#strategy
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vermeil will fell off for later
she just does good for stage with low HP and weak DEF enemies
ranger range is pretty neat, he's only useful for drone
nope
gg s2 or s3 for sss?
s3
Ninja girl s1 or s2?
s2
I have 0 max level thorns
but did you get someone with s3m3
the difference is 50 atk, I don't think it's too necessary to borrow a max Thorns
you got Shirayuki can back him up with her s2
when do the drones stop spawning?
in anni 3?
if there are no more drones I can put chalter there
They spawn until the very end
have you managed to clear it? or do you still need a bit of assistance?
still need help
if you want, i can try to break things down with you and run a few simulations on my side, and you can just DM me if you don't want to completely take this channel over lmao
lemme just grab the screenshots of what you're working with real quick lol
feel free to turn it down if you rather just stay here btw, no stress, no harm
yes?
u only need thorns and a good guard in lapp position for the anni 3
blocking with cuora isn't a good idea as u can use shaw next to shirayuki
also i don't know if shirayuki is better than a regular anti air here
i think im gonna retire
objective 3: failed
what am i looking at?
I thought you already did this stage back then
was that like a scuffed version
and now you're actually recording a real one
leak boss
does not count
ah
is this SSS?
the last stage of project (m8-8 CM and EG-2 not included)
oh
not a time issue
its a i cant fkin play the game issue
but ideally
i need goldenglow 18 frames later
and i bait boss with elysium followed by mosnter
instead of plooma
who cant heal herself
when i said time though, i meant buy time to prep the best CC; death 
ive only gotten to phase 3 a total of 9 times
out of what must be 200 attempts at this point
yeah
technically idk we can talk about what im doing here
since it is bug abuse
it's a really clever exploit in the stage
well, i respect you for the level of precision
but it genuinely requires me to do it frame perfect
the reason im playing on CN
is so i can pause deploy
because as soon as i need to do some tight time window stuff
without pause deploy the level of precision on EN is impossible
yea
i am gonna make a large story video after this
how e0 beat arknights
since ch8 is the end of an large arc
i believe in you
i do not have the patience to do what you're doing
i think the most i've repeated a stage ever in this game is 50-60 times
and that was during Originium Dust
which was me returning to the game, and having a pretty suboptimal roster to work with 
oh, and not understanding the boss mechanics properly until the last few runs, that really would have helped 
is this a strategic retreat 
its more like 80 times if you dont count all the fails in the first 30s
Sup?
Wait there's a H8-4 clear?
Oh wait yes I just checked arkrec 
h8-4 was done by the legend 华亓
when spalter came out
use spalter to heal mud
let her regen a shield
fireballs

Did it already?
@supple mountain borrow NTR with S3 instead
And give her a good healer
Also uh
Normal environment
I actually dunno what his pathing is

I only did adverse
But ntr kinda deleted his p2 for me
I did have kaltsit too
Looks kinda easy
His drones do splash damage in transition
with the drones
In 4 adjacent tiles
- there's leeches
yes
Adverse doesn’t have them 
in g8
Honestly you might wanna try adverse

i havent done any of adverse tho
Oof

also weirdly enough gladiia doesn't take any of the spalter hp buff
leeches cause i have gladiia deal with them
and the slugs
since spalter doll comes out usually with the slugs
but that's easily countered with thorns

How much hp does ur gladiia have
Also is there any unit you feel like isn’t utilized
i mean she has about 3k in the stage
but when i actually deploy her
she only has 2.8k
with no dmg taken
If she can’t have over 3k
So
Roberta might be useful
What I want to do is basically
When spalter goes into doll
Gladiia S3 to keep shits from leaking
And if cannon is about to fire and gladiia is in range no matter placement
Roberta drone her
I’m p.sure you can Block the shot
also none of my other ops can take a cannon shot apart from spalter
except surtr with her skill up
and matoimaru

another problem is i don't have roberta raised
As long as she can survive a shot or two from transition and get a heal
I think it’s enough
I needed it for a max risk daily last cc
here
I wish I could replicate some of ur team to try a strat
But what I’m gonna do anyways is drop a mudrock and then gladiia and take a roberta borrow ntr, I’m curious how much would the roberta meme work
Yeah what are you willing to borrow? Or no borrow?
Oh wait
Roberta only works on melee units
If i put gladiia on ranged tile
She counts as range
But on ground tile she’ll be melee
Right?

nah i'm willing to borrow anything
as long as it helps
Actually I could borrow a spalter and then use my gladiia and just try the meme I wanna do
Maybe it can work
ok wait it works now
borrowed a nearlter

but it was annoying to constantly bait the canon
Gratz
Oh dswo, have you done it yet?
I did adverse
So why worry about normal?
Yup
Meanwhile me and my luxury adverse clear
Ntr+kal manfred and hatedrinkers
Mudrock the spawns on top left
Skalter s3 and surtr when there’s too many

Skalter carried me hard in this entire ch10
#help is generally going to be a better bet for that
unless you want help with a specific stage
isnt that a h stage
H10-1
H10-1

lul
Why is there two fred stages
H10-2 and 3 have fred too
all H stages are MAN
WHY IS THERE THREE FRED STAGES
lol
4
im tired

czerny good
5 if you include CC10 perma
Czerny good
s2m3 doubles HP lol
jokes on all of you i cleared them to get prepared for cc
Wait you could count 10-17 standard and adverse as two separate stages
So you have 10-17 standard, adverse, H10-1, H10-2, H10-3 and cc10
...How the heck do I complete TR-9?
Wtf h10-1 manfred does necrosis damage? 
How do I not die from mephisto toxic gas in m8-8 cm?
Don't burst
If you do, prepare these:
Activate pillar when the last dudes are there
Saria s3m3
Ng s3m3
Shining s3m3
Ptilopsis s2
Oh so I had my Placement wrong...
Don't even have one of them
I personally bursted mephisto phase1, waited for gas to run out, killed a bunch of things, his egg respawned and then bursted phase2 so hard that the fart didn’t kill anyone
His fart stops dealing damage when he dies in 2nd phase
Then don't burst. Hit him little by little with controlled damage 
So if you burst him, make sure you burst him hard enough
Is the gas global?
Question
FEater or Projekt Red
As I wanna try out FEater as Red loses HP way too fast
They’re used for separate purposes
Both are solid
But both do different things
Feater is a great pusher and Red is a fast redeploy
You generally use red to bait things or as a stun-on-demand
If you want someone who’s cheap and can soak up a good chunk of damage
You may wanna consider gravel
Her skill2 is very good at soaking quick damage

And she’s cheap to deploy
This isn’t flex wtf 
Not M6 so not flex
Mod3 tho 
cries in not raising above E2 69
@shell arch
No p6. Not chad 

700 more cc currency
And I have p2
Ok time to mald H10

Nice I already hate h10-1
Leeches are a pain
Commit fred bombardment
Blemishine actually just tanks thru it lmao
And no necrosis somehow either
Fuck I wasn’t paying enough attention and lost on p2

I am not even sure what kind of sick man copium i used to brute force H10-1 with Fartooth
What makes smp so hard for E0 compared to talulah/black snake?
talulah can be stalled with an army of fast redeploys
mephisto can only be stalled with repeated uses of a frame perfect exploit
Tratata boom
which i have to use
the 1750 is not a problem
maggie + thrm-ex + chalter + nearl + horn
does a lot of dmg
right now
im trying to optimize out thrm-ex
in favor of using it against mephi
Ok I think I got h10-1 done
3 healers + blemi S3 makes p2 tankable

Doublehit cannon
Wtf

I can’t tank that
Ok nvm h10-2 is a lot easier
The forbidden h10-3 
It was much more fun with sanity shield when i did nothing but waited for Fia S3 and Mudrock S2 murder him into his bitch ass dodge
Have fun, actually Fiametta makes it pretty easy
Worst part is I have no clue what goes where
Only know where fia go
And idk what to borrow either lol
Ntr
Left half of screen goes left, right half of screen goes right 
Ye but y’know
110 fuckin enemies
I guess I can ntr top left and ocassionally press S3
90 slimes, 3 clown cars, 4 sky chargers, 1 FRED, 16 or so GIGA CHADS
I used S3 Weedy to fucking solo left side
(With Ptilo healing)
open map moment
help plez
2-?
2-2 i believe
Ok
no 2-1
oh right
Give her a try
Use Caster/Supporter on bottom left 2 ranged tiles, the end
wow, that was a whole heap easier after i remembered orchid existed
Okay
H10-3
Is not working out
I have no clue what I’m doing wrong lowkey
Maybe I need a diff approach
Instead of ptilo use honeyberry so ntr can actually use s3
why

I HATE THIS STAGE I HATE THIS STAGE I HATE THIS STAGE
Thorns is useless I need to pick something useful
Projekt red go
I fucked up my stuff sadly cause of cannon reaggroing n shit
liskarm and watch SP 
cant Monet solo left while thorns + 1 in front take care right side?
Monster does left side, right side would be thorns + ntr
if you're feeling dank could maybe spawnkill Fred phase 1 with monet mid while mudrock holds monet spot temporarily
wait no i forgor story fred is a chad compared to CC fred
theres a tutorial
that tells you to use orchid
and a caster
to kill the tanky enemies
🙂
damn nice pinecone
It’s ok I got it
Holy fuck
Ntr did whole top left
And I did some funky shit bot right
- spawnkilled fred p1
Using red on two of the chargers
Made timings completely different
And in my favor even
i hereby certify you as a gamer 🤝
now do risk 36
No thanks 
~~its not an offer
~~
same, got the units and brain (to search youtube)
but not enough desire and patience 

3rd funny blue wamen
Rate this roster, gotten pretty far into the game with it but I am stuck on this campaign mission

and why does siege use s1
5-7 haven't been able to Crack it
The only good thing about swire is that she has the best skin in the game
wait
why do you have everyone except SA at e2?
he's the one who needs e2 the most
Lappland is much better for that
Silverash is much better for that
Instructor archetype is awful
Don't have her😭
you dont need someone behind if you have good ranged dps covering for melee blockers
Swire and dobermann could be any ranged operators that would perform miles better
Those are my only other ranged operators other than ashlock
Kroos alone probably outdamages both of them
It doesn’t have to be a ground tile ranged
get silverash to e2,and you already killed 2 of those early drones
I'm trying that currently
Also silverash S3 is an extremely strong ability that will carry you in a lot of content
Want to full lvl e2 someone tho
Don’t
full lvl??
Lv60 to 90 is 600k lmd
And… A LOT of xp
You could spend this to E2 two lower rarity units
Maxing isnt even necessary to do ak content
Fr?
The rest is 30-60
Just follow the lvl requirements at the stage and lvl up accordingly
Thats what i did
Before lvling them to 70 and stopping
you can get them
just not now
I mean you do you just saying its not necessary
Events
Ak is all about resource management at the early to middle stages of an account
thats why you need to plan better for it
Yea you can have all the 6*s at the start and it wont mean anything at all if you cant manage them
I'm a terrible strategicst but I make do somehow
(unless credit card)
Nah I ain't getting no In game purchases
People can have majority of their team be 3* and still reach/finish chap 10
Brought that skin purely for cat in base
Its 100% harder but doable
being good at managing resource can get you further easily than being a good strategist
Jesus I couldn't imagine being that good💀💀
Dw me too, it’s all about having the right broken units leveled
Interesting
Especially two particular blue women
Hey sometimes rngesus fucks you up so bad you need to develop a brain 
Ik💀💀💀
Yea chalter makes my brain go smooth thats why i never run her in my teams unless necessary
This is probably the calmest chat I have ever had on discord💀💀💀
Oh lord I'm gonna have to check that out lmao
nah the chaos is at temporary channel while maintenance
super fun
Sounds like it lol
😹
It becomes a shit posting channel when maint is up
Been through worse lol
An example would be one specific person preaching that ptilopsis is bad and that if you need healing you lack dps

(Ptilopsis is an excellent healer)
You need healers don't you?
Yes
100%
I always try to have two available
Especially for later content
Unless you doing helidrop shenanigans
one of the strongest boss dps is a 'healer' 
yeah healers make general content easier
This is a super fun strategy game with lots of lore, but I suck at strategy and puzzles in general
Worst case scenario there’s always guides
its a pve game no need to pressure yourself,just play at your pace
Still super fun tho
Yea it's what I'm trying lol
The habit that made me clear stages in the early days is take your time and always do the safe option
I'm only lvl 49 yet I have had this game for like, 1-2 years?

I took a pretty long break tho
Like you can spawn camp the enemy or you can just setup near your the blue thing majings and create a good defense
That's what I do
also use practice plans and read enemy descriptions if u fail it can help alot
if they're weaker to physical/arts or have a gimmick
I created account in december 2020 got 18+ed because low IQ, left, returned i January 2022, "Returnee luck is not real lmao" into Annihilation cannon starting kit and now have 2 years medal, level 97 and 0 rocks... 
ah yes i was told that. i forgot they were used for that kinda thing though haha
@scarlet ledge is your irene by any chance lv90 m3

Or teta or dys
Cause all current irenes in my list are lv60-69
is this for the daily cc?
irene worked fine at 60 s3m3 for me
fair
I wish SSS wasn’t boring
Doing non-meta runs requires a lot of mald
So every 2 weeks gotta do the same comp every time
In IS you can at least do meme shit
funny attack speed shenanigans
I want to do attack speed Astgenne
BUT THERE IS SMALL ISSUE
cn exclusive operator, sorry 
lord have a tendency to be average to good(ignore frostleaf)
(Ignore thorns)
best archetype (real)
Artillery and fortress best archetypes
sesa was 2020
Huh there’s more than 2?
vulcan
eunectes aurora vulcan
Oh vulcan
wat now

oh wrong archetype 💀
Eunectes aurora are different archetype
Question
Is it okay to not take mayer despite being supporter
no
I really hate having ground tile supporters
who else are you gonna take here
With deployment limit being 2 as is
nightmare?
ground tiles? mayer is highground
then it depends on your carries
i run 0 ranged carries so that would be instant mayer pick for me
Huh mayer is high?
yea
I swear mayer is low
yeah
shes same as ling
Bruh
mayer is summoner not artificer
summoners are ranged
I mixed her up with sm1 then

lel
Ok nvm mayer it is then
altho honestly
mechanically wise
mayer s2 can be an artificer and no one will question it
while other summoner buff their summon to keep them alive
mayer does the opposite
he actually go out of his way to find your message
when texas wasn’t announce yet at the time iirc
he holding his grudge
bad
Pain
typewriter doesnt get buffed so lose a chunk of dps

her dps is the "fast physical" type meaning she get hit by high defense
pick enforcer
Pain
real
what are the best 4* to build for general content? it's for an alt account
building cutter and jaye rn, like i've heard good things about vigna in gamepress but idk if they're outdated (+ it's gamepress)
pinecone and may i don't have, i'm considering building mousse/utage/pudding in the future
don't have click either sadly
what about estelle?
oh yeah sussurro/perfumer are goated
if you want, raising vermeil ist bad
purestream i don't have yet either sadly
vermeil too
is deepcolour any good if you're not silvergun
Wtf why silvergun lmao
cutter vs chen?
i've seen him use it a lot in his 4* clears
silvergun tend to solo the entire stage with deepcolor + boss killer
or build both cutter and chen
I build Kazemaru... Something tells me i will have great time using her
bro
i havent raised my ireme
sorry
im too lazy
leite

s3
ok
for the vid u gave me
oh
i want to pot 5 skalter
u can change later
well fuck me

have it ever add defender token
I am on the verge of just not bothering to play for clearing sss
dswioey
And just repeat like 10 braindead floor 4 runs
wait for mylnar patch
I need the module upgrades
No removal patch means they need to add other content
but ye still far
To get the module mats
Oh I thought you meant just dump it all out
adding mlynar is similar to making sss easier
I just go to floor 6 twice and call it there 
She aint gonna do shit with stacks
No you spam specA redeploy
Are you really content with spamming rdp
sss is actually fun 😱
I thought you wanted to make sss less annoying, not more LOL
yep
finally at peace
u can choose no ops when choosing ops sometimes
Wait which floors get taken out?
all completely new on reworked
all map dead
all new map for reworked
Damn
Oh fuck
sss reworked is on reed altrr
Ur right
still far
I completely forgot about it
so u can be consistent😱
Tfw 5vg irene not enough dmg to kill boats
mylnar patch on sss is ok
rework makes sss significantly easier
see
I also learned that irene has a target cap on s3 and it’s completely rng which targets get hit
hi kermit

you start with 20 and end up with around 25-26
^
so you get to basically control your draft

i cant preach this enough but e0 bards are the angle
nice sui
am i blind
wat
bcs it looks pretty
well i use deepcl too
👍
smh
got skin without using it = not get skin
I almost bought dusk skin when I started
Despite not getting her
Long-term investment

@civic nest wat r y doung anywya for skalter
the vid u sent me
💀
Godsenger is 5caster right?
people seems to like running sniper on him for perma slow
like the whole pass gnosis suzu gg package and whatnot
suzuless
Why live
no light
😱
uwaaaah
must be very important
Ok godsenger sucks ass in sss
Idk why
Maybe the mod3 lv80 m3 I took is defective or sth
But he’s not carrying at all
he is pretty okay
my sss carry is gg and pass
Idk I couldn’t make him work
I was trying 5 caster
5 caster works pretty well
he wont solo carry as everyone would if that was what you were expecting
yeah he won't be solo carrying
if you want that maybe try irene
I've been hearing she works as one
nah irene cant solo carry either
Irene did solo carry for me in first clears for toron and carrot
But for some reason she’s failing me now
But well either way w/e
Got to floor 6 both times and abandoned
Irene couldn’t solo carry for me but I used Irene & gg and they did fine together
usually want like 3-4 carries not just 1
is it really a carry if you need multiple 
depends how mean you are about 'solo'
Very
well ig more carries = more consistent runs
i think
i only find myself scrambling for vgs to stack than not finding a carry in my hand
Dp can become a problem
Especially if it’s a funny stage like toron 7
That throws 20 mobs at you at once
So you basically have to start with 2vg3def mudrock or some shit like that
you only need a couple built to any meaningful degree
And my only 6* vg is a siege
i think u shud let vgs proc skill before swapping them out
But neither can deal with the toron 7 rush
instead of just rapid swapping
Maybe leveled siege with s2 could
toron 7 is a special case

maps don't normally start that fast
and tbh
i'm not sure vgs are the solution there
The person who greenlit SSS idea is a special case
i use mizuki s2 to open
i got bagpepe recently
2 flags and canta,dp stop being an issue
ayo is it time for the weekly sss bashing
yes 😎
guess i'll dip, heard this track before
Lmfao
Oh ya I should level canta too
But mountain is waiting
There’s also phantom waiting
And irene with blaze waiting

Too many things to level
flags and supporter make the deck more consistent
there is that dog rush stage which kind of a pain without mud opening or good vgs
Just flametail bro
true true
i don't often bother to be very original for CC strats but this time i tried to do something funky without any guides cause that "high range" Pocket Sea Crawler risk was really interesting
how dumb was this compared to "better" solutions
Is this for r8 or r15
Severely overkill
Also the fact that pozy cost is 40 tell me enough
Just do this
Kroos or any maskmen sniper on the tile below typewriter
typewriter op fr
invincible sniper
Btw why lumen instead of honey
You can uh
Kill them without being touch
Quite nice since no hp up mean they die quickly
I mean it’s not even that
Honeyberry makes flowers never stun if they run thru
Meanwhile Lumen has only 1 ammo left

2 things
- my lumen is e2 and my honey's like e1 25, and she wasn't doing anything helpful weirdly enough
i think her skill might have been l4
Damn she’s very underleveled lol
- lumen negated stuns if they did happen from flowers or something
as that's the only thing he negates, he doesn't do anything about the buildup which is actually fine
Idk the way you did things looks way too overcomplicated
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Is this R8 or just the challenge
I mean, if it's fun sure
to me it just looks like a massive mess of a scuffed run

seeing as half of your units have been redeployed at least twice
Oh I didn't take egg range for R8
the scuffed bit was the end, everything before that was pretty swimmingly
as the 2 bosses built up as i didn't have the units to block em
oh it was both
neither were up iirc
well
can't remember why pozy was down
why was poze not up 
straight up do not remember
i think i might have used her for extra damage but she died to a flower or something
Ok wtf
















