strategy

[frigid kite]

Stall until 2nd phase and kill 2nd phase with pillar

[vernal lion]

yea, get to know about their movements

may help you a lot

[proud drift]

nah my plan is to stall mandragora phase 1 on bottom lane and wait for every deploy to recharge

blemishine + ptilopsis + kaltsit

SHOULD be enough to stall her

especially since blemi module reduces the laser damage by quite a lot

[frigid kite]

Sounds good

Pozy destroys her anyways

[proud drift]

only issue is I need to somehow make sure flamethrowers don't hit ptilopsis

so I'll try a gravel placement

[frigid kite]

Oh

[proud drift]

and cope that they die before gravel dies

causing chain kaboom

at the same time bottom lane has evoker

[frigid kite]

She takes a long time while she goes over there

[proud drift]

yeah and when she walks out

a bit after an evoker walks out

[frigid kite]

You can try killing everything else and take a break while stalling

[proud drift]

does fireball elemental damage go down with distance too?

or no?

maybe I can have ptilo tank a couple fireballs then

until mandra walks out of range and surtr can take over evoker instead

[livid delta]

Elemental damage is a % of the damage taken before defense / res mitigation but after attack mod iirc

[vernal lion]

the size of explosion and its atk are based on distance,
the shorter distance is, the bigger size and higher atk it will be

[livid delta]

By the way did you know

That because elemental damage is based off enemy attack

You can mitigate it using shamare

[proud drift]

I wanted to bring shamare

yea

but

I think scene will be more important

to reveal the invis shits

well

I'll try a run and see how it goes

I wonder if I can do the same surtr meme without texas in squad

+1 dp might make a big diff

[cursive wedge]

no castle or justice

[livid delta]

I wonder if you can just stall mandra with kirara and ng

[proud drift]

hmm attempt 1 failed

no skill chalter kinda poopoo at clearing things

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

activated surtr skill too early too

so she died before hitting last guy with final hit

[cursive wedge]

skill issue

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_maNONsbtI&ab_channel=柠檬味の猪

hmm interesting

[proud drift]

[vernal lion]

it's been 10 months, why didn't I find out this one

[proud drift]

it's always silverash and chalter

and I was flamed by friends for saying that silverash is specific to how he's used and nothing can quite replace him

"don't follow guides 1:1"

when silverash has his niche used in a specific way

[cursive wedge]

Just use ling

[vernal lion]

deal with it, SA is pretty good to deal with hover bois and invis dude

[proud drift]

ya ik

I tried to argue to them that SA is actually specific to how he's used

but no "if only there were operators who could do the same thing as him"

proceeds to use thorns as an argument

also I hate this kind of mald

having to find the right microsecond to use the skill

so she kills as she dies

[cursive wedge]

what ldplayer are u using

[proud drift]

that surtr is basically how I compensate for sash

uhh idk

9. something

[cursive wedge]

ah

[proud drift]

idk how to check

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

Archetto S2 tho goes kinda hard ngl

against dublin

[cursive wedge]

why are u bothering with h stages tho

[vernal lion]

not to say, that Chetto will die cause of pillar

[proud drift]

I know

I will undeploy her on/before phase 2

she'll be useless anyways after all enemies pre-p2 die

[proud drift]

I just wanna be done with them

and forget they exist

I did all H stages up to that

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

only black snake caused me problems

[cursive wedge]

just don’t do them

[proud drift]

and h9-5 and h9-6

h9-5 made me feel mald of unimaginable kind

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

ok

archetto S3 went harder than S2

she actually cleared most enemies of that wave by herself

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

ok time for hard part

flamethrowers + mandy

THERE'S ANOTHER EVOKER????

THERE'S ONLY SO MANY THINGS I CAN DEPLOY

[latent monolith]

You can clearly deploy 2 more things wdym

[radiant plinth]

kal + mon

[proud drift]

yeah but

well

I didn't know

ptilo can actually survive

2 flamethrowers

• elemental proc

she'd die to a single one before

right now I entered stall mode

[cursive wedge]

why don’t u mon3tr the boss

[proud drift]

deployed pozemka to waste laser on her

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

because I don't want to kill her yet

I want to redeploy my stuff

fuck blemi died

[cursive wedge]

L defender

[proud drift]

well

issue is

I panicked my deployments

I deployed kaltsit in a very bad spot

that didn't heal blemi

[cursive wedge]

do u need aoe heals

or can st work

[proud drift]

mmm

ptilo S2

was specific here

to heal thru flamethrowers+laser

and also keep fia healthy

my issue was kaltsit's deployment

and not knowing there was gonna be A SECOND FUCKING EVOKER

[cursive wedge]

[proud drift]

well

I still popped her phase 2

at a wrong time

no surtr for the funny dudes

[vernal lion]

"and then, meet the 3rd one..."

[proud drift]

oh ye I knew there's gonna be one after p2

bruh I forgot to pillar so she didn't take the pillar hit there

[vernal lion]

I wonder if Pozy has enough dmg to kill p2

[proud drift]

I fucked typewriter placement

cuz I didn't know she's gonna afk in a 2nd spot

lol

well

cause of panic I failed my stuff

but I think I can do it?

it was very close

I forgot to pillar

so that's 25%~ of her hp

I can STILL pillar her tho

[vernal lion]

bot on above of the pillar, monster on the left of Mandra

[proud drift]

I forgot

to press blemi s2

I would've done it without leak

she actually died

kaltsit s3 comes up fast enough

while she's pillared

lol

if only I didn't sleep

was too focused thinking of whether I can kill mandragora or not

yep

blemi S2+kaltsit+ptilo

actually heals thru laser

and M0 S2 cycles JUST long enough

I FUCKING DID IT

Scene was actually clutch as fuck tho

[hidden needle]

any sugestions on beting this?

i keep leaking the drones

[vernal lion]

is your sniper dead or smth

[cursive wedge]

kal can hold the top/ bottom

mud and lapp can deal with other lane

[hidden needle]

no its frozen

[cursive wedge]

bring more sniper

[proud drift]

are you baiting?

if it's frozen it's the bomb drones right

[hidden needle]

no

the turrets

[proud drift]

huh what freezes them then

[vernal lion]

don't deploy in there

[proud drift]

a single pillar won't freeze your ops

if you deploy in range of both it will permafreeze them

[cursive wedge]

don’t have ur sniper in the range of two of those

[hidden needle]

im pretty sure i dont so ig it is the bomb

[cursive wedge]

what’s the stage number

imma try a clear

[hidden needle]

6 14

[cursive wedge]

k

[hidden needle]

these are the only other snipers i have who do i replace?

[proud drift]

you can also use pozemka

for them

[hidden needle]

no i put them right in front of the exit gates

[vernal lion]

I think the bomb applied freeze to them, absolutely

[proud drift]

it does have bomb drones

you need to bait these

[hidden needle]

aight

do i just bait them with a healer?

[proud drift]

with red

or gravel

red will work just fine

or should at least

[hidden needle]

how do i bait with red it cant bait the middle one

nvm im dumb

i thought they had so much less range

[proud drift]

it's like 2 tiles range

budget silverash

[sick summit]

\

[cursive wedge]

woah

[sick summit]

What is a good team for CB-EX5

bc i keep failing

[hidden needle]

ty but i just beat it as u sent it lmao

he owns ash ;-;

im so Jelly as a Ash main in r6

[cursive wedge]

ah

[sick summit]

i also have the other r6 operators

[sick summit]

im an Azami main myself 🙂

[hidden needle]

im a classic Jager Ash main im so shocked Jager is not in the game maybe one day

[sick summit]

maybe

[toxic bridge]

fellas

is vermeil, any useful?

[full finch]

verm is okay
just that kroos/may is better

[toxic bridge]

UWAAAA

i like the fox smoll person tho

[livid delta]

Vermeil SUCKS

[proud drift]

Platinum

[livid delta]

She trades damage for multi-target and it results in her being mediocre at both

Just leave her e1 for base and forget she exists

[proud drift]

ngl

xolli said verm is okay

but then said

kroos is better

doesn't that make verm very bad then

if a 3* is better than the 4*

[livid delta]

Actually I wonder if mod3 fixes her

[livid delta]

Kroos is better than every 5* marksman before e2 wdym

[proud drift]

wtf

[livid delta]

Just because a unit is better and more cost effective for the power

Doesn't mean they're objectively better in a vacuum

[hidden needle]

any sugestions on how to beat this

ngl i dont fully understand this mission

[proud drift]

Where are you failing

[fair pasture]

Phy nuke is fine for free right? I always go for art because of the guide I based

[proud drift]

Pozemka s3 one activation was enough for both p1 and p2

[hidden needle]

everywhere ngl lmao the flying thigs leak and even if i put monster on white monster dies quikly

[proud drift]

But I was doing r8

[hidden needle]

im doing with out mods atm

but ppl die quickly in it

[fair pasture]

Die because the collision explode effect?

[hidden needle]

i think so ye

or at least monster does

[fair pasture]

My mon3 can survive 2 explosions

I have exu at bottom left to clean it a bit

[proud drift]

One way to deal with them is to let them explode in middle

Don’t block there

You can leak first blindey if you don’t wanna bother with them

Just focus on making sure all of them explode in middle

I did r8 without killing any of the bombs, they all blew up middle

Had to block one right side with gravel tho to make sure that it explodes with others

[hidden needle]

i dont understand sorry

since the things cant be blocked unless monster is white

[proud drift]

The color above them is the color that can block them

They explode if they touch opposite color bomb

Into a very painful boom

[hidden needle]

oh but monster is dying whille blocking white

like he is on the white spot

and i have mud on the black one

[proud drift]

I'll show you what you can do

BUT

it's only a show of what to do

not how to do it

so units can be different

[hidden needle]

well an idea is always nice

[proud drift]

also this is gonna be risk 0

[vernal lion]

DP R3 is so far a free risk lmao

[fair pasture]

The mission risk is the smarty +300% hp one

[proud drift]

actually

I'll take both risk3s

[vernal lion]

I pick 2 R3 and 1 R2

[proud drift]

since you can do the same without risks

with risk3s it'll just make it so I can place units

smarties actually get 3hit by bagpipe on r0

[hidden needle]

oh i finnaly figured out whats killing

its the white wisp

cuz it cant be blocked

[fair pasture]

I had mon3 to block so takes like 2 hits to kill r3 smarties

[vernal lion]

actually, if you can't kill it, just let it "meet" with the other and boom

[hidden needle]

wym smile?

[fair pasture]

yea like put mon3 more right instead of the attribute tile, don’t put in middle

[proud drift]

ok so I won't record full thing cause I failed a thing, if you want I can record how I did the full thing with my units

but I'll show you an idea of how to deal with wisps

[hidden needle]

but then the guys leak right ?

since they cant be blocked

[elder flume]

the wisps blow up themselves when they meet another with different attribute

[proud drift]

you can let wisps do this

and leak the swordfish that comes

[fair pasture]

Smarty? Nonleak, two opposite smarty go boom boom. They can be blocked btw

[hidden needle]

ohhh

i didnt realize the wisp did that

[vernal lion]

joke aside, Gladiia s1 did well on that Bag tile

[proud drift]

ok but did gladiia generate DP

[vernal lion]

kill enemy = no need DP

as long as you don't pick DP R3

[fair pasture]

Low cost = no dp

[hidden needle]

does silence allow me to block the smarty?

[vernal lion]

nothing more scary than a 2-unblockable-ghost goes boom right at your team camp

sounds like suicide bomb

[fair pasture]

Welp

Lapp can silence the bomb maybe not sure about block

Ok ill test with my precious lapp

[analog kiln]

smarties are silence immune

in fact every WR mob is silence immune

[proud drift]

@hidden needle here's a better clip of doing it, this is risk8 btw

just uh

make sure you kill Free before the missiles go off

I totally did not forget that a blindey swapped colors so I failed the run thus I couldn't show till the end

(but yea, after that just 2 blindeys come, one black one white)

[analog kiln]

I forgot how much of a joke riskless free is

free free

[proud drift]

and this is how you blow up the ones

that come together as one color

[hidden needle]

i see

[proud drift]

he does have one risk

all enemies +30% hp

[hidden needle]

ty

[proud drift]

[analog kiln]

[vernal lion]

smarty with atk risk = cc9 ptsd

[proud drift]

don't remind me of cc9

that daily was so painful

a friend had to help me clear it

[vernal lion]

"Exu, go go"

[proud drift]

I had blemi facetank him in the same spot

thorns on the color tile

and someone far in the distance taking farts

cuz global range

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

joke on you, I have planned this so far

[proud drift]

wait

-0.22

is she bugged

for this long

[vernal lion]

-0.22 is from s3m3

[proud drift]

ye but it's supposed to be 0.11

according to gamepress at least

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

the power of buff and debuff

it's all about math

to make it easy

[proud drift]

and also having the units

[hidden needle]

aight finnaly beat it to lv 3

now to figure out how to beat risk 8

[vernal lion]

I'm pretty sure Free with 120.000 is more painful than Undertides boss

[proud drift]

I used both risk3, +HP risk1 and only 1 firecracker

but idk how your units would go vs that

I do think that's the easiest combo tho

[hidden needle]

the darkness risk 3 looks scary ngl

[proud drift]

is under tides boss supposed to be scary

[hidden needle]

im rhinking all r1 high value target and deep concetration

[vernal lion]

it's just stat check

I try it with E0 and yea

stat check totally

[proud drift]

I had fia+thorns+ptilopsis 3op him lol

even then

[proud drift]

thorns was more busy being a blocker

than a hitter

[vernal lion]

I can only deal half of its HP

and then I figure out to borrow my own main acc with Amiya Guard

big cheese

[proud drift]

meanwhile one Fia S2

she was only lv40 too

[vernal lion]

yeah if you use Quercus, Saria and Hung,
I'm pretty sure Fia s2 has 7-8 seconds CD

[proud drift]

oh you're stacked on operators

[vernal lion]

continually

[proud drift]

oih wait

you're not evan

[fair pasture]

Yeah full effort for r8 even♿

[proud drift]

I thought you're evan

[fair pasture]

[vernal lion]

man it's not spider lol

ghost is special

[fair pasture]

Before I test I looked at arkenmy and I was like wtf

Oh I just misread it’s true to silence immunities others false

Dam

All I see was “ silence TRUE “

[agile ember]

Is spalter worth e2? Also what is she suited to?

[agile ember]

Apparently she needs modules as well

[dreamy quail]

is IW-7 stage available to farm?

[storm current]

@proud drift im late but fyi, pozyomka can 1 cycle the boss

[glass monolith]

Are you checking drop rates of stage when it is up as event stage?

[dreamy quail]

what.. the drop rate is not the same when it's not up as event stage?

[dreamy quail]

it has highest drop rate of the rocks so wanted to go there

next option is wr-10 which can be opened

[glass monolith]

Stages don't drop as much material after event is over

[dreamy quail]

sad

[glass monolith]

I recall there being like one event stage which was decent efficiency after event but i guess i never had need in that material

[tidal sedge]

SV-8 for crystal was best for a while but now it's back to r8-11 with ch10 mat drops I think

or ch9

idr which one added the new mats

wait r8-11 doesn't even have the new mat side drops

wonder what changed

should have stayed sv-8 because it's like twice as fast as r8-11

smh

[glass monolith]

I play this game for 1 year and i still have no clue why i need said crystal

[cursive wedge]

what is crystal

[turbid badge]

im assuming there talking about mats

and one of them happens to look like crystal

crystalline componet ig

[frigid kite]

@proud drift did you complete h9-6?

[proud drift]

Yes

[frigid kite]

Gratz

[proud drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByJD-PPL9hA posted it unlisted on youtube as an achievement

11min video

So can’t have it somewhere in discord dms

Surtr timing will haunt me forever

[fresh copper]

H9-6?

That's an easy stage compared to the inferno modes of chapter 10

[neat skiff]

Ehh, 9-6 gave people a lot more trouble.

[molten swan]

Sounds subjective and lack of proof

Clueless

[neat skiff]

Calling chapter 10 harder is also subjective.

Especially since this chat was flooded with people asking for help on H9-6.

[molten swan]

Were you not here when ch10 dropped then

[neat skiff]

I was.

Lot of cannon baiting and less "you don't have enough operator levels to get past the 6 minute mark, let alone get to the point the boss spawns."

[whole crater]

H96 was def harder than h103

Skill timing was a lot more important

And mandra as a boss was just worse

[neat skiff]

Nothing quite like high damage + tile can no longer be used.

[molten swan]

Nothing quite like cannon+60% of the mobs have arts dot

[whole crater]

What has arts dot

[neat skiff]

The necrosis elemental damage.

[molten swan]

No

Did you even read h10-3 condition

[whole crater]

No

[molten swan]

Expected

No wonder you think h9-6 is harder

[whole crater]

Yea but I beat the stage within a few attempts without reading it vs like

50 attempts on h96

[neat skiff]

Oh, the boss gives the reborn enemies an arts DoT aura.

[whole crater]

Prob closer to 30 but still hard

[molten swan]

Incorrect

The enemies that spawn those reborn

Also get dot

So yeah basically at least 60% of the map

[whole crater]

Idk I didn't rlly notice it

[molten swan]

Have fun tanking those when you’re waiting for the cannon

[neat skiff]

Yeah, I had a much easier time dealing with that condition I have zero memory of compared to the powerful enemy spam that was H9-6.

[molten swan]

Idfk h9-6 was a much easier experience

[frigid kite]

No way players having a difference experience? Can't be

[molten swan]

No way players gauging a stage difficulty based on their personal experience?
Impossible

[whole crater]

I mean objectively speaking

[frigid kite]

I'd say, having a good AoE burst for at least 2 lanes (or having mudrock) makes H10-3 totally easier

[molten swan]

Mudrock is…

Dead weight for me

[whole crater]

Skill timing, pillar setup, early rush, stronger boss, stronger mobs, longer stage > random arts damage that's negligible and using noir corne to bait

[molten swan]

negligible
How many reborns did you block to say that it’s negligible

[frigid kite]

Oh or having Nightingale right

[molten swan]

Ng 33% uptime :)

[neat skiff]

If you played the stage then it is not uncommon to block 6 reborns minimum.

[whole crater]

Idk I deploy mudrock on left and afk

[frigid kite]

Nightingale + Saria, only problem would be the cannon sadly

[molten swan]

6 reborns ah yes

360 arts damage every second

[neat skiff]

Yeah, Mudrock solo left was a super common strategy.

[molten swan]

Sure seems like negligible

[whole crater]

Non max mudrock tanks it fine tho

[neat skiff]

Easily. Especially S2 since 6 enemies attacking her means she spams her healing.

[whole crater]

Yea

[molten swan]

In any case

H9-6 is equal if not easier than h10-3

You lose some you gain some

[frigid kite]

Can't way to suffer with Ep11 hell stages

[neat skiff]

I know right 😄

Especially Texalter very soon after.

[frigid kite]

Oooh damn right

[latent halo]

Texal when

[radiant plinth]

BRUHHHH

[molten swan]

Ouch

[neat skiff]

After CH 11 since she needs the salt crystal material.

[radiant plinth]

actually doable

[latent halo]

2 more month

[proud drift]

I do wonder if h10-3 will really be any much difficult with ops I have vs h9-6

My particular issue with h9-6 wasn’t mandragora herself, but the enemies that spawn after her phase2

Scene was actually a clutch pickup for me imo to compensate for silverash

Not having silverash made me mald in multiple ways

Though I must admit

Finding a way to stall mandra made P2 cleanup much easier

[tidal sedge]

What did you need invis reveal for in h9-6?

Theres only the shadowblades whom move in separate lanes from their bro guards

Unless I'm forgetting something

[proud drift]

Top lane shadowblades move together with guards

Bottom lane has like 3 or 4 of them spawn at the same time

I was surtr’ing so I needed stealth reveal to catch some of them

Since they’d walk out and stand a bit before moving

Can’t really use a defender to stall them either as they slap arts damage

[tidal sedge]

They move in a way to easily separate them. Guards move in the top row of top lane, shadowblades the bottom row of top lane

[proud drift]

Ye but I blocked top with rocks

To create chokepoint for chalter fia

[tidal sedge]

You can remove the rocks

[proud drift]

Then nobody blocks them

[tidal sedge]

I used a healing defender to block guards to separate them, then shadowblades walk into Pluma and die

[proud drift]

My healing defender was recovering on redeploy from stalling mandra

• I didn’t really have a slot to replace anyone besides maybe scene, but scene’s reveal made surtr clean up bottom lane comfortably

So idk

Everyone in my team played a role at something

[turbid badge]

lu

gl

it was annoying for me to do cannon management

[tidal sedge]

I'm mostly just trying to say SA isn't some super useful boon in particular for that stage, though useful for certain approaches ig

[proud drift]

I enjoyed cc cannon management

Idk the way I saw SA get used in that stage was lowkey exclusive to him

[turbid badge]

pog

[proud drift]

Cause of how his s3 range expands

Like I did create a silverash at home

But issue with silverash at home

When her skill runs out she dies of ligma

[civic nest]

dam this silverash doesn’t hit drones

must be bad

[proud drift]

fr

[tidal sedge]

You had Mudrock to do what I used a 2nd guardian to do

But idk if you could stall Mandra phase 1 like I could

Having time to redeploy ops as I like for post phase change was very nice

[storm current]

H10-3 yet?

[tidal sedge]

Me? Yes.

2 true damage sources trivializes the reborn creations

[proud drift]

I stalled phase1 with blemi S2, ptilo and kaltsit

[storm current]

Dswopey but ye

I didnt use true dmg as much on my first attempt

[proud drift]

I have 2 true damage units + can borrow NTR so idk if I’ll struggle ch10 much

Skalter s3 on first reborn stage made me realise how comfy she will make ch10

[turbid badge]

damage reduction moment

[whole crater]

H96 with 1 useful 6* is rlly hard

[proud drift]

Ye I loved being so tilted I decided to look for guide only to find that

Even kyostin’s “low end” had 2 6*

That I didn’t have

But it did inspire me a bit on how to do the stage

[latent monolith]

It has been done 8op 4 star only but yeah looks hard

[proud drift]

Silvergun is special ok

[shell arch]

Slap me the vid link

[proud drift]

[shell arch]

[clever kernel]

[proud drift]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Of-T55hS3I

I used surtr for bottom lane instead of silverash and I actually had the same effect

[proud drift]

But having to find the right timing so I don’t leak one while also killing everyone was big mald

[shell arch]

Wtfart kyostinv fell off

[neat skiff]

Less fell off and more "some of his strats rely on somewhat tight timing" which causes people to look elsewhere.

[molten swan]

You either low end mald timing or high end sleep

[neat skiff]

Like if a Kyo strat didn't work many people would go to Eckogen since his strats used slightly higher level ops but were more forgiving.

Then Oyuki comes along as a mix of "low op" combined with super popular 6 star that aren't max level and many SL7 it leaves a lot of room for improv.

[storm current]

Oh ye

Oyuki is literally the kyo for jp playerbase

[neat skiff]

For the super maldy "single 6 star + E1 4 star and below on a hard stage" Oyuki is basically useless.

He doesn't do that. He might be 2-5 6 star ops at E2L60.

[proud drift]

In my case I just needed any strat I can work on

[molten swan]

Operator req and timings scale inversely against each other

[proud drift]

At first I was a manchild coping that I need silverash

[molten swan]

That’s a pretty consistent rule

[proud drift]

But I created silverash at home with surtr+scene duo

[clever kernel]

wdym

still cant hit air

[shell arch]

Me when the enemies are drones

[proud drift]

Me when Fia makes enemies dronen’t

[shell arch]

[random light]

Now oyuki_ch took the mantle

[shell arch]

I still watch kyostinv for high end afk clears

[glass monolith]

SN anni Kyo guide

[shell arch]

Suck Nuts stultivera navis has its own anni?

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[shell arch]

What about roombas? Roombas where

[neat skiff]

Like 3 from memory.

Anni 16 is SN. Currently in anni 14.

[shell arch]

Can you edit the roombas?

[neat skiff]

Don't believe so.

You get 4 roombas.

[shell arch]

Frigging hell

[proud drift]

Just silence the mobs that shart

[desert siren]

that makes them silent but deadly

[soft crystal]

Kyos voice honestly is great to listen to

[neat skiff]

Yeah, Jaye is really good in the anni since basically everyone who drops creep goes by 1 tile.

[desert siren]

unfortunately, don't waste roomba

[neat skiff]

If you look at youtube many people don't even use the roombas.

[clever kernel]

the anni wasnt THAT hard iirc, theres no boss u just need to silence most of the mobs

how many reef breaker are there?

[shell arch]

B-but jaye drains dp. Anni don't generate dp

[clever kernel]

they can be sniped iirc too

[molten swan]

[shell arch]

Oh no boss? I sleep

[neat skiff]

There are no more bosses in annis.

Mandra was the last one.

[clever kernel]

should be

[shell arch]

Hammer & archer bros in mn & eun event mix

[clever kernel]

not BK?

[neat skiff]

If that changes in anni 18 we will need to wait and see.

Oh right, BK. I always forget he was 13.

[molten swan]

Was ch9 anni before or after NL anni I forgor

Bruhe

[clever kernel]

before

[neat skiff]

1 - Chernobog
2 - lungmen outskirts
3 - lungmn downtown
4 - grand knight territory outskirts
5 - frozen abandoned city
6 - abandoned mine
7 - flooded seashore
8 - watery tidehollow
9 - long spring wastes
10 - dossoles water gate
11 - south prison
12 - county hillock countryside
13 - night champion show
14 - lingering shangshu trails
15 - chocolate street
16 - gloomy shipyard
17 - testing ground garage
18 - lungmen commercial street

[clever kernel]

i remember it cuz it was when the godsend, anni ticket was introduced

its so nice to not mald anni leaks

[neat skiff]

7

[clever kernel]

they spawn bottom side right? and can be sniped by ifrit

[neat skiff]

Around 250ish and then 350+

Also, reefbreakers are white, not red. They don't hurt all that much.

[proud drift]

Chocolate street

The fuck is that

[clever kernel]

[proud drift]

IC?

[clever kernel]

GA

no boss, prime fia usage

[proud drift]

HUH

[neat skiff]

Guiding ahead. Fiammetta event.

[proud drift]

I’m aware no boss but

It better not have funny kevin spots

Not to mention shieldbros with handheld nuclear warheads

[neat skiff]

Oh, it has a bunch of mortar shield bros.

[proud drift]

Though

Another Fia anni huh

That is quite pog for my m9 fia

[clever kernel]

ye

[proud drift]

[clever kernel]

not that many candy seller iirc

so thats a plus

[neat skiff]

15 honestly doesn't seem too bad as long as you can keep control of the 6 towers.

Not as stat check-y as 12 or 17.

[molten swan]

Fun fact, the suicide cars are silencable

[clever kernel]

17 is mlynar check

[neat skiff]

17 is "hope you get practice with Dorothys vision event".

[clever kernel]

they straight up have a forward melee tile just for mlynar

[neat skiff]

Enemies that can take an absolute beating and ask for more. Then if you mess up some of them can deal either a lot of multi target damage or thousands of damage every few autos to someone blocking them.

[proud drift]

Surely the multi target aren’t casters right?

[neat skiff]

Nah. Phys damage.

[proud drift]

Surely HG wouldn’t make 3+ events in a row where casters give you stage 4 cancer

[clever kernel]

its ok

they got carried in SSS

[neat skiff]

When awake they target the last 6 deployed ops in an absurd range and rapidly attack.

[storm current]

btw

[proud drift]

Oh so prison casters but worse

[storm current]

is anni17 DV theme

[clever kernel]

ye

[neat skiff]

Yup.

[storm current]

what was anni15 theme again

[clever kernel]

GA

[neat skiff]

Guiding ahead.

[storm current]

i wonder if theres a pattern

or is there any theme isnt featured in anni yet

[clever kernel]

nah

the newest anni announced is somehow in lungmen

which means its an old theme

[proud drift]

Wtf is top lane

Why is it just a str8 lane

[neat skiff]

Pain mostly.

Mortar shield bros and casters.

[proud drift]

Oh wait there’s stairs

And uhh

Don’t casters have fire elemental damage

Or was it smth else

[clever kernel]

thats the mortar shield thingy and toy car iirc

[proud drift]

No someone else had it too iirc

[turbid badge]

hm?

dont they use ammo

[molten swan]

Casters have fire ele yeah

[clever kernel]

oh yeah

its casters and toy car

not the shield

[turbid badge]

oh yeah only when they have ammo

[neat skiff]

Ooh, lungmen commercial street. Maybe code of brawl theme.

[clever kernel]

But we had CB with HOSF

On anni 7

[molten swan]

“I’ll fucking do it again”

[neat skiff]

Can never have enough bullies.

[storm current]

Not sure what theme they will use for anni18

[neat skiff]

"Sorry not sorry, 15 block is simply not enough"

[storm current]

What lungmen event did we have recently even

[neat skiff]

Pretty much nothing. Not even in CN events.

[proud drift]

Maybe rat king anni

[neat skiff]

Rat king is code of brawl. Back in 2020.

[storm current]

Wait wait

What about lin/chongus event

Most likely not but is it set in lungmen

[molten swan]

Yen

Or sth

[storm current]

Lungmen is just a small part of yen

So

[neat skiff]

Yan.

[proud drift]

I was thinking it could be a Lin shill anni, but I held that thought

[neat skiff]

The Lin event is super rural. Barely “commercial street”

[storm current]

Do we not have wd theme anni yet

[proud drift]

No emperor blade but we do have a ch8 anni

With ufo and civs

This one has all the wd enemies and ufo

Unless wd has enemies that ch8 didn’t have

[molten swan]

Wd has a lot of unique enemies bro

[proud drift]

Huh really?

[molten swan]

Bruh

The entire event aside from two boss stages have unique enemies

[proud drift]

OH

The boss stage had ch8 enemies

See I only remember the boss stages

[molten swan]

[proud drift]

I completely forgot war phantoms and drone shits are from there

Let’s not have an anni with that theme ok

Hg will find a way to make the archers impossible to spawnkill

[neat skiff]

NGL, I would find equal parts amusing and fun if we had to deal with a CH 7 emperors blade.

[proud drift]

I would rather not have emperor’s blade spawn at 350

Also don’t ch7 eblades just appear, make fun of talulah and disappear?

[neat skiff]

Yup. Invis with, what was then, absurd stats.

[molten swan]

They werent meant to be fightable

[neat skiff]

Nope. But we also didn’t have nearly as much power as we do today.

[storm current]

its actually chapter 8

[neat skiff]

Would certainly make sense.

[storm current]

not sure why he would have stat when he is invincible

[neat skiff]

Poz will shred through that with zero buffs.

[night silo]

how do the daily cc again?

[proud drift]

Wtf crushers have an opponent for tankiness

[neat skiff]

By getting everyone blown up until you remember.

[neat skiff]

Yes, they're called CH 11 trash mobs.

[night silo]

my brin don remembr

forgor 💀

[civic nest]

same 💀

[proud drift]

Let smarties go kaboom middle

Win stage

[night silo]

all i rembr is that i hated this one

[proud drift]

Oh and I wish what I said was meme but

[night silo]

crossbow

[civic nest]

that’s a typewriter 😂

[neat skiff]

It's rather "god sword you spent half your life mastering vs a water gun".

[proud drift]

But yea most of the stage is solved like that

Enemy go boom

Leak 1 swordfish

More enemy go boom

Kill 2 swordfish

Even more boom

Kill weird dragon

Nuclear bombing

Kill last 2 swordfish

[turbid badge]

so true

[radiant plinth]

wow

(i leaked the boss)

(that's part 2 of the strat)

but i got all the regular enemies

[spark bone]

Huh how much hp does the boss lose

[radiant plinth]

-2

[spark bone]

Oh

[radiant plinth]

im grinding the bug tommorow

[remote atlas]

@neat skiff Which strats are you referring to?

[neat skiff]

Stuff like main chapter.

[remote atlas]

Oh?

[neat skiff]

Yup. Kyo pretty much always pops up first in search results but his strats can be rather tight. Especially for 2+ year old guides. If his didn't work then I would scroll down until your video showed up and would typically have an easier time. A not uncommon sentiment.

[remote atlas]

YT Algorithm likes to shit on me for some reason.

[neat skiff]

CE-5 sticks out in my mind as one of the easiest examples.

[whole crater]

I like watching kyo when he gets angry tbh

[radiant plinth]

hi nutogen senpaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

im working out the most cursed strategy in my life

and seeking to be the finisher

of the e0 ch8 project

[tidal sedge]

Question, how long Jesselton's stun actually?

[tidal sedge]

Is it true that Saria really can 1v1 him in Jailer form?

[neat skiff]

Would not surprise me.

[civic nest]

he’s not that strong

[lethal dragon]

In assassin mode he hits hard but jailer mode is whatever

[tidal sedge]

Just want to make sure that his stun wasn't long enough that he could escape

[lethal dragon]

He might stun her and go past her tho slowly

[civic nest]

why are u using saria to solo him tho

💀

[lethal dragon]

-1000 sanity moment?

[civic nest]

real

[tidal sedge]

[proud drift]

At least you’re always the one to appear for paradox

[lethal dragon]

Kyo is a genshin player

[neat skiff]

Has been for years.

[lethal dragon]

why did my brain think that blindeys should be counted as aerial enemies

[vernal lion]

no feet doesn't mean it can fly high enough

[neat skiff]

The near light PV gives a demonstration of why ground units can't hit flying enemies. Blindies barely hover.

It also gave us Platinum kicking FlameTail in the face.

[vernal lion]

basically, the aerial unit is made to be portable and flexible

[neat skiff]

Also several meters above your head.

[vernal lion]

to think if you want to use Siege again, Warf and Saria are unchangeable

I will think about the usage of some "fell" op

[proud drift]

Should I level siege tho

My only 6* vanguard

[neat skiff]

"If you want to"

[proud drift]

Yeah but question is should I

[neat skiff]

"If you want to"

[proud drift]

My question is more on whether she’s good as a 6* vanguard overall

Not comparing to saga or flametail

[neat skiff]

There isn't really any other way to describe her. Especially since 4 and 5 star vanguards do the job of generating DP better than her.

The CC10 cannon targets the operator with the highest block count.

[proud drift]

And if you need a laneholder there’s a 10cost mountain, huh

[neat skiff]

If 2 or more ops have the same block count then last deployed.

[neat skiff]

Among others.

[glass monolith]

I rerolled Healing + Vanguard in recruitment... I hate my life

[split lynx]

didnt ntr drop in and they died

ntr deploy hits air when

[neat skiff]

PV was a huge ass explosion.

[proud drift]

Huh

Healing vanguard has smth?

[neat skiff]

Myrtle exclusive.

[proud drift]

I probably rerolled so many

[neat skiff]

Healing + vanguard or healing + dp-generation.

[glass monolith]

I dont want to talk about Sniper + Survival rerolls

[proud drift]

But it’s ok I accidentally once did a 1 hour recruitment on top op

[neat skiff]

Jessica.

[proud drift]

Healing + caster is the one I’m always looking for, completely forgot the other two

[neat skiff]

Still waiting for survival+defense/defender for Vulcan.

[shell arch]

Defense dps

Support dp rec

Melee debuff

Surv defender/defense

Nuker sniper

Nuker ranged

Guard defense

Specialist slow

Dps healing

Don't forget those

[fresh copper]

You should totally level Siege Awesome

[shell arch]

Oh and aoe debuff

Supporter debuff

[fresh copper]

Especially with her totally not disappointing module

8% atk and def when blocking enemies?

So impactful

[shell arch]

Is that a sarcasm? You're very good at it

[frigid kite]

[proud drift]

I should look at recruit tags more often huh

[shell arch]

I hope no one takes that seriously

[proud drift]

I probably missed so many 4*

[frigid kite]

@shell arch

[shell arch]

*4s are easy to spot
Melee slow
Caster slow
Slow dps
Ranged survival
Sniper survival
Aoe slow
Sniper slow
Dp healing

[shell arch]

[livid delta]

caster + healing my beloved

[shell arch]

Ture

13 certs

[proud drift]

I 100% missed at least 50 4*

[shell arch]

Difference in skill

Even amigo the peak en remembers the tag combo really well

Should i mention you in #salt-mines? Some *5 are really hidden in plain sight

[vernal lion]

that is just "not facing her toward to the enemy"

[proud drift]

The only obvious 5* I had always known was nuker

But

Fartooth is now nuker+ranged/sniper

Uh

Firewatch

Not fartooth

[shell arch]

[proud drift]

I mix them up a lot

[shell arch]

Alright, check #salt-mines in a minute

[sand elm]

you guys think i am gonna need a proper medic for toron 6-7-8 or a skalter will be enough?

core ground units are mud and irene fwiw

[proud drift]

You don’t really need a medic in toron in general

Maybe for 8 cuz boss fart very slowly kills the 2 range tiles

[sand elm]

thanks, i am doing it for the first time wasnt sure if my dps will take any heat or not

[proud drift]

But even then just redeploy ops with a spec A or sth

Well

Ground ops will still take damage

[sand elm]

skalter can heal small damage just not big bursts

[proud drift]

But ranged enemies aren’t in any danger

2vg3def mudrock can tank anything

[sand elm]

2vg3def mud? i run her like 4vg1guard and she still never dies kinda

well i only did the other mine before, that was easier

maybe i should get a 2nd def in squad then

[proud drift]

I cleared toron with irene mud as ground carries

[random light]

nice 247 distinct certs. definitely not waiting for ex wife shoperator

[shell arch]

Screw you Mundo

[sudden coral]

hey guys

i have a question

what should i use drom these tags

caster senior, operator, healing , aoe , defense

[tidal sedge]

in annihilation 3, will putting frostleaf in the middle lane be a good idea?

[vernal lion]

nice clear lmao

[proud drift]

Is that s3 or s2 skalter

I can’t tell

[sudden coral]

guys

tsukehelp

[vernal lion]

as long as you get more atk from other op, frostleaf is pretty meh

[tepid ivy]

I mean it'll be mediocre, but it might function if the rest of your units can carry

[proud drift]

Also wtf did her p1 die to

Did exu S3 last enough for both phases

[vernal lion]

that's my secret

[sudden coral]

anyone can help me

[proud drift]

But wouldn’t skalter s3 be better for these memes?

[vernal lion]

it's called math, dude

[proud drift]

Or does S2 give more overall power due to S3 not lasting long enough or some shit

Yeah S3 gives a lot more inspiration

[vernal lion]

also, it's s2, s3 is when you see the glowing light around her

[sudden coral]

caster senior, operator, healing , aoe , defense

[vernal lion]

btw Aak is not bad at all tho

[sudden coral]

what should i get from these tags

help me pls

[tidal sedge]

i see. i'll note those down, thanks both of you

[sudden coral]

@vernal lion which ones are good

[vernal lion]

healing defender

[tepid ivy]

What do you need? :p

[tidal sedge]

but what about putting pudding on the bottom lane to defeat the defense crushers

i have no gitano

[vernal lion]

ginato is RNG

good luck

[proud drift]

You say math but S3M0 has 80% inspire vs S2M3 60%

[sudden coral]

@vernal lion tell me

[proud drift]

So my only question is whether skalter S3 last shorter than exu S3

That you’d use S2

[tidal sedge]

what is rng, sorry i don't know the terminology yet

[vernal lion]

let me tell you, you see who's above Skalter

[neat skiff]

RNG = random number generator.

[proud drift]

Aak yes

Inspire also includes DEF buff

[tepid ivy]

Gitano is in the guides because of the extended range. Nothing can really replace her there for following a guide

[neat skiff]

Basically luck of the draw for some aspect.