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the cheaper option
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yes

So you'll recommend only to do it when I get proviso?
It works but you won't gain much from it till you have proviso
When you have Proviso, put both of them in, every order get buff
Since proviso order rate ( 2gold 3gold) is 80%
there is always January
im saving that tix for mujika
bold of you to assume we don't EoS before that
one EoS reference a day
keeps the shutdown away
need common sense to get it
if he was eating apples, the doc couldn't have healed him, but since he could have been healed, the apple defense isn't working

I'm so glad I got to experience this conversation before EoS

That make it twice
If a reference doesn't suffice
Might as well do it twice
There's no EoS in Arknights Official
and remind me not to do an Arknights version of that gif when I barely have time to sleep

Can someone help. I'm running into this issue where I wanna set presets for my stuff but all the required ops from the excel sheet are already in use and have no replacements when they are tired and I end up using random ops. How would I go about setting presets then?
...Overview.

Lol I'm replacing people right now so I can show who I currently put in them
Lol sorry
Give me a sec
Alright so this is who I have currnetly set and some people are resting. Let me know if you need to see my full list of ops
Dude. There's a button...
"Add Preset".

Click, select your ops for one shift, select for another.
And you can fast change it.
When is someone exhausted, the Rotate button will be available to instachange with one click.
No lol.... You didn't understand what I said.... I said there wasn't anyone to replace them....
Like, really nobody?
That's what I was having trouble with because all the ops from the excel sheet are already in use so I would have to use random people
So just use random ops that do the same work but are lower?
Okay. And then just use them until the good ones are rested?
Yeah
And don't forget to use Add Preset button, I begging you.
It will make much less clicking.
Like for example I have no one to replace all of the control center
Then why is the control center ops listed in the Base excel sheet?
You should use them, not just Morale won't drop down to everyone in CC.
Oh I thought it was to prevent morale draining
The prevention is low enough to make any difference
Just straight up use efficiency
Or, Mlynar, because he can restore morale to workers, lol
For example Amiya and Swire has good CC skills
+7% Trading Post Eff
But they cannot work together because "Highest effect counts"
So you use Amiya for one day and Swire for another.
It would also free space for Dorms so you can adjust more ops in Fac and TP.

So just have 1 op in control center every day? Like amiya or Mlynar
You know, if he's useful
If you unsure, just ask us
Because mostly they just occupies space.
Okay I'll do that then. I had thought you need all slots filled in CC
What about the reception room
Just %Clue Find.
The specific one? Meh. They're all about the same drop rate.
Would say it's harder to find 1s, but it's case by case for everyone.
Would recommend Cantable.
She will prio over those clues who aren't on your desk yet.
Does it need to be full or just 1 person?
You may fill both slots. I think you had at least 4 people for RR.
Okay so I'm putting rope and Shira and then preset Jessica and courier
Is that good?
I would say no, but what other choices you have now?
Use them for now.

You do, just put anyone
has anyone come up with the most optimal base setup that doesn't use collabs yet?
252?
you mean limiteds?
4th link has many limitedless teams
Can someone help me on who I have to rearrange because I feel like I did okay after using the Base guide sheet but I need help
vermeil kinda usless there
look fine for me as start, if you wanna stagger vermiel make sure all 3 have increase capacity, once has lvl3 fac make for vermeil combo
Yeah I was gonna rotate cuora and noir instead with vermeil
Vermeil+Cuora/Noir Corne is basically a 16%+30%=46%
two 25% worker would be better depeding on who else you have (in your case doesn't seem much)
you can use them both combined so you won't lose much productivity overall
Is this better?
Using noir as a sub
better than before in your case since you don't have much to work with
you know you should use all thre rotations, right?
for stagger and yada yada yada
Yes haha What about the rest how are they?
nono, I mean it's good as you've done now
just that Noir Corne isn't a subber
Lol yeah sorry I typed my response wrong haha
he's part of the rotation
Ah okay. Are the rest of the presets okay?
for now yes
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ohry3zj-9clEBE_qiD-IJzKcs8bSZBIkD858ehn3-90/edit?usp=sharing
check also this if you haven't btw
I'm gonna be honest I didn't even see this I'm so sorry
dw, could be hard to spot on
So leave my presets as is right? I don't wanna mess them up
leave them like that, change them when you get better base worker for example. You can also just copy the ones in the sheet I've send for example
Yeah I was gonna change it to the ones on sheet but some ops I don't have like the one with vanilla and Shira idk who that is or who to replace it with
Yes with the headphones
check /baseskill in #bot-spam
Ah okay so if I don't have her who's a good replacement
anyone with a decent factory skill
what if i use both at the same time
separate them for max eff unless you run single tp
i already e2 my shamare yesterday
Hi, anything noteworthy for base from the new batch of operators in CN ?
I'm not sure if the PRTS wiki translation is correct, but does mantra base skill works with elite ops in CC/Workshop/Dorms/training room ?
holy peace, there's so much information to digest

O mawh gawwwwww
If I can't buy the whole of paganini's workshop, I'll be very disappointed in myself
This is not base update

We have 1% more PP for grey which massively increase our production, what do you mean "not"

There's no new floor, no new rooms that does something other than gives you trust
more power cap = higher numbers from Greyy alt
Imagine you pack 12 op into your 1st floor dorm
You still can only walk with 1 at the time
That is not possible until next patch
You mean I could max the operators in my dorm?
But the OP stay there
Yes
Up to 12 OP in your very wide space dorm
why would I leave them there?

there'd be 12 op in the doorway

imagine if we could put furniture in the doorways

Base expansion to v.0.61 
Eventually we will be out of early access base
"Eventually" 
You only need to buy 5 pieces with furniture parts, the rest will be either stage clear rewards or in the event shop
wrong, you have to buy around 25 pieces
If you just want the Paganini set, it’s 5
it's gonna cost around 2k+ no?
Usually 1.8k-2.1k
or around 20
you want both
so update brings 3 more activity rooms
spend your
on furni
support+ summon
I'm not evil

you only need to clear the rooms to get the drone cap increase
so you can skip the rooms if you don't need more trust
remember we only had 3 activity room back then?
how far we have come
we sure are moving up in the base
imagine 6, that's DOUBLE

double the worthless


300%
im falling down the rabbithole, im currently planning staggered rotations for when i 252(which im stalling til i get the achievement for maxing all dorms)
im not going to minmax too hard but i spent like an hour looking at a gold farming setup somebody used and i kept finding more things to hate
i saw that i was using my fia wrong just getting perfect proviso uptime when i should be using her for multiple things
(my ocd is the main reason i dont like 252 but i found a layout for it that doesnt bother me too much)
rate my crib
I don't stagger rotation
I swap entire teams
well, I'm not getting ines
so you want to get her by certs or not ?
maybe pull for next The masses baner will get you enough gold certs
you think the game will give me 50 certs? I have like max 80 pulls if I spend all my prime

i heard from someone u can get 70 pulls during the event, add onto that
I don't suppose it's possible still
the thing about that banner is only 1 5* really high rate easy to max her pot
99% of gamblers quit before they hit big.

after max her pot each copy give 13 cert
How valuable is ines?
best Vanguard
Is she heavily used in IS?
hmmmm
but she is great in other content
you have 5 cert from daily login, you could check for annihilation quest, might have some left
keep spaming recruit
I did all the annihilation quest, also for 5 gold cert on login, it's on 25th and Ines stays for 13days.

I have 0 recruit
didn't notice that
but don't use prime, pull for banner can give you plenty
there are free pulls tho
well, I don't really need her for my squad, but it'd nice since I also bought her skin

lol
which facilities in my base do i prioritize upgrading? training room and reception are still level 2 sooo
Is ros worth to spark for base
keep reception lvl2, training go ahead if m3 matter
She is one of the best operators in the game. FRD-ish, very good damage, invisibility reveal in two lanes with redeployment (could have helped dealing with the assassin's in Babel), DP generation with both auto-recovery and offense-recovery (for skill gen speed down debuff tags in stuff like CC), extended range in S2 with short charge time, bind, etc.
yeah, but I won't be able to get her
243 which can run both pi/wp
253 run either pi/wp
if pull bad might spark her if not up to you. she alone 80%-90%
ps : 252 can do both for 60% 60%
Exu2, Wis'adel, and Ines in first free ten pull trust
@pale yoke there's a place in hell for you and I'll be there waiting
pull L sis if sufficient gold cert take her home
bro If this happens I'll give away 10 monthy pass
whats the best 5 star operator/which one should i pick from senior op transfer
zyf always be lurking man
oh wait im in the wrong channel
good question go proviso or shama or teq make sure got this 3
kay imma pick teq
thanks
auto-playing them annihilation runs like chad 
wait, why am I doing auto-runs if all my ops are 200% trust already 
@pale yoke how much EXP did you make daily again?

it was 50 something
if i dont have to make gold to sustain TP, 53 to 56
had to switch automation to gold now
we need better gold ops
how often do you have to switch to gold focus, do you have an idea?
hmmm roughly 1 week in a month
hmm, I see, I see
just have to tolerate this for half year i guess
clearly after next cn anni we get base expansion

why else they make ops that require 10 other ops to work together? obviously for future skill

for the illusion of having been given something
I'd take that with open arms, but our arms will get tired
remember you doubted me when i mentioned PC client and they mentioned it on next livestream?
I don't remember that, it could have been Red
my uncle work at nintendo -hg 
what I do remember is you posting a link about some dude speaking like he had insider info and me pointing out that the video wasn't a confirmation 
eh?
some dude in a video you posted saying something about something coming or something
I think you were joking ||or something||

how much EXP you make daily when you switch to gold focus, do you know?
today 40k
alright
you?
well, that's the thing. I don't know if you remember I mentioned I intended to switch to your setup, but I am trying to do some calculations here. You make the most EXP here I think. But it is possible, well, it is actually a fact, that you can make more EXP in a year if you accumulate gold surplus and switch to 4 x EXP factories to burn them.
But the issue, and what I am trying to calculate, is how many gold bars you need and how fast can you get them. 
I do 41-42 EXP daily but I gain gold surplus.
confirming, what does "ACTIVITY ROOM" ready do?
extra trust for ops assigned to it, ops assigned to it can be moved around base
4XP is kinda inefficient given how we have gravel and purestream
it's not so much of just going full XP but those XP% is lower than those 2 that compile into 2 separate team
also the fact we need gold to sustain our TP and we dont have good enough gold fac and we cant make 162
that's from a previous version of the base combo noob tab
Baseskills command still uses it as there wasn't any changes in the past year in the starter meta
whenever i do 3gold 2xp i am getting surplus too
automation is the thing that balance out gold into the equilibrium
Need to change it then.
Conviction % is missing.
People will complain.

it'll be fixed in the future but we have higher priority issues

agree, we are anticipating the base revamp
No, I meant that we're currently missing #faq
...Tea party?

I need to know the amount of gold surplus + how fast it can be gained before I can make a case for it, I'll get back to you in a week or two
let's not make messages too sus with the spoiler

ran out of these, what a time to be alive 
don't worry, these only worth 2.16 

-# ||Why my msg got deleted
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You know why

meaning i can put tequila for example in TP and ACTIVITY ROOM right?
Show your Manganese T4 and Keton Colloid

yes, you can even train someone while in activity room, they are for show, if someone is working in a facility and is in activity room the activity room will appear empty, there is even an option to call the op into the activity room
no Trihydrate and the very 10 x Colloids I need for Exu batch 
His soul will be working while his physical body walking around

why you quoting yourself Red? 
Really spend em all
they gone
I blame potato phone


dead days so back to the mines, as if there was any need to 
Remember when about to update you leave all your recruitment slot open with no 4*+ tags
They will be force refresh all
good advice

I have like 1 recruitment thingie left

You should leave some
I guess I should
Like if you have 4* + tag when they are about to maintain
That slot will be refresh and might turn 3*
leave them all open, you have four days to empty them 
Even with the correct tags I get a 3star
I am sure even some oldbie don't notice this
plus you need to save the permits for IS2 missions
If the slot is running, there are hidden tag behind it
teach me if yuou don't minmd
And I am sure there are many Top Operator has been refreshed without the player notice
Maybe myself include although the change is low
I only got it once and never to see it ever again
it will come, as long as you find the g-slot
do I downgrade my dorm and fac to upgrade the office to lvl 3?
Well no
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hehe
O wise one, how do I find the g slot?
you really don't find the g-slot, the g-slot finds you 
||but since you lvl 1 Office nothing to do but keep recruiting in the one
||
Lvl 2
so i have 3 slots
These are not teaching things. It just, the slot get new tags Right when you start running recruit, not when you complete recruit, and they will be hidden when the recruit is running.
So when the "maintenance with recruitment update" come, it might refresh your good tags that you don't even know it is there
yuh
I cee i cee
So just leave them all open and all non 4*+ tags is the best
When maintenance
Saga in recruitment, finally a shot at her 
so running recruit before maintenance is bad
got it
before limited maint
Running recruit after maintenance is good
👍
which is when they usually update recruitment pool = force refresh of tags = free refreshes

this is why one must be mindful of recruitment refreshes 
Also that
I really have someone with 0 recruit ticket, no way to get more , a top OP few hours before maint
That really might happen to you
vignette events, daily logins, but those can't be summoned at command of course
green cert shop
the lesson here is to be sure to have spare permits close to a limited event release, just in case the slot give something good and you can go for it, otherwise sit back and watch a top op tag vanish before your eyes
so if I get a permit, I should check out whether I get a top op before maintenance?
you hold unto permits just in case something good appears in your slots before maint, otherwise you could have 0 permits and something good shows up and the maint will refresh the tag
||SKPORT
||
nah, there's no TO tag
c'mon wrys, you must have gotten one by now 
Can't remember getting any

You know, I'm not a hacker
at this point you may be hacking not to see it 
no, I use the standard dev build

can I run wp/pi without ros
I convert them all to 500 orundum shard
wtf was that
The coin fell on the edge
proviso is already guarantee 2500 why would you pair her with sham

to gain more
, duh
huh how
I’ve never understood it unless 1xx tbh, maybe I’m wrong
Is it a case of higher efficiency even if lower prod?
I'm more interested in the stealth edit you did with the pic showing your ops about to die 
Sure, but it will suck
Wordly Plight doesn't need Rosmontis
The whole point of Perception Information is to buff Rosmontis and making Eben not so bad for TP
WP = TP buff
PI = FAC buff
Might as well focus on buffing Mr. Nothing to high heavens and using Mulberry in HR instead of Whisperain buffing no one
sure, if you need the pulls
ok what if i have ros should i focus in fac or tp or it doesn't matter because the difference isn't much?
in case yall confused I use both wp/pi both eben/nothing
the difference is whis or mul
That is the point, you need to choose. Everyone here seems to prioritize LMD over anything else. If you choose LMD, Mulberry goes to TP, if you choose FAC, Whis goes.
But this is not only about Mul and Whis, is also who you keep above 11 morale and below 11 Morale in CC, Dusk or Ling?
Or you could not care about their morale and just work with what they give. I think Rosmontis does 50% FAC most of the time if you go this way.
I remember running the numbers for whis vs mul at some point for this and it turned up pretty even after proviso multiplier assuming you value fac% the same as tp%
also tried with including teq multiplier and it didnt make too big of a difference
that's an unedited picture
for sure 
Next time I will throw in a Pepe order
Pepe is great, you guys can't appreciate her giving free money
yeah, who doesn't like getting rich by being paid 10 bucks a month
10 bucks from doing nothing
doing nothing includes not getting rich
no area in RI where you can gamble LMD
a trading post operator who consumes 1,000
but can give you 10,000

how often op consumes 1,000?
Every order costs 1,000, 50% to give you nothing, 10% for 10k, 0.01% for 1M
orders will always be 3 hours long

that percentage is missing a chunk of the pie
how the nodule stash doing red? ready for Exu2?
because I was too lazy to think about the rest
Well, that TP op is looking great already ||great for Duck Lord Briefcase sells in store||
exactly

I don't know what you are promoting, is that enough? doesn't seem like it
Bad thing about not clear in the event. I don't have guarantee 
So I have to run the game with plan 1st

To save a san
But Also I decide to use this on Lemuen s3
After using this I don't think I need more nodude I guess
just wait until january and fails won't count
Her skill 3 alone took 21 nodule and also 0 Manganese no kohl
Well that is oke too
It isn't like you are pulling for other ops after Masses anyway
I think after using this then I don't even have to touch these
Yea sure

Here are no skill 1 both L and E, and no skill 3 L max out
Less nodule than Lemuen skill 3 alone

Their skill 1 CAN WAIT
Iirc exu2 skill 1 took nodule tier 5 too
30% is often???
What ?
it says that 15-9 drops them often
and wait for Ato with your
need
possible
define "ok" 
funny how event release dates have steadily been assigned to Tuesdays for a while now, maybe because Thursdays will be Endfield event dates
oh now you hate tuesday too? 
should I build christine just for tragodia factory xp
hate, what do you mean? 
im just making stuff up

what unreal human being saves a top op tag for later?
Has to be clickbait.
I've seen them. In salt-mines. I think kyo also saves them for the sight of it, makes no sense to me but they do exist.
Leizi Alter m9 mod3 and not a single Rephasic on sight, what a queen!

mkay so i did some spreadsheeting, this is the best i think i can do for my factories rn without building new 6star ops ignore the scene productivity number im too lazy to do proper math so i was like "close enough"
i would move waaifu to a different factory so you get her full 40% instead of just 31 but other than that there isnt much else to do here, looks serviceable to me
oh yeah ig waaifu does more in the thornsalt factory than haze
got evidence prov can last 48 with 2h leeway. now can safely fia 4th op
iirc 4th fia works under specific restrictions but timings are tight
4 smileys with lvl 2 tp is 48 hrs, so you would need something else on top of that to have extra time
I just use 5 smiley

Make it simple
3 of them do something now, so ... not so bad
7%tp + smiley op when

ok that info makes me feel way less concerned about cycling tightly with 3 fia
4th would be what, purestream? weedy? most of our best things are tied to setups
mon3tr flametail viviana?
Well yea
does mlynar do enough to count?
Maybe reed alt can do smth
reedalt is just dorm speed and the smiley
i wish dorm speed cc ops were worth something but 0.05/h isnt it
if you commit to curse, 4 slots is enough to keep some setups perma alive lol
if you're running chungus, not really (unless trying to 4 fia maybe)
if not, he's the only one letting you do 3 fia
how many smileys does mlynar need to 3 fia?
oh if just himself is enough thats good to know
Wait
The problem with fiam 3 target is only because the lv2 TP or fac can't work for 36hr
Gonna check a bit
Yea for 3 PP setup, don't need him,
For 2PP with some lv2 facilities OP target, you need 1 of him
But that is if he could work all the time, better rotate him with a wis adel or Chong yue
ahhh kk
if theres extra smileys in there does that make wisadel or chongyue less important for 3fia?
cc Eun for extra 1 shift or peanut(Shard farm) outside that forever pondering. just to make sure is save to 4th fia, all time just 3
i say this fully aware chong is important cuz mrnothing and other sui anyway
better or worse gonna check indeep calc. could swap lvl2 fac to lvl3 tp if you want to if your proviso fac is level2 (ah there is lvl1 fac for mr) basically 342
if you have lmd issues im impoverished i have 300k
for sure but if you arent going for every single op its far more affordable considering you are gonna get more lmd by the time you pull a new character
ngl im thinking of trying to spark dusk chongyue instead of shu next sui banner
dusk i already want a lot for casterknights and IS
Chong is hotter, has abs and boobs, unlike Shu, truly superior choice
true but his yapping... he would be perfect if he would just shut up
nono, that's the best part
nah the best part is the abs and chest
sounds horrible
200h spark dust 300h spark new sui, Cy and shu offrate. trust me got whole family for 5%
Dusk should be start to cost 200 next Sui banner right ?
Or already in Yu banner ?
nah i wont need to sink 300 sparks into new sui i dont care for pots
generally i dont rely on my gacha luck but ive had insane luck getting limiteds in arknights most of them i have i got in less than 50
so im willing to trust i get the new sui in 200 and then also if i dont i can sink in an extra 100 for the pity one
yes luckiest Doc, would you lose pull?
nah id win
my last character i tried to pull i didnt get only to get them in my first 10x on THE NEXT BANNER
er that was necrass i got her first 10x on mon3tr
i should mention i also got mon3tr within 50 pulls after that
Do you need 7s?
Hi chat
This is the current setup I use for CC, I rotate coldshot and project red for scavenger and dobermann and paprika for ascalon
is this good or can changes be made?
ngl im tempted to try to pick up vivianna to make my sui free CC rotation have 4 smileys with mlynar and then also improve pinus stuff and boost gravel in the thornsalt factory. mlynar 4 smiles might not be necessary but my ass is depressed i want to have as much leeway in my rotation timing as possible in case i oversleep
Should use amiya so when she rests she buffs the dorms too, but otherwise if you’re not using any special combos it’s good enough
ye amiya is just better than paprika
And then just alternate kal and m3
Oh actually use lee when mlynar’s out
Little rr buff
ye kal is to be used when mon3tr is on break
try to time it so mon3tr is on break at the same time as mlynar
oh yeah im looking forward to the ave mujica ambusher Umiri because shes 5 efficiency for vigil in the no worldly plight part of the rotation while being an hr buff, admittedly shes still prob worse than eunectes but im prob gonna be using her sometimes
I use fia for mon3 mlynar and proviso because their morale takes ages to get low so it works out nicely
that makes sense for the most part but you really would rather fia tequila shamare over mlynar mon3tr
I don't have tequila and too lazy to build sham so
but yeah I'll switch out paprika for amiya then ty
im about to lvl up training room at 3, but i have max left. 3 dorms or downgrade a fac? only 3 dorms seems like a pain
should I run amiya or mon3tr if I only have slots for 1
Amiya
At least, I do Saileach Chongyue Dusk Ling Amiya
Since if you value TP and FAC production equally, it’s 14% vs 10% in a 252
Although if you say your other CC members, it’s possible there may be a better choice to remove and use both. A no-strings-attached buff can be a wonderful thing
that also assumes no shamare because iirc shamare cancels the 7% from tp productivity boost
wait wat since when?
you are not iirc

Oh I figure
I wonder if I should tag anyone to clear 3-8 for module quest
But seem like their quest is all kill "bonebreaker"
Who should I put in control center?
Ash blitz frost tachanka and Amiya?
Depend on your playstyle
That R6S team is for pp who don't want to touch CC
There are many way to utilize CC just need to swap some presets
What’s the best set for cc?
Best for CC is some combo to make more production, like Sui team, (require many limited and 6* OP E2)
AH team for factory product
Knight team for exp
Amiya skill-like is so good
Gasglow team for TP
Cursed gnosis team
Hmm, run Sankta all the time and Ines if Caper's not working (ie no exchange)?
How to change 2-4-3 to 2-5-2?
#arknights #arknightstipsandtricks #arknightsguide #basebuilding #243 #252
Step by step guide to convert from 243 to 252 - the most productive base setup.
Video from random599 on Discord (no signs of life)
Honorable mention to @Николай_Россия1 for speeding and muting the video just so I can change my mind about it (sorry).
Thanks
you're welcome
say no to fake base updates
ere re o ase pdate n a ing e
take your meds red, you're tweaking again

attaboy
using blood magic again smh

once I reach 1mil, can I switch from LMD to orundum 1 and 1 LMD?

Good point to Switch to orun is when you have no OP to upgrade and some more rock in your depot
dude, take it slow, you're starting, you need to beef up your roster first, farming orundum is a lot of resources sink, that million will give you around 10 pulls (but how many cubes do you even have?). On perspective, the 21 op skin of Ines you bought (even though you don't have her) would give you around 6 something pulls.
I suggest you take it easy, focus on limited banners, let the 6 stars you want spook you, don't obsessed with operators that will be powercrept in 2 years.
I recommend you just focus on playing old events, getting primes from those events, being responsible with your pulls, and you will get some good stuff without crippling your account so early.
If you still want to know how to farm orundum, check this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mXML196voUUGswEyn3D-NCALqOEpvajWKiYZXBiYmJ4/edit?tab=t.0
An orundum farming guide while still having game progress AO = Artificial Orundum/Orundum/Originium PO = Pure Originite/Pure Orundum The above terms will be used interchangeably in this guide. CN/EN pictures are both used in this guide. TP = Trading Post PP = Power Plant CC = Command Center...
how far do you take your operators when you level them up?
lvl 60? 90?
Mostly 90
How deep into the game did you start farming orundum always?
After virtuosa event
Yea
that's fairly recent, like halfway your account existence, since you are early day player or something
crazy
that's 4,953.4 tactical battle records
rounding up is cheating
Upgrading prior the higher tier exp
So If I don't use enough this low tier barely touch
I always use lower tier, spend all drill plans and only leave 100 to not to be wasteful of higher tier when near op cap, I use EXP manually like the game used to, I never let the system pick what EXP to use
takes forever to level up, clicking one EXP at a time though
There is no problem with system pick
Don't get you at all

Back then yea, I have to calculate in order to not over upgrade OP
If you are at E0 lvl 49 and just a bit off from 50, you aren't going to let the system close that small margin with a Strategic Battle Record
Maybe, but only if for some reason you don't have enough
I also like to collect Strategic Battle Records 
I'm not sure if the system does this, I just don't trust
Just look it for yourself
As long as you have like maybe 10 drill
There are nothing that can go wrong
first thing the system does is use my precious strategic battle records, so wrong for that
exactly, system broken, can't be fixed
what happened in Arturia event, sounds like trauma 
Idk I see a bit of talk about orun farming in help, and I feel the sudden need to do it myself too

I'll get ines (hopefully), I saw lots of videos about pulling on the limited banner, on avg most pullers get about 50+ by 70th pull
You got it right
so I'm very hopeful

They only have 1 5* in banner with the rate 50% (or 4% per pull) that is really high
fill me up with hope\
Easy to max out its potential and get 13 goldcert per pot

also since i'll be doing around 80 pulls, should I get the 5star op in the spark shop? or let it convert to headhunting medals
Yes
which part?
If you are planning to use prime, just wait a for at least last day of Ines banner
I'm not planning to use prime, apparently they'll give you 70 pulls from the event, I have about 30 pulls saved up
1st
How many pulls you got? Are you counting the free 25 pulls? The free monthly card going into the event? The free orundum gamble? The event primes (at least the first half of the event because the banner ends first)?
okays
If you don't do many things wrong, in time you won't feel the need of those recourses
I'm counting the red rocks, i have about 18k rn which is 30 pulls, I have 10 yellow pull cards
Goldcert worth more
10 x singles
yuh
there is weekly anni next Monday right before event
wat does that do?
I wwan ines

Annihilation?
but then again, I won't break my pull bank for her, I need trag more, his cat seems fun
so if I get exu2 before enough yellow cert. I stop pulling

lets say 50 free pulls
excluding the ones given from event
also we get 1 free pull per day, which doesn't accumulate
Just don't use prime till last day of Ines banner
will remember this
and I won't use it anyway, I need skins more then OPs

waiting for Ato event for necrass's skin 
understandable, yet debatable
which part is debatable?
You know the pain I have with virtu banner
The Lapp2 banner I don't spend a single pull and there are fire bag, boom virtu 
saving primes for skin when short on pulls, but hey, I only use my primes on skins so who am I to judge?

damn
well if it comes to the worst, I'll just do 1x10 pull with prime, I don't wanna break the bank
Yea, when I want it, gotta go through hell, when I don't want it, it came like freaking welfere

so no Lappy2 
I will get lappy, her gameplay is cool tho
are all alter banners limited?
nope, Tragodia
It is easy to have a banner x.0 and x.5 that I really want to spend 300 or more
tragodia isn't limited?
nope
?
Well too bad next banner don't have lapp2
Trago not limited, can spook you anytime, can be bought in some months with transfer permit
let me get this straight
do I need to say it a third time 
What should be average time for a OP from playable to buy in store ?
trago, the most if not the best stalling/cc unit isn't limited?
exactly, well, "best" as long as HG doesn't cripple him
2 years ?
wasn't that like 2 years

Make an enemy that ignores luring mechanic seems busted, lots of people will complain
I'm more worried about elemental RES and resistance, I KNOW that HG will eventually want to release an elemental Suzuran
also can I talk about future OPs in this channel?
lets not give HG ideas
Yes
Trago, and mantra can solo most stages, no?
Like trago can stall forever, and Mantra S3 can trigger with Trago's skill
so you're damage on top of damage
or am I wrong?
they are way ahead of us already

awh shite
can't be disrepectful to the elderly now
would be fun to have a squad with different age group
I planning on doing at least 300 next Sui banner
do you know when the next sui banner is?
Jan, always
That you have to pull your computer out

Next Sui banner, base on all the limited banner so far,
A new Sui limited rate up 35%
Other rate up 35%
For the last 30%
Ines global release 2023/10/24; shoperator debut 2025/10/10
This 30% contain all the standard banner + all the Sui
well, looks like the chances are low
Yea they are
well, I got into the game thanks to shu
For example there if there are 30 OP + Sui
you were supposed to be saving for Shu, what happened 
I'm gonna sleep soon, don't show me numbers


- quietly Turn off calculator app

Biggest regret for me, I don't prepare for Shu at all, the OP I like usually NPC at first, and I don't like those Sui till Chong Yue at all, But I didn't expect that I like her so bad when I read her story

crazy, I thought you pulled in every banner
Talking about Jie
Skip so many bruh
I see, Isee
didn'thave Mlynar until Mon3tr?

The base banner , how can we miss any of them
Right ?
I don't know, Eblana best M3 Caster trainer and here we are
I mean the Mlynar banner
I know, I meant, I can't assume I know what is a real priority for what you consider a must-pull for base 
I also skip Thorns2 lately
Although he might bring 6% more to fac, like, I don't want to think what I must do with him
Base OP lately is not as crazy as back then
When was the last OP that we can consider crazy for base ?
Ulpi ?
Proviso was a mistake, just like Ceobe's module
maybe
after they released Proviso they fired the people responsible and now they run a tighter ship
Vigna finally got her wish
@orchid bane

Annihilation "29" though 
I suppose, or login rewards or something
milestones
just finished raising Proviso. I think my base set up is more or less complete now...
trading post 1 swapping between Tuye squad and Shamare squad (e2'ing Tequilla is next on the list))
Trading post 2 is given a handful of random ops that hit 90+ efficiency...
got 3 exp squads and Vermeil set for the records factories
and some decent ops for gold production... anything I'm missing?
ok im glad im wrong
tbh its prob that i thought itd work like that because umiri doesnt work for shamare but thats a different thing ig
in general this looks pretty good, consider doing staggered rotations to increase uptime on some of your better workers is all i can say
oh and use vigil in the mitm part of the rotation itll give you marginally better results
actually no use vigil and lets say chilchuck in the proviso post, with only 2 gold factories tuye pozemka isnt beating that

I'll try that for now. I have all of the glasgow squad raised, and I heard them with proviso is good, so that might be a good stopgap until I can raise Delphine to employ that configuration
after that... will probably have Delphine and Mlynar replace the 2 R6S guys in the CC?
yeah morgan siege with proviso is going to be better once you can do delphine
can i see your control center options?
my current loadout is that one I showed for the factory/TP boosts, and the other is a short lasting clue booster that lasts long enough for the other squad to refresh in the dorms. and these are the other ops I have chilling atm
oh also this is the details on the pozemka tuye trading post
wait im stupid nvm pozymka tuye is worth running in there on its own for the proviso post disregard
have 2 golds and 4 durins set up to be in the base at all times.
yeah for some reason i forgot to read the line where tuye gets +30 from pozy
how many pinus sylvestris ops do you have?
I think all of them? Raised is a different matter though
one thing people sometimes do is they put tuye in the proviso post and kirara pozy with a 3rd body in a different post
flametail and viviana are used often to buff fartooth wildmane ashlock and gravel
I suppose since they dont neccessarily be in the same TP, you could have Kirara in with like shamare or something since her 5% efficiency doesnt matter...
I have FT, Vivi, WM, and Gravel e2'd
not fart or ashlock though
kirara being there gives pozy and tuye 10 and 15 respectively on 2 gold lines so you can think of her as a 30 that can split some of her efficiency into a different post
and when the different post is proviso thats worth it
not e2 or dont own?
would it be worth it to remove kafka for Kirara in the squad with shamare and Tequila? Dunno if the 30% efficiency would outweigh the boost to higher yield deals for Tequila's talent
even at e1 both of them are 32 with FT and Vivi present
own, not raised
it would not no but it would be worth to take out underflow or gummy for kirara in your 2nd trading post
assuming both trading posts are on the same cycle
itd still be a 75 with vigil and a 30 and then your pozy tuye would be 25 higher
would have to be Underflow then, since gummy has to stay to boost Leto's exp cycle
i mean you could also put gummy on the other cycle and just swap leto's cycle
how much do you care about the clue stuff in your other CC?
mmmm... could also just make adjustments to the cycles and swap kirara with midnight. of all my TP ops, he's the least impactful I think. flat 30% and no extra benefits like the higher yield or synergies
this is for rich people who have too many resources on their hands
yeah figures
my trading outposts are outpacing my gold production so I thought maybe I'd sawp one of them but nope
consider droning for gold if you arent already
mmmm... not sure how much of an influence it actually has on the clue board, so I might be fine swapping it out for something more functional
imo clue board isnt worth chasing over lmd and exp but i figured id ask
I don't use drones as much as I oughta
moment
my reception room is basically Ines and Caper on clue search during the clue exchange state and then either Canti/Puzzle, or specific clue combos when off exchange
if you are fine dropping the clue stuff consider using vivi flametail mlynar amiya kal(replace with mon3tr when e2) in CC1 then yatoalter noircornealter and some filler in CC2
the MH collab cat is one of the best TP workers if you just want productivity if you use both of them
other things to consider are jessicat stuff for CC2
makes sense. so could just do noir yato and the RS6 or so to give it time on the clock, cuz I think yato drains morale way faster usually, right?
she does drain faster yes
ah... true true... jessicalter does have that... could do Yato/Noir/Jessicalt/2R6S and swap the rhine squad for mizuki
mizuki jessica and almond
ye that makes sense
what ops should i elite for base
the most important ones in order are proviso shamare(plus bibeak/kafka/diamante/paprika tequila), other than that theres not really any characters you really need to level for base unless you want to get into minmaxing
will be something like so when they swap around... 113% factory and 118% TP if my math is right
ye that looks good
and finally... I think that should open up Kirara and Vigil to replace chil and midnight... Vigil gives like 10% over midnight and Kirara will give... 5% overall maybe?? will have to double check that math
something feel wrong but i dont know what
should give 2 more gold productions, so +15% from Tuye and +10% from pozy, +5% from her flat rate... actually I think that just breaks even... 
why more than 2 teams? thats only something to do when staggering rotations
it breaks even on productivity itself but its a net positive cuz proviso is basically a productivity multiplier
so productivity is worth more in proviso post than provisoless
ah, true true. its better cuz that one outputs higher
exactly
thank goodness I came here. base shenanigans are too easy to get lost in the weeds with
trueee

might make the explanation simpler
basically you should only need 2 teams in that tp not 3
why
because you want to maximize time spent working by your higher quality teams and they recover morale fast enough in dorms to not need a 3rd team when cycling teams
btw, is there a reason why this squad is giving lower numbers than it should?
is this fast enough to recover morale ?
the math should be 92 if I'm not mistaken, but its 74
narantuya cares about dorm levels could that be it
my bases are all maxed
what narantuya do
mine still e0 l50
you actually dont need the dorm workers just unlock the slots except maybe senshi
senshi is only to stay if you use laios marcille and/or chilchuck in base
i like big number
it almost recover 4/hour
yes but you dont need that much morale recovery
most of the recovery is from dorm level and decoration anyway
i like to do rotation to better squad sometime
even if their morale like half
should be +20% from naran's dorms, +20% from Wulfy, and +26 (8+8+10) capacity for +52% efficiency for 92%
im gonna start by changing up some rotation
Where should i click to see the best combo rn in en and cn for base?
oh, I see it now
if you rotate more frequently it should be fine its just not remotely necessary
narantuya is specifically precious metal
ok. swapped the mizuki squad to the exp spot, and naran squad to gold spot
ye thats good
@torn meteor I think thats good? 112% on the Proviso squad, and still managing to hit a respectable 93% on the one with Underflow.
ye this is prob about as good as you get for TP in 243
and I think that combo is stronger for proviso than the Delphine/morgan/siege combo...
it is yes
ok cool, so in that case I think the only other optimization I can do is raise purestream to e1 and swap ceobe out for her
would bring this one up to a smooth 102%.
oh right, will Exu, Exualter, and Lemon function together in the base?
dunno if exu and exualter count as laterano ops for the base buffs
since they are penguin logistics ops
As far as I remember being told they don't count
Fairly sure it's counted as alter faction and not laterano or penguin
checks out, ik in base skalter and spalter count as alters not AH
Whens the entire team of ah so gladia dies in a few minutes but it's 100 production every worker

Joking aside you can put some in dorms I think to extend her active time?
i heard something about a multifaction update way back at laptop banner but given nobody uses umiri to boost laptop texas vigil it must not have happened yet
you could yes
hypothetically optimal base is like 2 ah workers per factory and a fuck ton of ah in dorms
surely ah grows to have more than 20 members 
At some point I think it inverts and heals her
we can prob make do with like 5 dorm slots free tbh
correct
ah members are all such insanely good workers its a shame we cant maintain better uptime on them
7.5h is someone’s sleep so it’s not that big of a deal
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