strategy

[robust hemlock]

lvlup this shit to e2

[molten swan]

wow

that is not

the only response we give back

you know?

[civic nest]

we also say that this ops is shit

[wary wing]

asks how to play optimally
gets answered
complains its boring

[civic nest]

and dont level them

[fair pasture]

and with video proof and actual math, dps calc etc.

[cyan gorge]

then there's people who are like
"Problem? just borrow Ling lol"

[fair pasture]

Tons of proves

[robust hemlock]

who need math if u can just borrow surtr thorns mud etc?or even ling who juat afk it

[still trench]

......

[wary wing]

can you do ling afk IC-S-4?

[robust hemlock]

no cz she is shit for me

[wary wing]

shame

[robust hemlock]

i lvluped her for her "power"

[frigid kite]

Uuuuh this got boring

[robust hemlock]

i dont see this power anyway

[fair pasture]

Oh ok you do think surtr mud and thorns are good

[graceful bear]

skill issue

[frigid kite]

Anyone needs help?

[fair pasture]

Good to know

[scarlet mortar]

dead chat

[graceful bear]

I cleared all the stages so I'm just passively helpposting

[robust hemlock]

why not if they juat do their job normally?

[graceful bear]

just deploy a Fortress

[still trench]

Nobody cares about that you think, we just follow more justified "facts"

[robust hemlock]

if fact that sa do aomething more then remove camouflages....

good luck

good luck with solo sa on mandragora

where he just do nothing with his full s3

[still trench]

SA camouflage is honestly irrelevant on general content if that is what you mean

[cyan gorge]

good luck with Thorns/Surt/Mud mandra solo

[civic nest]

he think the only thing SA do is reveal cammo lol

[graceful bear]

You know, we had this guy in VC a while back who had skill issue and M9'd everyone he uses because he doesn't know what skills are good
But at least he knew that you had to level some ops for them to be good

[scarlet mortar]

give me one op that solos mandra at all

[still trench]

Wymd, that's not the point

[robust hemlock]

so why the hell u think sa do something more then removing camouflage?

[frigid kite]

Lol

[storm current]

this dude must have been living in 2025

[cyan gorge]

I don't even understand what your point is anymore

[scarlet mortar]

we can move on now.

[robust hemlock]

i used him on dehenbreaher and when he stayed in s3 and do that i see only 10% that he do to her

when in otger side i use surtr who just kill her in this time

with skadi

[still trench]

I don't even understand what the fuck is the arguement about now.

Sa S3 is good, Campuflage reveal is irrelevant mostly apparently except for 1 Reed Alter side story

[tidal sedge]

it was relevant in CC5

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCm3StuB4dk

cope

[robust hemlock]

ok for me sa = very expensive one time used camouflage removal for stage what u never do second time

[solar spindle]

did u read the boss condition or smth
she has a dmg reduc shield and u just sa to solo her

[still trench]

Ok but your opinion is irrelevant.

We don't care.

[robust hemlock]

man....i used s3 sa on her i tryed rlly but he do nothing to her

[tidal sedge]

did he get skill sealed?

[wary wing]

2K dph feels like shit
welcome to 2023

[robust hemlock]

no

all damage come to her

[scarlet mortar]

broski didn't even watch the vid lmao

[wary wing]

next butthurt

[scarlet mortar]

just get a mod in here so we can shadowrealm them and do IC

[graceful bear]

Global can't read example number 3289034290

[robust hemlock]

he doesnt even do that for her 50%

[tidal sedge]

also doesn't affect ops with set atk interval during skill if they already have skill activated

[robust hemlock]

he just throw away his skill with lower then 25% damage to her

[surreal star]

That’s like ifrit s3 right?

[cyan gorge]

Sounds like skill issue

[solar spindle]

surely sa module is shred 50% def right?

[surreal star]

100%

[tidal sedge]

ifrit s3, rosa s3, hoshi s3, etc. ye

[robust hemlock]

so if i use the skill what do nothing to her that skill issue?

[serene jolt]

my sa did fine against her must be a personal problem

[robust hemlock]

and when i use on his s3 surtr with skadi who killed her normally thats not normal?

[solar spindle]

sa solo

but surtr duo skadi

[graceful bear]

Degenbrecher doesn't have damage reduction and only mid DEF according to the text so if SA wasn't killing her it's unironically skill issue

[solar spindle]

wtf

[robust hemlock]

he doesnt do that solo omg

[scarlet mortar]

how do you call a mod again

[latent monolith]

Also things like suzuran S3

[solar spindle]

sa vs surtr/skadi here lmao

[fluid sail]

is gg s3 also immune if you activate it before the boss skill? iirc she can get frozen after s3 activation and the drones still attack, is the same true for that boss

[tidal sedge]

idk, I don't think we had her by BtI

[scarlet mortar]

yh the drone attacks independently of her, so although their attack interval isn't fixed she'll still own degenbrecher

[robust hemlock]

again u said sa better then them but now said that surtr/skadi better then SA wtf with u guys

[tidal sedge]

idk if degen returned on cn yet

[scarlet mortar]

heck she can be frozen and still attack the last knight in IS3 lmao

[solar spindle]

what ?

when did i said that

[latent monolith]

Yeah

[robust hemlock]

even now i understand that sa do nothing when here surtr or skadi in squad

[storm current]

BI rerun on CN btw

[fresh copper]

She did return in CN

[surreal star]

Cn got BtI rerun, ask some cn nerd to test

[robust hemlock]

even amiya better then sa

[scarlet mortar]

pretty sure even click does the same

[fresh copper]

Huh?

Do you even understand what SilverAsh is supposed to do in the first place?

[cyan gorge]

Now I'm convinced you're on something wild

[scarlet mortar]

wish pls, if anything just get a mod

this convo died half an hour ago

[fresh copper]

Damn that long?

I should've been there

[proud drift]

uh

why do I feel like I've done something wrong

is it supposed to be only 50%

[novel pivot]

What did i walk into

[graceful bear]

the special ed section of the school

[novel pivot]

No slow does that to you

Suzuran moment

[proud drift]

do I just borrow s7m0 suzuran then

[novel pivot]

Movement speed reduction is bonkers

[proud drift]

s7 warfarin and s7 suzuran would be then

[scarlet mortar]

S7

[novel pivot]

I use the same boss strat as you, with m3

[cyan gorge]

My Suzu was S3M1 and I cleared fine

[novel pivot]

Pozy makes it somewhat ok

[proud drift]

but was warfarin m3 or m0

[cyan gorge]

M2

[novel pivot]

Warf m3 for the funny 6k damage

[tidal sedge]

you can borrow my suzu if you want

[fresh copper]

These S stages are hard tho wtf?

[proud drift]

yea mine's m0

[glass monolith]

Bring S3 L7 Gladiia and root drone for bonus time

[proud drift]

50/50 friendlist

[graceful bear]

Pozy on the top left tile with turret to the right can get her full combined cycle off on the boss

[novel pivot]

My suzu is m3 mod 1

[glass monolith]

20% stat buff by default to everything

[novel pivot]

Can borrow if want

[novel pivot]

Hg built different

[fresh copper]

Especially these guys

[tidal sedge]

skill issue

[glass monolith]

I call them "Oh shiiieeeeet"

[graceful bear]

waker-uppers are moments where Surtr becomes deployed to tank when it just gibbed your defender in two hits

[novel pivot]

Who knew literal cars hit like a truck

[fresh copper]

Except there's only one Surtr and one Nearl

[graceful bear]

But once again
Hoshiguma S2M3 is the answer

[novel pivot]

Who wins

A literal demon

Or a car

[fresh copper]

So when there's more I gotta find other strats

[glass monolith]

Hitting like truck is not issue, issue it has attack speed of mountain who got Aaked

[novel pivot]

Exactly

It hits like a truck

[graceful bear]

Or you can use Ethan to trigger their atk speed buff while they're idling

It only goes off once

[novel pivot]

Invisible

[graceful bear]

Gravel then

[glass monolith]

That's the neat part, one of cars in S-3 DOESNT IDLE

[novel pivot]

Heavyrain had one job in this stage

[molten swan]

huh this looks like a big brain strat for dorothy anni

[fresh copper]

Surely Scene and SilverAsh can deal with invis

[scarlet mortar]

puzzle showcase

[fresh copper]

[novel pivot]

The thing is my guy

There's a boatload of caster

[latent monolith]

Scene S1?

[fresh copper]

Exactly

[novel pivot]

Unless you're gigastacked

[novel pivot]

M3 for 1 stage

[elder flume]

run double explosion and def down to one shot

[novel pivot]

Worth it

[latent monolith]

Why do you need M3?

[novel pivot]

Because scene

[latent monolith]

Just use it at SL7

[novel pivot]

She deserves all

[latent monolith]

Maybe it works

[novel pivot]

I will m6 my scene

[latent monolith]

Fair

[scarlet mortar]

she's gonna take the entire stage to charge that skill and it'll be worth

[proud drift]

ok I fucked my placement

but this did kill it

[latent monolith]

Do liskarm SP battery

Bring suzuran

[novel pivot]

Every sp op for scene

[proud drift]

only issue is idk how to deal with healing cause damn boss hurts

not sure if I can handle CM

[novel pivot]

Now wait until cm when the boss has no stun intermission

[proud drift]

[novel pivot]

[proud drift]

yea I jsut freeze him it's ok

[novel pivot]

Bro beelines for the blue box

[latent monolith]

I can use yoyoman now that he's mod 3

[novel pivot]

I used saria s3

The slow is op

[fresh copper]

Deadass just gonna resort to buffed Exu to delete the boss in IC-S-4

Too annoyed to deal with those those mechanics

[fair pasture]

yes exu with skalter s3

try for me

I mean I borrowed a skalter s2 and nope

[fallen yew]

Exu + Warf + Skalter + Shamare for me

[fair pasture]

ok no wonder

[graceful bear]

Pozy can take care of the boss in two cycles
Problem then becomes keeping Minimalist from walking into your blue box (you need to have car stun chain in bottom row)

[storm current]

suzu m3 + mod3 90 pozy was enough for me

[fallen yew]

In ~10s in both normal and CM

[storm current]

oh

i did deploy gladiia to slow the boss down a bit

since it stop momentarily whenever it attack

[cyan gorge]

E2 70 Pozy + M2 Warf + M1 Suzu was more than enough for me

[fallen yew]

Then Suzu + Surtr for the boss

[graceful bear]

I used May to help slow the boss, works well

[proud drift]

I wonder if I can like

use gravel to bait boss attacks or sth

from his spawn

[cyan gorge]

Gravel would be just barely out of range of boss I think

unless you let him fly a little

[proud drift]

that's not good

guess I'll just try to pre-drop shamare doll

[storm current]

you can use gladiia

[cyan gorge]

I brought an extra medic to helidrop and keep Suzu alive

cars + Lapp and Kal held everything else just fine

Surt for boss baby form

[proud drift]

it's ok it worked

[molten swan]

classic pozy suzuran

[solar spindle]

can chalter suzu work here?

[cyan gorge]

probably

[robust hemlock]

removing camouflage

[cyan gorge]

oh god he's back

[solar spindle]

helidrop too

[solar spindle]

do i need to deploy her early

[cyan gorge]

early enough so her skill is up by the time boss spawns

[fair pasture]

you can put them on rigntside ranged

[solar spindle]

oh right

i might try that

[fair pasture]

not spawncamp but yea

[proud drift]

why is s-4 so simple compared to s-2 or s-3

[frigid kite]

Do it w/o spawnkilling boss

[waxen swan]

Maybe if he wasn't so squishy we won't spawn kill him

[proud drift]

do whole event without cars then

[frigid kite]

Oh no bad intent lol, it's just that the stage is supossed to be hard if you don destroy the drone fastly, that's way it's a lot more easier than the others

[frigid kite]

Did it 80%

Some really needed car

[proud drift]

I farmed this entire event for gel but

what do I do about alloy

[cyan gorge]

wait till DV

[proud drift]

so in the afterlife

[cyan gorge]

[frigid kite]

I saw that TW restoration is near, which also came with DV, probably if we are lucky

[proud drift]

the idea is we get cc after this event

[cyan gorge]

I think alloy is in the cc10 shop too

[proud drift]

18 of it?

[cyan gorge]

Idr if it's unlimited or not

[solar spindle]

ur alr bought everything in green cert shop?

[proud drift]

yes I bought all alloys already

[weak gazelle]

reward from tfn doesnt enough?
think there is few alloy

[solar spindle]

[proud drift]

crystalline electro unit has the most dogshit recipe in the game

how could you tell

[cyan gorge]

I used 12 of those in the last 2 weeks

[waxen swan]

From u

[proud drift]

I look at shamare e2 and I'm like "jesus christ 5* e2 is always such a pain" cause she needs 17 alloy, but then I look at gladiia e2 and she indirectly requires 18 alloys on top of other rare resources

[cyan gorge]

I need rocc more than alloy rn

[mental whale]

farm

[cyan gorge]

everything need rocc

[solar spindle]

meanwhile me gated by rock

every fking time

[mental whale]

farm

[solar spindle]

[cyan gorge]

[proud drift]

hey at least 1-7 always drops rocks

[solar spindle]

yes i do farm rock but its never enuf so i sleep

[cyan gorge]

Me a 10-6 enjoyer

[solar spindle]

[solar spindle]

true chad farm 1-7

but that the old me

no motivation to farm 1-7 fml

[mental whale]

just do farm

[solar spindle]

guess so

no other choice

[cyan gorge]

Out of curiosity, did anyone else try using a constant car line in IC-MO-1?

[scarlet mortar]

doing that and it's bricking my phone

[cyan gorge]

it bricks my laptop too

but it works

but not nearly as bad as IC-S-3 did

[elder flume]

is weedy s3 locked targetting or splash targetting

[soft crystal]

Wdym by that

[weak gazelle]

isnt that splash targetting?
im not sure either

[scarlet mortar]

the targeting locks on to an enemy, but the effect is splash

but that's every splash attack in the game so like

[elder flume]

locked targetting is when an operator triggers their skill and it hits only the targetted enemies during the skill use in their skill range

splash targetting is when an operator triggers their skill and it hits their targetted enemies including the newly incoming enemies that comes to the enemy tile

kinda hard to english huh

gona open my files to find if theres a demonstration

[scarlet mortar]

then it's locked targeting, but splash damage

the latter is different from multi-targeting bc the effect targets everything in aoe range at the moment of contact

like, splash isn't multi-targeting, so i don't see why you need to consider locking

otoh manticore is multi-targeting, not splash

[elder flume]

its related to shifting cuz feater is locked targetting while shaw is splash targetting

[scarlet mortar]

feater's like manticore i'm pretty sure

she doesn't do splash

huh ok S2 is weird then

[surreal star]

We don’t talk about manticore

[weak gazelle]

rather, why dont we test it out?
i think weedy are splash targetting one

[scarlet mortar]

weedy and shaw work bc they fire a projectile and the moment of contact splashes everything in range

idk how feater S2 works in that context

[surreal star]

Feater is just lock on to all enemies in range iirc

No projectile

[elder flume]

hope Weedy is splash cuz im nearing 200 sanity usage for IC S3

[storm current]

weed is splash up to 1 tile around the hit yes

for s3 at least

[crisp sleet]

How can I do IC S4 CM with this team comp?? I've tried like 20 times and haven't gotten it

[novel pivot]

Do you have a warf

[crisp sleet]

She's E1l30

But I've been trying with her

And she just kills pozy

[novel pivot]

Slows are rlly good for the 2nd phase

If you have ng you can also nosell the boss dmg

Whats the ebenholz for

[crisp sleet]

Arts

[novel pivot]

Also

Saria s3 + surtr s3

[crisp sleet]

I have no one else

[novel pivot]

On p2 of boss

Very good

[crisp sleet]

I can do phase 2 easy

It's just phase one

That's fucking me

[novel pivot]

Rip

[somber falcon]

Try eben + suzu + sa on p1

[crisp sleet]

Ok

[novel pivot]

If you have suzu, warf pozy and suzu can 1 cycle boss

Just need another medic

Not sure if shamare is integral

I used sham

But according to someone, mod3 pozy and suzu can ezpz

You can ask for a mod3 #friend-id ig

[tawdry bear]

Can I pass ic9 with this comp?

[novel pivot]

Sheesh

[turbid badge]

Do u have suzu

[somber falcon]

Probably with a borrow

[crisp sleet]

Yeah but I don't have suzu and my pozy is e1

[novel pivot]

Car abuse might work so all you have to deal with is boss

[novel pivot]

Rip

[turbid badge]

Ahhhhh

damn

Phase 2 u can easily cheese with ice car and -50 cd

[tawdry bear]

Ok

[novel pivot]

You just have to find a way to kill the boss

[crisp sleet]

I hate Aerial units

[turbid badge]

phase 1 you want to burst down quick because hes really annoying, you can also bind ufo

[novel pivot]

Mandragora 2.0

[crisp sleet]

Bro

This boss

[proud drift]

warfarin e1 is fine imo

[crisp sleet]

Literally had fucked my add harder than any

Like with all the other ones I at least had one operator that did well against it

[proud drift]

I killed s4 cm with suzu sl7, warfarin e1 sl7 and pozy e2 60 m3 mod3

[crisp sleet]

Like Lee, Gnosis, Surtr etc

[proud drift]

oh and I guess shamare

so you just gotta compensate for suzu somehow

cause shamare is enough at e1 sl7

[proud drift]

here

you just need to have someone make the boss stay still

like suzu does

but suzu does apply fragile too

[turbid badge]

oh god

[elder flume]

That one bus keeps getting unbinded hm

The strategy works tho

Every tank goes down the hole

[proud drift]

holeknights?

[elder flume]

Stallknights

[crisp sleet]

I cant fucking do IC-S-4 CM

WHY

WHYY IS THIS STAGE IN PARTICULAR DOING THIS TO ME

[molten swan]

ah that one

I just pozy suzuran'ed him and called it a day

[proud drift]

he can borrow only one

question is how can one compensate for lack of suzuran

if it's even possible

if it's at least a form of cc

[noble pewter]

I just ifrit n thorns silverash n 40 atk spd car buff enuf to kill at bottom

Then freeze stun car handles everything else on the grd

[turbid badge]

nice is that ethan mod 3

im loving purstream module

Might do ethan too

[elder flume]

+3% bind chance

[turbid badge]

hey, need all the rng u can get

[surreal star]

ethan mod3 is actually good

since that 3% becomes +9%

and his bind duration increases

[shy kite]

Stun+freeze carts.

[crisp sleet]

Ofc I'm using them

I can deal with the peons well

It's the drone

I cant get rid of it before it kills pozy

[shy kite]

Warf and suzuran?

[surreal wing]

I can’t pass IC S 2 CM with this team

problem is upper right corner.. how can i fix this?

[shy kite]

The volley?

[noble pewter]

R u grouping too much unit around pozy causing her area to be target of the drone aoe arts dmg

[crisp sleet]

I cant use suzu, I'm boring pozy

[noble pewter]

Or r u grouping too little n causing her area to get stunned n hence healer is stunned can't heal n dies to basic atks

[proud drift]

doesn't matter, she can survive

at least mine survived with e1 45 warfarin and e2 50 mod3 ptilo around her

[turbid badge]

they dotn have suzu

[stuck turtle]

does ifrit's S3 debuff affect drones

the attack itself I know doesn't hit but what about the debuff

[sterile wagon]

her s3 isnt hit drones v:

i think it dont effect too

[stuck turtle]

I'm asking about the second sentence, not the attack itself

[sterile wagon]

no it doesnt

[stuck turtle]

shame, was going to use it to help nuke drone

[noble pewter]

Doesn't she already have talent that reduce by 40%, don't think the extra - 13 means that much, might as well s2 n reduce def

[stuck turtle]

I'm hitting the big drone from event

[turbid badge]

it doesnt hit the boss lol

i tried but nah

[stuck turtle]

😩

shame

[turbid badge]

yeahh -13 res

[noble pewter]

The materialistic antagonizer? I used ifrit s2 n thorns sa to shred

[latent monolith]

With what

[turbid badge]

🥹

[stuck turtle]

I'm doing IC-S-4 CM right now

[latent monolith]

Like who's your dps

[stuck turtle]

ebenholz buff army

[turbid badge]

probably eyja

oh

ebenholz

mf

[stuck turtle]

DEEJAY MUUUSIICCCC MANNNN

[latent monolith]

Well you could try on normal at least

[stuck turtle]

oh no so

the problem isn't the boss anymore, I figured out how to kill him

[sterile wagon]

practice

[stuck turtle]

this is enough

the hard part is the fucking cars

[latent monolith]

Carknights not enough?

[turbid badge]

carknights yeah

[stuck turtle]

enemy cars have status resist

[latent monolith]

You could also run like Ethan for more stall

[stuck turtle]

I'm doing car stun + chill gaming

[turbid badge]

i used kal & ch'en for cars

normal ch;en

[proud drift]

I mean

[turbid badge]

u can probably add in holiday chen for better results

[proud drift]

isntead of Ifrit S3

[noble pewter]

Ifrit passive talent is reduce enemy res within range by 40% so that still helps

[proud drift]

you could pramanix

and instead of ifrit you can have warfarin facing down

to give eben +60-90% ATK

[latent monolith]

Isn't prama like 45% reduction

Ifrit is 40% + 13 flat

[proud drift]

the 13

doesn't affect drone

it specifically says ground enemies

[turbid badge]

he still kills boss so..

[latent monolith]

The damage says ground enemies

[proud drift]

yes

and the lien fater that

[stuck turtle]

I already am

[proud drift]

"THEIR"

[latent monolith]

But does it apply to the res shred

[stuck turtle]

like I said, the damn cars are the problem now

[turbid badge]

oh pog

[proud drift]

by wording it shouldn't

unless translation memes

[latent monolith]

That's the whole original question

[proud drift]

cause it says "to ground enemies, and THEIR res is reduced by -13"

[latent monolith]

Any easy way to get red numbers on air targets?

[storm current]

yes

[storm current]

use saria

[latent monolith]

Could just try it

[turbid badge]

Idk time to test

[latent monolith]

Oh yeah saria

[timid acorn]

the cars dont have status resist and freezing everything works fine

[turbid badge]

hopefully i have practice plan

[storm current]

saria basically guarantee red number since always 155% scale

[stuck turtle]

weird

feels like it

[stuck turtle]

look at the top right

man I'm so glad I use blemishine on the bottom

[latent monolith]

Alr UFOs have 50 res time to try

[timid acorn]

Here's my freeze arrangement and none of the enemies even get close to saria and myrtle

[stuck turtle]

I see

[latent monolith]

The only support saria I have is M1

[stuck turtle]

fuck I forgot to click CM

[latent monolith]

I could use steward

[stuck turtle]

I just did IC-S-4 normal :pain:

time to do it all again

[stuck turtle]

auto mod + -50% CD mod?

[timid acorn]

yes

[stuck turtle]

I see

well let's just say my deck is a little

[turbid badge]

u can use one of those tallulah stages with like 6 ufos

[stuck turtle]

top heavy

[proud drift]

which meaning of top heavy

[stuck turtle]

phat ||DP cost||

[proud drift]

do you not have even a flag in your team?

[stuck turtle]

yes I do

[proud drift]

oh

[stuck turtle]

money printing scheme

[proud drift]

wtf

if you had her tnaking boxers

and had a pioneer

[stuck turtle]

I could but like

eh

top lane's a bit too many 100% dodge for non defender anyway

[proud drift]

eh

with my setup I had myrtle texas handle it all

though in CM I had to swap texas for blemi cuz of boxers

[latent monolith]

I used that

The res reduction does not affect air

Steward did 628 skill damage regardless

[stuck turtle]

I see

[proud drift]

but see

I have a proposition

why not have both

ifrit

AND pramanix

[stuck turtle]

lol

that's a little overkill rn but it would be funny

rn I'm just thinking on how tf to kill the cars

[turbid badge]

yea no work

909 eyja

rippa

[proud drift]

weird you're struggling with cars

this solved all ground enemies for me

[turbid badge]

do u have -50 launch

[proud drift]

yes

[turbid badge]

or more so are you using?

[proud drift]

unless you meant for aiheng

[turbid badge]

yeahh

[stuck turtle]

I've got all the chips

[turbid badge]

aiheng

just use -50

[proud drift]

my issue with that setup tho was the funny shooting cart

[turbid badge]

so broken

[stuck turtle]

I also have like, 3 copies of infinite fist I can't get rid of

[proud drift]

just have like 2 ranged units + chonker holding on the circle tho

and ranged carts won't be a problem

[turbid badge]

this was what i used to stall cars and minimalist phase 2

[stuck turtle]

that's what I am doing

[proud drift]

I had kaltsit with mont3r + gg s2

solved them no problem

the rest got permafrozen

[stuck turtle]

I'll go stream my attempts then

good enough

now how the fuck do I do IC-S-3 CM

[storm current]

ling them

[graceful bear]

Horn SA and a good caster

[stuck turtle]

I have a lot of casters, define good

[graceful bear]

GG , Eyja, even Amiya

[stuck turtle]

right

[graceful bear]

GG S2 is preferred

[turbid badge]

Yed

[stuck turtle]

what about

godsenger

[graceful bear]

Good too

[turbid badge]

yes

i used him

[stuck turtle]

chub? (ceobe)

[graceful bear]

You just need someone to DPS the cars that SA reveals

[stuck turtle]

hmm

but like

arts bois

[graceful bear]

Ceobe probably really good with S2

[turbid badge]

godsender make the stage really easy for me

[stuck turtle]

how not die arts

[graceful bear]

See
That's what Horn is for

[stuck turtle]

I see

understandable

[turbid badge]

I just godsender + eyja volcano at end + a bunch of defenders

[graceful bear]

Put her bottom right facing up

S1M1
Kills all the casters

[stuck turtle]

aaa

[turbid badge]

if u have horn godsender and gg u can probably just kill them really easily

[stuck turtle]

I wonder if I have anyone with horn S1

[proud drift]

I tried using her and felt surprisingly underwhelming

[turbid badge]

yeahh

[stuck turtle]

she's much better for the cars imo

[storm current]

how much stat does CM boss get again

[proud drift]

yes that's what I tried to use her for

[turbid badge]

most of her damage is from her skill since its uptime is pretty long

[graceful bear]

None for S stages

[proud drift]

and she failed to even kill a car during S2

[storm current]

easy then

[proud drift]

only way I could beat that cringe stage is thru perma freeze

[stuck turtle]

the shield

[graceful bear]

Oh right forgot about that

[stuck turtle]

he gets a buff but that's the regular stage, not just CM

[turbid badge]

shes one of those 6 stars that feels underwheling because she cant dish out alot of damage really fast

[proud drift]

I didn't know silverash doesn't need to attack

to reveal everything

[graceful bear]

Module fixes that but that's 6 months away

[stuck turtle]

you know what I should do

[turbid badge]

yeh

[graceful bear]

She can one cycle Pat with it

[stuck turtle]

specter S2 to just stall the arts bois

[proud drift]

+600 HPS car thing + a good medic defender

or mod1 blemi with +600 HPS car

[stuck turtle]

that is

until you give her a goofy ahh buff

or something like saria S3

[graceful bear]

If you have Ashlock E2 she's probably good enough to kill the casters too

[stuck turtle]

those red numbers start to multiply a lot

[turbid badge]

yeah

[stuck turtle]

sadly no fortress defenders

I tried gacha-ing for horn the last time she was around

I got hoshi.

[graceful bear]

F in the chat

[turbid badge]

ah rip

[pulsar nebula]

So I’m a little new at the game and all, and guess I got lucky since I got thorns from the Gavial event.

Anyone know if I should prioritize E2’ing him over Chen?

[stuck turtle]

on the bright side, hoshi is hot so

[stuck turtle]

which chen

guard or sniper

[turbid badge]

normal chen?

[graceful bear]

Chalter or normal?

[pulsar nebula]

Regular

[graceful bear]

Def Thorns then

[stuck turtle]

oh

[turbid badge]

yeah prio thorns

[stuck turtle]

thorns then

[pulsar nebula]

Aight thanks lads

[turbid badge]

thorns range too gud

[graceful bear]

Ground Sniper with 1.7k alpha lmao

[turbid badge]

he kinda mid at e1, but e2 u can use him alot

[pulsar nebula]

I figured as much. Currently my first E2 is Lappland.

[graceful bear]

Based

[pulsar nebula]

And she’s been doing pretty good for me so far.

[stuck turtle]

she's ok

a little too squishy for my liking tho

[pulsar nebula]

I just like her ability to silence abilities.

[stuck turtle]

oh yeah she's pretty good for main story since there's a lot that can be silenced there

same with the current event

[pulsar nebula]

Yea. I’m looking forwards to the texas event.

I aim to try using two fast redeploys.

[stuck turtle]

how bad is MO this event?

[distant mantle]

Car go brr

[storm current]

easy

[stuck turtle]

ah

car gaming

[distant mantle]

You just need to Surtr those robots so the car won't get blocked

[latent monolith]

I follow kyo afk strat

[crisp sleet]

Guys

I am in dire strats

Can someone help me do IC-S-4

CM

It's fucking me so hard

[distant mantle]

You can just burst down the drone by using Pozy S3 and SA S3, then perma freeze the 2nd phase

That's what I did at least

[fresh copper]

[proud drift]

Nice welfares

[fresh copper]

No Mint or Astgenne

100% physical dodge

No thanks

[sly pivot]

the rules changed to not allow pudding?

[fresh copper]

Shop ops not allowed

[sly pivot]

wtf

nooo

[turbid badge]

[sly pivot]

abstinthe sweep

[turbid badge]

Too bad cant jus tequila it

[sly pivot]

lava

wait not lava

purgatory

many arts options

[fresh copper]

Not leveled yet

[sly pivot]

wtf fake welfare knights

siderocca

?

[clever kernel]

he did it lately

[noble pewter]

Deploy vgs to generate dp, texas at right myrtle/elysium at left, if u have thorns/ranged guard replace sutr put at top left G, start put car waypath face right n summon cars so they freeze stun the incoming wave, setup liskarm at D right n put waypath face down, lower G silverash s3 n H for saria, left side put ur kroos/ebenholz at D n healer H, can wait till drone passed by n at mid area b4 finish setup, have car with 40atk spd buff n 300 heal, when drone reaches lower mid, activate elysium skill n SA s3 n other dps skill, drone shud die by second pass as sa s3 will be up again while all ur ops remain healthy n all grd units remained stunned /freezed

[sly pivot]

jesus christ

good shit

im not gonna read it but im sure its good

[crisp sleet]

I'll try making it more presentable for my dumbass

But still

Massive help

[noble pewter]

With this setup middle ranged guard will take aoe arts dmg as most grouped but sovled by cart healing n saria, right defender will be taking the stun but grd enemies will be stunned freeze, left ranged dps will not be hindered, just need make sure healer enuf heal to survive basic atk of drone when it flies by

Just need make sure carts is 50% CD reduced n constantly being pumped with no mistake made where u run out dp after deploy a unit n allow units to suddenly move past liskarn or kill her

Also saria must face right in front of the ranged guard also facing right to make sure carts is bounced twice by the two left waypath facing left b4 being sent downwards to liskarm facing left who will send it to silverash n elysium who facing right will send it back to her

[novel pivot]

Just finished the anni stage

Its certainly an experience

It has enemies, deployable tiles, and a blue and redbox

Truly one of the stage of all time

[opal kiln]

That's insane

[proud drift]

mans did carless anni

[novel pivot]

I think i only use car to stun ball machines

[tidal sedge]

how many retries would be done before someone managed to make low ops clear

either low ops, classknights, or whatever the AK Pros do

[fallen yew]

[molten swan]

we have no idea

it takes anywhere from 30 minutes to 10 months

[sonic willow]

[deep drum]

ive wasted 29 sanity today only yo discover that they literally removed the 2nd phase stun duration of the little dipshit on S4

how tf do I surtr the fucker now?

[shell arch]

You can put him to cold, no?

[deep drum]

cant car them

I use the car for survivability of my vanguards

[shell arch]

Use suzu s3 i guess

[deep drum]

cant borrow suzu

im borrowing pozy

[shell arch]

Saria s3?

[deep drum]

aint going to invest on decel binders

aint got no saria

the only operator that I invested on stalling is ethan...

I aint got no lmd after I lvl90'd surtr, ling and chalter, no way to raise someone

I am now regretting it...

wasting millions of lmd...

💀

[sonic willow]

[surreal relic]

Are your vanguards tanking the drone AoE?

[deep drum]

somewhat, cuz I replaced elysium with nearl to stall the boxing enemy

here my comp:

I can deal with everyone with my own strat

but the fucker aint no longer stunned so I cant surtr and exu the shit out of him

I used chalter for the drone cuz of her high level

so I cant nothing :/

and I needed pozy as well...

[surreal relic]

Why not use the freezer/stun though? You can have the cars pass through your vanguards and freeze the enemies at the same time

[deep drum]

so I cant borrow nightingale for survivability

[latent monolith]

You could use ethan

[deep drum]

I cant deal with the survivabilty of my vanguards, I needed the dps of the car

with it literally pushing and exploding the boxing enemy

[surreal relic]

Why not something like this?

They just get frozen and can't attack your vanguards

[deep drum]

hmmm

only got 2 flaguards

needed them to get passed by car

let me think

[storm current]

I used e1 1 myrtel and e0 ely to hold lane

[surreal relic]

You don't need all of them, I only used because I could, not because I needed to

[deep drum]

can it freeze minimalist?

[storm current]

Enough said

[soft crystal]

yeah cars will perma stun/freeze minimalist

[deep drum]

I wish the dipshit has lvl 2 weight

would be nice to lee the shit out of him

[noble pewter]

[deep drum]

can a lvl 60 e2 exu and a max pozy deal with the drone better than a max chalter and pozy?

[storm current]

pozy

[deep drum]

ima try to get 50k lmd from IS rn and raise her if so

[storm current]

you can just ignore exu unless mega buff

[soft crystal]

how much def does boss have anyways

[storm current]

since suzu + pozy is enough for me

800

[deep drum]

I literally need more dps

cuz I dont have much buff

[soft crystal]

i used Exu+Shamare+Warf+Skalter for boss xd

so much

[deep drum]

I only got shamare for debuff...

[storm current]

my 90 mod3 m3 pozy + m3 suzuran work

then in my alt

[deep drum]

like bruh I used Chalter, Shamare, Pozy and Ifrit on this one

[storm current]

shes only 60 mod2 m2 pozy + sl7 suzu

i have to brought warfarin with sl7

[deep drum]

between a max pozy + max chalter and a max pozy + e2 60 exu (no m3)

[robust hemlock]

ok...so.....how not to die?

[soft crystal]

max chalter and pozy will do better

[deep drum]

if s4 use nightingale....

[soft crystal]

exu with 0 buffs/debuffs will do no damage to boss tbh

[deep drum]

exu has shamare and ifrit

[novel pivot]

Gone are the times of frostnova exu solo

[deep drum]

this is my comp

[storm current]

who are you borrowing

[deep drum]

pozy

[storm current]

do you have gladiia somehow

[novel pivot]

If have saria s3 can ez slow him

[deep drum]

yes

YES I DO

[storm current]

i mean

e2

[novel pivot]

Gladiia bind also funny

[deep drum]

yup

[robust hemlock]

idk whats on 4....

[deep drum]

the boss

[storm current]

gladiia can deployed on range tile to tank boss + bind

[robust hemlock]

cz this hell

[robust hemlock]

boss ez one

[soft crystal]

some quick maffs

[deep drum]

[novel pivot]

The boss is

Very sus

[robust hemlock]

?

[novel pivot]

Especially when he

Runs straight towards blue

[deep drum]

boi

[novel pivot]

And in cm he isnt stunned on landing

[deep drum]

s4 challnenge mode aint

[deep drum]

boss got no stun on phase 2

[storm current]

challenge mode is the same you know

[soft crystal]

shamare+ifrit with both m3s will put down enemy def to 250

[robust hemlock]

ok ill continue red certs farm

[storm current]

since he will get perma freeze anyway

[novel pivot]

The only difference between my cm and normal

Is that i spawncamp p2 30s apart

Nothing changed

Same strat

[deep drum]

about gladiia, u talking bout her dealing with drone or the 2nd phase for stalling the boss?

[soft crystal]

the only difference for CM is that you just use Freeze/stun cart

[storm current]

drone

[novel pivot]

I didnt even use cart for cm

[storm current]

since once drone die all die

[deep drum]

ight

[novel pivot]

Thats how whalebrain i am

[robust hemlock]

how to counter cars man?

[deep drum]

so who do you think should I remove from killing the drone then?

like should I remove chalter from killing it

[robust hemlock]

they are have too big dmg

[novel pivot]

Vibe check the boss with surtr saria and ifrit s3

Very funny

[storm current]

this is enough for me

random sl7 suzu

[novel pivot]

You trigger them early

Or you tank with a beefy ass defender

[deep drum]

so I can use her on killing 2nd phase

[robust hemlock]

defenders?what?

who use them

[storm current]

but you will want to run like surtr to clean up the mob

[novel pivot]

Me

[robust hemlock]

nah

[novel pivot]

If it works it works

[robust hemlock]

all defenders just weird

not nian

[novel pivot]

Meh

[robust hemlock]

nian the best

[deep drum]

:l

[novel pivot]

I only use nian for s1 this event

And to buff my blemi

Blemi s3 laneguard moment

1k arts damage per hit

[robust hemlock]

imagine using defenders

[novel pivot]

Honestly the solution to red cars is just to trigger them early

[storm current]

e1 1 myrtle and e0 ely

[novel pivot]

Bro used his brain

[deep drum]

havent seen a mudrock?

[novel pivot]

Hard pass

[storm current]

then wait until stage complete

[deep drum]

or a horn

[robust hemlock]

horn weird

[novel pivot]

Tnal is now my favorite person on this server

[deep drum]

defenders my ass, more like a tank

[robust hemlock]

mud not even defender

[novel pivot]

Defender with a gun

[robust hemlock]

nah

[novel pivot]

Mudrock hits exactly like an avalanche

[deep drum]

offender*

[robust hemlock]

thx god she is not dropped

[deep drum]

[novel pivot]

Now all we do is wait until we

Get a module that gives her mini colossus

Copy her skills and become true op

[robust hemlock]

mud not defender she is a killer with 3 blocks

[novel pivot]

Leaked z module real

[robust hemlock]

but ye horn sucks

[novel pivot]

I use mud to tank faust bullets in tn

Tank era

[deep drum]

what in the heresey

[novel pivot]

She's beefy as hell anyway

[fresh copper]

Horn good

[novel pivot]

Just take crit shots like a champ

[robust hemlock]

no

[fresh copper]

Just..... not in this event

[robust hemlock]

noone need defender with range

[novel pivot]

All physical damahe dealer get shafted hard

[robust hemlock]

u dont use her for def anyway

all use her for dmg

[deep drum]

if your talking about horn as something used to block the yes thats not the job of horn
but in dps perspective, she is good

[robust hemlock]

u dont have dmg dealers or what?

[fair pasture]

Can I stack sniper for mud in sss?

[novel pivot]

Horn is just a guard in disguise

[fresh copper]

Wdym?

Horn is extremely strong as far as DPS goes

[robust hemlock]

better vangs

[robust hemlock]

why u need far dps?

[deep drum]

could be helpful on certain risk where range operators got their ass more expensive

[novel pivot]

I wonder if amiya s3 can work against boss

[soft crystal]

How can you stack snipers on mud when shes a melee tile op

[novel pivot]

Cc9 moment

[fair pasture]

Ok good

[fresh copper]

Yeah sure she won't be your main blocker but clearly she doesn't NEED to be because her damage is THAT good

[deep drum]

or a stage where you cannot use ranged operators

and you need a semi range damage

[novel pivot]

And literally any stage where a big enemy is stationary out of reach

[deep drum]

and for a long distance as well

[robust hemlock]

crabs?idk anni or cc in numbers

[novel pivot]

That happens a lot more than you think

[deep drum]

you could snipe anyone

[novel pivot]

Egg crawler

[deep drum]

like snipe enemy artilerry

[robust hemlock]

crab

[soft crystal]

Spawn killing enemies that just stand around is a very common strat in arknights

[robust hemlock]

and again thats a cc for her yes why she shouldnt work here?

in any others....meh

[deep drum]

specific stages as well

[novel pivot]

Its funny because this happens in every event at least once

[deep drum]

[robust hemlock]

thats like chen passive works only in her maps

[deep drum]

need of a long range?, no range tile?

[fresh copper]

And her range helps out in a lot of stages where the tiles available are incredibly awkward for ranged units and the ground tiles are a bit too far for other melee to reach

[novel pivot]

Just a menacing enemy

[robust hemlock]

no snipers or casters?

wdym long range

[deep drum]

like you want to kill someone faraway

[robust hemlock]

its again just unit for do nothing more then add a little dmg

[fair pasture]

Without range tile

[robust hemlock]

s3 gg hello

[deep drum]

example op which were the eggs in undertides

[novel pivot]

Not tanky enough to withstand enemies with range attack

Also beefy enemies tend to be in hotzones where you either get slapped if someone is in range of the foe snipers

[robust hemlock]

surtr on face

ntr on face

why i need her anyway?

[deep drum]

surtr on stun, ntr on stun 🗿

[novel pivot]

Caution tiles: allow us to show ourselves

[robust hemlock]

if all bosses can be beaten in seconds with them?

[deep drum]

what im saying is her use is a long range dps, on an operator thats not on range tile

aoe as well

[deep drum]

can you beat someone who stuns you?

[fair pasture]

neurosis corruption btw

[robust hemlock]

who?

[fair pasture]

I can’t spell

[fresh copper]

Lee says hi

[deep drum]

lingering echoes event boss, undertides boss and enemies, sulfaneta navis enemies

[fresh copper]

Just look at Lingering Echoes

[robust hemlock]

uhm....like ....its afk boss

[storm current]

later on you get someone even better

donquixote

[robust hemlock]

and u can just remove his tentacles by other op

[deep drum]

fancy an example

[robust hemlock]

lingering anni not for her for sure

[fresh copper]

[latent monolith]

Bishop quintus isn't even a real boss it's obviously the first to talk

[fresh copper]

I wasn't referring to you

But ok

[fair pasture]

6* either cornerstone either has some maps works particular good that’s all

[deep drum]

the seaborn event still scares me

too much stun

[clever kernel]

[deep drum]

too much bullshit

[storm current]

UT is prob the easiest seaborn event tho

[soft crystal]

Imagine surtring mandragora on her face

[deep drum]

like 2 months of back to back seaborn events

[robust hemlock]

dont touch machines....even they just run in your face and kill all

[deep drum]

3 SEABORN EVENTS

[robust hemlock]

they have only 2

[storm current]

:clueless:

clearly

[fresh copper]

Soon to be 4

[storm current]

you havent heard about it

[deep drum]

I dont want a ut and sn rerun....

but I think were getting them

[storm current]

UT already rerun lol

[latent monolith]

UT rerun was after SN

[deep drum]

with the 3rd seaborns story event...

[proud drift]

uh

[deep drum]

yes

[latent monolith]

SN rerun yet to happen

[proud drift]

lolicon

[storm current]

[proud drift]

ignore what yomi says for the most part

[storm current]

i know

[latent monolith]

IS3 coming

[robust hemlock]

imagine reading story

[deep drum]

suppose once an event got a rerun they aint getting another rerun....

[storm current]

im already here with omfie

[somber falcon]

Nope