strategy

[spark sinew]

just don't leak anything

[mossy chasm]

Oh, is it just auto deploy that is locked out with borrowing?

[spark sinew]

yeah

[vernal lion]

yea, especially in CM

[mossy chasm]

Ah

Nvm then lol, I didn't know that

[vernal lion]

you can just make the job done and skip it 4ever

EX stage didn't give anything else beside the for the first time you beat it

[radiant plinth]

Bruh why there another 6* limited fast redeploy

My money

[latent monolith]

Just do orundumb farm, not like you're using rocks or lmd for anything else

[signal granite]

hope those banner wont eat so much pulls (unless you decide to pull for pots)

[glass monolith]

2 out of 5 6* limited in year are fast redeploys, what the fuck

[signal granite]

dont forget Spalter also "fast-redeploy"

[radiant plinth]

thats the point

i play e0

[frigid kite]

120 pulls for limited

[radiant plinth]

fast redeploy pot6 are out lifeblood

we need p6

[frigid kite]

And they give 20 free pulls

[radiant plinth]

we might just sacrifice our yellow cert stash again

[frigid kite]

So at least 100 pulls need to be saved

[radiant plinth]

540/token

[signal granite]

100 = 60000 , pain;
also after 2 limited, more pain

[frigid kite]

It should be 4~5 months after texalter I guess

[modern plover]

2 more months then cn has another limited

[frigid kite]

1 month = at least 20 pulls from free Orundum

Now i cluding the hhs

I guess no reedic for me yet

1 waifu sacrificed for another waifu

[signal granite]

Sexas 01 Nov 2022,
Chong Yue 17 Jan 2023,
Yato and Noir 7 March 2023,
ya, all 2 months gate

[weak skiff]

guys should i build chen

i got her from recruitment

[frigid kite]

Chalter?

Ah

[weak skiff]

no guard

[frigid kite]

What else do you have

That you can level

[weak skiff]

6*?

bc i got a lot of unbuilt ones

i got pallas, hellagur, zumama, hoshi, flametail, carnelian, aak, spalter, fiammetta, glaadia

eyja, silverash, lumen

lemme check if i have more

wait with silverash, eyja, and spalter, i meant i havent mastered them yet i hve them e2

so ignore those 3

[frigid kite]

SA and Spalter are better options, SA S3 is a direct E2 notable upgrade, specially if you are still new, Spalter is pretty good with Module (and she also can be used with Gladiia later when you also level her), Eyja S3 same as SA but you can still use her S2 because it's pretty useful, Flametail is a really good vanguard with E2 since her S3 give her the fast sp cycle + dmg and Lumen has some nice healing with S3 if you still haven't got any good medics

Then either Flametail (if you feel like lacking a vanguard), Lumen if healer and Fiametta if AoE, Eunectes mecha from S3 is a good way of dps + tank any boss but she isn't the best option out there, only after you built a full team already, Aak the same because he is mostly a buffer and you can use Eyjafjalla instead of carnelian Pallas and Hellagur are pretty much niche and usable if you like then or no, Hoshi is a pretty good wall for when needed

If you want more feedback check #help because this shouldn't be done here

[weak skiff]

yea my bad, tysm tho, ill try to prioritize fiammetta

[rapid oracle]

Placements good?

[molten swan]

works

top might have problems with piercing boats

[lethal dragon]

Chalter placement is bruh moment

[frigid kite]

Kalsit and Chalter a bit weird tho

[lethal dragon]

^^

[frigid kite]

Kalsit is going to get hit from casters

And Chalter isn't hitting anyone 💀

[lethal dragon]

Chalter in front of thorns
Kaktsit in place of chalter
Monster one til ahead

And pray for kal to heal chalter

[molten swan]

kaltsit doesnt need to heal the fat cat

chalter placement is uh cringe as hell

[rapid oracle]

had to restart cuz one mf leak, gonna have to take y'all suggestions

[frigid kite]

Gl

[lethal dragon]

Can do this
Replace w with any healer
Put kaktsit where w is and monst3r where blaze is

Then chalter in front of thorns

New medic in current place of chalter

And blaze one tile ahead of current monster place

Kaktsit S2 works great

[gray stone]

Better pray for Kal to be alive

[rapid oracle]

?????

Nvm I'm dumb, next to Mont3r?

[signal granite]

below and 1 tile right of Chalter if you follow above

[frigid kite]

Should be

[lethal dragon]

I don't remember Ng having range extension module

Better off using someone like berry or warfarin

[signal granite]

Ng have range extend mod

[lethal dragon]

Oh

[rapid oracle]

oh ffs

Mos3tr has to deal with 3 casters while the big dude just walking off

[frigid kite]

Try with S3

If it still doesn't work, try with monster bot on the red dot place and Blaze up with W

Just put kalsit on the healer place and Chalter on mid

And pray

[rapid oracle]

wow no Fia support that isnt an S3M3

gonna have to bring NTR just to deal with the 3 casters that Monster is having a hard time killing

[molten swan]

use s2

boats have barely any defense so mon3tr isn't that necessary

chalter can pierce the boat so mon3tr's job is just too filter out decently tanky mobs

[elder flume]

i might just do mint tank

i feel like hellagur will die eventually

[lethal dragon]

Borrow GG s2 then and swap her with skalter

[cyan gorge]

Need S2M3 Fia?

[rapid oracle]

yes please

[molten swan]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

she just one taps everything that’s not in a boat

[lethal dragon]

M3?

[neat skiff]

Ooh, Weedy and Enforcer modules have the SP cost "C" in them. Pog.

[molten swan]

M3

+200 atk sniper supporter

she effectively gets +500 atk~ish

that doubles and stuff into over double the damage on a red boat

so much for "physical sucks for dh"

[neat skiff]

Those red boats have 1200 def and 0 res.

Then the anni is one of the very few stages where that 1200 isn't boosted.

[opal kiln]

isn't it DP

[neat skiff]

Oh right, it is DP. I'm a derp. SP charge is the lightning bolt.

[opal kiln]

2 DP per tile shifted

[molten swan]

"first deployment costs -2 less dp"

"pot simulator guys!!!!!"

[neat skiff]

If the talents are buffed and there are no additions.
Shaw = more RES
FEater = more phys dodge
Enforcer = more DEF ignore on heavy unit
Weedy = anyones guess.

Weedy could have a longer lasting water cannon, a stronger push force water cannon, or more SP if the cannon is close to her.

I sincerely doubt the devs would give us push force 5.

[gray stone]

Consider this is Chalter we are talking about

And with +200 ATK sticker

[proud drift]

I have M9

[scarlet ledge]

whel

[elder flume]

Tanky mint

S2 sash survives bottom alone

[foggy grove]

walmart ⛰️

[lethal dragon]

She looks so cute

But I don't have resources to e2 her

[hidden needle]

any raccomendations?

[lapis hornet]

this event really favors chalter if you're looking for a borrow

there's a lot of dockers coming from the middle and she'll nuke them all

[frigid kite]

For normal most of dockers will die because of the high tide

CM you have to kill everything yourself

[hidden needle]

i havent even gotten to the Dockers yet

[tranquil saddle]

Hey! What app/website is thst you using ??

[lapis hornet]

mapark, check the pins for link

[elder flume]

https://map.ark-nights.com/

[tranquil saddle]

Thabks a lot !

[tidal sedge]

How do I do this
6-11

[lethal dragon]

Borrow phantom

[glass monolith]

Drop someone to attack casters, drop someone to be sacrificial gravel to casters

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

[tidal sedge]

Oh I forgot about Gravel..
Alright

[glass monolith]

Don't worry, game will have alot Gravel checks

Because it is physically impossible to not have her if you do recruits. And based on 1-7. If something is guaranteed, we need 5 time more of it

[sharp swallow]

I have no idea how to counter the drones in “The Heart, Fickle and Impermanent”

Poze e2 is the only way I know

[lethal dragon]

GG s3

Golden glow

[sharp swallow]

I don’t have Goldenglow

[tidal sedge]

Phantom is so ridiculous
Easy clear

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[lethal dragon]

Don't wanna borrow?

[sharp swallow]

I don’t typically borrow because I always think I’ll play it again later

But frankly it’s too insane not to at this point so I just might

[supple widget]

Need tips? Trying to complete vigna's mod mission preferably without borrow so I can farm grindstones as well

Requires my own vigna to kill 8 things which shouldn't be too tough on its on but 3 stars it's getting difficult for me

[burnt pine]

i don't think that is the right mission for farming but u can always resort to kyo's guide using shaw

what is vigna mission ?

[burnt pine]

she is strong enough she can melt things with her S2

[scarlet ledge]

just spawncamp it using vigna

[burnt pine]

just make her a frontliner and at her back a defender or something

[scarlet ledge]

hi abd

[lethal dragon]

Hiii

[scarlet ledge]

abd im still kazeless

28 pulls

1 5★

[lethal dragon]

Oof

[scarlet ledge]

i hate 5★

fucking annoying to get

[sharp swallow]

I just used Godenglow and she’s a hard ass carry holy guacamole and cheese

[burnt pine]

hunting 5* i hope ur get her

[lethal dragon]

Me with no quercus on GG banner

[scarlet ledge]

ye an dhope my pity wont trigger

or ill cope

[glass monolith]

I want to point at some 5* i want but miss too but... I think i have better luck with that

[astral oyster]

are there fool proof DH-S-4 guides? my defender are too low lvl to tank the last waves on the solo lane

its my last CM to medal

[scarlet ledge]

what ur defender?

just curious

two is enough with two dps ranged

[astral oyster]

an unhealable one

[scarlet ledge]

u might need to grab kal for boat

show ur ops e2s @astral oyster

[scarlet ledge]

ok u have chalter

middle should be easy

u can max lvl ur cuora?

e1 max

[astral oyster]

no LMD atm

[scarlet ledge]

so u have solid defender

[scarlet ledge]

dies

lemme think

wait what ur medic

[astral oyster]

all e1 have lvl 7 skill except perfumer i forgot to upgrade her skill

[scarlet ledge]

middle should be enough

use sa blocking with nearl

use chalrer skill for waves

grab kal support for boats

at bottom

ptilo healing sa and nearl

mudrock for emergency defender if nealr died

[astral oyster]

ticket recommendations? i have all of them

[scarlet ledge]

wait

bubble devixe 3

guard def+

ranged atk+

defender should be placed on high tide

last one choose whateves

[scarlet ledge]

ye

be careful on bottom

cause fucking exploding boats

[astral oyster]

ill try later after i have stamina i wasted too many stamina on all CM

[scarlet ledge]

u need to time ur chalter s3

for last sailor waves

[astral oyster]

i typically have no problem for mid im just malding the boat wave on btm lane

[scarlet ledge]

grab kal @astral oyster

kal can handle it

[astral oyster]

both of the boats?

[scarlet ledge]

yes just time the skill

[astral oyster]

ill try later thx for suggestion

[scarlet ledge]

@astral oyster

[worthy ermine]

@burnt pine

[scarlet ledge]

u have myrtle so getting dp is ez

to setup

[astral oyster]

Just to check monster can be healed notmally right?

[fresh copper]

Only by Kal herself

[glass monolith]

Also list of regen sources which Wish don't have outside of Heidi but who on earth play Heidi while doing low ops welfare

[small gorge]

Which 6* should I upgrade next, aiming for best flexible and common use in squads, general purpose?

I already have Mudrock for lane-holding, so not Mountain? Perhaps Suzuran, Lee or Mostima for stalling? Gladii is also tempting though, isn't there a CC map coming back where she will be uber good? Perhaps Irene for SSS? Don't have dmg dealers other than GoldenGlow for it.

[burnt pine]

yeah we need some adjustment to this squad

[worthy ermine]

i dont have much to do with

[burnt pine]

which stage do u want to do ?

[worthy ermine]

2

[crystal thistle]

mountain is still really good

[scarlet ledge]

ohoho 2

cm or no?

[cyan gorge]

Mountain or Irene

[worthy ermine]

what's cm

[small gorge]

Saw a clear for DH-MO-1 where he performed smoothly, perhaps not a bad idea after all, thanks!

[burnt pine]

wait me a sec cauz i m opening the game

[scarlet ledge]

wait wrong person kek

[glass monolith]

Ah yes DH-2 CM

[scarlet ledge]

i though jm on diff ak server

been swiching alot

[crystal thistle]

to start off you need 3 to 4 defenders minimum for this event

[scarlet ledge]

answerin shit

💀

[burnt pine]

k then gl hf i guess

[scarlet ledge]

imagine not raising defender

[worthy ermine]

my only other defender is the 2* 💀

[scarlet ledge]

[crystal thistle]

yah u still need him even if you have mudrock

[burnt pine]

noire corne is actually good

better than matterhorn at least

that is why i told u u need some adjustment

[worthy ermine]

alright

[crystal thistle]

yeah lvl up him as well your goal is to lvl up evenly until elite 1 then u need 4 star elite 2 asap to push this event so that u can have 6 star e2 lvl 90 friend unit

[burnt pine]

oh i know why u got stuck at dh 2

[small gorge]

aight Mountain it is then 🙂 definitely enjoying the idea of a tanky lane-holder that also can be healed in a traditional way. Sometimes sweating a bit with Mudrock there, seeing her HP drop.

[worthy ermine]

maybe because i started the game a few hours ago

[scarlet ledge]

💀

prio main story first

lvl there

[worthy ermine]

main story wont go away

event will

[burnt pine]

u need to push story asap to get enough lmd for at least e1 characters

[scarlet ledge]

then come back when u can do it

[burnt pine]

but u have to know which characters to invest on

[scarlet ledge]

or u gonna be stuck there on dh-2

[glass monolith]

Free EXP and LMD won't come if you don't build base

[scarlet ledge]

if u odnt progress

[worthy ermine]

ill keep farming dh-1 and get stickers till i can buy the headhunter ticket

true

[burnt pine]

no

u need exp and lmd

leave that later on

[glass monolith]

Let me quickly check

[worthy ermine]

im already at 174 currency

[glass monolith]

420 for headhunter ticket
for that you can get 110k LMD or mix it with EXP cards

[burnt pine]

k now for the team u gotta throw away earthspirit matt red vigna and perfumer

[crystal thistle]

yeah dont prio ticket

[glass monolith]

Later you will be gaining 5 pulls weekly from existing
While 110k LMD or mix it with EXP is almost 2 days of base production

[burnt pine]

the strategy is heavily relying on ranged tile baits

[scarlet ledge]

ngl ill go to main story until i e1 my ops

then go back to dh

[burnt pine]

yeah for a new player it will be better but i don't think e1 is needed until maybe dh 5

[crystal thistle]

yeah dont torture urself for dosolles for now play it when 1 or 2 days remaining left

[scarlet ledge]

bur new player get thrown into mechanics

what chapter they are on main?

[worthy ermine]

red and perfumer are too vital

perfumer especially

[cyan gorge]

I'm 8 months in and DH was still painful

[worthy ermine]

1-10 👍

i told you i literally started a few hours ago

[crystal thistle]

its your first account ?

[worthy ermine]

yes

im familiar with gacha games like this though

[crystal thistle]

i see farm mats first try to e1 one unit then burrow mountain he will help a lot

[burnt pine]

yeah it might be overwhelming to do the event without e1 at least then

[worthy ermine]

who should be my priority to e1

im assuming not the 6*?

[scarlet ledge]

show ur ops

3★ cheap

[crystal thistle]

just a 3 star defender for now

[scarlet ledge]

easy to e1

[burnt pine]

#strategy message

[worthy ermine]

i levelled courier amiya and noire

[crystal thistle]

beagle is decent he still have a lot of 3 and 4 stars missing

did u choose red on the selector

[worthy ermine]

beagle>noir?

[worthy ermine]

yes

i was told silence was meh late game

and to choose red

[crystal thistle]

yeah but more importantly u can use them both

[burnt pine]

u will be using beagle and noire TBH since u kinda need 2 lanehoders most of the time

[worthy ermine]

alright

[burnt pine]

u still don't have kroos yet ?

[worthy ermine]

if i do some pulls ill have more options to do with but i was told to save till myliner or something like that

[burnt pine]

i forgot from which mission u can get her

[crystal thistle]

ur defender is dying ? then just keep replacing them

[worthy ermine]

the British girl?

[crystal thistle]

u need to pull

youre super new u dont have any units lol

[worthy ermine]

i did 10 on the beginner

[burnt pine]

i think it is better to not pull

[crystal thistle]

mylanr is probably 2 months away minimum

[worthy ermine]

2 months??

[crystal thistle]

i dont thinks its a good experience to save for 2 months lol as a super new player

u can pull atleast 2x10 and see what happens

[worthy ermine]

yea but arent the current banners bad

[crystal thistle]

its not abouthat u need other 3 or 4 stars

[worthy ermine]

too complicated for me

[crystal thistle]

every event will be a torture for you

[worthy ermine]

is there a pity system in this game

[burnt pine]

nah u can get from recruit without premium currency
in todays pace it is better to save for limiteds even mlynar better to not go for

[crystal thistle]

yeah every 50 pulls your chance is increase by 2 percent per single pull for 6 stars

[burnt pine]

the anni schedules are fixed 2 months from now should be the next anni
although it is bad to not pull for this long period it is super advised to do so sadly

[worthy ermine]

which banner do i pull on then

also i should save the gold thingy right

or do i convert them to premium currency

[crystal thistle]

convert it

[burnt pine]

name ?

?

[worthy ermine]

yea

[crystal thistle]

u talking about originite prime right just convert it but not the yellow certificate

[cyan gorge]

Or just throw caution to the wind and do some pulls on a standard you think looks interesting

[worthy ermine]

what's a yellow certificate

[crystal thistle]

somethings u get when u got dupes no need to concern about it for now

[burnt pine]

one of the scarcest currency in the game

[worthy ermine]

distinction certificate?

[crystal thistle]

yeah u can buy heroes straight up

[worthy ermine]

alright so

do i pull on starter or standard

[glass monolith]

i think i made like 600-700 of it from 14 month of playing

[cyan gorge]

Starter

[burnt pine]

nothing

[burnt pine]

he already did 10

[crystal thistle]

starter is decent u can only bought it for the last time tho

[worthy ermine]

bro

do i pull or do i not

[crystal thistle]

starter have 2x10

[worthy ermine]

(+1)

[cyan gorge]

I would just do the second starter pulls

[worthy ermine]

i can do one 10pull on the standard and get a 5*

[cyan gorge]

this current standard isn't that good for a newer player

I'd pass on it

[burnt pine]

if u want to maximize ur chances to get the next broken characters u shouldn't
if u don't care then i dunno do whatever u like

[worthy ermine]

ill save then

[glass monolith]

most 5*s in this game is too niche to get value on regular basis

[worthy ermine]

also if i set the timer on 7:40 i should get a 5* right

or is it random

[crystal thistle]

never actually but yes have a slim chance

[burnt pine]

very low chance less than 0.5%

[crystal thistle]

actually the best way to do is not save for mylnar

[cyan gorge]

3* pot and 4*s are good to get this early tho

[worthy ermine]

[crystal thistle]

it is to go all in in the next banner after this one but im not gonna telll who it is because i cant on this doscord

[glass monolith]

7:40 means you will get at least 3*. Some tags yield guaranteed 4\5 if they dont drop. Senior/Top tag give guaranteed 5\6 if you set 9:00.
9:00 with tag means less chance of it droping

[crystal thistle]

mylanr is not limited anyways

[burnt pine]

u just need to know some famous tag combinations that u have to set them at 9 on sight

[cyan gorge]

vanguard + healing is one of those combos

[worthy ermine]

i should just set everything on 9

true

[glass monolith]

7:40 if no tags as you gain nothing from 9 and it will cost more LMD for no reason

[burnt pine]

most of the time u will be using tagless 7 40 sadly

[crystal thistle]

only 9 if you can pair the first bracket to the yellow ones

[burnt pine]

i might have skipped couple 5* here and there then

[glass monolith]

Number of times i skipped Survival + Ranged/Sniper is probably double digit

[tidal sedge]

hi, is this the appropriate channel to ask for advice on who to build? I'm a new player

[quiet geyser]

tips on the last ex stage for the rerun event?

is it possilble to just run the boss down as he spwans in?

[supple mountain]

#help might be better

[cyan gorge]

Just surtr the boss

[quiet geyser]

which tile exactly?

[cyan gorge]

I put her on the very bottom right tile on a raft

[tidal sedge]

people on the help channel sent me here

damn this server confusing af

[supple mountain]

wtf

[fair pasture]

Check channel pins, they prob sent you if you are struggling with a particular stage

[cyan gorge]

You come here for advice on specific stages

[supple mountain]

[cyan gorge]

For general game mechanics, #help is where you should be going

[lethal dragon]

First phase or 2nd?

[quiet geyser]

first

[lethal dragon]

Smth like this can work

He will go straight in the left so you can delay the deployment if you want

[quartz merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/983695186095910912.gif?quality=lossless

[lethal dragon]

Oh dear

[lethal dragon]

Love how this boss hits like wet noodles

[glass monolith]

It has level? The fuck?

[livid delta]

Yeah it's level 8

[elder flume]

Everything has stats

[fresh copper]

How bad can DH-S-4 possibly be as I'm going into it blind?

[livid delta]

Pretty hard

I think it's hard enough with my eyes open

I can't imagine doing it with them closed

[fresh copper]

Is it worse than DH-S-2?

[livid delta]

I'm kidding I don't actually know cause I haven't been playing

[fresh copper]

Ok so basically just bash my head against a wall until I find a solution got it

[cyan gorge]

S-4 was easier imo

but that's probably cause I did S-2 in a horribly inefficient way

[fresh copper]

Man summoners are bad in this event

3 block needed for dockworker boats and high tide straight up makes summons unusable

Not even Ling gets too far

[supple mountain]

can i sub out ethan for mizuki in anni 14

[stiff coral]

Dont think so since ethan is aoe s1 dot

[supple mountain]

so then mizuki + someone else to sub him

like uh mizuki + bp?

or thorns maybe

[fresh copper]

Shirayuki and Podenco?

[supple mountain]

i have none of those dudes raised

[fresh copper]

Arts dot on their skills

[supple mountain]

[stiff coral]

Podenco skill/pudding

That or aosta

[fresh copper]

Speaking of Pudding

[supple mountain]

don't have aosta raised

pudding is e1 is that enough

[stiff coral]

Tbh just get ethan at e1

And done

[livid delta]

Don't you just need e1 aosta

[supple mountain]

i don't have an ethan yet and never will

[supple mountain]

bro he's e0 level 1

[fresh copper]

Where is my promised Astgenne and AA sniper mod for Kroos2

[livid delta]

Don't you just need e1 aosta

[edgy thicket]

surtr is red , chalter is blue , eya or ifrit is orange , mud is black

what skill should i use for surtr , should i use eya in that position or ifrit (i have eya e2 but ifrit is e1 ) ? also should i change the healing def with mud or i keep it for extra heals for fia ? , i do have poz e2 as well if there is a good position for it

[cyan gorge]

just E1 him

[supple mountain]

no

[livid delta]

Can't you just e1 aosta

[supple mountain]

i'm poor

and i need to e2 shalem first

and corro

[supple mountain]

what

[stiff coral]

[fresh copper]

I almost believed that was 4 star only until I saw Fiammeta

[supple mountain]

kid named amiya

[edgy thicket]

she is a borrow so tech is low end

[fresh copper]

Close enough

[edgy thicket]

any advice ?

[supple mountain]

isn't s3 surtr main skill

[edgy thicket]

ye but isnt she gonna die if it

[cyan gorge]

Surt S2
you don't need extra heals for Fia if your medic is strong enough
use Ifrit in Lava's spot tbh

[edgy thicket]

my medic is suss e1lvl40

[cyan gorge]

should be fine I think

[edgy thicket]

@cyan gorge should my ifrit be on the right or the left cuz im gonna use ifrit and with chalter besides her

[cyan gorge]

right facing down

[edgy thicket]

aight ty

[lethal dragon]

😭 ???

[lapis hornet]

no

[fresh copper]

Really? They throw a dockworker boat on the bottom lane?

Dick move HG

[lethal dragon]

I block near the blue box

Spawn camping isn't really a good idea

Don't mind the chalter

[fresh copper]

I ain't rarity abusing unless it's an emergency

[lethal dragon]

No

It's revenge

It's my anger

I have been harbouring for a whole year

This clear is huge overkill

Just monster is enough on left side

[glass monolith]

HE DIDNT KNEW

btw you will love CM condition

Damn i just realized I don't need myrtle to speedrun DH-9

god praise that chen pot 2

[lethal dragon]

No Chen 😭

I am suffering from not having eyja or SA

[frigid kite]

Same

But Mlynar will fix all my AoE needs

[glass monolith]

I don't really need mlynar, but i will just 'try' getting him

[frigid kite]

I really need him and I only can do 2 pity 💀

[glass monolith]

don't give me ling banner ptsd, i hit pity twice in row on that shit

[frigid kite]

[cyan gorge]

I have more aoe than I do ST damage

[glass monolith]

I have so much single target damage i don't need aoe

[lethal dragon]

I have skadi

[fresh copper]

I got too lazy

[glass monolith]

Now time for best CM of event

[proud drift]

wtf nice welfares

[fresh copper]

I'll think of a solution for this later

Mats first, flashy clears later

[rapid oracle]

What stage is that

[fresh copper]

DH-S-4 CM

[glass monolith]

Best part - That stage would be EZ AF if we had Astgenne

[fiery plume]

Needs more ling

[gleaming lodge]

You know this is a rerun right ?

It's already quite easier than when it first dropped

[astral oyster]

are there any reliable guide for dh-s-4 i dont have defender raised and tried using kalsit for boats didnt work

[gleaming lodge]

Simply because of elemental medics and modules

[glass monolith]

NL will shit be pain in the ass bitch of the event even on rerun

[gleaming lodge]

Defenders are pretty important in this event though

[glass monolith]

1600 DEF + 75% resist from everyone who doesn't block him + 3630 attack because fuck you

[gleaming lodge]

Wut ?
NL wasn't hard

[molten swan]

not using defenders are a death sentence on dh-s-4 cm

you basically almost resort yourself to chalter/passenger hard carry

[glass monolith]

Also heals

[gleaming lodge]

Are you talking about bloodknight ?

If you have enough DPS for the blades you can stall him very easily
Even 4* can do it

[glass monolith]

I can stall phase 1. Phase 2 is infinite ligma knives

EX-8 CM where those knives have 1k atk and if not push abuse we would be fucked by 7 knives piled up in same hallway as boss

[proud drift]

How different is his event version compared to the anni?

[glass monolith]

Anni had normal stage version

[gleaming lodge]

Anni versions of bosses are often weaker

[glass monolith]

EX and S versions adds extra fuck you

[gleaming lodge]

Though, the mechanics stay the same

I have the cringest roster and I didn't particularly struggle on NL, so worry not

[glass monolith]

In EX knives are super piled up and have attack buff
In S boss has extra DEF, also did i tell you about Viviana and Tola paying you a visit during phase 2?

[glass monolith]

My roster is 0 Arts damage dealers

[gleaming lodge]

Then build some ?

[proud drift]

I mean defenderknights u just throw a lot of medic defenders on a hoshiguma and pray she tanks the boss while ashlock slowly chips him?

[glass monolith]

I build indigo

[proud drift]

[gleaming lodge]

You're still a relatively new player from I can see

[glass monolith]

Boss has 75% resist from damage

[proud drift]

Are there even many dps defenders

[gleaming lodge]

So stop crying about EX-8 CM being impossible when, first, it isn't, and second, you're lacking a proper build

[gleaming lodge]

No ?
But the few that exist are good enough
And again, you can easily stall

[unique plume]

dh-mo-1 was so annoying... only way to clear was with support chalter and round 360 goldenglow

[proud drift]

what are there even back during NL that could handle the boss and dps him

like

eunectes ashlock blemi..?

oh mudmud ig

wait right mudmud being a defender makes it a lot better

[gleaming lodge]

https://youtu.be/T_pJbDAN_z8

[proud drift]

[gleaming lodge]

That's a Tums clear so it's always super tight

[molten swan]

kekw

[gleaming lodge]

But as you can see, it isn't that hard

[glass monolith]

CM condition blades 4 hit mudrock

[unique plume]

is it worth to e2 liskarm

oop mb wrong channel

[cyan gorge]

at the very least you just need a 3 block for the bottom lane on the final waves, the middle just needs a lot of aoe to compensate

that assumes you have good aoe and lane holders

like Thorns. Chalter, Blaze, etc

otherwise, defenders are mandatory

[molten swan]

it's not that bad

dh-s-4 only needs 2 blockers for archers

and some ranged unit that can kick ass onskill

passenger/chalter with stickers obliberates almost everything

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah well, Defknights cannot clear CM
But surely you understand the immense restriction that is defknights

[glass monolith]

Anyway, NL sucked for me as fifth event (after DH, vigilo, Grand chielf rerun, CC6)

and my amount of arts damage increased over year by Goldenglow

Anyway i will hole this bitch ass armor with Weedy and Ange combo and move on to farming sugar

[ancient hearth]

You probably need to think about your sticker setup. Or farm more for the missing ones.

I did it with Passenger and Pudding dealing with the final rush of dockworkers in the main lane, and Ebenholz + Kalsit to deal with the 2 red boats. You can probably substitute the latter two with an E2 Ling, those dragons are massive and can probably solo kill both red boats if it has the bubble shield on it.

[glass monolith]

You know who would be nice for DH-S-4? Astgenne!

[cyan gorge]

[astral oyster]

main lane i have no problem ragardless or strats its the btm 2 boats that give me headache

[cyan gorge]

slow + Surtr?

I can't imagine doing it without a 3 block

[ancient hearth]

With S3 active I'm pretty sure the block 4 dragon can kill the first boat, and at least stall the 2nd boat long enough for the water to recede so you can put some helidrops behind it to help

[astral oyster]

nvm blue woman and pink woman strat always works

[astral oyster]

dont have a good slow and dont have sutr

[radiant folio]

Is the /base guide on optimal base setup accurate?

[ancient hearth]

Just use Ling. Her big dragon is basically a mudrock.

That needs 2 deployment slots.

It will need the deployable bubble shield though so it won’t get affected by the attack speed down from the water

[glass monolith]

While fishing to improve my auto to almost absolute by accident discovered consistent way to cause boss to walk off boat on his own

[frigid kite]

Just ask him politely

[proud drift]

Mind I ask why pink doge facing left

[astral oyster]

the 2nd boat killed ling pet lizard i need that little extra dmg

[proud drift]

Don’t you get more dmg if it shoots directly in the tile in front of her

Or does the 2nd boat mean the middle one

(I haven’t done S stages yet but from what I see trouble was right side botes)

[astral oyster]

it clears the 2nd boat and the sailor cus my timing was off due to emulator lag

[proud drift]

Ya I get that but like

The part in the brackets

Also p.sure facing up or left would have the same range technically cuz both cover 3 tiles, one’s just more dps than the other

Well, you cleared it so it’s w/e

Just feel like it wouldn’t have been as close

[astral oyster]

but the tile i need to hit is top right of ling

[proud drift]

Ya so can you not place dwagon next to ling?

[astral oyster]

didnt though of that at the time

[proud drift]

On top of that I think if u place typewriter below poze under blue box face up it reaches there?

Ya, 4 tiles range

With S3 active

So you’d also have a mini-pinkdog shooting from below her

[rustic turret]

HELP DH-5 OR WHAT ???

[frigid kite]

Sure

[stiff coral]

The 5 lane hold

[frigid kite]

Where do you fail?

[rustic turret]

Um everything

Well actually

I cant keep up when they start ending the base at the bottom of the map

[frigid kite]

Would be nice if you share a pic of your strat

Unless you want a fresh clear idk

[rustic turret]

I don’t have a pic I usually start off putting two like umm before the base on the entrance above not below

And then like casters to kill faster

[frigid kite]

Alright

Gimme 2 mnts

[rustic turret]

Bro this is so hard

[frigid kite]

Try this

Hung as Spot

And Popukar as Midnight

[rustic turret]

Okay

Ty I’ll try

[frigid kite]

Gl

Send me a pic if you fail

[ashen axle]

Just dogpile on the blue box

The tide will kill all the big boys

[loud tendon]

how do I beat 3-8? the raid boss mows through my operators in spite of their above-standard levels and deployments on the def runes when possible

[frigid kite]

Just call them bosses, what's your strategy?

[astral oyster]

Normally stacking healers and cuora worked for me

[loud tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

"winding path to victory"

[frigid kite]

💀

[stiff coral]

This is the one to go strat tbh
Just need to also take care of the drone swarm bcuz 💀

[rustic turret]

Girl bye (idk why I put the numbers)

[ancient hearth]

Defense rune is bait. Let the boss circle the map while you kill his adds. Then stack medics on a defender when comes back to get into the blue box and have everybody unload on him.

[frigid kite]

So you won?

[rustic turret]

No

I keep losing at the 40’s

[frigid kite]

I see

Why

[rustic turret]

I don’t know

Wait

It’s probably cause the higher sea level wiping out my ranged operators

[loud tendon]

alright, though I couldn't imagine that would work with how much damage the raid boss does

[rustic turret]

Even the medics die too

[frigid kite]

Ah

Well that's sad

[rustic turret]

I’m so tired I’ll just do this thing later I just want tequila but I’m a noob

[loud tendon]

my problem with that is the few brutes at the end who steamroll through my melee operators

[proud drift]

I think it's less noob and more just

your units are extremely limited and weak

[loud tendon]

I'm starting to wonder if arknights might be p2w

[astral oyster]

Cuora skill makes her a lot more tanky than what you imagine

[rustic turret]

Idk what to change it to el oh el

[proud drift]

not at all

[stiff coral]

Not really its not

[loud tendon]

with the difficulty curve past 3-6

[proud drift]

arknights might be the most f2p friendly gacha of them all when it comes to how good welfares are

well

[ancient hearth]

Which is why you kill his buddies first and gang up on him and have a defender hold him while the entire team bursts him down. Or stall him with something like a Cuora until he is alone, he only gets big damage once below 60%

[proud drift]

most is an overstatement

[loud tendon]

I don't have cuora

[stiff coral]

Im f2p i'd say
The difficulty does increase but much easier after u also built your ops

[proud drift]

but arknights is definitely quite friendly to f2p players

[astral oyster]

bruh my guy u started to play and dont have anyone build and u expect to breeze through until chap 11?

[loud tendon]

that's what they said about guardian tales, but that wasn't true

[ancient hearth]

Have a bubble? Even beagle with the skill active will do.

[scarlet ledge]

hmm

[proud drift]

you can get the right units for beating most stages just by playing the game and saving yellow certificates for a specific shoperator

[loud tendon]

I can see what else I have

[scarlet ledge]

wjat stages?

[proud drift]

not to mention a lot of the hard content is clearable with 3* only or welfare only

[scarlet ledge]

and lvl ops

[frigid kite]

Try to get that sticker either from DH-1 or DH-4 @rustic turret

[astral oyster]

isnt it impossible on 3 stages only?

[proud drift]

@scarlet ledge as you can see mancer's case is a bit extreme

[stiff coral]

Once you get your first e2
You'll p much can borrow ppl meta ops and thats make going through story less painful

[scarlet ledge]

he should lvl his ops first

he gonnanhave trouble

plus ange?

[proud drift]

I'm not sure with how many and whatnot, but there are a few content creators who excel at beating content with a specific niche

[frigid kite]

Hmmm

[astral oyster]

ops to lvl 30/40 is good and cheap

[proud drift]

silvergun beats the game by using only 4* units

[loud tendon]

anyone build? not sure what that means but I have several 6 star operators, all at e1 level 40 at least

[frigid kite]

Have you leveled your 3*?

[proud drift]

I love Amiya beats a lot of hard content with 3* only

[scarlet ledge]

well dswopey

[proud drift]

there's a lot of welfareknights players who beat the content

[frigid kite]

Wait

[scarlet ledge]

player here have skill issue

[proud drift]

I know

[frigid kite]

@loud tendon gimme a minute

[scarlet ledge]

ofc plus thrown mechanics

[proud drift]

I'm just countering the p2w statement

[scarlet ledge]

ofc they gonnanhave overwhelmed

[proud drift]

arknights is very far from being p2w

[scarlet ledge]

on info

[loud tendon]

define a lot

[astral oyster]

it just test patience lots and lots of patience

[loud tendon]

and how many of those players were legitimate?

[proud drift]

@fresh copper

he's not a content creator

but he plays welfareknights

[astral oyster]

welfareknights is a niche playstyle that only use ops that are given out of the game for free and most is doable but E2 lvl 90

[proud drift]

and he clears majority of the content with welfare ops

[scarlet ledge]

ngl just e1 40 ur squad for less trouble

[astral oyster]

how would u define an illegitimate run?

[loud tendon]

that's exactly what I'm doing, hell I have gavial the invincible

[loud tendon]

pretty much use of cheats/hacks

[proud drift]

also do I count as a f2p or a p2w player - I buy only monthly cards and I've spent money on pulls for only one character, but I have majority of the meta ops without spending money for them

arknights doesn't have any

not that I'm aware of at least

it's quite hard to do that in this game I'd imagine

[astral oyster]

6* isnt a press to win button ling and chalter excluded

[proud drift]

ah so surtr included

[ancient hearth]

huh? there are youtubers who do this, and it's all replicable

[loud tendon]

not alone, but multiple should

[loud tendon]

video or it doesn't exist

[proud drift]

ok

[scarlet ledge]

ok this is getting dumb

[astral oyster]

ngl that sounds like whel mentality

[proud drift]

time to pull up the good ol' newbie helper

kyostin

[scarlet ledge]

we should go back to talking strat

[astral oyster]

i have multiple 6* ofc i can clear

[loud tendon]

you probably made that term up

[proud drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Oww8ImdvM

here you go

[ancient hearth]

As for 3-8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzbvFDmy3U8

[scarlet ledge]

dswopey

[proud drift]

you make an E2 4* unit

you borrow a powerful 6*

[loud tendon]

hold up, is that a 6 star I see?

[proud drift]

yes?

[scarlet ledge]

daowpey

[proud drift]

you can borrow a 6 star?

[loud tendon]

that's not low end then

[proud drift]

it is

you borrow one

[scarlet ledge]

show dr silver gun clear

or i love amiya

this is getting dumb

[loud tendon]

pretty sure 6 star is high end

[proud drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NGFEkbWGA

sure

this is a funny one in fact

6 ops with 4* only

AND no stickers

[ancient hearth]

You can literally borrow 1 of any unit in the game.

[proud drift]

a.k.a the free help that the event provides

[astral oyster]

1 6* isnt high end since you are guranteed one 6* from begginer pull

[scarlet ledge]

high end is full 6★ slot

[proud drift]

if you're still not convinced

then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryWWg8_qQEM

here's a no stickers

of 3* only

[ancient hearth]

You can have a team of 3 and 4 stars and beat pretty much all content with a 6 star carry. Which is the recommended thing for beginners trying events underleveled.

[proud drift]

well

dobermann included ig

[scarlet ledge]

well she is 3★ now

[astral oyster]

whel

[loud tendon]

still involves 6 star operators

[proud drift]

okay but

you can literally borrowo ne

FOR FREE

[loud tendon]

but then you can't auto deploy

[proud drift]

so how is involving a 6star a bad thing

you don't need to autodeploy 95% of the game

[loud tendon]

but it's useful for farming

[scarlet ledge]

high end squad is this

[proud drift]

you don't need to farm random stages

[astral oyster]

auto deploy only is useful when that stage is farming stage such as 1-7 actually the only farming stage

[proud drift]

there are specific stages that you can farm, yes

[ancient hearth]

the good farming stages are generally not boss stages

[proud drift]

you can work on those specific stages

and they're not hard either

[smoky crescent]

if its about EX stage, who the hell will farm at ex

[proud drift]

if you're not in chapter 9 or 10

[ancient hearth]

the boss stages are the ones a new player might need to actually borrow stuff

[proud drift]

you can easily make an autodeploy with 3-4* units

[astral oyster]

jt8-2 moment for the condensed blue stuff

[ancient hearth]

you need a E2 anyways to even enter that thing

[loud tendon]

yeah max lvl, and those require a lot of time and resources

[proud drift]

no not max lvl

[loud tendon]

prove it then

[ancient hearth]

kek

[scarlet ledge]

low end squad and low rarity

[astral oyster]

compared to 6* i think max lvl 3 and 4* ops are more reasonable since well you know 6* need irl money to get if u didnt save enough and u can always farm a virtual currency via base

[proud drift]

how would I prove that

by using max 3* ops?

maxing 3* ops isn't hard

you can have all 3* ops maxed probably within... a month of gameplay

[scarlet ledge]

4★ is not hard

i can show u my jp acc

[proud drift]

and that's me not knowing how long it takes

[loud tendon]

haven't even bothered trying 3 stars

[loud tendon]

for you it's not

[proud drift]

that's a waste of sanity then

[frigid kite]

@loud tendon my word, level up 3*, they will give you work up to JT8-2

[turbid badge]

no kwroos

[proud drift]

like

[scarlet ledge]

bro its really not bruh

e1 macx shoudl be enough

[astral oyster]

then thats not game being p2w thats just u refusing to ackowledge the power of low rarity ops and strategies

[proud drift]

Kroos for example is an extremely powerful 3*

she's probably better than a lot of the other snipers at what she does

[loud tendon]

then what purpose do high rarity operators have?

[proud drift]

she attacc

[ancient hearth]

There are some 4 stars too that are pretty much 6 stars when it comes to utility. Cuora, Utage, Myrtal, and Jaye are basically 6 stars in disguise.

[proud drift]

make life easier

[scarlet ledge]

too cheese

[proud drift]

that's all there is

[ancient hearth]

Quality of life.

[astral oyster]

flashy new toys

[frigid kite]

Wait

[proud drift]

it's the same way in other gachas

take genshin for example

[ancient hearth]

Surtr lets me turn off my brain a bit.

[loud tendon]

bro did not just say myrtle has the power of a 6 star

[proud drift]

you can clear 12-3 spiral abyss with just 4* characters on 4* weapons

[frigid kite]

How many low ops can I do on 3-8

Hmm

[proud drift]

she does

[astral oyster]

myrtle is actually core in a lot of strats due to the nature of flag vanguards

[scarlet ledge]

well she is fisst flag bearer until two new rarity came

[proud drift]

the power does not have to be in attack damage and defense

the power can be in what the unit does

[scarlet ledge]

for flagbearer

myrtle change alot of dp reasoing

[astral oyster]

myrtle utility for prinitng dp is broken af

[ancient hearth]

bruh, Myrtle is a 6 star, she is a mistake on the level of surtr, pretty much every CC has her as the most deployed operator

[brazen nest]

No bro my myrtle solos bosses like surtr. No cap

Power of a 6*

[scarlet ledge]

ok this is getting dumb

[loud tendon]

pretty much all of myrtle's capabilites are outclassed by actual 6 star standard bearers like saileach

[astral oyster]

https://youtu.be/3JcxVjYC93U weakest myrtle

[loud tendon]

the only thing she has is dp cost, but you get what you pay for

[ancient hearth]

The vanguard regen at E2 makes a lot of things possible

You would be surprised, it basically lets you ignore all chip damage

[proud drift]

idk for some reason I did not need anything more than myrtle and a texas for 100% of the content I did

[scarlet ledge]

[loud tendon]

hold on lemme look at saileach to fact check that

[smoky crescent]

but higher rarity, higher cost and mats needed. are u sure u can timing well on some stages

[scarlet ledge]

bro u forgot mastery are u fuckjng dumb

[proud drift]

leite now you're just being upset

[scarlet ledge]

this shit getting dumb

[ancient hearth]

Beanstalk carried me through annihlation 3, that crab has no business being immortal like that

[astral oyster]

i dont have saileach and this is my acc started from 2 month ago i cleared content until jt8-2 locked due to amiya i focus on 6* due to begginers doesnt have that much resource to spend around unlike veterans

[proud drift]

okay but

you have two blue women

that's a strike out

also

[astral oyster]

i never use them unless in events

[proud drift]

that account did NOT start 2 month ago

cause you have ling

Ling was in late july-early august

[astral oyster]

a friend opened this acc and played for pulls only

[scarlet ledge]

2 pioneer vanguard is enough for ur dp

[proud drift]

[scarlet ledge]

flagbearer just make it opening setup make easier

[astral oyster]

basically this acc when i have it is only lvl 10 with everyone at lvl 10

[limpid siren]

Uh huh

[ancient hearth]

the 4 stars in this game are pretty cracked for being free or extremely common units

it's the 5 stars that have the real stinkers

[scarlet ledge]

feel

[limpid siren]

Bad take

[molten swan]

💀

horrible take

[scarlet ledge]

hi oofie

[ancient hearth]

somebody made tsukinogi

[molten swan]

you say 4*s are cracked

[proud drift]

I do feel like the welfares in this game are actually pretty decent considering they're free units

[molten swan]

but then 4*s have shit like jackie and earthspirit

so uh

:)

[scarlet ledge]

oofie fuck u

she is good now

😠

[ancient hearth]

cracked for being free or available in recruitment

[scarlet ledge]

jackie is still shit doe

[limpid siren]

It's fun how we always look at the good 4*s vs the bad 5*s

[molten swan]

guess 3*s are also good

cuz they're free

or vigil is also cracked

cuz he's free

:clueless:

[scarlet ledge]

oh what happen to mr mage

did he vanished

[ancient hearth]

vigil is a 3 star

[scarlet ledge]

[ancient hearth]

the 6 star thing must be a mistake

[molten swan]

idk your argument is "free or recruitment-available=good"

[scarlet ledge]

oofie ur good

[molten swan]

which isn't even the case

[scarlet ledge]

teach me max risk

[ancient hearth]

not saying free = good; I'm saying that they're pretty good for being free units given how far they can take you

4 stars were pretty much the core of my team up until chapter 7

[molten swan]

jackie 4*
can take you very far
kek

[ancient hearth]

well, I used beehunter instead

[limpid siren]

[ancient hearth]

cus I ended up with her way before jackie

[scarlet ledge]

i use bee hunter only on cc

cause dodge

other than that

[molten swan]

hmm I scrolled up and uh

you putting cuora equal to a 6* in terms of power

made me completely lose any trust of your arguments

[scarlet ledge]

nothing

[modern plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2KzNXcOMc
I like this tuye s1 showcase but sadly it requires quite a lot and theres exists and op that starts with M that get to negate 100% dmg of everything

[scarlet ledge]

smh tuye hot

[loud tendon]

🎼

[scarlet ledge]

so where now mr mage?

[limpid siren]

Stinky tuye

[loud tendon]

already notified a mod, they can handle you bunch from here

[ancient hearth]

when I need something to tank physical, I still go to cuora these days

[limpid siren]

Hi critz

[molten swan]

that's investment bias in effect

[ancient hearth]

though that's partially because she's already raise; Hoshiguma languished at E0

Yeah, I know

[glad spoke]

@molten swan Please keep it civil, this isn't a competition on being right.

@loud tendon a lot of the advice you are receiving here is legit, even if they're not delivered with the most tact. Try keeping an open mind to suggestions.

[proud drift]

I dunno if we really did anything wrong, we just tried to convince you of why your opinion is wrong and that you should look at the game from a more flexible perspective

[scarlet ledge]

[proud drift]

I cannot see why a mod would need to be involved

[molten swan]

investment bias is incredibly damaging if not controlled

[scarlet ledge]

hi zenith

[cyan gorge]

Just because I don't build Ch'en cause I have Irene, doesn't mean she isn't good to raise

[ancient hearth]

...I was very, very close to E2'ing Jessica for lack of any better AA snipers for a while

[cyan gorge]

ello

[molten swan]

I doubt you'd be fitting so give any advice relating to op powers if that's what you're doing

[limpid siren]

Didn't you just get watch your tone'd, mate?

[molten swan]

I'm not throwing slurs as far as I'm aware

[proud drift]

I'm p.sure critz meant this

[glad spoke]

Slurs aren't the only consideration for what counts as civil discussion in #strategy , I'm sure you're well aware of this by now.

[limpid siren]

I'm not sure he is

[molten swan]

I'm probably gonna summarize things up

Op powers are entirely independant from rarity, if you want to raise someone low rarity when better options exist it's only because your depot is incredibly crippled for anything more expensive and you want someone who can get you by for a short while until your economy is stable
afterwards, you should have start building up strong units to make your gameplay comfy
this is all assuming you only want to be comfy and doesn't want to be self-restrictive with your choices, which invalidates anything I said above to an extent above as your priorities are different from most people

[heady hedge]

ok

[ancient hearth]

Pretty sure nobody disagrees with that. But the macro strategy of having resource starvation is a real factor. 6 and 5 stars are expensive raise, and sacrificing leveling a core team of 3 and 4s just to raise a couple of higher rarity units is rarely worth it unless that 6 star is Ling.

And even max'd Ling might struggle with maps that have DP starvation.

[full finch]

unit effectiveness isn't entirely separate from rarity

especially in interms of absolute output

[gray stone]

You mean dependent?

[molten swan]

if you want to raise someone low rarity when better options exist it's only because your depot is incredibly crippled for anything more expensive and you want someone who can get you by for a short while until your economy is stable

[molten swan]

well

now thinking about it I don't think they are entirely independant

[heady hedge]

the term "entirely" already makes it not credible

[ancient hearth]

there's a correlation there

[molten swan]

more of the "more stars =/=always good"

[full finch]

there are entire archetypes that are stratified by rarity

pioneer moment

[ancient hearth]

just not an exact one

[molten swan]

pioneers lmao

texas the only good 5*

everyone else shafted

[gray stone]

E1 a team of 3 star and 4 star then E2 a 6 star

[heady hedge]

me when the flagbearer lower rarity = better

[molten swan]

saga and ft reign

[scarlet ledge]

oofie die

[full finch]

every 5⭐ pioneer is better than a 4⭐ pioneer

[scarlet ledge]

zima good

😠

[molten swan]

I mean

I can make an argument that chiave

[full finch]

you can't tell me courier is better than chiave

[molten swan]

is worse than scavenger

[full finch]

you can't

[heady hedge]

yes i can. e2 60 courier > e0 1 chiave

[gray stone]

He can't but you can make the argument of less material required to reach E1L55 ig

[heady hedge]

ok im kidding

[full finch]

I have max M3 scavenger
and E1 chiave is basically just as good

[limpid siren]

L take