When are they going to remove Toron and Carrot
#strategy
main solstice
i did both day 1 you can check on salt mines
glass monolith
When are they going to remove Toron and Carrot
You want to play SSS with NL light mechanic with ranged enemies that badly?
neat skiff
If it was easy then the nerfs wouldn’t be nearly as heavy handed. They have the user metrics after all.
main solstice
people just refuse to use supporters with suppA and they think its hard and have a lot of RNG
fierce mauve
It's easy if you have great RNG and most of a very small pool of carries, a few of which aren't even that great outside of this mode
main solstice
It's easy if you have great RNG and most of a very small pool of carries, a few ...
you dont need RNG
glass monolith
i used 7 supporters A my Gnosis was 28th in 28 size deck and i couldn't draw him during wave 1
main solstice
if you have enough supporter on the squad
gray stone
I brought 6 supporters but RNG can still fuck me in the ass
neat skiff
Either way the devs have enough metrics to decide to nerf 1650% hp to 500% hp.
gray stone
Either way the devs have enough metrics to decide to nerf 1650% hp to 500% hp.
Wait what the fuck
What level is that
main solstice
i start with 6 supp and take all of the supps that the game give me after that
and i have never have a problem with RNG
neat skiff
What level is that
If you can't hit fast enough and get level 50. 1650% hp, 500% atk and 500% def.
fierce mauve
You're just a lucky outlier then
main solstice
You're just a lucky outlier then
im not, people just dont know how to play the game mode
neat skiff
It's getting nerfed to 20 stacks and 500% hp, 100% atk and 100% def.
proud drift
I do think having a lot of characters leveled makes it a lot easier to play the gamemode
gray stone
If you can't hit fast enough and get level 50. 1650% hp, 500% atk and 500% def.
How can it get to that level in the first place
main solstice
i could do 100 clears in a row and never lose
neat skiff
How can it get to that level in the first place
By not killing enemies fast enough.
proud drift
I wanna agree with fersangu that it's easy to play it if you know the basics of how to play it
BUT
gray stone
I think by the time it hits 50 the boss already leaked
neat skiff
im not, people just dont know how to play the game mode
CN couldn't play the game mode for months before heavy nerfs.
proud drift
the other issue is having leveled units
it's much much easier to play it for someone with like 30+ units raised to 90
than someone who barely has a full page of e2 40
main solstice
CN couldn't play the game mode for months before heavy nerfs.
CN also have bad player
glass monolith
i could do 100 clears in a row and never lose
And i can suck my own dick because i have only 2 operators who can do damage in this mode and i have average MTG player draw luck
main solstice
it's much much easier to play it for someone with like 30+ units raised to 90
of course
proud drift
btw fers
neat skiff
CN also have bad player
Most of the playerbase are bad players.
proud drift
there's one more thing you should consider
main solstice
its a late game mode
proud drift
people who play the game as seriously (and/or as skilled) as you or other good players
are a minority
neat skiff
Raw levels alone won't help much.
proud drift
only like 5% of the playerbase play the game at a very high skill level
main solstice
people with low amount of e2 should not play the game mode
proud drift
if their goal is to make the game playable for everyone
then they should definitely nerf SSS
main solstice
only like 5% of the playerbase play the game at a very high skill level
the problem is that most people dont want to learn how to play the game i understand that
neat skiff
At least playable for a lot more of the playerbase. Otherwise it's just dead content with a lot of complaints.
proud drift
I mean, there's that
but a lot of people also can't learn even if they tried I feel like
having played MMOs for a very long time, seeing how many bad players there are in other games
main solstice
but as a late game game mode it should be at least a bit hard
proud drift
it sometimes feels like instead of not wanting, people just don't know how to learn it or sth 
neat skiff
* Flashbacks to Muffin *
glass monolith
Fuck give him +55% enemy stacks like IS2 hard mode relic and keep him away from me
molten swan
in all honesty
neat skiff
SSS isn't even that late game. Plus it has module materials tied to the game mode.
main solstice
it sometimes feels like instead of not wanting, people just don't know how to le...
most people just watch guides and never try to think on their own
proud drift
most people just watch guides and never try to think on their own
I mean you don't even need guides imo
molten swan
people don't learn
neat skiff
If it didn't have module materials tied to it then keep it hard.
proud drift
it's just knowing how to learn from mistakes or sth idk
main solstice
people don't trial and error
thats the problem
molten swan
it's a self-enhancing cycle
glass monolith
sss isn't that hard
I agree it is not that hard, but if someone try to prove me it is very easy i am triggered 
main solstice
people want to copy a guide
main solstice
and they cant copy one for SSS
molten swan
the main problem of sss is that it's core gameplay is a fucking card game
neat skiff
thats the problem
The joys of "trial and error" not being fun for all of the playerbase.
molten swan
that's why they'll be bewildered
glass monolith
and they cant copy one for SSS
Challenge accepted, give me Kyo guide 
proud drift
trial and error is fun if done right
storm current
i mean IS is technically hard if you arent used to it
proud drift
I think roguelike games are kind of trial and error and I extremely enjoy them for that aspect
neat skiff
the main problem of sss is that it's core gameplay is a fucking card game
Some people vehemently hate the RNG. Others say there is zero RNG.
storm current
but much like SSS, you dont have to complete everything
sonic willow
people just refuse to use supporters with suppA and they think its hard and have...
I mean, it's a gamemode that's meant to be farmed every 2 weeks
they allowed auto skip annihilation, but replaced it with must pilot + rng gamemode 
storm current
for full reward
molten swan
Some people vehemently hate the RNG. Others say there is zero RNG.
people who hate rng doesn't spam supporters enough
that's entirely their issue
I have done at least 30 runs so far with 4 supporters
proud drift
people who hate rng doesn't spam supporters enough
there's still rng
molten swan
and I can manage myself to get a 5 vg irene 2 minutes into the stage
proud drift
even if you take free plan
glass monolith
Doing 3x Toron LT-5 because fuuuuuuck this LT-6
molten swan
every single time
proud drift
you're forced to take 2 dead weights
after every clear
and you have to pray it's a supporter
neat skiff
Yeah, the dead weights makes it worse.
molten swan
it isn't that worse
main solstice
and you have to pray it's a supporter
start with more supporter
glass monolith
CN has fucking SKIP option carl
sonic willow
CN has fucking SKIP option carl
nani
gray stone
I pray that I don't have to take 5th Sniper that I probably won't need
proud drift
my personal issue is that my roster isn't very leveled and a lot of my leveled units are god-awful for SSS
storm current
yes
main solstice
I start with 7 or 8 suppporters as is
then you are doing something wrong because i start with 6 and RNG its not a problem
storm current
they can choose to pick none
proud drift
my only leveled supporters are orchid, gnosis and ling
sonic willow
they can choose to pick none
wtf 
are we geting that update later
gray stone
they can choose to pick none
Holy fuck I will be saved
neat skiff
they can choose to pick none
Oh my god. A team that doesn't get diluted by trash.
proud drift
my biggest issue is probably not having levels on units that I wouldn't use outside of SSS
molten swan
granted you just need a little rng
main solstice
yes sometimes gg or gnosis will be very late but thats when you need to improvise
molten swan
for the secret medals
gray stone
They can take back the nerfs just let me be able to skip worthless additions to my team
glass monolith
Improvise killing enemy wave with Kroos and Heidi on LT-7?
proud drift
see
neat skiff
But nerfs + no dead weight in the card pool = so much more playable.
proud drift
that's already RNG issue
sonic willow
Improvise killing enemy wave with Kroos and Heidi on LT-7?
pass the sniper/caster stacks to suzuran/gnosis while you shuffle deck
proud drift
instead of 80
storm current
the main change are
starting squad size 14 => 20
8 floor => 6 floor
stat nerf
you get to choose none from drafting
proud drift
also toron's floor 7 is absolute disgusting abomination of a map design
that you can't supporter it
storm current
the 2nd change on reed banner give you more bonus stuff too
neat skiff
Yeah, but you could already have a team built and just abort the mission and retry until your 1-2 carries are already in your hand. Zero supporters needed.
molten swan
I could
proud drift
you HAVE to rush you ground carry
proud drift
nice
civic crown
lucky af
proud drift
now whati f you don't start with flametail and bagpipe
molten swan
top lane is basically sleep
proud drift
not to mention a lot of ppl don't own them
molten swan
now whati f you don't start with flametail and bagpipe
well
civic crown
i just dropped deepcolor and frantically looted for passenger 
molten swan
you roll supporters
or you start with idk
texas
or idk
midnight
lappland
irene
molten swan
you improvise you don't just follow a table
proud drift
and you're now out of DP as you have 3 waves of 3 dogs running through your 2block who struggles to kill
civic crown
if you're bringing midnight, just drop castle instead tbh
civic crown
equally useless
proud drift
no I mean before
civic crown
but infinitely cheaper
proud drift
if you roll supporters
main solstice
you improvise you don't just follow a table
thats the point, you have to improvise but you will never die because of RNG
proud drift
I was doing toron 7 and only way I could beat it is when game finally allowed me to get my 2vg2def mudrock start
proud drift
which took me like 15 restarts
molten swan
you naturally know how to improvise and shit
neat skiff
"Just have a ton of 6 stars and you to can do the game mode that is the exclusive source of module materials you farm every 2 weeks"
gray stone
thats the point, you have to improvise but you will never die because of RNG
You can die because of RNG, picking Supporters reduces the chance of that happening
molten swan
who told you to get to lt-7 just to farm
you can just do lt-4 to lt-5 and restart
over and over
proud drift
well
people want to clear for first time rewards
especially since maps will rotate out eventually
neat skiff
Clear after the nerfs.
proud drift
does the nerf make toron 7 not have a start of 3 waves of 3 dogs
main solstice
You can die because of RNG, picking Supporters reduces the chance of that happen...
i have never died after the first run where i didnt know how the game mode works
molten swan
no
civic crown
that one sounds like a skill issue
proud drift
they'll have 20 less def and 200 less hp sure,
main solstice
no RNG problems
molten swan
it does allow you to start with less shit ops
civic crown
idk how the fuck you're dying to dogs
proud drift
by not having a 6* vanguard?
foggy grove
It's infected dogs
civic crown
the only 6* vanguard i have built is saileach, and she sure as fuck don't deal with dogs
main solstice
the problem is that people who are not yet in late game want a game mode that they can beat all stages easy
civic crown
no, you fucking troglodyte
molten swan
woah
civic crown
i was countering your point
molten swan
uh
civic crown
your incredibly stupid point
neat skiff
the problem is that people who are not yet in late game want a game mode that th...
Not even easy. Just the ability to clear.
civic crown
you implied that it's impossible to kill dogs without a 6* vanguard
molten swan
I sometimes don't even understand the general mindset of guide reliers anymore
they really think
that an entire squad of e1
+e2 carry
proud drift
every time I see you talk indigo it's just you acting like an all-knowing god with retarded statements that have massive ego behind it
civic crown
i stated that saileach is my only 6* vanguard, and i can kill dogs just fine
neat skiff
If the game mode didn't have module materials tied to it then no one would care. You top end players can keep your hard game mode and it's dead content for the majority of the playerbase.
molten swan
and brainless
main solstice
Not even easy. Just the ability to clear.
if you dont have a good amount of e2 you should not be able to clear all SSS stages thats how it is
proud drift
is it so hard to realise
molten swan
they're entirely wrong
proud drift
that if a person brings up 6* vanguards for dog fighting
he doesn't mean saileach
and he means onesl ike bagpipe, siege or flametail?
is it that fucking hard
civic crown
are you...literally illiterate?
do you even know what you typed?
again
i will state this as clearly as possible
proud drift
yes, but I do not know why I keep trying to type to you
civic crown
no, stop typing
gray stone
that if a person brings up 6* vanguards for dog fighting
What is this
gray stone
Reading comprehension man
civic crown
this is a ridiculous statement
neat skiff
Indigo does not have an issue with dogs.
Dswopey is hyperfocused on vanguards.
civic crown
i said that my only 6* vanguard is saileach (who cannot deal with dogs)
and i do not have trouble with the dogs
it is
supple mountain
civic crown
not a difficult statement to comprehend
limpid siren
civic crown
it baffles the mind that you claim I was making stupid statements, my god
supple mountain
quick question which module works best with AH for skadi
neat skiff
Speaking of getting image banned.
molten swan
X
molten swan
you really appreciate a fast redeploy stat monster in AH
civic crown
quick question which module works best with AH for skadi
the sword bag
civic crown
it's the one that boosts AH atk
molten swan
but I digress but has its uses
molten swan
dont even remember lmao
civic crown
neat skiff
Sword bag is for AH. More atk and more Gladiia regen. Also better for Skadi S3.
Ending dream is for non-AH. Faster redeploy. Better for Skadi S2.
To krooster.
X = fast redeploy.
Y = atk/hp.
Wikis don't tell us mod X or Y but Krooster does. So match the icons.
For Skadi if you're getting her modules to actually use her then you're upgrading them.
Like Spalter who is a sidegrade to 5 star Specter without upgraded modules.
lethal dragon
🥹when Texas event I am dying to use my skadi with skalter
Please delay Dorothy further so I can do that
neat skiff
I still want to find the video of Gladiia and skadi 2 opping the Texalter event werewolf boss.
lethal dragon
Probably Reno
molten swan
neat skiff
Yup. Reno. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg73ccRz8BQ
neat skiff
That image doesn't link to the video.
"Trying to find a video"
Finds it
Doesn't post link to said video
They just copied
molten swan
welp bilibili's being dogwater can't watch shit
imma just link it and you guys can see
neat skiff
It's working for me. Also the bilibili uses module X.
gray stone
Which ECU do what again?
middle is more stacks and right is recall
don't know what is left
civic crown
Which ECU do what again?
in order: look at deck, pick up to 2
+2 stack to current op
recall with all stacks
main solstice
Which ECU do what again?
middle is the best
civic crown
middle busted
modern plover
It seems like global gonna have some days off which means get shafted again
vernal lion
yea 1 dead week
neat skiff
Woo, a proper 7 months behind CN.
If this keeps up then either Dorothy might not come or Mlynar might be pushed behind Texalter event.
gray stone
Wait event is ending already?
neat skiff
Yeah. It's only a 1 week thing.
gray stone
Ah, 2 days left
There will be dead days, HG won't do another dead week
neat skiff
You say that...
Global has been reasonably firm about "1 new manner a month" and for Feb it was JO-7.
neat skiff
So plenty of time for a dead week.
main solstice
so 4/5 days of dead week
gray stone
The next event date is D worded
neat skiff
D worded?
gray stone
yeah 28th
main solstice
neat skiff
At least the rerun is like a week i_i
gray stone
so glorified dead week but still a minor event out of the way
modern plover
Imagine not squeezing events like in original sever
main solstice
i dont think you should say datamined stuff here
neat skiff
Depends on the datamine.
modern plover
Cn has dh rerun b4 ic btw
gray stone
We don't have rule 5 over here
But it counts as off-topic
neat skiff
Cn has dh rerun b4 ic btw
Yeah, global currently has a bunch of upcoming events with less tools than CN had.
modern plover
Imagine not sqeezing events like original server
Yes im saying this again
surreal star
We don't have rule 5 over here
But it counts as off-topic
There’s a different rule 5 in #welcome-old 
gray stone
There’s a different rule 5 in <#586503387072167943> <:PtiloThonk:596474482181406...
and i oops 💀
main solstice
and i oops 💀
told you 
modern plover
Pretty sure its dmed or not you "should" expect it
gray stone
Hold up, even in DMs?
modern plover
Dmed in datamined
gray stone
how are they are going to enforce that rule
gray stone
Dmed in datamined
I meant the DMs in that rule
main solstice
Hold up, even in DMs?
no
surreal star
Probably just scare tactics
modern plover
:jerrysurprise:
proud drift
if we wanna go to the maximum length of enforcing, technically all the websites with exact stat numbers are extremely likely datamined stuff
lapis hornet
@mods plz ban this lawbreaker
proud drift
I severely doubt there's a big group of people trying to figure out the exact stats and abilities of every mob in the game
especially when there's knowledge that DUCK LORD has 100 atk
unless there's a unit that does damage based on enemy atk
opal kiln
wdym
they just tested
you put steward and you see how many hits it takes to kill an enemy
and u get the hp
proud drift
neat skiff
if we wanna go to the maximum length of enforcing, technically all the websites ...
There is no likely. They openly say they use a bot to scrape the data.
That however is different from datamining.
modern plover
Oh right time to say this:
CC is dead 🦀
proud drift
is it different?
pretty sure it's not a unique concept to finding new things
it's just getting things directly from the code
or such
neat skiff
Datamining is trawling through the code for things out of place.
Datascraping is knowing exactly where each bit of data is kept and only reading those pieces.
Mining = browsing through the whole grocery store.
Scraping = going straight to the instant noodles, then the energy drinks and then the checkout.
Both are done with the same tools but when talking about things like this the details are what matters.
proud drift
but both are doing the same thing which is going to the grocery store
and I'm p.sure at least most devs and especially companies do not like the process of going to the grocery store, not what you're doing inside it
neat skiff
It's what they do while inside the store and what they leave with is what makes the difference.
neat skiff
Which is why we can freely discuss enemy stats but datamining is banned.
Both use the same initial process but come away with very different things.
We can discuss one but not the other.
proud drift
neat skiff
Or do you want things like "this enemy has 1500 def" banned?
proud drift
I don't, but I wouldn't have been surprised if it was
or rather
one of the reasons it may not be banned
is because it CAN be tested
most ppl just won't go through the process of testing it
and by most I mean 99% of the playerbase at minimum
it's just that it wouldn't surprise me companies wouldn't allow looking up even data for specific enemy stats numbers
neat skiff
Depends on the company.
proud drift
especially considering the hate-boner HG has for showing stats in-game
neat skiff
HG is so far fine with us getting enemy stat numbers.
Since they're always available outside the game in many languages it means they don't need to mess up the aesthetic UI and put dirty things like "useable numbers" in it.
proud drift
idk I'd personally much prefer games having numbers than letters for stats
heck if I know if HP S means 10k hp or 100k hp
or if Res S means 50 res or 90 res
or if def S means 1000 def or 3000 def
storm current
the stat doesnt account for multiphase
so endspeaker end up having D- on everything
neat skiff
Or for stage modifiers.
proud drift
stage modifiers could also have an in-game number
like adding a simple 15% in Imagined text
would make it a lot simpler for everyone playing IS
sure it has D- in phase1
storm current
enemy intel is just what they describe them to give you an understanding of their stat
if they have S def but D res
it mean you use art
if they have A def and A res
neat skiff
The game is in unity. Coding it in wouldn’t be too hard.
storm current
you are likely to be fucked
proud drift
metal crab has B def S res
that means use physical right
well to bad the crab has fucking 500-800 def
so most general physical dealers are actually useless too
neat skiff
Metal crab you read the description and yeet them to hell.
proud drift
they also have more weight btw
I didn't even know weight can increase through that
lethal dragon
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1QW4y1j7QJ
Pretty different strategy
main halo
How would Rosa with 5 snipers perform in SSS? Will she be as good as Irene?
sonic willow
it's just that it wouldn't surprise me companies wouldn't allow looking up even ...
is that even possible
like you are liable for knowing/looking for specific enemy stats
main halo
Why wouldn't they want to show specific stats on a separate website anyway?
I wouldn't want to trouble myself with datamining either
gleaming lodge
How would Rosa with 5 snipers perform in SSS? Will she be as good as Irene?
Maybe you can do something cool with S2 ?
No idea honestly
I would argue ATK stacks would be better
main halo
Yeah Irene doesn't need ATK buff cause her S3 is multi hit
lethal dragon
Yeah Irene doesn't need ATK buff cause her S3 is multi hit
Wdym
You probably even want skalter and shamare
If it's solo Irene dps
sonic willow
Don't you give vanguard A stacks to Irene ?
you can do some guard stacks for more damage
molten swan
and sacrifice my uptime?
hell nah
lethal dragon
Yeah but I prefer sp
gleaming lodge
Yeah I would slap 3 vg A and 2 guard A or something
molten swan
I just go 5 vg and sleep
gleaming lodge
Same as Horn S1
gleaming lodge
Fair enough
lethal dragon
You guys use horn in SSS?
molten swan
ok time to sleep
gleaming lodge
You guys use horn in SSS?
Well, 7k S1 feels pretty good
lethal dragon
I use skalter + Irene + gg
livid delta
5 guard A s2 works pretty well
lethal dragon
Well, 7k S1 feels pretty good
Oo I'll try her
I haven't cleared this reset's rewards yet
main halo
The amount of ranged VGs for Rosa isn't high either
lethal dragon
5 guard A s2 works pretty well
Oo nice idea
main halo
The amount of ranged VGs for Rosa isn't high either
Just Beanstalk and Blacknight
gleaming lodge
The amount of ranged VGs for Rosa isn't high either
You can use caster A
lethal dragon
^
main halo
That's actually sounds better
But I'm on a run already so probably later
Gnosis with sniper buffs is damn strong
Locks bosses in place
sonic willow
yes, except freeze immune bosses
main halo
Caster's my best bet
gleaming lodge
Yeah Rosa doesn't sound good
main halo
At least Irene's multi hit with S3
Rosa may has same ATK as Irene but she doesn't do as much hits
oblique fox
Among Lappland, Angelina, Blue Poison, Hoshiguma, and Cantabile
which helps clear maps more generally? (choosing who to E2 first)
gleaming lodge
Sir, that is a very weird comparison
main halo
Hoshi's a tank
gleaming lodge
Among Lappland, Angelina, Blue Poison, Hoshiguma, and Cantabile
which helps clea...
Are you willing to raise one of these ?
Also, what is your current roster ?
Cantabile is definitely a great ops
BP and Hoshi, not so much
main halo
She's a bait rather than a DP generator
storm current
ange is mostly an SSS units but you can use s2 i guess
gleaming lodge
Ange is cool but isn't that useful anymore I feel like
And Lappland is fine
storm current
also what
no
thats just misinfo
using cantabile as bait is terrible
you want her to survive to kill and print dp
gleaming lodge
And her DP gen is crazy good 
supple mountain
skill issue once again 
oblique fox
Are you willing to raise one of these ?
Also, what is your current roster ?
E2 Myrrh, SilverAsh
E1 Cantabile, BP, Angelina, Lappland, Meteorite, Silence
E0 Nearl, Scavenger, Shaw/Cliffheart
gleaming lodge
skill issue once again <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
Bring more AoE I guess ?
main halo
That stage has a lot of enemies
gleaming lodge
E2 Myrrh, SilverAsh
E1 Cantabile, BP, Angelina, Lappland, Meteorite, Silence
E0 ...
You only raised 8 ops so far ???
livid delta
E2 Myrrh, SilverAsh
E1 Cantabile, BP, Angelina, Lappland, Meteorite, Silence
E0 ...
Did you beat annihilation 3 yet
main halo
skill issue once again <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
Can you grab Lumen from SN? It has record restoration
frigid kite
Among Lappland, Angelina, Blue Poison, Hoshiguma, and Cantabile
which helps clea...
E2 First either Lappland or Angelina
oblique fox
You only raised 8 ops so far ???
yepp, I wasn't sure if I'm going to bench some units so I refrained from others
gleaming lodge
Can you grab Lumen from SN? It has record restoration
No it doesn't
storm current
@main halo misinfo again
supple mountain
Can you grab Lumen from SN? It has record restoration
i have him already but he's not e2
storm current
also
storm current
h6-4 was fairly doable without therapist
main halo
<@622632273467932713> misinfo again
It doesn't have record?
gleaming lodge
yepp, I wasn't sure if I'm going to bench some units so I refrained from others
Fair enough
Don't hesitate to raise some stuff to E1, it's good to have two or three operators for each class (guard, defender, sniper...)
storm current
since we have mountain mudrock now
its so much easier
@oblique fox go e1 your base slaves
main halo
Irene also makes short work of FN
storm current
no?
supple mountain
It doesn't have record?
where did u get that from
gleaming lodge
It doesn't have record?
No, it doesn't
supple mountain
i don't have irene raised either bruh
storm current
irene has low total dmg
storm current
frostnova has high hp low def
irene is bad for frostnova since she basically cant use s3 the second time for boss
main halo
she's at fucking e0 50
I seem to recall you have Surtr then
supple mountain
ye i have surtr
main halo
E2 even
supple mountain
yes
storm current
pozy can 1 cycle fn
supple mountain
m3 s3 aswell
storm current
typewriter cant since lv1 fn has 45k hp
main halo
m3 s3 aswell
If RNG isn't misbehaving then she can take on FN
supple mountain
it's more of like the ice slugs and drones im struggling with and the dog rush
cosmic dagger
h6-4 has a decent amount of 1 core clears i think
cosmic dagger
borrow chalter, should be alright
storm current
fn just straight up perma freeze her
supple mountain
i was gonna use guard chen to get thorns skill up 
i'll try with chalter then
frigid kite
Are you doing h6-4? @supple mountain
latent monolith
You could use a therapist medic to help, doesn't have to be lumen
cosmic dagger
ah i lied the 1 core was mlynar lol
chalter was with thorns
but you have thorns anyway so its no big deal
main halo
Maybe Spalter can stop the ice slugs?
She can't be killed easily
And her talent can deal some damage
neat skiff
Does her slow/damage aura persist when a freezy pop?
storm current
it should
main halo
Yeah
storm current
consider it persist while stun
supple mountain
Are you doing h6-4? <@985565652469288980>
ye
frigid kite
Team?
main halo
Let me play the stage again
supple mountain
skill issue once again <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
@frigid kite here
supple mountain
Does her slow/damage aura persist when a freezy pop?
spalter doll can still do aoe dmg when hit with cc effects afaik
frigid kite
You have little AoE
supple mountain
the rest of them are somewhere between e1 or e0
modern plover
Scene s1
supple mountain
i don't use scene at all i just got told to e2 her a while back so i did
main halo
Don't just repeat everything people said like a parrot
frigid kite
Don't just repeat everything people said like a parrot
Nah people won't care, don't mind
storm current
e2 scene for base is fine
main halo
But lv50?
supple mountain
i tried using her for like one annihilation that's it i never found use for her outside of my base
neat skiff
Before Ling, Scene used to be a stage solo-er.
alpine kite
she's still is
neat skiff
Yup. Still good at it as well. Plus her flexible invis reveal.
supple mountain
sonic willow
spalter actually godge without AH?
main halo
Spalter and Gladiia can stop the slugs
supple mountain
spalter actually godge without AH?
yeah she's not bad without them
storm current
also
spalter is practically invincible with gladiia on field
with modX
unless
blackice
then dead
sonic willow
now a little bummed I skipped spalter irene irene is cool
supple mountain
black ice
supple mountain
now a little bummed I skipped spalter irene <:Originium:863493415655440435> iren...
is ok
main halo
Her talent deals good damage too
main halo
What the hell with that RNG????
storm current
i mean
doesnt matter
even if spalter die
she stay in the middle for like a minutes
so after you clear all mob, FN will die to thorns
cursive wedge
storm current
but she can wave clear decently
main halo
She's good at pushing
storm current
also kinda 1 shot ice cleaves
main halo
She's like the strongest pusher by far
cursive wedge
enforcer
main halo
She has good DPS too
cursive wedge
narrow crown
I finally did it💀💀
elder flume
she gain weight on on reborn
what weight 
elder flume
oh i thought u meant reborn as in revive
elder flume
still cancellable with weedy
main halo
She should be losing weight considering the stress she went through in the story 
elder flume
opal kiln
there's duos without ling
storm current
oh ye
opal kiln
mag mayer
dorothy texalter
storm current
one of the few time mayer > scene
opal kiln
bet there’s a solo with ling
nah
opal kiln
she has a duo with like 15 ops
supple mountain
wtf blue woman jumpscare
main halo
Can casmiya S3 cycle FN phase?
storm current
no
main halo
Too much HP?
gray stone
Oh yeah her talent
main halo
amiya full cycle does like 34k
I'm just trying to clear the stage with all he has got
storm current
dorothy
main halo
Of course I can easily do it my way
gray stone
storm current
exu is 1s interval base like other maskmen
gray stone
I thought Dorothy was 1s
gray stone
Anyway, pot3 or her kit is 4/5 ass
storm current
oh only 600 def
back then i remember their defense being cracked af lmao
turn out its just 600 def
gray stone
Early game moment
storm current
well ye
main halo
Arts goes brrr
main halo
Also Chalter's busted af
gray stone
That isn't news
main halo
Also Chalter's busted af
I didn't even know about her presence when I was new until CC7
And frankly, all this trouble could've been avoided
storm current
whoosh
gray stone
What is this
storm current
take a guess
gray stone
That honestly looks like Blood Knight stats until I reach the RES part
storm current
its these guys
first appearance is grani EX along side with bob
but they only has 1k atk so no issue
gray stone
Ah the mini bosses in Phantom boss fight
main halo
its these guys
Seriously???
gray stone
Red shielders are tanky af
turbid badge
loll
main halo
Big bob's trash
storm current
tfw the elite is stronger than boss
the OG know the dread of these guys on CCB
fuck those bitch
so tanky
storm current
i still fine it hilarious when these guys have less defense than dog
gray stone
i still fine it hilarious when these guys have less defense than dog
You thought they would have some DEF due to their bulk
storm current
ye
main halo
That armor looks like it can take a hit or two
gray stone
Turns out that armor is made out of Texas
main halo
Or chinese copy
vernal lion
i still fine it hilarious when these guys have less defense than dog
these dudes are anti-arts user
gray stone
Back when HG design enemies to cater to rate up 6 star
Both Hellagur and Schwarz are physical
Pompeii was also weak to physical
vernal lion
the event is just about anti-arts dmg
gray stone
Both Dossoles and Ideal City are ass to the rate ups
turbid badge
there were holes for her s2
gray stone
4 new physical units, only to have the event be filled with high DEF enemies/physical dodge
full finch
the OG know the dread of these guys on CCB
they weren't in ccb
red armed militants have not appeared anywhere in the game except paradox
full finch
same with red sarkaz casters
elder flume
red sarcast
full finch
red sarkaz casters might have appeared in IS1 i forget
storm current
ye
elite 4
according to arknemy
red militant appear in interlocking competition
as if anyone remember that
full finch
that's not interlocking
storm current
idk
i have no memory of interlocking
since i skipped the event
so no podenco skin
supple mountain
had to chalter abuse for this
full finch
toron
storm current
they are all called LT
full finch
it's the funni mudrock map
storm current
since it end quite fast, enemies stat doesnt ramp up hard
full finch
you put mudrock S2 with 4 VG and 1 guard
and watch her speen
gleaming lodge
Nice :hoggers:
vernal lion
thanks for "airplane mode", the new feature button from Bluestacks,
now I can play anni without feeling panic when forgetting to forced-exit the game
sharp mango
burnt pine
guys i put mud to solo dps 10-10 but in the end she just deadge
sonic willow
guys i put mud to solo dps 10-10 but in the end she just deadge <:HellaHands:888...
I mean
sonic willow
which ops are good for toron mine
mudrock
cursive wedge
gg
burnt pine
i had to borrow blaze to do 10-10
harsh apex
i got a blaze
cursive wedge
ye blaze main dps for 10-10 
rough current
which ops are good for toron mine
Gnosis (Great with a couple aspd buffs. For me he's the one unit I really need for Toron. Can clear it with just him and lower rarity ops.)
sonic willow
Gnosis (Great with a couple aspd buffs. For me he's the one unit I really need f...
isn't toron boss freeze immune
turbid badge
yup
rough current
isn't toron boss freeze immune
Yeah he is. There i use Gnosis to help kill/stall/debuff the mobs. I use Shirayuki/haze (lol) and Lappland, plus Ethan stall, to kill the boss
glass monolith
i could do 100 clears in a row and never lose
frigid kite
How to SSS: start a new account
E2 10 to 12 supports
E2 at least 2 of the cores
Leave everything else on lvl 1
Use the leveled character plan
???
Win
glass monolith
How to SSS: start a new account
E2 10 to 12 supports
E2 at least 2 of the cores
...
Start new account
Gacha Gitano
Buy caster chip pack
E2 and Module Gitano in 1-10
???
You unlocked SSS before chapter 2 
glass monolith
3$ pack in shop have enough to E2 4* operator
supple mountain
o wait u mean like those ones for like 4$ that include low and high tier chips?
main solstice
<:WGremlin:1054702350318706748>
you for sure had 1 or 2 full stack carry then
glass monolith
full stack gg but fuck you anyway
frigid kite
Hard
main solstice
you use supp to draw other ops, if the supps are the last ops on the deck you dont care because you already have the ops to stack your carry
so whats the problem there?
glass monolith
What if next run i have them all last ops before well getting any of them?
main solstice
you really want to cry about SSS
glass monolith
Well you said it is easy, and i took it personally
main solstice
if you lose, its because you own lack of skill
drifting agate
Is supporter spam in SSS viable?
glass monolith
Assuming you don't run out of DP before 40 dogs reach blue box, yes
drifting agate
I feel like my deck is bloated towards the end so bringing pots of greeds might be nice
modern plover
Rig the rng is nice for once
frigid kite
I feel like my deck is bloated towards the end so bringing pots of greeds might ...
Yeah that's the recommended way
Aside from that, if you have any good support it becomes even eaaasier
cosmic dagger
Is supporter spam in SSS viable?
Not only is it viable, it's optimal
I always end up with 8-10 supporters in my deck at the final level
drifting agate
Guess i need to start levelling some supporters beyond e1 lv1
glass monolith
Uh.... You don't
You just play them and play whatever else you have
Outside of stuff like Gnosis, Ange who will actually kill stuff and Skalter Sora etc to cope in Inspire buff
gleaming lodge
if you lose, its because you own lack of skill
I challenge you to get the shiny Toron medal on my account
main solstice
I challenge you to get the shiny Toron medal on my account
im not a defender player
you know better than me
gleaming lodge
you don't have to play defenderknights
frigid kite
Yeah, @drifting agate no need, you can also do Free squad to get Random things
gleaming lodge
you may use my lvl 20 S3M2 Silverash
main solstice
ok in one hour i can try
gleaming lodge
that's a joke don't worry
I would not even put my worst enemies through that
though, I still need to find a solution for stage 6 
knights
frigid kite
For which mine?
turbid badge
toron p
frigid kite
Hm
turbid badge
defender buff moment
gleaming lodge
it goes smoothly until stage 6
where I have to leak Bob
and huh... it's a bit of a problem, since I don't have enough DPS to do anything afterwards
gleaming lodge
peak #strategy
"final" setup looks like this
with Saria S1 instead of Blem
Hung can stay alive of a while
but Mudrock can't kill
and even if Bob leaks nicely, I don't think Hung stays alive at 50 stacks
lethal kiln
frigid kite
You lose now
glass monolith
Deploy Melantha and use her skill
limpid siren
hidden needle
is there any one who can heal corossive? i tried using a Lumen but it dosent seam to work
cursive wedge
elemental medics
sonic willow
Wandering medics
cursive wedge
like mulberry and honey berry
hidden needle
oh is it not a status effect?
cursive wedge
honeyberry is free from red cert shop
cursive wedge
oh is it not a status effect?
nope
hidden needle
ah that explains lmao
and im assuming that it cant remove it off of mudrock right?
storm current
no
hidden needle
aight
cyan gorge
I think Mulberry S2 can reduce the build up, even if she can't directly heal it off Mud
turbid badge
yeah un-healable ops just slowly die, unless they have a talent/skill that can remove it coughcough lol
hidden needle
i see
sonic willow
Mudrock fell off, retreat redeploy like Chad mon3tr
hidden needle
i was using both lmao
cursive wedge
just don’t deploy mud first
hidden needle
woulnt i want to deploy mud first so that she dosent get targeted? at least tahts what i did then gavalter after words
cursive wedge
woulnt i want to deploy mud first so that she dosent get targeted? at least taht...
oh right i meant that
oops
typed it wrong
hidden needle
Doing the kazimier TBC map?
was doing the event map i just beat it now
idk Hoshi was good vs corossive I own her lmao
cursive wedge
she can tank
sonic willow
She can tank
She can be healed
She reflect damage
hidden needle
but the relfect is for mele only right?
cursive wedge
ranged too
sonic willow
shell arch
scarlet ledge
tf
limpid siren
<@&586570970345635868>
frigid kite
Yeah i've Warned already don't worry 💀
faint coral
I understand that we have cool emotes and stickers but please this is help category channel and as such discussion should be kept on topic.
frigid kite
Got it
modern plover
Fun
turbid badge
huh wat
tepid flame
Is Amiya E2 30 with lvl 7 skill enough to defeat Patriot phase 2?
glass monolith
To defeat patriot phase 2 you attack him. He loses his infinite and beyond Def of phase 1
frigid kite
You want her to kill both phase 1 and 2, specially 1 since her true damage will ignore all the defense it has, if your amiya manages to kill 1st phase, or the strat you used for it, then you will be able to kill him with the same since he doesn't increases his hp neither stats, he actually loses reductions from 1st phases but he will be able to attack both melee and high ground so be aware of that, and the spear attack too
tepid flame
I see
But what if i already defeated his phase 1 in other way?
Does it change something?
frigid kite
Which would be the other way?
Abuse mines?
Just try to repeat the same sources of damage you did for phase 1
tepid flame
Ok
frigid kite
He gives a lot of free time to prepare while reviving
tepid flame
So basically i have to kill him with Amiya and while he's reviving, prepare for his phase 2 so i can do the same again
scarlet ledge
patriot has a lot of stopping spot