strategy

[prime tangle]

I'm still a week and a half into the game, sorry

[pearl breach]

Also, farm those DV stage for the last 3 days. Exchange it with the LMD and EXP card for fast resources.

[sonic willow]

e1 steward, it's cheap and takes no materials

[pearl breach]

Ohh.. Also, friendly reminder. Focus on building your current squad. And fast E2 one of your operator (preferably SilverAsh or Lappy)

[prime tangle]

Oh yeah that's what I've been doing, farming the resources for EXP and LMD

Also all I am trying to do is get the free unit people.told me to get

[pearl breach]

What stage you want to clear?? I might have some operator you need

[prime tangle]

Oh all I need to do is clear until DV4

Then I won't continue and just grind for resources

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 steward, good low rarity also good for base

Also s2 lappland better for most case

[gleaming lodge]

Go as far as you can yeah, always good for the Originite Primes and event currency
Also, focus on building your base first, so SK stages are a priority
Go for a 2 trading posts, 5 factories, 2 power plant for the highest efficiency (it's called 252 setup)

Also, welcome to the game

[pearl breach]

252 enjoyers

Noice

[glass monolith]

243 max appreciators

[pearl breach]

Both is nice.. however more factories is nice. Esp when you can farm orondum without hurting your income.

I wish I learned that earlier.

[gleaming lodge]

There is no question
252 outputs more
Final dot

[sonic willow]

I have permanent account damage copers

[prime tangle]

Oh yeah I was told not to upgrade office and go for 252

[pearl breach]

This dude know his shitt. More people should try 252 setup.

[prime tangle]

But I never knew what 252 meant

[pearl breach]

Im wondering what your factory setup though

[storm current]

Well its just trading post/factory/power plant

[prime tangle]

I'll get a screenshot hold on

[storm current]

The thing is, you dont need 3 power plant to unlock and upgrade factory, which are the main source of production

So you build 2 and save another slot for factory

[lethal dragon]

Don't level up office

[lethal dragon]

Don't level up office keep it at level 1

[sonic willow]

upgrade your first power plant, upgrade your trading posts to lv2

[prime tangle]

Oh yeah that was told.to me when I was new

[sonic willow]

I may or may not have been the one who told you that

actually nvm, it was to someone else

[pearl breach]

Basically, what they meant by 252
You dont level up your office. So you have more energy for another three factory.

Hence 2 trading post 5 factories 2 powerplant.
You sacrifice the max lvl of office and factories for more production and flexibility.

[prime tangle]

Maybe after I finish dv3 and 4 I'll grind for the mats to make the crate

[pearl breach]

If AK allow us to send the resources. I will send you enough material for your base. I just exchange 2000 worth of building material for "furniture parts" yesterday

[gleaming lodge]

But yeah, setting up your base fast is important
I believe 4-7 is where the last upgrade material for the control center is at

[prime tangle]

I'm at 2-8 I think

[pearl breach]

For a new player, completing a base is a high priority. Then E2 your squad.

[sonic willow]

just aim for lv2 TP with lv2 powerplant for now. it's cheap so you can still farm event after setting it up

[pearl breach]

Whether you are 243 or 252 enjoyers.

Both is fine.

[elder flume]

153 here

[pearl breach]

Whale?

[elder flume]

no i just need exp

[pearl breach]

Either its a meme account or you are just a humble whale

[sonic willow]

I don't see the point in doing 153 if not whale

[storm current]

Generally you will need more lmd than exp

So you only do 153 if you dedicate to farming CE6

[pearl breach]

True.. whale are on different realms

Once I saw a whale account. They got all pot6 6&5 star operator. Yet, they decide not to use them because they want to nerf themself

[pearl breach]

Is your factory dedicated for exp card only?? Did you farm orondum?

Im curious

[sonic willow]

people with a lot of money are weird

I want to be weird

[storm current]

currently

if you run 5 factory

you will dedicate 3 gold + 2 exp

and drone trading post for lmd

which is the optimal play since you need more lmd than exp

[pearl breach]

Its true.

I did the math for CE6.
So every sanity you spend will get you around 250 LMD at max.

For me, the best way to get LMD is from base, event reward or integrated strategies which will give you around 1.3-1.5 mil LMD in total.

[near folio]

I have lvl 3 office and reception 252

And honestly its not bad

Most important is both trading posts are maxed

[prime tangle]

Oh well

[near folio]

To be honest the DV event is quite hard as a new player

[prime tangle]

I got too focused on the top and accidentally let one slip at the bottom

[near folio]

Dont feel bad

[prime tangle]

I think I will absolutely die in dv4

[verbal vine]

Take ur Time

[sonic willow]

dv is a funny event

[elder flume]

2 trap stages

more than most events

[civic nest]

leite lied to me

ex-8 was easy

[elder flume]

surprised no one is talking about missing texture robots

ig theyre all bursted down before finding

[civic nest]

wait there’s a missing texture robots?

which map

[elder flume]

any map with 2 sleeping robots

1 goes awake

and must die the same frame the other one wakes up

i think thats how it goes

[civic nest]

i don’t think a lot of ppl will encounter that

[elder flume]

successful attempts would make the new awake robot pitch black or transparent

[civic nest]

sounds really goofy

[elder flume]

they do go back to being normal when attacked so

[sonic willow]

very interesting

[elder flume]

ugh copy paste not working

exu oriented r18w1
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Rg4y1W7no/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[prime tangle]

I might actually cry tears of joy

[sonic willow]

does that work with 2 star clear

[glass monolith]

It is Astgenne time

[verbal vine]

Congrats

[sonic willow]

very interesting assortment of characters

[prime tangle]

I did a 3 star lol

It looks really dumb but the important thing is that it worked

All I needed to do was borrow a defender

[glass monolith]

If it works it works. If it doesn't - Surtr Ling Chalter

[prime tangle]

I traded my entire stock of money and xp for 1 free 5 star

Honestly worth it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cliffheart

[near folio]

Whats the challenge condition for DV-EX-8 CM?

[prime tangle]

Oh I couldn't take a screenshot after I upgraded ast

[scarlet fulcrum]

More enemies (1) appear. And its dorothy

[prime tangle]

But now I have no more LMD

[frail wagon]

More enemy will spawn (it’s only Dorothy lmao)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Squishy enemy

[tidal sedge]

Guys what should I do

[near folio]

Oh so that's why I see her in enemy info

[frail wagon]

But Dorothy is just painful on that CM if you don’t get her off early

Like dorothy on DV-5 and EX-7 (even CM) can be spared for me

But on EX-8 CM she just hits hard for no reasons

[tidal sedge]

I agree

[near folio]

Can one skadi deploy finish her off?

[frail wagon]

Nope

I tried it with S2M3 Skadi already

[near folio]

I see

[frail wagon]

Dorothy have high def so Surtr works better

(And since she’s unblockable ofc)

[near folio]

Am using this team

[frail wagon]

Maybe good enough with Surtr support unit but idk

Shamare can help surviving those shockwaves

[near folio]

Maybe dont even need surtr

[frail wagon]

(It hits so hard)

[near folio]

Can dorothy be stunned?

Maybe I can cheese her with Liskarm + Skadi

[frail wagon]

Nah you actually kinda really need Surtr on EX-8 CM for it to be easier

[tidal sedge]

How about a dam robot stunner

[frail wagon]

Since the inactive robots ofc

[near folio]

I managed to clear normal ex-8 with this team

[frail wagon]

Dorothy can’t be stunned it seems

She would still be able to walk away from Skadi’s range while still having like a bunch of hp left

[tidal sedge]

Why is Dorothy stronger than playable

[frail wagon]

Just her HP and def stats

Playable Dorothy is still great (definitely not because I have an M6 Dorothy waiting for M9…)

[tidal sedge]

She can walk

[frail wagon]

Real

[tidal sedge]

[frigid kite]

Kill Dorothy with Skadi + Shamare doll

[scarlet fulcrum]

840 def and 20 res on cm

Well its only appear on cm

[signal lichen]

dorothy jump scare on cm

time to nuke

[prime tangle]

I need a bit of help on 2-10

[signal lichen]

do u have a leveled melantha?

[sonic willow]

#strategy message

any of their 2 guards work there 💀 don't suggest building mel

[signal lichen]

not suggesting building it

was asking

u can use like anything on the top corner

i just perfer her there

like silver ash lap or whatever actually also works there

[storm current]

cutter work too

[signal lichen]

i would bring an aoe caster tho more so 12f

12f just baits so nicely

[prime tangle]

Ohh right I forgot I already asked

Thanks

[vernal lion]

who needs pillar

just random bullshit and go

[sonic willow]

[near folio]

Wtf the phase 2 is insane

[elder flume]

killed boss too fast

[vernal lion]

tell me about that

map looks like a mess

[signal lichen]

this map is a mess

[warped nova]

Uh, hi.
Me again
I need help with DV-EX-7
This is the team I've been trying with but it's
Not working

I'm not very smart sometimes so that's probably part of it

[foggy grove]

eyja the sleeping robot
surtr the robot that comes from red box

🤔

[heady hedge]

why borrow a saria

[vernal lion]

I think his issue is how to survive to Dorothy

[near folio]

Tbh its probably too late if the boss is already there?

[warped nova]

She ^^"

but yeeeee..

[foggy grove]

doro is not much of a threat no?
my perf and saria doesn't feel anything

[frail wagon]

Why do people keep dying to Dorothy on that stage while I live perfectly fine

[foggy grove]

🤔

[heady hedge]

er

placement issue?

[sonic willow]

like... just kill dorothy

[frail wagon]

Probably because of that

[heady hedge]

what i do is just face my stuff towards the blue box

[gentle finch]

noobs

[scarlet ledge]

bro she annoyance

[near folio]

Apparently Skadi S2M3 + Tequila S2M3 with Shamare doll can kill CM Dorothy

[scarlet ledge]

thats it

[foggy grove]

ye can also just spawnkill with sa+surtr

[frail wagon]

Dorothy can just kill ranged units quickly

[sonic willow]

they have surtr sa 💀 why is dorothy an issue

[heady hedge]

i assume shes going for the achievement

unless this is ex

medal i mean

[near folio]

What's the pathing of the boss in ex-8?

[vernal lion]

I mean, the medal

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i guess they are overwhelm by balls?

[vernal lion]

[scarlet ledge]

[near folio]

Will the boss cover all blocked tiles?

[sonic willow]

💀 oh right non cm

[near folio]

Or will the boss go down first then to blue box?

[elder flume]

late is if its in front of blue box

[gentle finch]

it goes in a wiggle kind of pattern

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ex also need dorothy to survive on normal mode

[gentle finch]

there it is

slight wiggle

[heady hedge]

so for ex7

you surtr and eyja the robots

place a vanguard if you need dp

[gentle finch]

mhm

[near folio]

My only reliable damage against the robots is Blemishine

[heady hedge]

place medics first

[gentle finch]

surtr for the robots at the enemy spawner where Dorothy comes from

[heady hedge]

then melee so your medics dont die

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dorothy route more simple in 7 tbh

[near folio]

Tequila needs 2 activations with shamare doll to kill a single robot

[heady hedge]

ye its p.simple

[gentle finch]

eyja can't kill all the rest of robots in one cycle so one might activate if you're not careful

[heady hedge]

huh

doesnt eyja one cycle robots?

mine does, at least

[near folio]

Can S2M3 Skadi kill a dormant robot with shamare doll?

[gentle finch]

i said she doesn't kill all

meaning one is out of range

[heady hedge]

on

oh

[gentle finch]

unless I have Alzheimer's

[frail wagon]

Yeah

[normal flume]

night two of trying to beat dv-ex-8 on low rarity. is anyone free to help me out through some guides?

i'll set up a stream

[vernal lion]

also, 1 vanguard and it's not flagbearer archetype,
that can explain why you can't setup squad in time

[heady hedge]

you can switch out exu

probably

[gentle finch]

exu is kind of useless this event

[heady hedge]

exu does nothing

[signal lichen]

rip aa snipers

[gentle finch]

she helps kill boss in DV-8 cuz there's no other mobs in range

[heady hedge]

alternatively you can just borrow ling

[sonic willow]

helping kill boss 5dmg at a time

[heady hedge]

but i know how much this channel hates ling

[warped nova]

ok
so i got lost because theres way to many people talking
does Dorothy need to survive in the EX stage?
And I just like Courier
I'll swap exu for Myrtle

[pure orchid]

[heady hedge]

no

[frail wagon]

No don’t swap exu

[foggy grove]

if you want medal yes she need to survive on ex

[heady hedge]

oh wait

[foggy grove]

else can just kill her

[heady hedge]

why did i thought ex was cm

lol

er

[frigid kite]

Guessed

[heady hedge]

dorothy shouldnt kill your ranged

[frigid kite]

Did it already?

[heady hedge]

if you place ranged + melee

ranged first, melee later

[gentle finch]

works out in the end

[heady hedge]

whats exu gonna do tho

[gentle finch]

for ex-8 you could wait until nothing else spawns but there's better options

[frail wagon]

Oh wait I thought

[warped nova]

I'm confused
You guys said shes useless but i should keep her in the squad???

[frail wagon]

They meant by changing the flag bearer into exu

My bad

[gentle finch]

nope

[heady hedge]

nono

[gentle finch]

you can leak

[heady hedge]

swap out exu for myrtle

[frigid kite]

Which stage?

[gentle finch]

ex-7

[heady hedge]

exu is trash

[frigid kite]

Ok

Yeah exu won't do much

[frail wagon]

Only on this event lmao

[frigid kite]

Anyways

[heady hedge]

eh, nowadays i dont even touch exu

[frigid kite]

You can do the stage with the stuff you have, including exu

[frail wagon]

Those enemies have like over 1k defense rip

[frigid kite]

Need a strat?

Or why do you lose?

[gentle finch]

exu not needed, myrtle would be better

more dp > random sniper that does no damage

[warped nova]

I need a strat, everyone keeps dieng even if i kill dorothy straight away, and there are so many people talking and making me feel overwhelmed that I'm really confused

[gentle finch]

wrong image

[heady hedge]

wtf

[gentle finch]

..

[frigid kite]

Alright

[heady hedge]

i dont see how you are dying

hmm

are you killing robots immediately?

[frigid kite]

I'll do a strat quickly

[gentle finch]

you don't need to spawn kill Dorothy @warped nova

just set up medics and stuff

surtr the robots at the far right

eyja the other robots

[warped nova]

I already said, I can be kinda stupid, didn't i?
I'ts been a while since I played and this event is difficult

[frigid kite]

Was it normal or CM?

[foggy grove]

ex

[warped nova]

DV-EX-7, Normal.

[heady hedge]

can someone send ex7 map

[gentle finch]

one stray robot might awaken but hoshiguma should be able to tank long enough
if you position Lapland right she can hit this sleeping robot that's outside of eyja range

[frigid kite]

Ok

[heady hedge]

im too lazy to open ak

[foggy grove]

just let abanicador guy do the strat,too many cooks yada yada

[gentle finch]

actually cuora might tank better than hoshi?

[vernal lion]

ok so you want the medal "leaking Dorothy" or not?

[gentle finch]

true.

[smoky crescent]

hoshi has % resist dmg talent so if rng god bless u she is the tankiest

[gentle finch]

true

[turbid badge]

Why honey berry

[gentle finch]

well it prolly don't matter

[gentle finch]

read up

[heady hedge]

doesnt matter

[gentle finch]

that too

if he has shining that'd be for the best

[turbid badge]

why borrow saria? just borrow another arts dps

[gentle finch]

read up

[turbid badge]

ohh

wrong image?

[gentle finch]

nevermind

[turbid badge]

[gentle finch]

a guy asked for help and i resent his squad

uz tye image got pushed up

cuz the

[warped nova]

She ^^""
And I do have shining
... And Nightinggale

[turbid badge]

ohhh

[heady hedge]

wait

are they e2?

[gentle finch]

does Dorothy do arts or phys

idek

[warped nova]

Nightingale is, shining is not

[heady hedge]

oh.

i think any medic works honestly my medic was literally just skalter and ptilo

[gentle finch]

ok shining won't matter if she e1

but yeah

[gentle finch]

we are waiting on this guy

[smoky crescent]

which stage anyways? dv ex 7 cm?

[gentle finch]

normal mode.

[smoky crescent]

normal mode has medal

[gentle finch]

yeah

[smoky crescent]

dont kill dorothy but i accidentially killed her some

[heady hedge]

im just waiting for him too but a general guide would just be, place two vg, surtr right side, eyja middle robots, place medic, defender lapp on bot, medic sa defender on top

[glass monolith]

EX Dorothy: Please, come in
EX CM Dorothy: YOU GOING TO BRAZIL

[scarlet ledge]

pro minus

how

[gentle finch]

my strat was basically to eyja and surtr every robot (one guy survived and gets awakened later) while tanking top lane with a dps behind defender + medic
bottom lane had thorns + medic + medic defender but i swapped him out for another defender to tank the robot tha awakens later
surtr was able to redeploy fast enough to kill this robot
at this point stage is almost over you just needa tank Dorothy until she leaks

[heady hedge]

ye basically what i just said lol

[gentle finch]

👍

[heady hedge]

you want to face them away from dorothy

your dps at least

if robot awakens, justr

[gentle finch]

yeah

just make sure

the robot is blocked by a defender first

if you drop surtr early the robot will fuck her up

depending on how top lane tanks someone might die to Dorothy

[near folio]

Uhh, looks like there is a problem

A problem that's hard to solve

[gentle finch]

nightingale as medic can fix this with skill + cage

[heady hedge]

what happened LOL

is that p1 or p2 boss

[near folio]

It just turned P2

[signal lichen]

[foggy grove]

lol

[gentle finch]

just turned?

[turbid badge]

i borrowed specter alter

she works great for here

[gentle finch]

you killed too slow

it'll leak unless u burst it down lol

[near folio]

Tequila and Skadi are my only dps against the boss

[smoky crescent]

borrow surtr to kill robots and boss

[gentle finch]

skadi S2?

[near folio]

Yes

Does the boss share damage with the robot?

[signal lichen]

man this stage is just frekaing annoying lmao

[smoky crescent]

agree

[near folio]

I'll have to kill the boss in 1 Tequila and 2 Skadis if I want to secure a good kill

[turbid badge]

@warped nova Just kill all the robots; before activation

and thanredeploy eyja and surtr , my lumen and gravel are both e1 and my nearl died in like 2 hits from robot but surtr managed to redeply and kill the robot , i borrowed spec alter! hope this helps

[signal lichen]

just not the biggest fan of constant dps checks

[near folio]

Neither am I

[warped nova]

itd help if i knew where you deployed first ^^"
Like, I can grasp timing and stuff but, I need to have a deployment guide, basically, that I can adapt / work with. Hopefully I'll be able to get better and get my grasp back with the game after... not to much longer

[turbid badge]

o icic

[warped nova]

Placement is 100% what I struggle with

[heady hedge]

you want to place vanguards first

then medics

guards

then defenders

just place defenders last so that medics dont get hit by ball

[warped nova]

.....I'm not that stupid.

[latent anvil]

[heady hedge]

i...

[latent anvil]

"am sorry" there I finished it for you, ALL GOOD

[turbid badge]

ah okay

I have a video

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dw u just ansewered their problem dest

[gentle finch]

🥶

[foggy grove]

wao dalao

[gentle finch]

seems like you used shining skil

skill

[frigid kite]

Yup

[gentle finch]

around 18-24 enemies

[turbid badge]

ahgg

[frigid kite]

Warfarin S1 will do

[gentle finch]

ye

[turbid badge]

the video is too big

[scarlet fulcrum]

L

[latent anvil]

Must make a YouTube channel then

[turbid badge]

WAIT

[vernal lion]

@warped nova
https://streamable.com/q4f23f

as same as your squad

[turbid badge]

streamable

[gentle finch]

goat

[vernal lion]

someone didn't know that you can silence the repair ability of the enemy engineer

[frigid kite]

Wonders

[heady hedge]

you dont even need to

[wary wing]

you can?

[vernal lion]

yes

[wary wing]

wow

[heady hedge]

i tried just now

[wary wing]

how irrelevant

[scarlet fulcrum]

some enemies sliencable yes

[heady hedge]

surtr, eyja surtr kill all robots w/o them reviving

[turbid badge]

yea

Surtr and eyja kill all the robots

Well maybe cuz Sa talent

but i probably messed up some timings but yah

[signal lichen]

nuked dv ex 8 screw dps checks

cm mode

[frigid kite]

Alright

Anyone else needs help?

[vernal lion]

also, I should deploy Silence for Hoshi

my bad

the squad still works for CM too

[signal lichen]

u probably should put silence up there

[vernal lion]

yea I know

[elder flume]

58 78 80 93 108

thonk

might just kill the first 3

[gentle finch]

where can I see this info

[elder flume]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/act19side_ex03

[gentle finch]

thanks

[near folio]

Im so tempted to pull out the soortor

[frigid kite]

Stage+

?

[near folio]

DV-EX-8 CM

I was using this team

But this team cant handle phase 2

[gentle finch]

interesting

[near folio]

All my healers just die

[frigid kite]

Ah

[near folio]

I can kill Dorothy fast

[turbid badge]

o

[gentle finch]

can or can't

[frigid kite]

Die to who?

[turbid badge]

yeahh

ptobably the Dorothy creation attack

[near folio]

The rocket robots

[gentle finch]

ah

[near folio]

My strat doesnt kill them in phase 1

[turbid badge]

ohh

[frigid kite]

Lol

Who else do you have aside from mint

[turbid badge]

[gentle finch]

eyja solved this for me

[near folio]

Nothing

[signal lichen]

eyja has been very good girl this event

[turbid badge]

Killing the rocket robots does make healing hard yea

[signal lichen]

[gentle finch]

nothing 🥶

[frigid kite]

Not even amiya?

[near folio]

I need Mint there to block some shots for my Perfumer

I hate this stage layout

Cant keep my healers safe

[turbid badge]

do u borrow anyone?

[signal lichen]

everything nukes u and the healers are always in danger

yeah its a shit layout

[gentle finch]

it's fun

[frigid kite]

Ooohh

Hmm

[gentle finch]

slightly challenging

[near folio]

Maybe if im feeling a bit extreme I can bring 3 healers

[gentle finch]

lol yah you might need to pull out a surtr if you're desperate

(i had to)

[latent anvil]

[gentle finch]

actually

a level 60 m3 thorns on bot lane can kill boss with dps (P1)

but if you leave the robots alive he might target them more often and boss might no die

[wary wing]

cant you just
drop skadi on the boss until it dies?

[signal lichen]

i am fairly sure u need more dps

then skadi

[gentle finch]

yeah

[signal lichen]

u really need to stack it on

[gentle finch]

me personally i used skadi S3

sl7

[near folio]

Yeah but there is too much damage share in phase 2

[gentle finch]

but my strat is a lot different, defo won't work wit ur squad

[near folio]

And my team doesnt hold out long enough to survive the new mobs

[gentle finch]

the rocket launchers?

[near folio]

Yes

[gentle finch]

i used someone to block them

so they stop firing

[signal lichen]

well u can let them come down a bit

even more so the very last one

[gentle finch]

even though you died to the robots

you still didn't kill boss in time no?

[sonic willow]

what does phase 2 boes do even

[gentle finch]

still have to account for this

[gentle finch]

honestly idk

[near folio]

Ok do you think Rosmontis can kill those robots in one S3 with the help of shamare doll?

[gentle finch]

it seems the same to me

[sonic willow]

can't you just repeatedly slap the boss with skadi

[gentle finch]

maybe even squishier

[signal lichen]

not much just murders everything harder

[sonic willow]

she has frd module

[gentle finch]

yeh

[near folio]

That's it, time to use surtr

[signal lichen]

also works

[gentle finch]

another one has fallen

[signal lichen]

i mean its the easiest way to just rip down the sleeping robots

[gentle finch]

name checks out

[gentle finch]

feel like eyja works better

[signal lichen]

the placements on this map are

awkward but she does

[gentle finch]

for normal mode it's perfectly fine

for cm her second deployment dies to Dorothy

but i used nightingale next to her and she lived

[signal lichen]

yeah thats another big problem

not saying eyaj doesn't work its just i would say surtr is easier here

[gentle finch]

yah

well

for his squad

for me surtr would've been harder to utilize than eyja

[near folio]

I'll just try next reset when my practice plans regenerate

Well tbh this boss also isnt that interesting

Not worth trying hard on

Might as well just abuse all the best characters in the game

[signal lichen]

the boss is sucky

[gentle finch]

i have to clear

grinding op

[signal lichen]

i also don't like it that much

[formal moss]

@small totem do u mind strimming?

[gentle finch]

boss doesn't seem interesting but i think it's cool how he splits damage taken to all enemies

[near folio]

The uncool part is how it oneshots my healers

[gentle finch]

🙂

eat more 🍞

[near folio]

And the robots that can kill defenders in 2 punches

[gentle finch]

i never used middle tile for medic

bad placement

[near folio]

This whole event just pushing us to use meta

[gentle finch]

Dorothy targets and boss stays there for a decent bit

I had shining there whole ma

p

[near folio]

I can kill dorothy at top with just skadi, tequila and shamare doll

She isnt an issue

[gentle finch]

i just let her roam

she died to dps eventually

[signal lichen]

let her roam and kill even more healers

[gentle finch]

nothing died

[formal moss]

whore u using as suppor unit?

[gentle finch]

eyja

[wary wing]

isnt surtr a better support here?

[near folio]

Trying to keep everyone alive is hard

[gentle finch]

i have my own but i didn't m3 due to reasons i will not disclose

[gentle finch]

for me? not really

[formal moss]

Just use surtr with eyja insted tbh

[gentle finch]

eyja synergized really well with my strat

[formal moss]

Surtr top lanekilling the robos with dorothy is real nice

[gentle finch]

i don't like using surtr

[formal moss]

r u having fun with it?

[gentle finch]

also i was just showing my medic placement

i cleared the stage already

[formal moss]

oooo ok

[gentle finch]

yeah

[brave maple]

Should I just restart and try again

[sonic willow]

I mean....

[brave maple]

Is it better I swap mountain with amiya and try to have amiya clear the top side?

[sonic willow]

I recommend using a pusher

if you have gladiia, she can pull down the ballz by herself

[brave maple]

Kk

[scarlet ledge]

i love eune

[gleaming lodge]

6 block S2 Eun is funny yeah

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[vernal lion]

mountain with 5 def B, heal like crazy lmao

[mild whale]

just leak

[signal lichen]

i loved using cliffheart on this stage actually

some slightly tough timings was interesting to figure out

[gleaming lodge]

def B is really bad though

Less DEF and no block count up

[vernal lion]

you don't need block count if you have killed them already

think it's just situational, like Toron LT-7

those damn ninja hit hard af

[gleaming lodge]

It's probably brainrot from playing the gamemode with defknights then
Nothing dies

[scarlet ledge]

pro

teach?

[vernal lion]

I expect that you just throw everything to your main attacker

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye

[vernal lion]

[scarlet ledge]

i love guard b 5 eune s3

[latent anvil]

Omg it's leite

[scarlet ledge]

shut

[latent anvil]

[gleaming lodge]

Guard B ?
The ATK + ASPD one ?

Pretty sure Eun scales better with pure ATK given the amount of DEF everything has no ?

[vernal lion]

she has a lot of ATK when s3 on

so ASPD buff to help with lower the delay between each of attack

[gleaming lodge]

I know what Eunectes does mate, I just said I am a defknights player

[latent anvil]

With such high atk, doesn't aspd increase overall dps

[gleaming lodge]

ASPD always increases DPS

+50 ASPD = + 50% DPS

But guard B has a lower ATK boost
And scaling with ATK on physical is not linear

Given the high DEF in SSS, I'm wondering if Guard A shouldn't be better on Eun S3

[vernal lion]

it's right only when enemy DEF doesn't increase

but like, for some situation you want ASPD buff for physical attacker op

[latent anvil]

I could go test it out but I'm kinda lazy

[vernal lion]

like Chalter

[scarlet ledge]

pro

teach??

[latent anvil]

Leite

Is guard a or b better for dps

At ~max stacks

[vernal lion]

she has slow aspd, so give her aspd buff is not a bad choice

[gleaming lodge]

SSS buffs are ATK_scales though ?

[lethal dragon]

Use vanguard A :yep

[scarlet ledge]

hi yuu

[lethal dragon]

Wassup

[scarlet ledge]

i s2m3 akafuyu

[lethal dragon]

[lethal dragon]

Carb

[full finch]

carb is yes

[latent anvil]

Why did Leite ignore me

[scarlet ledge]

u shut

[lethal dragon]

And I have had new
I s3m3ed chalter
Account ruined

[latent anvil]

Yuu help I'm being bullied by leite Leite not helping me

[gleaming lodge]

Lmao
We can't even discuss strategy in here anymore

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i use guard b because for thorns stack

[vernal lion]

the problem with SSS is not about physical dmg is bad, but it is a lot,
so if you want a game mode that it's not anything to challenge then
I guess we all use ONLY arts dmg for SSS

[lethal dragon]

Thorns 💀

[scarlet ledge]

thorns good

trust

[lethal dragon]

How much atk do you get

[latent anvil]

I use this and I think this is best

[scarlet ledge]

wtf use defender b

[latent anvil]

I don't hire defender so it don't matter

[lethal dragon]

I use Def a

[latent anvil]

But defender b is better

[lethal dragon]

No

[scarlet ledge]

no

extra block good

[lethal dragon]

Def a gives extra block

[scarlet ledge]

@gleaming lodge slap this wgz

[latent anvil]

I never ever used a defender as a stack

[lethal dragon]

Yeah I pretty use the same
Sometime I use cas b

And since I am mostly using irene so guard A is better

[scarlet ledge]

guard a irene 5 stack

[lethal dragon]

Oh no

[latent anvil]

I do 4 vanguard 1 guard mudrock

And then I win

[lethal dragon]

I started using Gavy S3 with one Def A

And random shit I can afford for her

6 blocks yumm

[vernal lion]

man honestly, sometime I just can't play it right because card is shuffled up
and it's not like I want, so I have to temporize it most of time

[latent anvil]

Just spam hire supporter

[full finch]

12 supporter gaming

[latent anvil]

If you know placements, it much harder to lose if you just keep grab supporter

[vernal lion]

I play balance strat, so I must have each of class 1 op

[full finch]

the problem with using that many supporters is that 1 flagbearer isn't enough DP

[lethal dragon]

I just go unga bunga

[latent anvil]

I swear I'm always capped on dp even with no vanguard...

[vernal lion]

because each time you beat a stage, it gives you some random shit that maybe good or bad

oh btw Free plan is not bad, I can have some rare reverse op

[lethal dragon]

Ah IC IC that's why I never had any reverse op

I always use preferred plan

[vernal lion]

I mean, after I have gotten the medal, I just can play it in a RNG way,
to see how good and bad a run it can be

[lethal dragon]

Nah I just never paid attention

I'll try next reset

I didn't even know that you could get reverse ops untill very recent

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/829352003255795774.png?quality=lossless

Sometimes I get a strong urge to play SSS but then I remember that there are 8 stages

[vernal lion]

[soft crystal]

I like sss

[cosmic dagger]

this is the crux of the problem with ranged comps

cant simultaneously have a bunch of vanguards and supporters

ground comps dont have this issue

[vernal lion]

I just don't like now that supporter A is only given 15 permit instead of 1 op and 5 permit

[cosmic dagger]

that actually makes early game cycling even faster

which is lovely

when you question the validity of supporter A you have to first ask yourself when you exceed 14/draw

by the time you reach 14 your comp should be setup already

[full finch]

just rotate all your supporters before you shuffle the deck each time

it's only hard if you have more than like 6+

[vernal lion]

just kill

[cinder pike]

if you have flagbarer then support cycling is very achievable

[vernal lion]

[cinder pike]

or any vg tbh

[full finch]

1 flag isn't enough when you have 10+ supporters tho

[vernal lion]

imagine no flagbearer earlier

[cosmic dagger]

on the bright side stacking counts as retreat

[soft crystal]

I do mix comps cause like

[cosmic dagger]

so waiting for natural regen is still fine

[cinder pike]

10 supporters are excessive

[cosmic dagger]

just slows down your cycle

[full finch]

wait they fixed stacking so it counts as retreat now?

[soft crystal]

It feels wrong not to have ranged ops

[cosmic dagger]

i thought it was always retreat?

[vernal lion]

your op still wastes

[cosmic dagger]

either way its retreat in cn right now so 50% back

[vernal lion]

if the deck is full

[cosmic dagger]

10 supporters is actually suboptimal since you should run even more

ideally you want to reach a steady state where you can completely cycle through your deck with 1st round of supporters

[vernal lion]

imagine having 10 supporters in a squad

[cosmic dagger]

obviously not achievable at 12 cost but complete cycle means you will never reach the state where youre like "fuck my carries at at the bottom of my deck"

[cinder pike]

imagine having 10+ built supporters

[cosmic dagger]

e0 1 bards are the best supporters

[cosmic dagger]

the only supporters you need built are realistically suzuran and shamare

[vernal lion]

just build

[cinder pike]

for me stacking snipers works very well

because there are quite afew snipers which can semi carry

[gleaming lodge]

[vernal lion]

I basically just stick to this squad whole time,
it worked good, 7/10 times, the issue is RNG, so yea

[latent anvil]

[cosmic dagger]

its ironic how people complain about rng and also dont run supporter spam at the same time

when the entire point of supporter spam is to eliminate rng

[vernal lion]

how ironic that "why I have to do that" but play other strat?

[cinder pike]

allot of semi carries between my actual SSS carries

[latent anvil]

Pro

[scarlet ledge]

last stage ops

[cinder pike]

reuploaded for class numbers

[soft crystal]

Gnosis built is pretty good too

S3 good

[cinder pike]

angelina works decently for between carries

[cosmic dagger]

i dont think gnosis does anything in the ideal draft since he wont be staying on field

i used to like running him too

but i think e0 1 sora is stronger

[vernal lion]

200 aspd goes brrr

I prefer specB for him

[cinder pike]

gnosis basically perma stalls units

[vernal lion]

pretty good

[soft crystal]

Even without stacks gnosis s3 helps

[cinder pike]

but full synergy with snipers works really nicely

[soft crystal]

Sss bosses are not freeze immune

[vernal lion]

normal attack can perma stall an enemy, that is what you need

just nuke the boss

[lethal dragon]

Ew i hate that stage

[soft crystal]

Freezing is a 50% fragile for gnosis

[cosmic dagger]

sometimes i forget a lot of gnosis copium stems from mlynar not being in en yet

once mlynar arrives the premier strategy revolves more around how to kill the enemy faster rather than hehe single target perma cc

i think operators that suffer from the x + mlynar = mlynar syndrome should not be ran in sss

[cinder pike]

gnosis works soo well with snipers

and SSS can be pain when you need to build multiple classes at the same time

[cosmic dagger]

you can eliminate ranged carries altogether

to get rid of snipers/casters

this is achievable now but gets much better once mlynar drops

and its not acceptable to cope "ah but borrow" when sss is manual

[lethal dragon]

I e2 m3ed Ethan just to never use him

[turbid badge]

Hes good in the minecraft event

[lethal dragon]

Oh true

The event with one and only stage where Lin is good

🥹

[turbid badge]

yes

[vernal lion]

it's gonna be fun

[lethal dragon]

Level 60 aak damn

Rich

[cinder pike]

I can imagine 5 sniper stack aak s1

[lethal dragon]

[left night]

I wonder if there will be a stage where you have to use aak to kill the low rarity operators on the field and replace them with your own operator

[cinder pike]

aak paradox

aak is sus already without him killing operators

[vernal lion]

[lethal dragon]

Kyaa

[vernal lion]

damn Irene with Skalter just oneshot red Bully

lmao

[pale orchid]

yeah for me i went with 4 sniper 1 caster to stack gg, rest were vanguards and supporters for gavialter and mudrock

[vital stirrup]

Can I clear DV-S-1 with this? I feel like I can't deal with the last 3 mechs

Do I focus casters on the right and lay mines on both left and right tracks?

[frigid kite]

Yes

[vernal lion]

do you have slow supporter like Orchid?
also, bring more casters

even 12F or Durin

[vital stirrup]

blacknight for DP then 2 defenders on the left, the rest casters?

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3TO3mBV-oA&ab_channel=ILoveAmiya

you can check this clear, see how he managed it

[vital stirrup]

phew did it with my butt clenched

[lethal dragon]

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odt0wSRWW2g&ab_channel=Sciel

[lethal dragon]

Max risk week 1

https://youtu.be/jNASWvzae84

[glass monolith]

Frame perfect-ish mine recall make it do damage but not trigger other mines.... THE FUCK?

[vernal lion]

#strategy

[scarlet ledge]

damn didnt even use eune for boss

[glass monolith]

Another Sora enjoyer

[latent anvil]

frostleaf

[turbid badge]

woa

[turbid badge]

yes

[sharp scroll]

How much attack does the test power armor have in dv-ex-5 cm and how much HP increase is it?

[small totem]

Not entirely sure, but you should expect it to be quite higher than this

They are already quite beefy

[glass monolith]

CM is: +20% ATK/DEF +80% HP (60% comes from increased hp condition)

Man fuck DV CM why it gives +20% of all stats

[small totem]

Im pretty sure thats higher than other CMs iirc

[glass monolith]

We had +10% normally in other events, and sometimes not even increasing some of the stats

Like WD-EX-8 CM has no ATK increase

[small totem]

But yeah its bullshit that those bots have almost double hp and hit harder

They made burst arts damage mandatory

[flat sapphire]

eh, was it 80%? eyja s3m3 could still kill them

[small totem]

Yeah but thats if you have that

They made it an eyja check

[glass monolith]

Damn i checked future event CMs in ark-nights. It seems like +20% ATK/DEF/HP every CM is new default

[small totem]

[flat sapphire]

ok i just tested

there's no way it's 80%

it's like 2 or 3 hit difference between normal and cm

[latent anvil]

multiplicative buff, not additive

probalby

[glass monolith]

We talk about stage with +60% as CM condition, not +80% to every CM stage

[latent anvil]

wait that dont make sense

[glass monolith]

EX-5 CM is enemy has +60% hp, +20% CM

[flat sapphire]

ohh ex5 has hp

[small totem]

You guys almost gave me a heart attack

[fiery moth]

M8-8 is giving me fatal oripathy I s2g

Stupid birb mephisto and his corrupted javelin throwers

[civic nest]

show squad

[dusky grove]

Tank it and wank it

I think I used like 3 aoe medics

Just to spite the stage

And Saria

[fiery moth]

Was running a low end thing cause I heard there's an optional ending if you let Mephisto leak. So I was running like, myrtle, gravel, kroos, exusiai, catapult, gavial, perfumer, sussuro, cuora, and gummy?

[dusky grove]

Just run the usual team that kills mem

[civic nest]

that isn’t the secret ending

[dusky grove]

Except don't do it

[fiery moth]

That isn't the secret?

[dusky grove]

Maybe replace 1 dps with medic

[civic nest]

the secret ending is easier

just need to like ignore mephisto

which is easy as hell

don’t even need to be worry abt the fog

[fiery moth]

I mean by ignore doesnt that mean let him escape?

[civic nest]

yes

[fiery moth]

Right so Im letting him leak

[civic nest]

that’s the secret ending

y e s

[dusky grove]

Uh

He was

Trying to leak

For the hidden scene

[civic nest]

oh wait

[dusky grove]

In case you haven't read

[civic nest]

why the low end squad tho

[civic nest]

i read the first half so EN moment on me

it’s even easier than normal ending so should be easy

[fiery moth]

Like so my best understanding with the stage is
If he takes too much damage, he dumps poison everywhere
Goes egg mode if he loses all hp and revives, but if you somehow kill him in egg mode he revives immediately?

[civic nest]

revive with half health

[fiery moth]

Ohh, but he revives with full health if you dont kill him in egg mode

[civic nest]

yea iirc u can read his profile

i think they explain it all there

[fiery moth]

Wait, I read somewhere in egg mode his defense goes through the roof but his resistances stay the same. Couldnt I drop Kay and use S2 to just rip him apart in egg mode?

[civic nest]

he gain def res and hp regeneration

[clear ingot]

Schwartz can pen the egg

[civic nest]

so go true damage

[dusky grove]

Surtr

Going for his revival phase is okay

But tbh just wait till his shield is down

[fiery moth]

Like I guess my main question is how much damage should I throw at him, cause I heard fi you put too much damage into him, he sprays way too much poison for your medics to heal through

[civic nest]

don’t burst him down with everything u have

that’s it

i did SA and surtr damage and could still heal with my garbage medic iirc

[fiery moth]

See I thought I was gonna be smart and have mudrock tank the javelins, but good lord there's too many for her to reshield in time for.

[civic nest]

there’s a 2 ops clear of m8-8 involving surtr and mudrock if u care

[fiery moth]

👀

[scarlet ledge]

hm

[fiery moth]

Wouldn't mind seeing it, although I havent put mastery into either of their skills

[scarlet ledge]

feetus

i e2 franka

[limpid siren]

big if true

[clear ingot]

Also did the same thing, but my mudmud also melted like cheese

[civic nest]

omg best guard

[civic nest]

https://youtu.be/cWqNhh4lYDM

[dusky grove]

[scarlet ledge]

feetus

s2m1 franka 28 mins

🤯

[fiery moth]

Ah damn they both need m3?

[latent anvil]

feetus

i s1m3d my conviction

[dusky grove]

I mean

You would want m3 anyway

[civic nest]

wtfart why are u guys attacking me with weird masteries

[dusky grove]

Unless malding is your calling

[fiery moth]

Oh yeah of course, but I need to now spend quite a bit of time on that

[scarlet ledge]

what stage?

[fiery moth]

Maybe I can replace one of my base buildings with a second training room to help speed shit up

[civic nest]

m8-8

[scarlet ledge]

oh m8-8

funni stage

cm?

[fiery moth]

Nah regular, I just wanna get guard amiya so Im blasting through episode 8 as fast as I can

[scarlet ledge]

waves and poison is problem

poison is easy to manage

enemy waves u need good ops wave clearer

[latent anvil]

pro

[fiery moth]

Hm, well in theory I can do the 2 op idea. I have surtr and mudrock and level 90. Would just have m3 their s3s, but it's doable

As long as I have the materials for it lol

[latent anvil]

lvl 90 before m3

[fiery moth]

I am very all over the place when it comes to this game and priorities lol

[flat sapphire]

tbf it's a lot easier to get lmd and xp compared to mats

[fiery moth]

Focus more on mega buffing characters I like for aesthetics instead of actual value

[storm current]

I 90 before m3 ||1 minute after banner release||

[civic nest]

or u could like bring other ops

🤯

[scarlet ledge]

loli pro

[civic nest]

u are not limited to 2 ops

[scarlet ledge]

i lvl 90 m3 fartooth when i got her

[civic nest]

[latent anvil]

i have no xp and no lmd

[civic nest]

i don’t even have fartooth

[latent anvil]

easy to farm materials

[flat sapphire]

sounds like base issue

[fiery moth]

Right but Ive tried some setups that use more than 2 ops, and something goes wrong that I cant see what happened lol, and if I was gonna m3 their stuff anyway, I should atleast try out the idea

[latent anvil]

my base is fine

[flat sapphire]

then u should have lmd and xp

[storm current]

I love e2 90 the moment i pull them

[fiery moth]

I want Penance : (

[storm current]

Like

[fiery moth]

When is enmity defender part 2 dropping

[storm current]

Maintenance end => pull imediately => e2 90

[civic nest]

i despise penace with a burning passion

[storm current]

I did that for ceobe and uh

[civic nest]

her theme slap tho

[latent anvil]

i had lmd and xp until modules came and i module 10 thing to lvl 3, -2.5-3m lmd

[storm current]

I forgor

[latent anvil]

extremely broke now

[storm current]

E2 90 speedrun is pretty lit

[fiery moth]

God when Ceobe module drops Im gonna be so pogged out of my mind

[storm current]

Like prepare the materials for a month before

[fiery moth]

What a sick module

[storm current]

[scarlet ledge]

PENANCE GOOD

7-18 solo

[storm current]

I also 90 m9 weedy

[civic nest]

pro rich

[storm current]

But not really speedrun since it took like 80 pull for hee

So it was like day 6

[scarlet ledge]

how many m9s u have?

i have 10 rn

[civic nest]

1

[fiery moth]

Honestly I find it nuts how if it's an op Im interested in, I always grab them really early. I never really pot them though since Im not interested in spending money on this lol

But like I got GAlter in like, 20 pulls

Pozemka was in the first 10 pull and then GAlter was right after

Just gotta hope when TexAlt drops the same luck hits me there too

[storm current]

I have plenty of 90