strategy

[hidden needle]

witch one should i borrow?

[frigid kite]

None, just a joke, try with Pozymka

[tidal sedge]

Kyo and Ecko are both good for strats, but I feel like I am cheating myself by not using my plans to give it a try myself

[frigid kite]

Ah yeah you already have her

[hidden needle]

ye

[glass monolith]

Borrow Kirara, confuse game so hard it give you win out of pity

[hidden needle]

who df is kirara

[frigid kite]

Maybe borrow skalter

[glass monolith]

i will be honest, i had same reaction for first 11 months of AK

[hidden needle]

this person?

[frigid kite]

E2 M3

[hidden needle]

what does the skill look like?

[turbid badge]

yeah look for a higher promotion (e2)+ level and that skill the yellow one

[frigid kite]

Is that one, S2

[hidden needle]

i found one but it says skill specialazation is restrcided

how come?

[tidal sedge]

Damn that is stronk

[glass monolith]

You need to have player in friends to use their mastery on skill

[hidden needle]

oh

will sl7 suffice or does it have to be m3?

[glass monolith]

But what if i friend support Eben and die like a moron

[frigid kite]

"N-no! Wait! Please don't leak caster.... Awww..."

[glass monolith]

Not for myself, Myrtle don't block dog during skill

[frigid kite]

Dog dangerous

[glass monolith]

99% of annihilation run died to sub 100 dog

[frigid kite]

Try with SL7 first

Well, actually, try the stage first and see how it goes for ya

[hidden needle]

i just realized where do you want me to put skalter? to the right of ponze?

[frigid kite]

Left to defender, she will still be hit by caster but I don't think she will die

I hope

[hidden needle]

aight

i can put saria near her to make sure she wont die tbh

[frigid kite]

Saria will die too

Hmm

Give the stage a try

[glass monolith]

i don't need to actually save civilians, right?

[frigid kite]

None will die, only the troll cart while on high tide

[glass monolith]

I love how swimmers are not steathed at frame when they spawn in even if they spawn in water and Gladiia is just GRAB

[frigid kite]

It happens at 200 mark and you have to be ready to block the swimmer

[glass monolith]

MYRTLE GO

FUCK THIS PHONE

I tried to record how Gladiia spawn kill swimmer and it alt tabbed the app causing it to close

[hidden needle]

ponze died before anyone cuz of the explosions

[frigid kite]

Yup

Idk bro sorry, i spent some time on that stage and now i want to rest my mind

[hidden needle]

no problem man ty thought

[frigid kite]

I can help ya with Ex and S stages tho

[storm current]

gladiia can no brain 7 out of the 8 EX stage

if you have an e2 to borrow

[glass monolith]

Motherf- infinite range caster boats

See you in another 30 minute i guess

[modern plover]

only 1 medic and its even e1

[elder flume]

wonder what the top right whirlpool is for

[glass monolith]

I double dare you

[modern plover]

oh nvm lol

interesting placement i must say

[glass monolith]

Not my fault of crigne ranged tile placement on map

[storm current]

@elder flume https://youtu.be/5opQISGhL8M

whirlpool are hole

[glass monolith]

OH UFKC MY LIFE BLOCKER DIED ON 289 AND GUESS WHAT? ANOTHER BOAT

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

[elder flume]

oh hey i was planning to do that

tho idk how to make it efficient yet

[upbeat knoll]

imagine this but she's on a couch and the rest are behind the couch

[glass monolith]

it is annoying how in event with 50 second long farm stage there is 30 minutes long anni

it is like MB with 3 minute farm stage but 15 minute long anni (as theme anni, not part of event) takes revenge

Fuck this shit stage bullshit

There is literally no place to deploy because whereever i deploy i overlap with 2-3 other operators so those casters always explode entire mpa

[fresh copper]

Just like that one stage in TBC

I don't actually need Bison or Tequila, they're just there for insurance in case Kjera RNG isn't in my favor

[glass monolith]

I will just snap and bring Chalter at this point

[proud drift]

ok I finally finished setting up krooster

[frigid kite]

That hurted

[proud drift]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Dswopey

can I make a full afk team

from this

for current anni

I'm fully open to borrowing

[frigid kite]

I think the problem is just chen

She doesn't do anything else after the 1st wave

[storm current]

@proud drift you can, just go on yt or something

borrow skalter will be useful i guess

[proud drift]

I have skalter

[storm current]

since sticker give her 200 atk

[proud drift]

[storm current]

i dont think you need to borrow anything then

since you have 4 blockers

[proud drift]

will blaze not get deleted by the boat tho

or is she tanky enough

[storm current]

you can use fiametta in place of ifrit lane

[frigid kite]

She is tanky

[storm current]

you can use her on top lane

[frigid kite]

Unless she gets corrosoed to 0 Def

[storm current]

which is fairly low threat

[proud drift]

a berry a day keeps cringe at bay

[fresh copper]

Honeyberry isn't needed

[proud drift]

also wait

4 blockers?

isn't mountain solo bottom left?

[fresh copper]

Corrosion in this event is fairly ignorable compared to others

[storm current]

first of all

do you have the no longer reduce aspd on erosion sticker

[proud drift]

good question

[storm current]

and 50 heal erosion melee

[proud drift]

I have no aspd

but I don't think i have 50 heal

ye I don't have 50 heal

[storm current]

can you screenshot map

[proud drift]

guess I keep farming dh-9

[storm current]

the 25 heal should work

but the tanker will bleed out

[proud drift]

I'll cope for 50, it's not far

also who gets the no aspd

or is there a tier3 for all

[storm current]

1 thorns

2 skalter

3 fiametta or medic

4 goldenglow s2

5 blaze

[glass monolith]

FUCK THIS SHIT

[storm current]

6 honey

7 blem

8 hoshi

9 mudrock

[glass monolith]

6 hours of this dog shit map

[storm current]

10 gladiia or mountin

[glass monolith]

I am done

[proud drift]

hoshi ?

I thought by blockers you meant kaltsit not hoshi lmao

[storm current]

also

this one

[proud drift]

goldenglow face down or right

[storm current]

not the protection, but protection should work

right

face down mean she cant attack anything lol

[proud drift]

oh

lol

[storm current]

well

she ca

[proud drift]

oh right

you have a point

[storm current]

cuz s2

[proud drift]

uh

honeyberry face right I assume

[frigid kite]

Wanna know something curious, it should be Tequila Añejo, on spanish the adjetive comes after the sustantive

[proud drift]

will hoshiguma survive tho

oh wait I can also get the uh

coating devices

[storm current]

if you have this

[proud drift]

ye

[storm current]

you should use it on honey

blaze

and prob hoshi

[proud drift]

wait these shits have specific stage drops

that's so cringe

where does corrosion regen drop

7 or 8

[proud drift]

oh okay

I'm just unlucky ig

oh wait

no corrosion regen for ranged tiles?

[proud drift]

nvm it's 8

[storm current]

high tides can reach range tile

[proud drift]

to 8 go, that's the only one I'm missing

[storm current]

and honey cant out heal it if she get -aspd

blem and hoshi are the main caster sponge

[proud drift]

wait

what if I borrow saria

to put in hoshi's place

[frigid kite]

It only happens 2 or 3 times thought, and it doesn't happen on the last wave (the actual hard one)

[storm current]

anything work lol

i used cuora on my alt

[proud drift]

I'll just borrow saria then lol

[storm current]

and she has 0 def by the time the stage end

[proud drift]

hmm

if I put 3 fiammetta

I can't S3 can I

not exactly a good S3 tile

it does hit whatever blemi is blocking I Guess

maybe I should borrow eyja instead

and put her in Fia's spot

[storm current]

borrow ifrit

its literally an ifrit tile lol

[smoky cypress]

[proud drift]

or firit ig

lmao

wonder if I have an ifrit friend with s2m3

[frigid kite]

Oh

1 minute

Up

[proud drift]

o

ty

[scarlet ledge]

lol

@proud drift module left for fia

[proud drift]

why have you not gotten it yet

[scarlet ledge]

trust 97

[proud drift]

my condolences

bruh the thing I need refuses to drop

[scarlet ledge]

@proud drift old auto works

[neat skiff]

Yeah, a shocking number of my old autos work. But for some reason an auto that would never work at all is saved.

[pure orchid]

3 of my autos don't work anymore lol

one of them being the anni

now i have to do it all over again

[split lynx]

are the enemies that spawn here literally just to scare you

[proud drift]

there's a tunnel

[split lynx]

but dont they die before entering

[modern plover]

Yeah they are meant to delete your ranged unit

[frigid kite]

CM shenanigangs

[quaint aspen]

No ranged units

[split lynx]

i just learned that

placed gg and then they all fuckin came out

[modern plover]

Fun

[frigid kite]

Roasted cat

[fresh copper]

They all came?

Onto her?

[neat skiff]

Yes, they get their rocks off to murder.

[fresh copper]

[neat skiff]

Normal they get blue balled, CM they're happy.

[storm current]

0 hp

[fresh copper]

[scarlet ledge]

wish pro

[modern plover]

Gotta love how the last moment of mo stage every enemy just rushes in

[storm current]

very very fun

[modern plover]

It indeed is fun

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current hi

[storm current]

im malding EX8 CM so bad

beach episode

[scarlet ledge]

wat

[storm current]

-50% hp

cant just ling it

[scarlet ledge]

ooh ling

kek

[storm current]

KR alt only has cutter e2

but apparently ILA did an 3* only EX8 CM clear

[stiff coral]

Skalter ling it instead

[storm current]

lmao

[scarlet ledge]

u can grab kal

and kill all kite

using guard

while stalling the boatman

[storm current]

man

the caster hurt my brain too

[turbid badge]

[scarlet ledge]

medic + dreadnought

or just use cutter there

instead of dreadnought

[proud drift]

why does the one token you need

never drop

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can do this, no scene right?

[sweet flower]

Just.Use.Ling

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ling is welfare yes amazing

[turbid badge]

i agree

[frigid kite]

Can't believe they gave such a boring character for free wth

[fresh copper]

I don't have Heavyrain leveled enough yet

Mat issue

[turbid badge]

i was about to say does heavyrain have her mod yet than realized shes a protector not a guardian, and remembered her module increased dodge or smth lol

[fresh copper]

Heavyrain mod increases her block to 4 and higher dodge

It's shit

Bison got the good mod

[storm current]

I think i prefer the extra block

But heavyrain hardly have any def, so

[glass monolith]

I dodge your opinion and look on future events where we get IC taxi but now it need 4 block to be stopped

[brittle radish]

how to prevent chen's ammo RNG at 380/400?

[glass monolith]

Step 1. Don't use Chalter

[proud drift]

@storm current

Ty

[fresh copper]

Glad to have Mint

[proud drift]

Though seeing the last rush made me go

[storm current]

[proud drift]

[storm current]

I actually

Copy a set up from another yt vid

[proud drift]

I had to skalter pet blemi tho twice

Cuz her armor went down to 200-300

So boat start hurt

[mint river]

will this work

[storm current]

Uh

Are you borrowing anyone

If so, ling should help

Since dragon is still 4 block in CM

You only need 1 of them to block the main boat

Else just go ange s2 cycle

Assuming you can deal with the caster on the left side

[proud drift]

Was kinda funny tho seeing e1 60 hoshi survive more boats than e2 60 mod blemi

I guess skalter and honeyberry helped make sure no corrosive procs

[mint river]

I need a better art dealer maybe Reed will come next after Dossole rerun end

[proud drift]

Nope sexas soon

Reed alter pretty far

[storm current]

In CN

Reed alter is after cc11 iirc

The order was texalt > BI rerun > cc11 > reed

[proud drift]

watch us get cc11 before mlynar or sexas

also BI?

[storm current]

Breaking the ice

[proud drift]

what event was it

[storm current]

Gnosis

[proud drift]

oh

[vernal lion]

SilverAsh event

[proud drift]

oh

Global
June 30, 2022 ~ July 14, 2022

I started 3 weeks after it

[storm current]

How do you start at that time

When you are in the server since 2020

[proud drift]

Well you see

I started in 2020 originally

then didn't play for 2 years

login and see skyfire as my only e2 and I was lv60

decided to reroll cuz ling banner

I didn't play much in 2020

I do remember one of the first CCs and its very simple UI

and malding that it was too hard

[glass monolith]

EIGHT FUCKING HOURS OD RHIS 398 SHEIT

[proud drift]

your issue is GG being on s3

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

My issue is this stage exists

[fresh copper]

[proud drift]

also fia imo poopoo for this

no good fia tile

unless you S2

but no archetto

= bad s2 uptime

[glass monolith]

When I used Chen you smart-assed came to say no good Chen tiles so fuck off

[vernal lion]

there's Fia tile

[proud drift]

I never said anything about chen

[vernal lion]

[fresh copper]

Sounds like skill issue to me

[proud drift]

[cyan gorge]

I just cleared it with wet chen first try

[proud drift]

wouldn't squirt chen on goldenglow's tile

just annihilate all the botes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Texalt after ch11, she need salt mat

[glass monolith]

I mean good Chen

Not shotgun

[proud drift]

well you see

good chen is not so good nowadays

unless it's emperor's blade

[fresh copper]

That's the words of a blind meta slave

[proud drift]

honestly

[cyan gorge]

"Good" is subjective

[proud drift]

I kinda wanna try some funky

[glass monolith]

That's great because CN just had EB fight

[fresh copper]

I won't hold it against you though

[mint river]

At least Chen motivated

[proud drift]

manfred memes

with chen + warfarin

[vernal lion]

[proud drift]

give him the EB treatment, y'know

[proud drift]

I am forced to metaslave a little bit to be able to clear the game

my brain not big so metaslave help clear game

clear game = can try funny stuff with no repercussions

[fresh copper]

To be fair it takes a very high IQ to understand Sword Ch'en. The value that her talent remedying her SP costs and supporting offensive recovery operators goes over the heads of an average player. What fools, I pity them.

[proud drift]

I like chen's kit (totally not simping the skin)

but I'll prob never get her

I won't get to double-regen my fia S2

[cyan gorge]

pray for top op + nuker

[proud drift]

idk man nuker tag will drop 100%

had to go through 3 top ops to get a phantom

2 top op+vg still no bagupaipu

[fresh copper]

Or just get spooked by her when rolling for one of the upcoming 6 stars

[proud drift]

I will sooner get top op + shift when it arrives than top op + nuker

[vernal lion]

you wasted 2 years

[scarlet fulcrum]

I bought my og chen with cert

Shrimple as that

[mint river]

I just got Chen from recruitment today

worth

[cyan gorge]

My og chen is still E1, and I've had her since I started

[storm current]

I remember when chen s2 was meta

So i rush that pretty quickly

[mint river]

I'm still gonna e2 chen after I get the mats

I just e2 a bunch of ops I'm broke again now

[vernal lion]

there's still no chap 5 and later chaps in that time

so it's very chill

[storm current]

Eh

[vernal lion]

just build base

[storm current]

Chen was released on chapter 5 tho?

[fresh copper]

I remember when S2 Ch'en was a must have

[storm current]

she was pretty decent there

Since there isnt a lot of strong enemies

[fresh copper]

And then Chapter 6 comes and immediately kills off S2's usage outside of 1P relats

Mobs suddenly are too bulky to go down to one S2 activation

[storm current]

I guess chen can uh

Nuke spider

Or maybe s3 nuke frostnova maybe

But otherwise eh

Ice weeb exist

Regen defender

Also enrage possesessed

[fresh copper]

Not long after came Bibeak and Cutter as alternate Duelstrike Guards

[proud drift]

possessessesed

[vernal lion]

ngl I still use brain power a lot even back to the old days

[storm current]

There are too many S in possessed

[vernal lion]

Catapult is my best sniper in that time

[storm current]

Ngl

[fresh copper]

Back in the old days when nobody in this chat ever said to just borrow Ling

[storm current]

At start

I didnt even use kroos

[fresh copper]

I miss those times

[storm current]

I used bp meteor lol

Cuz i didnt even know kroos is good

[vernal lion]

but Kroos is RNG

even alter too

[glass monolith]

Good

[storm current]

RNG good

[fresh copper]

Just gacha within gacha

[storm current]

Look at mountain

Literally crit RNG and dodge RNG

[glass monolith]

I had Kroos alter just delete chapter 10 chain caster without allowing him to attack once

[proud drift]

conviction S2

the real man gacha

[glass monolith]

Fuck i didn't even knew it attack on first map which had them

[storm current]

https://youtu.be/FJVDDh-GODs

lmao

ILA took it to another level

[molten swan]

He didnt clear it though

Its a repost

[storm current]

ye

its

from bilibili

[glass monolith]

"Amiya simp" - Silvergun

[storm current]

i like how silvergun address ILA as "the amiya simp" instead of "an amiya simp"

because theres only 1 worth remembering

[lethal dragon]

Nice lore

📓

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRsC86gEt4&ab_channel=Sciel

LMAO

Lucian is bound to death

💀

[glass monolith]

DOOR STUCK

[lethal dragon]

Qiu stronk 💪

[glass monolith]

This is why Indigo can't target bound targets

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[topaz hollow]

is there any vid of abusing the holes to clear DH MO 1?

[vernal lion]

you can't

because, I tried

fuck those invisible snipers

[topaz hollow]

hmm yeah thats a concern
and if you use SA you kinda handicap yourself I guess

[vernal lion]

also, the last wave 383/403, they are going to rush hard

you just can't use enough pushing

[glass monolith]

383 rush is "What if we take 350+ of Anni 3. But compress it to 20 enemies"

[topaz hollow]

even Gladiia's S3 cant?

[vernal lion]

https://youtu.be/5opQISGhL8M

[glass monolith]

You can't spawn Gladiia S3 on hole as there is not enemy, and unless you go MEGA FUCKING DIAGONAL PUSH MY ASS why bother?

[topaz hollow]

wait how the fuck did that work

[vernal lion]

Geometry

[molten swan]

geometry

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-gaming-gif-23126732

[topaz hollow]

Ill pretend that I understand

[glass monolith]

Me when game give yet another tutorial stage

[molten swan]

Hang on what the fuck leaked

[glass monolith]

Boat didn't feel like it and split boxed Hoshi

[mild whale]

even with huge amount of attack speed, Chongyue s3 still have to stop for a while before attacking

[supple mountain]

i don't think this annihilation is doable with this squad

[lethal dragon]

...

[storm current]

uh

thats more than enough

just dont bring everyone you like

[supple mountain]

who am i meant to bring then

cause i swapped out my gummy for uh

indigo s1

[storm current]

GG isnt core borrow

you can do fiametta core or ifrit or horn

the main strategy is spawn camping them

[supple mountain]

wtf ifrit gaming

[storm current]

since they give you a lot of time to kill

[lethal dragon]

Bring Ethan please

[supple mountain]

no

i don't have an ethan

and never will have one

[lethal dragon]

You need to buy him

[supple mountain]

no

[lethal dragon]

He isn't a vanguard

[supple mountain]

ok

i know what he is

[storm current]

[supple mountain]

but i'm still not buying him

[lethal dragon]

Bro then why are you asking help I am done

[storm current]

you can cope with manticore

but bad

[supple mountain]

i wanted to do it without ethan

what else do yoi think im asking for

which skill for ifrit

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/829956519138426880.gif

[gleaming lodge]

S2 is you're lazy
S3 for arts burst

[supple mountain]

is this one s2?

i don't have ifrit so wouldn't know

[gleaming lodge]

Yes, that's S2

[supple mountain]

[proud drift]

but why

[supple mountain]

dont like ethan so i'll simply just figure out a strat without him

[lethal dragon]

Aosta?

[supple mountain]

he's at e0

[lethal dragon]

Yep works

[supple mountain]

lv 1

s1

[lethal dragon]

I think E1 is needed

You just need his dot talent

It's aoe like Ethan

[supple mountain]

the what

[lethal dragon]

This

[supple mountain]

oh that

so i gotta e1 him for the strat

[lethal dragon]

Do you have weedy

[supple mountain]

no

[lethal dragon]

Best borrow for you will be horn S1

[fresh copper]

💢

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[fresh copper]

3 medics and I'm still struggling to survive Mephisto's boosted poison damage

Makes a world of difference not having a real AOE medic

[supple mountain]

can't find a horn s1

i found the overload skill

and the tempest command

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/b6EwswgSoRQ

Ethan will be replaced with Aosta

[supple mountain]

i don't have any of those operators bro apart from thorns

[lethal dragon]

Bagpipe with any dmg dealer

[supple mountain]

😭😭😭

[lethal dragon]

No pluma?

[supple mountain]

i do but she isn't raised

[lethal dragon]

Ifrit can be replaced with Gladiia S1 or 3

[supple mountain]

same with lancet

[lethal dragon]

You just need a medic

Not Lancet specifically

[supple mountain]

cant i just like

make it work with ops i already have

[molten swan]

Just use honeyberry

[supple mountain]

then find a core support

[lethal dragon]

Core operator is ling then

[storm current]

is your gladiia s1 m3

[supple mountain]

wtf ling?

[storm current]

you can do pull strat

[supple mountain]

no

she's at sl 7 for all skills

[storm current]

[supple mountain]

i was busy putting modules on spalter and indigo and masteries among other things so

don't have a lot of built ops

[lethal dragon]

Do you have spalter 2nd mod

[supple mountain]

which one

x or y

i have both

[lethal dragon]

Is it maxed?

[supple mountain]

bro i'm asking if it's x or y

i have both of them at lv 3

[lethal dragon]

Y

[lethal dragon]

Oh damn

[supple mountain]

y?

i thought x was needed for using spalter in the annihilation

[lethal dragon]

I assume you Chen module is lv3 as well

[supple mountain]

no

its level 2

[lethal dragon]

Hmm you can adapt to this strategy
Replace skalter with a healer
Pluma with your Chen and deploy spalter on the left tile of thorns one tile ahead I mean

Borrow horn

Instead of ifrit use Gladiia

Need a caster too to replace ifrit

[rose patrol]

how hard is anni 15

iirc its guiding ahead stage

[glass monolith]

Imagine 390 dogs

You are killing 390 dogs

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/829956519138426880.gif?quality=lossless

Is chocolate street next reset?

[glass monolith]

If today is Monday yes

[lethal dragon]

[scarlet ledge]

its ez

lots of chokepoint in middle lane

[supple mountain]

yes

thankfully no boss

[glass monolith]

it has miniboss

You probably havent noticed it on clear videos

[supple mountain]

i tried using map.ark and the ui is horrible on mobile

[glass monolith]

he just walk out of middle ladder and disappear

[glass monolith]

this fucking DH-MO-1 gave me cancer

where is my fucking "deploy defender during high tide" sticker i'm done with this shit

[waxen swan]

Lol

[fervent prairie]

DH MO 1 is EZ

[main halo]

It's not even good on pc either

[elder flume]

thought of bringing all the middle boatmen to bottom lane for hole but some goes from bottom to mid

and my fast redeploys prob cant handle last wave casters

not sure if their pathing will change to shortest if pushed down

prob possible with lee somehow

[sly drift]

Went 399/400 in DH-MO-1
This game is literally fking kidding me

[main halo]

Gee what's with DH-S-2?

[fervent prairie]

is that the one with the exploding crabs

[main halo]

Yeah

The flood is annoying

My Honeyberry couldn't heal everyone

[fervent prairie]

its EZ if you have the sticker with the 3 devices thing

also a healing defender helps

[main halo]

And then we have the mission that only allows us to use 1

[fervent prairie]

what

it just says to use at least 1 or did I read it wrongly

[main halo]

Oh I misread it's carry at least tier 3 sticker

Nevermind

[fervent prairie]

[glass monolith]

go full flex and win DH-MO-1 with "recycle only" stickers equiped

[main halo]

Gee

[glass monolith]

Damn it is not fun, i emptied my sanity before DH-MO-1 twice and about to hit cap for third time

[main halo]

You really don't love yourself do you?

[glass monolith]

How did you guess? (hides Fia which i pulled after 111 rolls)

[main halo]

[stiff coral]

Use guardian to block the dockleader
And lappland below guardian facing up to silence their stun ability

Can use any arts fighter to attack dockleader by guardian like amiya

[glass monolith]

Why 304/403 is fucking kill gate?

What it is with AK and weirdest ass wave check points

[main halo]

Anyone knows the duration of the wave?

Gee it feels like forever

[gleaming lodge]

What do you mean by duration?

You can check map.ark for kill/time gates

[main halo]

I mean the high tide

[glass monolith]

Until you kill wave unless it is timed to disappear sooner, have fun

[gleaming lodge]

Pretty sure the waves are linked to kill-gates

[glass monolith]

I fucking feel like i need to bring 5th defender...

[main halo]

Seriously?

[glass monolith]

383/403 wave won't even finish, have fun

Time for some fucking drastic measures (Friend support Carnelian)

[gleaming lodge]

Bring a few defenders and cycle them yeah

[jovial nest]

S-2 and S-4 feel nostalgic. Why is it nostalgic to have my lineup get high tide that reaches ranged tiles?

[astral oyster]

Im following eckogen DH MO 1 guide and always dont have enough time to redeploy any help?

[jovial nest]

is it the redeploy cooldowns or DP?

also try other guides that might be nearer your comp's capabilities

[astral oyster]

Cd the last boat mage dude dies to fast to fang for some reason

[gleaming lodge]

You might also want to understand the guide

Are you missing any kill-gate timings ?

Do you have the same potential?

[astral oyster]

Yes

[jovial nest]

if we're considering perfect mirror

[main halo]

Took me long enough

[jovial nest]

the only consideration you might've missed is....

Trust

are the ops you're using all 100% or higher?

grats on the CM clear of that map

S-2 and S-4 are challenging

[gleaming lodge]

Also, now that we have elemental healing, this event should be rather easy

[jovial nest]

this is like CoB or UT rerun all over again

CoB with Surtr

UT with Berries + Lee

[neat skiff]

Is it just me or has Mlynar not really shown up all that much in the past couple months?

[jovial nest]

its like bringing a Surtr

you don't bring her if the map ain't demanding

Mlynar is like a Surtr that doesn't have to retreat but it's physical and TSS range

[neat skiff]

"Absurdly crazy high dps, super meta" meanwhile I've seen more Dorothy and a lot more Lin.

[jovial nest]

sounds like pet peeves of players tbh

[main solstice]

[jovial nest]

not at all goddamn mirroring what's good

[neat skiff]

Hell, even Poz I've seen used more than Mly.

[jovial nest]

like I said

Surtr-like

you don't bring long CD nukes in a stage that doesn't demand them

[soft crystal]

I barely bring chalter

But i bring chen all the time :p

[neat skiff]

Also, Mizuki T2 module is so good for him.

[gleaming lodge]

Bruh
Stop watching showcases and look at some high level clears instead
Dorothy is pretty bad outside of 1P or other specific stuff

[supple widget]

Okay so it works 99% until vigna dies to the greatswordsman leader. So I was wondering if I should prioritize getting another AOE medic to keep her Alive?

[neat skiff]

Why would I look at high end content?

I look at content people actually run.

[gleaming lodge]

Mlynar is hardly long CD
And nearly all stages can get blasted by his S3

[storm current]

@supple widget uh you can try bringing gravel to tank some hit

[gleaming lodge]

Because that's where the good ops actually show up ?

[storm current]

Or a defender

[jovial nest]

so......that's the issue then

I mean some players prioritize trust farm so much they try to Ling everything....
<- Me.
It really depends on the player's priorities

[neat skiff]

Yeah. I don't give a single solitary shit about high end content. That is for other people to go grey from.

[gleaming lodge]

If you look at #AverageJoe69, of course the gameplay won't be optimized

[jovial nest]

so why you spouting unused meta ops to those who never bother with hard content?

its like asking me to use Surtr on 1-7

[neat skiff]

I'm not spouting them though.

[gleaming lodge]

Don't say X or Y op sees no usage then
Nobody cares about 13 maxed out 6* H5-4

[neat skiff]

I'm like "this op everyone and their mother is saying to pull for and they're nowhere to be seen"

[main solstice]

[jovial nest]

do you bother reading what we post?

cause....it sounds like you don't

[neat skiff]

I've seen the high end content. I can't not see it in here.

[gleaming lodge]

So you're telling me that if I make a YouTube series with Fiametta as my main DPS, all of a sudden everyone should pull for her ?

[neat skiff]

Global has Fia.

[gleaming lodge]

And ?

[main solstice]

mly one of the best ops in every game mode and you are telling me he is nowhere to be seen

[jovial nest]

i wish people actually watch my vids so they go crazy over Rosmontis potential

[neat skiff]

We know what she is like first hand.

[jovial nest]

[main halo]

Sounds like a waste of time

[neat skiff]

Imagine having an op so limited they don't even have their 5x "off banner" weighting anymore.

[gleaming lodge]

Well I've read the kits and seen some vids so I know how good Mlynar is

[neat skiff]

Mlynar is incredible. He deleted entire stages.

[gleaming lodge]

I don't need to see twenty thousand vids about how Dorothy performs
Just show me an optimised clear with Mlynar and I immediately understand how broken he is

[jovial nest]

you know what a true showcase is? Zero buffers

I'm tired of superbuff compilations

[main halo]

Yeah

[gleaming lodge]

Wrong

[scarlet mortar]

cries in liskarm

[main halo]

Even Yato's capable of beating FN with the right amount of buffs

[soft crystal]

I mean a showcase where a warfed chen or irene is valid tbh

If it oneshots stuff

[gleaming lodge]

If both opd are good without buffers but one has +ATK and the other is ATK_scale, just slapping in one Warf S2 will change everything

And sometimes the optimal way is with Warf S2

[soft crystal]

Not superbuff but just the right amount of buffs

[scarlet mortar]

i think buffs go well in showcases if you also show how well they benefit from them

[jovial nest]

i guess it really depends on what peeps want to see in an operator

ok finally got a working 5 ops in S-4.

[main halo]

Like Mlynar who can sweep quickly with Aak S3?

[scarlet mortar]

it's not that useful either to see a buffed op wipe stuff on its own, regardless if they scale well

[gleaming lodge]

Anyway
Just because a lot of people use Dorothy or Lin ( ) doesn't make them good
The useful metric is how impactful they are in those clears

[jovial nest]

imagine thinking Lin is good

[neat skiff]

Direct opposite of my point but pop off.

[soft crystal]

She has a good butt

[jovial nest]

not even the most optimistic #cn-lounge CN player consider her as good

[gleaming lodge]

What is your point then ?

[scarlet mortar]

for mlynar i think not showcasing buffs at all would be fine, shows how absurd mans is

[main halo]

And Carne has good boobie

[neat skiff]

That he is like taking Surtr into 1-7.

[jovial nest]

its like taking ANYTHING good in 1-7.

[soft crystal]

Surtr cant solo 1-7 this is so sad

[jovial nest]

I clear that shit with unraised ops

i can use Lin there

[gleaming lodge]

Stop using 6* then ?

[supple widget]

Nah bring surtr to 0-1 and you'll see a real struggle

[jovial nest]

and complete newbies might believe she's the best

[gleaming lodge]

What is this take Khold ?
I do not understand

[scarlet mortar]

...i think khold's point is that people don't bother making showcases of mlynar bc he is so plain and braindead that any showcase would look the same

[gleaming lodge]

Are you saying Mlynar is too good ?

I don't know about you but that sounds really interesting to me

[jovial nest]

no KHOLD's point originally was he only saw videos that use Dorothy and Lin

and devoid of Mlynar

and now consider Mlynar trash

[neat skiff]

"This op is so overpowered, why do I not see them used more often?"

You're a fucking idiot, you don't see him since he is unneeded and OP
Now lets focus on niche ops you mentioned once as an off handed comparison

[jovial nest]

we ask you to watch hard content

and proceed to say "fuck that"

[neat skiff]

I have seen the hard content.

[jovial nest]

any Lins?

[neat skiff]

It's a shit ton of pause spam getting everything frame perfect.

[gleaming lodge]

And Mlynar destroys hard content
Why would we care about easy content?
Scene solos it

[neat skiff]

Of course there are no Lins. Her 800 damage immunity is too low.

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar's used often but nobody's gonna make a schwing compliation

[jovial nest]

because everybody already did so much SA compilation

[main solstice]

if an op is good in hard content he will destroy normal content and make your life easier instead of using trash lin or dorothy

[astral oyster]

Out of 10 what will dorothy score? For overall gameplay and content

[jovial nest]

that Mlynar showcases would just be SA's

[gleaming lodge]

You should never need to shield your ranged ops, given aggro is managed properly

[scarlet mortar]

there's a difference between usage frequency and showcase frequency, the latter needs to look impressive

mlynar deadass makes everything look the same ngl

[latent monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Vrv7bXwns schwing

[gleaming lodge]

Khold
If you actually think Lin is good, I suggest you stop coming right away
Or your health will be at stake

[neat skiff]

I DO NOT THINK LIN IS GOOD

[scarlet mortar]

i think i've shared that one here

or maybe it was a 2op

[torn ice]

i just came here and boi this is something

[jovial nest]

So wth do we take from this?

[neat skiff]

"How many videos are said ops in?"

[jovial nest]

then behold

[waxen swan]

Khold u didn't just say Dorothy good

[jovial nest]

Myrtle is best

[gleaming lodge]

This has been the average #strategy interaction for a long time now...

[supple widget]

Grab a seat and some popcorn while you're here!

[jovial nest]

in terms of ops shown

[torn ice]

is that just mean (how many players having fun with X)?

[torn ice]

dam i should be here more often

[neat skiff]

Myrtle is the literal most used op in the whole game. No one is arguing her supremacy.

[torn ice]

is she tho?

[jovial nest]

even i don't make hot takes this hot

[gleaming lodge]

Yeah, if we take that into account then Myrtle >>> Ely and Sail
Which is huh... big

[torn ice]

how do you proof she is the most used?

[waxen swan]

Sadly ur not hot

[scarlet mortar]

...so ig we cap it off with this

[neat skiff]

The devs literally tell us.

[torn ice]

where?

[supple widget]

These would make talulah sweat lmao

[jovial nest]

the devs outright stream what's most used

Myrtle wins

everytime

due to low rarity

[gleaming lodge]

CC stuff

[jovial nest]

and cheapest first drop

[torn ice]

but is not that just CC?

like i want to see a stat of everywhere

[jovial nest]

.....i use flagpipes in EXs

don't tell me how to play

[torn ice]

am not telling anyone how to play

[jovial nest]

people use flagpipes not just in CC

the only time people stop using them is to trust farm

[torn ice]

am saying is that stat the whole game or just cc

its a simple question

[scarlet mortar]

there was that anniv retrospective event that tells you which op you used the most

[jovial nest]

or trying to make a low ops vid

[scarlet mortar]

lo and behold all the myrtles

[torn ice]

ya it told me its nearl

[glass monolith]

FUCK!!!

[torn ice]

i did not even bring nearl in ages

[jovial nest]

think of it like this. I want to drop Gavialter, Mudrock, Chalter, and Pozy as my main lineup

[scarlet mortar]

and me mudrock

[jovial nest]

Flagpipe it is!

[torn ice]

am wondering how much i actually used nearl back in the days

jusan

you going away from my question

[jovial nest]

i am already a sample that it's not just CC

[glass monolith]

S1 Nearl is fucking useless, time for drastic S2 Nearl

[gleaming lodge]

The what ?

[torn ice]

the what v2

[scarlet mortar]

krill issue

[gleaming lodge]

That's the other way around...

S2 Nearl is actually hot garbage

[jovial nest]

Isn't Nearl's S2 trash?

[gleaming lodge]

Especially because S1 stacks

[glass monolith]

I have the "enemy deals 51% of your hp" situation

[jovial nest]

S2 Nearl has a TON of cooldown with her having 0 heals

[scarlet mortar]

wait i thought this was abt ntrk, ok no S2 is ass

[glass monolith]

Bitch just starts healing when dead on 383

[torn ice]

so that stat is just CC then

[flint laurel]

what stage is this

[jovial nest]

which one?

Myrtle?

[torn ice]

ya i asked that and noone answering

[glass monolith]

DH-MOrgue-1

[jovial nest]

Myrtle as most used statistics is ALL of it

[scarlet mortar]

MO-1

[gleaming lodge]

The big boat guys ?
You might want to retreat just to clear the DEF shreds

Also, what is Gladiia doing ?

[scarlet mortar]

myrtle's used in CC, IS, idk SSS stats but ok it's massively impractical not to bring her

that's like everything

[glass monolith]

Did you know those fuckers send explosive boats on bot left corner even during 383? I do now

[torn ice]

other flags are just superior tho

i guess myrtle is just cheaper

and thats why people bring her more often

[main halo]

And has shorter CD

[gleaming lodge]

More no one wants to raise another flag
Myrtle was already pretty old when Ely dropped

[torn ice]

they generate more dp per skill
and offer more utility

[jovial nest]

Myrtle's printing value comes from her being cheaper and has her S1M3 be near immediately used

[torn ice]

they are superior but ya myrtle being older and cheaper helps her a lot

[gleaming lodge]

You might want to check map.ark or a guide before attempting and annihilation

[jovial nest]

due to initial SP

[scarlet mortar]

the extra usefulness from other flags comes with steeper costs, and less people play in content hard enough that would force you to use them

[jovial nest]

Saileach S1 and Ely S1 starts beating her printing after a long while

so you would bother using the other 2's S1M3 on annis

[torn ice]

is it not just 2 casts?

which is not really a long while

[gleaming lodge]

After second activation yeah

[scarlet mortar]

yh but you'll have retreated myrtle after 1

[gleaming lodge]

That's a nice 60/80s though

[jovial nest]

must be quite the map for me to need flags activate more than 2 times

until i finish my setup

[torn ice]

i do multiple flags active a run

[scarlet mortar]

nobody keeps flags around by 60s ngl

[dusky grove]

Huh

[torn ice]

mostly because i bring 1 without bag maybe

[gleaming lodge]

To be honest you don't even need vg in most stages

[torn ice]

true

[jovial nest]

if its normal stages

trust farming

[glass monolith]

Dude i already told the fuck is going there. What else do you want?

[jovial nest]

0 VGs

[torn ice]

i have been shafting my self to canta solo vg or no vg recently

[dusky grove]

Idk I rarity abuse so I do keep flags until the end of my setup

[gleaming lodge]

defknights player coping

[jovial nest]

squid pls don't remind me

[dusky grove]

[jovial nest]

my Waifuknights' cheapest operator is 22 DP

[torn ice]

just any player with high rarity tbh

[jovial nest]

and its not even a Defender

[lapis hornet]

you can open with 22dp what's the problem

[jovial nest]

dogs

[torn ice]

my waifuknights have like 3 marksman

[gleaming lodge]

If you already knew about it, why are you surprised?
Put Gladiia S1 in E3 facing down and you're done

[scarlet mortar]

LE-EX-8 CM i opened with a thorns and mud

[glass monolith]

DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?

[dusky grove]

Dude

[gleaming lodge]

My waifuknights probs has Liskarm as the cheapest melee

[dusky grove]

Can you chill?

[gleaming lodge]

[jovial nest]

well I'm done with milestone

bye

[glass monolith]

He literally asks me why i have gladiia here and when i explain he ask for ark-night proof and when i show it he ask me to just use Gladiia there

[neat skiff]

High tide stealth dudes.

[jovial nest]

did you answer his question why Gladiaa there?

[neat skiff]

Gladiia would be there as a budget Mountain.

[scarlet mortar]

you uh. didn't deploy her at the E3 tile though

[glass monolith]

Because

[gleaming lodge]

idk Gladiia's placement seems unoptimal

[dusky grove]

Everyone missing minus' point

[neat skiff]

Pulling them into the pit is pretty worthless as you would still need a blocker for stealthed enemies.

[gleaming lodge]

She doesn't pull into the hole that is right above her

[dusky grove]

Eh

[gleaming lodge]

I didn't remember about the stealth dudes yeah

[neat skiff]

So she is a knockoff Mountain or you use a blocker alongside her.

[dusky grove]

Someone with regen and dps

[glass monolith]

Robots are sorta heavy

[jovial nest]

quite the knockoff....

[dusky grove]

I would say glad is at her place

[glass monolith]

and if i pull them in hole they will explode regardless and damage bottom middle corner which means 1 less tile where i can deploy ops

[dusky grove]

But eh idk

[jovial nest]

https://youtu.be/5opQISGhL8M
anyways time to remind everyone of this again

[dusky grove]

What's ur actual problem

[scarlet ledge]

tf happening

[scarlet mortar]

reminds me of that CC daily with the explosive slugs

[glass monolith]

403/403

[dusky grove]

Bruh

[scarlet mortar]

you pull them down the cliff and they blow up anw

[scarlet ledge]

idk i just use my old auto

[dusky grove]

My auto broke due to all the mods

Nice one

[scarlet ledge]

my old auto is pure afk

[glass monolith]

AK runs on same engine as DooM which has infinite height of objects as explosions etc

[dusky grove]

Blem

[main halo]

My Gladiia is S1M3 so she should be able to pull the water motorbike casters right?

[dusky grove]

[main halo]

The only puller I'd ever M3

[jovial nest]

my old auto was attempting a low ops

[main halo]

Let alone M6

[gleaming lodge]

Blembishine

[jovial nest]

and it leaked 1 Sailor

[scarlet ledge]

[jovial nest]

good enough for a 5 ops

but i still redid it with newer ops

[elder flume]

0.1 tile shift

[jovial nest]

like Horn and Gavialter

[scarlet ledge]

yes, she is m9

s1 gaming

[neat skiff]

Boats are weight 4, casters are weight 2.

[dusky grove]

Glad s1m3 is only 3 forces

[neat skiff]

She is force 2...

[dusky grove]

Zamn

[neat skiff]

All pullers (except for Snowsant talent) are capped at force 2.

[signal granite]

level 2 strength, ys

[scarlet ledge]

i think my old auto improved because of atk+ pots on skalter

💀

[dusky grove]

Damn pullers suck harder than I thought

💀💀💀

[main halo]

Gladiia can deal damage

[neat skiff]

Exclusively 5 and 6 star pushers can go force 3 or higher.

[elder flume]

theyre pretty based if you have ange S3L1