strategy

[scarlet ledge]

dps him there

[tepid flame]

I know that and i'm trying to abuse that
But its harder to do so when he is in his phase 2

[frigid kite]

Bring someone like 12f, he evades physical by 50/50

So he baits the spear

[tepid flame]

So thats the reason why people also use W in his fight
I know she has a dodge chance after some time after deployment

[frigid kite]

There is also a gimmick trick if you want to know about it

[scarlet ledge]

ye

[tepid flame]

What trick?

[turbid badge]

trick

[frigid kite]

Stall the 18th enemy that spawns and don't kill it until Patriot is completely dead

Enemies are tied to kill to spawn so yeah

It becomes 200% easier

[tepid flame]

Oh right
I remember hearing that when i watched pvp Arknights
When the boss is defeated, and theres at least 1 enemy left from the first wave, then the second wave activates after this 1 enemy is dead

So i just have to block last enemy of the wave by someone like Nearl?

[frigid kite]

Nearl will kill it

Noir corne

[tepid flame]

Alright
Luckly i have him max lvl becouse i wanted orundum

[frigid kite]

🇬 🇱

[cursive wedge]

[tepid flame]

Thanks

[radiant plinth]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hits double bug

forgets kafka for the bajillionth time

cries

[civic nest]

the suffering continues

[modern plover]

Oh well

[scarlet ledge]

rip

[lethal dragon]

My condolences

[pearl musk]

How to do m8 6

[molten swan]

R8-8 moment

[scarlet ledge]

oofie dalao

[sweet flower]

dalao

[frigid kite]

Team

[bitter cargo]

how do 9-12 cm?

the bottom right tile ban and zoomie roomba guys really threw off my groove

[frigid kite]

Team again

Also, if you can't kill them fast enough, try with stun

Or gnosis

Or Erato?

[bitter cargo]

oh yeah gnosis is a thing, thanks

[gray stone]

I hate Toron 6 with my whole fucking body

Even Toron 7 feels better to play

[livid delta]

Shamare + Lappland + Gnosis sweep

[gray stone]

yeah that map is pretty much Suzuran Gnosis to lock shits in place

I took GG S2 5 Sniper so that my DPS doesn't plumet in crucial moments

[livid delta]

5 sniper gg weak

[molten swan]

Sarkaz treaty is a lifesaver

[lethal dragon]

Lol

[molten swan]

(I died)

(Everything in playwright hots hard as hell on hard mode)

[scarlet ledge]

wtf hardmode such a dalao

playwright is very hot alright

[civic nest]

wtf why is oomfie being such a dalao today

[scarlet ledge]

hi feetus

my fia s2m3 soon

[civic nest]

🛐

my fia still s2m1

upgrading tachanka

[fresh copper]

WTF Oomfie is not supposed to be a dalao

The real Oomfie is supposed to be bad

I'm shaking and crying rn

[civic nest]

fr

just don’t let him see these message

[scarlet ledge]

oofie is always dalao

he did risk 36

[supple mountain]

skill issue

[pearl musk]

Huh

[supple mountain]

i have a skill issue and can't clear sn ex 3

[molten swan]

oh that

the "just roadblock the jelly tile"

[latent monolith]

Put roadblock on the red tile, a bunch of melee units (preferably including lappland) on the blue tiles, add a sniper that can hit the bottom left and medic+elemental medic

[sonic willow]

Roadblock top, then have lappland + thorns middle choke

[supple mountain]

what about the guys who come out at the bottom?

cause they kill off my ground ops

[tidal sedge]

Is Chen worth mastering?

[sonic willow]

Idk I never worry about those when I clear that

[scarlet ledge]

s3 sure

[storm current]

Oh its the funny shift map

[latent monolith]

add a sniper that can hit the bottom left

The brand won't spread to those three blue tiles

Since it can't spread through a roadblock, or through the red box

[neat skiff]

Or through stairs which becomes useful later.

And by later I mean anni 16 which uses stairs not taking brand as part of various strats.

[supple mountain]

did it now

[neat skiff]

Noice.

[latent monolith]

Based ambriel enjoyer

[haughty forge]

Where could I find a starter guide?

[sonic willow]

https://i.imgur.com/kZa2sTg.png

[cursive wedge]

[haughty forge]

Thank you!

[tepid flame]

Question to Patriot boss fight
Jetpack guys count as a second wave or not?

[glass monolith]

It is part of second wave

Wave 1 is like 18 or so dudes who spawn at start

[cyan gorge]

They only spawn if you kill all of the first wave

[tepid flame]

Ok
Thanks

I will keep the 18th enemy alive until Patriot ded

And also 12F to dodge the spear and Noir to keep this 18th enemy

Yes?

[turbid badge]

Yes

[tepid flame]

Actually one i hope last question
What would you change in this team on the Patriot fight and what support should i get?

[turbid badge]

i would borrow surtr/ or you can borrow kal

[tepid flame]

What about the team?

[turbid badge]

Loks good

Spalter can handle most enemeis

[tepid flame]

She doesn't have any Masteries so idk

Only character that i have here that has mastared skill is Irene with M1 S3

[turbid badge]

eh its fine tho if spalter cant handle it you can just drop ur other units

plus u have mines

[tepid flame]

Yea

I think of changing Warf for Nightingale to heal Noir and 12F if i need to heal them

Also i would like to hear others opinion

[frigid kite]

You are good

Imo

Support will trivialize it even more btw

Since Surtr can solo it and Kalsit too

No need for preparation or anything

Just put the mines and kill

[turbid badge]

woawa

[frigid kite]

Pro gameplay

[turbid badge]

spear throw messed up pic smh

yeah mines make peatriot a joke

[glass monolith]

At least frame perfect spear looks cool

First time i seen chapter 10 artillery shell i assumed cheap photoshop

[tepid flame]

I see

Thanks for showing me how this should look like

Luckly i have all the characters i need

Btw
When do you kill his first phase?

[lethal dragon]

Can we agree that this stage is the most annoying one

[foggy grove]

Nah i hate the prev stage more

The tumor

[lethal dragon]

Ehh you have a perfect Irene tile there

Smh smh

She nukes everything

[tepid flame]

Ok so i will asume that you need to kill his first phase somewhere here and later nuke him with mines and Surfr

This is one of my most perfect circles btw

[crude ice]

I mean I killed him there and used gladiia to bait like 3 spears and mine+surtr killed him quick

[molten swan]

you only need 3 mines+well-timed surtr to finish first phase

[tepid flame]

Nvm
I killed him in the upper part
Literally above the circle and killed his second phase with 2 mines and Surfr

But thank you all who helped me with this stage
It was a really painful stage to do

Maybe later i will do it with Auto deploy

[burnt pine]

7-18 ?

[tepid flame]

Yes

[burnt pine]

it is painful to set it up but it is actually kinda of a joke
well if u have at least 1 boss killer

[tepid flame]

I had to borrow my friends Surfr

First phase was a joke
Second was painful without Surfr

[burnt pine]

i mean how to figure out how to set it up

[tepid flame]

I did the same as there since i had them both built
I just needed to add Eyja there so i can just delete the large amount of enemies

[vernal lion]

game will end soon

[lethal dragon]

Smh not even 999

[limpid siren]

turn your screen upside down

[vernal lion]

LMAO

[glass monolith]

.... WHERE MASTERY

[vernal lion]

I'm poor

[cyan gorge]

Not M6

[neat skiff]

Imagine giving an artilleryman masteries.

[glass monolith]

It is artilleryWoman

[neat skiff]

Do I really feel like explaining the linguistic history behind the word or just let it slip...

Meh, chat is dead.
If you wanted a "gotcha" then you would use artillerist.
Artilleryman was from the 14th to 15th century.
It is also why "artillerymen" only exists in author fiction because it is not how it works.

The suffix -man meant "person".
The prefixes were- for men and wif- for woman would be gendered.
Like werewolf would be "male wolf" and if you wanted a female version it would be wifwolf.

Artilleryman is gender neutral. Literally "artillery person". Other languages use artillerist and artilleristisch.

[opal kiln]

Ok

[glass monolith]

I love philosophy and linguistic stuff, just produce diploma project out of thin air more efficiently than students

[radiant mesa]

dude you gotta calm down it's funny when you start talking to the brick wall but it doesn't contribute

[neat skiff]

Speaking of brick walls actually that reminds me to put more arts damage in my friend operator borrow slot things.

Support unit. That one.

[sonic willow]

damn never seen prefix wif- used before ever

[neat skiff]

Because it stopped being used late 17th early 18th century.

Closest to it being used in the modern day is wife.

[lethal dragon]

Interesting

[sonic willow]

didn't expect I'd be learning this in AKO

[lethal dragon]

True

[livid delta]

English is trash

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[lethal dragon]

Yep Speak French

[neat skiff]

I will not speak a language where oiseaux is pronounced wazo because you don't actually pronounce a single letter in the word.

[proud drift]

you do pronounce a

and o

[tidal sedge]

HOLY BASED

twenty letter word, word is pronounced differently than all the letters, every letter is silent

[neat skiff]

Even Germans frankenwords are better than "cover one eye and only pronounce the vowels you think you see".

[rough anvil]

English is pretty close though

"Worcestershire" pronounced "Wouster sure" and I'm like ????

[turbid badge]

language moment

[neat skiff]

English is like that because it's 3 languages in a trenchcoat.
French is like that by design.

[neat skiff]

That's like 9th century English.

[tidal sedge]

Gloucestershire is a real place

[neat skiff]

Sorry, not 9th century. 400 BCE.

[dense goblet]

Shouldn't this talk be moved elsewhere?

It's very educational but, I think we should keep this chat to AK strategies and comps

[neat skiff]

Right, back to "who puts masteries on an artilleryman".

[frigid kite]

Not me

[neat skiff]

Like, Meteorite if you're a super early player but that's about it.

[lethal dragon]

If you are a Boomer*

Give me fia I am willing to M6 her 🥹

[opal kiln]

super early
masteries

wait u probably mean old players

wording moment

[neat skiff]

Yup.

Like first couple of month players.

[glass monolith]

I did S3M3 on Fia first, S2M3 as bonus

Waiting for Shoperator Archetto and Archetto module 2 (which i hope will come after DV and first module... Right?) to commit Fia autocannon S2 with Chen Archetto and Quercus S2M3

[neat skiff]

What the firelight casts.

So quite a while away.

What the firelight casts was mid December for CN so with our current almost 7 month delay, (soon to be a proper 7 months with the dead half week after to be continued) then somewhere around mid July would be Archettos second module.

[pallid herald]

Is ethan really necessary for Annihilation 14? Because every mf guide I see uses ethan

[proud drift]

I mean

fiammetta's masteries are well-deserved?

her masteries make her go nuts

[neat skiff]

Ethan is not necessary but his S1 makes the mechanics of the annihilation so much easier.

[pallid herald]

Am I required to e1 60? Or can I just have him sit there to take out the little dudes at like lvl 40 lol

[neat skiff]

The tokens left behind by enemies only take 1 damage from each attack. Ethan S1 is a DoT so each tick of damage takes off 1 hit point.

E0L1 SL1 works.

His level is irrelevant.

[pallid herald]

I see

[neat skiff]

If you have a higher skill level then it is nicer.

But the tokens do not care about how hard you hit, only that you do hit.

1 damage or 1 million damage is irrelevant. 1 attack takes away 1 hit point.

It's why Ethan, Blue Poison and E1 Aosta work so well at token clean up. Multi target arts DoT. Deals with the token spam of some enemies incredibly easily.

Also, it must be skill 1 Ethan. Skill 2 is worthless.

[turbid badge]

ifrit s2

[neat skiff]

Not as consistent as those 3.

Like her S2 is solid B tier and better than most ops. But not A tier.

[full finch]

there are tiers?

[neat skiff]

At dealing with tokens?

A) Multi target arts DoT
B) Single target arts DoT or multi target arts DoT without full uptime
C) Multi hit physical or arts
D) Almost everyone else
E) Mystic casters

[proud drift]

where S tier

[glass monolith]

SSS tier - Fire Whistle

And smell of napalm

[proud drift]

and since there's an E tier for mystic casters

I have an F tier

for ambriel

[glass monolith]

Ambriel chapter 7:
Ambriel chapter 10:

[neat skiff]

Firewhistle is B tier at best. Worse uptime on her DoT than Ifrit.

S tier would be Ethan and E1 Aosta leaving Blue Poison as the only A tier.

Ambriel attacking outside her range would be E tier alongside mystic casters. Same attack interval.

[full finch]

beehunter tho

S2 goes brr

[neat skiff]

1/3 uptime S2M3, 1/4 uptime S2L7.

[full finch]

0.3s interval

[neat skiff]

Goes right back to that uptime. Which is why she was not mentioned at all when the event was current.

[full finch]

works fine for killing lamp spawns

or mirrors

[proud drift]

ambriel attack range does not impact her damage to tokens tho

[neat skiff]

It's the attack interval...

She goes from 2.7 interval to 3.

[scarlet ledge]

new auto on weird acc

[burnt pine]

man i was watching a jt 8-3 guide
am i supposed to do that ?

[neat skiff]

Mostly depends on your squad. Some ops make it easier than others.

jt 8-3 is right at the very end of a big 5 chapter storyline. Each chapter got progressively harder. Expect it to be hard.

Chapter 13 will be roughly the same.

If chapters 9, 10 and 11 are anything to go by then 13 might be harder.

[civic nest]

2 frd make the stage alot easier

[stiff coral]

Leak talulah
Just do the usual stage killing mobs
Bring guardmiya
Free secret ending and forget about it until nightgale e2 with ptilo

[proud drift]

talulah leak is not a secret ending

[scarlet ledge]

insane

[proud drift]

[scarlet ledge]

hi dswoey

[proud drift]

hi kazeless

[civic nest]

leak talulah 😂

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye feetus

[civic nest]

nice advice

[scarlet ledge]

made new auro for 10-6

[civic nest]

🛐

[scarlet ledge]

si ican trust farm sesa

[stiff coral]

Guardmiya is the secret

Just clear not 3* rating

[proud drift]

why?

[stiff coral]

[random light]

But you need to deploy guardmiya

[frigid kite]

@scarlet ledge do thou have Kalsit?

[scarlet ledge]

ye on my alt acc

why?

[civic nest]

talking abt secret ending i haven’t done the shield guard dude protect ending

i forgor

[scarlet ledge]

feetus

i havent tocuh jt8-2 on alt acc

sinxe raisinf amiya is cringe

👍

[frigid kite]

Ah nothing I missread something

[civic nest]

fr

[scarlet ledge]

i still need 7 rocks for e2 sesa

fucker eat rock

[civic nest]

e2 sesa>e2 amiya

[scarlet ledge]

i still nred to e2 croiss thete

i frogot

[civic nest]

are u typing with one hand or smth

[scarlet ledge]

no

😱

[civic nest]

♿

[scarlet ledge]

wtf

[civic nest]

i regret s1m3 guardmiya just for r30 cc9

[scarlet ledge]

bruh

i only did r26 on cc9

[neat skiff]

Speaking of. How much are y'all buying into the speculation that CC12 is CC beta 2.0 ?

6500 atk 100k hp hateful weebs and all.

[latent halo]

Idk man , the weebs r weak

Unless they make it weight +2 and immune to every cc

Else it just CC fes

Almost 3 years after ccb

We have a kinds of cc

Even weedy s1 can pretty much do semi perma stall

F2 and stuns

[scarlet ledge]

cloud

[latent halo]

Leiti

[scarlet ledge]

Break the ice enemy ft chp8 enemy cc

😱

[storm current]

i dont think you can stall high apsd enemies with weed

[civic nest]

we haven’t got any info on cc12 outside of the icon right?

[storm current]

they can just add every cancerous aspect of older CC too

[civic nest]

every mechanic at once

[latent halo]

We push them away

[storm current]

i mean

[scarlet ledge]

i love when cc have 2 block enemy

[latent halo]

Weebs r light

[scarlet ledge]

[storm current]

in CC2

[latent halo]

They have weight +1

[storm current]

we were able to do it because of liskarm charge

if not then weedy s3 is like 30s cooldown

[latent halo]

The risk have + weight

[scarlet ledge]

cloudless

[latent halo]

Leiti

[scarlet ledge]

enemy 2 block have increase aspd

[latent halo]

Just give us -2 block

Done

[scarlet ledge]

oh ye ursus fat crossbow

i hope they add it

[latent halo]

Emergency accident moment

[scarlet ledge]

u love it when they do big damage

at half hp

[latent halo]

Oh u mean the ranged weeb

Ye

[scarlet ledge]

now add risk

red of them is already a pain

[storm current]

you know

ursus crossbow are just range weeb

but those have 1 tile radius so not as bad

just give them more range

[scarlet ledge]

insane

[latent halo]

They weak to arts right

[storm current]

no

they have both high def and res

800 def 50 res iirc

lol

[latent halo]

800 def and 50 res is not that bad

We're alr used to 90 res

[storm current]

that is before risk

[latent halo]

Low interv means ntr

Give us the walking ball

That have 2k defense and 80 res

In OD

[storm current]

oh shit

[scarlet ledge]

cloud

[storm current]

the can just give us the UFO

[scarlet ledge]

atk+ risk

[storm current]

[scarlet ledge]

[storm current]

actually

just give us iceweeb and range weeb

on the same map

chapter 6 + 8 theme

[latent halo]

Give them movement speed +200%

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[latent halo]

Speed weeb

[storm current]

you know

the appearance of FN or talulah in CC

would be terrifying

[civic nest]

fireball in cc would fucking haunt me

[latent halo]

Fn is ok ,unless u increase her ice Nova radius

Then its not

Image fn do 4 tile radius

[proud drift]

ice towers +1 tile radius

[cyan gorge]

Pozy turret will probably still delete her

[frigid kite]

Frostnova global to counter Thorns' module

[latent halo]

What's thorns module

[neat skiff]

Doesn't have one yet.

[proud drift]

it's gonna be poopoo anyways

• dot damage

[scarlet ledge]

thorns who

[neat skiff]

The 6 star Frostleaf didn't release with one.

Yeah, while I hope the module is for his second talent, he has 2 talents that are pretty unrelated to his damage.

[proud drift]

actually

I wonder if they would make a talent

that would make a situation where his S2 could be useful

[storm current]

a lot of misoppotunity
they didnt release brawler module on chongyue or phalanx caster for lin

even tho

their archetype are shit af

[frigid kite]

They are running out of archetypes

Eventually

[neat skiff]

They have a long way to go.

[latent halo]

S2 is the general skill

Well the lanehold skill

S3 is when u wan her to do sa thing

[neat skiff]

Thorns S2.

[latent halo]

I think he's talking about qb ?

[frigid kite]

His

He meant thorns s2

[civic nest]

u should read cloudless

[scarlet ledge]

thorns s2 used on maleknight

[latent halo]

Reading in ako

[scarlet ledge]

sometimes

cause s3 sucks

on cc

high risk

[latent halo]

Is overrated

[scarlet ledge]

hi cloud

dalao

[neat skiff]

28/54. 28/56 in CN archetypes have their modules.

[latent halo]

Not dalao , give me ur luck for 4th ending encounter instead

[civic nest]

it is overrated
player just simp for it bcs haha afk skill

[cyan gorge]

Agent module is going to be cracked whenever that happens

[civic nest]

2 dp per attack pls

[scarlet ledge]

feetus

[civic nest]

ded

[scarlet ledge]

ayer > thorns

[civic nest]

midnight literally better and cheaper

[storm current]

imagine

thorns module for + poison DOT

[turbid badge]

does thorns s2 do damage?

[latent halo]

Remove the passive heal condition

[turbid badge]

like actual dps

[latent halo]

Makes thorns good again

[storm current]

lol

[frigid kite]

That sht would be pretty broken

[storm current]

3.5% hps

better mountain real

[neat skiff]

Lolwut

[frigid kite]

But, if you think about it, what if they make the dot deal 500 or 1k arts damage per dot?

[proud drift]

idk if I put thorns a single time in ch10

[neat skiff]

Mountain = 7% of 2745 hp
thorns = 3.5% of 2612 hp

[storm current]

lord module is prob like

change trait restriction to 90% or some shit

absolutely useless for somes

[proud drift]

nah if we're thinking individual then

[neat skiff]

Lord module will be underwhelming due to Thorns and silverAsh.

[proud drift]

lappland remove range restriction

thorns +dot damage

frostleaf idfk what she does even

[latent halo]

Or add more eff to it , when not atking defense +X% and regen hps

[storm current]

eh

[latent halo]

So he powercrept defender with s2

[proud drift]

oh SA exists

[latent halo]

[storm current]

general mod1 will do something generalist

[proud drift]

what is his other nonstealth skill

[storm current]

-rdr cooldown

[neat skiff]

+atk% and redeploy.

[storm current]

and self +atk

[proud drift]

oh so just

[turbid badge]

oh wow nice totally forget his talent benefits him cuz he not attacking

[proud drift]

redeploy module for SA

[turbid badge]

[cyan gorge]

Extra range tile

[storm current]

frostleaf module is prob even more range

sniper range

real

[proud drift]

arene... what would arene be

[signal granite]

Drone

[latent halo]

Ik hg will make lord mod remove the range atk penalty

[neat skiff]

As long as Frostleaf loses the attack interval reduction.

[civic nest]

more damage to drone

[turbid badge]

lul

[latent halo]

It's hg

Trust

[storm current]

no penalty is still useless for the good units

since they already remove them

[latent halo]

No, no , do not question hg

That schwarz redeploy

[scarlet ledge]

thorns extra aspd

[neat skiff]

So these plus 6 star Frostleaf.

[latent halo]

Idek what it do to heavyshooter

[scarlet ledge]

wtf frosrleaf good

[turbid badge]

wow throns s2 is funny

[latent halo]

But hg still gives it redeploy

[proud drift]

who ayerscape

[turbid badge]

uhh

[latent halo]

And I'm not sure what lord needs

[neat skiff]

Yeah, Thorns S2 is surprisingly "not as shit as people say it is".

[turbid badge]

funny chain arts

s1 is just slow and consistent dps his s2 is fun arts damage to every blocked enemy

[latent halo]

All they need was dmg

[signal granite]

Just Thorns S3 cover his S2 light

[storm current]

i mean they also have this so lol

[turbid badge]

yeaa

[latent halo]

Unless they give them atk scale when not blocking

[neat skiff]

Frostleaf, Ayerscarpe and Arene would love no range reduction.
Thorns, SilverAsh and Lappland will get shafted.

[proud drift]

huh why lappdumb

[neat skiff]

Ayer fans would love that though.

[turbid badge]

s2

[cyan gorge]

S2 removes penalty

[proud drift]

idt lappdumb s2 removes range reduction

does it?

[neat skiff]

It's free extra damage for his S2.

[turbid badge]

yea it do

[cyan gorge]

whoops wrong reply

[proud drift]

oh it does remove

the hek

[storm current]

oh ye

another module they can do is increase melee dmg

[turbid badge]

yeahh

sa

[latent halo]

Idk say increase dmg when not blocking

[storm current]

increase dmg for melee attack or some shit

[latent halo]

Most of the time lord aren't blocking anyways

[turbid badge]

idk soundtoo much like instructor

[latent halo]

They kill them before it

[latent halo]

We have aoe sniper and dreadnought

[signal granite]

Later become further increase atk range

[latent halo]

Atk Increase when atk blocked enemy

[storm current]

qiubai module would be interesting tho

since both of her talent will be big upgrade

[proud drift]

idk teta kinda right

[storm current]

unlike the fucking SA thorns

[turbid badge]

huh

[proud drift]

not blocking would just make instructors even more shit

[latent halo]

Not surprised if they did that

[turbid badge]

ohh

yeah ws

[latent halo]

Idk take atk scale when not blocking on lord

[storm current]

reaper would love to get module too

[latent halo]

[storm current]

even more heal per hit

[neat skiff]

Remember that this is now a thing that exists.

[storm current]

i mean

[proud drift]

pluma in cc10/ch10 with module

[storm current]

it has some correlation for musha

[proud drift]

healing 700 per hit

[storm current]

they want to get low but not that low

[turbid badge]

lol

[signal granite]

Hope they change shelter to aspd++

[scarlet ledge]

ayer gaming

[neat skiff]

I can see it being used for juggernaughts tbh.

[latent halo]

Hibiscus is pretty

Nice design

[cyan gorge]

remove the blocking heal restriction

[storm current]

pusher module would be like what

[latent halo]

[storm current]

uh will they copy paste the same one for puller

[scarlet ledge]

kek

[neat skiff]

I hope not, ruins Enforcer S2.

[storm current]

actually that would be bonker for weedy

[latent halo]

Range increase

Better

[proud drift]

huh

wdym

[latent halo]

Now she do a + range

[neat skiff]

Enforcer S2 utilises the fact it does no damage in some strats.

[proud drift]

he could get a unique one

[turbid badge]

oh dam

[proud drift]

blemi's guardian module is different from other guardians

[turbid badge]

the funny nuke strats

[latent monolith]

You could also unequip it if needed

[turbid badge]

and the stall

[latent monolith]

Hung

[neat skiff]

Hung...

[proud drift]

ah

right

he exists

[neat skiff]

And Saria is also getting the module.

Along with an atk and def buff.

[latent halo]

Leiti

I e2'ed Mr nothing

[scarlet ledge]

pog

im still farming for e2 sesa

[cyan gorge]

I still need to E2 mine

[neat skiff]

I can't wait to E2 my Mr. Nothing. Sadly he is in position 4 of who I'll raise next.

[latent monolith]

I don't even have mr nothing

[latent halo]

Soon Ako will be suggesting Mr nothing

Raise him for xxxx

[neat skiff]

Lolno.

[latent monolith]

Both the other merchants are E2

[neat skiff]

If you're raising him to be useful then he would exist as a shitty way to low step deal with lancers.

the whole archetype has surprising bulk and his talent, if given enough time to activate, can heavily cripple lancer damage.

[cyan gorge]

I'm raising him cause birdknights has like no bulk

[latent halo]

I e2'ed nothing so he can recover 3 bar

[signal granite]

Hope it wont have "Breaking News, Mr Nothing is underrated"...

[latent halo]

E1 only recover 2 bar

[latent monolith]

Mee having lee E2 invalidates non 6 star dreadnoughts

[latent halo]

Fck

[latent monolith]

[radiant quartz]

has anyone figured how to do the Annihilation ops for this week or do people just brute force it?

[scarlet ledge]

i e2 ur mom

she cost a lot

[latent halo]

Very polite leiti

[neat skiff]

Like the weekly annihilation stage?

[radiant quartz]

yeah

[neat skiff]

What are your operators?

And do you either have Ethan or 150 red certs?

[cyan gorge]

Brute force with Fia + Ifrit and a ton of pottery killers

[turbid badge]

operator list

[radiant quartz]

uh hold on

[neat skiff]

Sort by level and give us 1-2 screenshots of your highest leveled operators.

[latent halo]

or u can edit 5 SS in 1

[radiant quartz]

yeet. also i have 800+ red certs but no Ethan

[cyan gorge]

I don't think this can even beat anni 3

[radiant quartz]

Rip :(

[turbid badge]

how much time is left?

[neat skiff]

Yeah, this is going to be straight up rough.

[storm current]

siege should help

[radiant quartz]

3 days i think

[storm current]

also

[turbid badge]

ah

[latent monolith]

Having E2 is pretty important at least because it unlocks E2 borrows

[neat skiff]

Week and a bit.

[cyan gorge]

10 days

[turbid badge]

your best options to borrow i think off are
blaze and ifrit

[scarlet ledge]

wwhat anni

mmm

¿

[signal granite]

Check, your Anni 3 done?

[neat skiff]

So, how annihilations work. There is annihilation 1 (Chernobog), annihilation 2 (lungmen outskirts) and annihilation 3 (lungmen downtown) that are always open.

[radiant quartz]

i do not have friends with Blaze/Ifrit :(

[neat skiff]

Every week you will be able to complete several runs to earn orundum (the red currency you use for pulls) up to a cap. On Mondays at 4am in game server time it resets.

[latent halo]

Khold have it

[neat skiff]

No Blaze and my Ifrit is only E2L70.

[latent halo]

That's more than enough for newbie

[cyan gorge]

E270 is more than enough

[neat skiff]

We are currently in anni 14. Anni 4 to 13 rotate in and out.

[cyan gorge]

my E2 25 could do anni 3 and 14

[neat skiff]

Only anni 1, 2, 3 and the newest one drop orundum. The rest you clear once for the rewards and they’re dead to you.

[turbid badge]

too bad their restricted to e1

Hmm

[storm current]

you should try to full clear every anni onc at least

[scarlet ledge]

dalao

[neat skiff]

So you do not need to clear the current anni, you can clear it later.

[scarlet ledge]

e2 25

mine is just e0

[radiant quartz]

i did... farthest i got was 148-

[neat skiff]

But you should try to get a clear on at least annihilation 1 so you can farm it and get your weekly orundum.

[turbid badge]

yeah you could just attempt anni 1

[civic nest]

dalao don’t need ifrit fr

[cyan gorge]

Anni 1 is doable with full E0

[storm current]

uh

[neat skiff]

148 is legit impressive with your squad.

[storm current]

for newbie they should get e1 kroos to borrow something

[latent monolith]

Mine is E2 55

I was going to do S2M1 S3M3 but realised that I don't used S3 so I just S2M3d instead

[signal granite]

Mine S2 remain M1

[neat skiff]

Yeah, I don't use S3 either so just S2M3 and that's it.

[latent monolith]

Wait does ifrit S3 stay up during disarm

[turbid badge]

it should

stuff like saria s3 does too

[neat skiff]

"Set interval attacks" stay active during disarm.

Ifrit S3, Mostima S2 and Hoshiguma S3 all stay active.

[signal granite]

But Hoshi S3 will shutdown by the CC 10 caster

[neat skiff]

Bondage casters are stun, not disarm.

[signal granite]

I see, thanks

[neat skiff]

Disarm is Degenbrecher (break the ice boss) and the axe elite dudes from guiding ahead.

[turbid badge]

oh yeah the axe elite

[neat skiff]

No skills and no autos, can still block enemies.

[storm current]

doesnt sound that bad

basically worse stun

can you resist it tho

[neat skiff]

It's workable.

Nope.

[signal granite]

Can Lumen heal disarm?

[neat skiff]

Resist is stun, chill, freeze, and Talulah burn.

Specifically Talulah burn.

[signal granite]

I think no one use lumen to heal Talulah burn, the charge will gone immediately

[neat skiff]

Correct, they use Whisperain.

[latent halo]

They use s2

[neat skiff]

Nah, S1 is better for Talulah.

[latent halo]

S2 insta cleanse

[neat skiff]

Unless you have S2M1 you might cleanse the person holding the boss and not the 2 targets.

Meanwhile S1 has the constant regen to help him.

[latent halo]

Khold just back from aceship

[neat skiff]

Nah, the wiki. Have it constantly open.

Right next to the warframe wiki.

[latent halo]

Well s2 prio the burn first

No need s2m1

[neat skiff]

Which there can be 3 people burning.

S2L7 only targets 2 people, S2M1 targets 3 people.

[latent halo]

Ik , but healing resist is still there

The burn will end before tal did another cast

[neat skiff]

Yes, at which point just use his S1 since it's easier and has better healing.

[latent halo]

Sure

[neat skiff]

It's why Whisperain was a legit strat for these years.

Constant status resist and bonus regen.

[storm current]

ngl

i wish whisperain has multitarget on s2

[latent halo]

Literally no one knows resist works on tal burn

Before lumen showcase

[neat skiff]

The game literally tells you it does...

[latent halo]

Let's be honest, u found out afterwards

[neat skiff]

Only because the game is an asshole about it and only reveals enemy info after you fight them the first time.

Fortunately the only place it comes into play is the second time you fight her.

[storm current]

i mean

dont expect to first try a boss stage

i doubt anyone win first try on BSL or lucien

unless they were backseated

[neat skiff]

Given the sheer number of views guide makers have...

[latent halo]

[neat skiff]

Keep an eye on Oyukis views sometime. Part of why he doesn't show up in general search is because his videos might get a couple thousand views in the 16 hours before the rest of global gets the content but after those 16 hours views go way up.

The algorithm really doesn't like it.

[latent halo]

Oyuki guide r mostly from cn

[frigid kite]

Wouldn't blame anyways, first time doing a boss after probably 50 tries~ if you are new probably, having in mind how exhausting it can be when you have no idea about the mode etc etc.... (Not including general reasons of watching guides)

[neat skiff]

Have... have you not seen some of his non-guide content. Dude does not hide at all the fact he has a stacked af CN account, a stacked JP account and a guide making JP account.

He plays the events live in CN server while planning out guides then gets everything ready to record, edit and release when it hits global.

[latent halo]

If u know u knows , I'm not gonna continue the topic

It will be going nowhere

[neat skiff]

You're implying he copies strats?

[latent halo]

No event on jp

Dead week

[neat skiff]

Yeah, I have literally zero idea what you're talking about.

[latent halo]

No announcement about maint neither

Where is3

[neat skiff]

Find out when it was released in CN then add 7 months.

since you refuse to answer my question I won't answer yours.

[latent halo]

Even if I answered ur not gonna buy it anyways

Please avoid off topic conversation and keep this area on strats

Got it

[neat skiff]

We know, we're stopping.

[neat skiff]

To answer this I found out after the first stage with her but couldn't utilise it because I kept hearing about how the archetype was basically worthless outside of a high level Thorns and anni 5.

"Yeah, this op makes dealing with her absurd damage so much easier since 50% duration means 1/3 damage"

And thus started my enjoyment of leveling non-meta ops because of niche benefits or because I enjoy them.

[latent halo]

I never noticed that , blaze's burn ends earlier than others , but I thought it was a featuring and ignores it

Ng , brute force and forget the stage is what I do when chpt 8 release

[neat skiff]

People don’t read talents.

[latent halo]

Ik it resist but I don't know tal burn can be halved

[full finch]

isn't that what resist is

[neat skiff]

Yeah, it’s not well advertised, but it is.

[latent halo]

My thoughts there was "it must be lore thing"

We also get amiya class change there

Thought blaze have resistance to burning arts

[livid delta]

I hope we get Juggernaut Amiya next

[neat skiff]

M21 Amiya.

[latent halo]

Bet 99% of the ako-er doesn't know either

Thanks lumen showcase , now we all know

[neat skiff]

The joys of underlined words.

And their inconsistent rules behind them.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Isnt underlined word released only after eunectes event

[latent halo]

Forgor when , but I think it's somewhere dusk event ?

Or ling event ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

well i cleared ch8 with whisperain there

[latent halo]

When underline become a thing

[neat skiff]

It was years before Ling.

[latent halo]

Dusk then

[neat skiff]

Are underlined things really so recent?

[main halo]

That's a lot of damage

[latent halo]

Unleashing ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Talent and bd

[latent halo]

No I mean the +1 +1 +1 +1

[scarlet fulcrum]

[latent halo]

The relic that only good for 2 stages

Idk puppet aoe dot counts or not

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just get survivalist all the time

[latent halo]

[molten swan]

Puppet aoe dot counts for the unleashing yeh

Quite a fun amount of tomfoolery

[cursive wedge]

[storm current]

Unleashing + honey carry hardmode mouthpiece for me

[radiant plinth]

note to self

dont be at 99 dp when trying to do the bug

[molten swan]

Emergency hard mode clutch

[latent monolith]

Is it for timing?

[molten swan]

Yes dp bar is your best friend for timing

Aside from rdp timer

Rdp timer runs in .1 sec increments so it’s not as accurate as dp bar

[turbid badge]

lul

[neat skiff]

Welcome to high end players.

Where "-50% DP generation" is too low and -75% is easier.

[radiant plinth]

-75% makes it really bad

cuz u can only time once every 4f

you need separate lineups for that

at that point redep timers are more useful

0.133s vs 0.1s

if i whiff the bug

i have to do the secondary lineup

which is 10x more annoying

drop him

the moment he looks like this

[neat skiff]

High end players. Especially in strat filled with newbs and noobs where majority of the chat will never encounter situations like that ever.

[radiant plinth]

This stage will be my demise
Leaking until the sunrise
200 hours, and I'm on my last brain cell (last brain cell)
Drops I know when several are
This splitbox is real bizarre
This frame perfect bug is gonna be my star (star, star)

I'd like to make myself believe that I'll get this clear, please
It's hard to hit these tricks when I should really be asleep
But I can't stop until it's all complete (‘til it’s all complete…)

(sing to the tune of fireflies)

[neat skiff]

You're the one bitterly embroiled in a competition with 3 star players.

[frigid kite]

New song?

[latent halo]

Lol u still malding ?

[molten swan]

Yes

[sly pivot]

mald male only playwright hm for me

[latent halo]

How many times did u failed on f5 and f6

It's always either f5 or f6 boss kek

[neat skiff]

Dossoles rerun announced.

Get your arts damage ready.

Defense so high a E0L20 Amiya kills enemies faster than E2L90 Exu.

And yes, I still love that part of this chats history.

Especially since it was still deeply in the “arts is complete trash, only use physical” and Kal was only seen as strong.

[latent monolith]

My surtr is 100% ready

[soft crystal]

What is 2k def to my 4k dph mlynar?

[latent halo]

Why use arts

When u can use pozy fart

[flat sapphire]

Just use water

[neat skiff]

Imagine getting Mlynar before Texalter in a couple months.

[cyan gorge]

My Fia does more damage against high def than my casters

[limpid siren]

People sound so allergic to using arts damage these days

[neat skiff]

Of course they do. Chapter 11 isn't here yet.

Plus chapter 9 was so much more memorable than chapter 10.

[limpid siren]

We just had IC recently, where arts damage was very comfy

[neat skiff]

Arts damage is super comfy. Especially since it's just percentile damage.

80% of my damage is more than 43% of yours.

Though if you want arts then you want some of the 6 star arts ops with inbuilt res shred.

And even then that is not on all stages. Some of the old chapter 9 farm stages needed 0 res shred since it was all high level enemies where only the trash has refraction.

70 res but 1000 hp doesn't mean shit.

[cyan gorge]

it's hard to use arts when your best option is Rockrock

[molten swan]

30%

Oh wait

50

[turbid badge]

rockrock was actually pretty nice on tc-7 cm since the bulldozers that need 3 block they just slowly die since mech accord and arts lul

[molten swan]

The other half is a combination of golem/tricycle fucking me up at f3 and my arrogance thinking I could breeze some emergency stages

[mellow axle]

hey excuse me i wanna ask something, i currently struggling on 9-19 on the right side. can indra hold right side enemy with like W? They're so tanky istg

[civic nest]

indra is such a weird choice but i don’t think so

[mellow axle]

eh is that so

[civic nest]

block 1

[turbid badge]

what level

[civic nest]

no self sustain

[mellow axle]

i have some other

[civic nest]

yea i do think so

[mellow axle]

i havent touched her at all, i might think now is the right time but i guess not

[turbid badge]

itll be hard

oh

oh if not touched than nah

[civic nest]

then don’t touch her

[cunning river]

I'm trying to trial and error CM 8

[mellow axle]

Well then any other suggestion

[civic nest]

show us your roster

[cunning river]

And it sucks how the game really doesn't like you doing that

[cyan gorge]

I was able to hold right side with Kazemaru and Cutter S1 with a medic

[turbid badge]

yeah show roster

[mellow axle]

i just came back playing for like 1 year so my operafor kinda old

[civic nest]

just send it

no worries

[turbid badge]

oou nice sa

[civic nest]

u should raise horn in the near future

[radiant plinth]

SCREAMS IN AGONY

[mellow axle]

u wanna see other like defender or ?

[civic nest]

also frostleaf e2 💀

[mellow axle]

thats was for the meme lol

i kinda meme alot back then

[civic nest]

ic

[mellow axle]

yea just got her a week or so

so any suggestion?

[civic nest]

can’t eyja and a blocker solo right side

[storm current]

uh

[mellow axle]

i cant with sa cus i use him for holding mandra

[cyan gorge]

Astesia and Specter maybe

[storm current]

e1 your base slaves asap

something tell me you havent

[civic nest]

true

[mellow axle]

still leak , maybe i need eyja on higher level? maybe m2 her s2? or what?

[mellow axle]

yea some i havent

still working on my main squad

[neat skiff]

By any chance do you have a krooster?

[mellow axle]

nope

last i played is like mostima first banner. like along time ago

after that i just redownload and never like seriously played, only logged in and then erase the game again

[neat skiff]

Can you please do me a favour. Click off favourites, sort by level and then submit 1-2 screenshots?

[mellow axle]

Okay

[neat skiff]

Makes it a LOT easier to see what we have to work with.

[turbid badge]

wirth

[storm current]

@mellow axle you should be e1 your base slaves before your first e2

[turbid badge]

how r u borrowing

who

[neat skiff]

Ignore this.

[storm current]

each 4* e1 need 34k lmd

[neat skiff]

Base is important. Not as important as getting you actually into the game.

"You love X operator, instead raise a bunch of Y operators you will never use in combat"

[turbid badge]

is mostima mod 3?

[storm current]

oh most already raised

you only miss like a few

[mellow axle]

I can actually borrow thorn but i wanma try using my own first, just to getting my feet back to the game

[topaz knoll]

those Y ops will let u build ur X op wdym

[turbid badge]

ahh icic

[topaz knoll]

without them ur not gonna be building anyone

[mellow axle]

still mod 1 , maybe mod 3 later

[neat skiff]

Your 1st screenshot tells us everything we need to know.

[storm current]

you will be fine with e2 horn next

and eh

for the most part you only need NG e2 for story

but thats it

[mellow axle]

my bad

[neat skiff]

You didn't know.

[mellow axle]

so... who to use again?

[neat skiff]

The way this channel works is we want to look for the easiest solution possible. sorting by rarity makes it harder for us.

[civic nest]

also are u using myrtle s2 or u just put it as default

[storm current]

you can use the general preset of
2 vanguard
2 sniper
2 defender
2 medic
1 art source
1 aoe source
wildcards

[full finch]

what is this

[mellow axle]

Put it at default, Sa too is s2 on default. shouldve changed it :D

[neat skiff]

9-19 help

[storm current]

oh wait

uh

[mellow axle]

sorry i deleted my message accidentaly :")

[civic nest]

lol

[storm current]

do you want to borrow or use the unit you own

[civic nest]

he now just realize

[mellow axle]

my own if could

[neat skiff]

They had issues with right side.

[storm current]

i think SA need like 3 cycle if no pillar

oh i think shamare should help a lot

[full finch]

huh

no good phys damage

💀

[civic nest]

use a frd to set up pillars

[storm current]

basically

[mellow axle]

yea :")

[storm current]

what you want to do

use gravel

[full finch]

wait actually you have lapp

it's fine

[storm current]

do dmg to pillar until they have 1 hp

then when mandragora come in range

[neat skiff]

This stage for those who forget.

[storm current]

use gravel again to knock pillar down to her

[civic nest]

then dps her down

[storm current]

basically dont place your ops adjacent to pillar

[turbid badge]

yeah

[storm current]

because boss will knock it down

[full finch]

idk how you want to handle left
but thorns basically solos it

then you can probably clap the right side minus mandra with lappland + eyja (and a medic)

[lethal dragon]

🛐

[storm current]

you can use any dmg type against mandaragora btw

[mellow axle]

yea im not actually struggling with her, instead im struglling the right side lane

[storm current]

520 def 35 res

[civic nest]

dam u praying on his down fall

[storm current]

uh ye

you can do lapp + eyja i guess

s2

[mellow axle]

i use BP , Nearl and lapp on left

[storm current]

refraction give them 70 res