#r-i-i-c

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little ledge
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my 252 is currently 1 gold 4 exp

rigid plume
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E2 is juicy omomom

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Should be 2 Gold, 2 EXP, 1 flex depending how is your gold.

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For you maybe 3 Gold, 2 EXP

little ledge
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Currently i'm having surplus with only 1 gold

rigid plume
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If you sure Gold won't run out, 3 EXP then

little ledge
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As i said,4 exp

rigid plume
little ledge
rigid plume
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When you're on 50-100, then switch to 3-2 or 2-3.

little ledge
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Noted

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All my tp are currently lvl 2 btw

rigid plume
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One to Lv3, if you wish to.

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Leave one on Lv2 for Proviso.

little ledge
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Who to fill the next lvl 3?

rigid plume
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Shamare+Tequila+any Higher Order increase (preferably without Mitm E2, if E0 - you can use him, else use on other shift).

little ledge
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Ahh yes shamare team
I need to pick tequila and grind

crude badge
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Hey guys, is Ambriel the best partner for exu alt and lemuen in base tp?

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Exu alt increases 15% eff for every laterano ally in the same tp (upto 30%)
Lemuen increases by 45%
Ambriel increases by 30%

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So it's 105% eff.

orchid bane
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Lemuen and exu the original one

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80%

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Best you can get

pale yoke
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exu alter is effectively just 30% 🚼

orchid bane
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Why did they make her skill so bad

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30% in 2025 ?

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Any change for improvement in the future?

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orchid bane
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orchid bane
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New baseskill improve the old one happen alot

crude badge
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Oh, I misunderstood your question

orchid bane
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Best example must be tequila improve Shamere skill

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There was a time when we only have Shamere there

pale yoke
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the way she is now, even if we have 3 other her same skill affecting one another, still effectively 30% 🚼

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we actually have a template like dorothy that have a similar but better skill design, how did we actually went backward WarLaugh

orchid bane
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Lemu + exu2 + new laterano

pale yoke
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in order to cover exu2 shortcoming that new laterano need to be at least 50%

orchid bane
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Also special interact with exu2 somehow

pale yoke
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Yup

orchid bane
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Or exu1 still beat her lul

pale yoke
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Basically need to be tailor to fix her

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Bend into pretzel to cope

orchid bane
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A reminder that probably noone ask

finite magnet
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thanks alot 😄

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rapid dune
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Is this worth doing the lvl 1 office and stuff

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The bot gives

leaden grove
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Yes

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That’s why the bot gives it

wise shale
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Exu2 base skill says that it recovers 0.55 to all ops sounds cracked, but after testing it only applies to just one other operator.

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Exu2 recovery skill is the same archetype as Santalla's.

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EN typo strikes again

jaunty notch
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yeah exu, santalla and tomimi all had the same local problem

orchid bane
spare pivot
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IstinaThink ngl the sanity potions from the monthly pass really makes me wanna buy one next month

orchid bane
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Not now ?

orchid bane
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The 4 or 5 ||or 6|| digit ID code

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Just keep your name and go

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wise shale
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wise shale
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That actually make sense.

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wise shale
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Because sanpot expires. Bnuuy

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wise shale
little ledge
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# wise shale <:AmiyaCry:688522656819183645>

SkadiDaijoubu I think you'll have 3-4days left when the event start for the sanity potions from the pass, but yeah. It'll be used to farm points for the event. I kinda wanna see until last daay of mass travel event to see if I can fully buy out the shop or not, if I need about 2-3potions then I'll use em

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also we hve this rmbr

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This gives 120 sanity

stone snow
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i reinstalled the game after months, and i'm confused about what should be the new base design?

fresh seal
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In my base 252, should I use the drones in the TP with the best passives or spend on both?

hexed crystal
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is this correct?

valid storm
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Yes

hexed crystal
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is there an up to date guide on originium set up and best operators for it?

summer kernel
hexed crystal
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thank you

torn meteor
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mizuki is also a 35 paired with chestnut if you want to gap fill a staggered thing

wind otter
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we need more trainers people, keep 'em coming, you know what i'm sayin'

arctic prism
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trainers?

wind otter
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yes

arctic prism
wind otter
arctic prism
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playable pope when

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thats the only guy i can imagine with smth like that lmao

wind otter
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if Pope intends to become playable he better hurry up before we get the DevilMayCry collab

jaunty notch
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you really can just wish for another nothing or proviso and be done with it

rotund token
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are there any operators worth locking in dorms? also, what are some good presets?

rotund token
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is there a tool for creating good rotations based off of operator list?

jaunty notch
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no

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there are tools that run on calories only

arctic prism
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yea lol the issue is it's too much of a pain to make and maintain + the fact that the people who know the calculations well enough to make such a tool have no need for it since they already have their rotations set

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ig one benefit would be instead of telling people link 4 in pins we'd be linking that tool all day here and have to answer questions on how to use it instead of whatever we're doing rn lol

jaunty notch
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not to mention the sheer matrix of composing one's roster

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reminds me of a client once

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mans had all 6* e2d

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but no 5* e2 and refuses to raise them

arctic prism
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yeah that too

jaunty notch
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take that into account and you'd have a server on par with chatgpt

arctic prism
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some people are fixated on the weirdest things ChenShrug

jaunty notch
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though if AI was actually smart, I could have ported the entire sheet up there ages ago

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but noooooo, you only take information from REDDIT and other dumbass sources

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bitch really gave me bibeak kafka myrtle as a meta TP combo

arctic prism
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yea i also thought of using ai but for it to work you'd either have to train your own or wait until it's actually smart

jaunty notch
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b-but a reddit post from 2020 said that it was good

arctic prism
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tbh thinking about it, if you train some ai off of this channel's chat history + the resources we normally link (somehow) it'll probably improve 90% of the playerbase's base schedules

jaunty notch
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maybe not chat history

arctic prism
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lol im hoping the amount of actually good advice outweighs the bad

jaunty notch
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this place as much as people believe is not a good reference

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as always you just take the info from a handful of experts

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instead of having the ai learn from a dumb question mistaken as a statement because the person asking forgot to put a question mark on it

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I'd rather it learn from 3 people than making a heavy filter from scatch to get rid of lines from 3000 idiots

arctic prism
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lol that's fair

wind otter
worthy dune
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would u purchase fiametta with gold certs just for base?

arctic prism
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if you have other motivations behind buying that's a different story

clear steppe
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so im using 252 rn, and im tryna farm orundum, my guess it 1 tp to orundum business and 2 factory to make orundum shard? or just 1 factory enough?

leaden grove
clear steppe
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yeah i got like 1.5k rock atm

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can i just keep proviso for lmd? kinda lazy to change base to 342 ngl

wind otter
wind otter
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E0 for like two years until I promoted her 3 weeks ago HellaKek

arctic prism
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Lol yea if you're asking as a base maxer what i would do then I'd buy
But it's advice I wouldn't give other people lmao

wind otter
worthy dune
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long term strat would be wait for the game give free rank ups

jaunty notch
wind otter
rotund token
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so if i send here can I get some advice?

clear steppe
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does TP passive include herself? meaning i can get 125% efficiency with lemuen and Exu1?

clear steppe
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damn

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she kinda ass then

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imma just use lapp exu1 and texas for orundum farm tp

wind otter
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"kinda ass" is all the words you find on the white board in the HG offices when they brainstorm base skills

clear steppe
jaunty notch
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yeah i bought the 6* transfer for kal, eun, mizuki and archetto

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actually passenger too maybe

jaunty notch
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all base slaves

spare pivot
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Damn

wind otter
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Exu2 going hard BlitzSmile

jaunty notch
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man i wanted to use arene but at the same time he's so ass

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atp in the game i probably should just stop giving a shit about byproduct rates

wind otter
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you are using Fia on Nian. right? you won't have a need for Arene as long as you craft beforehand I think

inner ocean
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What's the sanity value comparison of using 9CD's charges on T2 chip swap vs crafting a T4 mat

frank cipher
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cheapest t3 mat rock cost 62 sanity, t2 chip well

inner ocean
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only 36

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hmmmm

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so in my POV, it's mat stockpile farmed from events (or more 1-7 for roccs) vs farming more chip stages

wind otter
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people, next year during Anniversary when the next survey is up and you make your write-in requests, remember to mention that you played and enjoyed Stella Sora and even bought the monthly pass

wind otter
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some people just don't have what it takes to do what is necessary

inner ocean
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i'd rather keep requesting for Artbook #1 to have more stocks

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even if impossible

wind otter
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"Hi, Yostar, could you please restock Artbook #1? I played and loved the shit out of Stella Sora btw, thanks!" <==== like that

valid storm
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so just add a "pls collab" to it

inner ocean
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never ever be subtle in a feedback survey

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although good luck conveying that dream from Yostar -> HG

wind otter
inner ocean
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a goddamn fruitful conversation, this was

frank cipher
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yes Hydrogen bomb vs Coughing baby collab

pale yoke
wind otter
valid storm
rotund token
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is it fine to have 2 presets if i check every 12 hours? and if so should I not use e0 jaye?

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and maybe prioritize capacity more in fac

frank cipher
rotund token
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highest percent what?

frank cipher
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Yes

wind otter
inner ocean
wind otter
# valid storm then why tf are you talking about it?

Stella Sora = newly released gacha game developed and published by Yostar
has a bit of a rough start with flamed reception
apparently the situation has escalated to Yostar deleting comments in the official Discord
so Yostar may need some words of encouragement
limited event survey provides chance to praise Stella Sora
insert Arknights suggestions hoping Stella glazing can help suggestion slid by
laugh because Yostar only AK publisher so all suggestions are pretty much useless to begin with

inner ocean
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NGL I want Yostar to fall just so HG does not have contractual restrictions with AK now that HG can self-publicize

valid storm
valid storm
inner ocean
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it's also impossible to make a clean transition

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especially when accts are bound to Yostar

valid storm
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migration isn't impossible

pale yoke
wind otter
valid storm
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but more expensive than the other oyster games

pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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|| well, maybe not for the new genshit crazy skin system now but in terms of gacha to gacha ||

inner ocean
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trash system is trash system. only players that do 4+ gachas at the same time bother with price comparisons

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what truly matters is

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gameplay

pale yoke
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turd sandwich vs giant douch

inner ocean
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the moment you think more about the units and collection aspect than the gameplay....you've lost the sauce

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you know the gameplay is shit? why are you playing it?

pale yoke
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☝ đŸ€“ in terms of gameplay have you guys heard of the game Arknight? that game is great and have many creative gamemode

inner ocean
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my dude, AK's my only gacha and i wish it wasnt a gacha

pale yoke
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amazing gameplay that i'd argue the best gacha available right now

inner ocean
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because i get no satisfaction in pulls ever

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i just love the content. Best TD for me.

pale yoke
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i love the game base system especially

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eventhough it's almost 7 years now, the base system still stand on its own

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truly remarkable

wind otter
inner ocean
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the base is a bonus. i wouldn't be doing the base as a standalone

pale yoke
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if it wasn't so great they would've change and let it out of beta now

inner ocean
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....

pale yoke
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but instead they just remove the beta tag

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truly revolutionary

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i love arknight

rotund token
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does kirin R yato count as an alternate operator for kroos alter?

inner ocean
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we waited YEARS for a room that improves trust EXP

inner ocean
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i do that combo myself

jaunty notch
rotund token
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i'm on it

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i'm missing key pieces of most combos :(

pale yoke
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another victim of kernel banner? BPCozy

rotund token
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wdym?

pale yoke
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some older unit with best base skill are on kernel banner only

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say shamare

rotund token
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i played before kernel banner was a thing and just came back

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shamare is the only 5* im missing from it lolol

pale yoke
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oh cool

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đŸ«” WarLaugh

jaunty notch
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jan should give a free 5* selector

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or just buy from shop

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she's good regardless anyway

vernal moss
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guys if i dont have any of tequila's best tp partners is it better to use him with normal efficiency boost workers or just not use him at all

jaunty notch
wind otter
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||Endfield is real||

pale yoke
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SkadiDaijoubu shadow drop in 10 min

wind otter
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the time is now ||or tomorrow||

pale yoke
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finally a real base

wind otter
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real base is ak though, endfield base is so barebones blackgato said it doesn't deserve a spreadsheet

pale yoke
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truth be told idk about endfield base, i never got into any of the beta

wind otter
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"coming soon" RedOmegaLul

pale yoke
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đŸ€“ okay we can just wait for dalao to make base blueprint

queen flicker
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currently droning tp, but when i'm low on gold, should i swap one exp fac to gold or drone gold for a while?

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left pic is 2 exp 3 gold and right pic is 3 exp 2 gold, both droning tp

frank cipher
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left pretty balanced, 43 exp is too much(maybe not if not m3/mod)

pale yoke
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right is definitely gold deficit

vernal moss
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guys is totter supposed to be used at e0 or e1

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i dont understand his skills lol

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like is e1 just to stop his productivity from going below +10% or what

jaunty notch
vernal moss
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aight then thx

trim estuary
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finally got around to E2ing Pallas after a few months since getting her and

wind otter
old bison
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these teams suck LappDumb

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the ones in pins

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need some obscure ops to not only be present but be e2

leaden grove
old bison
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im reading the teams guide and i am weeping SkadiDaijoubu

leaden grove
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And you have proviso and shamare both e2

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So like

old bison
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well now i need to make up a whole bunch of 2 person factory teams SkadiDaijoubu

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i wonder if the bonuses even matter at that point, just have to keep things running somehow

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my automation team sucks now too

old bison
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i mean assign whatever ops to factories just so they dont stand around doing nothing

frank cipher
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yes hit 100k daily n just keep them running

leaden grove
leaden grove
old bison
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it also means i have to log in more than once a day SkadiDaijoubu

leaden grove
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I mean he kinda sucked tho

old bison
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5% is shit ik

leaden grove
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That explains it

old bison
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yeah im sorry im not an arknights addict that monitors my base 24/7

leaden grove
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🙄

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All this talk about wanting better numbers

old bison
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243 was better for once a day base shift SkadiDaijoubu

leaden grove
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Well sure, since it’s just bad, rather than unusable

old bison
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whatever bro

leaden grove
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You never mentioned that, and I asked you a few times to give as much context as you could

old bison
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how often do you check your base then?

leaden grove
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2x a day is more than enough

old bison
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yeah cuz takes fucking 12 hours for ops to rest

leaden grove
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Rotate workers and collect , every 12 hours. Set up your presets, and never think about it again

leaden grove
old bison
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it wasn't
altho 243 has more work slots than dorms have rest slots and sometimes i do mass crafting and have like 10 more ops to rest

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either way im gonna have to come up with new teams, and i dont think i can achieve 80% anywhere with 2 ops

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besides automation team ig

leaden grove
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With good rotations you won’t need all dorm slots

leaden grove
old bison
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i know, i just have to sort them all again into presets

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jaye team working at 102% efficiency and still not enough lmd SkadiDaijoubu

leaden grove
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Well you would only want to use that if shamare team is resting

old bison
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yeah they are on rotation in my lvl 3 tp

leaden grove
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Which they wouldn’t be, ideally, if you have fiametta

old bison
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i dont

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you see, this is why im talking about obscure ops that make or break base team comps

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like... greyy fucking alter

leaden grove
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I wouldn’t call her obscure but I get you

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Damn no GreyyđŸ„€

old bison
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yep, who even has greyy alter

leaden grove
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I mean he’s been out for a few years now

old bison
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too bad i haven't pulled him once

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i dont even know whos banner he was on

leaden grove
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Btw new automation worker on cn who is better than passenger, coming in a few months that works really well with 252

leaden grove
old bison
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oh yeah i didn't pull dorothy

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you mean snegurochka?

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well that will be later

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i suppose with more freed up slots i can lock some dorm skill ops into my dorms

leaden grove
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It won’t make much of a different either way

old bison
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will see

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in case i do some mass crafting again

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i once ran through all my general crafting bonus ops

leaden grove
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Well yeah that will do it

simple violet
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Battle Record production feels low here, but I'm not sure. Is there anything else I should be concerned about?

arctic prism
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if you're running 2 xp factories without droning xp (which it looks like you are from the screen shot), that number is normal

ornate saffron
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Hello, I'm still on my way of creating an optimal base for myself. The goal is to have no more than 2 teams for each facility while still keeping it optimal. I created this sheet to show what's my current unit placements. As you can see I still have some questions about what should my second CC squad be and what units should I do for my second lvl 3 factory since I just upgraded it (cause of TP lvl reduce). Any recommendations considering I have most of the units would be much appreciated

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@arctic prism your opinion would mean a lot since you helped me the first time

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Forgot to add that Fac1 is EXP, Fac2 is EXP, Fac3 is gold, Fac4 is gold and Fac5 is gold

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Should I just go for Mlynar squad as a second CC squad?

arctic prism
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minimalist doesnt work in 252, only works in 243 or 153

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remind me, who were you missing again?

ornate saffron
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noted, I still thinking between exp, exp, gold, gold, gold or exp, gold, exp, gold, gold setups, so I don't know if I should replace minimalist squad with the one for exp or gold

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I need to test if I have enough gold for new TPs

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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hmm there's quite a lot I'd edit from your screenshot

ornate saffron
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I can try to share my placements on tiermaker if that would be easier for you

arctic prism
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it's usually a good idea to run waaifu with aroma since aroma dies fast without her
Also with those tps +mulberry you're probably going to be losing gold (if you drone tp especially) with 2 xp 3 gold factories, so it's probably not a bad idea to use one of the lv 3 tps as gold, esp since bryophyta scales well with it

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also if you have weedy built + greyy alter, weedy would be best paired with purestream there with greyy alter in a pp at the same time

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also if you're only missing viviana from the pinus knights combo, they're still fine to use without viviana- it'll give you 3 more 35% exp workers

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with minimal changes from what you have currently, I'd change your current factory line up to this:

  1. (exp) vermeil combo / pinus trio (flametail in cc)
  2. (gold) bryophyta, gravel, haze / mizuki, perfumer, any standard 25%
  3. (exp) rosmontis, feater / conviction, crownslayer
  4. (gold) aroma, waaifu / dorothy, silence alt
  5. (gold) purestream, weedy (greyy alt in pp) / marcille, spot
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if no weedy/greyy alt, just swap her out with mayer or some other 30%

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and if no pinus knights, the other 30% exp workers work as well like vigna castle shirayuki, frostleaf

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also btw shu doesnt do anything for you in the dorm so can take her out

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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also for your cc shifts, amiya and ascalon don't stack
should separate them across the two shifts

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flametail in cc, wildmane, ashlock, fartooth in exp factory

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viviana makes them better but just on their own is still 35% workers

ornate saffron
jaunty notch
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Just slowly scroll down special tab

arctic prism
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can do dead lancet if you need the gold production

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you have excess cc slots anyways so it's probably a good idea

ornate saffron
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so smth like this?

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Last question what will be my second CC squad?

arctic prism
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do you have kaltsit or mon3tr or the monster hunter collab units?

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also flametail needs to be on the same shift as wildmane/ashlock

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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and justice knight isnt a factory worker, needs to fartooth

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my bad typo last time

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if so, then can do
dusk ling cy ascalon eunectes / flametail, noir corne alt, yato alt, I guess mlynar and a smiley

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then swap out vigil for the monster hunter cats in your second tp shift

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or if you dont have those guys raised, can just keep vigil there and do amiya + kaltsit or mon3tr instead of the monster hunter collab people

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it's basically the same

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oh also with eunectes need to change out liskarm with dead lancet

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actually another thing you can do now that I think about it is use jessica alt in your cc (replace smiley) and swap out perfumer with regular jessica

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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it's a 1% tp buff lmao

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for the cost of having to e2 noir corne alt

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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yea

ornate saffron
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ok I'll use them then

ornate saffron
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mon3tr is also a smiley

arctic prism
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kaltsit and mon3tr don't stack so just do mon3tr

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for your last slot if you have jessica alt you can use her

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and swap out perfumer with regular jessica

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if not any other regular smiley will do

ornate saffron
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I do have them

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so this is the final result?

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oh I forgot Lancet it feels like

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swap with Liskarm?

arctic prism
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yeye

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outside of swapping liskarm with lancet (needs to be 0 morale) looks good to me
but also one word of warning for jess alt specifically, she's gonna be the first one to get replaced from your cc when you end up getting like viviana for example so it's up to you if you still want to e2 her just for that (in case you dont have her raised yet)

ornate saffron
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it will be pain in the ass to swap lancet manually for her to not go in dormitory every time 😭

arctic prism
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lol yeah
if that's too much of a pain you can swap out eunectes with kaltsit in your cc and keep liskarm there

ornate saffron
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Grey alter will be fine without lancet?

arctic prism
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yep

ornate saffron
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Ye I'll do that then, I still need to practice Fiammetta swaps

ornate saffron
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My regular Jess is E0 💀

arctic prism
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lol that's fine shes works the same at e0

ornate saffron
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oh cool

jaunty notch
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there are sample rots you can take a look at too

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info

ornate saffron
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anyway, thank you so much for helping me out again! I'll share my results in the future

arctic prism
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npnp

arctic prism
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unless we have that already too

jaunty notch
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if no stagger then just look at the teams really

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2 presets still lets you stagger entire teams

ornate saffron
arctic prism
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ye i think thats more or less what he tried

jaunty notch
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better late than never

strange sorrel
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?

orchid bane
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-# 5 lv3 TP fully cursed

fluid pollen
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Sounds like stupid stuff

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đŸ„č

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Vinci avgs 65k iirc, max left 252 with Pozy without curse or droning?

arctic prism
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yea are we talking with curse?

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bc then it's like

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for MR calcs do we do 2 lv2 tps

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lmao

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mr nothing kirara pozy tuye?

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shouldnt be difficult to calc

arctic prism
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oh wait he asked specifically for lmd/day then yeah 5 lv3 tps cursed lmao

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was thinking maximum base total output

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but does 5 tp fall under "stupid stuff"?

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and also by "theoretical max" are we talking like including rng being in your favor and hitting only 2 gold orders the whole day...? bc thats a whole diff calculation

fluid pollen
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Guy was prolly just asking for avg max?

arctic prism
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Someone can correct if im wrong but theoretical max max is 243200 lmao

frank cipher
#

yup more or less, got 238000

arctic prism
#

522, 5 lv3 tps, lv 3 RR, have to hit all 2 gold order rng, cursed proviso
Cc: dusk(<12), ling (>12), cy, amiya, delphine
Tps:
Mr nothing, vigil, hoederer
Glasgow
Jaye(e0) tex lapp
Underflow exu lem
Pozy team (3 2gold)

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Is where I ended up

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Oh dusk cant live 24 hrs tho so prob less

uncut dome
#

How are you getting 3 gold

arctic prism
#

Oh myb

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Should be 2

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Then calc is off

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Lmao

frank cipher
#

same same

uncut dome
#

Should be using Gnosis

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Split Ling and Dusk

arctic prism
#

Can fia ling but yea after dusk dies prob replace with gnosis

uncut dome
#

Just split no need to Fia

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Gnosis with E0 Jaye while cursing is huge

arctic prism
#

Oh right Jaye e0

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U right

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Lmao I need more sleep somehow keep forgetting stuff I literally told myself minutes ago

fluid pollen
#

Oop having fun with math?

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😼

arctic prism
#

More or less yea

fluid pollen
wind otter
#

I have a good feeling about this new batch of base ops in CN, I think they have a chance to be the best thing to happen to base since functional elevators

fluid pollen
uncut dome
wise shale
#

Wish modules also improve base skills

outer oyster
#

Endfield Eyja TP skill ExuStare

dull python
#

excuse me

#

what is this cope

leaden grove
#

its not cope

#

just trying to be thorough

wise shale
rigid plume
#

Nova will live

#

Trust

orchid bane
#

Can SA2 buff this ?

rigid plume
orchid bane
#

He buff 30% TP to full Karlan TP if I read correctly

rigid plume
#

oof

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That's brutal

#

Gonna return to Karlan back again

orchid bane
wind otter
#

each trading

leaden grove
orchid bane
#

So bad

wind otter
#
  • 10%
rigid plume
#

It's 333 buff

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Nvm

#

They did dirty again

wind otter
#

SilverAlter is insane ExuHyperStare

frank cipher
#

sa2 in cc? 2 cc op to kick shama?

orchid bane
#

Bad dongheokhi

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Gnosis alone do better

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Good thing here is

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-# ||he is so skipable now||

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Even if he has a good partner

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In a year

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He still 10% TP with 1 CC slot , hard to be 20%

wind otter
tidal cobalt
#

Want to confirm if logic is logicing.

For example
You have teams A and B for TP,
Team A expends all morale and goes to dorm, then Team B goes in TP.
Once Team A finishes refreshing morale, do you put them back to TP regardless of Team B morale?

Thanks, and sorry if i butchered the explanation

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Also team A > team B proficiency wise.

wind otter
flat quail
#

What's the best base setup for exp focused? 153? I have like 10m more lmd than I think I can reasonably use

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Or I guess how can I increase exp production without a wasted slot in 252?

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I haven't kept up with base meta stuff in a long while but I'm at like 15m lmd and dont see myself using it when my exp is so low

summer kernel
#

no meta ops right? AstgenneAlt-Dorothy-Vermeil has a better 12hr avg than the current listed vermeil gold team but who even uses that?

inner ocean
#

why the fuck is SAlter's M3 VG skill only totalling to 80%?

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the hell is this

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is this his tax for not dedicating all his base skills in TR?

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finally read everyone. Ehhhh, that means I'm still gonna be using my usual layout.

inner ocean
#

BTW does Coldshot's "ST" morale "read" Fiammetta as a target?

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I was thinking if Fia and the actual target you want to heal is in 1 dorm, would it turn her into AoE?

inner ocean
#

that doesn't answer my question

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all I'm seeing is 1 actual target

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and Coldshot overriding Saileach's ST

wind otter
#

oh wait, give me a sec

loud remnant
#

would anyone here be kind enough to handhold me with my base

wind otter
frank cipher
#

it's fia making cold

wind otter
#

results are still subpar

jaunty notch
inner ocean
#

fuck

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so that means just for Coldshot to do her thing I really have to have only 1 tired operator for the entire dorm

wind otter
#

if that worked on Fiammetta that would only be a bug waiting for a patch HellaKek we can't have nice things

jaunty notch
#

well coldshot counts resting ops

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fiam just chills in her own style

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just put them in different dorms

wind otter
#

this is the way

jaunty notch
#

sail is useless here

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put a rhine or sth

wind otter
#

no rhine shift atm DocSmile

jaunty notch
#

don't tell me you lock ops everytime a shift changes

wind otter
#

the locks are already there

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it's become a habit at this point HellaKek

inner ocean
#

i do have some shifts that lead me to having 1 single dorm only have Fia and no other tired ops

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i always isolate her just to make morale-swapping easier

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Either way, that just means I might not prio Coldshot raising if I am raising 5* snipers

jaunty notch
dull python
#

lol

jaunty notch
#

you know i'm just creating chaos

#

it's like the dead bottom of the page so give me some slack here

wind otter
#

this confirms the Dragon Ball collab

jaunty notch
#

usually i only fuck around in NEW but this is such a chance to not meme about it

frank cipher
#

nah as long we have delusion we have hope

pale yoke
# wind otter I think it does

simply swapping iris or czry with saileach will be better, there's a reason i show my rest rotation too GGCat i actually optimized everything

jaunty notch
#

i only lock czerny

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also uh

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don't know if you should have that pfp

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it's not corn but

pale yoke
#

GGCat discord detection system allows it so be it

jaunty notch
#

nvm then

inner ocean
#

the real cope

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unless HG just loves the idea that the 4th dorm is a fucking solo-basement

wind otter
#

that's just space for thrusters for when the landship takes off

inner ocean
#

thats the thing really

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i really want them to make this have landship outlines

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but alas

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that might not be lore-accurate for them

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because a real base layout would be more annoying to navigate looking like architectural plans

wind otter
#

would be cool if we could see the broken door W is always complaining about

inner ocean
#

that would just look like a sliding door

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that really opens and closes shittily

wind otter
#

I want to drag W around base and see her kick that fucking door at proximity, may finally make that feature worth it for me

inner ocean
#

base ops still not having multi-faction already proves that HG doesn't care enough

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like....base management is already such an ignored facet

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why are they so scared of making it stronger

wind otter
#

I think they care a lot, they care a lot about not giving you more free resources, they stingy

inner ocean
#

free resources for the VERY FEW that give a shit

wind otter
#

that's another issue

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if very few give a shit, then why care and put effort HellaKek

inner ocean
#

I can only respect how much they give a shit to keeping base "balanced" to the few who care

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i mean i can say the same thing for RA2 and ISs

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not a lot of people play those

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but they do put a lot of efforts

orchid bane
#

1st limited that I actually skip

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Don't feel bad about it at all

wind otter
inner ocean
#

RA is just RA. The one we have is already so good. It just depends how you want to keep playing the normal content for more days or doing RA CC

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some would play it like it's a farming sim game

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hell, I'm proud of turning my RA base into something like a palace

wind otter
inner ocean
#

vibes and liking

wind otter
inner ocean
#

some people just pull who they like or want

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no meta or gameplay considerations

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AK's normal content allows them to still clear

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hell....I can imagine some play it like Pokemon and keep capturing slugs to get the max-statted ones for slug races

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ahhhh my base

inner ocean
orchid bane
inner ocean
#

i really wish I have more than 1 max-statted slug

orchid bane
#

Enciodes, not so much

jaunty notch
#

no more 252 243 discourse

#

we now have 363 and 354

wind otter
inner ocean
jaunty notch
#

only if HG puts a cap up to 5

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it's 3 for pp now

#

3 more rooms would just add 1

inner ocean
#

but still it makes sense that there's 3 floors of facilities and 4 dorms. Even with good staggering, we are mostly filling up all 4 dorms

orchid bane
jaunty notch
#

HG would never have the balls to add another floor nor a level to any facilities

orchid bane
#

Oh and about the most trashy op in the game, base on what I have invested in her, there are high change that I should not have own her

jaunty notch
#

if that happens, the economy balance would crumble

orchid bane
#

But here I am with P3

jaunty notch
#

best they can do is add new types of rooms

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like those useless activity rooms

inner ocean
#

please we need something else

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i feel like 6 Trust EXP rooms is enough

wind otter
#

I bet we'll see more activity rooms HellaKek

wind otter
orchid bane
#

Although I should have skipped her

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But she is like

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Cool enough

#

Like virtu > Lapp > trash

inner ocean
#

your reasoning is inconsistent

#

just say you like them or not

wind otter
inner ocean
#

we don't need to go through mental hoops

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because as an ingame lore/story reader, i can point those inconsistencies out

wind otter
#

when HG releases a new batch of operators base skills

finite hill
#

Is e2 Lappland, Texas, and Jaye still a good tp combo even if I've already promoted Jaye?

agile escarp
#

feel free to ping me when you done

royal axle
#

Bro@agile escarp I am not the guy u wanna ask for this that's why I sent u here,ask the regulars here

agile escarp
#

oh ok

jaunty notch
knotty flax
#

if i'm running 4gold team poze/tuye/kirara + proviso, should i have a 35% or is it better to sub in Tequila?

jaunty notch
tribal robin
#

Hi is Degenbrecher not a good TP opperator?

frank cipher
#

alone nah with team good

rigid plume
#

SilverAsh with Gnosis CC - may give 100% eff.

#

Which is good, but not good enough.

gentle jewel
#

I'm thinking about swapping to 252, but I tried punching in my rotations on the rotation planning sheet and idk

#

I'm probably just bad at figuring out my best options

agile spire
#

Is this too much gold already??

spare pivot
thin minnow
#

they are a little dead

spare pivot
frank cipher
#

it's good 242?

clear steppe
#

damn pretty good

pseudo jetty
#

Should I upgrade rr to lvl3 to get texas on mission?

fluid pollen
#

worrythinkharder 242?

#

Like 1 factory off?

fading jacinth
#

What's current base meta?

old bison
#

turns out i do have greyy alter ReedBean

#

probably pulled on exu

orchid bane
old bison
#

is it possible to do distracted lancet strat without automatically sending her to rest with the others on shift switch?

#

oh wait i can probably do a preset and return her after sending others to rest

#

well i might try it if i ever decide to actually e2 greyyalt

orchid bane
old bison
#

im not even gonna say anything

#

anyway, how's greyy alt team?

#

im already running automation team normally but idk about adding greyy to that shit

#

keeping a distracted lancet around is a lot of micromanagement

orchid bane
#

What are your base setup

old bison
#

well i have been told to switch to 252. but i have maxed right and a lvl 2 proviso tp

orchid bane
#

Still 243 ?

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For 243, TP should still be lv3

old bison
#

no i have switched to 252

frank cipher
#

with prov broken drone only way to justify automata team is 3tp if not stick to lvl2 combo

orchid bane
#

There are 2 good choice
1st is dead lancet
Euc in CC and lancet 0 morale, greyy2 in PP
Fac lv2 weedy, pure

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But this team can last like 9hr or more, so you have to login more

old bison
#

ye im doing this without greyy for now cuz hes e0

#

hm? why only 9 hours?

#

does it clog up the limit?

orchid bane
#

2nd is just Greyy2 in PP and Weedy pure in fac lv2, this team will last close to 12hr

#

Maybe 11hr or more

#

Still need to login more

#

It is not so good to put them in lv3 fac cause 3rd slot is always bad

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But if you do so then they can last longer then 12hr tho

old bison
#

i mean there's fucking passenger ReedBean

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or even vulcan for that matter

orchid bane
#

Yeah, he is bad for 3rd slot

old bison
#

well im sorry but automation team kinda makes most 3rd slot options pointless

#

until snegurochka anyway

orchid bane
#

Unless you are using 3PP

old bison
#

i have been running 243 for a long time indeed

#

it just looks so much nicer SkadiDaijoubu

#

everything maxed and i have all 3 pp on the bottom row for vanity reasons SkadiDaijoubu

orchid bane
#

If you let your fac dead all the time compare to 243, then 243 suit you more

#

Ngl

old bison
#

nah they usually last longer than 24 hours

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uh i mean

#

in terms of rest

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as for clogging up... well it depends on my irl sanity ReedBean

north axle
#

In 252, is it better to have TP all lv 3 or factory lv 3 ?

old bison
#

proviso is better in lvl 2 tp iirc, but without her lvl 3 tp better

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even then, i run prov with quarz and i feel like im on a budget build

orchid bane
#

Have proviso tp2 fac3
Don't have, tp3 fac2

old bison
#

also should probably run gnosis team too

north axle
#

This girl?

north axle
old bison
#

just 1

orchid bane
#

Just 1

north axle
#

Or leave her be?

old bison
#

she gets twice better in base at e2

north axle
#

Sorry if this not as nice as it needs to be but what do i upgrade next?

#

Factory then?

orchid bane
#

I am not sure but yea factory if you can

#

Or just ask around maybe downgrade a dorm to upgrade a factory

#

But surely factory if you can

old bison
#

there is nowhere to downgrade any of these dorms anymore

#

unless you suggest dismantle one entirely?

orchid bane
#

Idk, I have seen lv0 dorm, not sure ppl could downgrade it

old bison
#

i need to check it hol up

orchid bane
#

Im not too professional in this

old bison
#

oh yeah you can have a lvl 0 dorm but it doesn't restore your ops

orchid bane
#

Maybe just let someone else answer this

old bison
#

i dont even think you can put any ops in it, its just gone

orchid bane
#

Yea, you have to manage with 3

#

I think it is possible

#

Somehow

old bison
#

i mean... if you rotate only half your ops often enough...

orchid bane
#

Already notice lv2 Office

#

Also, use refreshes

#

-# Use it on recruitment slot with no 4 star combo tag or more

old bison
#

lvl 2 office and lvl 3 RR

#

what do levels even do for reception room? support op slots?

orchid bane
#

Yea that is one thing

#

Maybe some speed

#

Lv1 -> lv2 get you 1 slot

#

I think there are friend limit

old bison
#

pff who needs friends anyway ReedBean

orchid bane
#

Idk

#

Personally, When I upgrade someone, and friends want to borrow it and then I say: "oh no, I am 252 max left"

#

I personally don't want to experience that so I suggest lv2

old bison
#

i am max right and nobody wants to use my ops anyway so...

orchid bane
#

Just few days ago, someone borrow my lemuen to clear the stage

old bison
#

cool

#

i put up max module ceobe and lin ReedBean

#

altho idk who would borrow lin nowadays

orchid bane
leaden grove
#

The base command has suggest RR lvl 2 for a long time now

#

Pseudo-max left with 5x lvl 3 factory and 1x lvl 2 tp, or 1x lvl 4 factory

#

Instead of underleveled training room shenanigans

fluid pollen
#

Well, we used to recommend RR lvl 2 for ML bc it was a better use of energy than office.

#

But like, idt you really need it anymore.

old bison
#

who would underlevel the training room LappDumb

fluid pollen
#

Vinci.

old bison
#

da vinki??

fluid pollen
#

Kinda doesn’t matter whether you level it or not basically

leaden grove
agile escarp
#

can any one help me build my base ?

#

does this base team cost morale ?

orchid bane
#

Khum

#

Yes

agile escarp
#

so it dont need rotation ?

orchid bane
#

If you mean stop using morale

agile escarp
orchid bane
#

Then there are 2 kind of team

#

4 r6s and 1 random

agile escarp
#

i dont have r6s

orchid bane
#

5 alter that include hibiscus kroos lava

agile escarp
#

can i have only kross and hibicus

orchid bane
#

Lava2 is free

agile escarp
#

where do i get her

orchid bane
#

But those 2 team is never recommend

agile escarp
orchid bane
agile escarp
orchid bane
agile escarp
frank cipher
#

good enuf now improve random team slowly

agile escarp
orchid bane
agile escarp
orchid bane
#

Are you VN ?

agile escarp
#

yes

orchid bane
#

Don't wanna go to VN server or something?

agile escarp
#

i only chat in ak server when needed

torn meteor
#

use noirecorn with yato one rotation then amiya wisadel the other rotation

agile escarp
torn meteor
#

other than that you dont really have any cc ops

#

ig saileach if you are willing to build whisperain for rosmontis

#

but yeah just random other than that

agile escarp
#

cool

#

can you also help mewith other building

torn meteor
#

i can try but other buildings are more complex than cc

agile escarp
#

i dont need to be that effecive

torn meteor
#

oh im fucking blind put mon3tr in your wisadel rotation

#

civilight mon3tr amiya wisadel flex is what you want to maximize uptime on

agile escarp
#

oh by noircorn you mean the alt right ?

torn meteor
agile escarp
#

im gona pull phantom alt does it help with my base

torn meteor
#

ye phantomalt is a good exp worker

agile escarp
#

im using it rn but each comp i miss 1 op

frank cipher
torn meteor
#

oh yeah is your base 252 or 243?

agile escarp
#

252

#

i just transform it yesterday

torn meteor
#

3 gold factories?

agile escarp
#

it 2 gold i think

#

i havent decide which one to work on the 5th

#

but i prefer exp

#

i ran out of lmd to e2 proviso

torn meteor
#

once your trading posts get close to optimal you usually need 3+ factories on gold to meet gold demands

agile escarp
#

can i use e1 proviso

#

and build trading post

torn meteor
#

yeah e1 proviso is still worth using she just gets better at e2

agile escarp
#

so

#

im thinking using exu/texas/lap for 1 trading post

#

what other shuold i use

orchid bane
torn meteor
#

i forget is shamare still in the shop rn?

agile escarp
#

which shop i can check

torn meteor
#

RIGHT NO SHES ON KERNEL LOCATING

orchid bane
#

Nothing beat a full Shamere team

#

And right now you can get her

#

For 45 cert

agile escarp
orchid bane
#

Well you choose aka

#

For some reason

agile escarp
#

i just choice some one i dont have

torn meteor
#

goals for TP are
bibeak shamare tequila
proviso + high productivity worker(MH collab cat is a good one but it only works on the yato noirecorn rotation)

orchid bane
#

It is not recommend to pull for this banner

#

So choose what you don't have and buy, that is it

agile escarp
#

i choose what i dont have and i dont even buy

orchid bane
torn meteor
#

one thing you can also consider is doing like quartz/jaye lappland texas then stealing your exu for exu lemuen off rotation in the proviso TP

agile escarp
#

nope

orchid bane
#

So basically you just do something pointless

agile escarp
#

i did sth like that a few time

agile escarp
orchid bane
#

Try to find Shamere in Recruitment then

torn meteor
#

actually you want to do yatoalt noirecornalt wisadel civilight kroosalt for your main cc rotation so you maximize your MH cat uptime with proviso

agile escarp
#

so

#

i go with wisadel or yatoal team in cc

#

or both

torn meteor
#

you cut amiya mon3tr and merge them

agile escarp
#

so it yato noircone wisadel civil and krossalt ?

torn meteor
#

ye

#

then your other rotation is amiya mon3tr and some filler

agile escarp
#

do i need second team for cc

orchid bane
#

Again, r6s or full alters team only save you like 1 or 2 click per day now

torn meteor
#

yes

agile escarp
#

k

torn meteor
#

your 2nd one can just be amiya mon3tr and 3 bodies tho

orchid bane
#

They are not worth using

agile escarp
#

i dont have that much op to begin with

torn meteor
#

theres not many operators with both CC skills and skills for other parts of base

#

even fewer with GOOD CC skills

#

like the only one i can think of thats kinda contested is paprika but her base skill in TP has what, 4 alternatives?

agile escarp
#

i have to wait 1hour so monster done trainning

orchid bane
#

You use amiya and 4 random, a and maybe Swire and 4 random, Literally random, don't even need CC skill, they are already better than 5 alter

#

Unless they are yato noir

agile escarp
#

ok so i done with cc rotaion

#

what about other building

orchid bane
#

But Yato morale drain make it lose the point

torn meteor
#

you dont need to chase combos super hard in 99% of cases 2/3 members with a decent general worker isnt that much less efficient if you are just trying to get something passable and not optimize super hard

#

bryophyta gravel metalworker is also a cheap combo thats worth using for gold

torn meteor
#

its just yatoalt noirecornalt and the MH cat is one of the best TP workers if you do that

agile escarp
#

cool

#

so for trading post
1 : exu/texas/lap
2 MH + exu alt + lemuen

#

it is okay ?

torn meteor
#

you would rather use jaye instead of exu in texas lappland then exu lemuen as your off rotation for the level 2 TP proviso is in

#

and just 3 30% workers for your 2nd rotation of the level 3 tp until you get shamare

agile escarp
#

so it
1 jayce texas lap
2 exu ( normal ) lemuen mh hunter

torn meteor
#

2nd tp should be level 2 so you can have another level 3 factory

#

its optimal when proviso enters the picture

agile escarp
#

so do i downgrade tp to lvl 2 now ?

torn meteor
#

ye

#

to explain why you exuog instead of exualt with lemuen, exualt doesnt count as laterano and exuog for some reason counts as exualt to lemuen

#

so exualt is a 30% in a level 3 TP or a 15% in a level 2

#

meanwhile exuog is always 35

agile escarp
#

so it proviso + which skill

torn meteor
#

proviso will be with the MH cat

agile escarp
#

isnt mh hunter with exu and lemuen

torn meteor
#

no exu lemuen would be the 2nd rotation of the proviso TP thats level 2

agile escarp
torn meteor
#

ye

#

2 for first tp would just be 3 30% workers

agile escarp
#

do i have any ?

torn meteor
#

gummy midnight and hhhh i forget who a 3rd is

#

you def do tho

agile escarp
#

i have yato

#

normal one

torn meteor
#

ye that does it

agile escarp
torn meteor
#

catapult is also 30

#

oh actually e1 quartz is a 34% worker in TP

agile escarp
#

i dont have her sadly

torn meteor
#

shes in red cert shop

#

the 4star with the eyepatch

agile escarp
#

i wil buy her

#

i e1 her

torn meteor
#

oh and e1 your purestream shes one of the best gold workers

agile escarp
#

in gummy + midnight + capapult who do i replace for quartz

torn meteor
#

doesnt matter, all of them are the same

agile escarp
#

so we done with trading post and control center

#

do you want to help me at factory or you busy

#

@torn meteor one last question

#

i have 2 lvl 3 factory and 3 lvl 2 factory

#

which one produce gold / exp

torn meteor
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heres what my factories look like, you have a lot of the pieces to do something similar just replace thornsalt with any metalwork op, fedex will be tragodia once you get him

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the levels of my factories should answer your question

agile escarp
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thanks

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i will try to see if i can fit

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you need 3 rotaion ?

torn meteor
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wildmane fartooth ashlock isnt worth using without one or more of flametail or viviana (both have to be e2 if you use them) in cc so just replace them with general workers

torn meteor
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usually each rotation lasts 12 hours

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one of the big selling points for having 3 rotations is what you see in my 2nd exp factory where i staggered the workers so that i always have at least 65 efficiency in there

agile escarp
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power plant dont matter right ?

torn meteor
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the only important power plant stuff is greyalt for weedy

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and lancet if you use eunectes in CC

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otherwise you just want whoever has the highest number in there

agile escarp
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i dont have weedy and lanecet so it dont matter

torn meteor
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greyalt is still one of the best power plant workers regardless so he should be in one of your power plants

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but powerplants are simple just use whoever has the biggest number and you are set

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oh one more thing, if you use rosmontis as a factory worker you want e2 whisperain in your office and saileach in your CC

agile escarp
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this is complicated

torn meteor
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saileach isnt necessary but without whisperain rosmontis is only a 20% worker

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im making it sound more complicated than it is cuz i just always think in half sentences and just spill my thoughts out whenever im explaining shit to people

agile escarp
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thanks you for all of this

torn meteor
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its not that bad its just use combos together and good generalist workers are good

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np

agile escarp
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i gona try and build the factory by myself

torn meteor
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best of luck with that

agile escarp
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do i even need to lock op in dom

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so it faster

torn meteor
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locking ops in dorm isnt necessary no

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it might cause morale to recover a bit faster but that doesnt change your rotations at all and in some cases using 4 dorm slots on dorm workers can fuck up your rotations

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its only super useful if you go down the rabbithole

agile escarp
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k so i only need to worry about factory

torn meteor
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yep

agile escarp
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reception and powerplant are pretty easy right ?

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it just pure number

torn meteor
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reception and powerplant are all just number yes

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hr office is also just number barring exactly whisperain and mulberry

agile escarp
torn meteor
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nono mulberry and whisperain are only worth using in specific cases, whisperain is only if you are using rosmontis and mulberry is only if you are using mrnothing

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so itll be like
1 ethan
2 whisperain

agile escarp
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k

torn meteor
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ethan is just an example of a decent low rarity hr worker cuz i closed your krooster

agile escarp
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thanks

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i think it end here

torn meteor
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im gonna head to bed now, enjoy your base optimizing

strong pecan
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Remind me who does best with Lemu E2 and Exu Alter E2 trade post strat

loud remnant
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hi could someone help me build my base

loud remnant
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@frank cipher can I send op

loud remnant
frank cipher
frank cipher
swift moon
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guys how much trust can u get for activity room atmax ambience

jaunty notch
swift moon
jaunty notch
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Split in 2, at the end of the sentence

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It’s same numbers as assistant with lv5 dorms