strategy

[full finch]

default mudrock has the best animations
coral coast skin has the best effects
ambience synthesia has pretty mediocre animations and effects

[proud drift]

Idk coral coast is sleeper

Dress skin she looks cool af and the effects are very clean

[full finch]

the effects are terrible lol

they don't match the skin at all

[proud drift]

Wdym

[turbid badge]

yeahh it is like muffled

[proud drift]

The effects on the skin are good

[turbid badge]

just listented to it on base

i mean wallpaper thing

[proud drift]

Her dress skin is like a “ball” skin, a high-class party skin

And her effects are for when she’s in the spotlight

[tidal sedge]

Partying while killing enemies

Cool

[proud drift]

Idk I love the effects on this skin

[full finch]

default

the hammer shine is perfect

[proud drift]

Idk I don’t like the outfit

[tidal sedge]

The effects do look cool frfr

[proud drift]

If we speak armor I much prefer armor like blemishine

Than a fuckin hazmat suit with hammer

[full finch]

both of her skin animations are just unsatisfying tbh

[tidal sedge]

Hazmat suits are hawt tho

[full finch]

only default really captures the feeling of bashing the shit out of your enemies

[turbid badge]

i likv eht eirbbon'

[tidal sedge]

Mudrock be like : "The hazmat suit stays on during seggs"

[turbid badge]

i love the ribbon too mch

[full finch]

yeah the ribbon is great

[proud drift]

Also mudrock’s voice is very soft and the hazmat suit ruins it

[full finch]

just use E2 art

[proud drift]

Or I just use the dress skin

[full finch]

and be stuck with mediocre animations

[glass monolith]

One like summer Mudrock, some like agent Mudrock... But all we want is E2 skin in combat mudrock

[full finch]

they remind me of a child roleplaying with a hammer

[proud drift]

Sounds like a man with mediocre taste coping

[plush badger]

Foxcats DP locked I cry

[tidal sedge]

[full finch]

the art is good
just the animations aren't

[plush badger]

time to find surtr replacement of 4 op instead

[wind silo]

I wonder how fast can I progress with the prts help

I mean could I get Heidi fast this way too?

Like say

[proud drift]

You don’t get free heidi from ch9

[wind silo]

Heidi is chap 10 reward right

Yeah I know

I mean going to speed run to chap 10

[proud drift]

I also wonder if you get full rewards cause every difficulty has its own rewards

[wind silo]

Means clearing chap 9 first

[proud drift]

So heidi might be normal difficulty reward

[wind silo]

I don't know too

[wind silo]

And say

I clear chap9 with easy mode

Then switch to normal

[turbid badge]

whyy

Just do normal

waste of sanity smhsmh!!

[wind silo]

Does my progress reset to do chap 9 normal again

[turbid badge]

irl sanity

[wind silo]

[turbid badge]

Just do it on normal altogether

and use practice plans

[wind silo]

T-thats a joke right

[turbid badge]

yeah i said irl sanity since your gonna do it again

[somber falcon]

If you skip normal and clear adversary, you'll still get all rewards for lower difficulty

[wind silo]

Been getting a mixed of serious and joke comments tbh

So I have to ask if joke

[turbid badge]

just do the higher difficulty if you can

[wind silo]

But if I do lower, can't get normal

[proud drift]

Yes

[wind silo]

That much is understandable

[proud drift]

If you do I difficulty you’ll need to redo II

[wind silo]

The question is

[proud drift]

but if you do III you get both I and II rewards

[somber falcon]

Lower? You mean story? Yeah

[proud drift]

Heidi is II rewards

[wind silo]

If I clear chap9, does it means unlocking chap10

[turbid badge]

on easy mode? yeah im pretty sure you just need to clear it

[wind silo]

And could I mixed up the normal and easy mode

[somber falcon]

Higher difficulty gives lower one's rewards, can't do the other way round

[wind silo]

So I can just do easy till Heidi stage

To get her

Fast

[proud drift]

Kinda hard to mix em up ngl

[wind silo]

[proud drift]

If you do I you have to redo II fully

[turbid badge]

if your rushing for heide yeah i guess

[proud drift]

But if you do II you won’t need to do I

[wind silo]

Do Easy till heidi

Then swap for normal

Then after get Heidi

[somber falcon]

Not sure what you're rushing to get her for but it's doable ig

[wind silo]

Easy again

[proud drift]

No like

Easy mode

Doesn’t unlock normal mode nodes

Your normal mode rn is at 9-1

[wind silo]

Ah here's the actual answer I need

Yeah

[storm current]

ok basically

[wind silo]

Guess normal all the way then

What

[storm current]

the new adverse mode has 3 modes

story only

normal

and hard

for chapter 9 specifically

theres only story and normal, as well as challenge mode

in chapter 10 and 11

[proud drift]

Also nice thing about chapter 10 hard mode

[storm current]

challenge mode is replaced with hard mode

so if you do hard mode

[proud drift]

It doesn’t make you lose 50% sanity

For restarting

[storm current]

you do both CM and normal run at the same time

[wind silo]

[storm current]

story only is uh

story only

you dont use that if you are clearing

[wind silo]

So

[proud drift]

Also story only doesn’t unlock crafting

I learned it the hard way

[ashen shadow]

just do 3

save your sanity

[turbid badge]

ohhh

chapter 9

yeah it only has 2

[wind silo]

If say
→Start chap9,(stage 9-1)
Does easy mode
→unlock chap10,(easy mode(?))
Swap back to normal
→progress reset to (9-1(normal))

Am I getting this correct

[storm current]

doesnt work

[wind silo]

[storm current]

afaik

you cant play chapter 10 normal mode before clearing 9-19 on normal

[proud drift]

In other words you gotta kill mandragora on normal mode as someone who doesn’t pull or recruit

In other words

Have fun

[turbid badge]

[wind silo]

so to get Heidi, I need do normal mode rather than easy

[storm current]

yes

[wind silo]

Because easy doesn't unlock normal

Gonna have fun with Mandragora the waifu see you guys

[storm current]

tbh

dont even touch easy mode

[proud drift]

Yea idk how you’re gonna kill mandy

[wind silo]

Let's just see how far can I go first

Brb

[turbid badge]

oki

[proud drift]

Honestly how do you even deal with gargoyles on left side of mandra map

You can permastall phase1 mandra

With like cardigan hibiscus ansel or smth like that

[storm current]

have fun with these guys

[proud drift]

Oh god

Well

Scene is a welfare

[glass monolith]

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[proud drift]

So that’s lucky

[turbid badge]

easy mode😹

alright lemme see if it unlock

[proud drift]

Was h9-6 cleared with welfare only

[storm current]

i guess

[turbid badge]

oh does work

normal mode btw

[proud drift]

You know what’s the worst combo HG has ever invented

A zerg stage

With DP recovery down

[civic nest]

wth is a zerg stage

💀

[proud drift]

When you have 50 mobs running into your gate at the same time

[rough anvil]

Zerg just means a swarm stage

[civic nest]

ah

[storm current]

dswopey

isnt that just

h10-3

[civic nest]

yea

[proud drift]

Idk but

[civic nest]

h10-3 was fun

[proud drift]

I’m stuck on this rn

[storm current]

wow

wheelchair

[proud drift]

6 dublin shitters botlane per wave

[civic nest]

fr

[proud drift]

With multiple reborn topside

[storm current]

dublinn who

chapter 10 enemies arent dublin

its chapter 9

[civic nest]

u can just borrow mudrock for top and win

[proud drift]

I use blemishine top

Mudrock too much dp cost

Blemishine with S2 top does just fine

[civic nest]

u using texas to generate dp or smth

[proud drift]

Myrtle bagpipe

[civic nest]

then why u losing

bottom leak?

[proud drift]

Bagpipe handles first wave bottom

But I leaked 2nd

I’ll try a different approach

[civic nest]

isnt bottom like

not hard at all

or am i remembering smth wrong

[full finch]

early chap 10 is not hard

[signal granite]

Really got dublinn at earlier chap 10

[proud drift]

6 dublinn soldiers 3 per lane

That all walk same time

[civic nest]

dublinn scout?

[proud drift]

Imma try a different approach tho brb

[civic nest]

arent they like super weak

[civic nest]

u have fia raised

[turbid badge]

yeah thats default enemy

[full finch]

just don't block them very long
or use an elem healer

[civic nest]

theres a tile where it look perfect for her

[proud drift]

I forgor monter is 3block

Bye bagpipe

💀

And sleep unblocks blemi

[civic nest]

so borrow mudrock

💀

[proud drift]

Maybe I’ll stick to S1 blemi and see if she keeps herself above 2.8k hp

I HAVE MUDROCK

MUDROCK

IS

TOO EXPENSIVE

[civic nest]

lemme get this

[full finch]

wait wtf
how are you struggling with this stage

[civic nest]

u have

bagpipe

and myrtle

[proud drift]

BECAUSE STAGE CHALLENGE HAS DP DOWN

[civic nest]

but mudrock is too expensive

[proud drift]

[full finch]

you realize you can deploy mudrock with the cost of kal

[civic nest]

real

[radiant plinth]

I THINK I GOT IT

[proud drift]

Mudrock is 36, kal monter is 30, that 6 matters a lot during dp down

[full finch]

yet I see you having 16 extra DP?

[modern plover]

Dalao still malds h8-3 🛐

[radiant plinth]

bro

i had someone teach me the bug

for 2 hours

bug abuse is the key to winning

[storm current]

lol

[modern plover]

Amazing

[storm current]

abusing bug

[somber falcon]

Dalao momen

[proud drift]

Yeah because I need that dp to block the lane above monter..?

[radiant plinth]

its a frame perfect bug

[modern plover]

Definitely legit

Clueless

[civic nest]

u can like

[radiant plinth]

that has a 50% chance of happening

[civic nest]

bring another vanguard

[radiant plinth]

no matter what you do

no way to improve that chance

but if you use the bug

[civic nest]

not that hard to figure out

[radiant plinth]

mephisto stays on the field

[full finch]

any DP problems are solved by simply bringing more vanguards

[radiant plinth]

for an extra 180s

which is freaking huge

[modern plover]

Wtf

[civic nest]

literally just remove cheeto and skalter

[turbid badge]

u can likw facw monster upwards

[proud drift]

I have a use for skalter tho

[radiant plinth]

i just need to learn the timing

when the boss jumps

and how to eyeball when hes at 21% hp and retreat everyone

[full finch]

skalter is useless if you cannot reach the point of deploying her without leaks

[proud drift]

S3 skalter not S2

[full finch]

isn't this strategy basics

[civic nest]

or u can even remove poz and gg

[modern plover]

Any means for that clear screen i see

[civic nest]

i literally think fia can solo dps bottom lane

[modern plover]

🛐

[civic nest]

i also dont know why u need skalter s3

[full finch]

cannon is plenty of true damage
no need for skalter

[radiant plinth]

this bug has 0 use out side of low level

[proud drift]

I beat it finally just did what I thought I should

And that is bring a cheap defender

Like cuora or beagle

Fia S2 is something I should’ve considered for bottom lane tho

I thought it’s gonna have beefier enemies at any point

[civic nest]

my m1 mod 1 fia can solo dps

[proud drift]

I basically thought too much about this stage as usual and it was a lot simpler than it should’ve been

[civic nest]

i dont think your max fia cant

[storm current]

wow

skill issue

[civic nest]

fr fr

[proud drift]

I’m too used to like

As you progress story stages

Mobs have more stats right

[storm current]

not exactly

they upgrade

or get more gimmick

[proud drift]

I had just automatically assumed that since I’m doing recent story that mobs would naturally be too tanky for a single sniper to handle

[storm current]

for example

[proud drift]

Other games made me used to dynamic stats rather than a specific set number for all content

[civic nest]

u know when u lost once u can just go see the enemy right?

[proud drift]

Yes I’ll learn a lot from

S A B C D

[civic nest]

from actually reading 💀

[proud drift]

I’m sure you’re aware hg likes to give us actual information regarding stats n shit

[civic nest]

u can see wat enemy there are

[proud drift]

Only if you see them in stage

Otherwise they stay hidden

[civic nest]

why did u think there will be a beefier enemy then

[proud drift]

Because I didn’t see all of stage before

[civic nest]

u dont need to...

[proud drift]

You do

[civic nest]

if u already see all the enemy

u lost

u go see enemy

u have them all unlocked?

[proud drift]

Yeah I didn’t see all enemy

[civic nest]

theres only 5 enemy

u can see them all not even half of the stage

bro 💀

[proud drift]

Yeah and I couldn’t see that one enemy cause I’d leak before it

Had no clue what to expect

[civic nest]

didnt teta took a pic for you up there

[proud drift]

Oh he did

I missed it I guess

Idk I’ve been awake for only 3 hours and only been in a bad mood

Bad mood doesn’t go well with thinking

💀

[wind silo]

So

Wait

Does not getting 3* will not give me heidi

Or I just simply need to clear the stage

[vernal lion]

you just need to clear it once, 3 star or not doesn't matter

[glass monolith]

Well it does matter for us because not 3 star means you will waste stage cost sanity on that stage in future regardless of it being farm or not for anyway

[wind silo]

Well that's true for you guys

I meanwhile simply just want the mommy

14 more stages

Idk if this is slow pace

Need to redo some stages when you got no units of a particular arctypes

[wind silo]

no wait I cannot math it's 20+

[civic nest]

ur doing chapter 10 for heidi?

[proud drift]

He’s at ch9 rn

I wonder how much of a pain mandy will be for eka

[wind silo]

Call me ame, or idk

Tbh this is like the most stage clears I've done in a day consecutively

Like

Sheesh

[molten swan]

you haven't seen shit when people speedran events in 20 mins

[wind silo]

They got the 1)beeg brain 2)beeg units

This is my current limit

[violet hinge]

I need help doing 10-11 Adver Environment, heres the team im currently using

[molten swan]

that's low-end as hell what guide are you following

[violet hinge]

Kyostin of course but the problem is I didnt upgrade some of the 3 stars fully

[molten swan]

mmmm

cardigan can probably be replaced with a tankier defender

[violet hinge]

Heres the team I was originally using but it kept on failing

[molten swan]

I'm wondering

what did kyo use cardigan for

[violet hinge]

Stalling the enemies

[molten swan]

without external heals if I'm correct?

[violet hinge]

She uses only her ability to heal and probably Perfumer

Since she heals all teammates slowly out of her range I think

[molten swan]

you can probably cope with gav s1 but I won't go that far

do you have the resources

hang on a second

what is he exactly stalling

[violet hinge]

Broke

[molten swan]

was it just the low damage slugs

[molten swan]

if that's the case your specter can do the trick to an extent

[glass monolith]

Give me those 156 red tickets

[violet hinge]

She always gets killed

No matter what 8 try

Ifrit Support,Chalter support wont work

They all keep getting killed because of the fucking mage

Im honestly pissed

[molten swan]

how did cardigan survive in his guide?

[proud drift]

Keep in mind kyo always keeps saying that you don’t need to use 1:1 units to his guide

Cardigan can 100% be replaced by sm1 like nearl or Saria

Spot too

[jovial nest]

awwww kohl farm is now Adverse 10-15

the easy 4-4 has been dethroned

[gray stone]

is there a difference between Adverse and Normal?

[molten swan]

Nah

[storm current]

Not in term of farming

Data on penguin suggest a fraction of difference

Prob just input difference

[gray stone]

yeah it's weird he specified Adverse when I don't remember any difference

[silver mirage]

How do I kill the casters near box??

[plain ginkgo]

In Challende Mode?

[silver mirage]

No I just want to clear story sir

[silent spear]

Doesn't archetto s3 expand her range?

[silver mirage]

Anyway I cleared it after some runs

[silent spear]

Archetto on the left and you could borrow rosmontis for the right

thats how I did it

[glass monolith]

Slap them with Archetto +1 range skill/Pozy writer/canta knives etc etc etc

Oh my Discord chat scroll took vacation

[fiery wave]

To people who use this core
What modules and skill you run on them all the time?

[storm current]

Gladiia mod3 m6

Irene s3 m3

Specter s2 mod X is fine

If you want to use modY, use s3

Skadi can just be s2 or s3 and go with modX

ModY bonus isnt important

[fiery wave]

Thanks! Any tips for their usage?

[storm current]

uh

not much to it other than deploy units and kill stuff while not dying

[fiery wave]

So with these modules generally it makes this core more flexible to fit any team and stage instead of making them AH only
And they still function well together alone (3-4 OP clear only I mean) without those AH only modules, right?

[storm current]

depend

i think you can use spalter s2 as a solid unit

skadi is more situational as helidrop

and gladiia is mainly for tank/vanguard

[proud drift]

And holes

[static cloak]

is passenger good

[cursive wedge]

sure

[radiant plinth]

isitgood

[fiery wave]

[cursive wedge]

[brazen arrow]

I see youre an Abyssal Hunter enjoyer as well

[modern plover]

Another one joins the hivemind

[frigid kite]

You can Surtr both sides

[wary wing]

true AH enjoyers have maxed andreana

[hidden needle]

How do u beat Point of no return?

this is my second time getting here

and last time i got destroyed

i can show pictures of my relics if need be

i have 172 atk speed added and -30% health on emeies

[summer jacinth]

does nightingale's cages last the same no matter the level?

[wind silo]

Man

9-11 rn

I'm too damn tired to do this late night

And still wonder what to do with 9-14

Because most guides I saw use chalter like it's a requirement for low rarities

[modern plover]

Low rarity guides often have one hard carry so

[proud drift]

You might wanna look for welfare only guides

Rather than low rarity

[hidden needle]

oh i actually beat that one myself with out chalter what ops do u have?

[wind silo]

Wait

[proud drift]

You’re not gonna like his list

[hidden needle]

y not?

[proud drift]

It’s maximum cope and pain

[cerulean drum]

How the heck do I deal with the stuns from the daily CC?

[proud drift]

Use Lee

[wind silo]

[cerulean drum]

Good idea, thanks

[wind silo]

It's not that bad

[wary wing]

ppl should stop expecting 3stars to clear newer content with average strategies

[proud drift]

Those 3* are all pot1 btw

[wary wing]

stat creep in enemies is real

[hidden needle]

oh

[wind silo]

Scene truly hard carry me ngl

I mean literally spam guards

And first one is free deploy

Which is nice

[hidden needle]

ngl

idk how ur beating this with out borrowing at least

[wind silo]

Probably gladiia s2

Or

Depending on placement change

Tequila

Will have to see

not like imma do 9-14 rn anyway

Because there's still 9-11 and my battery gonna die

[hidden needle]

well the sniper units is what ur problem is

[wind silo]

Maybe I should borrow kralter

Again

Not gonna try anything rn

Wanna rest

Brb

[frigid kite]

Did it already?

[hidden needle]

no im getting help in the IS chat atm thought

[frigid kite]

Ok, gl

[hidden needle]

ty

[agile ember]

How do u trust farm?

[placid birch]

More of a #help question really. Trust gain is equal to sanity spent, setup autos of your farming stages with as few ops as possible and the rest are for trust

[livid delta]

Change squad on an annihilation where you unlock the skip ticket option
Kill 1 enemy and save squad
Use skip tickets to get instant trust points

[burnt pine]

kill them before they stun u

[burnt pine]

what is this tec

[neat skiff]

So, lets say a stage costs 12 sanity.
If you bring 1 operator to clear the stage then that 1 op gains 12 trust.
If you bring 12 ops then they all gain 12 trust.

Trust farming is bringing the least amount of high trust operators to a stage you will run a lot.

[agile ember]

Oh wait

It's for the efficiency

Makes sense

Kk thnx

[cunning river]

I'm told I'm too late to get the trim medal?

[cursive wedge]

trim for what

[cyan gorge]

9 hours too late

[cyan gorge]

clearing r18 on permanent map, you get trimmed by completing it during week 1

[cursive wedge]

ah right

[safe knoll]

what skill is best to use on gladiia for an abyssal hunter squad?

[solemn anvil]

depends on the situation tbh,s2 is good long duration enemy waves while s3 is good when the enemy waves is compact

since you're running AH squad maybe gladiia s3 is better because spalter can cover for that long duration with spalter s3

or you can double down and use gladiia s2 to chain spalter s3 when it ends

[merry narwhal]

Long term I'd go for s3 on both Spec2 and Gladiia because of spec2's SP module. If you need invulnerability you can just use spec1 in the future. Don't ask me when they'll be lifting the alter restriction for global though

[solemn anvil]

spec 1 = specter (guard) right
so many names nowadays its gonna get funni real fast

[safe knoll]

I've been using s2 on the OG specter so far, should I be using her as more of a permanent unit rather than a fast redeploy?

[merry narwhal]

Yeah, it's fine, but tbh it's almost impossible for an ah member to die nowadays

[safe knoll]

yeah they're crazy with the module levels - how much should I level them up?

[merry narwhal]

That's why spec2 s2 kinda fell off. Considering how expensive modules are I'm seeing more potential for her second one

[safe knoll]

I mean op levels not module levels, I have those maxed

[merry narwhal]

60 is sufficient

[safe knoll]

I like her S2 if you want to force her into her doll form but yeah the damage on the S3 is hard to beat

[merry narwhal]

I simped all of them to max but that's not a must

[safe knoll]

FYI I pulled 6 copies of irene, a silverash, a mudrock and zero specter alters when the banner came around, so I'm relying on friends for spalter

[merry narwhal]

F

That sucks

[safe knoll]

my wife got spalter and irene on the free 10 pull. I'm gonna be salty about this for the rest of the game lol

[merry narwhal]

Rng be like that

[safe knoll]

desire sensor got me good

it knows I'm an eldritch waifu player

[merry narwhal]

Wasn't that like close to 300

[vernal lion]

@proud drift

34 plans

think it needs perfect placements tho

for Exu core

[proud drift]

you actually went for it

psycho behaviour

[vernal lion]

btw I want to try this stage with beta op

[solemn anvil]

buffing skalter over exu?

[safe knoll]

it was 331, but I went for skalter with the spark

the plan was to pull spalter, but the desire sensor had other plans

[proud drift]

also is the warfarin buff a 50/50 lol

[vernal lion]

I activate Warf first and deploy Weedy after that

[proud drift]

oh

[solemn anvil]

i knew that there's a breakpoint in ATK where buffing skalter is better than the dps but doesnt exu s3 works in a way that you always want exu buffed?
correct me if im wrong

[vernal lion]

no, I mean, if you look at the situation like that, you will know why I need Warf there

[proud drift]

skalter kinda forced on that tile

[solemn anvil]

[proud drift]

guessing you had thorns in weedy spot?

[vernal lion]

team is pretty meh

[proud drift]

also someone had to be placed above red gate

could've been thorns as well ig

[safe knoll]

how do you figure out that breakpoint?

[proud drift]

thru maths

[safe knoll]

my brain is too smooth for those

[proud drift]

iirc I saw someone say around 450~?

[safe knoll]

I just like the sea waifus

[solemn anvil]

i remember seeing that discussion in #help
of course i didnt do the math,can barely count two three
iirc the breakpoint is ~440 atk? need to dig it back up to be accurate

[safe knoll]

what's happening there is that it's better to put the attack buff on the skalter that's buffing the unit we're trying to give more dps at that breakpoint, rather than putting it directly on the unit?

[solemn anvil]

yeah its kinda weird and for most people it shouldnt matter really

its just squeezing efficiency to the max

[proud drift]

skalter with trust has 418 atk which becomes 443 atk at lv90 assuming no abyssal operator and shares 60% of it which is 265.8

with warfarin buff she has 819 atk so she shares 491

that's a 226 atk difference

you roughly need 250 buffed by 90% to match the difference

so why is the breakpoint so high

what am I missing

[merry narwhal]

I bought p6 Ling with my spark instead of going for dusk, so I feel you

[safe knoll]

under normal circumstances, it's counterintuitive to need to buff the buffer for a better result rather than buffing the unit directly. in optimized strategies sometimes that can change when mechanics are pushed towards their limits, but the breakpoint is high so that regular players never need to worry about it

[merry narwhal]

The bard buffs other units as well, so it makes sense

[vernal lion]

@proud drift

full gameplay

[solemn anvil]

like i said i dont really remember it properly
i just know its there,you can try digging up discord logs but there's no keyword that can single out that conversation
🙇‍♂️

[proud drift]

i found it here

But

I see what the issue was

The argument for breakpoint

Was using skalter S3M3 as an argument

Not S2

And skalter S3 shares 90% atk

So the breakpoint is MUCH higher

[solemn anvil]

i have commited a cringe; i shall bow my head in shame

[proud drift]

Eh I don’t think it’s that cringe since you said it that emphasizes your uncertainty

So the only ones cringe are the ones who take it for granted

Reason why knowing the whole discussion is better than reading only bits

[frigid kite]

So, do you guys know anything about Saria bug while healing?

[proud drift]

is it the same one hung and gummy has

with some specific interaction they just never autoattack again

[frigid kite]

Lol

Well damn, thing is making my cc runs fuck up

[proud drift]

[main solstice]

i dont think so

that bug only makes so that saria doesnt attack but she can heal

[frigid kite]

Mine is doing the opposite

Attacks but doesn't heal

[main solstice]

i have never seen that

[frigid kite]

But playing on x1 makes it happen less

https://youtu.be/JI4Xr3UBVvc here's an example I found

[turbid badge]

lol

[proud drift]

HUH

charge gets consumed

wtf

[frigid kite]

First time i've seen this happening tho

Anyways

[flat sapphire]

skadi alt s3m3 is 110% inspire

[proud drift]

oh

right

[tidal sedge]

oh shit the saria healing bug

[proud drift]

mine was m0

idk why I said 90%

[tidal sedge]

I forgot that was a thing

[tidal sedge]

it's when saria gets healed above 50% before her own heal triggers iirc

oh wait it says that in video description

anyway ye it sux

also in that video it's extra fucked because saria loses another charge after the first one for no reason

like the first heal has the bug happen and fails and the second charge disappears like magic

[frigid kite]

Good to know

[tidal sedge]

I have no idea how the disappearing charge bug works tho

ig some kind of result of the other bug

[frigid kite]

From what I saw on gameplay, is just really that she gets healed at the same time she triggers the heal, maybe fps affect too? Idk, is the first time I've seen this happening, probably other time with Talulah, at least i'm not crazy

[proud drift]

basically don't use shit like warfarin s1 with saria I guess?

[frigid kite]

Nah it's not like that, some other conditions probably make it happen too, no idea neither

[tidal sedge]

yeah I don't think anyone's ever done in depth testing on it

[sweet flower]

guys does this good

lungmen outskirts

[frigid kite]

Be aware of right side

Thats it to be honest

[sweet flower]

okay

[glass monolith]

I realized i haven't collected alternate operators tasks at all, guess i found goal for week 2 of CC

[storm current]

Is that uh

S2 siege?

[sweet flower]

s1

[frigid kite]

He got the big thinking

Gooe job

[glass monolith]

During my first run of Anni 2 i wasted 1 deploy slot because i assumed enemies on left right (I don't have problems in directions and know where are west and east on maps) will come in packs while Rope just soloed that side

[storm current]

Anything that leak will get pushed by shaw anyway

[ashen shadow]

right wont leak

this almost the same as my setup when 2 yrs ago never leaked

[cursive wedge]

who are these

[fallen yew]

Probably IS1 bosses?

[storm current]

yep

rusthammer, frozen monstrosity and gravestone in that order

[cursive wedge]

ahhh

thanks

so is jetboy and golem also is1 bosses

[storm current]

yes

[cursive wedge]

coolz

[storm current]

same with forsaken

[cursive wedge]

[glass monolith]

CN got skill preview of 5 star Quartz

[frigid kite]

Her S2 sounds interesting

Like a charge of Great sword for 6* Crusher MH unit collab...........

[smoky cypress]

[wind silo]

Anyone got the stage lines for chap 9

I mean like straight progress from a stage to another

because like I thought there's 9-14 right after 9-13 wth

so, if anyone has pic list of the stages from 9-13 till chap 9 end it'll be much appreciated

[molten swan]

there's only like uh

2 s9 stages

iirc

dw too much

[wind silo]

Still

[molten swan]

nope that's the only s9 stage

after that's it straight to 9-19

[wind silo]

Oh

???

[molten swan]

9-20 9-21 story nodes

[wind silo]

9-14 doesn't exist?

[molten swan]

?

I mean

after s9-1 it just progresses normally

there's no more s9 stage until 9-19

well until another update iirc that introduces new mats and unlocks a new branch

it branches out early on so don't worry

I can't say much you're better off asking cn peeps

[wind silo]

Nah I just need to know if there's additional s-stage

In main story progress

[molten swan]

there is

but not for a while

and it's a branch

not in the main route

[wind silo]

So only this one and normal till 9-19

[molten swan]

mhm

[wind silo]

What about chap 10

10-1 till 10-11 normal?

Why I kept touching the wrong symbol

[frigid kite]

10 doesn't have Subs

[wind silo]

Cool

So about 16 more stages

17

[radiant plinth]

i mald

until ir ealized

im litterally

1 frame late

and then i lose everything

[frigid kite]

[radiant plinth]

this is the 7th time

im 1 frame off

[frigid kite]

Since you manage to kill everything else, if you get the frame it's a win?

[radiant plinth]

yes

i need this 1 frame

[frigid kite]

Wow, best of lucks then

[radiant plinth]

this is frame 65

i have lineups

[normal flume]

been trying and failing to crack Lingering Shangshu Trails with only my scavenger at e2. i assume since this is an annhiliation, the requirements are higher?

checking out kyo's low-end squad guide and he has two non-support e2s

[storm current]

You only need the dps unit to be e2

And a bunch of low level to deal with the scrap

[normal flume]

unfortunately the only e2 dps i have is Exu

Here are my highest leveled ops

i've been able to reach until the teapots show up, which is where my attack speed fails me

[storm current]

Uh

Its squad issue

You shouldnt use most of those ops since they arent good for tokens

[somber falcon]

current anni is a bit too early for you rn imo

[normal flume]

should i focus on getting archers and casters then?

what do you mean by "early"? not offended or anything, just wanna make sure what you mean

like i'm too underleveled?

[storm current]

Do you have ethan pudding podenco

Its not level issue

Since most enemies die to fiametta support

[normal flume]

i do have e1 lvl 1 Ethan

[somber falcon]

more of a roster issue

[storm current]

You just need stuff to deal with tokens

[normal flume]

yeah, Kroos and Lava carrying the final corridor helps out

[normal flume]

still not sure what you mean by early lmao

[storm current]

Eh its doable with those level

SN anni will be much more painful

[somber falcon]

basically i think you can come back later with a more diverse/suited roster

since as lolicon said, the trick to IW enemies is to have multi hit/cleave/true aoe hitters, and your ops are all single hit and single target

not to mention the lancers later will probably be rather difficult to tank since only hoshi is there
and they come in three diff lanes

[normal flume]

ah, i see.

i have been leveling click to replace lava, but i see

i actually don't mind perfect clearing this. it'd just be nice to actually get past the second "collect" thing

[radiant plinth]

frame perfect.

[storm current]

Dalao

[normal flume]

@somber falcon @storm current here's a more complete list of my highest leveled ops, for what it's worth

[storm current]

Oh you hava gavialt just use her

S2 btw

[somber falcon]

pluma too

both should help make the stage much easier

[normal flume]

haven't been able to find the right place to place them

if y'all are free rn, i can stream it and you can take a look, see where i'm doing wrong

[storm current]

Wait a bit

[normal flume]

sure thing

just ping me whenever you're down

[storm current]

something like this

borrow fiametta on red tile

dark green gavialt

black pluma

brown silence

on the left side

shaw at very bottom to push token

ethan ahead

and scavenger infront to block early mob and generate dp

occasionally you will also need gravel to block the blue dragon for fiametta to kill it

[normal flume]

oh wow, this is completely different from how ive been using

[storm current]

with this set up your main goal is spawn killing

[normal flume]

i've been using the vertical corridor to wittle them down with exu and jessica

[storm current]

pluma is good at killing furniture

while gavialt can break down the tough enemies

fiametta will chip them down

on the left you may want to use like

podenco s2

pudding e0 work

lava/shirayuki is fine

[normal flume]

hold on, lemme get my stream up

so at the left, going down, it's Shaw, Ethan, Scavenger?

[storm current]

myrtle should be enough

but you can do scavenger s1 if you want to afk

since the first 300 enemies are pretty much the same thing

[radiant plinth]

getting it twice in a row

massive confidence boost

[normal flume]

i'll give it a shot, what role is Fiiametta again?

[storm current]

🛐

[normal flume]

i mean, what class

[storm current]

6* sniper btw

[normal flume]

i'm streaming in Rhodes Island if you wanna look

[storm current]

you can check kyostinv guide if you want the timing for gravel

[normal flume]

shoot, i don't have my gravel leveld up

[storm current]

its fine

e1 should work

[normal flume]

fiametta's a sniper?

do you have her? i don't have her in support

just checked

oh, nvm

[radiant plinth]

messed up

boss being on the left

gives me 120s

but fucks up

my targeting

[normal flume]

oh wait, i quit ,y run cause i wanted to change my scav skill back to s1

and now FIametta's gone

damn, i messed up, cant get her anymore

@storm current what skill should Fia have again?

[normal flume]

so is she supposed to wipe the enemies out before they get to the final corridor?

@storm current got until the metal peacocks arrived. should my gav-alter be s2?

[storm current]

ye

[normal flume]

or are you working from a guide that i can look at?

i see. they wiped out my la pluma

[storm current]

uh

peacock has high def

you will need an art source on top or use gavialt

or you may even swap gavialt with pluma

[latent halo]

@dark skiff 90 ur archetto and let me add u

Fucc wrong ping

[storm current]

and push silence 1 tile above

also lol

[latent halo]

@proud drift 90 ur archetto and let me add u

Looking for 1 to do is start

60 lvl archetto is kinda cringe

AA needs all the stats

@proud drift

Sleeping

[merry birch]

I need help with making an auto-deploy for 10-11....

It's just that I have no brain....

[latent halo]

Is 10-11 the red stage

[merry birch]

Yeah

[latent halo]

That stage is indeed cancer

Do u have nian

[cyan gorge]

10-11 normal or adverse?

[merry birch]

I need Oriron Clusters to upgrade my new and shiny Bagpipe skills...

Adverse

[merry birch]

No

[cyan gorge]

oof

[storm current]

uh

post map

[merry birch]

I'm not old enough to have nian

[latent halo]

The = shape map

Ling Kal mud ?

[merry birch]

This cancerous map

[latent halo]

Yes the = shape map

[storm current]

i dont remember what i did aside from nuke

[merry birch]

I have ling..... But only Mod lvl 1 (but she is pot 4 so idk)

[latent halo]

Use the big dragon

And get ntr and surtr with u

[storm current]

@latent halo literally +

[cyan gorge]

I brought this apparently to adverse

[merry birch]

I have NTR, but no surtr

[latent halo]

Buddy , can u not

Bottom lane ntr s3

Top lane use ling dragon

Also give ntr some healings

Saria if can

[normal flume]

got past 200, thanks

[merry birch]

No Saria Only hung

Fr I don't have saria

[latent halo]

Uhhh

Someone behind ntr

For extra block

And use ng ig

[merry birch]

.... I don't have NG

[latent halo]

Any good healings then

[turbid badge]

nice colors

[latent halo]

Rosmo moment

[merry birch]

This is the best I have...

[cyan gorge]

I remember I held bottom with Horn + Exu
top was Kazemaru + cycling Irene/Surt/Silverash

[turbid badge]

if u look closley theres a aegir inside of there

[merry birch]

[turbid badge]

hmm

[latent halo]

Ptilo is fine

[merry birch]

Lumen literally Skill lvl 6

[latent halo]

Add more if failed

[cyan gorge]

Warf and ptilo (no mod at the time) were all the heals I needed

[turbid badge]

aw man

[merry birch]

Kk

But since I will be using Nalter S3, what should be the timing

[merry birch]

Bruh Nalter still died....

[violet hinge]

How do I beat this annoying ass level (10-11 advert environment), before anyone says Use Support chalter or Ling that shit didnt work and my team kept dying

[cyan gorge]

Kal borrow + Pozy can handle bottom lane

[violet hinge]

Lets see about that

If it dosent work im fucking giving this shitty level up

[cyan gorge]

I cleared with this

Kazemaru and Pozy were the mvps

[violet hinge]

Your using 6 stars I dont have

Its possible because you used those 6 stars

Meanwhile me literally only have apple pie girl,Gavial alter,Pozy and muddy

[cyan gorge]

I can try with Exu

my gavail isn't built

[violet hinge]

Still didnt work

This were the team's I had to fucking used but all of them still died

[cyan gorge]

I tried Mud but the status always ends up being the death of her

[violet hinge]

She kept on dying in seconds

The standard was way easier than this shit

I did it in first try but this shit is taking me 3 hours

[vernal lion]

you can try this

remember to deploy Galter and Mud last

[violet hinge]

Both of them die in seconds

[cyan gorge]

I got whatever this is to work

replace Bag with any lane holder

[vernal lion]

Galter won't die if you proc s3 because it will decrease 50% dmg taken

[violet hinge]

You were using other 6 stars, this dosent help

[blazing sentinel]

If u know how the cannon works rhese stages require 0 brain

[cyan gorge]

the only important 6*s were Kal and Pozy

[violet hinge]

I know how it works

[violet hinge]

Thats not the problem

[blazing sentinel]

Whats the problem

Bring 2 defenders above and 2 blockers or less down

[violet hinge]

The fucking enemies are the real problem

[vernal lion]

then just solve the problem

[blazing sentinel]

Dps check

Level chexk

See the enemy low res to what

Use the cannon to ur advantage

Above

[violet hinge]

Ok this isnt helping at all

[blazing sentinel]

I’d say monster and a blocker can solo the whole lane above

Use skill 3

[cyan gorge]

I just used Monst3r + pozy on bottom lane and threw literally everything else at top lane

[blazing sentinel]

If u have W use her skill 2 put her down

[cyan gorge]

and it worked

[violet hinge]

You were using other 6 stars though

[cyan gorge]

3 of them, one you can borrow and one you don't even need

[violet hinge]

Meanwhile me

[cyan gorge]

the others you have

[violet hinge]

Like I said

They keeps getting fucking killed in seconds

[vernal lion]

can you just

try it yourself?

[violet hinge]

I did it for 3 hours

Redoing and trying new strats

None worked once

[vernal lion]

then instead of saying they're dying, you can figure out how to save them

[blazing sentinel]

Didn’t have to use them all

[blazing sentinel]

I used this team replace with who can work like them

[violet hinge]

Bro ur using other 6 stars

[blazing sentinel]

I didn’t use them all

[violet hinge]

Still

[gray kayak]

Try this

[blazing sentinel]

Mudrock monster up blemishine down W down

Ok let me say this

[violet hinge]

I dont have fucking blemishine and Kalsit

[blazing sentinel]

Bring 4 defenders

There u go

[gray kayak]

Borrow kal

[supple mountain]

skill issue

[blazing sentinel]

Problem solved

[violet hinge]

My defenders sucks ass and always die in seconds (except Cardigan and muddy since both managed to hold them a bit off)

Before dying a minute later

[blazing sentinel]

Level them up

Trust bro

Failing is good

Ur improving

[violet hinge]

Woult that even make a difference

[blazing sentinel]

Yes

[violet hinge]

Failing for 3 hours is not good

[blazing sentinel]

Hoow bro

[violet hinge]

Nothing changed

[blazing sentinel]

Let me see ur team again

[violet hinge]

I had to make 2 teams

Both still failed miserably

[blazing sentinel]

It might be level problem then

[violet hinge]

How

[blazing sentinel]

Hmm

[violet hinge]

Team 1 were mostly level 50-60

How is that a level problem

[blazing sentinel]

Bro u have mudrock man

[violet hinge]

Dies in 1 minute

[blazing sentinel]

Put mudrock up with gummy

Or kalsits if u have

[violet hinge]

Gummy underleveled

Oh no underlevelled not leveled at all

Shes still level 1

[blazing sentinel]

Then put gavial skill 3 down

[violet hinge]

And my resources are scarce

[blazing sentinel]

And use 2 healers

[violet hinge]

Didnt work

[blazing sentinel]

And use exia

[violet hinge]

I used different strats

[storm current]

spot work

[blazing sentinel]

Mudrock and another defender up i think is enough really

[violet hinge]

I tried to do kyostin, did not work and he died

[blazing sentinel]

Gavial down side also works promis

[storm current]

are you sure you use the same risk

[blazing sentinel]

Use lappland with her as well

Only activate her s3 shen u actually need it

[violet hinge]

Unlike this stage in the patriot stage I actually have hope since that had a bit of improvement slowly, this shit level had no change for 3 hours

[blazing sentinel]

U can alo replace lapland with another defender just make sure u place that defender first before mudrock or the second defender above