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No dmg
On either of these?
the one that keeps failing is the pillar near the top right
Why am I not surprised?
the pillar near the bottom works half the time
You’re with kazi squad right?
Yeah
ye
Then it should be consistent 

Maybe you’re overlooking something
Cause it worked for me consistently every time
I even learned that she has to be directly on top of the tile and not half in
So even with DEF ignore and DEF reduct, Meteor's still nothing
does it not work if shes fully inside the tile?
i usually wait until am 100% sure shes inside the tile where the pillar will fall
No she has to be at least like 50-75% in the tile I’m p.sure
Cause I legit had a moment where she walked out of it
Even tho the pillar slapped her cheeks
The def reduct not really helping since u already doing true dmg on 1st 20 sec I guess, maybe take reuse module n use her as fast redeploy to slowly chip away at mandra, but not as good as just using fartooth perhaps
are the only requirements for her to drop a pillar being in phase 2 and having an op within 2 adjacent tiles of the pillar?
And 20s starting cooldown
imma try and test again if thosere the only 2
15s after first drop
And she does it instantly when she can
You see red warning indicators
does it have a range? or is any op near a pillar instantly in danger
Global
oke oke will try again later
as long as they have no hp buffs, they should
Trial difficulty does scale their hp

is cobra playing higher than basic?
on normal, gargoyles have 12k hp and pillars do 12k damage
So they prob do get 1 tapped
But issue is
There’s 6 gargoyles total
If not 8, I forgot exact number
6 or 8
And they come in waves of 2
6
E0 probably wants to pillar mandy at least 2 times

Although in the pic cobra sent
P2 is already almost dead


I can't clear 9-19 bc lappland does too much dmg and the golem flew away. what to do?
left side
is tn 3 possible with low levels?
can save it but lappland hits too hard and the golems spawn wings and flies away
you mean my casters/snipers?
just retreat her near when 55'ish and have like a healing defender/defender
yeah but its fine u can just drop the rock on their head instead of brute forcing it threw
I got eyja, ifrit, ceobe e2. Just got golden glow. Exu, Ash, pozy e2
nope
Then don't let her do too much dmg
make her use s1 or face diff direction so can control the kill zone nearer ranged units
yeah
I think even S1 does too much dmg since it's e2 lvl 60 lappland with pot 4
they have 500-700 def vs 0 magic res once lappland silence em n deal arts dmg with s2 I think it will make a difference
u didn't m3 s1 or anything right
no mastery on lapp
Lv60 lapp prob only 700 atk or so, n s1 only boost like 30% n gargoyle is 12k hp
It will be much slower to kill with s1 than s2 on lapp 
my lapp 752 atk
if anything does happen just have like pozy or something catch them
Cause s2 activated is arts, shred gargoyle like butter, but s1 is only physical so will only deal like 500 dmg, will need hit 20 time to kill 
With range of 3 square n 20 hit gargoyle shud able walk into melee range of lapp n hopefully u have set up a killzone of ranged to focus down 
Failing that, if u can't make lapp weaker, then u must make her even stronger n she can kill them after they fly or in stone form 

wonder if strong pozy can clear up the fliers

What e2 did you cheat with if you even have one?
What?

for TN-3
TN-1,2, and 4 are done legit
who do you have E2 that you can borrow
who is this much undeserving of your attention

Amiya
You need to unlock her guard ver to borrow a guard ver
you dont
friend amiya just has to be guard
Wait what stages
oh
Is there a requirement to unlock them first?
Like ex you have to clear normal
Finish EX iirc
Damn
Yeah EX normal
Stultifera navis had them too
Well guess I just rest/raise other units in mean time
SN anni is pretty easy, even without Lappland
There were enough roombas to keep the map clear until the wave ~370 anyways
Oh wait I don't use defenders I'm doomedge
can you not make it so nobody farts at all
with like Jaye S1 and Lapp E2?
or waai fuu spam to silence spawnkills if such exist
You can, I just didn't have any operators with silence raised and still cleared pretty easily
Can u do no silence no wandering medic and afk
I'm not used to not using mudrock kalt
it's a pull, but not the cliff/rope kind of pull
unless cliff and rope do not function the same way
and only cliffheart supposingly has a stun or something like that?
so i've heard?
oh her S2 states that she stuns them
Wouldn't be surprised if it's possible, but it's just much easier to have silence and wandering medic
all of the afk clears I've seen feature both Lappland and a wandering medic
the only one that didn't was welfareknights and it used Lumen instead
I stole this from CN-lounge becuz I’d like to join the whole wait faster mood
what 1242153
its a meme
Ok I’ll Google better
Hmm solve problem with myriad ways? What does it mean
is it his voice line? Who is he?
I don’t attually know the txts but I heard chongue is pretty noisy yea. Like his VA spams your ears ~~kinda off topic ~~
Wait do the aspd car parts not stack
I swear what should be +400 aspd looked like +80 or some shit
They stack additively
As in
If you have +40 twice it give 80 instead of applying twice
Same for other
60% heal become 120% heal for 3 tick
And 600% explosive dmg become 1200%
Instead of doong 600% twice
that one wont stack

If an operator receives a buff from a car while the previous one is still up, it'll refresh the duration rather than stack the buff effects
as far as i remember car buff
they are independent type
which mean it refresh duration instead of stack
Ah cause he is brawler high atk spd n atk recovery skills with low sp cost so everytime activate ability will say those words n not even managed to finish the whole flowery sentence
how about s3? Should be a afk skill but still talks every time atks?
No I think all his skill is manual activation 
Oh I think u need activate it 5 time first then it somehow become auto trigger
n extra hits more range etc
But yea everytime it triggers he shud say voicelines I guess
lol suck so hard
You have to activate S3 a few times for it to become auto-trigger, but it's still activating S3 on its own afterwards
he literally won't shut up, he won't even finish his line before starting the next one
once S3 becomes auto-trigger, you'll just spend the rest of the map listening to his voice and no one else's
Natto Gohan got seriously powercrept
How's mostima s2m3 moduled fullstack vg/casterA in sss?
But why
Idk. Fun i guess 
Alright so how's s3m3 mostima mod3 fullstack vg/casterA in sss

If my calculations are correct (doubt), mostima s3m3 fullstack vg/casterA has 35s cooldown to activate another skill
Which is tempting. I'm considering to either s3m3 or s2m3 mostima 
borrow one
I'm planning to m3 mostima's skill either way 
i did m6 mostima
So I'm just wondering how's she in actual use
with full mod
So how's she? 
you know i didnt use 6* ops
I didn't know, my bad 
bamboozled lmao
i did try her once
but that not a good metric at all
I'm just wondering what are some underrated sss carries 
Could only figure out suzu saria s3 right now
W s3m3 mod3 fullstack vg/casterA is quite not worth it i guess 
bn with 5 vg/caster
just sleep

I just finished s2m3 blacknight mastery yesterday so I'll try. Thanks 
you have to time the skill evey 6s or it wont work
i use ptilo for it to be better and dont lose any sp
just wait for the sp from the stack and then skill
you can just perma stall
but she deals low dmg so have fun activating the skill 50 times per stage

Lmaooo
he get fucked easily when off skill
sp battery is a must for his s3
Specialist B is SP + Atk speed instead Atk
I have funnier idea
spec B got sp too
i dont recall that
if true yeah spec b better
Spec b is half sniper a aspd + 1sp every 3s
how it is any different from my specialist B 5? 
i just didnt went full in clarified specialist B 5 who
5 spec B give 25 sp per 10 sec
so it change his cycle into around 30/16, hmm...
interesting
uh.... isn't it is same SP charge as vanguard spam? I am more interested in +100 ATK speed - 3 attacks in 2 seconds 
his atk interval are 0.78 sec
weird question but do arts carry generally benefit from aspd or atk? 
depends ig
ATK buff to arts is generally fucked by enemy RES
Constant DPS like Ceobe, GG and Carnelian appreciate ASPD more
does eyja and gnosis s3 benefit from aspd or atkbuff?
from both obviously in general
but which one gain the most benefit, it depend on every operator
also uh angelina s3 
1 ATK to physical damage dealer = 1 DMG to enemy if you already above that DEF treshhold
1 ATK to arts damage dealer = (1 - whatever enemy res is) DMG to enemy, around 0.5 to most "why you have so many res bitch" enemies (0.15 AGAINST METAL CRABS
)
sadly there is no enemy with 0 res as far as i remember
or its already change(?)
i completely forgot
Ch0 slugs be like
have you test it?
me when meddling in a civil conversation with lappdumbs
1 res still count not 0
and you know how res work on formula
ah i see
so you trust that pic most rather than test it yourself
this thing is straight from the game's data
why tf do I need to test it
on the contrary, I'm willing to see a test case that proves arknemy's enemy stats wrong
47 mins left, finally did ultimate 
Assuming they just extract those numbers from game files it will be hard 
(they do)
pack your stuff. party is over. theorycrafting no more. oofie is here
ok ok
i will step down on this argue
i dont want to show it to you how res 0 didnt exist in the game
the fact that you are the one who try to argue with it make me have less energy to do so
mfw
Sounds like sanity issue 
hey guys
its not sanity issue
it just noth worth my effort and time
and that knowledge is from long ago
i didnt know if there is change since i didnt keep myself updated
i have a question
will the roberta skin be unobtainable if i dont finish the trial withij 40 minutes
How do you actually test the slugs if they have res or not
Everything one shots which make it hard
Yes
ya
get level 25 and dip
i cant
uh idk check with e0 1 casters and e0 1 marksmen
Crawlers have 0 def and 0 res
this is like they made an anti ling stage
code. get off your ling shells and try other teams. TN3 is the perfect opportunity to do so
Where do I find a RES shred source with no damage
For testing, use Saria s3 for red numbers on arts
step 1. stop using ling
The Saria needs to be at least s3m2 ig

@shell arch will trial come back with the roberta skin?
no
no
no way
Step 1. Speedrun stages rn
you either stop using ling or you miss roberta skin
why no one tell me
omg
i thought this was unlimited tries
i mean its here to stay
please
no
dont go
stay
its unlimited tries. within 7 days 
noo
step 1. stop using ling
staaay
45 minutes left
It is, but limited time^^^
37 minutes left
Why do you folks need a no damage res shred anyways
how many trials do i need to complete
like 20 times if you repeatedly farm tn1
farm?
it is farmable
oh
The exp is
theres no auto
UT map are available right?
Yes
Yes
wth
the only way you can get roberta skin is to abandon ling and try the trial squads
you mad
stop chatting here and do tfn now
or you miss roberta skin
Amigo don't feed the muncher
both
damnit
huh, i havent been here in months and he still hasnt dropped the Ling grind?
if you didnt play now the skin will go away
It's his gimmick ofc not
like i said
He never stopped the Ling grind
abandon ling or abandon roberta skin
basic trial right? 20x?
it could be more than 20x. i didnt bother to check
the point is it is impossible right now
pls anyine do a quick maf
Just pretend u forgor
omg
can you do 20 times in 30 minutes 
nope
why no one told me
the game told you with timers
nope
wow rainchan
it didnt show

no one is obliged to directly tell you that roberta skin is limited
abandon ling or abandon roberta skin
hello person that recognize me
omg
Hello dalao rainchan
dalao 
There has been a timer on the bottom left since last week
Oh wait wrong person? 
30mins left. Abandon ling or abandon roberta skin
its too small
depends on what youre looking for
and i dont read that much
i am merely a shift enjoyer
🛐
i just go in and do event
code
Oh i guess right then
i just want to say
my father in heaven forgive me
if you missed roberta skin, blame no one but yourself. you had been given an option to abandon ling and you chose to abandon roberta skin


Speaking of shift
it was a surprise attack
Can anyone help with playwright in #is-station ? Noone is there
Where the fuck is Mint Record Restore?
oh you will abandon one thing. in 28 minutes
U missed a lot time chatting her tbh

Just do the stage muncher
what stage should i do
What is this about Ling and Roberta skin?
code cant ling the TN stages. first clear rewards give huge exp to get roberta skin. either he keep ling the stages or abandon ling and get huge exp from first clear rewards
TN-1 also fast af
Ic
Yes
Any one can help me with playwright?
Noone in #is-station
only mod3 ed ethan so far
Holy shit
Its the
apparently there are devices that increase your team's stats in TN
Yes. You just noticed?
you can't turn it on half the time

...
farewell
You have to have cleared the wave before
too sad to speak
well
tbf it's only usable from 2nd run onwards
It's usable in the first run if you can't clear all of it at once
The device is supposed to help you get to where you last lost the stage
Why
With the atk device and that I can use jaye on patriot P1
because
~~that's already counted as a run ~~ 
i lost
i feel like a chunk of me died
i dont abandon skins
never
but no one told me
so i ...
Probably your emotional center of the brain
you have no one but yourself to blame for not reading
im very emotional now
You sustained too much Emotional Damage and need a wandering medic to heal you
Nah they're already stunned you need to call a therapist
i cant believe this
You need lumen

Ceylon will make you sustain more Emotion Damage
pls let me get the skin again
Purestream will suggest you drink water
pls
Might come back in a cc shop..
No
An anti-ling mode
The contingency contract
its just because i gavent raised my 6vstars
They rerun skins now and then
👈 
Man
I accidentally triggered the whole chat by suggesting someone build something
@pearl muskplease help
When did you start playing
He was victim of rerolling into Ling i think 
Guys, how does Pozy's base skill work? I can't get it
- gold factories too
Top barrier
the increase is on the tp she's assigned to 
Each Durin (Durin, Myrtle, Minimalist, Chestnut) anywhere on base as well as each factory doing gold give pozy +5% trade post (+30% with 4 Durins and 2 gold factories)
You can click on Gold Production Line on Pozy skill when viewing her on base select
as well as during for uh... list of durins
Iirc there's also some ops who increase the gold production line points in their skills but in general her base skill is kinda meh
Wait, Tuye (5% + 15% for each 2 gold line) and Kirara(5%, 2 gold line for each 2 gold lines) have gold production line based skills 
who in their right mind with e2 Tuye and Kirara for that
Shu
i don't kirara to check but i can confirm Tuye includes Pozy's gold lines
Only problem is wasting 4 base slots on durins 
just put in dorm, ez 
Fuck if Tuye includes Kirara's lines it will be +185% Tuye 
according to shu
Or even better, 1 trade post + 4 gold factories for +245% Tuye
he likes kirara so i dont see why he wouldnt e2 tuye
you are talking about m6 kirara
i talk e2 base skill memes
WAIT FUCK TUYE + POZY + PROVISO 
+80% Proviso estate
Wait is Kirara in new selector
if you mean the ic one, nope
fuck 
use ely myrtl to generate dp and use warf to buff poz
also by that time u should have already deployed two car roads on the top sides
this is the team that i used
i was borrowing warf cauz mine is still e0 
yeah when the boss drops u need to have at least 70 dp to deploy 2 medics, 2 casters and 1 car road
my strat at least kinda a modified kyo's one but the core is the same
Revisiting this
I tested it
Yeah it has 0 RES
Idk I ran out of things to do
Ig that was an interesting map
magallan s1 could make top side less ethan rng huh
Is that shining with ptilopsis
uhuh
I bought her skin on last year and I still don't have her
Lancet not enough to heal lee 
You going for secrets?
Is ethan modded?
mod3
am i able to ask about cc10 here
yes
ok because i have an idea for part of my strategy
the main thing that can ruin it is... what are reborn creations' weight?
because my strategy is to stall the left side with wild mane then, when the cannon is about to fire, use s2 to push everyone to mudrock to get her targetted and pop s3 right before the cannon hits her
weight 0
then on the right side i can just do, like...
thorns+ntr+kaltsit+elysium+chalter
Oh no, it is time for double -50% deploy cars vanguards knights
elysium is there to lower def for chalter and thorns
but what risk is this?
then i can take, like... myrtle and saga for dp gen and gravel to bait sarkaz casters
goin for risk 18 week 1
it would be fun if only there isnt 4 surfer in each corner @glass monolith

like sheesh man
FUCK YOU FOR TELLING ME THAT 
literally cock blocker
Now it is not that fun to blind it
have fun malding
cuz i didnt

ran out of practice plan for normal stage alone
not even CM yet
just run paradoxical explosion and turn surfboard dudes into bombs
then why do you need wild mane to push enemies into mud when you can just deploy mud and let her kill all the enemies with the canon
then you dies to red buggies
hurray
all 4 bullshit aspect are in the same stage
red cars that melt your defender
i... you have a point but at the same time i thought itd be cool to use wild mane in a risk 18 week 1 clear
caster thats spawn in the middle of the map so you cant literally avoid them
surfer that cock block everything
also shes a lot cheaper and lowers deploy cost of guards
And i have no way to kill surfers efficiently 
Well and i just need Mousse and Utage.... which i didn't build 
borrow surtr
I WILL FIGURE

I worked it force shit
just run paradoxical explosion
let me do a spoiler
have them blow up by blocking cars
then you die to red cars
How far 2 Pull against 3 Weight moves?
so heres my full cc10 idea
im basically making a killbox in front of ntr
chalter is borrow unit
Oh, that is initial placement? Dude kill top row, loop some cars, ez map 
Does anyone know how to break the shield of the boss in IC-9? I can’t beat it
loop using operators
don't use any cars then 
Dude. EX-3 CM, +4 Pads chip, manual all the way
what kind of squad are you working with
i literally beat ex-1 using zero operators
but if you use ops they will die from the caster lol
Dude those caster is nothing
Recall fucking 900 arts damage NOT ELITE ENEMY caster LE?
When fucking CC7 boss has 450?
as for this, if it's R18, i think the better mudrock placement is E3
no idea if right side will work, but i would expect some deaths
the thought is that mudrock is that far forward so she can kill sarkaz casters
@glass monolith they crowded and they are hard to kill so kinda 
wild mane will deliver reborns to mudrock when the time is right
they'll die to cannon fire
i wanna do funny wild mane push strats
if i wanted to just have mudrock completely solo the left side id move her one down lol
Chen S2M3 says no 
How do I use this squad to beat IC-9
with an all e1 squad, your best bet is probably going to be relying on arts damage, it's also going to be really hard to kill the drone on the first pass
let me check what car parts you have on, cause idk what any of them do
How do you break the shield of the drone tho
Coz I keep dying to it
The drone keeps killing then too fast
it's just a 10k hp shield
it carries the def/res of the drone itself
which is 600 def/50 res
iirc
The drone keeps killing any ops that I try to kill it with before I can do anything
one sec
I place them here
do you have any other operators raised btw?
what's the general strategy for the IS2 "traveler from afar"?
i can never seem to get out unscathed
i usually try to use a sniper to pummel everything that comes out of the top left red box before it can destroy everything
my suggestion would be to play closer to the blue box, the blue arrow things would be where you place the road thingies that change the cars' direction
absinthe and amiya on s1
hmm
you could face lumen right too, since that would cover gavial as well, but i think it's here and there
they've generally got too much health, though. and in emergency ops, that is even more of a problem
and the fireball tends to come back around and kill said sniper
the basic idea though is to keep the cars coming in to supplement your healing
Btw what do you use to get the map?
medic
Seems like it will be useful
Thanks
ganbatte
Is that all the things I need?
just the basic idea
try playing further back and see how it feels
nothing is set in stone
but i think you're sacrificing too much by playing forward
I see
Am needeth of help with 4-4
I’m mainly worried that my healers can’t out heal the drone
that might be an issue, the cars should help with that
focus on getting siege out, then the top two casters
then the cars
you should be able to delay medic deployments for long enough
Ok thanks
would you like roadblock placements? or just general tips
Both pls
It’s been 5 days
i forget the exact order of roadblocks, but its loosely top left to bottom right
the basic idea is to force every enemy to cross over the originium tiles to cause self-bleed
then stack some ranged dps around the middle, and where you can, to help kill the bleeding enemies
crownslayer idles for a long time on the bottom bleed tile if you'd like to kill her there
and if you can't shaw s1 (sl4 at least) sitting on E12 facing down can send her into an infinite loop
the sarkaz crossbowmen are dangerous enemies, so don't forget to cover ranged units with medics, or place a ground tile tank to bait their shots
But I cracked the shield right after the boss left
i forgot to mention that
Gavial
Golden glow and lumen
so the stun field is placed on the person with the lowest number of surrounding allies
which means you can bait the stun field away from the ops you care about by placing some poor idiot far away to get hit by it
Hoshiguma?
sure
Or liskarm
alright, let me have a look at some numbers to see which unit might be a good borrow for this
because what's really missing from the team right now is some burst damage
Numbers?
Almost
lmao
just like, skill damage etc
My most meme fail on secret ending had SECOND shield die while first was 50% hp 
Your end or my end?
my end
yeah, that's why i have to check some stuff
Coz that’s the limit for borrowing for me
What’s your number?
i would consider putting ceobe in goldenglow's spot, then goldenglow in amiya's
like this
Igneus#1125
Honestly sounds kinda like I’m hitting on you lol
Thanks
don't forget to bait the stun field
I can’t find you
capital i?
Found it
Just copy paste
Name id are case sensitive
alright, give that a shot
Which is so big F you from game devs 
Like why the fuck give all that UI to friend search if shit is so sensitive you can find only 1 person with exact match
i wonder if ceobe can 1 cycle the boss at e1
no
but then im not sure how the frame rounding bug on sl7 work for her
she won't have enough total damage
i'm not even sure if she's the best option here
but my next suggestion would be someone like rockrock
who isn't that much better

probably not better
Tanked it with one hp left
you mean the drone leaked?
i think you can get it
if you face lumen to the right, he can cover another ranged tile further away
you'd be able to place another operator to help dps
The boss still had like two thirds of its health

Might not work as it will have nobody surrounding it
Then Get stunned
how'd you handle the stun this time?
You may have to uh
Haven’t tried yet
why?
Because infinite fist doesnt provide any combat benefit compare to lets say, launch cooldown or cheaper turning pad and such
You have more oppotunity for the heal from car
At least keeping them alive
Or just uh
Aspd buff
probably more upkeep than worth
this sounds like bad advice
I mean what i did for my low cost run is aspd buff on perfumer

Then everything leaks
did you see what killed them
I assume the cars did
I think it’s a mix of the drone and the baseball thing
Ok short explanation
Baseball launcher get atk for every attack
Reset if get hit by car
Drone attack lock down onto ops and prioritize the one that arent locked down
So practically aoe despite only target 1
I think mistimed the cars?
the cars weren't running?
Did just didn’t hit the baseball

I think I activated them too late
Whats the car pathing
Forward down
Left into siege and turn and left into lappa
Hold on
Something like this
Did you post it already
do you have the car part that inflicts chill btw?
Since i didnt backread
Yes
But I’m using the decrease res one for increased dmg
the chill one is really strong since it can keep the enemies in the same place forever once they get frozen
no idea if the -res even works against the drone
For the guys on the ground I mean
I dont think so lol
Ye
- enemies that are frozen can't attack you
Clear
Then what’s the point of the stun gear
Coz I’m using it over the physical one
stun with chill is like safety net ig
Same
I might respond quite late
I’m back
The strat kinda didn’t work
Tthe boss had less health but still didn’t die
Like a little under half
IC-9
F
Can I see your car/units
Just need to clear it
Ok so you're borrowing then
So you manage to kill the drone but not the durin?
Ok
How much hp does the boss have after you dps it?
Do this, add any slower to your roster, even Orchid will work, remove 1 hp recover and add 1 asp, put ling where Amiya is and Amiya where Lumen is, prepare the dragons to bind the boss, put Orchid where Ling belonged and maybe that will work
And Lumen can go anywhere you see its good
All slowers not built
Not even Orchid?
Honestly i think the best operator at e1 to borrow for ic9 boss might be schwarz with s2
E0

I was borrowing a ceobe
@fringe cipher Dheurus#1335
Arts kind of sucks cause the boss has 50 res
Can’t try now, I gtg
Oh, ok
Bye
👋
@fringe cipher it works if you manage to level Orchid
Is this that simple

Also why 0 dp cars
Or is that anni thing
If 0 dp cars, level is done






