might work
Yip, the problem I have. Could cycle with surtr maybe?
something like surtr up top to kill and then undeplot and then have Irene charge skill and kill
but
you need nightingale cage
to tank for Irene
and then when surtr is ready drop her again
idk how fast she'd die at the later waves
So replace ptilo with nightengale?
what is ptilo even doing in ur previous runs
Helping heal hoshi
Maybe? S3?
M1
rip
The red ones hurt really bad
But I basically alternated surtr and horn s3
Fuck it is when i saved first defender.... But second died 
If I had SA I probably could SA it too
Based nearl s2 enjoyer
If they'd just stop spamming ranged spear guys, this stage would be way more bearable
The ranged aren’t the problem imo
The big problem comes near the end
A few of the elite melees
Who do like 15% of shieldguard hp per hit
if you're gonna run surtr and Irene cycle you'd have to learn the best cycling times for them
even then idk if it'd work
Irene can’t cycle there sadly
No see if there were no snipers, I coulda just plopped mlynar/surtr and dealt with the melee guys
Oh well yea
I mean
Surtr works just fine for me
Even with ranged
If I had SA I probably could’ve SA’d the last wave
The only ones I couldn’t kill cycling horn and surtr
Nearl S2 helped me with DH-MO-1. Some fucking how, idk, i know it is trash, but even trash is treasure in simulator of niche situations 2020
Were the last wave melees
I mean retreat cycle
cuz I had nothing
surtr here whenever
Irene facing up with nightingale cage whenever
repeat until stage done
idk if it's doable
Based, i used heavyrain there
Irene is only at M1
I have e1 max ethan
So horn really is the only way for now
yea
I put surtr on the tile below facing left lol
Its prolly doable with ur squad if you're willing to waste ur irl sanity
There is also way of Thorns. But fucking Horn exists so why suffer
zat works too
Might make a proper, reliable guide for this stage later. I really wanted Mizuki to work but he didn’t.
I gave a few tries with Hibiscus instead of Perfumer and I think it can work given the right Rosmontis and Midnight RNG.
Not gonna try any further though, it’s a cursed stage. I play it through the same way but the last Enraged Leader ends u...
Wtf
Its old strat tbh
I did that shit before all your Horn existed
They have sa and surtr 
It is gravel, even if she dies her sibling reproduce so fast she is top 1 most pods in everyones 3rd anni stats 
And mlynar 
I wish I could be part of her reproduction
😔
I mean yeah true
🤨
Sry my cat walked over the keyboard
Just to make sure
No unfortunately
Funnily enough i didn't had Gravel in my "most pods" stat on 3rd anni. Because i had 5 6* with 2 pods and draws are all listen instead 
We need horn on S2 or S3? Cuz s2 didn't work
S3
Time to support hunt
And M3 would he very helpful
Thorns 
imagine not having horny friend
Originally his strat not using perf and gravel, he just optimized it for newb
Ik, I'd pulled on on thorns banner a couple months ago and go belmi instead
idk
not sure if i prefer ifrit or typewriter
and then there was a point where i forgot ng wasnt placed
silence really could be just removed 
no feater sucks
Thank you all
So can somebody help me with beating this stage
Bring bag of Gravels and beat her to death while she eats them
W h a t
Both phases
You kill FrostNova faster
Just use pozy
when they have exu
Now imagine you actually trying with actual operators instead leaking shieldguy like idiot at end
also, Ambriel e2 ftw
And i leveled Kroos over Exu because i am simp 

Just tested kroos alter alone enough for both phase 
Will u miss one drone?, unless its from bottom
Use Gladiia
Pog
I perfectly killed drones on every encounter with Gladiia 
I used ange for last stage CM that have drone
well the rest of squad also
i wanna try iris but dont have. Maybe indigo hopium will do
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Lungmen downtown 3op
Guys is lin good
must e2 ines for base, best rr worker
Will I have problem in anni 3 with this
In 350 come the crushers
To the top : use surtr
Bottom after to kill the drones : use ceobe
Angaist crushers leader : mlynar
idk if ceobe kills the drones at the end but other than that you should be fine
you can always force close the game instead of retreating to get full sanity refund
Because I alredy elite 2d Exusiai Mountain Ceobe Surtr and Mudrock
what exactly are you stuggling with
looks to me like this should be easy
Nice liskarm alter there
meteorite will die to ballosta or no?
But just I dont have W or Fiammetta
Anyone know whether Perfumer passive (and similar effects like Angelina passive) heal Gelato Stops?
Show squad
And units
You may suck, but you’ve played further than 90% of the playerbase

Still waiting for global to reveal CC9 risk stat to see than everyone fucking went further than my R22 
Ouch, a bit out of my area of expertise
Important mechanics to note about mandra tho
sorry to break it to you but i didnt even get past 7-9 lmao
Roccs do 12k true damage each
And disable her 60% damage reduction
And other abilities
But in p2 she can throw the roccs at you if there’s a unit 2tiles horizontally/vertically within one
i think its just that my operators hit like a wet noodle
at low level and no modules
I was gonna recommend surtr mlynar spawnkill p1, but I am unsure how well you’d handle your lanes then
They’re probably not M3 either
CAT is bitch.
One super not fun way to win her is:
Have some thicc operator and godlike medics tank her death beam which does like 4200 over 7 second
Chip all pillars to 1 hp
Stall CAT so hard her phase 1 ends
Drop every single pillar on head of CAT
Do few more hits on CAT (she is like 2k hp or so over dying to 4 pillar hits
Ambusher tank real
Mandragora fight is when you throw cat from edge of table
Tbh gummy + 2 medics should be able to tank it?
Just pray 50% dodge goes ur favor
I tanked h9-6 with blemishine kaltsit ptilopsis
Good idea, But boss moves, but targeting priority is "whoever blocks this bitch"
Idk how well smth like gummy sus and idk who else would do
yea
I hope cat is playable one day
But I also hope they don’t make her phalanx caster
Even tho it’d fit her the most
Ebenholz phalanx caster basically I guess

So you didn't read chapter 10? 
I did but I don’t remember her dying

Didn’t the elite rhodes island operator save her
The one who can cause hallucinations
Forgor his name
Mirage or whatever said "Bro, go into Sewers if you want to live" and she like "Nah, i'm fine dies of cringe"
sound totally like mandragora
Huh I remember her being ready to die
And he was like “now’s not the time”
And leaves
cat
she had sad CGI, everything in this game is VERY fucking dead if it has CGI death
Ines didn't had sad CGI and bitch survived 3 deaths
Yeah but she’s not dead
Even wiki has it only as WIA
Wounded in action
But not killed
shes like half dead
Ya but it feels like she’s setup for a redemption arc
anyway, mandragora chapter 10 in nutshell:
Asks for manager
Manager arrive
Dies of cringe
Mirage saved her and she’s gonna join rhodes island to take her revenge for all the scam
lol

She will revive, see Smug cat at Rhodes and die for real
Haha look at these guys they read story
one other way is: i dont fucking know
You need to stall phase 1 before all pillars, not drop them all on phase 1 
Phase 2 has fucking flight when not pillared and one fun feature i won't tell for fun of it
“fun”
if it was not helpless part of AKO i would link gif of cat throwing stuff of table 
I already said that she can yeet roccs in p2
(Yeet Dswopey off table on cat)
which module
y module

i love spalter
2nd module
36% and 250
lmao
Man
I'm gonna reclear 9-19
without surtr
Back then I borrowed a surtr to clear it
Ok
Back then i borrowed pillar
I remember using guardmiya
Split boxing between guardmiya and specter
Uncle is just built different
One cycled 1 and half phase

How this look?
Might fail cause bottom lane will leak to saria and things ended 
Curious, why do u need even 2 healers for gavial
Also top lane there will be lots of snipers approach then shoot continually, if u use pti skills might be fine but in case her skill isn't up and saria is still tanking with those from bottom lane, perhaps chen pass will die
That reminds me of good old wow copypasta
“Why is it called invincible if we can see it”

Invincible or invisible 
That's invisible you frog
Not
I always take every vaperon post seriously
copynoodle
i had the invisible invincible argument with someone else when i was 5
i thought invincible=invisible 
actually i thought that invisible = invincible
Do people think it's a synonym or something 
i did when i was 5 
Surprisingly yeah

Nah i mean even the local people mistake them
You mean like me

lol

I mean they out here using pound
That's a pokemon move
They can't tell 3/4 is bigger than 4/4

wtf is this
when is 3/4 bigger than 4/4
am i missing something
what
im done 
Since when 3/4 is bigger than 4/4?
4/4 is just 1 right
Yes
me when

Its all about burger
3 quarters of a burger is bigger than 4/4ths of a patty
quarter pound and third pound isn’t 1/4 and 1/3?
i’m not american
me when strategy has me questioning pound
Strategy iq in a single conversation that went from mandragora fight to invincible invisible to burgers

Wait i mistake it
Its normal strategy wdym

im actually done 
It's a 1/3 burger with 1/4 and people think 1/4 was bigger
Yes
the quarter pounder from mcdonalds is the biggest thing they have
damn my english so good 
This conversation just really describes our education system


L
Guys who should I level
It's simple fucking fraction
Who
The quarter pounder is more meta
Ok
I learn this on elementary school
im sorry
the burger with fries is actually better
yet you still typed 3/4 < 4/4 
I will raise eunectes instead of hoshiguma then
Because i don't remember
he forgor 💀
great choice Have fun with mod 3 lvl 60 m3
A lot thing been happening man i cant remember an old meme i saw 2 years ago
i like eunectes more than hoshi, she does more dmg
20 piece mcnugget or just go to Burger King instead
why did u describe my eunectes? 🤨
stalking
I need to raise my hoshi and s2m3 her

But like
Does gladiia have good damage
yea
She stronk
meh
I raided her for paradox sim
'good' dmg she okay
Raised
Dry ass burger king
I seer
I have max gladiia
preparing for cc12 i see
I don't like her
she does like 2k per pull with s2 for me
I only have 2.7m lmd is that enuf
no get more
no get better base
Give pls?
no
I need to raise 4 ops on next banner at minimum
Me with 200k
I have irene chen and hoshi to raise
god 4?

who r u raising
Not to mention incoming sexas
Texas penance skalter gg
oh
Imagine having enough lmd
FUCK there’s penance too
i got 80k hah i beat you
Penance my beloved

im rushing to e2 zumama and spalter before the limited time offer expires lmao
I farmed chip stages last week
free lmd and exp
What limited time offer















