#r-i-i-c

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torn meteor
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they are saying if you try to quick swap off preset 2 itll go back to preset 1 because they are back to full morale

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that only applies if shift 1 uses
abc
and shift 2 uses
def

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letters representing individual workers

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if your shifts are like
abc
cde
abd
itll rotate as expected rather than only swapping between shifts 1 and 2

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so basically its only a problem if you use 3 full teams while not staggering which is bad anyway because your best team will always be pretty noticeably better than your 3rd best team in 99% of facilities

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id say yes this is prob your best way to handle it although if you do quickswap itll try to do things in a way that resets aroma's productivity buildup so you may want to consider moving either purestream or aroma out of shift 2 and into shift 3 just for convenience sake

torn meteor
frank cipher
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lvl2 : guarantee low order lmd (+500)
lvl3 : 50/50

wind otter
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"for now"? the hell do you know that we don't DrudgeThink

torn meteor
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idk if its enough to save shu tho cuz i forget the ratio on her skill

wind otter
orchid bane
wind otter
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must be something in the cereal, making people this optimistic

valid storm
wind otter
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that's a dangerous substance

valid storm
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naah

orchid bane
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nice mod

thin grotto
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has alternating WP/PI teams in a 36-hour schedule become any simpler over time? or is the whole Ling/Dusk thing still as cursed as it ever was? been a while since I checked in about this. to be clear, I run WP 2/3 of the time with Ling/Chong/Saileach in CC, but have never touched PI even though it seems pretty good too (though maybe less so for my 252 setup) and I have all of the operators it could use

valid storm
orchid bane
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Wait I was not implying you are not nice or anything

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You have always been the nicest mod I have ever met in my entire life in every universe I have been so far

valid storm
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Nice to know that you haven't met with other mods in your life

queen flicker
orchid bane
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They are

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Nice nice

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You are

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NICEEEEEEEEE

torn meteor
queen flicker
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oh so you mean with quick swap it will go for example from rotation 1 to rotation 3

torn meteor
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ye exactly

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at best itll go like 1 3 2 3 if aroma is in 1 and 2

queen flicker
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i see. thanks. i'll do them manually then. first press edit and then quickswap the acording rotation

torn meteor
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you could circumvent it by shuffling your setup a bit, making it
aroma purestream steward
aroma totter vanilla
purestream vanilla steward

queen flicker
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ohh so thats what you was trying to tell me before. now i understand it SkadiDaijoubu

torn meteor
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it doesnt perfectly fix it but it helps

queen flicker
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i thought it was about aroma ramp up or something LappDumb

torn meteor
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yep sorry that my explanation was messy lmao, i tend to have a very fragmented train of thought

torn meteor
chilly shadow
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Chat, are 70k bucks in single day with 2 trade post is w or nah?

torn meteor
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actually come to think of it a worker with boosted self morale drain would unfuck the quickswap

torn meteor
chilly shadow
queen flicker
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btw ouf of topic but is this fine? whenever i drone proviso, i first swap into formation 3. it doesn't matter that there isn't a third worker there just for droning right? i'm askign just in case. also, i have tailoring shamare tequila in another tp (in that order) so this manuver shouldn't mess tailoring or shamare ramp up right?

chilly shadow
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Usually it can be higher

torn meteor
torn meteor
chilly shadow
torn meteor
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ok then that average is pretty good

chilly shadow
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Btw if I have fia latter, which one should I change the morale for?proviso or tequilam

torn meteor
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if you have fia its not that hard to get a 62-65k average

chilly shadow
torn meteor
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ok so if you dont want to curse, ideally you have one of walter chongyue or mlynar in tp and use fia on proviso tequila shamare

queen flicker
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first two days are with proviso in lvl 2 tp and last day is with my recently lvl 3 tp proviso team. looks promising. lets see how it averages in a few days

chilly shadow
torn meteor
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facility morale drain reduction from them lets fia very easily juggle 3 ops, iirc cho was looking at the possibility of using her on 4+ ops

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anyway if you use fia on proviso tequila shamare you will average 67k pretty easily

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at that point it kinda becomes a game of gold production because your gold consumption is massive

orchid bane
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Back then, this was "hell yeah, let's gooo",now this is "f*** my life" @wind otter

winged hollow
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for AO would you stock up orumdum shard around 10k before convert it?

stoic spoke
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Is this enough MD reduction to Fiametta charge 4 operators in lv3 FAC/TP?

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I forgot the requirements BPTiredofThis

orchid bane
upbeat fossil
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was homegirl mistranslated

jaunty notch
round lichen
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I just did 300

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But I highly value building ops, so you could stock up around 1k if you’re willing to put more sanity into 1-7

frank cipher
azure topaz
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im 252, is it normal that my pure gold is decreasing at some point it will soon be insufficient?

pale yoke
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yes if you do 2 gold 3xp

winged hollow
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I can make 1 pull per day so avg 600 = 60 shards per day, banner last for 2 week = 840 shards

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14 pulls around entire the event but if it's back to back like limited + collab i need more

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Realistically you don't convert it in the time of the event because tp bottleneck

pale yoke
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im suprised so many are doing ao farming

valid storm
winged hollow
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Even if i am capable of pulling what else should i do? Mats check. Lmd check. Exp check. Dual chips check.

wind otter
wind otter
fluid pollen
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Om cope is crazy. SwireKek

frank cipher
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I'm just 2 Rich in lmd

wind otter
fluid pollen
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It’s not cope no more?

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Man all the hopium has gone away huh.

wind otter
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||we need to wait for next summer event tbh||

pale yoke
pale yoke
wind otter
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I meant CN DocSmile

valid storm
pale yoke
valid storm
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and they care the same amount as before

pale yoke
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ReedBean idek how to reply to that, you seems to take it very serious

valid storm
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Sorry but I'm forced to

pale yoke
valid storm
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I can't, heading to work currently and I wanna stay home and play Fallout 4

pale yoke
stoic spoke
winged hollow
valid storm
fossil lodge
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i saw the /base command in botspam, what do i do if i already upgraded RR to 3?

rigid plume
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Cut the loses.

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And move on.

valid storm
fossil lodge
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I had to upgrade it for the rookie missions to get texas.... 🙁

fossil lodge
fossil lodge
frank cipher
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play for 2y your tex full pot, not worth for permanent base damaged, tho it's wat it's

valid storm
fossil lodge
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i didnt know im new, i just wanted to get the rookie missions done

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cant i ask support to downgrade it?

frank cipher
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that's how suppose you play the game

valid storm
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right side can only be fixed with a new account

fossil lodge
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well i guess ill live with 3lvl 3 fac instead of 4

fossil lodge
valid storm
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just go for 1 not maxed factory

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or leave out 1 dorm

fossil lodge
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Tyvm

winged hollow
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what make them so hard for able to downgrade right side

valid storm
winged hollow
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those things aren't important they can just do fixed metric like default 100 friends

wind otter
shadow frost
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im trying to think if there is anyone i should be locking into my last dorm so that fiametta gets back to 100% faster 🤔

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oh, she isn't affected by other sources of moral. duh. that would make sense

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they should add a second fiametta-esque base skill KalSip

wind otter
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that's like my weekly monologue

frank cipher
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my occasionally thought to bypass fia morale curse
-# that chicken should auto recovery without dorm

wind otter
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let's not stop there, ops work even if they aren't in facilities

jaunty notch
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Activity rooms now apply the operator’s skill to the entire base

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Go, do a theory craft

wind otter
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blackgato for president

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but of course the celebration will be short lived because as soon as blackgato becomes president he will be IMMIDIATELY assassinated because of course we can't have shit for base
he will become like the martin luther king of base
then new HG base designers will come and go saying blackgato inspired me about this and that, and blah blah blah but is all BS when we see the only thing they are good is to release skill trainer # 786, 787, 788 and so forth until EoS

pale yoke
wind otter
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more cc space

pale yoke
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i want more factory space, 5 slot fac would be so much more fun and enable a lot of combo

wind otter
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asking is free DocSmile

pale yoke
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ThornsNani 400 ops only 50 of them being showcase in base any given time is not fair (ik you can do trust ops etc)

wind otter
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you mean like a showcase room

pale yoke
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i just want more slot in base

wind otter
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showroom seems plausible since it gives us no LMD, gold, or EXP cards HellaKek

pale yoke
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we already have assistant and now activity room

wind otter
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I thought you said that wasn't enough DrudgeThink

pale yoke
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yea i meant that i know we have those and we can exceed 50 ops showcase with that, just a preemtive statement before someone say "acktually you can technically go above 50"

wind otter
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I think HG knows Cia, you may be asking for more ops in base but they know you just want to see bigger base numbers HellaKek

pale yoke
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SkadiDaijoubu don't we all

wind otter
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not me, I'm an austere philosopher

pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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that's crazy

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BPTiredofThis need to get more xp for upcoming banner...

wind otter
# pale yoke that's crazy

this one is kind of old though, may be coincidence but I think this announcement was posted when supah promoted some website that offered to do something against ToS

wind otter
pale yoke
pale yoke
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i plan on getting the whole ave team max

wind otter
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all three notifications seem new, maybe new device?

pale yoke
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nah old device, just pc login

wind otter
wind otter
pale yoke
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you getting leizi? i kinda want leizi too

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yea...

wind otter
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RNGods willing SpecterPray

pale yoke
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i already nuked my stash from doing multiple e2 during the downtime

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had the time to farm those chips

wind otter
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I need to prep post hoshi-alter, but me lazy

pale yoke
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26 e2 lol

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dang

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yea all those limited banner

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ops

wind otter
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don't promote old ops for now, old mats turning to kernel those ops will promote themselves with time

pale yoke
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yea start saving now

wind otter
pale yoke
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it was too tempting during the downtime because was able to farm so many chips

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so i just mass promote

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i think i went from 26m to 8m with some e2 and some max lv

wind otter
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no wonder no EXP HellaKek

wind otter
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SilverAlter livestream rewards, how dare they

pale yoke
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does SA use that?

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i did notice fewer and fewer ops use device related mats

wind otter
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no one uses them anymore HellaKek

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at least last time I checked

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haven't prepped beyond HoshiAlter

pale yoke
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notice that when crafting, device related mats seems to deplete way slower than other mats

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farmed alloy the whole time current event

wind otter
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it's the time to farm pulls with devices

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added all upcoming 6 stars and the Ave Mujica 5 stars up to SilverAlter and added all masteries and modules to the planner... notice something missing?

pale yoke
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they are actually encouraging ao farming

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53 pyramid is diabolical

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ThornsNani good thing i can just buy those mats from shop

wind otter
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hoshi event nodule farming stage also

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I bet people spend all devices in farming then HG comes with another mat recipe that uses them, like chirals use sugar and fiber board use poly

pale yoke
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DocSmile they should totally make use of kohl more

wind otter
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I'd be surprised if that happens after they sent them to event shop

pale yoke
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||enable kohl to produce shard|| BlitzSmile

wind otter
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UNLIMITED PULLS

wind otter
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there's a button in the planner that says promote "everything" in the planner, I clicked on it for all ops after HoshiAlter batch

pale yoke
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BPTiredofThis deadmats

wind otter
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100%

pale yoke
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I still have more than 1 page of unraised ops so I'll probably still find use for it

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But definitely not much

wind otter
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protip: you have less pages of un-raised ops if you play widescreen in 4K

pale yoke
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BPCozy i dont have that kind of setup

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google play beta dont even allow resolution change

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BPTiredofThis dont worry we getting pc client soon

wind otter
wind otter
pale yoke
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i didn't get in either SkadiDaijoubu

wind otter
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don't worry, there is always another refresh tomorrow DocSmile

pale yoke
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EyjaPray copefully

wind otter
orchid bane
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What should I farm in Path of life rr
Crystal with bad efficiency
Sugar with so many in my Depot
The almighty Kohl

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I just realize that there are a stage with rock and device tier 2 but I already do so many Device tier 3

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In this AD event

wind otter
pallid isle
jaunty notch
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no

pallid isle
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figures

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makes sense though

pale yoke
wind otter
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tru dat

pallid isle
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crystal and maybe a tiny bit of kohl is what i would do

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most of the khol is bought

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i mean its all kinda like ChenShrug

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so yeah

pale yoke
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farm red cert if all things are abundance

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actually at the point of farming outside of event might be more efficient

pallid isle
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true

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i need a lotta crystals myself though currently

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but thats just also partly because i raising random stuf at this point

pale yoke
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i haven't farm books for so long now they just come naturally overtime playing events

frank cipher
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fellow m3 enjoyer, slightly higher, doesn't farm stage unless insufficient middle training

jaunty notch
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@arctic prism perfection

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Swapped by feel only

wind otter
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no use of Conviction as dorm worker? DrudgeThink higher than Czerny, usable at least during Sui downtime, right?

wind orbit
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can i ask for update?... want to input lemuen 🥹

jaunty notch
wind otter
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I understand laziness DocSmile There is also the increased risk of forgetting to put Czerny back

jaunty notch
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and like i am already using enchilada

stoic spoke
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does the game mention the probablity of gold orders (2gold/3gold/4gold) anywhere?

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I need that for lv2 TP

pale yoke
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50% to get 2 gold, 50% to get 3 gold and 50% to get 4 gold. BPOk

stoic spoke
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but where are these numbers from

stoic spoke
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are they used because calculations all seem to fit

jaunty notch
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ratio test for different servers

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it can differ between server and creators yeah

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but the rates are in sham team

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i personally took it from prts back then

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and the numbers also matched with JP side as well

stoic spoke
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I see

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are the numbers for Lv2 TP also available?

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okay. found this on peteryr video

jaunty notch
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you can either go to peter's or prts

stoic spoke
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yeah thanks. I did check prts but it wasn't in English so decided to check that video once in case it had that probability bit, and it did

spring plover
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is +101% TP efficiency without proviso good?

arctic prism
arctic prism
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60% / 40% might be right tho

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oh pin 1 says 70/30

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but wiki says 60/40

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and zyf sheet uses 60/40

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probably is 60/40 then

stoic spoke
icy basin
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does exualter's "Every laterano operator in the same trading post +15% order acquisition efficiency" count herself?

arctic prism
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no

icy basin
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grr

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lemuen, exualter, who should the 3rd operator be?

arctic prism
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if you dont have anyone better I guess ambriel

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but if you have original exu can just use her + lemuen + whoever is your highest % after

icy basin
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this should work yea?

arctic prism
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I would head over to link 4 in pins

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you probably have something better than that

icy basin
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I've been looking at it and they didnt have exualter thats why i decided to ask haha

arctic prism
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e.g. texas lappland + jaye is better than your first 3
which also frees up og exu for lemuen and now you dont have to use exu alter who is just 30%

icy basin
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ic

arctic prism
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she caps out at 30% and at that point you might as well use a different 30% op that doesnt have the laterano only condition, there are tons of unconditional 30% ops

icy basin
arctic prism
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i mean you're not using exu alt anymore no need to use ambriel there unless you dont have anyone higher than 30%

icy basin
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think ambriel is my best one after that xd

arctic prism
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no quartz?

icy basin
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my other tp is kinda chopped

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lemme see

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just bought and e1 quartz

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replaced ambriel

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now gotta figure out tp2

arctic prism
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i assume you dont have proviso

icy basin
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i do at e0, still debating if i wanna downgrade my lv3 tp and upgrade a factory

arctic prism
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well that changes things quite a bit then

icy basin
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cuz i dont have fiametta or any of the morale refreshers

arctic prism
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can you double check the "Special" tab in link 4 and see if you have anything from there

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that's fine

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proviso is still worth it regardless of tp downgrade

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or fiametta

icy basin
arctic prism
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ok nvm then those guys are high effort

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then just workinig off of what you showed me
if you want to downgrade tp, you can do:
tp1:
texas lapp jaye
exualt lemu ambriel
tp2:
exu proviso
quartz + 30%

without tp downgrade:
tp1:
texas lapp jaye
fill up with 30%s I guess
tp2:
exu lemuen proviso
quartz + 30%s

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you might have some better ops than this too but at least with what you've shown so far that's the best we have I think

icy basin
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might take me awhile but thinking about getting vigil and e2-ing him for proviso if I downgrade too

arctic prism
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id try to get shamare team first
vigil is fine but not really game changing

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or fiametta

icy basin
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I have shamare team with e2 shamare, e0 tequila e0 bibeak

arctic prism
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oh

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that's better than your jaye team then

icy basin
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this is what I have now

arctic prism
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out of the stuff you have, your combo rankings go (best to worst):
proviso + exu + lemu
shamare team
texas lapp jae
quartz + 30%s

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definitely e2 proviso, then slowly e2 the rest of shamare team when you can afford it

icy basin
arctic prism
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npnp

small halo
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just a quick check, lemuen base skill does not stack with 2 exxusiai right?

jaunty notch
torn meteor
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lmaoooo

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tbh its a good thing hg made it 60/40, better for the provisoless and the people with proviso get plenty anyway

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like yeah lower ceiling for proviso but higher floor for everything else, without 4gold the bottleneck is gold anyway

arctic prism
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wait wut it was like an actual change? or are we memeing

small halo
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I think it was changed due to how non CN server abuses it with level 2 TP along with 252 setup

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from what I know CN mainly 243 which means their TP is level 3 anyway ChenShrug

jaunty notch
arctic prism
craggy horizon
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How much worth is building Miss Christine to E2 just to pair her with Tragodia?

arctic prism
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essentially not worth at all

torn meteor
wind orbit
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castle 3 without needing to invest do the same job

clever widget
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Quick question yall, does flametail+vivi stack with mizuki for pinus sylvestris ops?

rigid plume
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It's not Pinus anymore with Mizuki

clever widget
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Dang, ok

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Thanks

jaunty notch
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cuz yknow, one is standard and one is pinus

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they don't stack in the first place

clever widget
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Ahhhh, forgot about highmore lol

loud remnant
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if i want to do automation com

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comp

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where do I start

arctic prism
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Weedy purestream greyy alter

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Is the baseline

loud remnant
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like the automation strat

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i have all of the operators required for it

arctic prism
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If you have space for cc ops you can do eunectes in cc with lancet in pp with 0 morale too

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But only if your cc has extra space that's not being used

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But thats about it really

loud remnant
arctic prism
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Which part
The eunectes part?

loud remnant
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no like the automation comp overall

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is it worth like at all

arctic prism
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Oh yeah for sure

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Even with just the baseline on 252 weedy purestream greyy is 85% across 2 fac slots

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And greyy is best pp aside for muelsyse who is a pain in the ass to use

loud remnant
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even if you have to e2 multiple ops?

arctic prism
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Oh I mean if you're asking for return on investment the answer is always going to be no

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Except proviso

loud remnant
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like im not sure if i should be going for this or nah cause someone did reccomend it to me

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can I ask for optimal changes in my base

arctic prism
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I think if you're at the point where e2ing an op is burdensome generally the advice is going to be no when asking about e2 for base

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Sure?

wind otter
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consensus is never to promote ops to e2 for base unless they a cat

loud remnant
loud remnant
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@arctic prism How can I show my base to you

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like do i send roster or just screenshot my base

arctic prism
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uhhhh creating custom rotation is kinda a lot of work esp since I'm not you and dont know what you are and arent willing to do
id just take a look at the pinned links and try to work from there + ask for advice for things you're confused about

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pin 4 is usually a good place to start

wind otter
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I remember there was someone in here that could make rotations for you for the right price, whatever happened to that guy I wonder DrudgeThink

valid storm
loud remnant
winged hollow
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custom rotation is painful

wind otter
winged hollow
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btw don't e2 ms christine for base it doesn't worth it unless you are YUJI fan

valid storm
loud remnant
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my base is kinda trash

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except for lmd production

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im pretty sure my fac are horribles

winged hollow
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half of the base meta is limited ops kinda figure

valid storm
wind otter
winged hollow
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ask above dudes I am too lazy for that

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to me... any comp doesn't have fia is less ideal

valid storm
jaunty notch
wind otter
valid storm
wind otter
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I think I found it DrudgeThink

frank cipher
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relief knowing mujika collab eff stage got poly, need like 110 to m3 them, back to ad-3

wind otter
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I'm low on poly too but in credit shop we trust

valid storm
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And are you low on Loxic? if yes, then tomorrow we'll have a great Loxic stage

frank cipher
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low loxic n purple fr

summer kernel
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Noobies just got locked out of Pinus team. 3 members aren't pullable until the next Kernel probably. Gnosis, Sail, and mulberry too for all those big cross facility teams LappDumb

stoic spoke
pale yoke
fluid pollen
valid storm
valid storm
wind otter
tame granite
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How does training speed works?

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I mean why lappland with +30% and +35% or +65% still trains Irene for 8 hours?

tame granite
rigid plume
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Didn't Lappy has Caster only direction?

tame granite
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Casters and guards - +30%
+35% from 7 siracusans on base

rigid plume
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Ok, so Guards too.

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Fine.

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You also misses basic 5%

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From no skill and just be inside this building. Even if exhausted.

pale yoke
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if you want to min max you can do akafuyu 75 > logos before logos 5 hour timer
m2 half time > flint 75 > back to logos for 5 hour
m3 with gavter

tame granite
pale yoke
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lapter is like...not that great but if you dont have the others then just work with what you have

torn meteor
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so 6 limiteds total out of like 20 workers

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fia, pinus, automation, tequila shamare, and proviso is already way more than the 6 limiteds

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hoshialt is a direction some people take on cn and yato noirecorne is used too but its replaceable if you dont mind losing like 3% tp

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hoshialt is also not that much better than mon3tr/kaltsit but we in the riic channel like minmaxing to various degrees

jaunty notch
stoic spoke
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Exodia is still a distant dream for people that didn't collect em one by one since start

torn meteor
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truee

jaunty notch
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base combos stay gatekept to those worthy

torn meteor
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i got jumped by ling on yu banner so theres a slight chance i get exodia next sui banner

stoic spoke
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Does unleveled right side use exodia?

torn meteor
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i need dusk for casterknights eventually anyway

torn meteor
stoic spoke
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Why

torn meteor
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no PI from whisperain means rosmontis is a 30

stoic spoke
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She would still be 50%

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20 self, 20 eben

torn meteor
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ok yeah if you eben but eben isnt generally used in exodia

stoic spoke
torn meteor
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and eben himself would be what, a 29?

stoic spoke
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Put him with shamare and kirara

torn meteor
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ok yeah if you are cursing then yeah for sure, but also fuck cursing

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i dont have time for that shit

stoic spoke
jaunty notch
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you only use nothing and ling

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p much

stoic spoke
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Curse or no curse?

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Your sheet has eben

fluid pollen
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Like for HR1 purposes they don’t tend to use Ros.

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Gato is MR. scuffedworrysweat

stoic spoke
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But 50-60% ros is great no?

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With HR1

fluid pollen
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Err like with cursing?

stoic spoke
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Yes

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Tp1 - Sham, Kirara, Eben
Tp2 - Pozy, Tuye
Fac - Ros

jaunty notch
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hr 1 you get 0%

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what are you on

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oh you mean like dusk ling?

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not worth it

fluid pollen
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Err yea that’s like 20% + 20% + 10% if you wanna add Dusk? Kinda sus?

jaunty notch
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and honestly just theory max left

stoic spoke
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Yes

jaunty notch
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nope

stoic spoke
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Wdym theory I'm going to pull eben to do this

jaunty notch
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non mr means you have extra slots on fac anyway

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way better combos

fluid pollen
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Yea you lose cc slots no?

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Unless it’s just like in rot slightly better aft you math everything out it seems a little not worth it.

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That or extra CC slot you don’t need.

stoic spoke
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I feel like most are already utilized here

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50% ros is better

fluid pollen
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Gladiia!

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And then 40% Ros if you have space ig.

stoic spoke
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so 40% ros with eben

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and a free cc space without dusk

fluid pollen
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I thinks that works right. Then find + 10+% from another cc slot.

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It can’t then wtv GlaucSlug

stoic spoke
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nice

fluid pollen
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Also am skeptical about that figurino usage.

stoic spoke
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dusk can stay during mrnothing because she's +20% TP

fluid pollen
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Oh, that works yea but it’s + 15%?

stoic spoke
fluid pollen
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That’s for general?

stoic spoke
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its gold fac

fluid pollen
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Pozy…..right

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Don’t got Gladiia?

stoic spoke
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no ulpi

uncut dome
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Rerun soon go pull for base

stoic spoke
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uhh

fluid pollen
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True.

stoic spoke
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but not sure if I can do 7hr rotation

fluid pollen
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You’re alr cursing no?

stoic spoke
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I diy automated it

fluid pollen
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Oh it’s time to diy Gladiia too

stoic spoke
fluid pollen
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I js assume no doro toothink

stoic spoke
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yes

fluid pollen
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Gold workers proving they’re mostly garbo. keka

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Well for 4th fac at least.

stoic spoke
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so for Abyssal hunters, rotation needs to change to 17-7-12-17-7-12 huh

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why not 12-7-12-7

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is that because dusk goes from 12morale to 0morale in CC in 17hr

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then you fia her for the next cycle?

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smh should've done HR lv2 for exodia and kept RR lv1

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loss of 10%

fluid pollen
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Would be so nice to be rr1 hr 3 rn.

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🥹

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Wait isn’t Bubble Vulcan Ceobe very slightly better than Figurino Ceobe Verm.

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How much would you want that 1% aworrySleep

stoic spoke
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bubble vulcan bena is already running in another gold TP

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this rotation is WIP

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no bryophyta rn

fluid pollen
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Oh aight worryfarm

stoic spoke
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but, I'll add them on standby thanks BagThumbsUp

torn meteor
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also even if gladiia dies it still takes another 2-3 hours for lower quality workers to catch up to AH

stoic spoke
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If I spend pulls on Ulpi, Hoshi2 pulls will be in dangerMudrockNaruhodo

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Tragodia needed 110 so im drained rn

stoic spoke
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...but what if we get lucky?

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How bout gamble 30 pulls and then return to saving

valid storm
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No

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The church has forbidden to pull on the Ulpianus banner

stoic spoke
brittle hollow
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Half a decade of playing this game, what can I do to improve my base? LappDiemb

stoic spoke
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Nice base

stoic spoke
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Downgrade 1 dorm to lv2 and the rest dorms to lv1

brittle hollow
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It'll be really weird for a office to have 2 entrance and exits.

brittle hollow
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Do you think there's any benefit if I upgrade my factories?

valid storm
brittle hollow
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I feel like that'll only give less space for my Workshop operators when they do stuff

valid storm
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you know what

brittle hollow
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💀

valid storm
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replace one of the power plants with a factory

brittle hollow
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I cant because

brittle hollow
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Do dorm upgrades take factory energy?

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Holy shit it does exuhyperstaring

valid storm
brittle hollow
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Oops LappDiemb I blew up my fucking dorm and I dont think I had the custom layout saved.

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RIP

brittle hollow
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Wdym there's a limit?? ArthurUBastard

rare galleon
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Have you upgrade it?

brittle hollow
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Finished upgrading it 5 years ago exploding_sob

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Unless Im like missing a Control Center 6.0

rare galleon
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Need to upgrade others then.

brittle hollow
stoic spoke
valid storm
brittle hollow
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Nevermind how I just destroyed a power plant to just to swap places with my factory

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I had no idea you could do this

stoic spoke
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https://youtu.be/sBw1UW03crs?si=lfmW2q75HK8EHem6

End result facility count and levels would look like this video's end

#arknights #arknightstipsandtricks #arknightsguide #basebuilding #243 #252
Step by step guide to convert from 243 to 252 - the most productive base setup.
Video from random599 on Discord (no signs of life)
Honorable mention to @Николай_Россия1 for speeding and muting the video just so I can change my mind about it (sorry).

▶ Play video
brittle hollow
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Oh so its common that people dont actually max out their factories?

stoic spoke
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With 2 power plants and max right, some factories have to be unmaxed because there isn't enough power for max

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But that extra factory instead of a 3rd power plant is what makes it still more productive

brittle hollow
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Okay thank you for the guidance redD

stoic spoke
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For optimal teams combinations to put in the facilities, check link 4 in pins

brittle hollow
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After 5 years of garbage passive in come

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I will now have somewhat okay passive income from factories and trade post

stoic spoke
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If you have proviso, she likes lv2 trading post. So upgrade a factory to lv3

brittle hollow
stoic spoke
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Oh okay ChenRoger

urban orchid
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Update for when you able to downgrade Reception Room, Workshop, Office, and Training Room when?

valid storm
urban orchid
tight epoch
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Hey guys i just about finished the base i have 3 factories on gold exp and 2 on pure gold lemme know if im doing it right

pale yoke
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yup doing it right

gentle jewel
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is it worth to add MR workers in dorms?

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actually, let me reformulate that

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Which MR workers are worth adding to dorms (excluding Fiammetta, who's permalocked in)?

simple violet
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My base feels fine right now, but I can't help but feel it could be better.

I was hoping someone could help me? I'm 252 and hope my setup is pretty standard?

TPs: Shamare, Tequila, Bibeak/Kafka in one, Proviso, Exusiai/Terra Research Commission in the other. Fiammetta keeps these two TPs alive.

CC Group 1: Mlynar, Flametail, Viviana, Eunectes, Ascalon

CC 2: Kirin, Noir Corne, Civilight Eterna, Wis'adel, someone random

Gold Fac: Bubble, Vulcan, Bena
Gold Fac: Gravel, Thorns, Bryophyta, Spot (Gravel rests while Mlynar rests)
Gold Fac: Purestream, Weedy swap for Marcille, Ptilopsis

Exp Fac: Vermeil, Pallas, Vibe
Exp Fac: Ashlock, Wild Mane, Fartooth swaps with Conviction, Tragodia, Frostleaf

Then Mizuki + 2 is used to allow the Bubble Factory and the Vermeil Factory to rest.

The RR is Ines, Cantabile swapping right now for Vulpisfoglia, Suzu. But I'm sure I have a better option here.

Does this feel reasonable? Am I doing anything seriously wrong?

fleet wolf
jaunty notch
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like first I'd rec swapping Eun with a +2% fac if you have them, then use Eun on the random slot in CC 2 instead

simple violet
# jaunty notch right now your setup looks solid enough. The problem with optimizing even furthe...

Thanks! I think the only Ops I don't have are Dorothy, Dusk, and Chongyue. And I'm happy to raise anyone - I'm more or less out of people to raise for gameplay purposes.

The only reason I use Eun this way is that CC 1 is used through multiple rotations and CC 2 only for a single rotation while 1 rests (and because Kirin only lasts one rotation). So this is easy enough, it just means that Eun only gets one rotation, and that two slot Factory is mediocre the rest of the time.

urban orchid
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Can two Lvl 3 Factory pure gold surpass the hunger of Proviso + Mr. Nothing & ShamTeq Bibeak?

arctic prism
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two? no, likely not

urban orchid
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Welp, a shame.
Seems like need to periodically change the 3rd factory to gold then.

arctic prism
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most people with that combo stick to 3 gold fac permanently and even that leans gold negative if you're droning tp

fluid pollen
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It leans positive tho smh Cho. RosHi

arctic prism
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whaaaat thats news to me

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oh it's probably mulberry vs whisperain diff

fluid pollen
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Just need the right pieces.

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And yea that too.worrythonk

jaunty notch
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ON THE OTHER HAND, the shit you came up with is draining me dry even with perma 3 gold and occasional 4 AND droning xp

arctic prism
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ive also been running it with my rots + droning tp

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i think im -200 gold in like the past month or so

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maybe more

fluid pollen
pale yoke
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i always have to switch weedy to gold at the end of the month

fluid pollen
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My Weedy is always at gold. GlaucSlug

pale yoke
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^normal functioning human being

fluid pollen
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Somehow the minority BlobHide

pale yoke
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pretty sure majority weedy is gold

fluid pollen
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Yea

pale yoke
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like who the hell run 1 slot weedy

fluid pollen
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But you 3 curse so idk wth you guys are doing.

pale yoke
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i don't

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||lies as easy as breaths||

fluid pollen
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Smh. GlaucSlug

wind otter
torn meteor
jaunty notch
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nothing

arctic prism
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basically extreme curse

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basic idea is that tailoring actually is hurting your prod if you're cursing for an extended duration (> 5 hrs at a time)

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which enables some shit as long as you put the tailor combo back in 5 hrs before you stop cursing

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also makes it so you dont have to fia shamare

jaunty notch
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yeah i have aroma, bryo and pure working 24/7

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AND I AM STILL LOSING GOLD

pale yoke
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BPCozy same

wind otter
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gold = don't want to prioritize it but can't have enough of it

pale yoke
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Blame proviso

tame granite
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Can i swap logos now or I'll lose -50% time?

rigid plume
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Since you're doing M3, there's no reason Logos be here anymore.

wind otter
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and Logos rests for the next batch

wind otter
fringe blaze
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Not entirely sure what I'm doing to the base, and I'm currently following the 243 set-up...

But are the activity rooms actually necessary?

valid storm
stoic spoke
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glasgow, pozy, mr nothing (exodia)?

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how much is the average daily LMD with these? PtiloThonk

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90k+?

jaunty notch
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honestly it's not that much

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it's +30-40% from the normal stuff

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but you get like 75k daily with 10% drone invested in TP

queen flicker
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without cursing whats the avg lmd with best posible teams?

stoic spoke
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nice

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extra LMD is always nice Art

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75k/day is an E2 every week WarPog

stoic spoke
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with drone on TP

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zyff calculator in pins link 5 works if you want to calculate uncursed

queen flicker
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i see thanks. more or less the same as me. i'm doing shamare team + glasgow proviso with fia on shamare, tequila, proviso. can't really improve it much more other than e2ing my tailorings and getting a better sub team for glasgow downtime.

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my glasgow sub is quartz + 30% FiaDed

stoic spoke
queen flicker
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what about gold and exp? what BiS looks like? to have a reference

pale yoke
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I'm so glad they implemented the weekly 300

fleet wolf
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LappDumb 5 3 gold order in a row in the last few hrs b4 reset

queen flicker
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the calculator seems accurate

fluid pollen
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You can basically use other units with the same prod to simulate.

torn meteor
winged hollow
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nah with best possible team without cursed it's about 75k avg

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which max right btw I'm 243 MR 75k on avg

torn meteor
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oh whats your setup?

winged hollow
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exodia main lemon exu alt and sham combo 24/7

torn meteor
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wait exualt wtf

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exualt is worse than og exu

winged hollow
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(lemon+exu) for alt team

torn meteor
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ohhh

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does that beat proviso trc?

winged hollow
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yep yep

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both team with proviso

torn meteor
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oh wait level 3 tp

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yeah i was assuming level 2 tp for proviso

winged hollow
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I can switch back to 153 if necessary

torn meteor
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thatd bring down your average tho

queen flicker
winged hollow
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yeah too crowded

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but may be if I run no exp

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If I run no exp instead using mlynar I can use delphine

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so pinus out and gold vermeil in

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so I don't need vivi then

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custom rotation is pain in the butt

torn meteor
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i dont like the 75k lmd setup, maybe if your exp stockpile is overflowing but you are hurting factories a lot for it

winged hollow
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I run 153 exp like half of the year before swithc to gold 243 I don't mind

torn meteor
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also holdup 243 detected

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yeah i really dont like your setup

winged hollow
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in the surface it look like not cursed but actually very cursed to switch 153 - 243 back and forth no one do that LappKek

torn meteor
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ive seen swapping between 252 and 342 before iirc but never 153 243

torn meteor
winged hollow
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I can do pozy but it is pain to setup

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so you can call my main lmd sources are from events

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my lmd in between 4-5m never go up or down beyond that threshold

torn meteor
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i think i want to do an 8h AH setup for my off rotation but i need more AH workers

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what id do is worse than using exodia for full length then some off rotation stuff but that requires thought soooo

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and like the gap is less than 1k lmd per day

winged hollow
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AH is off rotation stuff bro

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really for only 8h?

torn meteor
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gladiia only lasts 8h with 4 smileys

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its fine id be on 16 8

winged hollow
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even worse in my alt team it only has 2 smiley

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and they can last for 36h

torn meteor
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the hit to gold production is a lil more noticeable but i can be quite lazy sometimes

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needing to care about login timings beyond once morning noon and night would be a hassle

torn meteor
urban orchid
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Do you guys use Rosmontis with Sui Exodia? It's a bit annoying to use Eben to giver her +20%. Sadly my TP is full with ShamTeq and ProvNothing

valid storm
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Yes

stoic spoke
valid storm
silver gust
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Is 243 the best I can do if everything is already maxed?

rigid plume
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A slightly better

silver gust
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What levels? I have to downgrade more with maxed right

rigid plume
# silver gust What levels? I have to downgrade more with maxed right

Dorms should have Lv1, one is Lv2 is fine due to lack of power doing someone else.

Both Powerplants are obviously Lv3.

Two Trading Posts with Lv3 and Lv2 accordingly.

And at least one Factory should have Lv3. Downgrade starting with other Lv3, should remain like one Lv3 and four Lv2 at most.

silver gust
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Should the lvl 3 be for gold?

jaunty notch
silver gust
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Actually able to get 3x lvl 3

stoic spoke
summer kernel
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I'm buying out the shop on BP-5 to refill my crystals then moving to red certs but BP-4 is good too. 1-7 is 1.5x the amount of rocks as BP-4

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When you partially skip the shop, do you guys just go by the least sanity/currency order? That would be EXP or the furniture for Intel certs for this shop but I really don't want to skip either those SkadiDaijoubu

stoic spoke
summer kernel
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The 1.5x is by rock drop rates on Penguin stats. Probably slightly worse for BP-4 if you include T1 rocks (and devices if AO farming).
But if by efficiency calc sheet, BP-4 would be way better until you clear the shop

valid storm
frank cipher
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hoshi2 m6,haruka m3,JKx5 M3

pale yoke
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Time to farm bp7 I guess

torn meteor
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which event is BP again?

rigid plume
torn meteor
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i see

jaunty notch
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hoping you'd know

rigid plume
jaunty notch
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which is?

rigid plume
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Here's your BP

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Also PL is occupied by Vignette event already.

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Preluding Lights

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So it had to be changed anyway.

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Funny enough, in CN it also written Path of Life too.

pale yoke
stoic spoke
fleet wolf
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RedOmegaLul ditched shamare entirely what is sleep snyway

stoic spoke
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base dalao (大佬)

torn meteor
fleet wolf
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u get 1hr 20 naps per order if ur unlucky SkadiDaijoubu

fleet wolf
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DocSmile i can for the whole december not that busy at work during that month

pale yoke
west tapir
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The mlynar + 4 happy icons combo is kinda biased towards races.
Mlynar: "you are done when i say you are done"

winged hollow
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if it's the true then I can ditch her too, I mean timing her with fia is tedious

round lichen
fleet wolf
stoic spoke
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umm how?

winged hollow
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is it worth it if I replace Mlynar with Lee?

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pulling for siege alt for base is the worst decision of my life

round lichen
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Clues aren’t valuable, but if you aren’t running especially tight rotations then Młynar might not be giving you much value either

round lichen
# stoic spoke umm how?

Gladiia’s morale drain gains +0.5 per AH outside of dorms. So Ulpian + Andreana + Skadi + Specter + herself = +2.5 MD.
Lv 5 CC inherently gives -0.25 MD, and Gladiia’s skill gives -0.05 MD, so the final total is +2.2 MD. 24/3.2 = 7.5 hours she can work. If you add smilies, you can change the denominator slightly (e.g. with Młynar and Mon3tr, it would be 24/3.1 = ~7.74 hours)

Now if we consider an 8 hour shift, what is the average productivity of an AH worker? For 7.5 hours they will give 40%, then for 0.5 hours they will give 0%. Divide by 8 hours to get the average: 40 x (7.5/8) = 37.5. If we do 2 smilies, the average is 40 x (7.74/8) = 38.7. For 3 smilies, it’s 39.3. Once you put 4 smilies, she works exactly 8 hours so you get 40

stoic spoke
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oh, so it was the average

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cool

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is it a good idea to do a separate 7hr swap-in swap-out routine for gladiia gang, while the rest of the base operates in their usual 12hr rotations ?

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or does there exist a more efficient way to utilize them? PtiloThonk

round lichen
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If you’re able to remember to do so, then yes

stoic spoke
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but how do I write that routine on a speadsheet

wind otter
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base upgrades DocSmile

summer kernel
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Too lazy to think: just going to buy out the store and do all the missions. I know people skip the EX stages but I'll need the currency to buy out the store before I go to red certs or the rock mines FiaDed

torn meteor
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praying MH collab reruns, i want to run yatoalt noirecornealt kroosalt flametail in my gladiia rot, its not exactly optimal but i dont have enough good cc workers anyway

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let alone good cc workers with smileys

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best i can do is mon3tr flametail

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once viviana jumps me im prob best running mon3tr flametail viviana and like amiya, but like i wouldnt try for viviana unlike yatoalt

pale yoke
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0% is better than 90% ReedBean

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In 9cd I always trust

wind otter
pale yoke
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BPTiredofThis should i start researching on base now when it's out of beta next year?

wind otter
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are you drunk?

pale yoke
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we have a date when base fully release already

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actually nvm apparently there's different source saying different date lol

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some say jan some say mar

wind otter
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is this endfield joke?

pale yoke
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yea

wind otter
pale yoke
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is a base is only out when we in endfield

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joke

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because it's true

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have you went to visit for credit and loadout just slow because whoever you visiting decided it's a good idea to fully packed their reception room with animated furniture? uWu

wind otter
pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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does the automation keep working even when you went offline?

pale yoke
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we need to make a zyf hating fanclub

wind otter
wind otter
pale yoke
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what can i say, it's an endearing kind of hate

wind otter
pale yoke
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the real person i hate is the one who try to speak with authority but don't even know that arknight is a mobile game. now that's a real dumb person

wind otter
pale yoke
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might sound absurd but trust me there's at least 2 person like that

uncut dome
uncut dome
wind otter
pale yoke
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ireneburg just someone who used to hangout here

pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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beats me

wind otter
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who is it? DocSmile

pale yoke
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they know who they are DocSmile i rather they self identify. if i saw "blocked message" then i know they are here

fluid pollen
fluid pollen
pale yoke
wind otter
fluid pollen
orchid bane
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Zyf so cute, don't hate zyf

eternal gyro
#

Hey2, generally speakimg, which op worth stamina swappimg with fiametta, besides proviso?

pale yoke
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but most importantly find the right ops according to your own rotation

orchid bane
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chestnut

pale yoke
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5 years in and ao farming becoming more common

wind otter
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It's the economy

pale yoke
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we all know whose fault it is

wind otter
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climate change? the underpants gnomes? DrudgeThink

fallen zenith
#

I've heard of this combo but ignored it since I don't get it??? Is it just that it has the crazy capacity? Why should that be prioritized over productivity?

west tapir
#

Mlynar e2 + 4 happy icons has to be one of the best comps for Control center.

wind otter
oblique swan
#

i dont need to e2 weedy for her base skill right?

fallen zenith
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Ah I must have read the skills wrong

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Thanks

wind otter
oblique swan
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i think i can wait for 10% efficiency

fallen zenith
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(And deleted empty 3rd preset on fac 3)

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I have the morale TP team as backup

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And it gets shifted around so I'll have penguin squad in either when the first is resting

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Deleted fac 1 formation 2, oops meant to after changing product. Replaced Aroma with Steward.

stoic spoke
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cursing is giving extra 15k LMD (day1 uncursed, day2 & day3 cursed)

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Gold and LMD are perfectly balanced WarPog

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but it's not using bryo, rosmo and abyssal team yet PtiloThonk

round lichen
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@fallen zenith Once you E2 your Bryo, put him + Gravel Thornstar in Fac 1 and move Weedy Purestream to the Lv 2 gold Fac. Eunectes is only a 30%, up to you if you want to use her in CC with dead Lancet or just not bother

fallen zenith
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Woah nice yeah just learning if the newer base skills

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Ok noted

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Thanks

round lichen
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Yw

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Don’t use Exu alt, Lemuen prefers normal Exu

fallen zenith
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Ahh

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122% wild

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Yeah I'll level Bryo soon

fervent heath
#

so my gold produce is now a lot lower than my lmd produce, I wanna know aside from e2 bryo, what can be done for better gold produce?

If I am missing some crucial base worker or team, lmk https://www.krooster.com/u/ice

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Yes Ik there is the option to not drone proviso but I need lmd

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So droning helps a lo

stoic spoke
round lichen
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Raise your Greyy2 and Eunectes, do dead Lancet to supercharge Weedy and Purestream

fervent heath
round lichen
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Greyy is IS5 meta anyways

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And Eunectes eats Uproar for breakfast in VB

fervent heath
#

what's VB

round lichen
#

Vector Breakthrough

fervent heath
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vector Breakthrough is the easiest thing in this game so building for it seems kinda weird

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But Thankyou anyways

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I did see the combo in base sheet myself

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145% gold

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bryo + that I can prolly breakeven

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it might give me leeway to use underflow with prov and e2 bibeak

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even more lmd

pale yoke
#

ThornsNani 145 bryo???

fervent heath
pale yoke
fervent heath
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when did I say bryo is 145%

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bryo e2 will give 15% more tho

stoic spoke
fervent heath
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oh wait that will be less than 145%

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but is still something

stoic spoke
#

how much is your current total gold %

fervent heath
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I am not in game rn

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lemme open

stoic spoke
#

the pins link 5 calculator will be better for estimating daily gain/loss

pale yoke
# stoic spoke
  • meanwhile i find myself in dire need of xp and abundance of lmd
stoic spoke
pale yoke
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in the end 153 is the ultimate base smh

stoic spoke
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162 for 210% pozy tuye

pale yoke
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i wish i can 6 fac

fervent heath
fervent heath
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omg I need pc for this

stoic spoke
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fill operators and rotations, and it shows at the bottom your daily summary

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along with gold gain/loss when droning different things

fervent heath
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I wish we could just see numbers in game

stoic spoke
fervent heath
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this is what it says, for bryo team +15% with e2

and for weedy if I e2 eun and greyy, it's gonna be +43% if I am not wrong

stoic spoke
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hard to estimate this way

stoic spoke
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when you have a pc

stoic spoke
fervent heath
stoic spoke
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thank zyf not me

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waiting for his calculator update

fallen zenith
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Had enough to E2 after some crafting 👍

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I'll try dead Lancet out

orchid bane
stoic spoke
rigid plume
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Cannot build proper setup

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Where Trag, Monsta

stoic spoke
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substitute with same value skills

rigid plume
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Bruh

valid storm
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Don't argue, I'll halve her, so both of you can have some

rigid plume
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fix your sheet

stoic spoke
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aroma

rigid plume
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TP

stoic spoke
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vigil

rigid plume
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40%

stoic spoke
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f