strategy

[neat skiff]

Anything except for the clear screen

It's not a hard concept.

[cosmic dagger]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dD4y1B79e/

[gray stone]

Saved and copied

[silver mirage]

Does it deal aoe damage?

[noble pewter]

its a 3x3 square with 3 more tiles extending out on each side centered on the target

[surreal relic]

Identical to phalanx caster range

[silver mirage]

Ok

Hmm daily I have no idea what to take

[analog kiln]

Bruh?

Most accurate explosion visual

[frigid kite]

That mini nuke looks pretty awesome

[silver mirage]

Need some help with daily

[frigid kite]

Sure

What risk

[silver mirage]

Enough to go to the level 3 one

[frigid kite]

I can help you do risk 8

Wanna?

[silver mirage]

??

Like tel me what to get

And I attempt it first

[frigid kite]

Sure

[silver mirage]

Cause I barely did the level 1

[frigid kite]

Go with that team you already have

You good 👍

[silver mirage]

What risk??

[frigid kite]

I'd pick a Single target healer tho

1 sc

[lime pollen]

Oh huh, just realized this is another one of those stages where Matterhorn does something

He can get above 3000 health and is cheap since he's a 4*

[frigid kite]

Something like that will work, if you want to try it

@silver mirage

You can also put - dp instead of armor risk

[glass monolith]

I run out of rock... Code fucking red

[frigid kite]

[turbid sky]

what are the best specialists for is2

[frigid kite]

Phantom, Gravel for that run killer stage (Unending), Jaye, Weedy of course and Projekt Red sometimes

Pullers and Pushers can also be used if you like that kind of stuff

Mizuki S1

[storm current]

i heard mizuki is pretty good

♿

[glass monolith]

oh my god what the fuck is Sora's paradox

[turbid sky]

which one is unending

[storm current]

the one with a lot of sarkaz charger

[turbid sky]

the ones that usually kill my runs are the one with the fireball guy and the charger one

[storm current]

or sarkaz lancer

[turbid sky]

oh

icic

[tidal sedge]

Yall can someone help with 1-12

[full finch]

isn't that W stage

remember that you can use the explody pillar to stun W for a while

[turbid sky]

yep

[glass monolith]

Here is me doing 1-12 with e0 lvl 1 for memes

[frigid kite]

@tidal sedge do you have Melantha leveled?

[tidal sedge]

Who is that

[glass monolith]

who need levels i killed W with E0 LVL 1 FRANKA CARL

[full finch]

melantha is a unit you don't have to care about

[storm current]

you have 2 main way to kill w

spawn camp

[tidal sedge]

How do i beat 1-12

[turbid sky]

kyostinv

[storm current]

or wait until shes in the explosive box range then nuke

[tidal sedge]

I die within the first 2 min

[storm current]

did you die to mob

[glass monolith]

I replyed to my own message which has video of me doing stage with literally not leveled units, you can do better

[mint river]

Our lord and savior

[tidal sedge]

I suck shit

[glass monolith]

i am not bored enough to download my own video to post it again so hold me choking Fred

[storm current]

im surprised

they didnt give manfred stun immunity risk

[glass monolith]

yea they gave him DooM double barrel shotgun in stats instead, so good luck pulling most of stuns out

[tidal sedge]

This is my current team

[mint river]

First of all fill in the three open slot

[tidal sedge]

Four

I use support

[mint river]

Grab another vanguard

[glass monolith]

Jaye won't do shit on level 1, aciddrop won't do anything meaningful 99% of times, bring heavy Kroostilery, bring single target medics, maybe bring Fang or whatever

[frigid kite]

Pick a support Melantha

[tidal sedge]

I cant remove him i realised he takes away 3 of the thingies every few seconds

[mint river]

Is there even a support Melantha?

[tidal sedge]

Im gonna build a new team fr

[glass monolith]

Uh.... how the fuck is that any valid argument he literally disables ability to deploy operators while he is on field

[mint river]

Jaye will stall your dp generation

[tidal sedge]

Exactly he sucks shit

[mint river]

Can you show us your roster

[tidal sedge]

The fucks a roster

[mint river]

Your ops

[tidal sedge]

Okay

[mint river]

Idk why I called it that

[silver mirage]

No he typo he meant 🐓

[glass monolith]

I will stab you

[tidal sedge]

Sir

[frigid kite]

🐓

[tidal sedge]

Jaye should rot in hell

[mint river]

Nah Jaye fine

[clever kernel]

[jaunty girder]

?

[storm current]

ok first off

if you have any exp and money

level kroos up

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[mint river]

And grab two vanguard

[storm current]

she help a lot in early game

[jaunty girder]

i still use her from time to time

[tidal sedge]

Shes level 15

Time to find a vanguard

Is melantha a vanguard

[jaunty girder]

no

[mint river]

No that’s a guard

[storm current]

fang + scavenger is fine

[glass monolith]

[jaunty girder]

press the job button

top right

and the first one which look like wolf fang is vanguard

[tidal sedge]

Yea

Theres no wolf fang

[mint river]

Vanguard cost cheap and normally deployed first to print dp for your more expensive ops

[jaunty girder]

does this not look like wolf fang?

or it is just me

[tidal sedge]

That is not a wolf fang

[glass monolith]

GOD DAMMIT WE HAVE EMOUTES FOR THEM

[jaunty girder]

LOL

[mint river]

No that’s just you

[tidal sedge]

Ill use fang

[mint river]

Ok

[jaunty girder]

i mean uh wolf fang scratch

[mint river]

Grab melantha too and two defender

[jaunty girder]

no cuora?

[tidal sedge]

Is defender the shiled

My new team

[jaunty girder]

[glass monolith]

TRIGERRRRIEEEEEEEEd

[mint river]

Add ansel

And another defender like Beagle

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[jaunty girder]

wait do you get cuora for free? or it is gacha?

[tidal sedge]

Wb matternhorn

[mint river]

You can use him

[tidal sedge]

One more slot

[mint river]

Melantha

[storm current]

do you have cardigan

[tidal sedge]

Yea

[storm current]

i think early noir corne is pretty nice too

later on

[tidal sedge]

Goofy ass name

[storm current]

when you have steward

replace amiya with steward

and replace matter horn with spot

when you get spot later on

[mint river]

No spot

[storm current]

from recruit with defense/defender + healing

[tidal sedge]

What do i add into mylast slot

[mint river]

I’d personally grab an aoe caster

[jaunty girder]

speaking of aoe caster, should i build lava

uh

every time i need aoe caster i use 12f, the damage is uh

[tidal sedge]

Does catapult count

[jaunty girder]

that is an aoe sniper

[mint river]

Yes or Gitano if you have

[tidal sedge]

Lava or

Catapilt

Fuk

[mint river]

Catapult can work

[tidal sedge]

Whoch one shpuld i use tho

[mint river]

For now just use Lava

[tidal sedge]

Timr to do 1-12

[mint river]

You leveled them right

[tidal sedge]

Mhm

To 15

[mint river]

Ok then

[tidal sedge]

This game tok har dim telling yiu

[mint river]

what happen

Did you win?

[tidal sedge]

AHHHH LETS FUCKING GOO

[mint river]

good job

[tidal sedge]

So painful

[mint river]

It's arknights we're all suffering

[tidal sedge]

Shoikd be easier form now on

Ez episode 2

[mint river]

yeah just make sure to level your ops and work on your base

[tidal sedge]

Noted

[silver mirage]

Help the cannon one-shot my defenders

💀

[mint river]

ok?

you use them as bait right?

[compact tusk]

I'm building Sniperknights; what ops buffs snipers (like ely or schwarz) or debuffs enemy def?

[silver mirage]

Uhh but that leaves me open to attacks no?

[mint river]

Shamare can weaken defense and warfarin can buff atk?

[mint river]

Isn't that the plan to bait the cannon out the range of your other ops?

[ashen axle]

Sniperknights
Gives 2 ops that aren’t snipers

🤯

[silver mirage]

Borrow hoshi but still failed

[daring prawn]

do this

just swap any guard with spalter

[silver mirage]

Sutr OK?

[latent halo]

Melantha

[daring prawn]

make sure Hoshi is S2

[ashen axle]

True!

[silver mirage]

How I know is s2

[daring prawn]

yeah or mountain even better

[mint river]

Don’t worry KyoStinV will backpack you

[daring prawn]

use mountain then use surtr to kill manfreed

[silver mirage]

Healer who I use?

[daring prawn]

u have lumen? and any healer that can reach hoshi

[silver mirage]

Lumen e0

[daring prawn]

just make sure there's 2 healers reaching hoshi

[silver mirage]

Then how I get dp for those char

Is this s2?

[daring prawn]

i used mrytle and canti

[daring prawn]

nah its the yellow one

[silver mirage]

Gotten her

Thanks @daring prawn

[daring prawn]

[jovial nest]

so what's the max threshold of min-clearing a paradox?

E2 1

SL 4?

[cursive wedge]

sl7

[jovial nest]

lets see how much i can get away with it with Vulcan's

I just went from SL 2 to SL 4

SL4 worked

just gonna have to wait for Vulcan to redep to help Beagle

[lost aurora]

boys

lil help?

how to defend

and get Moneh

[outer sail]

Is Pozy good in the trading post, and if so, with whom?

[daring prawn]

ifrit

[storm current]

@outer sail nope

[proud drift]

Uh

[storm current]

only very conditionally

[proud drift]

What the fuck is 9-12 CM

[storm current]

with kirara and tuye

[proud drift]

[storm current]

but that involve e2 2 shitty unit

[proud drift]

Didn’t know significantly means 200% movement speed boost

Or some shit

This has to be the hardest cm in this chapter right?

[molten swan]

it isn't that hard

[elder flume]

i want 500% move speed

[tidal sedge]

I can't remember that map

[elder flume]

would be funny to see zoomies

[tidal sedge]

Oh, that map

It wasn't that bad

The big waves aligned with Ros s3, when I was trying her out

So any nuke of choice can blow them up too

[umbral swift]

Any easy way to r18 cc10?

[outer sail]

I haven't looked up any low rarity squad guides yet. I like to beat my head against it for a while first. I freaking hate Manfred and the death cannons though.

[proud drift]

Ling solo

[outer sail]

Blemi sleep can actually help a decent amount. Stun is good (though the increased redeploy makes it rough for trying to use Red).

[silver mirage]

Have her

[outer sail]

Can Ling seriously solo r18? omgf

[umbral swift]

[proud drift]

Mudrock S3 kinda trivializes cannon too

[outer sail]

So long as you can keep the grubs off your blockers, yeah

Or stun them at the right time.

[proud drift]

your blockers are in fart tiles anyways

So it doesn’t matter if they block slimes

[tidal sedge]

Wdym stun

[outer sail]

Literal stun? Like Red's deploy, Bibeak S2, NTR deploy, etc.

Sleep works too

Maybe freeze? Haven't tried

[scarlet ledge]

gnosis s1

[outer sail]

Freezing a single grub isn't gonna help sometimes ;P

[molten swan]

pro tip

sleep unblocks enemies

[tidal sedge]

I'm not sure what stunning grubs is supposed to accomplish

[scarlet ledge]

freezing manfred kek

[tidal sedge]

They still stay blocked

[scarlet ledge]

with sail aspd buff

hi notlurker

[tidal sedge]

Hi Schwert

[molten swan]

leite

I did day 1 max

[storm current]

greating

im malding hard

[outer sail]

I thought stun unblocked them. Guess it's just sleep

[tidal sedge]

It's a somewhat common confusion. I'm very curious why that's the case

[daring prawn]

check the vid i posted on #cc-central

[tidal sedge]

If stun unblocked stuff then Eunectes s2 would be completely dysfunctional

[scarlet ledge]

dalao

[daring prawn]

r18 full auto

[umbral swift]

Damn….. I don’t have montain and hoshi and lumen e1

But thanks man

[daring prawn]

just borrow hoshi S2

lumen can be replaced by any wide range medic

mountain can be replaced

[desert prairie]

Is donut still alive?

Also do you think AK is possible if all ops cant attack offskill?

[outer sail]

Some stages, sure. Some, maybe not?

[desert prairie]

Like as a general playthrough

Offensive recovery is fucked without e2 chen so thats lategame

You have to rely on passive skills

Like ethan manti skadi pred texalt

And stuff

But

They sometimes need at least e1

[storm current]

would be possible in IS gamemode

where a curse make ops cant attack off skill

regardless of archetype

[desert prairie]

But you start game with very limited e0 roster

[desert prairie]

Would be interesting to see how iron gonna do that

But just like a normal run

You start off with the reserve teams

[storm current]

i mean

theres a way to balance it out

for IS that is

ops get 1 sp per sec

[desert prairie]

I meant normal gameplay not IS

Playing chapter 0

With that limitation

And ops are "underleveled"

[storm current]

doesnt that just make carry units like kroos or steward absolute shit

[desert prairie]

yes you can easily beat chapter 1 with new acc e0 1

[desert prairie]

Yes exactly

[storm current]

your only hope would just be red

or pray for april carry wouldnt it

i guess gravel count

[desert prairie]

I mean there are many ops that has passive skills

But most of em are behind paywalls

And e1

[storm current]

we wont count stuff like eunectes s1t

thats cheating

[desert prairie]

Nah all passives are welcome

Issue is where tf do you get eun early on

You have no pulls, no nothing

And eun is one person

[storm current]

eunectes at that point is uh

glorified melantha

[desert prairie]

Even if you have her, good luck beating drones on ch 1

[storm current]

sound like uh

reroll fest

or just play during limited banner

[turbid badge]

will u get access to mlynar?

hmm? cant attack offskill?

[molten swan]

With proper rotation it should be possible

[outer sail]

I mean, everyone was talking about April, Gravel, etc, but use Tequila, Carnelian, Quercus, Angelina, etc, and it'd be fine for the most part.

[turbid badge]

idk how in the world does passive skills count as cant attack offskill since they still do their AA, auto attacks

[proud drift]

Cuz passive is technically on-skill

[turbid badge]

[molten swan]

Just dont do attacks after passive period is over

Counts as only attacking onskill

[outer sail]

So you could use Hoshi S2 and whatever? Hah

[proud drift]

I feel like it shouldn’t count

Cause it doesn’t have an sp bar

Though then again

I’m thinking of unlimited durations like Jaye

[outer sail]

So yeah, just use deploy skills like Phantom S2, Skadi S2, NTR S2, etc, and then ops that literally don't attack when their skills aren't active like Angelina and Carnelian/Beezwax etc.

Hah, and Cantabile S1 for your vanguard needs 😉 At least, if you need one to attack.

It's a strange self imposed challenge, but I bet it's doable.

[wind silo]

Tfw

Your cc plan didn't work

My unit grind is for nought if it's not used

[meager merlin]

Y'all think Folinic is worth leveling?

[outer sail]

No

[livid delta]

No

[meager merlin]

Why not, looks like a 5* ansel with her S1

[livid delta]

5*

just use ansel

[molten swan]

5*

[outer sail]

Ansel is better. Cheaper to build, cheaper to deploy, AND has an extra row of range over Folinic.

And her S2 is pretty bad.

[sly drift]

This is probably the first time potential talent upgrade actually makes operator significantly stronger.

https://youtu.be/jFdsO__OlsI

[livid delta]

Bagpipe?

[daring prawn]

anything that does crowd control is pretty dope

[sly drift]

Does slow immune applies to movement speed reduction too?
Both are different

[storm current]

@livid delta mostima exist before bagpipe

checkmate

[livid delta]

okay then the entire Exu pot list

[scarlet fulcrum]

Doesnt affect, they are different

[storm current]

they are different but if the enemies have slow immunity both slow and speed reduction are affected

or so that was the experience with saria s3 and suzu s3 from leadseal

[scarlet fulcrum]

no its not, did u play lead seal?

-mspd still affect them

[neat skiff]

This game being inconsistent? Shock of the millennium.

[opal kiln]

I mean there's a category in arkrec where u only use ops that can't do normal attacks

so basically only phalanx liberators and a few random ones

all these

[molten swan]

Certified thrm ex moment

[neat skiff]

Ok, how is NTR counted but Utage not?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not retreated ig

[opal kiln]

utage can attack off-skill

ntrk retreats when s2 is over

[turbid badge]

yeah

[molten swan]

Khold forgor

[neat skiff]

What delightfully twisted logic.

[turbid badge]

lol

[storm current]

isnt utage like

the opposite?

[turbid badge]

hm?

[storm current]

cant attack during s1

[molten swan]

Pretty sure that logic is like

[neat skiff]

She is instantly retreated once skill is over.

[turbid badge]

oh yeah

lol

[molten swan]

Pretty straightforward

[turbid badge]

s1 moment

[molten swan]

Who?

Utage doesnt do that

[neat skiff]

Utage is like Mr. Nothing. they cannot attack during skill, exclusively off skill.

[turbid badge]

huh

[molten swan]

The what

Am I missing sth

[neat skiff]

This is player behaviour, not forced mechanic.

[molten swan]

I don’t think I’m understanding can you repeat

[neat skiff]

Utage is used for her S2 arts damage. Once the skill ends and she goes back to physical damage she is basically worthless.

[turbid badge]

yes

[molten swan]

Well arkrec only uses forced mechanic

[neat skiff]

So retreated asap to get her cooldown rolling to redeploy.

[molten swan]

Using common sense to determine a niche wont get you far

Or player behavior for that matter

[neat skiff]

Me in a nutshell.

[molten swan]

Can you really say texalt functions like surtr so she can be used like a fast redeploy guard and therefore be in guardknights

[neat skiff]

You know I am not a purist.

What I happily say yes to others flat out ban.

"She has a triangle, not a sword so banned"

[molten swan]

Such is the irony of reality and rules

[neat skiff]

Yup, I care little for rules.

[limpid siren]

leave utage on the field after s2 is done then

[neat skiff]

Hence me helping right up until the point they decide to restrict themselves further than an auto.

After that it is happily someone elses migraine.

[sly drift]

Man..
We really need Exu module where she can activate S3 manually 💀

[neat skiff]

If only.

[sly drift]

We are in 2023 and she still has that auto activation skill wtf

[livid delta]

if you turn her s3 into manual activation you'd only serve to lower her average dps

[neat skiff]

finally pulled her through top operator + dps and all I can think is "I wish I had the gold certs for Archetto in 6 weeks."

[opal kiln]

just use s2 it's basically the same

clueless

[neat skiff]

S2 is a massive dps loss.

[molten swan]

Surely

[sly drift]

Howd you know she will come in 6 weeks

[neat skiff]

Patterns.

[molten swan]

Rule 5 moment

[turbid badge]

[neat skiff]

Go to pins and find a rule 5.

Wait, I'm an idiot. Archetto should be 12 weeks if the pattern does not change.

6 weeks should be bara cat if the pattern does not change again.

[molten swan]

Skull

[neat skiff]

Almost like we do not have a rule 5 because we discuss how operators not yet released will perform in stages.

Like Lin and her shields being post mitigation damage.

[livid delta]

I'm gonna piss myself if Mountain comes and Mart doesn't have enough gold certs 💀

[neat skiff]

Instead of "Lin is beyond useless with bad dps" like before she was released.

[neat skiff]

Be mad all you want, I always include disclaimers.

Though given that we now have a 7 month average delay between CN and global much of what I have said in the past 3 months timing wise is now defunct.

Nothing quite like "CN is having events with constant overlap", "global is having dead days and dead weeks between events".

[molten swan]

Mkay

You didnt include disclaimers for the “patterns” you mentioned but go off ig

[neat skiff]

I constantly have.

Including how the devs have not followed that pattern.

Weedy and Phantom swap.

"If there are zero changes then you can expect X operator roughly around Y date" because using google is too hard.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Phantom swapped bacuse JO i believe

[molten swan]

No shit

[neat skiff]

If the shoperator was strict then Phantom would have been shoperator during JO.

There is zero reason for the devs to follow the pattern except laziness.

They could change the whole formula in a bit over 3 hours and render everything useless and introduce a ton of FOMO.

Though if they were going to to generate profit they would have pushed Mudrock up due to how meta she is.

Though in saying that I do hope the pattern holds for at least Mountain since Provence and Chong Yue are side grades that excel in different situations.

[scarlet fulcrum]

why provence, i forgor

[novel pivot]

I wonder if i still need to get mountain

Ngl i kinda forgot he existed

[neat skiff]

Because Provence straight up sucks against slow but strong hitting opponents without a lot of trash enemies to kill and build up her shield.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Isnt that Lin?

[neat skiff]

Meanwhile give her a lot of little chaff she is a literal unkillable god.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yeah

Its Lin

[neat skiff]

Provence struggles hardcore against chapter 5 Faust.

But she can solo IS2 and IS3 stages by herself with trash tier buffs.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is that her codename now?

[neat skiff]

Penance. Thank you for making me double check.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh penance yeah shes fun to play in SSS

Also good interact with relics

[neat skiff]

Yeah, replace Provence with Penence.

the 2 6 star juggernaughts.

[storm current]

ye i was wondering what is provence doing here

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most ppl will have her ig

[neat skiff]

I'm surprised no one questioned me sooner. But I have exclusively myself to blame.

But yeah, Mudrock and Penance excel in different situations.

[sly drift]

Believe me I will do 100 pulls and get 3 offrates instead

[neat skiff]

Sounds about right.

[scarlet fulcrum]

70% smtimes feel different

[sly drift]

I legit got ebenholz in Gavial banner. Limited banner never favoured me

[neat skiff]

We’re gamers. 70% may as well be 0%

[scarlet fulcrum]

[tidal sedge]

maybe if you stopped thinking so negatively you would have better luck like me

[neat skiff]

At least Eben is worth raising for his niche.

[sly drift]

It's dupe 💀

[storm current]

idk

[neat skiff]

Been a gamer for over 23 years now.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah i also have 3 aak and no W

Oh wait nian

💀

[storm current]

i didnt get any off rate from gavialt banner

in both of my account

[tidal sedge]

what if I have max iris

[placid birch]

Good Aak > Nian

[sly drift]

What ops along with W banner?

[tidal sedge]

weedy and ely

[scarlet fulcrum]

Weedy

[neat skiff]

As long as she deletes enemies without skill activation you gucci.

[sly drift]

Yea.
I remember getting 3 aak in Nian banner. And Hellagur in W banner. I got my first limited which is Rosmontis and it's fcccking useless.

[neat skiff]

Ros archetype is good for current anni.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ros fine imo, ppl just prefer smt else

[neat skiff]

Especially her S1.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah indeed i used her in this anni

[sly drift]

Like man.. Ros was out 2 yr ago and no module

[neat skiff]

But yeah, she is undertuned.

Though she was also released back when def was much lower.

Like Exu, but without "5 attacks per 0.7 second auto."

[sly drift]

She was made to hit heavy armored and she is bad at it

[tidal sedge]

wdym, she was with chapter 8 right?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ye

[tidal sedge]

we had plenty of high def enemies

[scarlet fulcrum]

[tidal sedge]

also she's for mid def not high idk what you're smoking

[cerulean drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CCaliXYvkc&t=572s I am using this guide, and why is Fred going faster than the swords dudes? At 8:40 in the video

[sly drift]

Yea that's why she is sht lol. Why the hell they made ops specifically for hitting mid def

[neat skiff]

Rosmontis was released before Mostima.

[tidal sedge]

what the fuck are you saying

khold where did you get that

[neat skiff]

Rosmontis banner was 2020-11-01, Mostima was 2020-12-01 in CN. I'm an idiot.

[tidal sedge]

no?

[neat skiff]

Wait, blind. Rerun.

I'm an idiot, sorry.

[wind silo]

Damn I wonder what strat I could use

Or like

Revamped

[frigid kite]

Keep an eye on where he attacks, if you don't stall him he'll get over there pretty quickly

[wind silo]

Managed to do daily, that already was sweaty

But now I can't even do perm r0

[neat skiff]

Stalling Manfred is all about deploying ranges stall units.

[wind silo]

Is this why ppl make multiple strats?

[storm current]

scene robot stall help a lot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Did u pick manfred appear quicker by any chance

[wind silo]

when you picked the redeployment time risk because you thought it only affect ops not summons

Now uh

Yeah I actually don't have idea rn to handle this

[tidal sedge]

yeah redeploy effects everything, at least it goes both ways

[wind silo]

Enemies stat shock, the cannon timing being far shorter than expected, and etc

Tbh

I was expecting the unexpected

But it was truly unexpected to get unexpected thing

[storm current]

ok ok

let me just

[wind silo]

That was expectable reaction tho

[storm current]

give you the ultimate strategy for blind run

fuck around

and find out

[wind silo]

Damn

[storm current]

you dont know if it work until you try it

[wind silo]

The grind brain strat huh

[storm current]

so you want a guide instead?

[wind silo]

if I got a guide I wouldn't ask shit here

I rather have like

Revamping/adjusting available strat

So it fits with my current position

[cerulean drum]

Maybe, I will try again later

[wind silo]

Most of time it's just me taking the frontline timing(by that I mean first few deployments) and experimenting myself

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah it will affect the whole strat, only r2 manfred risks tho

[wind silo]

So.
What I actually want is a framework

The strat concept

And few backbones

Positional and focused placement

[sly drift]

Can Pozy penetrate Manfred dodge?

In CN pozy released after Cc10 wasn't it?

[placid birch]

She can

[sly drift]

It much easier then lmao

[tidal sedge]

nah cc10 was after pozy in CN

[placid birch]

Gotta line him up on those center tiles though

[frigid kite]

Wouldn't use Pozy to kill Manfred in this case at least, maybe in something like R18

[scarlet fulcrum]

sniper route

[frigid kite]

Oooh

That makes sense

[scarlet fulcrum]

But probably around that yes

[tidal sedge]

ranged tiles don't really seem that great for pozy positioning and also typewriter doesn't ignore dodge

need schwarz second mod smh

[frigid kite]

Lol

[sly drift]

Need Rosmontis first module

[neat skiff]

Yeah, given current modules I don’t have high hopes for Ros.

Unless she gets a Mizuki or Rosa.

[storm current]

i mean

given how many archetype havent got their module

[neat skiff]

5-10% vs literal double your talent or 60% atk-scale.

[storm current]

i think a nice module for the archetype would be just

1 extra shockwave

per attack

[scarlet fulcrum]

As long as its not caster buff upgrade

[neat skiff]

While it would be nice it would be better if the 2nd shockwave wasn’t 50% dmg_scale.

Hence hoping for a Mizuki or Rosa tier module.

[scarlet fulcrum]

pog

[neat skiff]

Even 75% dmg_scale would be colossal. For both Ros and Greyy alter.

[tidal sedge]

isn't shockwave atk scale

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yes

[tidal sedge]

I could see stronger shockwave being the trait for one module

I wonder what the other trait would be though

[storm current]

anything but range up

[neat skiff]

Range up could be useful. Help alleviate "But Angelina exists"

[tidal sedge]

for greyy?

[neat skiff]

It would benefit him the most. But he will forever play second fiddle. Even if he got a god tier module.

[latent halo]

Nice

[scarlet fulcrum]

whale

[tidal sedge]

where did the pillars go

did you fail to kill gargoyle with them?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yeah i didnt notice that

[latent halo]

I use the pillar as box

U can retreat it

Juke the mobs a bit

[unique skiff]

do you guys think i can get though this cc with https://imgur.com/a/dNCj0Oi

[storm current]

do you want subjective answer or objective answer

[unique skiff]

objective

[storm current]

anyone can clear 18 if they have an e2 unit

cuz theres a ling + noir corne duo r18 easy clear video

but only if you are willing to

[unique skiff]

ah so its just a git gud moment

havent tried the cc yet

[edgy ibex]

can fireballs collide with ethan and create huge explosions

[storm current]

yes

[edgy ibex]

welp, unaffected by block number then

[latent halo]

I need better strats

The flying rock is annoying

Let me try again with ntr s2

S3 isn't doing me any good

[molten swan]

use the explosion devices better

[latent halo]

Nah

Just the second one

Ik who am I replacing

Surtr can't kill shit if 90 res

[whole crater]

Y doing low op

[tidal sedge]

Question regarding from ch11, is the bug still there where Theresis for whatever reason suddenly missed Kalt'sit?

[latent halo]

To figure skill timing and shit

13 op the stage and u never learn how the stage works

[livid delta]

Bring lappland
70 res reduction

[latent halo]

Better than ifrit moment

[storm current]

you can combine the 2

using corroseum

[livid delta]

But then it's not low op

Fuck

I forgot about that guy

[storm current]

ok

gavialt carry daily hard wt

her attack cancel fireball and flamethrower

[latent halo]

And also , fire ball need 2 frame to explode

[livid delta]

What does gavial do

[storm current]

its quite funny

[livid delta]

Oh

Kirara carry

[latent halo]

This is good to know

[storm current]

ye talent 2 come in clutches

[sweet marlin]

i don't get how the cannon thing works

at first i thought it was the last op deployed

[tidal sedge]

It targets highest block count op

[storm current]

lastest is now second priority compared to highest block

[tidal sedge]

Reborn creations give +1 block to whoever is blocking them

[sweet marlin]

i see thanks

[tidal sedge]

wtf he's stuck in the pillar

he just stands there

the fireball spawns outside the pillar

[scarlet fulcrum]

Interesting

[toxic bridge]

is utage better than may to E2 first?

they are both top priorities

due to dps and such

[vagrant bloom]

has anyone done today's daily r15?

[toxic bridge]

think ima go with utage first due to waifu priority

[vagrant bloom]

for sure , go for it

[toxic bridge]

thing that makes me confused tho is

i know skill 2 is better since it puts her immedeatly at 50% hp which activated the bonus ASPD

but the arts damage is it that good to deal with even high RES enemies?

[storm current]

i think it should be easy enough

r15

[sleek rune]

what caused the artillery to strike the big dragon instead of the small one

can anyone explain

[vagrant bloom]

Utage is basically a helidropable arts guard( single block and do art dmg like mouuse)

[toxic bridge]

i know that much

[vagrant bloom]

so ofc you are not dealing with high res

[storm current]

@sleek rune cannon target highest block count first

then the lastest deployed

[sleek rune]

yeah but why doesnt it attack the small dragon

[toxic bridge]

hmm so prioritise helidropping her in high def targets?

[sleek rune]

like in the yt video

[storm current]

each slug give the blocker +1 block

[sleek rune]

is it because i killed the slug

too fast

[storm current]

so difference of that

yes

[sleek rune]

oh

so i have to use nian there

oh i see now

[vagrant bloom]

yea it checks out , remeber the red surfers from ideal city? my e1 50 utage could 1v1 them

[vagrant bloom]

what's the tech? Im gettin cooked over here

[storm current]

do you have gavialt

i think NG honey gavialt should be able to kill everything

[vagrant bloom]

none of the above

I have pozy ling kaltsit utage

[storm current]

at least

i think having an elemental healer help a lot

you can nuke the fireballs to help with the pressure

[toxic bridge]

nope

never got past ic-5

[vagrant bloom]

purestream I guess...?

[storm current]

no

purestream is therapist

[vagrant bloom]

oh wandering

got a e0 lv1 mulberry

[storm current]

gavialt basically solo the lane due to her s2 stagger fireballs and flamethrower

also 30% healing bonus make her more durable

also holy cow

pozy 1 cycle gargoyle both phase

[vagrant bloom]

she big

I was initially doing a fiammetta strat

[north ravine]

Playwright boss am I good? (Have 88 oi btw) also what should I do to win

[storm current]

would be a bit tough

you may want to use SA s2 to tank shot

since your medic are hibiscus and kaltsit

[north ravine]

Can surtr solo him though? It's alot of asp increase

[storm current]

not really

he has 90 res when below 50%

and 60 res when above

[north ravine]

What about surtr and horn

[storm current]

horn s3 maybe

your issue is not killing him

its just surviving

[north ravine]

Hmm I'm thinking of using kaltsit and mon3r to block the exploding dudes

Anyway I hope I win this my first time fighting the dude

Bro that was easy

[fair pasture]

wat you nuked?

[north ravine]

Though the asp was alot of help without it I was deadge

[north ravine]

Horn did 50% and then he entered the path to come from the top right side after that I used surtr and silver ash to kill him after that it was just tanking the exploding guys

Had 26 lives to spare

[desert prairie]

yes but like what are you gonna do with e0 mlynar?

[molten swan]

what?

[desert prairie]

assuming youre playing no normal attack playthrough. you reroll mlynar. i dont see him solving issues the playthrough will have, especially if he is e0

you better off with ops that has passive skills that can still attacks

[vernal lion]

wait does CN has boss with 700k HP ???

[storm current]

yes, for a total of 1.3M hp iirc
2 phase

[weak gazelle]

oh there is another boss who act as dmg sponge

1.1k atk can spice thing up a bit

[storm current]

RA boss btw

[vernal lion]

there's also environment and weather system

Sandstorm is back

[weak gazelle]

nowadays ops already reach above 100k total dmg easily

[glass monolith]

Minecraft event boss?

[vernal lion]

ah yes, the "in real life" RNG

[weak gazelle]

we have ops with DR built in
so yeah at least we have a lot of option to tank true dmg beside mudrock shield

[silver mirage]

Mudrock can't hold 2 lanes

I don't have any other ops above that 3k

[weak gazelle]

i didnt mention lane holding thing but if you mean cannon dmg from ch 10
traditional defender like cuora/croiss/hoshi etc can soak cannon dmg iirc

[glass monolith]

Wait wait wait, it has same range as FRED and can overlap? motherf- how one do it without Texas alter only or something

[vernal lion]

THUNDER

[dusk fiber]

oph im sorry i should ask this on cc-central

[glass monolith]

I did same thing i do to him entire CC. Spawnkill phase 1 and then bush kill phase 2

[molten swan]

Become the vietcong

[wary wing]

poison haze who

[lethal dragon]

I wonder

Specter the useless

Regret not m3ing her s3

[wary wing]

thats just because of the 4 sarkaz crossbows at the end

[lethal dragon]

She definitely needs M3 goddammit

[lethal dragon]

[jovial nest]

max risk high pots comps use Cantabile S1 due to most likely being Bagpipeless.
and low pots use S2
but how should I setup my P6 Cantabile for borrow?
Would anyone using high pot comps even have a low pot Cantabile?

[gray stone]

Bagpipeless case applies to both poor people and whales here

[glass monolith]

Oh no... I need to go to 1-7 hell

[jovial nest]

All the 1-7s I did in the past CCs and dead weeks

to get up to 100 T3 roccs

its all gone now

[gray stone]

I have 300 T2 rocks without touching 1-7 for the last 4 months

[jovial nest]

hahahahaha

[gray stone]

Credit shop is very poggers

[jovial nest]

thats just 60 T3s

[gray stone]

yeah I farm 10-6 anyway

1-7 🚮

[glass monolith]

The issue is i am out of T2 rock

[gray stone]

We have pots this CC?

[jovial nest]

no

and why would it?

[gray stone]

The glory days of free 6 star pots is gone

[glass monolith]

[storm current]

thats a weird reaper you are using

[glass monolith]

Why use 200% operator to trust farm when you can use 12 not 200% to trust themselves?

[storm current]

why not just use this

[wary wing]

thats e0

literally useless

[glass monolith]

SHE IS ONE WHO NEED ROCK TO BECOME E1

[floral parcel]

Any strat for this?

[glass monolith]

Suffering

Also using those and abandon not no leak runs because you wasted 20 instead 1 for no reward whatsoever

[lethal dragon]

WD Ex-8 oh no

Wait that's not even cm

[floral parcel]

[lethal dragon]

Ex-8 cm is really annoying

[floral parcel]

I missed up after killing the boss

[lethal dragon]

Ling makes it easy tho

[floral parcel]

Last enemy hit hard

[lethal dragon]

Ling can manage

Try to keep them in fog

[floral parcel]

[lethal dragon]

And your operator out of it

[floral parcel]

Yeah that's the problem

[lethal dragon]

That'll slow their speed

[floral parcel]

I don't understand how the fog works

[proud drift]

Boss lose hp

Boss fart

[lethal dragon]

https://arknemy.github.io/enemy/#enemy_1520_empgrd

Read please

[floral parcel]

Understandable have a great day

So i need to defeat him when he still in front of red box?

And bait the 2nd phase fog

[glass monolith]

he farts on phase 1 50%, phase 2 75% 50% and 25%

and baiting fog is bitch because he always attacks one who did most damage unless they are fogged already

[main halo]

Seems like R15 low rarity isn't exactly possible

Time to go all out

[sweet surge]

Is this possible?

[main halo]

Not even Surtr(borrowed) can make a dent on the evocator

[frigid kite]

Yeah of course

[sweet surge]

Right what should I do

[frigid kite]

Depends on where they spawn

[sweet surge]

Wanna guide me through while I stream?

[frigid kite]

Sure

[sweet surge]

Right, waiting 4u

[pastel reef]

can someone help me with this please?

[frigid kite]

Wow

You already at ch 9

[pastel reef]

yup!

[frigid kite]

Surtr S2 + Healer for one of the top lanes

She will kill both casters

Use Ling's dragon for everything else

You can, for example, put Pozy on one of the top lanes and then bait with dragon

[pastel reef]

ohh okay, ill try it!

oop my surtr and healer got deleted

i think my teams really underleveled

[frigid kite]

Lol

Where did you put the medic

[pastel reef]

surtr top left and medic top left

[frigid kite]

That's the why

Medic doesn't take hits

Surtr does

[pastel reef]

how do i get the medic to reach surtr tho

[glass monolith]

Use forbidden tactic of retreating surtr when there is nothing to kill

[frigid kite]

Wait until you have enough dp and put Healer 1st then surtr

[frigid kite]

E1 Surtr

[pastel reef]

still cant do it

i think my teams just underleveled

[junior jewel]

you just need some strat, the record is 5 3*

[pastel reef]

what

[junior jewel]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17f4y177Hm/?vd_source=99ebe5015105ee528598b3c1b7fa294d after clear the caster using either pozy or what ever, put chen on the right, use a defender or sth make sure she won't be killed by the caster later, left is simpler cuz no shield

[pastel reef]

oh okay ty

could i put broca on the bottom

[junior jewel]

The only thing you need to worry is the dp, so IDK，have to actually try it

[frigid kite]

@pastel reef still having problems?

[turbid badge]

fartooth moment

[toxic bridge]

what's a good 5* vanguard i should try to get?

either pioneer or charger

[frigid kite]

Texas E2

[toxic bridge]

rather, is reed good? cuz she looks hella cool and i may try to get her

[turbid badge]

good, no?

[frigid kite]

Well..... I like her too but I wouldn't use, not sure how far good she is in gameplay sorry

[turbid badge]

dps wise that is

[toxic bridge]

i see

cuz i was checkin one of my accs and i got a 5* thingy

and idk who to pick

[frigid kite]

Lol

New account either Specter or Lappland

[toxic bridge]

ok then

[frigid kite]

Lappland being preferred since silence

[latent monolith]

Not really

In practice vigna (4 star charger) tends to be significantly better

Reed has a good alter though

[frigid kite]

Probably one of the best units to aim for the future

Since the banner after to her isn't thaaat great anyways

[outer sail]

Reed looks very cool, and on paper her kit sounds like it should be solid, but in practice she is HORRIBLE. Like... SO BAD. It's actually kind of upsetting how bad she is.

[proud drift]

Chapter9 she’s cool tho

In story I mean

[glass monolith]

And story wise she stands there menacingly until being yeet into doctor's harem

[toxic bridge]

i think i fucked myself over with the 4*

[latent monolith]

||She's almost dead and unconscious the only time she appears and was taken to rhodes where she doesn't really do anything ||

[glass monolith]

If i had nickel every time someone joins Rhodes Island that way i would have at least 2 (||Platinum in NL story||)

[latent monolith]

Wait who was the other

[proud drift]

Wtf flamethrowers do chain reaction kaboom??

[latent monolith]

Yes and one dying kills the nearby ones

[glass monolith]

Wait you stalled one on daily so long it chain reacted?

[lethal dragon]

Just kill them

[latent monolith]

Knocks over pillars too

[frigid kite]

Literally gears of war stuff

[proud drift]

Nah, 9-13

[lethal dragon]

That's actually funny and you can abuse that

[proud drift]

Spending sanity on story stages before doing cc stuff

[latent monolith]

My sanity going to 1-7 rn

[frigid kite]

Imagine if you had to do Episode 10 and then CC 10 at the same time

[tidal sedge]

not farming chips?

[glass monolith]

I still need 2 more 1-7 to e1 Mud

[latent monolith]

needed for mud

And chen

[glass monolith]

Wait dont tell me

[latent monolith]

And whoever else I want to level

[proud drift]

I’m waiting for talulah banner, the moment they announce talulah I’m ignoring every banner until hers

[latent monolith]

Rocc is eternal

[proud drift]

Ch8 made me full simp

[glass monolith]

Oh false alarm she dont need rock for E2

[latent monolith]

Patriot banner when

[toxic bridge]

hmm

dunno what to do

thank goodness i invested in some good 4*

but the problem is, i dont know where to go from there

5*? i rarely use em and am too poor now to even upgrade some

[latent monolith]

You can also just stock up

[outer sail]

5* are often not worth the investment cost, especially early on, with a few exceptions (like Lappland, Spectre, Ptilopsis, etc). Better to build a good roster of 4*s and a few key 6 star carries

[toxic bridge]

hmm

well i did get silverash

so finally its not only hoshi

the game had pity

[outer sail]

He's a good one to build, but you do kinda need to invest heavily in him to really see him shine. E230 with some masteries into S3 is preferable.

[toxic bridge]

yeah that wont be easy as of right now

[glass monolith]

Well, fuck

[toxic bridge]

https://krooster.com/u/Zee besides silverash and lappland any others that are good for me to try and upgrade?

[glass monolith]

Oh wait, i do have poly on me

[toxic bridge]

ah crap

gonna need OP chip glue

damn it

[cursive wedge]

for who

[glass monolith]

S2M3 Sora

Probability of me gaining Skalter is too small as i won't be collecting 300 pulls any time soon, and Sora cycle is just so nice to slap on Goldenglow

[rough anvil]

Your logic is convincing me that I should build sora too

[proud drift]

Sorry what

[glass monolith]

THE FACK?

DP Down 4 exists

[latent monolith]

Anni simulation

Oh wait this stage

It's ez

[proud drift]

Ya ik but atill

Still*

Dp down 4

[elder flume]

if you wait for 100000s in that stage does dp regen

[latent monolith]

Imagine CC with dp down 4

[proud drift]

Anni with CC risks

[glass monolith]

I have build enough roster to afford going for such impulse driven moments and reasoning

[latent monolith]

Meanwhile I'm broke and I need to E2 4 6 stars while my lmd balance has 4 digits

[rough anvil]

Well your impulse reasoning is winning over my own impulses

[glass monolith]

I'm half way into 8 digits because i am out of materials

[proud drift]

How tf do you have 5mil

I’m constantly on 10k to 200k

[livid delta]

Just farm ce6

[proud drift]

I haven’t farmed xp or lmd stage in so long lol

[livid delta]

So you don't farm lmd and wonder why you're low on lmd

[glass monolith]

60k daily from base + event shops and i haven't e2 any operator for entire 2023 outside of Sora as CC started

[livid delta]

Gigathonk

[proud drift]

Well

I never really needed to farm

Event giving 700k stonks

[livid delta]

700k is nothing

[proud drift]

And by the time I farm materials or chips for an operator my lmd is back in shape

[livid delta]

Someone doesn't stock up on event mats