strategy

[proud drift]

and e1 50 kroos

with a few others 3* e1

[gentle finch]

It's doable

EX-8

[mint pelican]

yeh

[waxen swan]

You need to borrow the right crack

[mint pelican]

ling but don't know pair with what operator

[waxen swan]

Ling won't do it this time

[foggy grove]

there is like ling and gummy duo on ex but eh

[mint pelican]

I saw that too, but I don't have gummyTT

spot may work, but it needs e1 55, I still need left some resources to get the trim

[eager gate]

What
Is spot's cycle fast enough?

I thought it's like 100+

[mint pelican]

perfumer may work too, but still don't know how much level it need

[mint pelican]

have not try yet, my spot is e1 10 skill 4

[sonic willow]

bro what 💀

[dreamy quail]

spend $1 for gummy

[sonic willow]

spot downtime is 40s

[mint pelican]

MONEY

[eager gate]

Huh TIL
Defenderless gaming shows itself

[mint pelican]

ohh, I saw a comment that e1 20 spot skill 7, 0 trust would also work too

is that doable?

[foggy grove]

i mean try it with practice plan

[scarlet ledge]

that was fucking nightmare

[mint pelican]

have to level the skill first, but not sure to put resource on it or not

[latent anvil]

ling basically solos ex8

[waxen swan]

Duo

[dreamy quail]

can Ling solo ex8 challenge mode?

[mint pelican]

ask that too!!

[latent anvil]

uh

you can do ling + a few low end ops for sure

[turbid badge]

Normal Mode: 2 Op(s)
Ling3* + Spot1

cm uhh..

solo not possible

[latent anvil]

you can do it with ling and myrtle s2

on normal mode ofc

[dreamy quail]

but can myrtle be e1 with 0 trust and survive?

[elder flume]

hmm so gladiia s1m3 works for weeb if mostima

[latent anvil]

no

[scarlet ledge]

phase 1 awaken have 1/3 hp on that tile and have to one cycle on phase 2
cm is pain

[bitter otter]

for the ||Bird Memphisto boss|| how much healing can out heal bursting them?

[scarlet ledge]

had to chips boss hp using ntrk

so when he reach that tile

i can burst it on phase 2

pain

peko

flint died on cm btw

i use april as dps

before it teleport and snapped my team in half

💀

[latent anvil]

if you kill the bird the poison go away, so enough dmg works. also a strong nightingale s3 + 1 medic is usually enough from what i remember

leite

show team you used for it

why did you pick weird op

[scarlet ledge]

here the cm ops

[sonic willow]

dv-ex-8?

[scarlet ledge]

ye

[sonic willow]

flint

[foggy grove]

based flint

[latent anvil]

oh it thought that was pallas lol

[scarlet ledge]

all of them did work

just very tight timing

not fun

💀

[latent anvil]

when you pick based ops that tends to happen

[flat sapphire]

minimalist

leite dalao

[sonic willow]

Just realized this is too cringe

[latent anvil]

wtf

how did that even happen

leite who is more useful heidi or mint

[scarlet ledge]

@sonic willow here the normal clear

see astgenne vanished into shadow realm

and turned into leizi

I NEED DMG

asbestos died too

[fresh copper]

WTF Lumen without max pots

[scarlet ledge]

i use saria for healing

[fresh copper]

Cringe

[latent anvil]

leite who do i level mint or heidi

[scarlet ledge]

i dont need asbestos dps anyway

[sonic willow]

who knows what I was on back then

[latent monolith]

Hey mine is E0 1

[scarlet ledge]

heidi

[latent monolith]

[fresh copper]

But you got all his pots, right?

[scarlet ledge]

ngl eune mvp on that fucking clear on cm

she fucking shred the boss

[fresh copper]

Thicc snek

[scarlet ledge]

bro retreating on cm is fucking nightmare

fuck those balls too

annoying

[scarlet ledge]

pot 4????

huh

tf

@latent anvil raise heidi

i use her buffer for range ops

[latent anvil]

yes i am

[scarlet ledge]

since yknow

-3 blocks

[latent anvil]

i am now making hella based squad

[formal moss]

dies in DV-EX 5 cm

[scarlet ledge]

i use sora if i need melee ops buffing

[sonic willow]

[scarlet ledge]

how that happen

tf

[latent anvil]

wait leite do you know if conviction s1 is good

[main halo]

I barely have any casters so I wonder if Steward can kill one of the robots

[latent anvil]

depend on how much time he has to kill lol

[main halo]

Too slow

[latent anvil]

hes pretty good at dpsing them tho

[scarlet ledge]

too rng

[waxen swan]

No too slow

[scarlet ledge]

just use other

[main halo]

I have Suzuran as my other ranged arts but her S2 takes too long to charge and her S1 is just meh

[latent anvil]

800% atk on m3

if convction e270 that 930 atk go to 7440

i will go max my conviction now for 5% chance to oneshot everything

[main halo]

[latent anvil]

[scarlet ledge]

only time i use conviction

[main halo]

Why the frack would you do that

[scarlet ledge]

is on cc daily od sniper drone enemy

with rope

[latent anvil]

sounds funny af tbh

[formal moss]

why can't thse robots just do arts dmg bro

[formal moss]

oh fuck passenger was the answer all along

[main halo]

How long?

[elder flume]

this long

[main halo]

[latent anvil]

XD

expected boss to be on left side

boss almost enter blue box lol

[elder flume]

well its not too slow

it works

[latent anvil]

i mean thats like 31 kills so its not bad tbh

[scarlet ledge]

cm?

[elder flume]

nm

[scarlet ledge]

have fun when u reach cm

[latent anvil]

ok maybe hes not so good at dpsing them then

[elder flume]

1 robot kill

[scarlet ledge]

imma record my dv ex 8 nm auto

since im lazy to do it manually

[latent anvil]

i can do mine too but its just blue woman and then more helidrop abuse, too boring

not even blue woman alone

[scarlet ledge]

do my clear

its fun

[latent anvil]

u use all my e0 lvl 1 ops

[scarlet ledge]

i lost 60 sanity on that run

🤯

[latent anvil]

i lost around 60 on cm

because i didnt use practice plan

[foggy grove]

i lost like 10?
cos usual mistap 💀

[elder flume]

does bili not have dv ex 8 3star squad

found e1 60 low rarity but thats still nm

[latent anvil]

you looking for cm?

[elder flume]

just 3 star squads in particular

[formal moss]

I'm finally out of this cancerous Cm stage

[frail wagon]

I don’t even know if 3 stars squad for DV-EX-8 is possible

[formal moss]

I wonder how hard the next ones r

[frail wagon]

Since it’s literally just a big stat check stage

[formal moss]

[frail wagon]

It’s actually kind of easy

[foggy grove]

there is 3* squad on ex
but apparently doberman is valid for 3* clear

[frail wagon]

I mean Doberman buffs 3 stars ops yeah

[elder flume]

ex8?

[foggy grove]

yeah

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xY4y1776k/

[elder flume]

pogu

[formal moss]

it's not when my flametail gets 3 hit

[frail wagon]

I mean big arts source + slows + killing all of the inactive robots first works

Eyja support unit winning on god

Kyostinv used eyja in EX-2 CM to EX-6 CM

[sonic willow]

I lost 20 sanity here

[formal moss]

oh ur right

thanks

[frail wagon]

Yeah just remove all of the ranged threats

Carnelian and Eyja shines on the EX stages for me

[sonic willow]

1st try, placed shining too early
2nd try, didn't kill the sleepers

[formal moss]

Surtr time ig

[frail wagon]

Best CM condition

[sonic willow]

tankathon

or if you have sa/reveal + surtr, you can spawncamp dorothy

[frail wagon]

I don’t think you really need to kill Dorothy on that CM

[formal moss]

you don't really need to Kill dorothy right?

[frail wagon]

You can just place units on tiles to prevent her planting mines

[formal moss]

Ok so time to ignore her

[frail wagon]

And let her go while tanking her ranged attacks

[waxen swan]

You can't kill Dorothy on cm without reveal anyway

[sonic willow]

it's way easier to just kill her tho

[formal moss]

How about for ex-8 tho?

[sonic willow]

you can surtr her straight up

[waxen swan]

Surtr

[frail wagon]

Yeah but eh I don’t like having to borrow a silverash for killing her

[formal moss]

I'll try to kill ert t=his attemot then

[sonic willow]

nani

[frail wagon]

Yeah EX-8 CM is just a forced situation for me where I have to kill Dorothy

[waxen swan]

You can kill Dorothy while killing 2 bot at the same with in 8

[frail wagon]

Her ranged attacks deal a lots

[formal moss]

o wait you can't reveal her without any special Invis revealers?

[waxen swan]

Yeah

[frail wagon]

Silverash, Elysium, Scene

And another one that nobody uses

[waxen swan]

You can't blocked her so you need someone that reveal

[frail wagon]

tsukinogi

[sonic willow]

she's shittier faust

with a splash of minesweeper

[formal moss]

Her mines r not that annoyin tho

unless ur using executors or smth

[frail wagon]

I mean just place units on tiles that you have planned beforehand

If she placed mine on a tile that you need to use for helidrop just drop a random op in your roster on it and retreat

[formal moss]

i have a question, if i Silence the white goo does it stop it from Fueling the robots?

[sonic willow]

I like ex-8 cm personally, just enough stuff to strategize around and no bs mechanic

[limpid siren]

no

[formal moss]

man

[waxen swan]

Don't think silent can silent

This is not final fantasy

[formal moss]

maybe i should kill this rat

anyway DV-ex-8 cm time

i hope i don't die

[sonic willow]

e2 myrtle before saria

I recommend borrowing surtr and killing dorothy instantly

well, should be easier to tank through since it's the same clear as normal medal

[small totem]

Just one question, that I probably asked already.

Is Blaze still relevant in the current meta? She is my most invested unit in my entire roster. I have her maxed out in everything except potential. E2 lvl 90, S2 M3, and 200 trust. She has been serving me well....up until a point. All the "endgame" content I put her in has her struggling in some capacity, like she barely dents heavies or anyone with armor. She can still kill and her damage is consistent since the skill is perpetual, but it just doesn't seem all that efficient now.

Is there something I am missing?

[waxen swan]

She's a good afk op that's about it

Aoe too

[sonic willow]

blaze fell off

[waxen swan]

After gavial took her place she just relegated to easy ops to use

[sonic willow]

still good in general content like events and stuff

[small totem]

I am beginning to wonder if boiling burst should be used instead

[waxen swan]

Nah that thing will never took off

[sonic willow]

she can boil in rhodes island kitchen

[small totem]

it was just a joke but ive was tempted to try it

[formal moss]

it's just that if i don't take eyja for this I can't kill the robots fast enough

[waxen swan]

I mean you can try

[formal moss]

I'll do that next run

[sonic willow]

ig if you already have eyja strat figured out, that's fine

[small totem]

i guess all I can do now is wait for Blaze module

if it ever comes

[waxen swan]

Can you not like get something better

[cosmic dagger]

Blaze is in a rough spot in the meta rn so what you found is pretty normal

[small totem]

sunk cost fallacy, she is my most invested unit

[cosmic dagger]

Unfortunate but it do be like that

[small totem]

[waxen swan]

How poor are you

[sonic willow]

laneholder in general are just on the downtrend

[formal moss]

wait if there is a blaze module then that means specter will have one too i wonder what they'll do for her mod

[sonic willow]

enemies getting stronger, burst becoming more in demand

[small totem]

c'mon bro thats not nice.

I couldve gotten gav alter if I hadnt come back so late

[wary wing]

lord guard: target count +1

[sonic willow]

how about turning half their damage into true

[formal moss]

thoughts on doing this?

[wary wing]

are you winning son?

[formal moss]

nop

[scarlet ledge]

kek

fun?

[small totem]

Something that makes her have more survivability?

[wary wing]

surviving means nothing if you aren't killing

[sonic willow]

this is what I did

[waxen swan]

She's already have immunity on talent making it longer won't do much

[wary wing]

which is why ppl are noticing why non-perma skills with 2K+ dph are trending now

[small totem]

just a guess. She does have that invincibility skill though

[wary wing]

Blez shined in an era where 1.5K ATK sliced through anything

but 1.5k physical nowadays is just there

[waxen swan]

It's okay for stall but burst just remove the problem

[wary wing]

I mean

offskill skadig has 1.5K in AH

[waxen swan]

Expensive ass buff

[sonic willow]

huge skadi, but at what cost

[formal moss]

Maybe? but like with Gladiia she already gets 4.5 regen per second so

[small totem]

At this point, I just use blaze to handle midtier enemies

[wary wing]

yes
that's the intended use for centurions nowadays

rush of mid-tier Armor enemies

unless you are Gavial or specter s2

[small totem]

Still feels pretty bad though, I miss the days where I shredded bosses like tissue paper without needing ejya or surtr

[waxen swan]

How hard gav hit ?

[sonic willow]

that's just laneholders in general

[wary wing]

gaxe breaks 2K ATK

[glass monolith]

I use Gav S3 to shred 2 ballz at same time

[waxen swan]

Why

[sonic willow]

gavial e2 60 s2m3 reaches 750*2.8 = 2100 damage

[scarlet ledge]

hot

[small totem]

Actually wait, would Blaze shine in roguelike?

never played rogue much so idk

[waxen swan]

She's okay

[wary wing]

she was nice in fungimist

[waxen swan]

Thorn is better

[wary wing]

but
there are better options for guard tix

[sonic willow]

she's cool vs bear

[scarlet ledge]

gav shines doe on is3

at high difficulty

[small totem]

I don't have thorn

I rolled Blaze when I was rolling Thorn

and thats how this all started

[cosmic dagger]

blaze is just worse gavial for integrated strategies

[scarlet ledge]

hi kerman

[cosmic dagger]

Given how gavial is a viable start, blaze is as good as dead for the mode lol

Feelsbadman

[wary wing]

Blez alter when

[waxen swan]

She's worse in is3 basically

[scarlet ledge]

what other viable start on n15?

[wary wing]

mizuki

[cosmic dagger]

Tons are viable

[wary wing]

horn

[small totem]

Dual wield chainsaws

[wary wing]

btw kermit

[cosmic dagger]

If you really want to go full retard mode for squads that aren't safehouse/class specific you can even use Ethan opener to save up for 6*

[sonic willow]

doing d15

most people d7/8 and dip

[wary wing]

does s1m1 > s1m3 on horn makes that much of a difference?

[scarlet ledge]

im still at n10

[cosmic dagger]

Not sure since I went to m3 before even using it

[small totem]

[scarlet ledge]

so ye still climbing

[waxen swan]

When is3 released anyway

[wary wing]

#game-news

[cosmic dagger]

You're supposed to stop at 7 given how it's both medal and max reward scaling

So there's no reason to go higher other than to show off the size of your cock

[limpid siren]

wtf nsfw bait

[formal moss]

I have run out of sanity

[wary wing]

says the one who ran exactly the same team 15 times

back2back

[small totem]

which type

[scarlet ledge]

this

[waxen swan]

I would like to show my massive cock

[formal moss]

both

[glass monolith]

Jokes on you, 78 during JT8-3

[scarlet ledge]

im still at n10 so mine is not high yet

😞

[cosmic dagger]

Look man gavial mlynar horn pozy is just so incredibly consistent that there's no reason not to spam the same team

[wary wing]

I'm talking about kermit

[formal moss]

I won't give up yet tho, I want this to be my 1st 100% clear of a event

[small totem]

when gav alter coming back though?

[waxen swan]

Next year probably

[formal moss]

Wait, should i Use shamare to Reduce it's atk Before it does it's explosion?

[limpid siren]

should be our next anniversary

[formal moss]

[sonic willow]

january 2024

[small totem]

[sonic willow]

not even kidding

[foggy grove]

if it's killing you sure
but i don't need it on mine

[small totem]

Y'know what, fuck it. Im sticking with Blaze. At least I have her.

[waxen swan]

That's being nice

[main halo]

Somehow people with Surtr are very privileged

[waxen swan]

That just mean there not that rich

[sonic willow]

people don't really talk about it since almost everyone has her already

[foggy grove]

perf,lumen and enough units on field is enough for me

[sonic willow]

but not having her in 2023 is very

[scarlet ledge]

my surtr is e0

[small totem]

I have more than enough money to buy Gavial but I don't think I can wait that long.

[scarlet ledge]

[wary wing]

that's a lie

[main halo]

I don't have her

[sonic willow]

well

[glass monolith]

I don't and this EX-8 CM is first time i support her in a while

[waxen swan]

I don't have pass

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

minus

sus

tr

[wary wing]

assuming everyone has almost everyone is retarded elitism

[waxen swan]

You don't have surtr ?

[main halo]

No

[glass monolith]

You don't have Kroos?

[formal moss]

Me either

[scarlet ledge]

finally done uploading dv ex 8

dies

[sonic willow]

Not having this home screen in 2023

[small totem]

asking people how poor they are is also bad taste. not everyone can give up dinner for waifus

[waxen swan]

I just play everyday

[scarlet ledge]

ok weird, main and jp acc ex stages is finished

i can slack again

[waxen swan]

Slacking on what

[scarlet ledge]

[waxen swan]

[scarlet ledge]

[small totem]

[glass monolith]

TW max risk CC9 now

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

[small totem]

Has guard Ch'en fallen off too?

[glass monolith]

I was using her S2 to reduce brain power i need to defeat BALLZ

[small totem]

Same

[formal moss]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-irene-spin-gif-25676877

[small totem]

She clutched a game for me by taking one out as soon as it got to the blue box

[glass monolith]

Because fuck it if i deal with 1000 def 50 res any legally

[scarlet ledge]

i use chen for speed clear

[small totem]

Is s3 any good?

Or is it just cool vergil looking skill?

[waxen swan]

She been on a downfall after chapter 6

[small totem]

well I'm not surprised, everyone seems to use her more naked looking version now

[waxen swan]

S3 is nice but too much investment for something new ops can do

[sonic willow]

even with alter restriction lifted, guard chen still

[small totem]

there was an alt restriction?

[waxen swan]

We still do

[glass monolith]

I started game abusing that version to advance content, now i refuse to use her any longer unless some autos

[small totem]

I came back literally 3 weeks ago so I wouldnt know

[small totem]

good man

resist the temptation.

[waxen swan]

Her alt was too overturned

[sonic willow]

idk bro, the animation and sound effect good af

[small totem]

i refuse to believe a water gun is more damaging than Chi Xiao

[waxen swan]

It's just reality

[small totem]

[latent monolith]

It's her better skill

[small totem]

I feel like an old man, using classic ops cause I had to quit for a year

[latent monolith]

Requires investment, but at mod 3 the cycle is really fast

[waxen swan]

It's so not worth that amount of investment

[raw osprey]

Imagine having this screen

[placid birch]

Water is very damaging in Arknights, remember DH?

[latent monolith]

2sp/3s on an offensive rec skill is not bad

[small totem]

I have Chen's module

[latent monolith]

Is it maxed

[small totem]

Might make her viable, idk

[small totem]

its getting there

just need 1 more gold

[latent monolith]

You really want max module to use it on her

[small totem]

ok, will do. I have beat SSS completely and spent all the event module mats on other ops so I have no more for her. I will wait until I can get that one last gold mat before I do it

[latent monolith]

How many modules have you levelled

[small totem]

too many

[latent monolith]

I levelled a lot but not as many 6 stars

[small totem]

i was mostly modding 5 stars and 4 stars

[latent monolith]

I have cutter mod 3 purestream mod 3 Ambriel mod 3

I didn't really do 5 stars

I did do lee mod 3 though

[small totem]

Actually wait I did mod another six star, that one being Ash

I maxed her out

And somehow forgot

I think thats how I consumed all the mats

[latent monolith]

I only completed one SSS cycle and still have so many mod upgrade mats left

I'll probably try it now post nerf

[small totem]

im still trying to imagine what its like pre-nerf

the enemies are tank as shit

[waxen swan]

It's not that hard

You just GG spam and it's not that hard

[small totem]

Assuming I have GG

[waxen swan]

Just borrow her

[small totem]

None of my friends do either, I mostly have to refresh for her

But I got bad luck

[latent monolith]

Get a friend #friend-id

[glass monolith]

I throw Astgenne on content

[left night]

The fast robot (not the heavy that walk slowly) is actually the most op enemy of the entire event

[latent monolith]

Just use ethan

[left night]

What does ethan do?

[waxen swan]

He bind

[latent monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014771564685819914/1087986072824328202/Screenshot_2023-03-22-11-56-02-496_com.YoStarEN.Arknights.jpg

Enemy no move = doktah happy

[left night]

Also is it my imagination or ex stages enemy is more tanky than normal stage?

[latent monolith]

It's not your imagination, EX stages get stronger versions of the enemies

[small totem]

challenge mode also makes them stronger too

[latent monolith]

CM gives them a stat buff on top of EX stats

[waxen swan]

Well duh

[left night]

Wait do you mean the thicc robot is now even harder to kill?

[latent monolith]

Yes

[left night]

Fml

[waxen swan]

Stage 1 and stage 8 have different stat already

[small totem]

you aint the only person complaining

Basically an Eyja check at this point

[left night]

Time to bring support unit eyja in every ex stage them I guess

[latent monolith]

I just realised that I forgot EX 2 medal

[glass monolith]

EX has "red" enemies who have higher stats by default. And CM adds extra chilly sauce on wound. This event adds +20% to ATK/DEF/HP instead classic +10%

[small totem]

Would this event even be possible without a single six star or even a support unit? It just doesn’t seem to be the case

[left night]

At least there's no farming in ex stages so there's no punishment for borrowing eyja

[latent monolith]

Without 6 stars it's definitely doable

You underestimate nicheknights players

[waxen swan]

Yeah people do this with 4*

[glass monolith]

Wait for Silvergun to upload 5 operator clear of EX-8 or something

[left night]

I think there's low end clear video everywhere on youtube

[latent monolith]

Iirc every single stage in the game can be done 4* only

[waxen swan]

There never been farming ex stage what you talking about

[small totem]

What would be the substitute for the usual ops like Eyja and the red hair lady with a stand?

[left night]

I mean there's no farming in ex stages

[glass monolith]

It is literally his point

[waxen swan]

[glass monolith]

BUUUUUUTS you can prepare auto for rerun 1 year in advance

[fresh copper]

Spawncamping: The Strategy

[latent monolith]

If eyja is used for S3 nobody really replaces her, if S2 for afk dps then there are options like GG S2 dusk S1, and if the enemy def isn't extreme then you can even use horn S1 mizuki S1 etc

[waxen swan]

https://youtu.be/EQL-Korv7tc

[left night]

Or you can borrow chenalter who is a sniper that can shred def enemies nice game balance HG

[fresh copper]

Can't worry about powered armors if they never activate in the first place

[small totem]

Water gun makes metal rust I guess

But yeah, she’s broken. I try not to use her unless Im tryharding

…..which happens to be what im doing with most of the ex stages after ex-2

[waxen swan]

Next is uncle banner

[glass monolith]

Being brainded doctah for 14 months gave me immunity to any stage below EX-7

[latent monolith]

I entered EX 2 for the medal, left because I forgot medic, and then entered EX 3

Why am I an idiot

[small totem]

Ex-7 is basically a stage where I was forced to support unit exclusively for a medic

Nightingale prevented my saria from dying

[fresh copper]

Imagine not having a leveled medic

[sonic willow]

lumen is cool for ex8

[fresh copper]

I learned the hard way how useful they are against Mephisto

Hahaha

[sonic willow]

big range + big heals

[small totem]

my medics are all e2 and leveled, they just dont have arts res buffs

[timber agate]

Lumen works great

[fresh copper]

I love Lumen

[lone tiger]

@celest horizon Idk who to change gnosis and ange lol

[midnight radish]

Should i send my ops then?

[cinder vector]

yes

[midnight radish]

Ignore the random levels, it's a problem habit

[timber agate]

Should I tell you my strat, you can change it for your needs

[cinder vector]

u want to uh, do it without helping unit or r u ok with helping unit

[random light]

are you trying to change team for every stage or what

[lone tiger]

It's for dv ex 8

[small totem]

im not one to judge most of the time but why your ptilopsis so low level?

Just curious

[sonic willow]

bruh wrong img

[midnight radish]

I have access to a Pozy and a Chalter if that helps

[midnight radish]

I just don't use her

[sonic willow]

this what I did

[cinder vector]

im watching a guide with... surtr, noir corne, guard car, and spalter

[small totem]

well she has the sp regen which is very helpful, but I guess thats for you to decide

[midnight radish]

I just have so many ops to build

[sonic willow]

they have ng, ptilo not really important

[midnight radish]

I'm running into one of two problems everytime, and it's that I can kill the boss but get ran over by the armors, or I kill the armors but get wiped by the boss

[cinder vector]

are either surtr or eyja m3?

[timber agate]

I put muddy there to stop all the experiments from flowing, she will survive the whole stage at lvl 30 s2m3

No problem with 4 power armors because of that

[midnight radish]

Surtr is m3 Eyja has no m

My Mud is only m1

[cinder vector]

you wanna watch guide or do u want to do it urself

[timber agate]

She might still work

[sonic willow]

m0 eyja is pretty cringe

[timber agate]

After that, put a laneholder or yello (i put spalter), put surtr on red facing left and ejya on blue facing left

[sonic willow]

eyja here is better

[timber agate]

Might be, I didn't have ejya

[midnight radish]

Eyja gets killed by boss there

[timber agate]

I used pozy

[timber agate]

Use your nightingale

[sonic willow]

put her there before/after boss parks in front of her

[cinder vector]

i watched a guide, with only 3/4 star with a m3 lv 90 surtr and a m3 lv 40 eyja
Im not sure if you can copy that guide with ur m0 eyja but u can try burrowing one

would u like me to send the guide here or

[midnight radish]

I have none of the 1 6* guide bs ops built

[cinder vector]

u can borrow one

[timber agate]

He mentioned his friend can oly lend chalter and pozy

[sonic willow]

why use shit guides when they have 6star roster

[cinder vector]

can you only borrow from ur friend??? i used to burrow from strangers wtf

[timber agate]

Then they won't have m3

Skilss are capped at rank 7 for strangers

[midnight radish]

Why borrow ops I already have from people also

[cinder vector]

they are higher level, more pot, and higher mastery...?

[timber agate]

Bakk, i can send how I clear it, let you borrow my irene or spalter if you need for the stage

[cinder vector]

pretty sure thats not true

[timber agate]

Wait

See the skill specialization restriction

He has m2 ntr but I will only get rank 7

[cinder vector]

huh... never noticed that before

[sonic willow]

you don't get mastered borrow from non-friends

[midnight radish]

The mudrock placement thing is working but I don't have enough ops down for NG to survive the boss explosion

[sonic willow]

place 7 ops

[cinder vector]

could try fast redeploy cheap op like yato or robots or gravel

[timber agate]

Put 2 dp generation ops, I put myrtle and texas

[midnight radish]

I cant screenshot or the game will crash

[frail wagon]

use cheap ops (mostly vanguards so that you can earn more DPs) such as cantabile, myrtle and texas

I don't feel like using executor specialist on EX-8 is worth it since I would lose out on one slot

[sonic willow]

single healer comp

[frail wagon]

if you don't have a great AOE medic then bring 2 ig

[cinder vector]

ifrit would be nice to sit on the bottom line to hit the 2 gundums and help mudrock wouldnt it?

[frail wagon]

try to like delete only one inactive robot on the left side, you'll need surtr on the upper lane on the right side to deal with dorothy and the 2 inactive robots

[lethal dragon]

Is Ng your only option?

[midnight radish]

I have a p6 m3 Skalter

[lethal dragon]

Then use her wtf

[frail wagon]

M3 on which skill anyways

S2?

[midnight radish]

Way less healing than ng

S2m3

[timber agate]

I have m6 spalter with doll damage mod

[lethal dragon]

Use her with ng

She will increase ng's healing and operators's Def

Def is very important

[timber agate]

You can even kill dorothy with warfarin irene while killing top two robots

[lethal dragon]

Ng is focused on arts dmg resistance

[frail wagon]

yeah you can but surtr is just a better choice because she doesn't really needs a buffer

[sonic willow]

should start with surtr killing dorothy

[timber agate]

Dorothy just runs away from her range for me, so irene warf kill her while nightingale phantoms distract her

[sonic willow]

surtr kills dorothy if you s3 her for the full range

[frail wagon]

yeah but your DPS on the mid and below lane should be enough to deal the rest of the damages

dorothy walking on the two tiles that's in surtr's attack range can just lose like ~70%, can be higher or lower depending on the mastery

[timber agate]

@midnight radish , did you clear it

[midnight radish]

Yeah, I finally did it

Thank you for the mudrock recommendation

I'm so glad I managed to get her on her last rerun

[main halo]

Can't believe I beat myself up many times over this

[whole crater]

Wtf amiya use

[main halo]

Why not?

True damage to kill the boss

[whole crater]

Idk I used surtr saria

[lethal dragon]

70 res ugh

Physical dmg >

[sonic willow]

no eyja?

[main halo]

I don't

[fresh copper]

Wait EX-7-CM makes Dorothy invisible?

That's the first time I've ever seen an enemy both invisible and unblockable

GOOD THING I HAVE SCENE

[vernal lion]

archetto s2 can solo DV-6

[main halo]

And we have Faust who's also like that

But only for a while

[cinder vector]

faust isnt invisible though, hes untargettable

scene and silverash doesnt break their invis

[sonic willow]

since we are getting mega weeb how about mega wraith next CC invisible

[frigid kite]

Wait

Just saw you did it already

Lol

[unborn spire]

a good plan to start the new cc

[main halo]

And then they'll rework the whole CC thing after 12

Suppose I'll get to enjoy the glory of CC Blade?

Once again?

[glass monolith]

Headhunt rework

[vernal lion]

yes

[sinful gull]

Which Healers are good for Ex 8 Cm
I Have Ptilopsis,Perfumer,Warfarin,Saria,Gummy

[patent oriole]

Lumen because of the wide range

[sinful gull]

I Think I will upgrade Lumen , It is a shame that I Have not His Potentials .

[foggy grove]

not me bringing 1 aoe medic on top of lumen

and sleep thru boss global attack

[glass monolith]

After doing it I feel like I could just solo Perfurmer entire boss AoE

[gleaming lodge]

What about it ?
It's really good

[glass monolith]

Okay if you want to hear me complaining new players or unlucky ones are fucked

[gleaming lodge]

You understand it got split in two right ?

Pretty much all the old and powercreep ops are isolated now

Except for like, Ifrit, Saria, SA and Bagpipe

[glass monolith]

Imagine you are new player. You don't have Ptilo, Shamare, Bagpipe, Warfarin. And you have to either cope for their eventual rate ups to gold cert them or pull on banner which give 0 progress toward Gold certs

or well "recruitment is consistent way to gain that specific character" - some random guy every time someone specific is on topic

I need to see when it hits CN (or find dev notes and read it myself in case they specify what blue cert shop sells) to see if it is that horrible to roll on it in case you look for specific old character

But new beginner banner is hot

[sonic willow]

Just wait for them to roll in certshop

Bagpipe I mean

[glass monolith]

There will be 32 5 stars, if it follow 2 weeks rotation have fun waiting up to 64 weeks for Shamare/Warfarin

[elder flume]

Ig can kill at spawn if i just therm

[sonic willow]

From what I can tell, there is no blue cert shop... All the things you can buy from core use goldcert as well

[glass monolith]

Then what this shit do?

[sonic willow]

It's a smaller, curated pool

[glass monolith]

cultured pool anyways i will check dev notes myself in free time

[sonic willow]

which means a specific 5star is more likely to appear than the current system

having fun waiting for shamare/ptilo in current system? @glass monolith

[glass monolith]

At least when i pull i gain gold certs

they are moved to BLUE where no gold exists

I hope it won't affect gold from Recruiting into them

[main halo]

Blue certs? Is that the thing you get when a event reruns

[sonic willow]

is that exclusive to core headhunt or is that the universal currency they mentioned

[glass monolith]

Those are purple

[main halo]

Why the hell did I see it blue

[sonic willow]

👨‍🦯

[main halo]

[sonic willow]

been so long since I got top op, wtf is this

[main halo]

What have you got?

[sonic willow]

I've gotten 3 sarias so far

[main halo]

Another Saria?

You wanna max pot her?

[sonic willow]

no, I got my first copy then lost 2 33/66 to get NG

[glass monolith]

It took me 7 months from last top op. BOTH WERE CHEN POTS THANKS GAME, I DONT NEED 15 OPERATORS I AM MISSING

[foggy grove]

my last top is

[sonic willow]

I need 1 bagpot so I can pot5 her

wait, I lied. I need 2

[main halo]

And I need 1 Exu pot to complete her

[glass monolith]

i will take 3 more chen pots

[main halo]

Need 1 more

[quiet magnet]

hi should i switch anyone out?

[sonic willow]

replace SA with a vanguard
replace orchid with steward

Silverash will be great later, but pre-e2 he's a low hanging fruit

[glass monolith]

I wouldn't use gravel unless there is some target for her to bait and early game loves drones on all sides, do you have other snipers (Greyy don't count he is sniper who can't fire up)?

[sonic willow]

if you have perfumer, use her instead of gravel

[quiet magnet]

these r the only ones i have

[sonic willow]

you should have courier from credit shop

[quiet magnet]

oh people told me not to buy that

[glass monolith]

Fucking #help , let me grab my shotgun

[finite glade]

u get credits everyday

if its free its worth getting no matter how useless or useful

its the orange ones not the red ones

[glass monolith]

Not buying operator is bricking your credit shop slot for no good reason at all

[sonic willow]

I'm calling sus never seen someone say not to buy

[main halo]

Who exactly?

[latent anvil]

Bruh courier is actually free though 💀💀

[main halo]

Yeah

[glass monolith]

That slot could be recruit permit, EACH DAY

[umbral cloak]

Courier is a good boy too, really strong lane holder (For a vanguard)

[vernal lion]

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[main halo]

Credit's gotta be the cheapest currency

[vernal lion]

easy

[quiet magnet]

ohh nvm i sent a different person from the shop and someone said something along the lines of ur basically never buying people from shops so i just never did😭

[finite glade]

ling surtr best

[sonic willow]

what am I watching

[sonic willow]

it's ok

[glass monolith]

NOw repeat it on CM

[finite glade]

i used ling surtr 2 healers and 9 ops used for stall to clear that shit

ex 7 cm is mlre difficult 💀💀

[finite glade]

isit the red ones

i mean tho they free so might as well get

[latent anvil]

If you have the time to ling ex8 you can ling ex7

[finite glade]

ic

cos my fren figured it out so he showed me how

i prob cant copy him 100% used SA for that

and since i have neither ling or SA cant use his strat

[main halo]

And I thought #help is smarter than that

[latent anvil]

You don't need to kill Dorothy, she doesn't take life point

[quiet magnet]

i asked if i should buy sesa or something i think

[finite glade]

wha…

o

yellow ones

yea juz save those

90% of the time not worth getting cos those ops there change with the banner

and most of the time is the useless ops that come out

either that or useful but you already have

[sonic willow]

if you have surtr, you can borrow sa and just spawncamp doro

[finite glade]

the orange ones def should buy cos once u finish buying those ops u get more stuff

[finite glade]

i can kill doro

[umbral cloak]

Unless you REALLY want them, but really its best to save for game changing ops.. for example as much as I personally like Sesa, he really doesn't see much use

[finite glade]

my other ops not strong enuf to settle the waves after

[finite glade]

generally those yellow certs i prefer buying the very strong 6*

[main halo]

Let her live for medal

[glass monolith]

eternal war of someone having different opinion in other chat and then someone hearing that opinion goes to check another chat

[sonic willow]

pretty sur eyou can't buy ops with orange certs

[finite glade]

its with the banner?

changes like every ~20 days

2 specific ops in the banner will show up

5* for 45? 6* for 180

[sonic willow]

bro, that shits not orange

[umbral cloak]

Also have no idea what orange certs are unless you're talking about Parametric models

[finite glade]

o

mb

i read wrongly

nah i mean orange as in credits

not the certs

[glass monolith]

WHAT IS ORANGE?

[finite glade]

cos the orange certs are rare af

[glass monolith]

Oh, limited spark waste

[finite glade]

idk the names too lazy to learn

i juz go by color

[sonic willow]

the goldcerts are not orange

[finite glade]

i mean

the ones u get frm those limited banner ones

[sonic willow]

ah

[finite glade]

those are orange certs rite?

i dont remember the names lol

[sonic willow]

yes those are orange 💀

[spice gust]

the eyes are afraid but the hands do

[finite glade]

hell nah i need SA

i hate this game bruh

[glass monolith]

Stages shaped as W.
W is limited operator who don't get x5 on next limited so she is L.
L is shape of tile bans in chapter 10 hard

[wild hemlock]

I mean I have a level 90 one raised

If you can borrow

[finite glade]

waow

[finite glade]

i have frens with SA support

but i need more than juz SA

i used eyja to clear non challenge

so i could still handle the hordes pretty ok

[wild hemlock]

Which stage are we talking about rn

[finite glade]

but cos doro is stupidly non blockable and invisible i cant do shit

ex 7 cm

[spice gust]

u dont really need kill her u know. just let her go

[wild hemlock]

You can do what you did for the medal

And leak her

Yes

[finite glade]

i kill her like aft she comes out of the tunnel

[spice gust]

so what the problem?

[finite glade]

the waves after

[spice gust]

u dont need inv reveal for that

[finite glade]

cos i mostly used a blocker and support eyja

[finite glade]

i used SA for doro

plus surtr

can kill

but after the waves cos i used support SA i no support eyja so no dps

my ops juz die to everyone after

esp those big blobs

gay af

[spice gust]

so dont use sa... go for sutr armors at the right corner, caster for bottom one and sutr to help kill last

[vernal lion]

"easy"

[finite glade]

ic

[finite glade]

but i need SA for dorothy tho

unless i scene that shit

[soft crystal]

Ez

[finite glade]

but i tried and i still lost

[spice gust]

leave poor dorothy live holy

[finite glade]

ic

[gray stone]

You can just ignore Dorothy

[wild hemlock]

What did Dorothy do to you

[finite glade]

i try tmr or smthing

[wild hemlock]

😔

[soft crystal]

Theres a way to kill dorothy and the golems anyways

[finite glade]

she kills my ops bruh

[soft crystal]

With surtr

[finite glade]

so much dmg

[wild hemlock]

Just ignore her

[finite glade]

i try i try

[soft crystal]

Surtr+SA

[spice gust]

not at ch mode tho

[wild hemlock]

Let Saria or some other tank soak the damage

[soft crystal]

At cm yes

Thats why you have SA

[spice gust]

ah thats hard and not really neded

[finite glade]

yea

its the best i got

[soft crystal]

You can ignore and outheal her

[finite glade]

surtr SA

[wild hemlock]

What's the purpose of killing Dorothy tho

[finite glade]

but after that i lose everything else

[wild hemlock]

Like you don't get anything out of it

[soft crystal]

But you can spawnkill her

[finite glade]

its juz getting her out of the way

so she doesnt kill ur ops and her mines dont either

[soft crystal]

You get a bit easier stage with no constant arts damage

[finite glade]

ones less person to deal with

[spice gust]

u wasting ur dp for kill her and cant place ur stronghold for waves

[gray stone]

If she is ever a problem I can only say it's a skill issue

[finite glade]

ic

[wild hemlock]

Just ignore her ass

[soft crystal]

it worked out fot me

[finite glade]

okok fine

chill bruh

[spice gust]

btw amazing ex stages, i love it.

[gray stone]

Silvergun used Cutter on the boss and it worked out so I guess everyone can just Cutter it

[finite glade]

my healers weak af nvr build them hopefully they good enuf

[finite glade]

ic

[gray stone]

No it's a joke

And the stage I was talking about is DV-8

[foggy grove]

have mercy at the rat
i killed her in practice tho

[gray stone]

I recommend just Surtr the power armors at the far right and then use Eyja to get top and middle one out of the way

[glass monolith]

I love all those "Just ling it" who end up killing her

[soft crystal]

Just cutter it

In my case i chend it

[wild hemlock]

Balans

[foggy grove]

i actually taking extra care not to kill her on medal run,she end up almost full hp

[soft crystal]

Not squirt chen

Guard chen

Squirt chen cringe

[wild hemlock]

The other kind of balans

[main halo]

I hate having to hold my punches on her

But I don't have a choice

[sinful gull]

Which Operator is Good for Ex-Cm ( Except Surtr and Eyja , I Need More Arts Damage )

[finite glade]

which one

up til ex7 i used passenger

guard amiya is quite solid if u keep her alive ig

[sinful gull]

I See , I Used Surtr and Eyja from Support Until Ex 8 - Cm .
I Will use Mrtyle-Surtr-Ling Strategy for Ex8 - Cm

[finite glade]

icic

[sinful gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K41t8NitYvY&ab_channel=BlackRosemary

[finite glade]

lappy oso not bad but only during her skill if u looking for arts

or horn

if u can stall long enuf or time her skill well

her overload phase s3 is pretty good dmg overall

[sinful gull]

I Have Horn but Enemies are very Strong to Pyhsical Damage , I Agree S3 is Very Good , Maybe I Can try it

[finite glade]

or shwartz

she doesnt do arts but she still hits hard s3

cos or her defense drop talent plus her dmg is juz incredibly high

poz fairly ok ig?

[patent oriole]

Saria s3

[sinful gull]

I Think Main Problem of Players for Ex8 Cm is Boss do One-Shot , Lumen and Shining are good choices .Boss Mechanics are Actually Easy

[sonic willow]

people don't read or think for the most part

[finite glade]

ling surtr vry good for that tho

[sonic willow]

it takes a lot of thinking, but it is very clear how to solve the stage

[finite glade]

i juz had a healer on support ling

surtr not even maxed

[finite glade]

base e2 lumen makes sure both himself and ling doesnt die

[glass monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmBb8nauGB4

[finite glade]

not nice

[vernal lion]

out of that, he used his 5 and 6 star op to get the medal

[finite glade]

i should have built my 4* not my 3* dammit

[frail wagon]

That ain’t nice

How much damages does Dorothy deal again

Like why in EX-7 (even with CM) her ranged damages basically doesn’t bother me

But in EX-8 CM it’s just pain

[sonic willow]

maybe because you are bombarded with aoe damage and the directional spikes

[frail wagon]

Make senses

[glass monolith]

Also unsolved 1x1 rubic cubes ranged attacks

[soft crystal]

Just spawn kill dorothy honestly

In cm with silverash and aak

[lethal dragon]

Surely chances of ceobe and bagpeepo shoperator will be increased

Oh fuck ceobe or bagpipe will cost the new certificates??

Fuck??

[gray stone]

No

You can literally see that from the pic

You can buy the Standard2 units with gold certs too

[lethal dragon]

I will finally be able to get ceobe

😭

So tl;Dr now we have a guaranteed pity and shorter roster for standard banner?

[sonic willow]

yes

[sonic willow]

it's called core

[gray stone]

No difference

[sonic willow]

takes 5 more clicks

[lethal dragon]

True

[frail wagon]

So we now have like 2 6 stars shop operator in rotation

Amazing

[north jungle]

Who are the must haves for a sleep team?

[pure orchid]

every sleep operator since there's just a few of them anyways

[frail wagon]

Every sleep ones but the core is like Blemishine and Erato/Blacknight (I think?)

[lethal dragon]

Blacknight blemishine and kafka

Erato dps ig

[frail wagon]

Not really into Sleepknights much since they aren’t really much interesting to play

[pure orchid]

you can say that it's a snoozefest

[sweet flower]

guys how to clear DV-EX-8 CM

[frail wagon]

DPS forces

[latent anvil]

Surtr

[sweet flower]

I'm trying to use surtr but it didn't working

[latent anvil]

Oh

[frail wagon]

Basically have Eyja and Surtr and your life is easier

[sweet flower]

no have one

[frail wagon]

blue woman too

[sweet flower]

no have

[frail wagon]

Can’t you just use support unit?

For like one of em?

[sweet flower]

but can only use 1
the guide say i need 2

[pure orchid]

inb4 they're already borrowing surtr

[frail wagon]

Ohhh

[wild hemlock]

Who do you have

Can you send roster

[frail wagon]

What’s your squad anyways

[sweet flower]

wait for 1 min

[pure orchid]

Here’s a dv-ex-8 cm run that uses ling s3, skalter s1, and thrm ex

Tho ofc, you could always just use more ops

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15a411M7wQ/

[frail wagon]

All skill M3? (Not thrm ex ofc)

I’ll just assume they’ll always be M3 for low ops run

[soft crystal]

I think ifrit can also clear some of the robots

[sonic willow]

props to people figuring out ling clears, but that shit always feels cheap af

[frail wagon]

Ifrit can clear the below lane inactive robots yeah

[frail wagon]

Ling’s just good in most roles

[dreamy quail]

I like using pozy to kill the dv-ex-8 boss quick. Boss teleports right in front of her

[wild hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqEYY-C3h0&t=10s&ab_channel=Eckogen Can also try this

[sweet flower]

My pozy is only s3m2. I suck at those nanoflake things

[wild hemlock]

Although you can try the Skalter S1 thing yeah

[frail wagon]

Yeah not really when the boss went into 2nd phase since it can just kills her with the 4 directions attack

[pure orchid]

I don’t think i deserve any props since my brain has rotted to the point that I find ling solos/duos simpler than using full squads

[frail wagon]

If the boss teleport like right in front of your Pozy

[dreamy quail]

my pozy survives with a tiny amount of hp that gets healed by saria, warfarin, and ptilo

[frail wagon]

Oh yeah outhealing works

[sonic willow]

if you mean following them, sure
but figuring them out, disagree

[sweet flower]

I dont have enough things to build ptilo and wafarin

[sonic willow]

unnecessary

just e1 60 perfumer

[pure orchid]

There’s just something about having less variables to tinker with that makes it easier for me

Compared to like, having 12 people that do completely different things

But maybe that’s just my brain rotting

[frail wagon]

Fr

[dreamy quail]

my pozy e2 lvl 60 with 200% trust and S3M3 mod 3 so your results may vary

[sonic willow]

perhaps

[pure orchid]

also nah i never follow guides for ling stuff (or anything really)

eventually i just give up and rarity abuse like everyone else

[sonic willow]

so it is easier to not do ling solo

[pure orchid]

Not really since I have to relearn how every op i plan to use works again

It doesn’t take long, but it sure as hell is more annoying than just ling stuff

[sonic willow]

hmmmmm

[pure orchid]

Its like this

Ive gotten so used to using ling for everything that when I need to use someone else like say, thorns, i need to remember that he has sniper range, is offensive recovery type, can get overrun because of not being aoe, etc

meanwhile ling is like

place dragon, win

and then there’s other moments like

“Oh i forgot surtr can reach that enemy because of her range extension”

or or “oh right, silverash has invis reveal”

[sonic willow]

interesting, I've never forgotten that surtr goes 3 tiles

and I've taken like 6 month breaks from the game

[pure orchid]

I didn’t even think of using silverash s3 for dv-ex-7 cm until i saw a vid on yt

[sonic willow]

ig if you reaalllyyy forget

ling is comfier since it's literally just placing 3 mudrocks and shleep\

[pure orchid]

Exactly how i feel

[turbid badge]

ifrit gaming

[sonic willow]

what the f is that in front of saria

[foggy grove]

eun gaming?

[turbid badge]

lol

[frail wagon]

Your average sargonian gundam

[wild hemlock]

Eunuctes

[elder flume]

gladiia also has ange bug

[vernal lion]

https://youtu.be/dgaizmTAtrE

[lapis hornet]

ok ill skip mlynar noted

[vernal lion]

so now 150 pulls and you will TOTALLY get the main rate up op

give back my orundum from GG banner

[frail wagon]

That isn’t that for like, debut/rerun solo rate up banners

[vernal lion]

the main banner

if you all get off rate in 149 pulls, then the 150th will be the main rate up op

because F2P is a pain