strategy

[livid delta]

Have you seen my cn account

[wary wing]

how to raise without salt

[neat skiff]

Absolutely.

[elder flume]

does cn not pick cutter

[livid delta]

Probably competes with highmorb

[neat skiff]

We have already had a CC without marksman modules.

[glass monolith]

We had drone boss without marksman modules

[neat skiff]

The only certainty we do have is CH 11 before Texalter since without Texalter is capped SL6.

Penance can go higher but cannot M3 any of her skills.

[proud drift]

I do wonder what sets the schedule behind so much

Isn’t the code just copy paste

[livid delta]

Wdym schedule

[neat skiff]

The people in global choosing the schedule.

It's never once been a 1:1 delay. there has always been some shuffling.

[molten swan]

I’m very sure oyster doesnt manage schedule contrary to popular beliefs

Yostar manages media and merch in glb and animation

[neat skiff]

If you look at global history there has been a fairly stable "1 new banner per month".

[molten swan]

Hg does everything in cn and manage glb schedule

[proud drift]

It would be nice if they would lower the time gap between cn and en more and more similar to how blue archive is doing so

[livid delta]

"Following schedule" would require global to be following CN to begin with
They have never done this since global released in January 2020

[neat skiff]

They're doing the direct opposite.

[proud drift]

BA str8 up said “ayo we’re 1 month closer to being 1:1 with KR so here’s a fat reward for everyone”

[neat skiff]

We're almost 7 months behind CN now. We used to be 6 months last year.

[proud drift]

FGO is strictly on a 2year gap, but at least we get EN-exclusive events

Honkai is str8 up only a patch behind (CN is basically just beta testing)

Ak meanwhile pure chaos

[neat skiff]

I'm still just waiting to find out Dorothy is CN exclusive and the next event is CH 11.

[glass monolith]

I joined during DH so i had no clue about entire schedule fucking but lets see that part of AK story:
CN: Vigilo -> Great Chief rerun -> DH -> CC6 -> dead week -> Ch9 -> MN rerun -> PS -> dead week -> NL-> CC7 -> MB rerun -> BtI
Global: DH -> Great chief rerun -> Vigilo -> CC6 -> Ch9 -> MN rerun -> PS -> dead week -> NL -> dead week -> MB rerun -> CC7 -> dead week -> BtI

I love how english fandom don't even have Dorothy event in there

[pearl musk]

How to clear chocolate street? I made it to 96 enemies before something leaked and I decided to exit to save sanity

[glass monolith]

As when it took place in CN

You kill towers, then you kill everything else

If enemy kill tower, kill it back or you fucked

[pearl musk]

Huh

Anything else to note like bring how many laneholder etc

I started with courier then gavalter to atk one tower

Then honey berry to heal

[proud drift]

3 laneholders, 2 baits, a couple strong arts and a decent medic, preferably elemental

[cyan gorge]

Pozy turret is good for reclaiming towers

[proud drift]

Tower reclaimers useful as well

[pearl musk]

Would you consider Irene a laneholder

[tame schooner]

For CM S-2 DH by how much does it boost the stats of everything?

[turbid badge]

be careful for disarm guy and , during waves when boom boom guys come and towers are red

[turbid badge]

Yeah

[proud drift]

You could try ifrit laning it or you could try a fia borrow

[proud drift]

You can bait him

[pearl musk]

I want to clear with my own ops

So cam auto

[cyan gorge]

Enough so your medics get one shot

[tame schooner]

I noticed that

[proud drift]

Yeaaaaah for chocolate that’s a big copium

I don’t think you can get it with your ops

[pearl musk]

Need more arts?

[cyan gorge]

I think it’s doable

[turbid badge]

its doable

[proud drift]

Hmm

[turbid badge]

kal is a laneholder too u have monster

i acctually used her s2 lol

[proud drift]

Idk if Irene would be enough for top lane

You could monter mudrock middle

[cyan gorge]

Kal and Mud can carry a lane each

I’d put Irene mid

[proud drift]

Honeyberry wouldn’t be needed if irene top idk

Cuz there’s only one cart shit that spawns up top iirc

[cyan gorge]

Irene and Saria for main with HB heals

Pozy too

Occasional Surtr

[pearl musk]

Bring amiya or nah

[proud drift]

Gnosis for topside

And middle up

Can reach middle bottom too actually maybe nvm

[turbid badge]

what does team look like now?

[proud drift]

Gravel and another frd would be very useful imo

I relied on gladiia for soaking and it was banger

Gravel was useful af too

[cyan gorge]

I’d bring Canta over gravel tbh

[proud drift]

Gravel has big shield

Idk

More redeploy

And in my case I had a mod so she was very cheap

[cyan gorge]

Canta does damage and can kill tower faster

[turbid badge]

truuee

canta s1

[proud drift]

Oh I brought gravel not for tower lol

[turbid badge]

or s2?

[proud drift]

For baiting axe dudes and baiting rockets

[turbid badge]

oh wait dp wont be a issue

since towers

[cyan gorge]

I prefer S2 but either works

[turbid badge]

or well really shouldn't

"omegalul

[pearl musk]

Looks like this now

[proud drift]

S1 should be better for tower claiming no?

It has a lot more raw dmg

[pearl musk]

Amiya s1 2 or 3

[proud drift]

Tho idk if the same for DPS

[pearl musk]

Gnosis s2 or 3

[cyan gorge]

Gnosis S3

[pearl musk]

Honey berry auto skill or nah

[turbid badge]

honeyberry s1 for sure

amiya probably s2? the tower giving sp can also help as it is 100 SP lol...

[pearl musk]

Mud and Irene for mid?

And kal for top

Amiya help bot mid

Gnosis help top and mid

[cyan gorge]

Mud is better for bottom or top

I think you should put her top with Gnosis or Amiya support

[smoky cypress]

Hmm

[pearl musk]

skill changes

So saria needed?

[cyan gorge]

For holding main yeah

[pearl musk]

Pozy bot mid or top

So saria and kal mid, mud top

Gnosis top and mid

[cyan gorge]

Put her out of range of mobs but can still hit important spots

[pearl musk]

Amiya just pick some where

[cyan gorge]

My set up looked like this

Pozy maybe in Mulberry’s spot

[molten swan]

Cringe pozy placement

[pearl musk]

Ic

I'll place honey in warf place

[frigid kite]

Pozy Is only doing the work she was made for

[pearl musk]

Or behind one tile

[frigid kite]

Doing nothing 💀

[pearl musk]

Why is mud so far in front

[cyan gorge]

To keep things in Fia S3 range

[pearl musk]

Ic but I no fia

So I'll place her back

Unless I should place gnosis there

[cyan gorge]

You can place her on stairs

[pearl musk]

Ok

Let's see

[proud drift]

I should’ve considered that fia placement for spawnkilling bruh

[pearl musk]

I have a 1 hour bus ride when it actually arrives

So I'll have time

Looks good?

[neat skiff]

Kal will die near the end from 2 casters coming out of bot middle red box.

She can survive 1 but not both at E2L90.

[cyan gorge]

Mine survived, but that’s also cause she was in MB range

[turbid badge]

might need to deploy ur bait lul

for em

[neat skiff]

Good news at least, near the end it's only 1 enemy left. The disarm axe dude. There is a red one near the very end but he walks down the stairs and never shows up again.

[smoky cypress]

[glass monolith]

I love how because he instantly die after walk into middle of map everyone just accept it as disappearance after entering stairs

[neat skiff]

Oh shit he apparently does.

[proud drift]

Gnosis will die lol

He should be in honeyberry’s spot, honeyberry behind gnosis

[pearl musk]

Ok

[latent halo]

Any afk setup ?

[smoky cypress]

[neat skiff]

While there are a bunch they all depend on a host of high level 6 stars.

[smoky cypress]

You can watch ytb 👍

[neat skiff]

GA enemies hit a lot harder than people expect.

Fortunately next anni is more about enemy management than "lol everyone died".

17 is back to "lol everyone died, but in biege"

[smoky cypress]

Don't worry we have

[neat skiff]

Yeah, thankfully the tile layout is much friendlier than most of the event stages.

[molten swan]

The tile layouts are friendly

The ice cream towers’ are not

[neat skiff]

I'm talking about 16.

Especially with Lappdumb silence actually being useful. Jaye S1 to the rescue.

[proud drift]

Oh right next anni is the funny one huh

[neat skiff]

Stultifera navis with 3 roombas and no mods.

Clean creep and nothing more.

[proud drift]

Huh only 3 roombas??

But the real question is

Is it fiammettable

[neat skiff]

Wait, I'm mistaken. It;s 4 roombas.

Probably.

[proud drift]

Oh very

You just fiammetta middle with 2 blockers + lappdumb

Have gnosis S2 on standby

Oh wait

There’s a lane in the top

Wtf

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[proud drift]

That’s cringe

Well

[neat skiff]

Also, bunch of creep up there.

[proud drift]

On one side it’s cringe

On other side it allows you to put lappdumb and thorns facedown

[neat skiff]

Certainly unique positioning there.

[proud drift]

Oh yea I should raise hoshi finally so I can just slap her there on the creep and have her bounce all the global ones

[neat skiff]

Could also put Mlynar there.

[proud drift]

Wait right we’re gonna have mlynar and sexas for it won’t we

[neat skiff]

Hopefully.

With how fucked the schedule is right now we might only have Texalter.

[glass monolith]

This right here, is cancer

[neat skiff]

How?

[proud drift]

I

Just realised sth

I don’t think hoshi meme will work

What the fuck

[elder flume]

flying enemies my weakness

[storm current]

that look like reef breaker spawner

or spitter would be cancer too

wait no

[proud drift]

Reef breaker is christmas tree right

[storm current]

they are spewer

[proud drift]

Yea christmas tree

And spewers are what

[fair pasture]

but

[proud drift]

Wait a second

Flying enemies

Did SN have them???

[proud drift]

Pls god no

[neat skiff]

There is UT flying enemies.

[proud drift]

Oh those are nothing

[fair pasture]

thinking*

[neat skiff]

Also, there are no evil christmas trees.

[proud drift]

I still think it’s the spawner for those global shooters

Cause that’d just be too fitting for them

They move slow af, they shoot very fast and very hard

Thank god SN doesn’t have enemies that spawn shart on-spawn

Wait the Fia tile tho is so godly

It touches top lane too a little

With the outter edge of s3

You can maybe also cope an ifrit lane

[neat skiff]

GG S2 works wonders in 16.

[glass monolith]

Thansk god anni skip exists because fuck this event this annih this shit

[molten swan]

Nice predator spam

[neat skiff]

It's better than 15 and 18.

[glass monolith]

But 15 is free

15 is choco street, right?

[neat skiff]

15 is current global.

[glass monolith]

free

Outside of 350

[neat skiff]

16 enemies don't hit nearly as hard and silence is worth a damn.

[glass monolith]

Well good cuz i have Jaye s1 for silence only

[molten swan]

Lappdumb reigns another anni

Ssg

[neat skiff]

Hell, more than 1 enemy kills themself on the angry tile.

[proud drift]

Wtf weedy

[fierce vale]

Lappland ok replacement for arene in kyostin low end chocolate road right? Idk how her auto s2 will affect the run tho.

[neat skiff]

Yeah, either her or Irene S1 seems to be a super popular strat. Really not too sure why.

[molten swan]

Uhh

Works

Probably

Lappdumb with ice cream has decent uptime

[fair pasture]

Found one with fia

[molten swan]

Should get her skill up fine

[fierce vale]

Ice cream?

[glass monolith]

I think she suppose to push enemy back into box so it don't spawn piss ground

[neat skiff]

Ice cream = Surtr.

[proud drift]

That’s a weird fia spot ngl

Unless important enemies go there or sth

[molten swan]

Idk that looks fine

[proud drift]

Also those 2 swarmcallers at the bottom

Are fucking criminal

[neat skiff]

A whole bunch of enemies either spawn there or walk there.

[fair pasture]

s3 spawn killing yoo

[proud drift]

Oh so you can place hoshiguma like that

Yeah I’m finishing leveling hoshi I guess

Though honeyberry placement is interesting lmao

Also who that above skalter

[fair pasture]

The gelato device that sp gains allies. Gelato is Italian ice cream you know

[neat skiff]

Blez.

[proud drift]

Ah

Fuck I don’t have horny tho

And lumen ain’t leveled

Guess I could cope with whisperrain in his spot

[neat skiff]

Lumen is used as an actual healer there, not for his resist.

[proud drift]

But no horn probably makes it a bitch

Yeah but his range is stupid

Whisperrain for range

Actually would honeyberry not be enough there

In his spot

She doesn’t reach hoshiguma either way so clearly hoshi doesn’t care about stun

[neat skiff]

Lumen is healing Thorns and Saria.

[proud drift]

So would honeyberry

And skalter

[neat skiff]

What? Honey is 100% healing Hoshi.

[proud drift]

Oh wait does that reach

Oh ya it does

Bruh

Still, can’t really replace horn

[neat skiff]

Literal first time I've seen Horn used in the anni.

[proud drift]

Well what would you replace her with there

Mudrock?

[neat skiff]

I wouldn't even replace her.

[proud drift]

[neat skiff]

Blaze is more than enough to deal with it.

[proud drift]

Well sure hope so

[neat skiff]

Plus Horn is there to help Fia kill those enemies down there.

[fair pasture]

Horn doesn’t matter 99%

[neat skiff]

You haven't seen any clear vids? Texas + Skalter and E1 Honey is enough for top lane.

5 star, S1 Texas.

[proud drift]

Guess I’d have to hope that whisperrain can heal enough

I haven’t watched any, no

My idea was to uhhh

[neat skiff]

There are no evil christmas trees.

[proud drift]

Gimme a sec

[neat skiff]

The literal worst enemies you see are in the screenshot with the odd but effective Fia placement.

[proud drift]

My idea

Was to Fia there

[neat skiff]

Red "I get triple def when below 50% hp" and the spinny bois.

[molten swan]

To be brutally honest

Without the squiggly wigglies

[proud drift]

Block with saria and sth else

[molten swan]

The map loses 50% of its potential threat

You are damn grateful they dont include them

[proud drift]

And from top face down lapp+thorns

Issue is lapp can’t multisilence

[neat skiff]

...

[proud drift]

And the staff dudes, well, rip

[molten swan]

Wtfart

[proud drift]

I know what you’re wtf’ing about and my answer is

[glass monolith]

best Jessica skin

[neat skiff]

Scavenger (squishy af) and Chestnut (super low healing) is enough for top lane.

[proud drift]

On my way! to preplace lappdumb 300 specific enemies in advance so her s2 triggers exactly for multihitting two staff dudes

[neat skiff]

There is also a Jaye who gets used to help Scav dps.

[proud drift]

And doesn’t last too long or too little

[neat skiff]

But the enemies in 16 hurt a LOT less than 15.

[glass monolith]

16 give me PTSD damage

[neat skiff]

This also works.

[proud drift]

Huh, that’s all??

[molten swan]

…

Yes

Probably

[proud drift]

Wtf

Why is it so simple

[neat skiff]

It is a lot easier than you are thinking. Like, a lot easier.

[molten swan]

It is simple

When you dont try to pierce the triple def staff mofos

[neat skiff]

Over 90% of the enemies are the common mook enemies.

[molten swan]

With fia

[proud drift]

I guess ptsd from event

[neat skiff]

Almost half are the undertides dogs and drones.

There is no evil christmas tree, the def dudes are rare, 1 even kills themself on the angry tile for you.

[proud drift]

Them going into stairs ig is nice

Cuz stairs makes it so they don’t shart

[neat skiff]

Yup.

You want a "that's all?"

Weedy above Skalter.

[proud drift]

[glass monolith]

Anyway, let's go back to good news. Was SSS nerfed first time on Mlynar?

[molten swan]

Weedy s1 stuns
Fun

Yes it was nerfed on aw

[neat skiff]

Yeah, Weedy S1 or Irene S1 are super popular choices for top lane.

[glass monolith]

You know what? Fuck Dorothy then

[neat skiff]

Yeah, it would not surprise me to find out she will be 10-12 months behind her CN release due to all the delays.

Already 8.5 months.

Doubt the devs would want to mess with the income from the anniversary events.

[sharp swallow]

How do you kill Mudrock the enemy? Does she just have a shield you have to lob damage at until it breaks?

[neat skiff]

Exactly.

[frigid kite]

Is this the next anni?

[cursive wedge]

after monster hunter colab is dorothy

[civic nest]

the tower helps a lot if ur wondering

[cursive wedge]

[frigid kite]

Cool

[frigid kite]

Destroy the shield with arts btw

[neat skiff]

If you jave a way of dealing with creep spawning enmies it's a lot easier than current anni.

[frigid kite]

Do the creep enemies spawn only in 1 place?

[neat skiff]

There are a couple places they can come from.

[frigid kite]

I can see

[sharp swallow]

But Mudrock’s arts damage is reduced already by 55% in the contingency thing

[neat skiff]

Hell, some strats don't deal with the creep at all. either ranged only or just deal with the creep sanity damage.

[civic nest]

oh daily cc

[sharp swallow]

Can snipers do it?

[neat skiff]

Oh, if it's CC Mudrck then just leak her.

[civic nest]

u should have specify

[frigid kite]

Ah

[sharp swallow]

Leak?

[neat skiff]

We thought you were talking event Mudrock.

[sharp swallow]

Oh no no

[neat skiff]

Leak = "let them walk into the blue box"

[frigid kite]

Yeah i'm guessing

[neat skiff]

CC does not give a single solitary shit about leaks as long as you have at least 1 life left.

[frigid kite]

Will do this strat lol

[proud drift]

Anything SN-themed is just lappdumb playground

Go into anni

Deploy lappdumb

Play vergil theme

Afk

[cyan gorge]

Gnosis

[proud drift]

Who

The guy who can’t freeze without aspd buffs or using skills?

[civic nest]

handsome bird man

[frigid kite]

Woow

Exposing

[neat skiff]

No one can freeze without skills...

[proud drift]

Yea that’s why he’s a bad counter for this anni in afk strats

Cuz he needs to press button

Unless you cope s1

[frigid kite]

I don't have Eyja tho

[proud drift]

Also freeze doesn’t silence the dudes who fart tiles

[frigid kite]

Guess i'm using Ceobe or Exu

[proud drift]

No pink cat?

[neat skiff]

Eyja = any caster with a bit of AoE.

[frigid kite]

Hmm

[proud drift]

S2 eyja and S2 cat are synonymous

[frigid kite]

How about this one?

[neat skiff]

That one is mostly about healing Vigils summon.

[civic nest]

dusk doesn’t exist

[neat skiff]

Can be replaced with a healing defender like Gummy.

[frigid kite]

Hm

Is AoE really necessary?

[neat skiff]

Really necessary, no. Does it help? Absolutely.

[frigid kite]

Ah I see

[neat skiff]

Ceobe S2 would probably be pretty great with passable skill timing.

[frigid kite]

I'm going to use Mlynar or Ceobe or anything else lol

Tt

Ty

[neat skiff]

Especially for the triple def dudes.

They play right into Ceobes talent.

[civic nest]

triple def?

wth

[frigid kite]

Dog's breakfast

The elders

[neat skiff]

When below 50% hp they gain triple def.

[frigid kite]

With the shield

[civic nest]

ah the old man

with the cane

[frigid kite]

With the

[neat skiff]

Yee.

[frigid kite]

With the buff

[frigid kite]

Nope

Never for her

[proud drift]

Wtf

She cute

[frigid kite]

(never pulled too 💀)

[proud drift]

Why so toxic to pink cat

[frigid kite]

Nah I just never liked her

I liked more Ceobe

And I was saving for Gavialter at that time too

Ironically it was for Pozy

[proud drift]

I didn’t even bother getting gavialter

Lower brain does not feel anything from her and I didn’t really need her as a unit

[frigid kite]

I understand it

[proud drift]

Like imma say smth stupid, but comparing her to other limiteds like ling, chalter, sexas, even W

Her kit is boring and she seems very meh in comparison of power level

[sharp swallow]

So uh having one life makes it hard to Leak Mudrock

[proud drift]

How about not having one life

[sharp swallow]

What about all 7?

[frigid kite]

True, but to me she is a "Stay here and do the AoE damage, good job, get healed and tank " which I like

[proud drift]

Why do all 7

[frigid kite]

Team?

[proud drift]

This should make it pretty ez

You can stall the roccs and big bob with smth silly like beanstalk s1 e0 lv1 and 3 fast redeploys

As they get whittled down by sm1 like eyja or gg

[neat skiff]

For max rewards you only need risk 4.

[civic nest]

r7 flex ig?

[proud drift]

Yup that’s a r7 flex team ig

[sharp swallow]

Look I’m a completionist

I can’t leave something undone

[proud drift]

You don’t get anything from doing it

Not a medal or anything like that

[civic nest]

ntrk s1

huh

bagpipe s2

[frigid kite]

I see

Are you willing to borrow?

[civic nest]

borrow mudrock s3

trust

[sharp swallow]

Yea

[frigid kite]

Mudrock vs mudrock

Alright pretty easy

Give me 3 mnts or so

[civic nest]

first thing is use ntrk s3

why s1

bagpipe s3

yea this is pretty easy

[proud drift]

Bagpipe is e1

Feetus

[frigid kite]

E2 in spirit

[sharp swallow]

S1 does higher dps due to unlimited duration. (I may be wrong but that’s typically why I use it over S3)

[proud drift]

Completely wrong

[civic nest]

oh yea

wtfart

i’m blind

[neat skiff]

S1 = afk.
S3 = burst.

[proud drift]

Numbers on paper does not translate to reality

[civic nest]

it’s lower dps when s3 is active

like much lower

also true damage

[proud drift]

You will get a lot more use from slapping roccs, bigbob and mudrock with true damage from S3

Than from S1 at any point in the game

[sharp swallow]

But won’t they destroy her “Sun” like instantly?

[proud drift]

S2 would probably outdamage quite hard too

Rocks aren’t buffed

So they don’t hurt

Only like 2k atk or sth iirc?

[neat skiff]

NTR S1 is basically "use in annihilations and not much else"

[proud drift]

Bob might hurt, but again, with how slow he attacks what you can do is place bait for his autoattack

And then deploy ntr s3

After he destroys it and walks to ntr, deploy another bait to splitbox him into ntr as the bait gets slapped

And you get another 2-3 hits of true damage

[sharp swallow]

Couldn’t you use Parmanix for that too

Slow attack speed

[proud drift]

Issue is stacking 60% hp on bob and mud + 70% global hp buff

Makes them uhh

Very C H O N K

Cuz individual hp buff and global hp buff

Is a very funny

Base hp X individual X global

Not individual+global

I wanna try my funny stall tho

For the rocks and bob

[full finch]

wait
is this abandoned mine?

[sharp swallow]

Wait so unlimited skills are typically only for Annihilations?

[sharp swallow]

And yea

[neat skiff]

It depends on which unlimited skill.

Thorns and Blaze get used basically everywhere.

GoldenGlow can be used is more stages than NTR S1 but it mostly shines in anni.

[full finch]

if you borrow a chalter she deals with the golems and bosses

[proud drift]

Yes and no

[neat skiff]

NTR just has such good S2 and S3 skills that her S1 is the most underwhelming part of her whole kit.

[proud drift]

S1 on most units is just worse at any point compared to S3 or even S2

Just cause pozemka’s S1 is unlimited ain’t gonna make it better than S3, I’d use S3 even in anni just cause of how absurd it is

[sharp swallow]

Only exceptions to this tho are Nearl and Gummy?

[proud drift]

Hence why “most units”

Not all S1 are bad

But big majority are useless compared to other abilities in their kits

[neat skiff]

There are always exceptions.

[proud drift]

Gladiia S1 for example goes very hard

[full finch]

ntrk S1 is unusually good

it deals astonishingly high damage and even has range extension

[proud drift]

But then there’s S2 and S3

[full finch]

S1 deals enough damage to be competitive in rare scenarios

however it's ultimately an replaceable skill

[neat skiff]

Key word being rare.

[livid delta]

I prefer medium rare myself

What skill are people shilling for Rath

[proud drift]

Lol

Three FRDs can stall big bob forever

Though my gravel is e2 40 so she lives a hit

I accidentally slept on beanstalk’s stall spot

Was too focused on seeing mudrock vs mudrock

If you place her 1 tile back a bit she should be able to tank mud a lot more

[full finch]

S2 is way better

[livid delta]

Like dps or aesthetics

[proud drift]

S2 can hit drones

[full finch]

S2 deals more damage and doesn't have extra conditions

[livid delta]

It doesn't look as cool though

[fair pasture]

s1 is good old non-stoping … skill

[livid delta]

He does the weeb stance with s1

[fair pasture]

like chongyue audio is nerfed, but we got ratho s1 for some heartwarming meme effect

[full finch]

you can also say S1 can reproc infinitely

but it's still not good

[fair pasture]

Only good for small mobs yea

s1
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[light roost]

Does thorns count as ranged unit

[scarlet fulcrum]

Meele unit

[frigid kite]

@sharp swallow did you do it already?

[sharp swallow]

I took a break for today since I’ve been playing for three hours

[frigid kite]

Cool

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats good

[iron brook]

why does my e2lv60 blaze keep getting KOed in this stage?
(DH-MO-1)

[proud drift]

because her DEF goes to 0 eventually

and then she gets rammed by funny boats

she also uh

has no healer

unfortunately fire does not heal her

[iron brook]

yea i made a mistake in that SS but the healer is Nightingale

(why? because enemy casters)

[proud drift]

it's still not enough

your first mistake is not having the anti-erosion devices

[scarlet ledge]

so much pro

[proud drift]

your saria blaze flametail and lappdumb will eventually go down to 0 def

[ebon musk]

is it just me, or does milan's "put the 70 dp thing in your hand" skill not work
i only got that ability once in an entire game
even though it's supposed to trigger once every 80 seconds

[proud drift]

and boats will do full ramming damage

[iron brook]

last i tested, the erosion protection devices don't stop the enemies from inflicting it on you

so where's the difference in that vs. the +50 erosion rec?

[latent monolith]

Erosion is not corrosion
First is the water rising, second is elemental damage

[proud drift]

it doesn't stop casters from applying corrosion

it stops erosion from debuffing your ops

a.k.a when water go up

random invis snipers won't shred your ops

kaboom boats won't oneshot their def

etc.

[scarlet ledge]

i want to get rammed by boats

dswopey, i havent done my dh anni on weird acc lul

lazy

💀

[proud drift]

huh

why are dude boats

silence immune

[iron brook]

naruhodo....

[proud drift]

oh I guess cause silence disables talents

so silence immune to prevent cheese

[storm current]

@iron brooksee this guy?

1400 atk

when he first ram into blaze

then he attack

[proud drift]

oh right

[storm current]

for 2800 physical in total

[proud drift]

blaze is 3block

so she gets double hit

[iron brook]

???

double?

[proud drift]

the boats do ram damage equal to 100% of their ATK

and then also hit the op if they're blocked

[storm current]

if your blaze has 0 def and this much hp, she aint gonna make it

[iron brook]

i see

[proud drift]

so if a defender or any 3block blocks them

they take double damage basically on first hit

[iron brook]

[proud drift]

basically when water goes up, all the operators in water take a certain % of damage taken

as corrosion damage

so the bubble removes that

with bubble ONLY casters can affect it

the casters are also another reason why honeyberry

berry good

[iron brook]

hmm

i know honney berry good for elemental dmg

will she be enough healing in general for blaze (lappland seems to be fine)

(e1lv70 Honeyberry)

[storm current]

My e1 50 honeyberry work

[proud drift]

should mostly be enough

[storm current]

But what sticker are you running

And who are you borrowing

[proud drift]

I have e2 30 honey and she healed most of hoshiguma's corrosion (with bubble)

hoshi still had 500 def or sth by the end of stage

[iron brook]

-+200 atk for "Ranged" units
-+40% atk for "melee" units under erosion
-no atk spd reduction under erosion for "melee"

what was that other one

[storm current]

Uh

[proud drift]

remove +40% atk

[storm current]

Thats pretty bad

[iron brook]

not sure right now but i did grab the device this time

[storm current]

You run neither wandering or the corrosion heal

So lol

[iron brook]

ah that

[proud drift]

I personally ran +200 atk for ranged cuz skalter, no atk spd reduction for ranged, device and iirc both corrosion heals

[iron brook]

the +50 rec for ranged

[storm current]

Imo

The better strategy is running range carry

While your ground ops are for blocking

I would run like,
Range 200 atk
Melee 200 def
Bubble shield 3

And 50 corrosion heal for both melee and range prob

[proud drift]

range 200 atk is so good if you have skalter

because it becomes range +300 atk melee +100 atk

[scarlet ledge]

ok done uploading stuff

hi loli

[storm current]

Man dead week

I want to pull soon

Saved up over 300 pulls

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[storm current]

||across multiple account||

[scarlet ledge]

[storm current]

To obviously satisfy the gacha addiction

[proud drift]

huh

again??

on god we're gonna get sexas before mlynar

unless mlynar and ch11 comes out together

inb4 ch11 after siracusa

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mlynar can happen anytime, meanwhile texas need salt from ch11

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current i pull on everybanner

[storm current]

[scarlet ledge]

to satisfy my gacha addiction

but hey its worked

[proud drift]

dorothy can also happen anytime

[scarlet ledge]

i got 51 6★ doing that

[storm current]

I mean

[scarlet ledge]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Who

[proud drift]

idk

[storm current]

Im not sure if i would even use dorothy if i get her

[proud drift]

some chinchilla who can't see

[scarlet ledge]

smh

gib her then

[proud drift]

E2 her and 300% zoom on her thighs

[scarlet ledge]

i aant doro

[proud drift]

for home screen

[scarlet ledge]

i plan to m9 her

[opal kiln]

No one in EN will

and yet everyone is complaining

[storm current]

People want dorothy

But dont want to use dorothy

Quite funnu

[proud drift]

to me it's just funny how delayed she's getting

if I ever get W I might consider trapknights

[scarlet fulcrum]

I only want aa mod from the event patch

[alpine kite]

this tbh

[iron brook]

so the usual problem i encounter at about 382 with this set up is

i need someone to either help or replace Thorns

been trying Mudrock....not quite working but that could be for other mistakes i've made

[storm current]

actually

why not blaze top

thorns on saria tile

mudrock behind thorns

and saria on blaze spot

[iron brook]

you make several valid points @storm current

small problem though

if Thorns and Mudrock are right beside each other next to box

does only Thorns get the bubble? wont they both be hit by casters?

[storm current]

your goal is deploying blaze last

so she will be the main target

mudrock with melee corrosion heal 50 should be able to deal with the high tides

her main purpose is blocking the boat docker at the later waves

so you can deploy her late

[iron brook]

another question

should i leave Saria on s3?

[storm current]

i think you can do s1 for afk

or even s2

[iron brook]

facing down or right?

[storm current]

right

but down should work

her main purpose is to intercept the sniper in order for the civilian boats to survive

[proud drift]

What are the killgates for dh-9

I tried making a scuffed speedrun and last 2 casters felt like they took forever to come out

No silverash fucks me anyways

[scarlet fulcrum]

First 4 casters in their boat form

U need to improve ur time on that and last 2 casters technically

[sullen granite]

How do you deal with these two enemy types?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Easy way borrow chalter

[signal granite]

With Gramophone

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats abandoned mine daily

[signal granite]

I see

Oh ya that big bob

[sullen granite]

Perhaps I'm in over my head here? None of my ops did substantial damage to them, my roster is possibly too weak for this RN

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can also aim for max reward r4 by leaking bob or mud, if u smh fairly new

[livid delta]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qK4y1H7Xe/

[signal granite]

This stage ask you understand buff and debuff like Patriot stage

[sullen granite]

Are these guides?

[livid delta]

no, just an example of one person clearing it

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/t39_RnDN7U0

There is also r7, but nvm

[livid delta]

e1 55 might be asking a lot

you can also just skip it

[scarlet fulcrum]

They need to show their roster atleast

[livid delta]

no reason to farm tokens after getting scene tbh

[sullen granite]

You want to see my roster?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure go ahead 1 page enough

[proud drift]

Well, I don’t have silverash so I basically can’t spawnkill them

[sullen granite]

Thanks for the link

[scarlet fulcrum]

Surtr also notbad

[sullen granite]

Thanks for the link

[proud drift]

Well, I’ll keep my current auto of myrtle chetto fia warfarin poze surtr

Surtr kills only two sadly

[scarlet fulcrum]

Surtr can kill first 4

[sullen granite]

I see from the video thumbnail you sent I can clear with my current ops with some more investment in them, so that's good

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats good enough lv to mimic the vid

[livid delta]

how many stickers did you guys farm

[proud drift]

Ya but not at the same time like sash

[scarlet fulcrum]

copy pasta cant be that bad

[sullen granite]

With some substitutions I presume; I for example still have spot at level 1

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah still few sec

[scarlet fulcrum]

Spot e1 lv1 enough, also good for base

Cuora s2 better

[sullen granite]

Yeh, was thinking of using Cuora. By level 1 I mean unpromoted

[scarlet fulcrum]

Elite 1 lv1 slv4 atleast

[sullen granite]

I'll make sure my E1 level 40 Cuora has skill level 4, sure

Though I suppose I could just use spot, doesn't take that much resources for him

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah e1 for base

[proud drift]

Pancho boat is also a killgate for last 2 casters

No?

[scarlet fulcrum]

No

[proud drift]

So they just take a bit to come out

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah exactly

[proud drift]

I need to try one more thing

Maybe guardmiya will give fia just enough dps

To kill pancho before leaving her range

[scarlet fulcrum]

Borrow someone, even chalter e1 help, tequila, shamare,specter etc this is just r4

If u have deepcolor bring her for meatshield summon, e0 fine

[sullen granite]

What is r4?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Risk 4, lv of contract combination u picked

[proud drift]

Lmao killed pancho before casters came out

Guardmiya and better thrm timing gave JUST enough dps

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah thats better

[proud drift]

If warf was m3 tho I’d 100% get a banger timer

[storm current]

If you have archetto

Why not use her to kill first 4 caster

[proud drift]

She dies

I let fia do it instead

Poze kills boats

She survives a big burly man with a boat ramming her

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1081890936021319750/Screenshot_20230305_174734_Arknights.jpg

[scarlet fulcrum]

The bounce do wonder for her

[proud drift]

Cantabile is cheating

[storm current]

But

I used 4 ops in the end

Also cantabile is unneccessary

[proud drift]

Oh right

[storm current]

Even gravel work

[proud drift]

Eyja S3 moment

Well

My setup doesn’t have enough dp to speedrun THAT fast

[elder flume]

Therm ex best tank bait

[storm current]

Eh

4 initial dp is enough for me

[proud drift]

Atm I do myrtle archetto fia warfarin pozemka thrm guardmiya surtr

[storm current]

[proud drift]

• place 5 float tiles total

[storm current]

Not trust farming

[proud drift]

Well ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah personally i dont have anyone to trust farm this time

[proud drift]

I ain’t gonna bother minmaxing trust farming like 3000 trust

[cyan gorge]

Meanwhile me doing Horn Pozy Irene 3 op

[scarlet fulcrum]

100 trust more than enough

Unless u have 3 slots for support and value it then sure

[proud drift]

I mean if I get a new op I’m gonna use I just put them in base

And a few days I have them on 100%

[scarlet fulcrum]

Same

[proud drift]

And most of my “to-use” ops are trusted already cuz I had them in base the moment I got them

And/or base slavery

[cyan gorge]

I just like the satisfaction of 200

[proud drift]

I ain’t gonna trustfarm shit I don’t use like idk

Absinthe, minimalist, corroserum

Etc.

They can stay at 0%

[waxen swan]

Weak

[proud drift]

Minimalist actually higher cuz base slave

[scarlet fulcrum]

I have all my ops at 200% by now, but like 100% more than enough for most ppl. Eventually they will reach 200%

🐌 but sure

[waxen swan]

Do you guys forget that they will do something with trust in the future

[scarlet fulcrum]

They did

[signal granite]

Trust in future? What else can trust use outside of operator page and lend better stat to friend

[scarlet fulcrum]

Module, paradox. But barely matter if mod no that good

Also u can ignore latter

[neat skiff]

Chapter 11 mechanic.

[signal granite]

Ch11, may i know it do what in basic?

[neat skiff]

Makes me curious what wacky mechanic CH 12 will have.

Not CH 11. I'm trying to find the event. Give me a bit.

Seems I'm going crazy.

Could have sworn there was an event that interacted with an operators trust level. However the words "arknights" and "trust" are packed to the brim with results that do not help me at all.

[signal granite]

it is fine, i just pre-farm more trust and wait it come

[molten swan]

if there was sth related to trust that alters gameplay more than 100%/200% people would be talking about it nonstop when ch11 dropped

[opal kiln]

Probably this

[signal granite]

so is gain more trust, no use trust do something, thanks for information

[scarlet fulcrum]

i hope atleast they add "good" reward related to it

[main halo]

Weakest rarity abuser

[paper ember]

is there any way to know the defense of the enemies in SSS mode?

[elder flume]

https://map.ark-nights.com/areas?category=tower

[topaz knoll]

any tips for DH-MO-1? I've done it like 3-4 times now and I always mess up at ~380

[gleaming lodge]

What is your setup ?
Your squad ?
What leaks ?
Why ?

[elder flume]

For an unplanned run thats not bad

Myrtle handles bottom except for 1 enemy leak in the 150

Cant mod3 mostima within 2 days so im putting this off until shes there

[lethal dragon]

Lol truly weak I see 3 5 stars

[topaz knoll]

might be skill issue

[lethal dragon]

That's one hell of a setup

[topaz knoll]

gonna give it a go again later

[lethal dragon]

No non nono

One min

[scarlet ledge]

bruh

that setup

[lethal dragon]

Do you have lappland

[topaz knoll]

she's raised yes

[lethal dragon]

Nice

Ok so

[lethal dragon]

1. Replace gummy with Mudrock and put her one tile ahead
2. Replace ptilopsis with eyja
3. Replace warf with GG
4. Replace Texas with Lapp and one tile behind
5. Put lumen on the tile where baggies flag is
6. Put a defender where mudrock is but one tile behind
7. And in the same line put a defender or an aoe guard like specter if you have
8. Put warf on the tile in the leftmost corner to heal the aoe guard or defender

[topaz knoll]

for 7 I have specter but i also have galter

[lethal dragon]

Oh much better

[topaz knoll]

so aoe guard behind the defender?

[lethal dragon]

Nah just aoe gaurd

GG will help

[topaz knoll]

wait trying to visualize where they'd go

[lethal dragon]

Here

Gavial here

Replace warf with GG

[topaz knoll]

i assume lapp will be facing to the right then

[lethal dragon]

Yeah she can help

Make sure to deploy you normal defender last

You can deploy mudrock here too

[glass monolith]

It feels so dumb when i gain progress toward farm materials only on LAST day of event

[lethal dragon]

Man look at this

F2p life

[glass monolith]

Fight me

[lethal dragon]

Whel

Oh wait

Oh nonono

[glass monolith]

(check date)

[gray stone]

50 remaining what the fuck

[glass monolith]

It was my progress on original DH run event end

[gray stone]

lmao

[glass monolith]

Back in my day schedule swapping wasn't as fucked

At least we didn't had shit like event which took place after CC9 in CN still not on global AFTER CC10

[glass monolith]

At least you scored above 398 like me for 14 hours in row

[lethal dragon]

Oof

[topaz knoll]

wd ex 8 cm was a lot easier than this

[lethal dragon]

Bruh

[topaz knoll]

in every event I've done this is the only thing that's been a pain

[brittle sigil]

the boats and casters are relentless

unlucky gamer

[lethal dragon]

Ugh where did it go wrong

Who died

[brittle sigil]

^

@topaz knoll can you send your entire roster?

[topaz knoll]

galter to the boat

[brittle sigil]

just to have an idea for how you can switch it up.

[topaz knoll]

everything was fine then she got one shot for some reason

[topaz knoll]

[smoky crescent]

bring lapp in to silence those

[brittle sigil]

I already see your SA can be placed somewhere else

[brittle sigil]

does everyone leak or?

[topaz knoll]

I do have lapp 😭

[topaz knoll]

nope

[brittle sigil]

cause SA in the tile above Mudrock’s original tile will help him hit all lanes

[topaz knoll]

just the top boat at ~399

[brittle sigil]

understood

do you use support units? in that case which one?

[topaz knoll]

i didn't use a support nope

[smoky crescent]

helidrop silverash last wave?

[brittle sigil]

id recommend you doing it if you still struggle, but let me just look at your setup once again

[brittle sigil]

.

@topaz knoll let me go on pc to use stageplanner to propose an alternative setup

[topaz knoll]

that'd be appreciated

[brittle sigil]

just to clarify, your current set up usually always guarantees every lane except top, correct?

[frigid kite]

Which lane leaks?

[brittle sigil]

they said top lane

so honestly a helidrop would work

[frigid kite]

Why does it leak

[brittle sigil]

considering they’ve dealt w most of the wave either way

[brittle sigil]

im assuming they have SA / Spot for top lane

so…

[frigid kite]

Hmmm

Idk if spot survives the hit

[brittle sigil]

just need a defender that can stall while helidrop does the job

[brittle sigil]

neither do i, barely use him

I saw that they have Kal, but she’s not exactly a necessity

let me see what I can cook up

[frigid kite]

She can solo last top wave

But Monster needs 1 bubble

Or the no asp reduced ticket

[brittle sigil]

yeah I’m aware, im just thinking about the 2 op slot she takes

[frigid kite]

Both spot + silverash

[topaz knoll]

yeah

[frigid kite]

So, what's the issue

[brittle sigil]

setting up rn give me a sec

[topaz knoll]

the boat guy at top at ~399

[frigid kite]

Spot dies?

Or whatever is tanking

[topaz knoll]

one shots the op i have there

yeah

[frigid kite]

Guessed

Ok

[topaz knoll]

but normally the op can tank it so

[frigid kite]

Have you thought about using kalsit?

[topaz knoll]

not yet

[frigid kite]

Think about it

[brittle sigil]

@topaz knoll could try something like this, but im unsure due to your op levels and masteries

kal s3 should deal with boats just fine

if not then SA there to help

and his SA reaches all tiles

so in the case that either mud or gav somehow struggle, you shing shing

[frigid kite]

Give monster 1 bubble btw

[brittle sigil]

give all defenders bubbles

[topaz knoll]

everyone has their relevant skill/s m3'd so should be okay

[brittle sigil]

and have guards without the aspd penalty

[brittle sigil]

yeah try this then

[topaz knoll]

hmm

[brittle sigil]

be aware SA might die throughout the stage

[lethal dragon]

Oof you could use her s3

[topaz knoll]

maybe I could just have ptilo facing up since mud is unhealable