strategy

[storm current]

if you silence them

they have 0

[full finch]

I would absolutely use lapp on right side

[lethal dragon]

Oh fuck

[mellow axle]

Ohh refraction can be silenced? well thats new for me💀

[lethal dragon]

I thought it was death animation

[storm current]

well ye most dont know it

[mellow axle]

well then i think i have my problem solved for right lane i guess

[storm current]

anyway

[mellow axle]

Thanks for the help peeps

[dawn hearth]

I've been playing 4 days, so I can't quite gauge what my rate of progress should be but I've run into a problem stage 3-6.
I tried to look up the stage for alternative solutions and found a 3 star run courtesy of KyoStinV. I tried to mimic it but even though my heroes are at higher levels, they die at moments where the ones in video don't. I feel like a clown that I can't get it after several practice attempts. Would appreciate any help.

Follow-up question, I'm not entirely sure how hard to invest in 3 star heroes, after having picked up a few 4 and 5 stars.
When is a good point that I should start switching? E1 level 55? I'm already feeling low on LMD resource wise.

[storm current]

i think you can do specter as well

[turbid badge]

cliffheart s2 can help with left side to stun the flying dudes so they drop down if lapp cant kill

but i think lapp anjd bp should be enough

yeah

[mellow axle]

yea spectre cant hold them too , but i havent tried if paired with silence

[storm current]

is it because of the gargoyle or

[mellow axle]

nah i havent even reached that part yet

[civic nest]

3* operator can only go up to e1lv55

[mellow axle]

or maybe i just miss time my spectre abilty idk, just m3d her yesterday didnt try yet

[storm current]

for 3-6

you may want to borrow a unit if you get stuck

[full finch]

3⭐ are a solid starting option, but they don't scale
where you are is a good time to start switching into higher rarity units

also
you might give a few practice attempts to figure out where incoming damage is coming from

[mellow axle]

i dont think i have a plan to build her for some time, can she be useful for most stage?

[full finch]

other handy things to know would be that:
you can pause the game at any time; skills can be activated, and units can be retreated while paused
clicking on a unit on the field or bench puts the game in bullet time, and you can use this to micro manage your units

[mellow axle]

anyway do u have some list on base slave i should e1 , just putting some thoughts into it

[storm current]

uh not many

since you e1 most of them anyway

[latent halo]

Long press on tiles will shows u the info of it

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1049264920325267536/20221111_223305.png

[mellow axle]

because my limit on resource i havent touched any 3 4 star that im not using on stage so yea mahbe a lot

well u see my base is chaos too i just replace and put any thing that it is lol

im gonna ask here again after finishing later

thanks a lot tho

[dawn hearth]

I tried 10 practice attempts to figure out why I was dying and I couldn't quite figure it out, also was taking advantage of pausing and bullet time to try to get a near perfect replica of actions in the 3 star clear.

I suppose I can try borrowing a unit, but I'm not quite sure how that works as I haven't done it yet.
Does the unit scale down? Is it only good for 1 stage a week or otherwise? (I suppose I can look this part up)

[civic nest]

u can use support whenever u want

they will not be weaker

but u can’t auto the stage u use them in

[full finch]

support scales to the highest level (or the level that player has leveled them to) of the highest promotion unit in your squad

so if you have only E0 units, you will borrow E0
if you have one E1 unit you will borrow E1
if you have one E2 you will borrow E2

[dawn hearth]

Ah I see that's very helpful, thank you for that info!

[neat skiff]

If you only have E0 on your team then the borrowed unit will be reduced to E0 max.
If you have 1 or more E1 on your team then it's reduced to E1 max.
If you have 1 or more E2 then you can borrow E2 at the level they have them however with no masteries.
To unlock masteries they need to be on your friends list.

[full finch]

also, do you want some help from here on 3-6?

[dawn hearth]

I'll give it a try with a support hero a few times, if I'm still struggling I might need some assistance yes.

[turbid badge]

oki

[radiant plinth]

💀💀💀

[full finch]

one tip I can give you right now
bring some units with 1 block to drop onto the invisible casters, which will relieve some pressure from your medics

[molten swan]

Ah yes 3-6

The stage where I just plug mountain+medic on one lane and everyone else on another

[full finch]

there's only 1 lane

[radiant plinth]

I remember 3-8 being a pain

[dawn hearth]

I managed to figure it out, my aoe caster dying was the big hurdle.
Not enough damage and enemies piled up despite 2 guards and vanguard/guard.
But I suppose now wouldn't be a bad idea to take stock of the operators I have and who I should work towards next of the 4/5 star variety.

[radiant plinth]

Had to borrow an e1

Lowest lvl of my Arknights career

[molten swan]

Wait hang on hang on

Do you know anything about deployment order

[dawn hearth]

Yes, I deployed guards defender last so they'd take the aggro priority (not sure if correct term?)

[radiant plinth]

Yeah

Although that’s usually for a defender or specialist

[dawn hearth]

Yeah my bad was thinking Defender, said Guard. Itll take a moment guard is just melee dps, not really a whole lot of "guard"ing

[full finch]

it's kinda weird dw

[radiant plinth]

It is kinda weird- I just think of it that they guard chokepoints

With damage

[full finch]

seems legit

[radiant plinth]

I give up for today

Day 20 here I come

[full finch]

oof

[radiant plinth]

[full finch]

you'll get it eventually

hopefully sooner rather than later

[radiant plinth]

This is such a pain

Needing a 3rd bug was not in my plans

Originally I only needed 1

How naive of me

[full finch]

bugginess increasing

[radiant plinth]

Pulling 1 off is already hard

2 is pushing it

3 at a really awkward timing

Hard

[storm current]

imagine

after publishing the video

HG just fix the bug

[full finch]

unrepeatable clear
legendary

[storm current]

literally one of a kind

[molten swan]

Cobra is on a timer that you cant see the time for

[dawn hearth]

If I post my roster, could I get some advice on next operators to work on? In regards to upgrading from 3 stars that I mentioned earlier.
I'm still learning that there are different flavors per Class (and already made mistake with working on Scavenger when I have Courier)

[full finch]

yeah go ahead

[dawn hearth]

Current group

Other 4 star and higher options + Shaw not in SS

[storm current]

for now

[full finch]

huh

[storm current]

you can follow the general preset of
2 vanguard
2 medic
2 sniper
1 art source
1 aoe source
2 defender
wildcard

2 vanguard is scavenger courier

2 medic can be warfarin ansel, but replace ansel with perfumer

[full finch]

liskarm replaces beagle
vigna replaces vanilla
you can ignore shining and amiya in favor of warfarin and angelina

oh and perfumer is good

[storm current]

2 sniper is kroos + jessican until you get may or vermeil to replace jessica

[full finch]

besides that I'd wait until you get some more units to pick from

[storm current]

typically you want 1 ST medic and 1 AOE medic

shining, warfarin, ansel and sussuro are ST medic

perfumer is AOE

[full finch]

ig replace ansel with warf and raise perf

[storm current]

for 2 defender, you usually want a tanky type, like liskarm here

and a healing type

like spot/gummy

ange can be art carry

shirayuki/lava can be aoe carry

[full finch]

honestly
I'd wait beyond the few units mentioned
spot/shirayuki need to be E1'd for base anyway so they're fine
but your roster is lacking in good options right now, so either wait until there's a good banner (unknown wait) or drop some pulls on a standard (poor investment)

there's some good meta units in the upcoming future, but those are potentially months away, and it's not good to wait that long

[dawn hearth]

2 Vanguard - Courier, Scavenger, Vigna to replace Vanilla
2 Medic - Warfarin, Perfumer
2 Sniper - Jessica, Kroos
1 Art Source - Angelina
1 Aoe Source - Lava/Shirayuki
2 Defender - Liskarm, Spot(?), Cardigan does self heal if that is what you meant.

If I put everything together correctly. Do I need to worry about any Guards or just don't have the good options alongside Snipers like you mentioned?

[full finch]

you really don't have good options

matoimaru is okay, and you can E1 her for base

[storm current]

the remaining slot are wildcard

you use whichever is fitting for the stage

or a very strong unit you have

[full finch]

but like
flamebringer and astesia both suck
beehunter is mid, and dobermann is bad

[radiant plinth]

Astesia is good wdym

[storm current]

do you still have 5* selector on you

[radiant plinth]

She just gets surtr comparison too much

[storm current]

you should

[full finch]

astesia...
comparing her performance even to other arts guards not named surtr she's still terrible

[storm current]

i mean

she exists before surtr

and her performance is still eh

[full finch]

especially when guardmiya exists and is simply better in every way

[dawn hearth]

I did a 10 roll on the current banner. I was told not to roll more than that for now since new event coming? With potential new banner? I don't know anything about this, I'm still just trying to learn the game 😅 Friend that got me started suggested I use the selector on Warfarin, it probably wasn't the best option the more I learn.

[lethal dragon]

Like mousse?

[storm current]

nah warfarin is fine

i assume you pick liskarm for the other one

its fine

[full finch]

warf is fine
DPS is just usually preferred over healing

[dawn hearth]

Yes, the 4 choice selector was Liskarm

[storm current]

you just severely lack dps

[full finch]

though at E1 warfarin gets a skill the buffs other units' ATK

[storm current]

just hope you can fish cutter out of recruit

[waxen swan]

I been doing nothing but get nukker

[dawn hearth]

I've exhausted recruit banner already 😔
Some more oomph damage would be nice yes.

[storm current]

get nuker tag

set to 9:00

get cutter

[full finch]

cutter is nuker tag

[storm current]

[molten swan]

Survivalist prison is scary

[storm current]

brainfarted

just be glad you have perfumer

if not them dead

[full finch]

perf

[cunning river]

There's no unit with debuff immunity to themselves on a skill or passive, right?

[full finch]

only status res

[molten swan]

Debuff immunity

Uh

Lee

[dawn hearth]

Appreciate the help by the way everyone, I have a plan now!

[full finch]

you can add me as a friend if you want

Seth#5750

[cunning river]

I sometimes get the feeling that Lumen's S3 doesn't work

[neat skiff]

Do you know what “resist” does?

[cunning river]

Isn't Lumen's S3 supposed to remove status effects?

[scarlet ledge]

read

[cunning river]

Removing negative statuses to the target

So yeah

[neat skiff]

Lumen S3 removes what resist reduces.

[cunning river]

It's supposed to do that

[full finch]

it doesn't work on debuffs, only status effects

[neat skiff]

Stun, chill, freeze and Talulah burn. Nothing else.

[cunning river]

That's what I'm talking about, yeah

[storm current]

it doesnt remove the burn elemental dmg aftermath despite temporary ye

[gray stone]

Also dragon's burn

[scarlet ledge]

remember ops need to get damaged

so lumen can heal it

[turbid badge]

uhh

[cunning river]

That there's a distinction is stupid ngl

[cunning river]

That's kinda dumb

[scarlet ledge]

only ceylon bypass healing to remove status

just press s2 and status gone

😱

srill need to wait a little doe

[full finch]

you forgor nian S3

[scarlet ledge]

i use s2 on nian

i forgot

hi xollis

[neat skiff]

Welcome to why status resist is apparently a complete fucking mystery.

[drifting agate]

Love it when SSS doesn't deal me any vanguards for 10 draws

[neat skiff]

Spam supporters or some other shit advice.

[drifting agate]

Cycled through all supports no vans

[neat skiff]

Or just wait for all the horrible choices the devs made to be reverted

[cunning river]

It's surprising how scuffed this game is the moment you look at it a little more in depth

[full finch]

remember that supporters don't leave behind equipment
so you can retreat them

[scarlet ledge]

wtf sss exist

[full finch]

unless you're using a supporter to preserve a ranged stack for some reason

[neat skiff]

Exclusive sourse of module materials.

[scarlet ledge]

idk i just buy module mats on event shop

😱

[neat skiff]

People cannot ignore the horrid game mode.

[full finch]

dunno
I've been ignoring it pretty successfully

[neat skiff]

Enjoy your 3 modules.

[scarlet ledge]

idk i been doing pretty good

im not the giy doing all modules

[neat skiff]

Out of 28 archetypes.

[scarlet ledge]

[full finch]

most of the units I use either don't have modules, or already are moduled

[neat skiff]

Scum.

[full finch]

wtf rude

[scarlet ledge]

i only do the useful one

even on my cn

i just buy my module mats on event shop

[neat skiff]

This is a chat whose purpose is to help new players.

[full finch]

why are you insulting someone for disagreeing with you

[scarlet ledge]

not worth suffering getting module mats on sss

if u care sss module mats

just do floor 6

repeat

[neat skiff]

Xoll, because this.

[storm current]

i mean

in term of EN

theres very few module worth doing

and most people just stop at mod2/1

[full finch]

it's not like there's anyone asking a question
and they're not exactly wrong either

[storm current]

but ye im gated by block now

[neat skiff]

The devs nerfed the shit out of the game mode since floor 4 was too much of a challenge.

[full finch]

???

[lethal dragon]

Toron 7 is the most annoying one

[full finch]

never heard of anyone having trouble with floor 4

only 6/7/8

[scarlet ledge]

@lethal dragon imagine not playing sss

i didnt play it

i just buy them event shop

[neat skiff]

1650% hp, 500% atk 500% def > 500% hp, 100% atk 100% def.

[scarlet ledge]

7/8 is just annoying

[full finch]

real

[lethal dragon]

Wtf why do you have so many 🐳

[storm current]

floor 8 toron is easy tho

[scarlet ledge]

floor 8 is ez

[storm current]

floor 6 and 7 are pepeg

[scarlet ledge]

^

[lethal dragon]

7 makes me go reee

[scarlet ledge]

ngl i havent touch my sss for months

its just not worth it

[lethal dragon]

6 has a perfect Irene tile so it rocks

i actually kinda enjoy SSS

[scarlet ledge]

even on my acc yknow

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/681457033047703553.png

[scarlet ledge]

when old sss run

i just ignore it until reworked came

[full finch]

SSS would be more fun if it wasn't such a pain in the ass to do

[scarlet ledge]

reowkred is more fun

[drifting agate]

Just make all vanguards innate on start

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[neat skiff]

Nothing quite like high end players bitching about the nerf while people come in whose only goal is unlocking floor 8 on something to get the B stuff.

[full finch]

there's nobody here

[scarlet ledge]

[neat skiff]

Alongside the devs having player stats and deciding a 70%+ nerf is warranted.

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/706565787229356103.png

[drifting agate]

Or just straight turn it into slay the spire, lemme exhaust myrtle to double my DP regen or something

[lethal dragon]

Leite is kaze from kazemaru?

[neat skiff]

hp reduced by 67%, atk/def reduced by 80%

[limpid siren]

Khold it might be worth taking a break for now

[scarlet ledge]

yes

[lethal dragon]

Oh I am missing her too her maid skin is so cute

Kaze aurora quercus

[scarlet ledge]

abd i havent get her on fia banner since 5★ rate up is a lie

[lethal dragon]

😭

I didn't get quercus on GG banner became skyfire was a thing

[scarlet ledge]

i might finish my h stage on jp

[lethal dragon]

I need to do chapter 9 h stages

[scarlet ledge]

oh

h9-6 fun

[neat skiff]

It is.

[storm current]

meanwhile h8-4 and h10-3

[scarlet ledge]

ngl h10-3

i kinda like it

[lethal dragon]

Maybe I wait for Texas event and do abyssal hunters only run?

[scarlet ledge]

[storm current]

h7-4 wasnt that bad either

h6-4 was a bitch

[scarlet ledge]

h7-4 is cakewalk

h6-4 is fuuuuuun

[lethal dragon]

H10-3 was so fun ngl

I didn't know back then that you can permanently stall boss

[scarlet ledge]

abd

i just brainded jt

[lethal dragon]

I wonder if skadi + gladiia can work

[scarlet ledge]

grab kal support

then use my fartooth

melted phase 1/2

[neat skiff]

H10-3 wasn't as fun as H9-6

[scarlet ledge]

[lethal dragon]

Ugh I don't like mandra but I haven't cleared it yet so can't say much

[scarlet ledge]

enemy waves is pain

mandra is ok

[lethal dragon]

What's the enemy count

[scarlet ledge]

yes

[lethal dragon]

Isee

[neat skiff]

The challenge of H9-6 was managing over 100 enemies where up to 4 waves of enemies would appear depending on the stage of the boss.

[scarlet ledge]

just magine h6-4 in steroid @lethal dragon

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/829352003255795774.png

[scarlet ledge]

[neat skiff]

H10-3 was "deploy at the beginning and depending on who you have raised you can probably just afk."

[lethal dragon]

Lol

More or less

[neat skiff]

H9-6 gives no such luxury.

[scarlet ledge]

meanwhile h8-4

[neat skiff]

You pay attention after enemy 30 or so.

[scarlet ledge]

fuck civilians

[lethal dragon]

I only cleared it recently

[neat skiff]

I absolutely despise that stage for "do you own A, B, C, D ops with only op C raised? you win."

Only have one of those, ha ha go fuck yourself.

[lethal dragon]

Lmao

[radiant plinth]

h8-4 easier than h8-3

[scarlet ledge]

what h8-3?

i forgot

[lethal dragon]

Bird?

[radiant plinth]

💀

[scarlet ledge]

oh birb kek

[radiant plinth]

h8-4 can be e0'd

h8-3 cannot

yet

[neat skiff]

Not even a joke btw. "Do you own a E0L1 phalanx caster and can borrow a E2 SL7 Nightingale? congrats 3 out of 4 lanes are perfectly defended.

[scarlet ledge]

still on grind?

how progress

[radiant plinth]

just bird left

30% hp

[scarlet ledge]

[neat skiff]

They're in a bitter embattlement with the 3 star players.

[radiant plinth]

if 3* can do it so can we

copium

[neat skiff]

Which only highlights the divide of this channel sometimes.

[radiant plinth]

the fact that bug 3 is basically confirmed to be needed

makes me

very very scared

[neat skiff]

"Hi, been playing for 1.5 weeks and having issues on chapter 2."
"Here is the answer if you heavily handicap yourself and can time down to 3 fps."

I am so super glad it has eased up, even if we still have to ask for "sort by level, turn off favourites, give us 1-2 screenshots"

[waxen swan]

And show us ur home address

[neat skiff]

17 racist stereotype way, Finding Nemo St, Sydney or some shit, a street in Melbourne.

Finding nemo was Sydney right? I don’t remember,

[storm current]

yes

[lethal dragon]

@scarlet ledge nice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/941440377104269443/CC0EEAC7-9802-4013-9046-9D856125598D.gif

[scarlet ledge]

[limpid siren]

ah yes

the funny sesa gif

[neat skiff]

Nothing quite like using him in the literal worst way possible.

[latent halo]

What's the map's name

[scarlet ledge]

its cc daily

i forgo

[latent halo]

U can pretty much ask ppl who send the gif

And none of them could tell the map's name

[limpid siren]

barren plaza, isn't it?

[latent halo]

Training ground 01 - barren plaza

Ya

[limpid siren]

💪

old daily

[sharp mango]

Beta daily

[latent halo]

Dogs

[storm current]

OG remember the beehunter start

[sharp mango]

Caster

[neat skiff]

"This op gives global physical "not fragile" that stacks with fragile against blocked enemies.
Lets show him against unblocked enemies with bonus movement speed.

[storm current]

btw

that is not bonus movementspeed

or wait is it

[neat skiff]

It is.

It's a low bonus move speed, but they're sped up.

[storm current]

i remember that enemies only need like 1 speed to outrun his bomb

[neat skiff]

1.1 speed.

Correction, 1.01+ speed. 1 speed means they still get hit.

[molten swan]

Sheew

[whole crater]

Horny

[mellow axle]

Thanks for the info about resistance silnce! it helps a lot i finally done it lol

it needs a lot of stalling and using red tho. but she save my life alot

[neat skiff]

A) Congrats!
B) Resistance and silence are 2 different things XD

[mellow axle]

Nah i mean silencing the resistance TT

[neat skiff]

Like 85% congrats.

Oh that, at which point 99% congrats.

[mellow axle]

wheres the 15 tho xD?

[neat skiff]

1% me being a nit pickey asshole.

[mellow axle]

understandable have a nice day🤝

[neat skiff]

Me forgetting that chapter 9 resistance and resist are different.

Just found your squad. Holy shitballs congratulations.

Y'all check this out.

[storm current]

wait until

he see chapter 10

[neat skiff]

Gurl, we have dealt with Muffin. It has desensitised a lot of the regulars.

Not to mention how many of us are ready for chapter 11.

Especially with the messed up timeline throwing a socket wrench into things.

[storm current]

i wont lie

hes certainly a good player to be able to clear 9-19 with that roster

unlike

80% of the playerbase

[neat skiff]

Yup, welcome to the game mechanic equivalent of the 1%

Combined with those of us who want to help but are unoriginal.

"I looked up 7 guides for this 1 stage and can figure out a strat for almost any squad but get shit on"

[storm current]

he actually manage to clear it with barely any instruction

meanwhile

uh

[raw osprey]

Aye ppl, does e1 50 Meteor enough for bottom tile for anni3 or i need e1 60?

[latent monolith]

Is meteor your best option?

[neat skiff]

Meteor and Meteorite are 2 different operators.

[raw osprey]

Yeah, alongside Kroos for top tile.

[latent monolith]

It should probably be fine

[storm current]

uh

it should work

actually no

you will need someone to block her

else she will die

she should be able to deal with the drone

[raw osprey]

I will use something like that, although Shaw need e1

[storm current]

uh

if your ST medic is hibiscus

it wont be easy

[raw osprey]

Maybe for first run i will get something from supports, i think Thorns should be best option.

[storm current]

you should be able to do it with ifrit borrow

or thorns

but ye medic issue

[neat skiff]

Shaw SL1 vs SL7

[storm current]

shaw need sl7 ye

[raw osprey]

Yeah sl7 s2

[storm current]

since uh S2 need +1 force

[neat skiff]

That is Kyo Ange strat.

[storm current]

do you only have hibiscus as medic

[raw osprey]

Not exactly, coz my Angeis only m1 on s3. But something close 🙂🙂

[raw osprey]

I have Gavial

[storm current]

do you happen to have sussuro

[neat skiff]

You’re also 75 levels low on ange.

Along with Shaw being push force 0 or 1 instead of the mandatory 2.

[raw osprey]

Nop, i haven't pulled from any banner except standard yet. Saving for Dorothy and Texalter 😍

[storm current]

it will be a little tough

but ye you should try 400 for first clears

then onto the rotation maps

[neat skiff]

As a Dorothy fanboy, only get her pot 1.

[raw osprey]

Yeah, i believe one 400 enough for now for me.

[neat skiff]

Her archetype wants a LOT of investment.

[raw osprey]

Yeah, only pot one and that's it. All leftovers for safety Tex banner.

What was that

[neat skiff]

Trapmasters can be a lot of fun but they don’t do shit except for CC until you invest a lot into them.

[neat skiff]

And I say this with an M6 Robin.

[limpid siren]

Dorothy has a much higher ceiling than Robin at least

[raw osprey]

Ye, i actually plan to so like that: i will e2 Specter, then until next event i will try to e2 Lapp, coz I'm still in chapter 7 and don't need Amiya e2 for now. During event i will e2 m3 Dorothy.

[arctic tangle]

I need help at jt8-3 I've been at it for an hour and a half

[raw osprey]

And then i will have a lof of fun with Patriot

[neat skiff]

Squad?

[lethal dragon]

Dorothy is fun yep

[neat skiff]

Dorothy is fun, she is not good.

[lethal dragon]

Not bad either

She is fine

[neat skiff]

What she does with 1 trap that takes 12 seconds at M3 other ops do in 1.3 seconds with an auto.

I love the archetype. I am pulling for her above Mlynar and Texalter. But I also have the squad that has the dps to ignore those ops.

All I can do is ask you to only pull one of her and then save for Texalter at least.

[raw osprey]

Okey ppl, thanks for your answers i will try anni3 this Sunday and share my results.

[raw osprey]

That's the plan 👆👆

[neat skiff]

Also, anni 3 is going to suck with your ops.

[neat skiff]

Do you want an auto?

[loud shell]

do bard supporters still buff ops when stunned

[opal kiln]

yea

[loud shell]

yo

[opal kiln]

which is why skalter is the best stun sniper bait

[loud shell]

tjats amazing

tahnsk

[arctic tangle]

Idk anything that works is fine for me

[neat skiff]

Can you auto 4-4?

[arctic tangle]

Yes

[limpid siren]

[neat skiff]

Borrow Nightingale. SL7 works but M3 is slightly easier. Especially if you bring Ptilopsis and deploy her.

[arctic tangle]

Should i e2 my ptilopsis tho?

[molten swan]

Ptilo+skalt should outheal

Easily

[neat skiff]

That depends. Do you own Mint, Beeswax and/or Carnelian?

[molten swan]

The inspire helps her healing by a lot

[arctic tangle]

Yes but they're not leveled

[neat skiff]

Does not matter.

[molten swan]

I’d rather you borrow better st medics like whisperain s2 or lumen s1 and stuff

Skalt ptilo can already deal with fireballs

[neat skiff]

E0L1 with skill not activated and inside Nightingale S3 will be fine.

[arctic tangle]

Where do you recommend me placing them? The middle?

[neat skiff]

To block fireballs from people you want to protect.

[molten swan]

On another note

Do you have heavyrain

[neat skiff]

The fireballs deal arts damage. Phalanx casters have 35 res at base.

[arctic tangle]

No

[neat skiff]

With skill not active that is.

With a borrowed Nightingale they have either 45 or 47 RES.

[storm current]

If you use a m3 NG instead of SL7

[molten swan]

Aight

[storm current]

You dont need someone else tp block her i guess

[neat skiff]

You do.

[storm current]

But uh prob not an issue for jt8-3 due to deployment

Iirc

[neat skiff]

Either an operator or cage.

[storm current]

Mod1 M3 NG has like whay

58 res?

[neat skiff]

Ng will not survive 8 fireballs on her own without godly luck dodging 6 fireballs.

[storm current]

Sl7 modless NG has 41 res

With mod is 51

With m3 however is 63

[arctic tangle]

I have a general idea and plan now ty everyone

[storm current]

Also

Pot4 NG has 87/88 res

Quite funny amount

Wait pot5 give more res too

92 res on max pot

Lmao

[neat skiff]

Welcome to being vague sorry.

[latent monolith]

Anyone with 25 res gets to 100 with NG S3M3

Like E2 czerny

[neat skiff]

S1M3 Czerny.

And he is not 100 RES, he is 150 RES but only 95 counts.

[latent monolith]

Not needed with NG

[storm current]

Iirc

[neat skiff]

Same as Matterhorn with T3 Module sadly.

[storm current]

Scene m3 doesnt need any replacement and can tank all 10 fireballs on H8-4 iirc

[latent monolith]

Czerny E2 is 15 res from archetype + 10 from talent

+15 from NG talent = 40 total

With S3M3 NG that's 100

[neat skiff]

You don't math often do you.

[latent monolith]

am I missing something

[storm current]

Fortunately talulah doesnt ignore res like cc3 grudge bearer

[latent monolith]

15 res on E2 + 10 res on talent + 15 res on NG talent = 40
40 + 150% of 40 (S3M3 NG) = 40 + 60 = 100 res
Where is it wrong

[neat skiff]

It's wrong in that I might alzheimers.

[supple widget]

Alright how tf

I try to kill the ads first or ss first either way my ops get overwhelmed

[neat skiff]

That stage is an exercise in "who do you have raised" and "what is your deploy order"?

[supple widget]

So I've noticed

I have wasted in game and irl sanity

[neat skiff]

Those floor defense tiles, pure newb traps.

[molten swan]

E1 surtr 💀

Dont do that

Borrow ntrk

[supple widget]

Ntrk?

[neat skiff]

How the fuck can they not. Zero E2.

[molten swan]

Like I said

[neat skiff]

Like, this is fucking easy mode.

[molten swan]

E1 nearl kicks her ass

[neat skiff]

They have a variety of competent operators leveled.

[storm current]

Btw

If you want to borrow

Pluma s1 can afk thst

[molten swan]

They are borrowing

[neat skiff]

La Pluma. Guard.

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1074031781407379546/image.png

[neat skiff]

Most people S1M3 her despite S2 being higher dps. So much easier to use her archetype.

[molten swan]

Wonder why

As if s1m3 is comfy as hell to use with a relatively high floor

[neat skiff]

Think of all the reasons you openly hate me sometimes.

[storm current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1074036525181980702/image.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669489344658014208/1074036525769179176/image.png

Even weaker unit now

Mine is afk

Better than your nearl strat

[molten swan]

Simply incredible

[supple widget]

I can post a ss of my ops to see who I need to raise if that helps

[storm current]

Uh no need if you want to borrow

[shell arch]

Anyone that has access to viktor could do me a favor to check gg s3m3 between fullstack sniperA and 4sniperA & 1vg/casterA difference?

[storm current]

Uh

[molten swan]

Uh

35 sp cost wasnt it

[neat skiff]

Have you set up a is google translating the whole ordeal ok?

[storm current]

4 sniper 1 caster is 4% dps better

[supple widget]

Alright I'll borrow a pluma ty for the advice

[storm current]

And better cycle

She only need 3 sniper for perma slow iirc

[molten swan]

Realistically decreases the skill cycle to 30/30

[stark canopy]

H6-4 is such a stupid level

[shell arch]

Sir i can't open viktor. I don't have a pc and my phonetato doesn't support viktor

[storm current]

Actually

3 sniper + 2 caster is 8% better than 5 sniper too

[neat skiff]

Welcome to me being incoherent. Is the whole ordeal google translated ok?

I'm deep into 2 documentaries calling into question 14 years of training.

[storm current]

5 sniper is 300% dps increase (300 × 100%)
4 sniper 1 caster is 312% dps increase (260 × 120%)
3 sniper 2 caster is 308% (220 ×140%)

Wait

Ye

1 caster is a bit better

But cycle worse

[neat skiff]

Whatever nonsense this is.

[storm current]

Uh

Stacking difference

[soft crystal]

2 caster better just cause better cycling

[molten swan]

Theres the cycling that’s taken into account

[storm current]

3 caster is 288%

So its a bigger trade off

[shell arch]

I don't understand your question. My Google translate has been stopped updating (and even said google newest app is not supported on your device, chrome too) so i can't relate

Man i just want to ask difference between gg sss stacks, not google bullshit

I can't open viktor. That's it. Shrimple

I just want someone to do me a favor and check it for me

[storm current]

Neither can i

I just manual maths

[neat skiff]

I'm lazy, kind of drunk and I want to know how much google translate mistranslation I will need to go through.

[shell arch]

Then why are you here?

[neat skiff]

Right now, none thank fuck.

[shell arch]

Strategy is part of help category

If you don't know or just lazy to do it, just do nothing about it

[neat skiff]

I was willing to go through the whole unpleasant ordeal.

[soft crystal]

2 caster gg takes approx 21 seconds to cycle back i think

[neat skiff]

Top can't even open a site I not only have full access to but google isn't throwing a shit fit my way.

[shell arch]

I guess it's my fault to blame a clown for acting like a clown in a circus

[shell arch]

Yeah but i was wondering whether you said about gg yesterday is true or not

[neat skiff]

You're the one who asked for help and are now calling me out for offering you help, asking for clarification and then finding relief you found the info.

[soft crystal]

Yeah ofc im right

And also im right about chalter being stinky

Worst 6 star

[shell arch]

I guess I'll just take what refia say, thanks

[grave talon]

is ptilo's passive good? like, does it make that much of a difference in your gameplay?

[neat skiff]

.

[soft crystal]

If you want true dps its gonna be caster b x2 sniper a x3

Cycling shit tho

[neat skiff]

That highly depends on your operators and their skills.

I have been screamed at that I am shit for using Ptil in a 26 minute annihilation with Eyjafjalla S2, W S2, Platinum S2 and 2 medic S1 skils.

[shell arch]

+0.15 sp (e1) or +0.3 sp (e2) are nice. People sometimes overvalued it too much

Ptilo comes with s2 that has rapid aspd and solid hp/s which is good, but not worth mastery atm

[neat skiff]

People overvalued it before chapter 6.

That was 3 years ago.

Even in Global, it was 3 years ago.

[shell arch]

I stopped using ptilopsis ever since my ng is e2. It's nice, but just don't overvalue her talent. She's a solid medic

[glass monolith]

I didn't bother to start using NG because I have Ptilo

[storm current]

You mainly use ptilo for her cracked ass healing power

[neat skiff]

Same.

I still use Ptilo more than NG, especialy with both NG and Ptil modulles.

[glass monolith]

Need to NG module at some point

This extra tile is good shit

[neat skiff]

That extra tile is a damn livesaver and i wish Perfumer got it.

Like you think you might use it once or twice but you use it a lot more than you ever think you will.

I used it in CC 10.

Twice.

[glass monolith]

Also DH is my first rerun. Back in my day we didn't had Ling and Chalter sucked to dodge mobs

[shell arch]

Thank you

[storm current]

Uh

You should go for 2 caster 3 sniper

[neat skiff]

Chalter still sucks in her own event,

[molten swan]

Destroyed

[storm current]

1 caster is 27s cycle

[lethal dragon]

I use 2 specialist 2 casters/VG 1 sniper

[molten swan]

That is a heavy understatement

[storm current]

2 caster is 21z

[lethal dragon]

80spd and 4 sp/s

[molten swan]

She sucks against mooks and she pops off against everyone else

[shell arch]

Real?
I don't have problems with her skill cycle, i just want her maximum dmg output

[storm current]

Its a pretty big difference

[molten swan]

Dont think that can be called “bad in her own event”

[storm current]

Its a 1.3% dps difference

[glass monolith]

But entire event is mooks

[storm current]

Not a big deal

She can already perma slow with 3 sniper already

[neat skiff]

I know but I don’t want to be banned.

[molten swan]

[shell arch]

This is between fullstack sniper and 1casterA or 1caster A and 2casterA? Which one has highest dps again just to confirm?

[glass monolith]

What stats you need to Chen and Termos to speedrun DH-9?

[molten swan]

Termos?

[neat skiff]

“Hello person who deals 2 hits of 1600 damage, welcome to 2000 def before modifiers.”

[molten swan]

1.6k is massively low but ok

Go off

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile Mizuki with module tier 2 kind of pops off, kind of still sucks.

[molten swan]

Idk where you even got the 1.6k from to think chalter sucks

[storm current]

5 sniper is a 300% dps multiplier (compare to no stack)
4s1c is 312%
3s2c is 308%
2s3c is 288%(bad)
Mixing in specialist will result in worse dps too, unless you run caster B

[soft crystal]

Well not really bad

Its a better skill cycle

Slightly better

[neat skiff]

Sorry, 1706 per hit.

[storm current]

1c is 27s

[soft crystal]

I honestly just dont think when i stack in sss

[storm current]

2c is 21s

3c is 18s

Not massive difference imo

[shell arch]

Thanks fam, this is what I'm looking for

[neat skiff]

Before white enemies with 2000 def.

[soft crystal]

16% less downtime

12% less dps

[neat skiff]

Physical damage fucking sucks in dossoles.

[glass monolith]

I will bring Kroos alter anyway

[soft crystal]

I honestly just stack at least 1 caster and sniper

[shell arch]

What about mixing casterB now?

[soft crystal]

Then whatever i get i just stack ongg

[storm current]

Uh

[shell arch]

4sniperB 1casterB the best?

[storm current]

Caster B with sniper A is bad

No uptime i guess

[soft crystal]

Caster b x2 and sniper A x 3 is 3.96x

[shell arch]

I wouldn't use casterB so it's okay though, just for curiosity sake

[storm current]

But ideal dps is 3 sniper 2 caster

[molten swan]

Why do I feel like

You forgot

The fucking 1.5x scale

[storm current]

You want 3 sniper for the perma slow

[molten swan]

As well as -220 def

[glass monolith]

5 snipers and 5 caster Sora S2M3 next door

[molten swan]

Who would have thought

[neat skiff]

Chalter is still dealing 5% damage thanks to the minimum thanks to mechanics and not her damage.

[shell arch]

Anyway, thanks fam. Now I'm completely satisfied

[storm current]

Btw

[molten swan]

Lmao kek

[storm current]

Its defense reduction

[molten swan]

Khold forgor 1.5x scale

[storm current]

Not defense ignore

So for stuff like patriot

[molten swan]

Ssg math

[storm current]

It hurt him way more

Its 3 times more effective

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile E0 arts damage dealers deal more damage.

[alpine kite]

Can you explain the difference between the two? I don't get it but want to understand

[molten swan]

Hmm he’s just engulfed in his own world

[neat skiff]

Sky high def, 0 or 20 res.

[molten swan]

Doesnt bother correcting the math

Oh well

[storm current]

For example

Patriot has a defense amount of 2100

But its a math of (500 base def+200inspire effect) ×3 first phase

[molten swan]

Look at me

Tell me

[storm current]

If you have a % defense reduction

[molten swan]

That you calculated chalter’s dmg incorrectly

You know it

I know it

We both know it

[storm current]

You get 2.1k×(1-%def debuff)

[neat skiff]

Nothing quite like E2L90 S3M3 Chalter dealing less damage than Passenger auto attacks.

[storm current]

If you have defense ignore like pinecone or executor

Its 2100-(def ignore)

But for flat def reduction

[molten swan]

Lolicon can you uh

Help me with sth

[neat skiff]

But sure, pop the fuck off about dossoles holiday.

[molten swan]

Khold tells me

[storm current]

Its (500+200-(def reduction))×3

[molten swan]

Chalter’s dmg output is

[storm current]

So its more effective

[molten swan]

1.7k*2 every attack

Can you factcheck it just to decide this shit

[storm current]

Also i didnt play during DH, so

[alpine kite]

@storm current thanks, I understand better

[neat skiff]

Where are you getting x2 from?

[storm current]

Uh

S3 attack twice

[latent monolith]

Hits twice on S3

[storm current]

[molten swan]

…

…….

Go read chalter s3

Calculate the damage

And come back

[neat skiff]

1.7 x 1.5 from talent reduced by defence but hitting twice.

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile those ultra high defence enemies have 0 res so arts auto attacks deal more damage.

[molten swan]

Explain to me what the fuck is this

[neat skiff]

Cool, 599 damage per attack.

[molten swan]

Ok

Reduce it by 220

[storm current]

Uh

[molten swan]

Multiply it by 2

[storm current]

How much def does DH enemy have

2k with no buff?

[molten swan]

1558 damage every hit

[storm current]

The boat?

[molten swan]

On a 2k def boat

Tell me a caster auto does more than 1.558k every hit

[neat skiff]

2k def boat, taking damage from 2 attacks.

[molten swan]

Ok you know what

Khold take a rest be sober

You’re fucking drunk

You said it yourself a while ago and I’ll assume you still are drunk

[neat skiff]

Oofie, you were here for the original dossoles holiday.

[molten swan]

I was

I used chalter without problem

[neat skiff]

You know exactly how much physical damage sucked.

You were here for people bitching that E0L20 Amiya killed faster than E2L90 Exu.

[molten swan]

Physical sucked against 2 enemies

Chalter pierced it

[neat skiff]

Chaltr pierced it, arts damage ignored it entirely.

[molten swan]

And?

2 enemies are different from an entire event

[neat skiff]

We are in a period of people actually raising arts damage operators.

Encourage that, especially with chapter 11 on the horizon.

[latent monolith]

E2 chalter S3M3 vs E1 passenger S2L7 2k def 0 res make of it what you will

[neat skiff]

Chalter has enough raw damage to hurt an enemy. Arts damage ops can completely ignore entire mechanics.

[molten swan]

Wtf is your point

You completely deviated from the original thing

[neat skiff]

Like, people thought Ebenholz was actually somewhat good because the chapter 11 boss was anti-burst but that works perfectly into how Eben and mystic casters work.

[molten swan]

You’re just going on a purposeless rant

Go to sleep

Sober up

[neat skiff]

You're calling me out for the famously anti physical event?

[glass monolith]

Reminder. Event has civilians because fuck you

[neat skiff]

I hate to bring them into this but they posted the math.

[molten swan]

Like I said

Chalter pierces event mechanics

She curb stomps her own events

[neat skiff]

Auto attacks vs skill.

[molten swan]

Ok

Give her stickers from dossoles

[neat skiff]

Or more correctly skill vs auto attacks.

[latent monolith]

Oh wait yeah there are sticker buffs idk what they have

[molten swan]

You’re just nitpicking chalter for falling off against two enemies and use it as a basis to say that she sucks in her own event

You should stop

[glass monolith]

Increased def sticker, degen elemental damage sticker, something atk sticker
WHERE IGNORE DODGE STICKER?

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[neat skiff]

You were here for dossoles.

You yourself suggested using arts because it is easier.

[glass monolith]

Those "just 2 enemies" are on 90% of stages and Chen has only that much ammo

[molten swan]

Huh?

[neat skiff]

Fuck ton of def, zero or little res.

[molten swan]

Are you sure

[scarlet ledge]

what next event? still no annoucnement??

[molten swan]

Those two defender boat mf variants

Are on 90% of the map

[latent monolith]

DH rerun on 28

[molten swan]

Are you sure

[glass monolith]

I talk about dodging fuckers

[scarlet ledge]

oh... dh

[neat skiff]

Announced hours ago. Dossoles holiday rerun.

[glass monolith]

Who will drain your ammo faster than this chat drains your sanity

[molten swan]

Idk man just block

Thats an easy problem to solve

[latent monolith]

Just aak chalter ammo immediately gone

[neat skiff]

If you want Chalter ammo gone have her deal with caster boats.

6 shots for boats, 2 shots for caster.

[scarlet ledge]

i love using carnelian on dh

[supple widget]

Ok so I beat it with la pluma ty again for recommending her

She's a power trip

[storm current]

Man

[neat skiff]

La Pluma is honestly so good.

[storm current]

When will i get pluma tho

Sheesh

[scarlet ledge]

@storm current no

[neat skiff]

I trust you have used S1M3 of her?

[storm current]

for IS ye

but damn

the next banner of her is like

idk

[scarlet ledge]

la pluma?

[neat skiff]

Just be warned.

[storm current]

yes

[scarlet ledge]

i just grab her if im lazy using other guard

[neat skiff]

People will tell you S2 is the only skill worth mastery.

While it is 100% correct it is her highest dps skill. Zero questions asked.

[storm current]

i will cope with the lack of pluma by maxing highmore

[soft crystal]

Is2 lapluma is cool but honestly 6 stars still better in later stages

[storm current]

[neat skiff]

Do not pass on S1M3.

[scarlet ledge]

my la pluma is m6

how about u loli

[storm current]

pot0

i wonder why

ok i checked

[neat skiff]

Dorothy is a couple days away from 8 monthe late.

[storm current]

literally no sign of pluma banner in near future

i have to cope with shop

😔

[neat skiff]

If I could give you 1 of my 3 pots I would.

[storm current]

i guess 2024

[glass monolith]

Cope her not shoperator rateup forever ago

[scarlet ledge]

loli

git lucky

offrate la pluma

[storm current]

wow

thats like

[neat skiff]

But I have 67 pulls for Dorothy.

[scarlet ledge]

[storm current]

one out of hundred

let me count

[scarlet ledge]

i have 2 pulls rn since i sacriiced mine for fia

[neat skiff]

Off rate.

[neat skiff]

Do you enjoy Shirayuki/Meteorite/W ?

[latent monolith]

Just wait for a year and pick her off selector

[scarlet ledge]

bro i have them raised except w since she doesnt exist

[neat skiff]

In that case, fucking nice.

[scarlet ledge]

100 pulls

1 weedy

no w

[neat skiff]

Can we be salty about Weedy for a bit?

[glass monolith]

NL-S-4 cheese kit ready

[storm current]

there are
90 5* in EN
41 non gacha 5* (including r6s and IS)

[proud drift]

300 pulls

[storm current]

so like

[proud drift]

No skalter or W

[storm current]

1 out of 49

[proud drift]

But pot3 spalter and irene

Had to pity skalter tho

[scarlet ledge]

nice

[proud drift]

As much as I love W’s design

[neat skiff]

At least Irene is somewhat competent.

[scarlet ledge]

hi daowpeey

[lost aurora]

uhhh can i ask for help?

[scarlet ledge]

sure?

[proud drift]

Not taking skalter is just stupid and account damage low key

[scarlet ledge]

plus she is bone of fia

[neat skiff]

Which stage?

[storm current]

i think W is pretty eh

shes literally want to kill you

what horny do to a mfs

[neat skiff]

They're deep in conversation so just talk and some of us will respond.

[scarlet ledge]

yes

[proud drift]

I mean, it’s not that bad

Kaltsit exists so she won’t kill you

[shell arch]

W is n*che (deregatory)
This post was made by m6 lvl90 mod3 w haver

[lost aurora]

okey its the event library one

[scarlet ledge]

what name?

[neat skiff]

So an event stage?

[lost aurora]

its 7th one

[storm current]

all you have to do

is post the map

[neat skiff]

Normal or challenge mode?

[storm current]

dont bother with the name

[lost aurora]

normal

[neat skiff]

7

[lost aurora]

okey 👍

[proud drift]

Btw you’re saying W is eh

What about all the surtr simps

[storm current]

literally no one remember names

well

[scarlet ledge]

@neat skiff see, ye pozyless and wless

[storm current]

surtr just hate everything in life

[lost aurora]

i want ash ;-;

[storm current]

some people considered her to be tsundere

but no

she just fucking hate you

[lost aurora]

yes yes yes

[scarlet ledge]

oh tc-7

[storm current]

use casters

you may not need to block the bully at all

[glass monolith]

Kaltsit in nutshell

[proud drift]

W probably more tsundere than surtr

[storm current]

you can use a tank for the drone

but otherwise

go art dmg

[lost aurora]

tuski is changeable and so does durnar

[storm current]

bully has 1k def 30 res btw

[proud drift]

You can block the bully

I did

[storm current]

ok

[proud drift]

Just have a hoshiguma bottom lane

And kill things from left

Before they reach hoshi

[storm current]

only ceobe is the art dmg

[lost aurora]

i dont have that many caster ._.

[proud drift]

Saria+Hoshi should be enough to deal with bullies and lane

What caster do you have instead of tsuki

Or maybe a high level supporter

[neat skiff]

I wouldf honestly suggest looking up guides since this event will not rerun.

[scarlet ledge]

ok based tsuki

[proud drift]

Borrow mountain for top right btw

Mountain solos top right

[lost aurora]

my caster is just this people ._.

[storm current]

gladiia solo top too

quite nice

but i think its low priority

[scarlet ledge]

nice amiya

[storm current]

bully may be a bigger issue

[proud drift]

Ifrit

You can ifrit+ceobe bullies

[neat skiff]

10 hours 15 minutes.

After that the event is closed forever.

[storm current]

uh

isnt it on reset?

so 1h 15m

[scarlet ledge]

u can block bullies

[glass monolith]

Oh right i need to kick AP-5 to buy lore tapes

brb