r-i-i-c

[orchid bane]

Just wait till you have enough

-# ||don't listen to Wrys ||

[bright root]

what do you mean wait? Like just do it from daily missions?

[orchid bane]

You have 9CD and used up all of them ?

[orchid bane]

Yeah

Daily monthly stuffs

[bright root]

thats 3 sticks a day

what is the conversion

[orchid bane]

You used all you have for 9CD ?

Also, downgrade a dorm give you back something

Iirc

[bright root]

no it doesn't

it gives you block but you can't decontrust them to carbon bricks

you can't turn building mats to higher qualities

[orchid bane]

Yes it does

Although it is not enough. Just use them

How many carbon things you have ??

Downgrading 3 lv2 dorm can upgrade you a lv2 to lv3 fac, yes

[silent nova]

I'm out of exp it's over chat

[orchid bane]

I don't have enough lmd to use my exp

[vital oriole]

You guys have either?

[fluid pollen]

Nominally

[orchid bane]

If I upgrade more OP , surely I don't have enough

Not sure how many ppl here actually fully upgrade all OPs and don't need exp any longer

[bright root]

i am confused how do i turn the boxs into the crafting amterials to then make the higher ones, otherwise I don't see how downgrading can upgrade other buildigns

[orchid bane]

Oh wait we can't

It's been forever since I last used it

[fluid pollen]

That’s in terms of energy

Not building mats.

[fluid pollen]

We all need exp bro

[orchid bane]

We me and you ?. Sure. We everybody? I dunno

[fluid pollen]

If we had everything maxed out.

We wouldn’t be here

🥹

[orchid bane]

Fair point

[wanton orbit]

hello i just swapped to 252 (max right) from 243 what are some base combos and rotations that i can make with my roster?

https://www.krooster.com/u/ory

[queen flicker]

im out of exp too

[summer kernel]

Anyone have a M9 weedy I can borrow? I know at least one of you does

[sonic sun]

is this okay?

or i can make it better?

[summer kernel]

This is around half the LMD and Gold you can be making. What setup are you running?

[sonic sun]

5 factory 2 tp 2 power

[summer kernel]

12 hour shifts?

[sonic sun]

as for the workers i just put like matching color

[sonic sun]

as long as i open ak

[orchid bane]

S2 S3 no module is what I have

Back then I don't m3 s1 cause I m3 FEater

[summer kernel]

Take a look at the NOOB section of the spreadsheet in the 4th link in Pin2. There's definitely low hanging fruit you could improve. Obviously logging in more would help too

[sonic sun]

yes im lately been slowing down on ak, thanks for the tips would ask more if there's any i didn't know

[summer kernel]

Might be able to make it work with S2 since no one has S1M3 lol. Can you add me?

[orchid bane]

Wait I have friend acc m9 mod x higher pot

Give me your ID

[summer kernel]

My name lol

[orchid bane]

Added, set it

[sonic sun]

iam just bad at base comp right?

or iam generally bad at ak?

[orchid bane]

Your CC there is bad

I would rather change Poca and Sail for 2 smiley face

That is for Mlynar skill

I guess you don't read their skill

Your other CC setup is bad too

But tbh. I am too lazy to go through everything atm

[fluid pollen]

‘Friend acc’

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

More like Blue’s

What’ve you done with him

[orchid bane]

I have no idea what are you talking bout

[fluid pollen]

Truly greed is the killer of all time.

[sonic sun]

true

leme read back that cc skill does again

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

[orchid bane]

👆🏿 This is me when there are news about Collab right after ATO ended

[round lichen]

You’re using Conviction in a metal Fac

As others have already said, your CC setups are completely uncoordinated. You don’t need Saileach since Penance already gives +50% HR, Rosa is literally useless, Yato and Kaltsit need to be in separate rotations, Reed alter is most likely wasting the CC slot she’s in

What is W doing in that PP? You could just put her in Myrtle’s place and put Myrtle in WS if you want to power up Hoederer. And speaking of Hoederer, you have him working in a TP while neither Ines nor W are boosting him

I could keep going but you need to read the base skills spreadsheet before we can really help you

[sonic sun]

alright i guess i need to read more

also about 12 hours shift

that mean switching rotation every 12 manually even their moral isn't out yet?

[round lichen]

Yes

When your ops reach 0 morale they stop giving productivity, so you swap them before that happens

[sonic sun]

man i've been doing the opposite of that for years now

[orchid bane]

Actually cap is what give 0, when OP out of morale most of them still run at 100%

Still that is bad enough, should swap them out before they die tired anyway

[urban orchid]

Hmmm... was the option that rotates assistant operators every time you go into home screen is from this update?

[hard basin]

Asking to 252 peeps which is most of you, what's your average lmd and gold

Because my current 243 comp average in 60k lmd, forgot about gold one

[hard basin]

So, i rearrange the comp, and i dont think i can put eunectes in phase 1.

Phase 1 is knight combo team, that require flametail nad vivi in cc, 3 pinus in exp fcatory, and jk in pp, plus bonus gravel in gold factory from vivi bonus 7% .

However, eunectes team need greyylt rhag is incompatible with robots.

Dead lancet help with eunectes, but would dead justice knight count for wild mane?

We could kick justice knight, reducing 5% from pinus exp factory but replace it 20% drone recovery, which is an increase 10%

So, would dead justice knight still give bonus to wild mane?

Also, wouldn't mlynar in phase 1 would last longer because flame tail and vivi have smiley skill

[hasty tiger]

Since both setups use 2 trading posts the lmd will just be based on your teams/comps. The main difference will be exp/gold outputs

[round lichen]

As a general rule of thumb, 10% drone recovery is roughly equivalent to +5% FAC or TP productivity. Switching to a 20% PP worker would be equivalent at worst, or more efficient if you want to sacrifice some EXP to increase your gold productivity or use drones on Proviso.

Losing Vivi’s buff on Gravel is a legitimate concern. You might want to switch Gravel and Minimalist, since she will give +42% with Vivi’s buff, while Minimalist’s 40% is equivalent to the 35+5 you would normally get from having Gravel with Bryo. In the ideal scenario she would get both buffs, but ultimately 243 is an obstacle to that. The gains from having +160% gold during your main shift are worth it imo.

One of 243’s advantages over 252 is that Lv 2 FACs and TPs only give -.05 morale drain/hour, while Lv 3 give -.1. This means that operators can naturally last 36 hours in a Lv 3 facility with no help from Młynar. The problem is that PP doesn’t get this benefit, so Greyy2 dies after 32 hours. This leaves you with a few options…

1. Simply put up with the lost productivity.
   Even losing 20% FAC and 23% PP, 160-20-11.5=128.5 is still better than the next-best alternative, and it would only be for 4 hours. 12-hour average for the 3rd shift would be 149.5%.
2. Find a way to stagger Młynar and Eunectes so that Greyy2 can last exactly 36 hours.
   Here’s what I’m thinking: you could have 2 shifts running dead Lancet, then 1 shift where Weedy-Eunectes-Purestream are in Fac, Greyy2 is in PP, and Młynar is in CC with Flametail and Vivi. Greyy2’s Morale loss for each shift would be 9-9-6, which exactly sums to 24. 12-hour average for the 3rd shift would be 140%.
3. Login at irregular times.
   You’re already using Gladiia. If you do something similar by making Greyy2’s final shift 8 hours, you get the best productivity, at the cost of destroying your sleep schedule
4. Don’t bother, just use Bryo team
   Not recommended, but I wouldn’t blame you because I’m tired of thinking about this too tbh

[chilly patio]

Is this a good amount of exp production? I'm having issues with exp right now and thinking of converting to 1/6/2 for exp production.

[silent nova]

Cant do 162 since factories are limited to 5

That's pretty bad on the factory front, part of which is that I'm assuming you're droning tp

[chilly patio]

Oh fr? Thx

Problem is that I have scuffed 2/5/2, so since I have to account for proviso draining my gold, I have to run 3 factorys dedicated to gold, 2 of those facts being my lv 3 facts. I found out that even switching one lv 2 gold fact to a exp fact puts me at a gold deficit, so idk wat to do for exp gain

[silent nova]

I mean it looks like you're already at a gold deficit lol

Who's your XP and gold workers

[round lichen]

I’m currently using 4 gold facs and I make ~150 gold bars per day. That’s 37.5 bars per fac/day. Something has to be very wrong with your workers to be making less than 20 per Fac/day

Are you only logging in once per day?

[hard basin]

I think im gonna got with swire, hoshi2, flametail, vivi, and eunectes

factory exp are vermeil/scene/pallas and pinus team

Factory gold are weedy purestream/windlift and bryo/thorn2/gravel

Pp are dead lancet, a 20% and greyy2

I will sacrifice jk if it means getting 160% gold. Greyy2 worth 20% gold because he increase pp count by 1. If there is greyyalt but no jk, i got 23% pp and 20% gold, plus the other 20% pp from other unit beside JK, total at 58% (0+5+23+5+20+5)drone from all pp. if i put JK, i lose 20% gold for healthy lancet and jk and another 20% pp, total at 55% (10+5+10+5+20+5).

Im gonna put up with it. Im taking pharmacist profesional study program irl and i need my sanity for that. Again, im bad at staggered strat because it is super intensive. Doing just gladiia already took much of it.

[round lichen]

That’s so valid

[hard basin]

I highly appreciate of your input, so thank you very much

Barely anybody in the discord im in talk about base

Btw, what's the average of the best 252 team produce in term of gold and exp

[round dock]

Endfield having a "base" with rotations...

I thought here was bad enough

[pale yoke]

if you're talking about the dijang...yea akalter don't have enough operator to do rotation

[silent nova]

Rotations there are a pita anyways

[pale yoke]

who is pita?

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Desperate

[hard basin]

Wrong channel?

[jaunty notch]

nah that's flexing rocks. Def unrelated to this channel though

[astral tiger]

the R in riic stands for rock

[arctic prism]

While we're on the topic of wrong channel and endfield, if any of you are playing on na/eu feel free to add lol
6767399147

Can send each other 7s over there too

[orchid bane]

[normal dagger]

My base is usually like this, are the numbers good

It's 522 with the noob roster cos I don't have many built units..

[plucky basin]

isn't hoshi2 better than the MH ops? She gives 1% more, mmh

I'm guessing I should swap out the 2 MH in CC for swire and hoshi 2

and move TRC for something else

can use underflow for that, nice

but mmh, is the factory boost worth the lower trade orders...

trades are done with drones anyway, factory is better

goodbye MH ops

[orchid bane]

MH are bad even before hoshi2 released no?

[pale yoke]

[pale yoke]

That's EU?

6767😭

[pale yoke]

That's on the lower end

Truth be told base gaming aren't exactly friendly to newer player

Either locked behind kernel or limited

[normal dagger]

I see kalsit + ceobe in kernel, how good are they for base

I'll save for Collab banners first

[plucky basin]

there wasn't much better though

[orchid bane]

Yato2 noir2 . I don't remember who is fac but fac is not so good and have kal and m3 for replacement
Ofc there are tons of Amiya-like to replace TP part . They don't have Yato2 debuff too
About TRC 41%. Please, that is 1%

[plucky basin]

???

[orchid bane]

What part do you don't get ?

They are bad since forever

[plucky basin]

I still didn't have any better

also I'm confused by your answer cause you're only talking about ops that just do the same thing

kal or mon3tr give only 2% for factory, so it's worse than hoshi 2

and it's the same as MH

[orchid bane]

And don't have yato2 debuff

[plucky basin]

the debuff didn't matter here

[orchid bane]

The debuff make them bad

[plucky basin]

it's my off-rotation

it has gladiia

noone else tires faster

I just switched the MH for hoshi2 and swire, and using underflow instead of TRC, so I changed 1% to TP for 1% to all factories

which is better

[pale yoke]

m3 out perform kal now and ceobe team aren't on top anymore either

[orchid bane]

A Kal+ Amiya + 40% already feel better than them for years ago

If they suit your rotation and that 1% feel really that good for you then sure

Back then

[plucky basin]

You didn't read what I said. They're the same, and the debuff doesn't matter in that rotation.

That 1% meant they were better

[orchid bane]

Nah debuff suck , Yato2 die fast

[plucky basin]

Hoshi2 giving 3% just makes her the best compared to the others

[plucky basin]

You're still not reading

[orchid bane]

Let just stop here. I don't change my mind, but if they are good for you in the past. So they are good

[hard basin]

As someone who use both, mh team advatage is just 1% more for trc in trading post but downside of lower time is bad because ideal team is longlasting AND big number. If it's transition team mh team is good enough tho

But yeah, better pick other 7%tp and 2%fac with 40% trading post.

[hard basin]

Kalt is good since she is the few CC ops that have 2%, pudding is too restrictive with the robots, noir2 is impossible to get, and m3 is kalt upgrade but not available currently

Ceobe isn't good now but still viable if your team still bad. You need e1 bubble and e2 Vulcan tho

[simple violet]

Could someone help me fix my CC rotation? Ever since I added Hoshiguma and removed Mlynar, I haven’t been able to keep my TPs full with Fiametta, so I don’t think this is the right rotation.

I have: Mlynar, Mon3tr, Flametail, Viviana. Ascalon, Kirin, Noir Corne, Hoshi2, Swire. CE, Wis'adel. Eunectes.

I don’t have Dusk or Chongyue. Is there an optimal CC rotation I’m missing?

[orchid bane]

Duh that is what mylnar do. He keeps your whole base working for longer

Remove him and fia refreshes less

I keep my CC simple
Mlynar Mon3rt Flametail vivi + smiley and their squad
Wis CE Hoshi Swire + alter

[plucky basin]

well it's 3% fac now

[plucky basin]

what about kestrel

[jaunty notch]

who are your fiam targets and why do you have 3 sets of tp/fac cc workers? With your rots it should be easy to get 3 fiam constantly

[simple violet]

I was just listing every viable CC op I could think of. I don’t use them all currently.

Fiam targets are Proviso, Shamare, Tequila.

[simple violet]

I don’t actually have Kestrel. It looks like she comes from RA? I’ve strangely never done that, but happy to go snag her!

[summer kernel]

Should I stop buying some of the T2s from the shop? Are sugars even used anymore?

[arctic prism]

NA
But I think EU uses same numbers? Not sure

[jaunty notch]

Mlynar, Mon3tr, Flametail, Viviana, Ascalon in 1 shift and you'll get proviso going over 36h. Rest is your choice

[jaunty notch]

60 xiranite/m

[fickle vine]

[chilly patio]

https://www.krooster.com/u/foldgish any base slaves worth raising here?

[hard basin]

A lot

E1 caper (the best reception during clue exchange)
E1 bubble (you can combo her with e2 Vulcan and e0 bena)
E1 haze (cheap gold production)

[chilly patio]

thx

[hard basin]

E2 Vulcan (combo with e1 bubble and e0 bena)
E2 bryo (combo with gravel and haze)
E2 Christine (combo qith e1 vermeil and e2 tragodia)

E2 Crownslayer, feater (35% exp)

E2 vigil, kichisei (40% trading post)

E2 civilight (combo with amiya and increase reception speed)

E2 Greyy2 (23% powerplant)

E2 bibeak (combo with tequila and shamare)

That's the main one i recognize or remember

Do remember this list is based on what you have, not the most optimum

For the best combo and ops, see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/htmlview#gid=1263834449

[chilly patio]

thx

[simple violet]

Is it worth trying to use Eunectes as well? Would that mean the other rotation is Yato/Noir Corne or Hoshi/Swire, CE/Wis'adel, Eunectes?

I'll have full uptime on Proviso, but not on Eunectes.

[fluid pollen]

mh getting unnecessarily slandered when Yato only causes herself morale issues. Which can be fixed by js running them for 1 shift.

[pale yoke]

Or just FIA yato

[jaunty notch]

Yeah yato only got replaced after hoshi

[round lichen]

Most operators that need E2 will take way too long to pay for themselves if you raise them purely for base. I would prioritize Crownslayer and Greyy2 since they’re actually useful outside of base. Feater also has some uses, though she’ll be largely redundant once you put masteries on Weedy. Caper, Arene, and Haze only need E1, so they won’t take too long to pay off. I wouldn’t recommend Vulcan, Christine, Civilight, Bibeak, or Kichisei. The first 3 will become obsolete once you fill out your roster, while Bibeak takes 2 decades to pay off. Kichisei is useless to you since you’re 252.

That leaves Bubble, Bryo, Vigil, and Aroma. Bubble just takes E1, so it won’t cost too much, but her best partner is Vulcan, who needs E2. The rest of these guys will improve your prod but are really mediocre in battle, and should only be raised when your actual gameplay-relevant ops are all raised

I would use MH combo if I didn’t leave Noir2 at E0

But I think that’s a major drawback worth considering. Kal/Mon3tr are 6-stars you would want to E2 regardless of base, and they can pair with any E0 5-star buddy

[chilly patio]

does vigil need e2?

[round lichen]

Yes

Actually are you 252 max left? If so Vigil is useless

[chilly patio]

yea...

wait do you mean max right?

my right is maxed

[round lichen]

If you’re max right then Vigil gives 40% TP, pretty decent

[chilly patio]

seems like a deep investment

epsecialy since i have both a proviso team and a tequila team

ig i could replace quartz with vigil but that seems like a waste of resources for an extra 6% boost

[round lichen]

That’s why I said to only raise them when you’re done with gameplay-relevant ops

[chilly patio]

fair

wat does haze get at e1?

[round lichen]

30% gold in Fac

[chilly patio]

she has that at e0 tho...

[round lichen]

Oh

She gets 30% TP

Yeah you don’t have to raise her

[chilly patio]

what does vulcan get at e2?

[round lichen]

Extra +3 cap and -.1 MD/hour

[chilly patio]

ah i see

yea imma just level up bubble and leave it at that

does underflow need e2 for base usage?

[round lichen]

At E0 she’s only 30%, at E2 she’s 40% with Ulpianus

[chilly patio]

is underflow a good pick in is once i get gummy?

if she isnt bad il raise her for base and maybe some usage in is6 once the expansion comes out

[round lichen]

I’ve only ever seen her used by nicheknights YouTubers. Her role is completely different from Gummy, she can hit aerial, reveal invis, and has decently high hit count, but Ines completely mogs her

[jaunty notch]

she isn't used that much

[chilly patio]

fair, is grey alter used much?

[round lichen]

Not in IS6, but he’s great in IS5

[chilly patio]

il e2 him then

[jaunty notch]

specifically with flinger hand and king relics

[chilly patio]

i can run him and weedy in one of my lv 2 facs for more gold (mb meant weedy and purestream with grey adding an extra pp)

[summer kernel]

<@&586570970345635868>

[runic widget]

Sigh

[summer kernel]

I forgot since the last Krooster check but do any new ops use sugar now?

[orchid bane]

Sugar T4 no

T3 ofc they could be upgraded to useable T5

But the demand is not so high

[summer kernel]

I'm thinking of skipping some of those T2 mats, especially sugar but tbh I might as well since it's either that or Kohl lol.

I think I have enough jars for 5months so I might just straight up go back to Penance jail for glue

[orchid bane]

Skip the grindstone in CC store

[summer kernel]

I skip everything except the block in the CC store lol. Saving for those pots

[orchid bane]

Oh yea, if I had alot of Royal Token remained , then I wound do the same

This is my personal future upgrade Operators. You might take this for references

[modern atlas]

ok. someone send me her to start learning about my base workers. can someone help me?

[inner ocean]

another dupe so early.

[summer kernel]

Check out the Base Teams and Combos Guide in Pin2, Link4. The NOOB tab will get you started but the guide is fairly comprehensive and will teach you the mechanics and what you can strive for

[valid storm]

be me and have multiple dupes already

[inner ocean]

i already posted my first dupe of the new set earlier in the month

although Fortune Tree is just the 2nd dupe

[valid storm]

I only need Newspaper Rack dupes

[summer kernel]

When did they drop the new set?

[valid storm]

~2 weeks ago

it came with Ato

[summer kernel]

New random drop set every limited or does HG do as they choose?

[valid storm]

the second one

[orchid bane]

How many you guys have?

1 dupe here

[valid storm]

2 dupes

[orchid bane]

[summer kernel]

Only 3/22 and also 2 dupes

[valid storm]

our luck is horrible

[orchid bane]

Indeed indeed

[summer kernel]

Red probably just at the mines while we're farming jars so he had 21/6 times the odds of getting the pieces

[valid storm]

or Jusan is stealing our furni

[valid storm]

every stage has the same chance to get furniture. Well, per sanity spent, except for the SK stages, where the chance is basically doubles

and based on my experience, event stages with new lucky drop have a higher chance of hte new set

[summer kernel]

I gotta brush up on my statistics but I think you're still more likely to get more pieces if you run more lower sanity stages, even if the expectation is the same. Poisson distribution magic iirc

[valid storm]

well, yes, because 4 lower chance drops is better than 1 higher chance drop

[summer kernel]

Yea, we're not unlucky. Red just running tons of 1-7

[valid storm]

And someone is stealing our furniture

[summer kernel]

(let us cope)

[valid storm]

and force HG to give us what we need

[fluid pollen]

In the end it doesn’t really matter

[valid storm]

no, it does

[fluid pollen]

Just buy off shop…

[valid storm]

the sooner I can update the design, the better it is

[fluid pollen]

Time to chuck money at 1-7 then

[valid storm]

that's what I do if no event

I need for my production

[hard basin]

Guys, do we have option to turn dupe furniture into bolts

[valid storm]

No

[hard basin]

I mean like if i have full set, any furniture dupes can be burned to bolts

I should've add that in the feedback box back then

[valid storm]

Well, yes, but why would you do that?

I mean, you can turn furniture into parts, but don't do that

not worth it

[hard basin]

Well, what would you need from dupes

[valid storm]

to use them in a different dorm?

[hard basin]

I remember i got like 4 floor but it is too far down in the workshop, and i have dozens like that

[hard basin]

Use different set

[valid storm]

different set?

what are you talking about

[hard basin]

Why would you need multiple of same furniture set

[valid storm]

to use the pieces in different dorms

[hard basin]

Nah, too much work, the furniture set is perfect as it is with their original set

Better use different set for different dorm to showcase what you have

[valid storm]

no, you should create your own designs

[hard basin]

All the sanity is already used for base ops comp, not enough for dorm too

[valid storm]

you don't need sanity to create dorms

[hard basin]

Yes you do, unless your taste is bad

[valid storm]

No, you don't, well, except if you are trying to create 35k+ designs

[pale yoke]

222

[jade hollow]

>
<<
Where is it?

Ah, okay.

[valid storm]

???

[jade hollow]

Woke up to a mod ping in here.

But the ping was delayed, so thought it was new.

[valid storm]

oh

[orchid bane]

So many mods

[viral anchor]

yeah i lowk need some help w my base

its so confusing

[orchid bane]

What you need ?

[viral anchor]

no like help in general

[orchid bane]

Green Power Plant, give you power, there are upper green number . if it shows 180/200, it means you have 200 power and have used 180, 20 left

Yellow Factory, give you most importantly goldbar and Exp just take time or drone, make sure you chose the yellow exp

Blue Trading Post, most importantly trade goldbar for LMD

Take time or drone

[viral anchor]

i

i know

but the pattern

of amount of factories and trading posts

[orchid bane]

For starter you can go for 2 TP 5 FAC 2 PP

Keep your office and reception room level as low as you can

One upgraded they can't be downgraded

[viral anchor]

what about operators per each department

[orchid bane]

Also your dorm level, but this one can be downgraded

[viral anchor]

and what items should i produce and stuff

[orchid bane]

You should produce what you need

Final thing is always lmd and exp

Use your drone to balance them

Do you some how still have 5* voucher and don't own a Proviso ?

[viral anchor]

i have a proviso i think

[viral anchor]

wdym

[orchid bane]

More exp than lmd . make more gold fac, or drone more on gold and TP

More LMD than exp . maybe change more fac to exp, drone on exp

Something like that

My Idea rate for LMD/EXP is between 1.1 and 1.3

[viral anchor]

uhh

and gold factories?? huh??

wait nvm

yeah ts is too confusing

[orchid bane]

If you have Proviso. Make 1 lv2 and 1 lv3 TP

[viral anchor]

ok but

[orchid bane]

Maybe you can't lv3 all your fac and that is normal

[viral anchor]

what if she runs out of morale

[orchid bane]

Put them in dorm

[viral anchor]

and who do i replace them with

[orchid bane]

They are rest room in the center

[orchid bane]

Whoever you have

[viral anchor]

i know i know

[orchid bane]

Maybe for starter. Just use sort function

Efficiency pick leftmost OP

You might want to read their skill later , but that is for now

[viral anchor]

how much gold should i produce btw

[orchid bane]

The important is . are they enough to supply your Trade station

[viral anchor]

idk??

[orchid bane]

Just Enough is good

[viral anchor]

like is 15 enough

[orchid bane]

If they are keep increasing it is kinda bad

If they are not enough. Really bad

[viral anchor]

uh

yeah im out

[orchid bane]

You can try 3 gold 1st

And all your drone on Trade station

See if Trade station can spend all your gold

Base is just a place where you get most of the gold, there are weekly daily mission. Monthly login

Store

So it is kinda impossible to have a strat to balance them all

So maybe you should try 3 fac gold 1st. Use your drone on lv2 TP that have Proviso in it

See how things go

[viral anchor]

so far i've only made 1 trading post, 3 factories and 2 power plants

once i get enough materials i'll make another trading post

[orchid bane]

Yea. Remember not to upgrade RR and HR

Reception room and Office

[jagged lintel]

aloo i've been playing for about a month now as a new player, and have a question. I have the 2/5/2 setup and havent upgrade the right side of my base, but i've been seeing screenshots of people only having 2-3 lvl 3 factories. Is it bad for me to have all lvl 3 tps/factories or no? Im just now getting ready to plan my teams for the qol rotation thing.

[novel grove]

No.. you have the best fac setup

For full max left. You need to downgrade all dorms into lvl1 and kill the last one. So you can have enough power to upgrade the training room to lvl3

3 dorms is sufficient for a rotation. You just need to do it twice

[fluid pollen]

Well new player doesn’t have to bother with masteries so he can js do full max left regardless.

[jagged lintel]

Appreciate it, and yea I've been logging on twice a day, morning and night to spend sanity/base stuff so no biggie there

[amber basin]

Can someone explain me what does shamare and mitm base skill do?

Increasing higher metal yield chances, just how much is it

[summer kernel]

Pin2, Link4: go to the TP tab and it should be the first section (shamare/tequila team)

[keen moat]

just a question but why do people mainly use bibeak/kafka along with shamare and tequila if the other ops with similar skills (tailoring) give practically the same benefit?

is it just preference, or anything in particular? maybe smthn that has to do with the skills?

[limpid frost]

Are there any other regular sources of gold besides the base, weekly missions, and green certs?

[keen moat]

credit store sells gold often

[halcyon nest]

They were just the first two to have the base skill afaik so most base diehards raised them first

[fluid pollen]

It’s time of availability yea.

Paprika and Diamant are relatively new.

[halcyon nest]

Bibeak and Kafka actually saw gameplay use back then as well even in high end content
Can't say the same for Paprika or Diamante

even if the sweats intentionally didn't promote kafka

[fluid pollen]

Yea. But base enjoyers don’t care about err sweating gameplay

[keen moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1358390329916788746/ggnod.gif

okay i get it tyty!

[inner ocean]

I wonder if Nasti's just gonna spook me after I skip her

I skipped Thornstar but was fortunate that he spooked me 2 banners afterwards

Cause Nasti's the only consideration for me to ever update my shifts

[orchid bane]

I will try to get 1 of her copy

Can't be something bad

-# ||like 210 pull right ? ||

Finally questionnaire reward

Now we are safe

[inner ocean]

Nasti only improves my sub effeciency so not much reasoning to pull for her

we're not getting much main-team base combos for a long time thats for sure

[orchid bane]

"Just another inch higher" best AK EP

Also she is so cool

[weary aspen]

Is there a good operator for base here?

[orchid bane]

Swire for Hoshi2

They are a combo no ?

Andrea for Gladia combo. A good but not long combo

Kirara for Pozy combo. If you are planning to use more than 4-gold fac sometime. She is your girl

[weary aspen]

Thank you 🙏

[orchid bane]

[hard basin]

What's the highest exp factory beside vermeil scene pallas and 35% exp+4 abyssal with gladiia

Vermeil-scene-pallas give at max 106%, 35% exp and 2 abyssal with other 2 i. Other factory with gladiia in cc give 115%

[orchid bane]

Are you asking there ?

Speaking of high number in general. There are rosmontis in Sui team

Maybe a lv1 fac with weedy dead lancet team

Oh and ofc knight team for exp. 2 CC slot give you 3 42% OP don't have to be in the same fac. Also 7% more to Gavel

[hard basin]

Yeah, im asking, and i have used them

I use 243, and i can use 3 ops

I used all possible combo (beside suis and worldly plighy because the only sui i have is yu and nian)

My first phase get exp 109%+129%, while golds are 163%+126%

That's pretty good to me, however for phase 2, i use gladiia combo of tragodia with ulpi and skadi, that's 117% while my other exp is feater/crownslayer/conviction which is 107%

I wonder if i can change the 2nd exp

[orchid bane]

If you want more exp in general it is never bad idea to change to 153 for awhile, use 5 exp fac. The point is to get as many exp as possible in short time, and then turn back to 243. You could even use dead lancet if you have windflit passenger

[hard basin]

I use dead lancet combo in first phase, that's how i got 163%

[orchid bane]

For 243 and dead lancet gold. It is not recommended to use dead lancet. The reason is Eunectes in CC value is bad there

[hard basin]

My current plan is to switch my 2nd factory that have specter and andreana and marcille that currently used to make gold to become exp replacing conviction/CS/FE, while the vacant gold is rhine combo with nasti

[hard basin]

What why?

[orchid bane]

Unless you don't have anyone for CC at the time

Greyy2 + Weedy Eunectes Pure give 140% AND 25% PP

[hard basin]

23% pp

[orchid bane]

Dead lancet give 160% and 0% PP for a CC slot

[orchid bane]

I am talking about the dead PP

The greyy2 PP is ofc the same

[hard basin]

Wouldn't dead lancet still retain innate 5%

[orchid bane]

Nope

So basically Eunectes value in CC is 7.5% and you can consider it you have to use that 12.5% PP for gold fac

Oh but if you are like use exactly 12hr shift everyday. Things might get a bit different

Cause drone cap

[fluid pollen]

243 expert Red real

[orchid bane]

Yea dead lancet is good for 12hr login too

Although I am not sure how many drone lost cause it was just increase to 235

[fluid pollen]

Idk also according to most calcs dead Lancet in 243 is cope tho.

Surely 252 tosses dead Lancet when Nasti.

[orchid bane]

Really ?

[orchid bane]

Nah

Just Greyy2 team is good

[fluid pollen]

Just without Eun and dead Lancet ik.

[fluid pollen]

Idk have to see whether it’s possible

Haven’t done the math yet, too lazy.

[hard basin]

You sure? I remember i read that if you have 0 morale, only said ops skill is gone, innate facility still give because it count on an ops is put in said facility

That's why you can put dead ops with solo receptionist to get rarity buff too

[orchid bane]

Not PP

You can just see for yourself

I just do some result. 235 drone cap can give us close to 12hr

[hard basin]

I use that shift until all ops are 0 morale, i do login to use drone on either shamare team or weedy gold team

[orchid bane]

So yea. Dead lancet is terrible for 243. No question

[hard basin]

Aish

Im still gonna use it

[orchid bane]

Yeah. Unless you have nothing else to put in CC as I said

Otherwise not recommend at all

Or 153 and you swap all fac to exp

Yea dead lancet is good there

Cause Pure becomes useless , but you have to E2 both pass and windflit

[fluid pollen]

Well

[orchid bane]

No I am wrong it is even more than 12hr

And I am using mumu and greyy2 + 20%

[fluid pollen]

All the more reason to toss

[hard basin]

This is my current team

So if eunec-weedy-dead lancet comp is bad, who should i replace

[orchid bane]

I am thinking of delphine

[hard basin]

Siege morgan is the best proviso partner tho

[orchid bane]

So you want to keep them working longer ?

With mlynar and m3 ?

Or what ?

[hard basin]

Mlynar and m3 was for gladiia because abyssal give total of 160%, that plus 35% of each factory type (tragodia for exp, marcile for gold)

[orchid bane]

Why mlynar never in the same CC with Vivi flame ?

[hard basin]

Because from what i see the best stand alone skill combined is 105 for exp and 90 for gold

[orchid bane]

They have smiley face

[hard basin]

He was replaced with eunectes so that the 160% is with the long running phase 1

And again mlyanr is for gladiia

[orchid bane]

Gladia can't reach 12hr anyway

[hard basin]

Originally mlynar was gnosis so that i can fir Jaye SA and swire 2, but i give them up to increase gold production by replacing him with eunec

[orchid bane]

So why you have to keep her so hard ?

[hard basin]

Yeah but i prolonges her with fia

[orchid bane]

Wait what is your fia target ?

[hard basin]

At first phase, technically none, but at phase 2 alaays gladiia

[orchid bane]

For non-cursed player their best fia target is always proviso Shamere Tequila no ?

[hard basin]

Im bad at staggered rotation

[orchid bane]

Gla is not that good compare to them

[orchid bane]

Basically fia them every 12hr

[queen flicker]

are these rotation good? sadly i don't have mlynar so greyy alter only works for 2 shifts. i decided to still do automation for 3 shifts just for convinience so the sub team can be properly shred across the other team facs. idk, what do yoy think? (i fia proviso, shamare, tequila)

that third automation shift without greyy is just like 90%, worse than bubble but

[orchid bane]

Also why mylar have to be for Gla. Lol

There are also 2 smiley face in the 1st one

[arctic prism]

looks good to me more or less
surely you have a better 3rd option than rope for hr tho?

[orchid bane]

Is this dream base ?

5 lv5 fac 2 lv3 tp ?

[queen flicker]

i could e1 gitano

[queen flicker]

i guess. 3 dorms only tho

[arctic prism]

er
maybe can read up on how hr% works in sheet
I forgot exact percentages but generally want to just use e2 6*s for that bc the star count and promotion level also adds %

[hard basin]

My mind set was each shift 24 hours

I think gonna change it to 1 main shift and backup shift during main shift recovery

[queen flicker]

my best option then is vigil 🫡

[fluid pollen]

E1 Vigil ah

[arctic prism]

[arctic prism]

yea just calc the number and who youd be willing to raise for it
realistically it's like the least important thing to promote for so lmao

[queen flicker]

btw should I buy goldenglow? it's only a 20% pp. lava alter or upcoming skybox are 20% too, but look at my sad caster rooster

[hard basin]

What is your suggestions for the 243 comp, i need advice.

[orchid bane]

Well . fia the big 3

[hard basin]

Btw here is my ops
https://www.krooster.com/u/veritas

[orchid bane]

2 smiley face don't help Gla much. Like 20 min more iirc

I just calculate it

14 min

Mlynar and m3 or Flame and Vivi only help her work for 14 min longer

So maybe just place her in the time you feel more comfortable

[hard basin]

Say, if main shift is swire, hoshi2, flametail, viviana, mlynar

Tp bibeak/shamare/tequila and proviso/vigil/archetto

Exp is vermeil/scene/pallas and pinus trio

Gold is bryo/thorn2/gravel and waaifu/aroma/minimalist

Pp is justice knight, mumu, and 20%.

What should i change

Should i kick justice knight for 20% drone

[orchid bane]

If you are like drone exp anyway then you don't have to

[hard basin]

I usually drone shamare team

[orchid bane]

JK is the same as 20% but some of your drone on exp

[hard basin]

So basically it's equal if i put drone on exp

[orchid bane]

Yes

[hard basin]

Alright, so for the ops, any that i should change?

[orchid bane]

About the drone thing. It is better to drone your TP with both Proviso and Tequila in it

Just take then out temporary put them in the same TP and drone

Proviso value is better than Shamere team

I know you might lack of gold doing so. Also you are having exp problem iirc

Drone exp is always cool if you are lack of them

[hard basin]

Wait why

Proviso skill didn't affect tequila

That useless isn't it

[orchid bane]

Proviso buffs 2 3 gold order
Tequila buffs 4 gold order

When use lv3 tp. There are always chance for all that order

2-gold proviso order is the best order in this game

They are just not good when in the same TP. About drone it is different story

[orchid bane]

What the game give me after 6 years

[weary aspen]

How do we use Fiammetta in base? Do I need to manually assign her in Dorm or can I put her there permanently?

[orchid bane]

Her skill work when she is entering the dorm

It works exactly like what it say

Swap morale with the last op enter dorm

You can empty the dorm 1st to avoid mis-swap

[weary aspen]

Can I put and lock her slot there and put someone after her?

[orchid bane]

No

[weary aspen]

Ah thanks, that's what I needed to know lol

[orchid bane]

Maybe but. Trust me. It is annoying doing that

Her position need to be changed in order to active her skill

Change position = re enter the dorm

[weary aspen]

Yeah that's unfortunate. I guess she can't be used with quick shift

[orchid bane]

If you lock 2 position and swap her it might work , but not helping at all

[hard basin]

So im trying on staggering in bib+sham+teq team

Bib and sham ramp up lose when they are taken out, that why bib is better put first

If it is different formation swap, like say

Formation 1 bib+sham+teq
Formation 2 bib+diamante+teq
And then i swap formation 1 with 2

Do bib lose her ramp up

Does it count as bib re enter TP, or it doesn't count if it's same placementm?

Because for the trio staggered, wouldn't it possible to just use fia on shamare and tequila only, while bibeak can be replaced with kafka or diamante

[craggy horizon]

Worth E2ing Swire Alter for her 2nd base skill?

[orchid bane]

What with 2nd rotation lol

[fluid pollen]

The standard is that Sham Teq + Prov are Fia’d.

[orchid bane]

Same place = not re enter

If I were you I would just use
1 bibeak sham teq
2 dia sham teq

Press the button when I need to swap bibeak and dia

Get sham or teq out manually

[orchid bane]

Yes. Possible

[orchid bane]

The team is Gnosis CC Jaye Swire2 SA

For a CC slot you have a 129% TP

Personal thought. They are bad.

Not certain about future improvement since SA2 is also bad

[hard basin]

What's wrong with it?

[orchid bane]

Bib + dia ?

What is that for ?

[hard basin]

It's just example

[orchid bane]

Okay

[hard basin]

No offense, maybe a little but all your comment sound very dismissive

[orchid bane]

Yea sure ramp is kept

[orchid bane]

Oh

Sorry bout that

Just not sure where

[hard basin]

Like you belittle the comp but you don't have support in mind. You did show advice and yet none show consideration

[orchid bane]

It is really hard to truly make a rotation for someone

[hard basin]

You question the reasoning but you didn't expand how or what would be better

I don't know, it just comes off like that when i read your advice

[orchid bane]

This is how I rotate my friend acc base

As you can see it is very simple

And have the report like that

Ofc it is 252

Mlynar with 4 smiley is is important cause this one still fia 4 target. Only mlynar + 4 smiley can keep proviso work for more than 48hr

[cloud tide]

i can only upgrade 7 what else counts as a non activity room??

am i supposed to upgrade to lvl 4 to be able to reach the rooms below?

[orchid bane]

Non-activity is basically every room not in the far right

Basically everything in your screen right now

Could you tell where you stuck ?. Like screenshot what it say ?

[cloud tide]

the red marker is 7 rooms

does that mean dormitory counts as a non activity room?

[orchid bane]

Yes. It should be

[jaunty notch]

check pinned Base build guide

[modern atlas]

so i need to work on right side and base slave, right?

[meager meadow]

can you elaborate what you mean by right side

im not sure if 5* selectors got proviso, but if they do, obtain her from that

this allows you to downgrade a trade post, which is more power for dorms, since proviso benefits a lot more from lower level trade posts

you can leave everything on right side at level 1 besides workshop

training room can be built as per your needs

but otherwise, you are spot on

[meager meadow]

the latter

[meager meadow]

yeah, since tailoring is more readily available, and the above is applied as well

i don't recommend kafka though, since she would require e2, and kafka's primary use is s1, which doesn't gain anything noteworthy from masteries or even skill levels, which makes promotion a nerf for her owing to DP cost

diamante and paprika are fair game though

[weak moon]

anniv selector does

[normal lava]

e2 kafka or e2 miss christine

[orchid bane]

.

Miss christine and Trago is for 101% exp fac that work for long time

101% is not a good number for today but well. They have high cap and longer working time

[hard basin]

Do you make it your self or is there planner for base comp like this?

[round lichen]

@hard basin They seem to be using a personal sheet, but pin link 5 has a premade you can fill out

[queen flicker]

correct 🫡

[hard basin]

Okay thx

[pale yoke]

wait wat a maint

rip 1 hour

[orchid bane]

Wth ?????

I am about to baseing

Oh they did announce this

[pale yoke]

3 event

wth

[orchid bane]

I know they want to make collab event match our Holiday but I can't prove it

[oak wedge]

If you're afk and not droning is proviso still better than a % operator?

[arctic prism]

3 event??

y tho

[arctic prism]

yes

even if she's sitting there alone in the tp with no other boosts she multiplies the % that the actual tp facility comes with by default (100%)

so her absolute minimum value (sitting alone in lv3 tp) is ~55%

[steady holly]

what's the default team with provisio

figure i've beaten around the bush long enough, let's optimize a thing or two

[steady holly]

and if there's a choice of default teams, what's the lazy "press autorotate, recieve LMD" one

[silent nova]

default for proviso is proviso and a high % on lvl 2 tp

if you don't have fia she can have 2/3 uptime on a staggered rotation which is doable with presets

[steady holly]

got fiametta, not built

next best?

[silent nova]

fia gets all her base skills at e0

[steady holly]

oh wait fiametta is morale stuff

[silent nova]

using her is a bit more work with prov but you get to have prov in tp2 100% of the itme

[steady holly]

wdym by "high %"

[silent nova]

basically anytime prov gets low just refresh her with fia and put her back in

any high prod%

[steady holly]

pick a name out of a hat

[silent nova]

vigil

[steady holly]

E0 ok?

[silent nova]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sec

no

just look at this sheet and go to tp and find the highest % op you own https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=301545366#gid=301545366

[steady holly]

now we're talkin'

[steady holly]

also do i actually want a lvl 2 tp for provisio over a lvl 3 for everyone else?

[silent nova]

if you'ore running 252 it's generally recommended t od otp2 since you win a factory level

esp since you have fia so prov is always in the tp2 anyways

[steady holly]

well theoretically yeah

there will probably be a lot of "wait provisio's not here" going on

okay think i've got some of it set up

thanks

[astral tiger]

what productivity is needed to sustain proviso droning?

using e2 vigil as her partner and don't have fia for full uptime

[rigid plume]

Just highest possible.

Vigil E2 is possibility.

Find another one and you're good from now on.

[astral tiger]

mb I meant highest gold productivity

to sustain droning proviso

[silent nova]

depends on how many drones you have

but for every one day of work she consumes 37.183099 gold bars

thats 480 drones which you're not hitting so it'll probably be llike

24.788733 bars

that sounds wrong

[astral tiger]

I'll see how it goes

just pulled weedy for base

bryo team + purestream and weedy should manage somewhat

[fluid pollen]

That does sound wrong

[silent nova]

no nvm thats right

my rotations calculator is wrong

[rigid plume]

Depends on how much gold you have.

[silent nova]

who wrote this sheet

LOL thats why

im so good at debugging

[rigid plume]

If you above 100 bars, you can work at red numbers.

[astral tiger]

tru

[rigid plume]

If less, then you just increase Gold production with same highest Prod% you can find.

In worst case possible, you can slow down Proviso, but as last resort.

[astral tiger]

not gonna go for that last resort at least

[rigid plume]

Mine 243 base and my team rn with Gold bars works with minus

I should lose 10 daily

But with droning for me, it's about 0,5-2 daily, lol

And I have 800

To actually monitoring that.

[astral tiger]

800 what

gold bars?

[rigid plume]

Bars

[astral tiger]

and here I thought I had a lot

[rigid plume]

I had 1500 long time ago

And then I E2d Proviso

[astral tiger]

crazy

[fluid pollen]

Is it just Prov?

[silent nova]

is what just prov

[fluid pollen]

Your calc

[silent nova]

oh no the bug also included teq cuz i hardcoded {2, 3, 4} as the gold consumption values

the 37 bars figure is correct though

but only if you put in 1440 drone minutes

which i doubt anyone has 1440 drone minutes since its 480 drones

[fluid pollen]

Does Prov really burn that little?

[silent nova]

well

when you're droning it doesn't take into account prod%

my prov gold bar consumption from her ust working is like 75 a day

[fluid pollen]

Aight that makes sense.

[silent nova]

one way to think about is is that for every 1 % of prod it is 1% more "work" time per time

so my mr.nothing provides +80% so that tp is performing 1.8 minutes of work per every actual minute, which means it performs 2592 work minutes a day

whereas drones (with like 340) accounts for 1020 work minutes

just her working is roughly 2.5x more time (=> 2.5x gold consumption vs drones)

[fluid pollen]

This is why you guys do the maths and I js look and see if resource is sustainable.

[silent nova]

i haven't been doing much riic math lately

my math has been diverted to aic battery edging math

[fluid pollen]

Ef?

[astral tiger]

doesn't the prompt annoy you?

[rigid plume]

Yep

[astral tiger]

or does it only show up once

[rigid plume]

Endfield

[silent nova]

oh i don't know i keep messing it up so i keep 0ing out on power

[rigid plume]

Thanks for Kyo making blueprint to not think too much about base stuff.

[astral tiger]

[silent nova]

it involves converting some decimal into binary

and then programming this lil gadget

[astral tiger]

[silent nova]

it IS that serious

[astral tiger]

not disagreeing

but that constant power prompt would annoy me so much

that's why not min maxing it

[silent nova]

i need my extra 0.3720495 batteries every 40 seconds

[astral tiger]

good luck

[valid storm]

So, is the Endfield base Turning complete?

[silent nova]

i was thinking about trying to make nand yesterday

you'd need ground on top of the 2 inputs but i think it might be possible

[valid storm]

I'll see if I can create a calculator

or something like that

[arctic prism]

wait this is lowkey genius

didnt play enough minecraft to think of doing smth like that

[queen flicker]

whats that?

[celest mason]

is it possible to use fiamm on 3 operator? like shamare , tequila and proviso but my proviso in level 2 trading post

[orchid bane]

There are 3 ways to solve this

1st use Mlynar , Chongyue, Wis

They will help proviso work for more than 36hr somehow

2nd cursed : take Proviso out, rest her for awhile and put her back in

3rd ignore it. Let her die for few hours

[orchid bane]

There are new Shamere skin

I am doom

[rigid plume]

You mean goon?

[orchid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-doctor-doom-im-doctor-doom-robert-downey-jr-avengers-doomsday-gif-8613429315092497105

[pale yoke]

[ebon hare]

And I'm Dom

[west tapir]

I might be rarted.
Put the entire exp comp into the gold factory for the entire day

[orchid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/family-toretto-dominic-gif-23895685

Thiz ?

[arctic prism]

a method to control the rate at which batteries are fed into the power banks so that you arent spending more batteries than you need
seemed like he was also using it to take advantage of the little power buffer you get when what you have isnt enough to power everything

or at least trying to use it to do that but if calcs are off you just end up with 0 power like he said was happening

[hazy bridge]

whats the best way to rotate a level 3 factory?

[sterile loom]

Should I be droning exp or gold when not droning proviso? She is draining my good reserve too fast and I cant keep up

[summer kernel]

Droning any of the three is equally fine. If youre running out of gold, feel free to drone the gold facs but just make sure you're not producing too much LMD vs EXP, depending on your needs

[summer kernel]

See pin2 link3.
The stagger method works if you use nonsynergistic operators. If you use teams of operators, you rotate the entire teams but the logic still applies

[summer kernel]

That's so cool. I wish I had the bandwidth for another gacha

[cinder lotus]

Hey new player here. Don't want to look at any fancy guides just yet.

Just a question. My first objective should be to get all these buildings to lv 3 right?

[hasty tiger]

It helps if they're the right buildings. Main objective when first starting is NOT over leveling your right side since you can't downgrade it

You can at least fix left side

[meager meadow]

replace one of the power plants with a factory, then yes except 1 trade post, that needs to be lvl2

new players shouldn't resort to 153, since they are gonna be in an LMD deficit

[cinder lotus]

Thank You both.

[stoic spoke]

Show zoomed out base (right side levels)

[orchid bane]

Here is my zoom out base

[stoic spoke]

tiny PPs

[rigid plume]

[fleet wolf]

theres already a setup for this btw

[rigid plume]

It's indeed inefficient

If you want LMD big and fast, look at IS.

Sanity wise you wanna waste on resources you cannot (or hardly) get it elsewhere.

So the mats, chips and Red Certs.

[astral tiger]

just wait it out

[rigid plume]

I mean, if any of this wasn't your goal, then sure, go ahead, lol.

But we still stands that is better you to slow down your money throw.

[fleet wolf]

https://dige.aunly.cn/h?lang=en
from bili ofc,
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1VrfSByEBo
belt convergers are read from left to right
bridge for each 1 of binary digit order, keep converger as is for 0 of the binaries

the control ports route back to depot
battery has to come from depot not packaging unit
and stash into storage mode

mb for the ppl talking

forgor to send the example img, theres ppl talking rn so just ping back ig

[hearty sluice]

Is this the right way for the base?

[silent nova]

i mean yeah

its just a binary splitter

[hearty sluice]

Anything not bricked in the right side right?

[wise shale]

It's the 2-5-2 setup without bricking the base. You can build the other things on the right side, but DON'T upgrade the Reception Room and Office!

[next zenith]

hey, whats should i max first? I building the 252 base

[hearty sluice]

Alright, and how do I set up the preset?

[wise shale]

This is what the 252 base can become, I can remove a dorm to get all Factories at Rank 3.

[wise shale]

I never understood the preset combination due to the lack of the correct operators, but you can always check #bot-spam

[hearty sluice]

You use the stagger method, as I can read from the bot?

[meager meadow]

don't fuss over the order that much, it's more important to remember what NOT to do

don't upgrade the office and reception room, and don't build the training room. these are your right side buildings and these cannot be downgraded once upgraded, so it's a perma waste of power if you upgrade something with minuscule returns. generally, you only end up with max workshop (duh) and max training room later on

make sure to leave 1 trade post at level 2 for proviso if you have her or you have a voucher that has her in its pool; her skill benefits from "worse" trade posts

Now then, based off the pic, i think get all possible dorms up first (they can stay lvl 1, its fine)
get all facs to level 2
get a tp to level 3
then get your facs level 3 one by one until you can't
upgrade power plants when you face power shortsge

you are doing fine so far 🤩

[next zenith]

Thank you very much

[wise shale]

Yes I do this, but I never knew it was called stagger methode. The reason why I do this is to keep my operator rotations optimal, since you can't put all +30 tired operators in the dorms with a maximum capacity of 20.

[inner ocean]

What's IS?
You mean Integrated Strategies? I've level capped them all. And any extra content you can think of, yeah just assume I've done them all.

I mean I'm also doing CE-6 due to EXP/LMD imbalances due to modules actually using a ton of cash and I raise every operator as much as I can.

and no issues in stockpiling gold bars either. I'm actually about to transition back to 3 Gold once I hit 100 gold bars

The waiting game hasn't helped either

There's just resource imbalance and you use more LMD than you use EXP, especially when you raise every operator and module most of them

[arctic prism]

btw how many nodules are you guys coming out of the event with
feel like i wasted some sanity bc of irl responsibilities and endfield so just curious

[wind otter]

||brace for true base update||

[wind otter]

284

[wind otter]

you can go to friends' bases in Endifeld and give a friend/receive from a friend a boost to increase morale of an op for like 30 something %, imagine we getting that
reminds me of my take about base kitchen where you could cook something to restore a bit of morale for an operator

[orchid bane]

That is too many I think ?

I am done with this amount

[arctic prism]

ah ok thats about the same as where im at

[wind otter]

too many for what? promoting all 6 stars coming?

86 would last me for like 4 months

friend morale boosting Fiammetta™

[orchid bane]

Well will have nodule at least every 6 month

And I also count my tier 4 and tier 5 there

[wind otter]

haven't check the upcming mats, is this official or are you speculating?

[orchid bane]

I posted my pic here

[orchid bane]

Here

I already take more than what I want to upgrade

[wind otter]

are you inventing HG mat schedule or what?

@arctic prism are you America/Europe or Asia server

[orchid bane]

Next event materials is terrible

Idk what should I do

T2 rock is with aketon, the worst T2

About T3 I just need some Fiber

[wind otter]

I'm kinda low on PolyPacks so I guess I will just farm a bit of every mat, to keep them at top, less of Salt because that mat I don't know what the hell is going on with it, you never need to farm it

[orchid bane]

I would just go for 50 fiber 1st, and then go for T2 rock if store unclear

[wind otter]

132 fiber, will try to get that to 200

[fluid pollen]

Have like 20 poly

lol

[wind otter]

94 poly pack and I'm still crafting for upcoming ops

[wind otter]

you scraping the bottom of the barrel

[orchid bane]

You guys have poly problem?

[wind otter]

red knees deep into polyamory

[fluid pollen]

Don’t got them stocks of anything fr

Red has everything but rocks

[wind otter]

rock bottom

[orchid bane]

And devices

[wind otter]

don't tell me you blew them devices on shards

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

dw, we are still two chapters away from hg introducing new mats that use devices

[orchid bane]

I want more gel, rock T3,

And cyclicene

Don't have many cyclicene although I invested in it the last Pepe rerun

[wind otter]

||had 2,000 but you know, had to craft||

[orchid bane]

Gimme

[wind otter]

go to my base, assist on my workshop and you will receive bonus cube drops

[orchid bane]

[orchid bane]

Have 265 device. Still ok with that

[wind otter]

you should have had the same amount of rock I do since you're always farming cubes, if you don't that just means you burned them all already

[arctic prism]

na/eu

[wind otter]

dude, add me,

[arctic prism]

yeye

[orchid bane]

Look at the 2nd pic

[orchid bane]

.

[wind otter]

everyone here is Asia so I can't add anyone lol

[arctic prism]

yea lmao

[orchid bane]

Wdym. You guys are not asia ?

[wind otter]

cluster conversions

[orchid bane]

[arctic prism]

i think i sent my friend code here at some point can dig it out and add it, i'll accept when i get home

or just send yours and i'll add it later

[wind otter]

someone get red a world map, let him know there are lands beyond the sea

[orchid bane]

[pale yoke]

[hearty sluice]

Who to pair proviso with?

[astral tiger]

highest % provider u have

[hearty sluice]

Got it, will melantha work?

[astral tiger]

u don't have any 30%?

isn't 2* yato 30%, just level her

yeah she is

nvm she doesn't need to be levelled for the 30%

[hearty sluice]

I have but they're resting, I'll swap with one of them when their mood up

[astral tiger]

ah

[astral tiger]

well search for some other 30% then

for the meantime ig just put melantha if she's your highest

[hearty sluice]

Got it. And keep that trading post lv2, right?

[astral tiger]

yep

if your base is 252

for 243, just keep it lvl 3

[hearty sluice]

This one

[astral tiger]

yeah then keep proviso tp at lvl 2

[hearty sluice]

Got it

[queen flicker]

i made some slight changes. i would like to get goldenglow with certs but i think these are better used for flametail/fartooth, mainly because they are kernel. my next main goals are getting pinus and mlynar. what do you think

[summer kernel]

Oops spent all my pots on jars. May not have enough sanity to finish Collab store

[queen flicker]

even with only flametail, i can do wild mane + ashlock + feater and thats already better than my fac 2 right

[summer kernel]

Are these 12 hr rots? GG is pretty bad ROI simply for base purposes so it's definitely better to build PS/Knights if you are going for the full set

[queen flicker]

yes 12h. and i could get gg off banner when pulling upcoming new banners. so i think certs priority should be flametail

[orchid bane]

Flame make the OP 35%, there are 4 35% exp atm

You don't have trago ?

[queen flicker]

yes, he is with vermeil team

[orchid bane]

Oh

[queen flicker]

crownslayer rerun soon right

[orchid bane]

Yea pretty soon

[queen flicker]

and conviction too

[orchid bane]

[summer kernel]

Not sure if this is a morale breakpoint but M3+Amiya is a worse team than Hoshi + Swire so you should stagger Delphine and Hoshi+Swire.

[orchid bane]

But like 3 month, more or less

[queen flicker]

then flametail alone does nothing. would have to get viviana too

[summer kernel]

Red, did you calc the SS shop numbers? I want to know if I can use my last pot on jars or I already messed up by using next week's pots

[queen flicker]

i think hoshi and swire can work for another 1 or 2 extra shifts before running out of morale. so you mean extending their shifts right? i already try to do that in game, but in the sheet for simplicity i just show 4 shifts

is that what you mean?

[summer kernel]

I meant you could possibly get one more shift if you had the 3 alts with Hoshi instead of M3 because Hoshi is the better team to make use of the 3alts -CC MD . Not sure about the breakpoints though

[orchid bane]

No I don't but lately f2p can always clear the store. Just have to skip the mod 2 3 and maybe parts

[summer kernel]

I think SS is going to be close bc double welfare pots

[orchid bane]

Oh

[summer kernel]

I think collabs give one more 120pot on day 1 and that's it so not a lot more income but 280 * 5 more event currency needed lol.

Too hungry for jars, didn't think it through.

[orchid bane]

Oh wait

Haven't calculate annihilation

So you need 362 sanity per day on average

[summer kernel]

It's over 😭

Does monthly even have enough? Ive been demotivated so I havent topped off but I guess I gotta 💳

[orchid bane]

Maybe I should just skip it