was planning to since i was thinking of making the 3rd fiametta refresh proviso instead and wanted to build kafka anyway
#r-i-i-c
spark sapphire
haughty belfry
arctic prism
?? what do you mean
haughty belfry
is he doing smt wrong?
arctic prism
oh hmm yeah I see the problem now
yea that's weird seems like it should have completed but didnt
unless he put zuole in after he started training which he says he didnt i dont have any good answer for that lol
haughty belfry
yea so weird, my guess is that somehow windscoot doesn't count 
snow pivot
Damn whats your rotation? These are crazy numbers. 243?
wind otter
base is cool n' stuff
little saffron
I realised what peak @valid storm is filming here
The only Sui siblings story I've read
valid storm
I realised what peak <@493356740952326155> is filming here
not filming, that's a theatre
can't you see the red curtain?
it's a stormy scene
where a ship just sank
little saffron
not filming, that's a theatre
I thought it was like a green screen
valid storm
I thought it was like a green screen
we have a green screen like thing already
wind otter
now THIS is what I call event rewards
???
wind otter
orchid bane
pale yoke
now THIS is what I call event rewards
what event is this?
wind otter
what event is this?
I forgot, let me review
wind otter
Longmen???
ai being ai
wind otter
what event is this?
and no, it's not ave mujica
no wait, it is ave mujica 
do daily tasks sort of event like the one we have right now during ave mujica @pale yoke
winged hollow
can I do cursed pozy like shamare but kirara in the most of the time when it about to collect i switch teq back in?
orchid bane
that is what we call cursing
if you already do that, then put both Teq and Proviso in
winged hollow
I can only do that in my day off
orchid bane
Tbh don't think too much about it
Just shamere team and your best % with Proviso in the other side
And you don't have to use pozy team everyday
winged hollow
I only use pozy when I am low in gold and want to make a quick buck with AO
normal lava
Lmk if theres some notable ops I can upgrade for base
https://www.krooster.com/u/venti_latte
round lichen
@normal lava Shamare and Tequila are good, otherwise just check the noob tab in pin link 4
arctic prism
also in a week or two we should get a 5* selector for anniversary; if there arent any 5*s you want to pick for other reasons (gameplay, design, etc) could pick up proviso from there and promote her for base
also regarding shamare/tequila ideally you'd also want to grab one of diamante, bibeak, paprika, kafka) from their respective shops or gacha and use them together
later on ideally you want two but you dont have fiametta so you just need one of the four
can also consider promoting morgan and delphine for glasgow - would be delphine in cc + morgan and siege in tp (siege doesnt need promotion)
lower priority than the other suggestions
quick adder
Does delphine have to be raised for glasgow tp team?
arctic prism
iirc yeah
oblique swan
now THIS is what I call event rewards
whats this
wind otter
instant promotion and max level for a 4 and a 5 star
wind otter
it's ok to regret your life choices 
fluid pollen
True. 
wind otter
there's the new 4 star agent coming though, more 4 stars will come eventually
wind otter
what a time to be alive
arctic prism
The tickets will outpace the no of 4* ops.
same lol
wind otter
I still have a bunch of 4 stars to promote, took my sweet time to start doing it and now the instant promo packs are rolling in
fluid pollen
wind otter
jaunty notch
this is why you prefarm for CN in an EN account
wind otter
pale yoke
winged hollow
can teq being cursing?
pale yoke
yes
winged hollow
oh nice
orchid bane
If you curse teq, Prov should definitely be there too
wind otter
not necessarily
orchid bane
If you curse teq you have at most 85%
Teq and prov is kinda close so just put them both in
That is not gonna waste you any time
winged hollow
no actually I asked because I fucked up his schedule so now I will put him in the dorm
wind otter
That is not gonna waste you any time
not necessarily because you may not have Proviso
orchid bane
orchid bane
not necessarily because you may not have Proviso <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
I did that when prov not come out yet
wind otter
winged hollow
after switch morgan siege replace lemon exu the over lmd is better
the trade off is I abandon pinus or at least vivi
or still using pinus but manual replace mlynar and use trag in between
for every 2 days
keen gale
Does proviso only need trading post lvl 2 and not level 3? Does she want to be paired with pozy or teq or shamere or just any high percentage?
silent nova
Just high% and in tp2
rigid plume
Does proviso only need trading post lvl 2 and not level 3? Does she want to be p...
Yes. That way putting in Lv2 is triggering her passive every single time with high chance of 3-Gold, which make her do 5-Gold instead. For a spare level for Factory.
And you need to pair high OrderAcq+. And NEVER pair with Tequila. Like, really never.
round lichen
Happy New Year from the Eastern US, RIICtizens
silent nova
it's actually better for her to proc on a 2 gold over a 3 gold
but tp 2 is better on account of having another slot to actually provide prod%
astral tiger
Happy New Year from the Eastern US, RIICtizens
Happy new year to you too
astral tiger
it's actually better for her to proc on a 2 gold over a 3 gold
why is that the case?
for faster orders?
astral tiger
I see
silent nova
this is also why pairing prov up with any of the tailorings is bad
meager meadow
Happy New Year from the Eastern US, RIICtizens
happy new year dude
meager meadow
Does proviso only need trading post lvl 2 and not level 3? Does she want to be p...
level 2 if running 2 power plant setups, and yes high % units are ideal
pale yoke
🤓 calculated?
meager meadow
you might be the first active person here who actually uses his bars to the fullest
:nodding:
winged hollow
too low
arctic prism
Happy New Year from the Eastern US, RIICtizens
Yup
Im 2 hrs late for my timezone but happy new year from western US too lol
silent nova
since when did we have that skin
rare galleon
since when did we have that skin
You must buy it haha.
It's literally Rise from Ember pack same like Exu skin from anime pack.
silent nova
oh sux
pale yoke
you can claim it in last year 
orchid bane
NO ?
I bought nodule last year
Every month since it started selling
I wonder can they fix it tbh
wind orbit
i mean the rport
orchid bane
Maybe there are already a moron that going to 3rd floor
novel pier
Why is this only 102%? Shouldn’t it be way higher?
Lemuen gives 20% and then 25% per exusiai so 20 + 25 + 25, then exu alter gives 15% and normal exu gives 35%
So shouldn’t it be 120%?
Her skill description includes both exusiai so it should work right? Is it a bug or does only 1 counts.
silent nova
it only counts one exu max
novel pier
Has it always been like that. I could have sworn it work differently before
silent nova
im guessing its always been like that based off the wording
novel pier
Maybe ur right. I never used this combo so I can’t confirm before since I was using 153 until recently. I was just basing off of what I saw on the doc
silent nova
i think that sheet means that she would accept either exu
it sorta implies that with the whole "its better to pair her with the original exu"
since if it wasn't capped at one exu then its not really a question of which exu is better; just use both
orchid bane
Exusiai faction in base: PL and Exusiai
Exusiai the new covenant faction in base: Alter and Exusiai
astral tiger
better off using ambriel, will give more %
silent nova
i wonder
novel pier
Isn’t ambriel just a flat 30%? That kinda sucks nowadays
astral tiger
exu alter buff doesn't trigger for exu
for ambriel it does
45 + 30 + 30 > 45 + 15 + 35
orchid bane
better off using ambriel, will give more %
If you use original exu. That makes 117% you know ?
novel pier
I think I can do Lemuen + Exu (normal) + snowsaint.
orchid bane
I think I can do Lemuen + Exu (normal) + snowsaint.
You really don't have any 40% ???
These day ?
novel pier
I’m missing a 40% now since i have cheeto and vigil locked up already in another combo
orchid bane
Proviso ?
astral tiger
If you use original exu. That makes 117% you know ?
I literally explained above 😭
novel pier
Yeah, with proviso
astral tiger
and that is not 117
novel pier
I use them when my Mr.nothing and eben dies
orchid bane
and that is not 117
I mean Ambriel lemu exu1
novel pier
You really don't have any 40% ???
I kinda wanna build underflow but I think I’m just going to wait for the new upcoming +40% unit in hoshi banner
silent nova
there's a 40% in hoshi banner ???
astral tiger
kichisei
silent nova
ohhhhh the baddie
orchid bane
Basically exu2 skill is useless, unless there will be new OP specifically call her name and not exu1, or else she just gonna be a 30% in 2025
astral tiger
😔
winged hollow
not only 40% but 40% for any setup
wind otter
Imagine I was going to report and saw this
un-fucking-real
wind otter
<@871381696321306645>
I'd be surprised if they do emergency maint for the missing mats, they would rather any outcome as long as they don't give people all those 200 orundum
orchid bane
What I believe will happen here is they are not going to fix this
Just leave the store like that till next month
wind otter
exactly
orchid bane
C'mon Yostar, prove me wrong
wind otter
I think they gave up at some point. Seems like they decided after so many mistakes that the best course of action is to stay silent and not engage the community. I still remember the whole notice they put out after the missing EN voices about them opening communication channels every month and then they didn't open anything.
orchid bane
What EN voice are missing ?, there are now new year greeting for Yato2 noir2, EN, but that is somehow understandable
wind otter
months ago, with the Arturia and FedEx live2ds not having EN voices
wind otter
the thing is that when they addressed that whole thing they said something about opening communication channels with the whole community but that was just talking, they didn't open anything lol
orchid bane
wind otter
I wonder if I can find the original statement
orchid bane
I remember they were having some problem with EN voice actors laws back then so I won't be too harsh with them on this one
But the Path of life event title
wind otter
found it
orchid bane
wind otter
I remember they were having some problem with EN voice actors laws back then so ...
I remember this argument, I think the counter-argument was that someone contacted an EN VA and asked her about why she hadn't done the additional voiceliunes for the operator and she said Yostar had not even reached out to her.
rare galleon
I remember this argument, I think the counter-argument was that someone contacte...
Ok, this is plain lazy.
orchid bane
But Idk. I think there were something like EN voice actors strike that somehow they feel pointless to contact them
at the time
orchid bane
months ago, with the Arturia and FedEx live2ds not having EN voices
Also , I didn't buy those skins then cause ... poverty and that already do me good since there are new limited fex ed skin, I still use fex ex now, virtu skin already rerun . I think that skin is nice but still not buying it, maybe there will be another good skin later
Probably that is one of the reasons I don't care if they are missing EN voice
wind otter
I use JP voicelines so none of that affects me, but the broader situation was several issues that were already brewing back then with Yostar. FedEx skin sound effects sound like he is squeezing a a squeaking plushie when he shoots
orchid bane
Oh yeah now I use EN voice, not that I think JP or others are bad or something, it just that is the only language I can hear some
But the EN voice for Shu and Mumu is best one for me
bright root
what is the max level each room can go up to?
winged hollow
5
wind otter
what is the max level each room can go up to?
Control Center + Dormitories = 5
the rest = 3
bright root
Control Center + Dormitories = 5
the rest = 3
Do 4 and 5 use different mats then the 3rd level?
wind otter
Do 4 and 5 use different mats then the 3rd level?
there is an increase in rarity per level yes, reinforced is the last building material, dorms at lvl 3 go from concrete to reinforced, control center at lvl 3 goes from light to concrete to reinforced
pale yoke
i just recieved 10 clue 3 lmao
valid storm
found it
technically #1211608727103340616 covers that here, but other spaces?
wind otter
technically <#1211608727103340616> covers that here, but other spaces?
<:Anjulau...
doesn't issues say that the section is for players to help each other, when you start a new topic? I'm sure issues existed before that notice
pale yoke
the real nodule is the friend we made along the way
valid storm
doesn't issues say that the section is for players to help each other, when you ...
No, you have to check if someone else has already opened one with the same problem before, and check #tech-support first if it's a technical issue, because game not working is usually a client side thing
and it's about raising awareness regarding bugs
wind otter
this reads as work it out among yourselves
valid storm
I can assure you that Yostar reads the #1211608727103340616 and #1211614253354852362 threads
wind otter
I can bet they do, but it seems they don't want to be beholden to the community by admitting they knew something but didn't fix it, which may explain the framing of guidelines. If they admit that they know of some issue, then they can't feign they didn't know of a certain issue and can't turn a blind eye if they want to, like when they refuse to do an extra maint for whatever reason, like when they messed up Path of Life text art and didn't bother to fix it. This may be the best course of action for them as a company as long as the community doesn't revolt for any serious issue, but they certainly aren't having that transparent and engaged communication with the community they promised in the statement they did months ago. If you are correct then they can't even say: "We are reading your issues here" in the issues section, which is just hilarious.
valid storm
True, they still lack some transparency
and I can tell that in many times they don't feel like doing maints to fix issues, like with the Path of Life text, because it's too minor
what I wanna know is why there wasn't a pre-release check/review, that could have fixed 90% of these issues
wind otter
yes, Yostar's main problem right now seems to be quality control ||and not delivering key features from the CN side of things||
if there is no pc client announcement during anniversary I will pronounce the thing dead for global, I'll even take the time of death
valid storm
if there is no pc client announcement during anniversary I will pronounce the th...
that's when you should start protesting to give the publishing rights to Gryphline
wind otter
wonder if that would be better
wind otter
maybe
valid storm
I'm still waiting for the pull history
wind otter
that's dedication
orchid bane
Only have 3 clue and a clue exchange for tomorrow
See if the game want to kill me then
orchid bane
I can bet they do, but it seems they don't want to be beholden to the community ...
I think about the Nodule, they can just give everyone 10 of them and fix it by next month
That is the easy way to solve it
Oh wait there are also module block in gold cert shop
Just 4 more of that should be fine
pale yoke
Oh wait there are also module block in gold cert shop
average whale behavior buying module from gold cert
final mulch
Downgrading a TP to lvl 2 is only recommended for XX2 setups like 252/342, as they can utilize the spare power for another FAC level. DOWNGRADING TPS IS NOT ADVISED for XX3 setups like 243/333; using 2-man teams is optimal in these setups.
what's the order of the facilities? what does the first, second, and third x represent?
orchid bane
Trading post
Factory
Power Plant
orchid bane
If I rich , why no money ?
valid storm
If I rich , why no money ?
'cus you spend it
valid storm
you don't have to pay those back with your money. You could just take out a new loan and use it to pay back the old ones
wind otter
I think about the Nodule, they can just give everyone 10 of them and fix it by n...
red you're not new, why do you pretend to be new? like you don't know yostar already, 10 min maint and 200 orundum begrudgingly given
sounds like you need exactly 10 nodules for Mlynar module or something
orchid bane
red you're not new, why do you pretend to be new? like you don't know yostar alr...
The reason I don't think they will do that is there might be some
-# Morons
Who already clear the 2nd floor
wind otter
average whale behavior buying module from gold cert
I would buy those gold certs modules if I could but full f2p player here.
wind otter
Who already clear the 2nd floor
interesting... maybe. Counter-argument: Yostar dgaf Path of Life for a whole version duration with no fix
orchid bane
Yea. It might be troublesome to fix that so If I am yostar, just give everyone 10 nodule (and also 4 module block ) . That is not gonna break the game or anything
And will be fixing it by next month
wind otter
I guess we'll find out in some hrs since they come back on the third
wind otter
And will be fixing it by next month
they ought to fix it with the next update that who knows, may come soon, but not too soon because Contingency Contract could coincide with the launch of Endfield if they do, and Yostar would not be capable of committing such an act of atrocity like that, for sure 
orchid bane
Their apologize will be something like this
wind otter
oh, at least they addressed it, that's something
wind otter
Well . but tbh I think they will just fix it next month
what about the gold modules, they would be leaving those who buy them hanging if they don't fix that this month
orchid bane
"They won't do anything this month" is what I meant
No nodule, no gold cert module
Tee hee
rose knoll
wind otter
pale yoke
what about the gold modules, they would be leaving those who buy them hanging if...
Don't forget about the top op too, have not seen it this whole year
They have so much to fix
orchid bane
Don't forget about the top op too, have not seen it this whole year
We are just 2 days in this year
Relax
pale yoke
I would buy those gold certs modules if I could but full f2p player here.
Us f2p stick together
wind otter
Don't forget about the top op too, have not seen it this whole year
have you tried recruiting harder?
pale yoke
We are just 2 days in this year
Oh you complain about the nodule and module block is fine but I can't complain about top op tag now? What is this racism?
pale yoke
true true
pale yoke
Still no top ops smh my head
pale yoke
Literally the same,after the monthly reset they really screw things up
wind otter
2 days in
Yostar located in China, so it's already 3 days in, get your math straight buddy
pale yoke
Red still living in the past
wind otter
pale yoke
Forever in limbo
wind otter
orchid bane
Ye I got that sometime
It is like you lose some more LMD but get some more parts
Fine by me, I lack parts
winged hollow
I rather use skill book less suck than this sucker
orchid bane
The mat is free
They don't even cost LMD
The point is always stacking causality for 9CD
Both books and carbon stuffs are given to you free daily
So the right answer is always use both
You don't have enough to feed 9CD anyway, and sanity go to CA-5 is kinda waste
pale yoke
You don't have enough to feed 9CD anyway, and sanity go to CA-5 is kinda waste
what is a CA5, is that a whale thing?
orchid bane
Yea it is my boi
pallid isle
Depends on stage In the game
And what your goals are
In fairness I am "rushing" for certain specific masteries
But it takes a lot longer to get skill books at my stage then the cash or exp I need to finish topping off an operator
orchid bane
You don't have enough to feed 9CD anyway, and sanity go to CA-5 is kinda waste
Yea it is just I am not making myself clear here, farming CA-5 more than what you need only for 9CD fodder is a waste
I haven't done CA-5 for really really long time but the books from credit store and other source are enough
Always m3 all the OP I want to use in IS
rigid plume
Can Titi be Pepe partner?
We need to check skillset first, but according to her having Sleep gimmick...
PROBABLY WORST COMPANION IMAGINABLE
You would better off using Blemishine that way.
orchid bane
Ye duh, ofc I am talking bout base stuff
Pepe partner has been a meme around here. And we just have literally pepe best friend debut
summer kernel
Can Titi be Pepe partner?
My bet is pepe partner but undercooked and not worth using
Unless I'm mistaken, pepe isn't even good if Titi doubled her speed for special orders
pallid isle
What's titi skill
spare pivot
The base stuff
fluid pollen
spark sapphire
does trust gain stack/add up when you put the same operator in both an assistant slot and an activity room slot?
or does it waste one of them
rigid plume
does trust gain stack/add up when you put the same operator in both an assistant...
Adds.
It really boosting up Trust gain fr.
silent nova
they made this l2d
ts so boring
pale yoke
The artist name is ask?
silent nova
lamest skin oat
orchid bane
Gonna see its animation later
Every Ask's works still good so far
All the Surtr arts and ente
orchid bane
now that's a crime
But yea blaze should have a L2D skin
Such an important lore character
Now stuck with 3 18 Po skin
Wrys's Blez
rigid plume
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315228979841466429/1393918452347043900/L...
At least she has a bike
Cool beer gato
Supremacy
orchid bane
That remind me of ch'en1 2nd skin
How can ch'en put on a helmet without any holes on it
rare galleon
How can ch'en put on a helmet without any holes on it
Nah, there is hole definitely.
fluid pollen
Is just weird they release a blaze skin instead of just waiting for Sui event tho.
orchid bane
Nah it is not
The non-limited OP in limited banner skin don't have to be in the same event as the limited one
There are logos
Naran
Viviana
So many
fluid pollen
Association anw, and it’s close
Could’ve put smth else up 
Idt the others have connecting events.
Maybe clothing style just doesn’t match
next hill
hello, I don't think it matter which factory I level up to level 3 of those two, right? And what should my ressource repartition be? 3 factories pure gold and 2 for exp?
rigid plume
hello, I don't think it matter which factory I level up to level 3 of those two,...
Yes.
Normally you want 3 EXP and 2 Gold. If low on gold, switch to 2-3 temporary.
next hill
Yes.
Normally you want 3 EXP and 2 Gold. If low on gold, switch to 2-3 temporary...
okay thanks
the level 2 factory should be producing exp right
fresh seal
Why did I get a 4 gold order on a level 2 tp?
orchid bane
That is 2+2 proviso gold order
There are her Icon up there
Oh
You are using E0 Prov
So that is 3+1
The 1st one is 2+1
fresh seal
You are using E0 Prov
sadly
fresh seal
The 1st one is 2+1
so there's no problem?
orchid bane
Yea
You should understand her skill tho
She buff 2 gold and 3 gold order make it spend more gold
So your trading make LMD really fast
E2 her if you can
fresh seal
i see, thanks
fresh seal
E2 her if you can
cinema, thanks dude
wind otter
gimmie that titi
pale yoke
Me who skipped that storyline- she looks important 
orchid bane
Nah she is not
Maybe I have bad memory, I read that story, all I have left is
She is in charge of a museum
She is Pepe best friend
pale yoke
so you saying gato is not important to you? gasp
orchid bane
What ?
wind otter
Nah she is not
"friends are not important" - Red, 2026
wind otter
seems like abstract joking is contagious
round dock
so the newest base meta op is Nasti?
simple violet
Since I got Ebenholz recently, is it worth trying to make the Rosmontis team work? I don’t have Dusk or Chongyue.
wind otter
so the newest base meta op is Nasti?
pretty much
wind otter
Since I got Ebenholz recently, is it worth trying to make the Rosmontis team wor...
No Dusk in CC, Ebenholz and Rosmontis numbers, Ling at < 12 morale
Chongyue has no bearing in Perception Information / Soundless Resonance team beyond slowing morale consumption
simple violet
No Dusk in CC, Ebenholz and Rosmontis numbers, Ling at < 12 morale
Thanks for checking that! And Dusk just adds
+10? I guess in general. I’m just trying to figure out the optimal CC rotation. So many options.
wind otter
Thanks for checking that! And Dusk just adds
+10? I guess in general. I’m just ...
Rosmo reaches a minum of 84% with Iris and Czerny in a lvl 1 dorm, if the dorm has higher levels then Rosmo reaches higher. 82% if no Iris and Czerny.
jaunty notch
wdym you're broke?
wind otter
tbf all the money she produces you take
keen gale
Should this be better?
frank cipher
Yes, low in gold need at least 100 gold to sustain lmd or swap exp/gold make average exp low abit
steep urchin
Hi, anyone have a figure of productivity conversion from drones recovery increase ?
orchid bane
2% drone is close to 1% fac or TP
steep urchin
2% drone is close to 1% fac or TP
thank you a lot
orchid bane
silent nova
1% FAC and dependent on tp setup but prov is 1.8% tp1
west tapir
Oh shiii
pale yoke
@fluid pollen im pretty sure the game hates you
i refreshed over 40 time couldn't find your ascalon nor kroos
my timer at 30 sec each refresh now
1 min
Lmao
The freaking qol couldn't come faster
pale yoke
i was refreshing for ascalon for the first 30+ times
couldn't find her that's why i go to sniper
i got to see many ascalon even non friend
just not yours
fluid pollen
pale yoke
love you 3000
wind otter
AI knows everything
prisma grotto
67
winged hollow
AI knows everything
this is prove they read user data
wind otter
Same search with Microsoft Edge which I've only used to download other browsers when I built this PC, other picture Incognito tab with Firefox. I will try LibreWolf in another PC in some hours and see what happens.
slim yarrow
I see a lot of 3-person FAC combos, but where are the 2-person combos (operator)? I'm assuming Weedy+Purestream is good (in my 252 case, it's only 70% tho). But no idea of anything beyond that.
jaunty notch
I see a lot of 3-person FAC combos, but where are the 2-person combos (operator)...
most of the time, 2-man combos are just the 3-man combos without the weakest piece
for example in pin link 4, prod is listed for each member so that it gives flexibility to 2-man options
aside from a few exceptions like vermeil team, every 3-man team can be turned into a 2-man
slim yarrow
aside from a few exceptions like vermeil team, every 3-man team can be turned in...
fair enough. But in general, I shouldn't put Dorothy, Mizuki and Bubble in 2 Fac teams right?
jaunty notch
they're actually the more popular 2-man candidates
dorothy silence alter or a rhine tech, mizuki and standard, bubble vulcan
all very good 2-man teams
slim yarrow
all very good 2-man teams
huh? But aren't we wasting their skills since they want more tech in their FAC?
summer kernel
huh? But aren't we wasting their skills since they want more tech in their FAC?
Their "per-operator" productivity is a lot higher without the weakest member so it is a more competitive team for a 2 slot restriction. Rhine as a 3-man team is usually pretty weak, but don't remember if Nasti changes things.
jaunty notch
huh? But aren't we wasting their skills since they want more tech in their FAC?
ofc, if you can put them in a lv3 fac you should. But in the case where even the full team has less % than another 3-man team, they will be demoted to work on lv2 facs
in a sense, each of them is a 30%
it doesn't really compound that much
your question makes sense only if for example you have doro and 2 rhine techs
and you put doro + rhine in a lv2 fac then another one somewhere else
that's wasting 5%, but again if another 3-man team absolutely needs that fac, dorothy can be in a lv2
slim yarrow
that's wasting 5%, but again if another 3-man team absolutely needs that fac, do...
ah, so basically, we're only wasting 5% which isn't really much, so it's ok
jaunty notch
that 5% is ONLY if you are using that 3rd rhine tech member
slim yarrow
I think I'll make a list of available 3-man teams and go from top to bottom.
2 teams per fac is fine right?
jaunty notch
if you only have 2 slots left then there'd be no 5% anymore
you can look at sample rotations in INFO
the sheet also lists teams from best to worst in a way
slim yarrow
you can look at sample rotations in INFO
btw, I used to keep some ops in facs, while removing others for optimal rotations, but stopped doing that after the auto feature. Is it worth trying to automate those step, when we get only 3 team sets?
jaunty notch
staggering?
slim yarrow
Not sure what the term is, but it makes them go to dorms at different times
jaunty notch
it's hard for 1 op at a time since you need 4 presets, but if you're staggering teams you only need 2
slim yarrow
I hope we get more presets, honestly. Alright, I think I know what to do now. tyvm!
frank cipher
done 4 day + amiya (12h/24h log in)
12h sham/teq/bib 23/25.5/25/28
avg 25.4 : 138% (same)
24h sham/teq/bib 21/21.5/23.5/24
avg 22.5 :110%
24h sham/teq/myrtle 24.5/23.5/24.5/23.5
avg 24 :126% (same)
Optima calc it's Lmd/Day : Avg(include ramp up)
pretty much accurate rng calc
👌 now let run AO forever
jaunty notch
smh why don't you have full ops and 6 digit rundums?
frank cipher
no n yes
molten silo
243 base viable?
jaunty notch
ok, but 252 better production wise
pale yoke
wind otter
no poetry, no idioms, no sentences, no words, when I die my tombstone will only have three numbers: 252
silent nova
Anyone got tailoring stats for tp2
bright root
So I have 2 lvl 3 power plants and I am capped at 540/540 energy
But most bases use 252
So how do you guys upgrade other rooms?
hasty tiger
Pin has setups for a variety of combinations
bright root
my problem is not the setup, i can't upgrade my base
silent nova
252 has some facilities downgraded
arctic prism
the whole point of 252 is to leave the buildings that dont provide much benefit for how much power they consume at lower levels to have enough power to create an extra production facility
bright root
the office is the only thing not upgraDED
silent nova
You can downgrade dorms and left side facilities
bright root
hold on a minute the video suggested says office is the only thing not upgraded
silent nova
For the right side
arctic prism
you can refer to this to see what levels your facilities should be at
bright root
AH, Peter only has 1 facility at level 3
silent nova
you can refer to this to see what levels your facilities should be at
Wow
If you go to that pin you can see me talking a few messages down
I've spent too much time in this channel I gotta leave
arctic prism
lmao
fluid pollen
Ancient
molten silo
ok, but 252 better production wise
i cant make it to 252 due to power. how do i do it
fluid pollen
i cant make it to 252 due to power. how do i do it
There’s a video to convert in pins, just follow that.
rich matrix
Which skill do I use in workshop?
orchid bane
Find 80% or more
jaunty notch
sort by efficiency, pick leftmost
orchid bane
sort by efficiency, pick leftmost
That doesn't look good here 80% and 100% is in the middle
orchid bane
Which skill do I use in workshop?
Or just highest you could find
orchid bane
That doesn't look good here 80% and 100% is in the middle
Oh Gato is right but that is after you pick the formula
Interesting
bright root
I hate going into the base and selecting operators for each building in my base
Its so annoying
silent nova
you can use presets and then press the rotate button to rotate everyone
you're not gonna get the best output but you only press like 2 buttons and you're done
orchid bane
I hate going into the base and selecting operators for each building in my base
You can leave them all to death, come into base one in awhile, still got something
Get everything else you need with sanity
You don't have to put OP in workshop or training room
They still work
bright root
Hopw do I use presets?
orchid bane
Overview workzone edit each building
After that when a building is dead you could use a button to quick swap all of the dead one
Those which about to dead you have to press it in Overview
@wind otter are they gonna fix it ?
Also rerun event start in reset daily time
Weird
bright root
ah shit i have preset all rooms
bright halo
What combos are good for gold production?
spark sapphire
check pin 4, factory tab on the gsheet
cursive ledge
how i fix operators for a specific work? like factory, trading post,power plant etc..
like i have this many operators but who do i assign to where?
rigid plume
how i fix operators for a specific work? like factory, trading post,power plant ...
You mean, like Lock in Dorm?
Or just making preset for fast switch?
cursive ledge
preset for fast switch
rigid plume
preset for fast switch
Select the building, click Add Preset, then tap + on Op Assign and select ops you want to see, confirm.
cursive ledge
who should i select? until now i just clicked the ops who appears first when i change shift
rigid plume
If you tap ↔️, the preset will be switched.
rigid plume
who should i select? until now i just clicked the ops who appears first when i c...
Refer to Base Combo sheet in pins and select the most best combo you have now.
If you cannot, just use classic +Efficiency% with higher %.
night timber
how to see how much lmd im producing per day
rigid plume
how to see how much lmd im producing per day
Control Center > Base Assistant > you already see yesterday's earnings on right side, tap (<) button to see 2 previous days before yesterday as well.
pale yoke
jaunty notch
honestly i really should add the efficiency filter into NOOB
wise shale
When I started playing the game I upgraded my office to level 2
Am I cooked for 2/5/2?
orchid bane
No. Lv2 is cool
wise shale
My RR is also lvl 2...
orchid bane
Yea that is still good
Unless both of that building are lv3 , you are pretty much being envied by many ppl here
wise shale
Well that's great, thanks for telling me
wind otter
<@871381696321306645> are they gonna fix it ?
At least they did. That's the best for THEM, keep silent, don't address the community about smaller things, fix on the next batch if they fix at all. They can get away with it as long as is not a huge blunder which they would have to address. This way they don't need to do emergency maint and suffer giving us 200 orundum because they know all those 200 orundums would help us pot 6 Haruka.
orchid bane
Still wonder those who rich 3rd floor is gonna go back to 2nd floor or not
Guess I will never know
wind otter
Second part is just sarcasm, there is no reason for Yostar to be so stingy, 200 orundum is nothing and I would say emergency maints that give those measly 200 orundum would do better to improve their reputation, if they cared. It's not like you can pot 6 Haruka with 200 orundum. It's crazy, you even go to Endfield circles and you see people dunking on Yostar over there. I play Limbus and Project Moon constantly blunders, like 10 mins after maint they discover a mistake, but they address the mistake, they communicate, they fix the mistake and sometimes do maint and sometimes don't, the people cherish Project Moon over there and finding mistakes is not an issue. But I guess your reputation is not that important if you remain functional enough and fix major blunders.
wind otter
sure, in 20 pulls
orchid bane
winged hollow
big dream for a bald man
wind otter
that's not a dream, that's almost impossible
orchid bane
Almost
winged hollow
I thought pot isn't matter
wind otter
"matter" is a point of view, Anakin
winged hollow
very well Master
wind otter
you can actually auto deploy 6 runs of Adventure MO stage, that's going to take care of some weekly missions
winged hollow
run IS is enough to clear it also more progress
wind otter
sure, I can see that. I meant by Tuesday though
vagrant blaze
nodules are back in the cert shop
not sure if anyone already mentioned that
orchid bane
you can actually auto deploy 6 runs of Adventure MO stage, that's going to take ...
I did that but seem like it is not count for the event 40 runs mission one
Done all the reward quest include that 40 runs, Enough to buy 1st 3 event stuffs
Now I need 5 and a half days more to clear the store
wind otter
weird
wind otter
Done all the reward quest include that 40 runs, Enough to buy 1st 3 event stuffs...
what's the problem? can't go back to the mines?
wind otter
we're in the middle of an event red, commit to it smh
round lichen
I've spent too much time in this channel I gotta leave
I watched the 9CD vid Peter did and it was crazy that he gave you a shoutout
bright root
is there any reason to upgrade the right side of the abse
rigid plume
is there any reason to upgrade the right side of the abse
You mean Reception Room and Office in particular?
bright root
I heard to keep offioce at lvl 1 and reception should be kept at lvl 2
i was talking about the right right side as well
orchid bane
If you are asking for reasons
RR lv3 for 3 friends borrow slots, (maybe a Texas pot not sure that is lv2 or 3)
Office lv1 might be annoying with only 2 recruit slots , lv2 with 3 slots is more reasonable
But 4 slots is not necessary
bright root
so waht are activity rooms for?
Also precious metals are turned into money right
so should 3 factory's be on metal production
pallid isle
rr level 3 is the one that finishes pinboard and grabs texas
activity rooms are pure trust rooms
they don't count as space for operators they don't count for operators in base they don't count for well anything
most base skills mention that they are excluded
pallid isle
so should 3 factory's be on metal production
for a 252 set up consider your 5th factory usually as a flex. This also varies a lot if you have proviso or not as to how much gold your eating and how fast.
pallid isle
i can enjoy the stupid nitro benefit for a month but anyway yeah its free %
pallid isle
for a 252 set up consider your 5th factory usually as a flex. This also varies a...
as for this your going to swap most likely depending on what you need. I have slowly gained up to 1500 gold bars so i am staying on 3 exp 2 gold for a while but eventually will need to swap back due to how fast proviso eats gold
orchid bane
so should 3 factory's be on metal production
If your goldbar keep pilling up forever ,it is bad, if you don't have enough to feed your TP, it is also bad, you should change that fac or have strategy to use up your goldbar
pallid isle
If you need/want exp fast but need gold now you can also drone gold with 3 exp
but the best "overall" value is recommended to drone tp
just depends on situation
bright root
what?
I didn't understand
drone gold
the trading post only process metal to money
orchid bane
Just use drone on what you need
You can't compare its value on gold exp LMD
For trading post if you have Proviso
It is better to use your drone on lv2 Proviso than to use it on normal TP
E2 is recommended
bright root
I wish I had her 🙁
orchid bane
I think there are 5* voucher in few days
bright root
If so there might be a better pick then proviso for me
orchid bane
Not sure
bright root
I am only a month in
orchid bane
If I were you I will just pick Proviso
There are some good 5* but there are not actually anyone that will carry your game that good
bright root
damn
orchid bane
If you have the voucher just pick her. Promise you won't regret it
But if. It might be 6* voucher I don't remember
orchid bane
If you have the voucher just pick her. Promise you won't regret it
Oh you might regret it if you have her in the banner, so maybe keep the voucher for 14 days
bright root
but shouldn't i pull on the collab banners?
pallid isle
You can't compare its value on gold exp LMD
in fairness i forget the exact "sanity" value but form what i was told in the past droning tp gives the highest value. I suppose I just should have said that
pallid isle
but shouldn't i pull on the collab banners?
generally yes since it limited character
orchid bane
but shouldn't i pull on the collab banners?
There are free pull daily in the limited banner
Total 24 free pull
Chance are small but who know
orchid bane
in fairness i forget the exact "sanity" value but form what i was told in the pa...
There are no right way to compare LMD EXP and gold. The one that commonly use is by drone. Which mean a drone for exp = for gold = for TP
And Proviso might better the drone values on TP by up to 1.8 times
silent nova
I watched the 9CD vid Peter did and it was crazy that he gave you a shoutout
LOL
the ncd research was serious shit
summer kernel
for you big rock farmers, is the material sanity value of all those T1 mats (sugar, ester, oriron, etc) basically zero for y'all? As in, do you have such a surplus of those mats and their T2/T3 that you never farm any of those event stages? Like you'd never run AS-7 for T3 oriron in this rerun?
winged hollow
for you big rock farmers, is the material sanity value of all those T1 mats (sug...
usually no the rate is so low I rather farm it directly
summer kernel
I wonder what the best farming strategy is now that we know that mats are slowly getting sunsetted, and stockpiling is depeciating. I think grindstone is next so AS-9 is the only real option unless you skip the event? Theres also some niche where you mix in AS-6 if you have some crazy goal of maximizing rocks while clearing shop?
silent nova
for you big rock farmers, is the material sanity value of all those T1 mats (sug...
surprisingly no
well i mean
my situation is sorta silly because near everything is 0 since im gated by craft time by ncd rather than mats due to high surplus
so i guesst here's still value in them in fuel
summer kernel
thanks for the quick resposne guys lol. very unfamilar with the AO playstyle 
. So much easier to just accumulate mats with no other competing goals
winged hollow
AO? it isn't go well if you are low on exp and lmd
summer kernel
so i guesst here's still value in them in fuel
if youre into fuel then you essentially farm to clear the shop with the lowest sanity then do rock right? so probably one of the first 3 AS stages? but then i think its AS-6 for low efficiency rocks right?
silent nova
that sounds about right for ao maxxing
summer kernel
AO? it isn't go well if you are low on exp and lmd
the bottleneck will always be sanity for rocks, right? a decent factory will outpace the LMD needs of even max rocks.
summer kernel
how many ops are you building or are you just super into rocks?
winged hollow
I built all of necessary ops for AO
I mean I min maxing in general AO is just a bonus
summer kernel
so all meta base op for lmd and tp? so in the last year, around 5 operators?
winged hollow
you can use meta to make orundums shard as well
summer kernel
i guess + real 6* for gameplay too lol
winged hollow
fyi I use exodia with ros in fac to make shard then use mr nothing eben+ 40% to make orundum in tp
for reference Ros waai fu minimalist for fac
mr nothing eben vigil for tp
summer kernel
do you have a full rotation i can take a look at?
winged hollow
min maxing with iris Czerny virt and mulberry
and shu and nian and yu lol
link 4 in pin
instead use them to make gold/exp and lmd
you use them to make orundum shard and orundum
very simple
to boost fac I don't use Saileach I replace her with kal
I tweak them to maximize the output
summer kernel
oh, so its just the usual max exodia but you use it on shards. do you still do 12/12? fac would fill up, no?
winged hollow
8/8/8
summer kernel
342 as well? 2 gold 1 shard 1 xp?
summer kernel
i can see heavy drone gold tp 252 working. 3 gold 1 shard 1 xp.
winged hollow
I usually don't make them at the same times unless you stockpile rock beforehand
fluid pollen
Just converting in one fac and trading in one tp after probs makes sense also?
summer kernel
id have to run the math to see how the deficits work. i cant believe that is min max final form if you run out of mats to farm for the operators you care to build
winged hollow
make shard first then convert I don't do it at the same time
summer kernel
so did you clear the event shop since its still super efficient with AS-6 or do you just do the rerun missions on the best ones like AS-6 thru 9 and EX-8CM?
winged hollow
I only run as-6 rerun the mission you only need from 5 to 9 for the reward
summer kernel
so you never plan to clear the purp store?
winged hollow
no some mats don't matter because how little they use
summer kernel
just the orundum from the "free" furnature conversion?
summer kernel
Sorry, i meant do you just get the passive amount of purp certs and thats enough for just the orundum and some spare but youre not aiming for any mats, even if youre slightly net positive on purp certs? is that the mindset?
summer kernel
the priority is orundum mats that use often skill book
oh so you do get enough purp certs to buy out "good mats" like skillbooks and the new jars i suppose?
winged hollow
you don't use all of them
so I skip pretty all ex8-cm of all rerun because it isn't necessary
I check missions have furniture converted only do those missions then farm the mats until 200+ after that I farm rock if it has that nodes
I thought that was common knowledge
I currently have like 6k-7k purple certs
summer kernel
that is a logical workflow but i assume after a while you have 200+ of all T3 mats so you end up only farming the rock stage every event, no matter how bad the rate is. you still clear shop, right or do you skip xp or any of the low value/sanity mats?
obtuse shell
Is this the best way to setup Exualt and Lemon or is there someone better
summer kernel
Is this the best way to setup Exualt and Lemon or is there someone better
exu2 is worse than the reg exu. check pin 4 for the best setups
winged hollow
that is a logical workflow but i assume after a while you have 200+ of all T3 ma...
if you are montly player you are pretty much clear all the shop, if you are f2p skip furniture parts and module parts
obtuse shell
exu2 is worse than the reg exu. check pin 4 for the best setups
I see a lot of pins which is the best setups
Links I mean
Not pins
Sorry
Links
winged hollow
best setup for what lmd? use lemon og exu and 40%
obtuse shell
Hm whos a good 40%
winged hollow
if you have proviso then pair her with lemon and og exu
obtuse shell
I do but I thiufht shes more efficient in one of the lvl2 traders
obtuse shell
Who's a good 40% other than proviso, shes in my other TP being fia rotated
winged hollow
if you are 252 no one reach that 40% at that point use shamare combo is more efficient
unless you use exodia
obtuse shell
Yeah ts 252 with a lvl2 tp my early ass maxed my reception for no good reasjn
summer kernel
if you are montly player you are pretty much clear all the shop, if you are f2p ...
f2p can also clear almost all reruns but i assume as a min maxer you'd stop before atleast the 1000 xp since its the least value per sanity and move onto rocks again. if you stop building or end up building everyone, your xp becomes useless but i guess your base xp doesnt outpace the new ops coming in game if you only run 1 xp.
obtuse shell
link 4 tab special
?Exodia?
winged hollow
if you only raise those event ops yes your xp will keep stockpile
obtuse shell
Why is it called Exodia lol
winged hollow
we call them exodia because the combo made them
obtuse shell
I don't have either those raised anyways so id lose more doing so ig
summer kernel
?Exodia?
scroll all the way down. theres a section for spare 40%+. I think 252 can qualify for underflow, hoe and the new spreadshooter sniper when she comes to global
jaunty notch
kichisei is a bit hard for optimal setups, but if you're just talking about a lv3 tp she fine
also if you're new go to NOOB
obtuse shell
Ive been passing by with Hoe/Quarts-Proviso (fia) in lvl2tp and E0Jaye-Chilchuk-Rose and LappExuTexas but just changed lappexutexas with Lemon-Exu1-ambriel i guess
summer kernel
kichisei is a bit hard for optimal setups, but if you're just talking about a lv...
i think bob doesnt have shamare or is using this as a rotational shift so kichisei would work in that lvl3 but optimally just fia the big 3
jaunty notch
and e2-ing for base skills is uh...
summer kernel
and e2-ing for base skills is uh...
the man e2-ed rose lol. hes one of us
summer kernel
Ive been passing by with Hoe/Quarts-Proviso (fia) in lvl2tp and E0Jaye-Chilchuk-...
if you dont have shamare, we're about to get a 5* selector and your tp rotations will be locked in basically
gentle charm
Who should I use for orundum trading post?
obtuse shell
if you dont have shamare, we're about to get a 5* selector and your tp rotations...
Ofc i have her but not raised
Should I fix that? I did raise proviso purely for base before Ig I could do it again if theyre worth it
jaunty notch
Who should I use for orundum trading post?
highest %
obtuse shell
I will literally never use Tequila either lmao
summer kernel
Ofc i have her but not raised
Should I fix that? I did raise proviso purely for...
roi is pretty bad but basically the best after proviso if you have the other two in her team built.
obtuse shell
roi is pretty bad but basically the best after proviso if you have the other two...
Ah sadly no
Ive been doing basic JayeE0 as my other team
summer kernel
did you build rose for gameplay? 
obtuse shell
I built rose cuz she Spanish
And yells angry Spanish at me
I justified it to myself by saying its for Immortal Surtr but thats a lie
obtuse shell
did you build rose for gameplay? <:ExuHeart:673512491304747018>
123% ain't so bad tho
No I do not have good HQ setups I just throw in basic +7% with Amiya and Ascalon and Factory boost from the 2 Kalsits
summer kernel
shes great. 34, 42, 40 at peak iirc. id rather not manage jaye e0 though
obtuse shell
Eh the perks of never raising jaye
But I dont "manage them" I just swap em with TexLappExu whatever
(Now LemuenAmbrielExu1)
summer kernel
But I dont "manage them" I just swap em with TexLappExu whatever
i meant the efficiency dropping pretty hard during a 12hr shift. pin 4 should have it but the jaye team drops down a ton over the course of a 12hr shift
obtuse shell
Oh yeah forgot that
I mean I guess I could Fia Exu1 and make LemonAmbriel and TexLapp share her?
In-between proviso fia?
If i choose to drop jaye
But then ill screw up fia sometimes lol
winged hollow
to me the best for orundum tp is eben mr nothing 40%
obtuse shell
Need more lmd before I can go back to orundum
winged hollow
is senshi worth e2 for extra 5%?
orchid bane
Marcille is up to 35% factory can be used for both gold and exp in 243, if you have a 30% slot somewhere , upgrading Senshi will increase your income
about worth or not, you should know it yourself
35% for chil is kinda bad nowaday but Idk what you have
Oh I like Laios more than Ines
orchid bane
@frank cipher
wind otter
I see a lot of pins which is the best setups
check noob tab, facility specifc tabs for specific facilities, and Special tab for further meta combos
obtuse shell
check noob tab, facility specifc tabs for specific facilities, and Special tab f...
Thanks friend
A lot of the factory setups assume combos that work in lvl3 factories but most factories in 252 are lvl2, so what's some good factory duos?
obtuse shell
The only actually good duos I can think of is Dorothy+Ptilo, and Purestream+Gravel
obtuse shell
except combo require use 3
Yeah thats what I mean most of them look like they require 3 unless im mistaken
winged hollow
for example?
obtuse shell
Okay say Highmore and Mizuki, doesnt highmore rely on having a 3rd standard to bolster her value
obtuse shell
So that just makes 67%
Pure+Gravel is 97%
Thats a big difference between those duos
obtuse shell
Bryo isnt raised
Ill make the swap with weedy tho
iirc the only operstor worth raising just for base skill is proviso right?
winged hollow
pure count on tp and weedy count on pp you should make the 3rd slot is either windflit/passernger
if you min maxing everyone worth to e2 for skill
at that point you don't care about ROI
obtuse shell
A lot of the factory setups assume combos that work in lvl3 factories but most f...
Most my 252 factories are lvl2 hence im only talking about duos
winged hollow
I said about stagger
you stagger duo combo not replace all of them when low morale
winged hollow
for the reference you can stagger every 6h
obtuse shell
Yeah I absolutely cannot do that in play the game in lunch break and before bed and thats it lol
Work takes too much of my brain
But if I can manage most my swapped duos to be at least 60% or more in my lvl2 factories thats good too right?
winged hollow
I stagger in lunch break
you can't manage the best of them most of time, It's better usually only 1-2 in the batch and you expect get the lower
if it work and steady then it work
obtuse shell
If i try to maximize my efficiency with staggering, but then mess up a lot by leaving ops with no moral too often (i know myself) I feel like ill ironically end up being less efficienct lmao
winged hollow
that's why I am 243
less efficient more leeway
not like I have lunch break everyday, sometimes because of work I skip it then skip also stagger
but because I am 243 ops recover faster even if I fucked up rotation
also combo work in 3 combos team you have more backup ops to fit in
also you can cursed proviso/tequila if Fia isn't recovery in time
cursed proviso with lvl5 dorm is recovering faster
obtuse shell
Also what heck is "ROI"/roi
winged hollow
return of invesment
obtuse shell
Oh so the thing only proviso achieved lol
winged hollow
proviso pay back herself in 8 months others go into infinity
but with a gacha game ROI is useless
because you get gold/exp/lmd out of thin air
obtuse shell
Yeah I almost was about to raise poze just for it once upon a time but then wisadel released on cn and I was like now ill never actually use poze in gameplay so why bother lol
winged hollow
pozy? the best tp slave you can achieve in game
she can go up 202% with the right setup
but to setup her is a little bit tricky you need 4 durin stay in dorm all the time then you have to e2 her e2 kirara e2 tuye
and at least 4 gold fac
lucky you I'm on 4 gold fac
summer kernel
i remember seeing a source that gave the byproduct mat splits by tiers. Does anyone have that?
like it was a doc or sheet that gave a % of what you would get if you got a T1/2/3 byproduct or something like that since you dont have an equal chance of getting all the mats when you generate a byproduct.
jaunty notch
A lot of the factory setups assume combos that work in lvl3 factories but most f...
you can also reference sample rotations in INFO
but generally, the mindset is learning how the core of combos work, then look at the number
the doc already split the number so that you can easily get the correct value even when you remove the 3rd member
summer kernel
i remember seeing a source that gave the byproduct mat splits by tiers. Does any...
found a screenshot of the sheet on reddit but its's originally from Cube, so ig its legit?
https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/kx7q8l/workshop_byproduct_biases/
valid storm
found a screenshot of the sheet on reddit but its's originally from Cube, so ig ...
it's from 5 years ago
it has changed since
I could create a similar one, I've gathered the byproducts once while trying to calculate the sanity values
wicked canopy
peterYR mentioned some time ago that apparently the exact weights are stored on the client (for some reason lol)
valid storm
peterYR mentioned some time ago that apparently the exact weights are stored on ...
yes, they are
but since datamining is forbidden...
wicked canopy
fair enough 
summer kernel
any hints on where i can look for the updated source myself 🫣
also, anyone do the math on value of mats as NCD fuel alone, per karma/casualty gained?
oh its just the msv of the base sticks and bricks, i think lol
vernal moss
Do we know exactly how much chance increase shamare and bibeak give for high gold tp orders
Like what is "slightly increase"
orchid bane
Shamere 4 gold 55% after 5 hr ramp
Bibeak 4 gold 85% after 5hr ramp
fleet wolf
orchid bane
Wtf 30% difference even though they have the same wording?? <:LappDumb:596474463...
Regular order is 20%
So slightly did something there
pale yoke
Shamere 4 gold 55% after 5 hr ramp
Bibeak 4 gold 85% after 5hr ramp
i know this is what the previous riic member tested and most of their consensus but my experience just different, sometimes i just went from [shamare proviso tequila] 1 hr 17min trade into [bibeak shamare tequila] 2hr22min full for the rest of the days
and sometimes SPT 2hr22min into BST 222 and still fail on the 3rd trade or even 10hr into bibeak and fail to get 4 gold trade...i think regular cursed user will have similar experience
also f2p btw
frank cipher
yes even 24h on max ramp still fail 4gold trade , nonetheless average is still same
pale yoke
i remember there were one where shamare bibeak was at 1 last morale and 20min left
i figured ah, lets wait til the last 4gold 2500 trade then start cursing
it was 1hr 2 gold
summer kernel
sorry, feeling kinda dumb right now but why do we skip the event missions if you dont plan on farming the event stages or inf shop for the mats? Isnt it better to get the event tokens as quick as possible then move onto chips/rocks/whatever?
like even the bad S stage missions give ~3tokens per sanity-used which is going to be much better than the 1 token + at most 1.2sanity per sanity-used
orchid bane
Yes if you don't want the tier 3 then do all the quests
There were some events that all of the tier 3 are bad
But if you don't have enough the tier 3 then it is more recommended to skip those quests with only event token
frank cipher
lost 200sanity for few cube salt, so salty rn
orchid bane
In this event, me and my friends all lack of cyclicene so I think the demand for that one is quite good
AS-9 one
summer kernel
But if you don't have enough the tier 3 then it is more recommended to skip thos...
do you skip the CM plaque? I feel like with the new inf shop sunsetting all mats, purp certs are worthless since you get more than enough free for the orundum
i think im straight up going to skip all event shop furniture in new events too
orchid bane
do you skip the CM plaque? I feel like with the new inf shop sunsetting all mats...
Although I don't need it anymore, I just do it for fun
But my friends account actually got some exp left
And still do it
summer kernel
lol, i think im going to just buy the jars even though i dont need them yet. last to get sunsetted
orchid bane
Oh ofc the tier 4 is always worth it
Just don't buy Kohl Sugar Poly Device
Those T4 are kinda bad now
summer kernel
long term, theyre not right? T4 mang is like 0.4sanity per cert now that the T3s are in the shop
the only thing stopping it from hitting 0.1 is actually the poly
summer kernel
why not books? it probably is the only mat that holds its value
orchid bane
why not books? it probably is the only mat that holds its value
Oh exp is kinda the lowest value of them all
orchid bane
Just don't buy Kohl Sugar Poly Device
except for those tier 4 I mentioned here
It is not about the value, it is just, new OP don't use them any longer, only module for 5*
About the value Manganese T4 can be consider bad
summer kernel
i wish we could buy chips or glue. i feel like im always just farming for chips and glue
orchid bane
Red voucher for me
I wish there are more of them in everywhere
Credit store , event store
PyterYr
frank cipher
green cert pls
pale yoke
lost 200sanity for few cube salt, so salty rn
you farming regular stage?
frank cipher
nope event stage, 200 for 3 seem to expensive for me , idk
frank cipher
don't touch those again, gonna farm oriron bit then drop
pale yoke
for regular stage (back when 160 sanity was cap) i had a full 160 just for 1 salt
yea i going full oriron too
after the 6 for 3
orchid bane
nope event stage, 200 for 3 seem to expensive for me , idk
Well I got this
But still farming tho
frank cipher
need 40, 10 on Ato 10 on rerun 10 shop 10 new year update, probably fine before ave mujika
pale yoke
deserved
orchid bane
pale yoke
orchid bane
What have I done ?
orchid bane
need 40, 10 on Ato 10 on rerun 10 shop 10 new year update, probably fine before ...
We have no stages in 6 month
So
Oh wait I just notice Grind stone is about to go
Omg
Kinda saw that coming
At least It is not Aketon
vital cargo
When this Operator is assigned to a Trading Post, the chance of getting higher-yield Precious Metal orders is increased slightly (rate is influenced by length of work time), and Morale consumed per hour is reduced by -0.25
so does the work duration increase or decrease upvalue lol
jaunty notch
increase
orchid bane
3 of the tier 3 value is bad now. Should I consider back to use Blemshine for tier 1 to 3 ?
Also, books
slim yarrow
Made a few changes in the 252 base. I'm running Proviso in TP lvl 3 cause I don't really have a good single LMD producer.
But gold production might not keep up with new setup, should I lower tp to level 2 so I can afford level 3 gold Fac?
Also when Proviso has low moral I spend drones on gold, so maybe that's enough?
silent nova
this looks like 2 gold? you can also just switch a third fac
slim yarrow
this looks like 2 gold? you can also just switch a third fac
Yes it is. I guess that's a valid option. For some reason didn't think of it. Thx!
plucky basin
rocks map 
silent nova
though a spart of that i would recommend down levelling your prov tp anyways
the difference goes from uhh
1.592920354 to 1.85915493 prod mult
which is proooobably worth losing a third slot if that third slot is 30%
i'm not doing the math for it rn though but you also get a lvl 3 fac in exchange so i think its kinda a no brainer
orchid bane
rocks map <:AngeHyper:700474999626268706>
Uhhh. If you don't use every single T2 rock ||like me||, better farming 1-7 for them
orchid bane
I'm running out of blue rocks badly
Orion ?
slim yarrow
i'm not doing the math for it rn though but you also get a lvl 3 fac in exchange...
My best option is Vigil btw 
orchid bane
There is a short name in that picture
slim yarrow
that's not really legible
I was using lemu+exu combo, which also wasn't great
plucky basin
as my planner would say, "bro you need stone"
