r-i-i-c

[orchid bane]

There for you

[cobalt citrus]

thanks

[orchid bane]

what the cat ?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787634872738119683/1084117160831492127/keQ2r-k2z7KnToS60-5s.gif

[cobalt citrus]

cannibalism

[pale yoke]

let's trash this place

[orchid bane]

as you can see my Shu is putting something in the trashcan

[uncut dome]

Packages sent on the 7th day of the month

[pale yoke]

I saw it live

I suddenly saw 2 7 pop up

And I went to delete you but game so lag I was a bit too late

I got seven 7

[uncut dome]

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Hey I gave you one clue 6

[pale yoke]

wait what

[uncut dome]

[pale yoke]

Oh so 7 7 and a 6

Thanks

I'll trash your place regardless

[uncut dome]

[orchid bane]

it just that and you cool ?

https://tenor.com/view/teen-titans-movie-batman-v-superman-martha-mom-name-gif-20819038

[fluid pollen]

7/8 clue gifting efficiency

[pale yoke]

It's disgusting how many 7 being generated

[fluid pollen]

Artificially generated 7s

[pale yoke]

The gang is all there to trash his place what you mean cool

Look at how disgusting that place look

[orchid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-know-your-place-implicit-gif-26537479

[pale yoke]

So cn new ops good e?

[valid storm]

I don't know whose that is, but you should remove them from your friendlist

[pale yoke]

agree

[valid storm]

not that much

Hoshi is 3% factory though

[fluid pollen]

3% per factory provided you run Swire in CC

• 5% over Kal is decent

[pale yoke]

not for me then

[valid storm]

5??? But there's only 4 factories

[orchid bane]

To be precise 12-15% fac per 1 CC slot is decent

[pale yoke]

9-15%

[orchid bane]

Want a piece of me ?

6-15%

[cobalt citrus]

I have to sell a kidney for this

[shadow frost]

bibeak or scene with distinctions - who is more useful/important for base stuff?

[leaden grove]

Scene is a key vermeil combo member and bibeak is super replaceable

[cobalt citrus]

scene is more useful in terms of actual gameplay

[shadow frost]

YAY i just got this from recruitment

she nets me a whole 1 more gold per day lol, which still leaves me at like a 5 gold a day deficit

[valid storm]

Okay, which one? I'll give you 10$ for your left

[shadow frost]

see if he offers a bundle rate for both

[valid storm]

he won't

[shadow frost]

what a scam

[cobalt citrus]

how much for six kidneys?

[shadow frost]

where did you get the extra 4?

[cobalt citrus]

This information is confidential

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034124000990863394/1177107434066686022/caption-5.gif

replace 'flowers' with 'kidneys', im too sleepy to edit

[wind otter]

base snafu is too real rn

we need that goddamn kitchen, and the kitchen must have like 3 slots with people working

[fluid pollen]

[wind otter]

make it 5, it's rhodes island, kitchen must be its own control center feeding so many people and Kay

[shadow frost]

Is there a remotely efficient way to do my base that would allow me to only have to do rotations once a day? Without the ability to search my operators and do like saved presets, this is awful

[orchid bane]

Use 243, with some capacity op, just saved some preset, it only take you once in a while

Few months ago, we don't even have preset, it is already better than before

[wind otter]

or raise and train monkeys

[shadow frost]

Wait, there is presets?

[meager meadow]

dawg did you even open the base

wdym "there is presets?" 🤣

[shadow frost]

Fml

[meager meadow]

time to read QoL page in base combo guide

[shadow frost]

Although that still doesnt help with me shoving the correct people into dorms are i swap in their preset

After*

[meager meadow]

there are some limitations concerning the order and who goes in, yes

but again, that is very small manual effort compared to before

you can always just ignore those worker combos or ignore their optimisation

[shadow frost]

Hmm

I guess also when sorting by morale as long as my other, random assorted ops arent demoralized, only the ones im swapping should be sorted first

Well, now that i know there is presets, that makes my life alot easier..

Now if only i could fix my brain so i stop making random typos

[orchid bane]

Where have you been for the last 4-5 months ?

Can this change your mind about doing base once a day, cause 12hr is better for sure, your san cap tho

[regal fog]

For orundum farming is 342 better than 252 with my situation of low LMD & million exps

[orchid bane]

Yes

If you do it, could you share result. Have not seen 2 PP doing Orun for awhile

[regal fog]

In 3 days to see the average ?

[orchid bane]

[cobalt citrus]

Make it so that we have to pay MONTHLY wages to our base operators to keep them employed and working, oh and a laundry room too

[valid storm]

wages? you mean the treatment for their Oripathy

[cobalt citrus]

what about the uninfected people

they can't work for free

[valid storm]

they'll be infected in no time

[cobalt citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914578216818200626/1352912662870229002/Fioracle__-_1903251604330975611.gif

[scarlet swan]

Is this a good TP setup?

[orchid bane]

Not sure if you have every other Op but base on what I see here, you could change the 1st one
Proviso + texas Lapp
Proviso + exu +30%

Cause they are both 65% + Prov, better than 60

Sub for right team can be 3 30%

You could E1 Quart for another 34%

Maybe tp 2 sub should still be exu lapp texas

[round lichen]

@scarlet swan why are you using Jaye with nobody else who increase cap? Also is your Jaye E1 or E0? Jaye can pair well with Rose Salt when he’s E0

If you have Fiammetta you can keep Shamare, Tequila, and Proviso working 24/7 by cycling them into her dorm. If you do this you don’t need to run a sub team in your second TP and can just switch Bibeak to Diamante/Paprika/Kafka/etc. when she gets close to exhaustion

[cobalt citrus]

Huge shoutout to Mason, I couldn't have done this without his "help"

[shadow frost]

Is the assistant report in the CC from reset to that point?

pretty damn sure i'm making more than 5k LMD per day lol

[orchid bane]

wut ? what di u do ?

[orchid bane]

the last 24hr income will be there <t:1754650800:R>

[rain silo]

How to LMD 😔

[cobalt citrus]

thia is how

[severe whale]

what do i do guys ? this is my base line up

[orchid bane]

you have to downgrade your fac or TP

520/540 means you have spend 520 power and have 20 left

you could leave them there for some benefit before starting mastery level 3

[rain silo]

Lemme just kneel on Sash and hopes he works better then

[dim frigate]

don't look at exp, embarrassing

[orchid bane]

So why did you send it if you don't want ppl to see it

How about send nu||clear launch codes ||

[cobalt citrus]

whaet are you going to do with the nuke?

[orchid bane]

who knows, i might blackmail the government, take a bunch of money, live r a wealthy life later ||or maybe just want to nuke your house||

[orchid bane]

Omg I need this

Although it is way more expensive than in event

[cobalt citrus]

what if i dont have a house and live in the deserts of sargon

[orchid bane]

Nuke Terra

[cobalt citrus]

Priestess' no.1 disciple:

[orchid bane]

Wait what

That is not

Noooo

[orchid bane]

I don't know what to trust

This

Or this

@valid storm

[valid storm]

the bonus trust only works in the event stages

[orchid bane]

So

The game has been lying to us

[valid storm]

of course, but the maintenance notice and the post on the website doesn't

[orchid bane]

I see

[cobalt citrus]

can i get entelele with this much orundum 🤔

[orchid bane]

After you un-edit the 3 zero behind it

[cobalt citrus]

[orchid bane]

Stop editing to make you poorer

[valid storm]

yes, if you use your 💳

[rain silo]

HOW? CAN I SEE THE OPS? I'm a newbie tho, so I know for sure I can't copy it

Omw to E2 Sash, but I only have 3k Lmd

[cobalt citrus]

what if im f2p

[fluid pollen]

[valid storm]

you become f2p

forced to pay

[rain silo]

I've managed to increase it :DD

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/iniciante-números-de-iniciante-those-are-rookie-numbers-rookie-number-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-11107835434506687946

[cobalt citrus]

^she's doing a thumbsup (not a middle finger)

[orchid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/teach-me-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-gif-8215241

[regal fog]

idk how decent is this prod

[orchid bane]

Fine I guess

Do you have Proviso ?

[pale yoke]

Yes why?

[pallid isle]

So this is currently what mines looking like. Forgot gladia again but I think someone told me it's "even" for a 12 hour shift. Can imagine can be even higher with even more cursed. Hard for me to remember what lower numbers kinda are below 60's for lmd and such idk the benchmarks very well anymore if your lacking most of what's in pins anyway

[regal fog]

yea

[cobalt citrus]

whats the conversion rate for originium shard into orundum

i stocked up a little, idk if i should grind more or convert these first

around 650 rocks left

[south geyser]

For F2P at +100% efficiency, farming 360 orirocks a week to get 1800 AO, it would take 86.5 hours to convert 360 orirocks to get 180 shards. Next you convert the 180 shards to 1800 AO in 86.5 hours (3.6 days, close enough to 3.5 days of production.

from the AO farming guide

[orchid bane]

That result is bad for a 2TP with prov

[shadow frost]

I evidently need to fix something with my tp set up, producing aroundabouts 50k lmd of gold per day but only selling around 40k

Unfortunately currently lacking in good ops (im doing 252) for tp

[swift ridge]

where can i find the latest optimal rotation shifts for base setup?

[pallid isle]

for teams thats pin 4 as for best rotation shifts that depends a lot on who you have but also in pin 4 is a list of some example set ups

[swift ridge]

i have most operators, looking for latest sample shifts. having difficulty understanding the sample shifts under pin 4

[regal fog]

Damn

I have no idea what am I doing wrong then

[pallid isle]

yeah you should be looking at around 60-70K+ with proviso

[regal fog]

[orchid bane]

But maybe it is fine , just bad day

[regal fog]

I also log in only like twice a day maybe that affects thing

Cause whenever I open my base some of the facilities are stopped producing

[pallid isle]

you only need to log in twice a day

12 hour rotations are the normal

well with automation team ig 3 times ideally

since it caps sooner

[regal fog]

I'll try to log in every 8 hours then

[pallid isle]

do you have fiametta

[regal fog]

Yeah

I use her to 24/7 proviso

[pallid isle]

then you should easily be getting 60K average or above

using any 40% partner

[regal fog]

This is my setup

[pallid isle]

wait you even have 3 tp

[regal fog]

It's 342 doing orundum farm

[pallid isle]

are you not using fia on teq and shamare in this list?

[regal fog]

No it would mess up the cycle with the control room team

[orchid bane]

It should be used with Teq Sham Prov

What is your fia targets ?

[cobalt citrus]

Everyone and their grandmas have fiametta except me

This is how I feel everytime fiametta is mentioned:

[opaque oriole]

chat

if im running a normal 252 max right, with a standard 12 hour roatation

[valid storm]

you turn into an AI flop?

[opaque oriole]

is dorm workers needed or should i just not run them

[valid storm]

No need for dorm workers afaik

[opaque oriole]

noted

[shadow frost]

Any way i can improve the tp rotation i posted earlier with easy to get operators? I can also post my roster later once i get out of bed lol

[cobalt citrus]

Based on the image, the cat is suffering from poverty due to:

1. Begging for money: The cat is shown accepting a coin, mimicking a person begging.
2. Homelessness: The cat is on a wet, dirty street, suggesting it lives outdoors.
3. Neglected appearance: Its overall state points to neglect and a difficult life on the streets.

[cobalt citrus]

It would be better if you switched to 3 exp and 2 gold setup until you can get your hands on a good tp combo. The extra gold you produce is gonna stock pile up really quickly

[valid storm]

you could have just posted Snowsant and we'd have gotten it immediately

[cobalt citrus]

didnt we make her like 9999 arkillion dollars in that one event

[valid storm]

She had to pay her taxes, then pay back her debt

[shadow frost]

maybe.. i think the main things i'm missing to have the most productive tp setup i can is shamare (and one of the substitutes in her setup) and proviso

shamare i can keep trying to get via recruitment, proviso is probably gonna have to wait until i go after the mont3r banner

[regal fog]

just proviso

[orchid bane]

What a waste

Fia can target maybe up to 3

Or 4

[regal fog]

i cant afford to log in everytime fia is up to reset someone

so i play safe rather than breaking the cycle

[languid blaze]

fia proviso and gnosis so karlan team last at least 3/4 shift, at least when you farming Ao

[orchid bane]

Oh yeah, the fiam with lv2 proviso 34hr17min

You should have someone like mlynar, Chongyue Wis in CC then

[south geyser]

I really need better gold bar production, droning proviso drains the supply so much (look at the 50k : 70k ratio...)

[orchid bane]

unless you yourself have the better plan in the future to make more gold

otherwise just drone it

you could think of dead lancet team

[cobalt citrus]

which base slave shall i upgrade

[orchid bane]

Get in the game and see 224/225 drone

[fluid pollen]

[cobalt citrus]

why do you have 44 lmd, are ypu poor?

[pale yoke]

Need more xp prod less lmd

[orchid bane]

Shhh

I am trying to look cool oke ?

[orchid bane]

This one is having 34.554.800 exp

So LMD:EXP is 1.285

Good enough

I am NOT editing this pic. Oke sam , my number of exp is absolutely not 3400

[cobalt citrus]

What's in the box huh? Are you hiding one of your victims in there

[orchid bane]

What box, uhh, what victim ???. I don't get it. This random pixel box definitely not contain any of your relatives , and I am NOT planning to use it to blackmail you, got it ?

[cobalt citrus]

I'll get you...

[valid storm]

if that box is where the missing goods are, you are in trouble

[orchid bane]

[cobalt citrus]

Insane rewards from the arknights battlepass

[valid storm]

but that's a forever beta stuff

[leaden grove]

Does hoshiguma cc skill stack with Kaltsit/monster

[dense crypt]

Is there a calculator or tool I could use to optimise my base?

I'm running a simple 2 rotation setup I made myself, but I just want to be sure I optimised both rotations properly

[wind orbit]

there's base calc in pin

but you'll need to input operator yourself
it's not one click solve/optimze

[outer bear]

anyone know if upgrading my provi tp and downgrading a fac gets me more than keeping it?

[languid blaze]

max left wut... probably better let tp lvl3 and fac lvl2 as you got more gold output. more or less check Tp pin(link in the link)

[orchid bane]

If this is your max then you should keep it

[outer bear]

🤔

[orchid bane]

Unless somehow all drone on Proviso and you still don't have enough LMD cause your fac is making too many Exp gold

Too many exp or gold is waste

[outer bear]

Yeah I’m making surplus gold so

[orchid bane]

Do you have enough exp ?

[outer bear]

I make like 30 per day idk if that’s good or bad

[orchid bane]

Could you quick calculate your LMD:EXP rate right now ?

[outer bear]

Hold up I’ll send my riic

this is droning tp

3gold2exp

im still relatively new player so i dont have a lot to build

[orchid bane]

That look fine, but I mean what you have right now

LMD and exp

[outer bear]

oh ok

2.7mil lmd

exp

[orchid bane]

Your LMD:exp is now 1.7

Do you have many module block in store ?

*Depot

[outer bear]

lemme check

[orchid bane]

Spending that would require a good amount of LMD

[outer bear]

would my planner help

[orchid bane]

LMD:EXP should just be between 1.1 and 1.4

But since you don't have much atm and so many Module block, I would say your rate is good right now

[outer bear]

i cant really improve my base anymore since i dont have better slaves sadly. i just have basic vermeil team + mlynar cc

and provi + shamtec tp

[orchid bane]

But your gold bar is right ?

Maybe you should change to 342 in the future

Making is not bad choice tho

[outer bear]

I’m only 3 months in I need a lot more operators to build

But yeah I can swap between 342 and 252 if I have massive surplus

[orchid bane]

Right now just keep it, maybe sometime change to 3 exp

To the point that you find yourself lack of LMD or anything, probably LMD

And change to 342 at that point

[outer bear]

I see thanks

[cobalt citrus]

^ geologist propaganda

[orchid bane]

Now now, sam

[valid storm]

we love geologists, so we'll listen to their propaganda

[orchid bane]

Have I ever said anything that makes you guys think I'm some kind of person who lures people into cursed mining path ?

[cobalt citrus]

he rrally said this guys

[valid storm]

yes

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Sob

[orchid bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/623519102123638825/895250341963120650/20200722_133656.gif

[fluid pollen]

[orchid bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/919971675477512252/arrglda_arknights211213.gif

This is me biting zyph

[valid storm]

is he tasty?

[orchid bane]

Sea favor

[valid storm]

like algea sea or like those small sea creatures soup/paella?

[orchid bane]

I am not sure, maybe the later one

[uncut dome]

[orchid bane]

Hi Zyphie

[rigid plume]

Hi.

Can someone calculate Order Efficiency for Exusual/ExusialAlter/Lemuen, plz?

[valid storm]

so, ziffy is yummy

[orchid bane]

You could say so

[orchid bane]

Just Lemuen and regular exia 80% for 2 slot

Maybe that is all you need to know

[rigid plume]

And if I don't and still want to use both Exias?

[orchid bane]

Idr maybe exu alt only bring 30 or 35%

[rigid plume]

Can you do the math for sure or you just thinking?

[orchid bane]

Exu alt is 30%

Max

[rigid plume]

Yeah, I already figured that.

[orchid bane]

Maybe for some reason you don't have exu

[rigid plume]

45% Lemuen if she saw either of two Exias

[orchid bane]

Then I guess you could use exu alt lemuen for 75% combo

[rigid plume]

35% ExiaStandard

110%

But it's just my maths

So I wanna see the Google Docs dev who can for sure say it's real or not.

[orchid bane]

And If you do this then last slot should be 3 PP Archetto

[valid storm]

math checks out, but we have many 35% operators,so...

[rigid plume]

I'm not interested in team changing rn.
Just explicitly team I said.

It's not even my question btw. I'm here to retranslate what did you said.

[orchid bane]

[orchid bane]

Then I don't get you at all. Gonna leave you to someone else, see ya

[summer kernel]

I accidentally put the wrong operator into my Fia dorm. How do I swap him for the right operator without setting off the Fia?

[orchid bane]

Press the X

Somewhere

If you know how fia work then you don't have to think that much

[orchid bane]

I just got Texas tag , spam like 10 more in the same slot, and got Whisperain, so you are lying, and hacking

[jaunty notch]

35 + 15 + 45 = 95%. Exu Alt doesn't count herself so only Lemuen is there

[rigid plume]

You're 101% sure?

[valid storm]

Exu doesn't count for Exe?

[jaunty notch]

it's 35 base exu, 15 for alt, 45 for lemuen seeing exu. Here're the operators that exu counts

I can also grab an in game screen shot if you want

[valid storm]

wtf, Exu not laterano?

[pale yoke]

👍

[valid storm]

wait, where's Fedex?

[jaunty notch]

the dual faction never got implemented in the base, as per the write up

they're all Alter coded

years ago

you just EN

[valid storm]

This game is totally unplayable

[orchid bane]

Ikr, they even limit dorm space

[valid storm]

and ambience

and I can't even have unlimited furniture

[orchid bane]

Unbelievable

[rigid plume]

If it won't disturb you much, yes, thank you.

[rigid plume]

She's Penguin.

Both Normal and Alter.

[valid storm]

She should nuke Laterano then

[orchid bane]

My wife She had done that with some schools

Laterano soon

[jaunty notch]

i currently am not able to take it, but I'll ping you again when i am

[rigid plume]

Alr. Take your time.

[jaunty notch]

Amiya in CC

[rigid plume]

And without?

I need blunt.

[jaunty notch]

102 - 7 is 95%, it's just that

[rigid plume]

Alr, thx a lot.

[jaunty notch]

yeah, if you need extra numbers just go to link in pin 4

[strange sorrel]

can someone look over my base rq and see if I fucked smth up?

cc

rr

factories

tp's

power plants

office

[dense dagger]

Where's the rotation?

I'll just leave these to you guys since yer more professional at explaining

[unique mauve]

don't use 4 smiles with Mlynar (2 is enough), at least use ops like Amiya that boost base production. Same for alter team (at least use ops who has actuale cc skill)

[leaden grove]

What did you use to put this together?

[strange sorrel]

base spreadsheet in pins

[unique mauve]

with vermeil use click/beanstalk, drop bubble and use another exp worker

[leaden grove]

Erm

[unique mauve]

scene is kinda usless at e0/1, just use a 25% worker

[unique mauve]

I think you missed the part where certain ops needs to be promoted (like Scene) or just read plain wrong

[leaden grove]

Replace an altar and Doberman with Amiya (or something with same skill) at least

Bubble and vermeil’s skills conflict, use vermeil + FedEx + click at least

Pozemka + durin and Myrtle TP team doesn’t really make sense. The durins don’t have to be in the TP and pozy isn’t worth using alone without the other members of her combo

Vulpisfoglia isn’t doing anything special without e2 suzuran in the other slot, and certainly not enough to counteract cantabile’s bad skills

[strange sorrel]

Is this better then?

[unique mauve]

there are other ops who kinda doesn't make sense, like the rotation with Heidi/Chil/Underflow

just use normal 30/25% worker

and the pozy setup is still bad

[strange sorrel]

I removed pozy (and the durins) wdym

[unique mauve]

myrtle and during doesn't have any tp benefit

[strange sorrel]

like this?

[unique mauve]

leave them in the dorms at least

[leaden grove]

He’s probably confused because you changed the preset and not who was in it, which is why i was confused as well but I think I got it.

[unique mauve]

yeah, kinda noticed that now. My bad

now they seems better, except maybe that blaze2 in cc

[strange sorrel]

well who do I swap them out for?

[leaden grove]

As the base guide explains, promotion and rarity are just as, if not more important, than the skill. If laios and rope are both e0/e1 then it would be better to replace them with nearly any 5/6 star that’s e2 with nearly any RR skill.

Laios and rope at e0 is 56%, vulpis and cantabile is actually still better at 81%, even enough vulpis doesn’t get her whole skill

Ascalon has the same skill as paprika and blaze you could also put in civilight and wisadel

As far as I can tell, your CC teams should be Mlynar + flametail + ascalon + (monster if you’re gonna get her) + 1/2 random extras

The other shift should be civilight wisadel Amiya + random extras

[strange sorrel]

So smth like this?

Or?

[leaden grove]

Blaze and ascalon have a the same skill, it’s redundant

Nymph is useful only as a placeholder, so it’s fine, idk what scavenger is doing tho. You could in theory put kroos alter or something.

You could also use gladiia + abyssal hunters as long as you replace the team in 8 or so hours

[strange sorrel]

oki

ty king

[cobalt citrus]

my 333 setup is finally starting to look decent

[wind otter]

Just one guaranteed 5 star and you are trying to call that a generous slot?

[urban orchid]

Do some of you sometimes get this bug too? Operators still shaded when in full morale

[wind otter]

as often as I breathe

[jaunty notch]

server sync issues, happens when you close your phone when the game's on or just bad internet. Go back to the main menu to resync

[wind otter]

It also fixes itself when someone reaches full morale, like the game updates

[jaunty notch]

one of the server force sync points probably

like how back before yostar acc implementation, every completed order/product gives you a few secs of loading

[wind otter]

oh, OG player moment, didn't know about that

I've seen some orders go back a second near completion also

[pale yoke]

Cursed user be like

[wind otter]

[rain silo]

Yum 3k

[pallid isle]

[rigid plume]

[south geyser]

is this true?

[wild ice]

can you send the link to this video

[inland ivy]

[wild ice]

i remember watching this and the only real proof their had was that base report

[south geyser]

https://youtu.be/UATT7EdQvC8

its a typhon vid but the latter section talked about the base setup

[wild ice]

yep their only defense is their own 243 base report

[strange sorrel]

bait used to be believable

zzzzzzz

[south geyser]

might have to test this myself and check the various 3 day reports to find out

the difference is kinda neglible to begin with anyway

[wind otter]

the earth is flat though

[arctic prism]

lmao im mildly interested in watching this to see how bad it is but it's not worth giving him a view

also from the screenshot, even his carefully hand picked base report is mid af

[orchid bane]

I knew it

[orchid bane]

Always believe

[pallid isle]

but all numbers that are higher are photoshopped

never mind the fact theres hundreds of them

by many people

[orchid bane]

[pallid isle]

this guys entire channel is just

what

non stop non sense bait ig

looking through it

[orchid bane]

So you got baited

[fluid pollen]

True

[pallid isle]

i ig i did to just look at it

i mean this guys been baiting for months? years?

[wind otter]

he a master baiter

[fluid pollen]

Genius even

[south geyser]

I started watching him for the 5 star only clears on the recent hard stages, then yt started recommending the questionable past vids

calling wisadel bad etc

[pallid isle]

oh the mod y exu is better then wis

i didnt even see that until now

[orchid bane]

What do u mean, she sucks

I regret doing 200% trust on her non alt form, so now she has 200% trust too

[pallid isle]

i laughed even more when i glanced through and saw rosmonstis level sniper

accurate screenshot

[orchid bane]

Ros best Flinger

[pallid isle]

i do love ros

[fluid pollen]

Red not lazy?

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

that's not Logos

[pallid isle]

today i also learned logos is trash eyja is trash and gg is trash

and

10-6>1-7

[orchid bane]

Logosless

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Casters are trash

[round lichen]

God they’re so smarmy, it completely kneecaps their ability to make an argument

Also “Jessica’s unique niche is bad because Phalanx Casters exist” no… Jessica is bad at tanking because she has 0 RES, 150 Def, and <1500 HP, relatively weak skill uptime, and the dodge doesn’t provide consistent survival. You could just, give her the stats she needs to tank and she would be worthwhile

[pallid isle]

that and they also just blatantly disregard proven information like 243 vs 252 or 1-7>10-6 for rocks writing it off as non sense math "napkin math"

on top of arguments that are just

weird at best with operators

hell they even had a pinned comment shitting on high end is players and cc players as in they knew nothing on another video

[cobalt citrus]

What if he's just really good at math and we are the noobs here

[south geyser]

crazy behaviour

[clever quarry]

does wis have def ignore? no? checkmate "w"ankers, exu reign superior!**

[tough bobcat]

Can someone help me pair the op that can improve my factory and trading post :<

30k a day isnt enough I need more

[valid storm]

what setup you have? who are you operators?

[ebon stirrup]

I normally get around 45k..but now it shows a sudden spike and now it's at 30k?I think it increased bcos I started using drones on tequila but why would it decrease that much?I didn't make any other changes

Is it because of the time I check the report?

[tough bobcat]

252

[orchid bane]

1st , TP is always about RNG there are multiple kind of orders
2nd, Unlike factory, TP only get the result updated when you already claimed it , the LMD already run into your depot, so for this 8/12, you probably did not claim at the end of the day

[ebon stirrup]

End of the day as in before server reset?

[orchid bane]

Yes, but that is not what you have to do tho

It just for a nice screenshot

[ebon stirrup]

Huh?how else would I know the results

[orchid bane]

Lol

For the closest to exact report, claim at the end of the day

For 4 days strike

[ebon stirrup]

I see..

[pallid isle]

Yeah see mine I probably had a ton of orders the day before and that's why it skyrocketed to 81 but this is also why we use 3 days average or even 4 days average for a better estimate of what your getting overall each day

[leaden grove]

Downgrade your dorms and upgrade your factories. Check “noob” tab in the base combo guide, pin #4 in this channel

[pallid isle]

do cursed strats as well .

Also you can check this to see what your factories at max can look like for now and if you/when you decide to do tr level 3

[tough bobcat]

I can’t ;-;

I need them until I got my HR to level 5

[little saffron]

I like the new design

[leaden grove]

CC you mean, and also, isn’t the requirement that you have any facilities lvl 3?

[valid storm]

too much Sami in you RR

[twin blade]

does just keeping the op in activity room inc trust?

or should i move them around and shi

[wild ice]

pretty sure you can just keep em there

i’m kinda curious whether putting them both in activity room and in a facility like CC or training room would make them gain more trust

[shadow frost]

the game hates me and doesn't want to give me shamare

or proviso

kind of stuck without them, my base is producing like 51,000 worth of gold each day but only selling 34,000

i suppose if i bothered to drone my TPs that number might be closer to 40k

[leaden grove]

Make more exp and then drone tps if you have a big gold stockpile

[shadow frost]

my issue is that i never have enough lmd, not exp 😭 one day i will get proviso

if i end up getting proviso it'll probably be during the mont3r or exu alter banners

[leaden grove]

Yes but one day you will have proviso and then kick yourself for not stockpiling exp. Also don’t ever max lvl 🥹 I did a bunch of lvl 90s in a time of richness and my lmd/exp balance is still recovering lol

[shadow frost]

i'm not even trying to 90 characters, it is a case that modules and e2 promotions are so expensive 😭

[leaden grove]

Just a cautionary tale about being intentional with your production

[shadow frost]

honestly i'm short on both lol, i should double check that i don't have any new combos i can put in the factories

[wind otter]

||true base update ||

[tough bobcat]

i mean I just need one more building level 3 to upgrade my base so downgrading them now would be a waste of drones

[leaden grove]

Fair but you have to do it anyway

[ebon stirrup]

Proviso is in next standard banner

[tough bobcat]

proviso is the one that buff your tp right?

[leaden grove]

Best TP worker

[tough bobcat]

Her passive only work on the tp she is on or it work for all tp

[orchid bane]

The TP she is on

BUT

You knowww

-# she can be on all the TP

-# ||or in another way not on them but still buff them all||

[tough bobcat]

What do you mean by that

[leaden grove]

Idk why they’re bothering to tell you but it’s called cursed proviso and it’s, well, cursed. She buffs orders when they come in so you can theoretically babysit base and put her in at the start of every order. It’s called cursed for a reason

[tough bobcat]

Interesting

[orchid bane]

Regularly, ppl just put her in TP all the time to work, but in reality, she just need to be there when the order is about to end

[tough bobcat]

Is the next op on the standard banner good

See if I could get any extra benefit from trying to get proviso

[orchid bane]

Don't even notice who is on that banner, see ya

[leaden grove]

Don’t pull for a 5 star, the rates are very bad, especially on a standard rotating banner. The 6 stars are not good anyway

[orchid bane]

But really 5* rate is bad

There are no guarantee

[tough bobcat]

How do I get proviso then

I can’t just accept 30k a day ;-;

[orchid bane]

Wait till she in store somehow

[tough bobcat]

I have no cert

[orchid bane]

Maybe you will have later

[tough bobcat]

I haven’t even pull since I rolled on the guaranteed

[orchid bane]

Or just wait for offrate

[leaden grove]

Just get lucky, or pick her in anniversary selector. Everyone gets free 5 star pick in January

Also realistically she’s only gonna bring you up to 40k lol it’s not like shes’s going to double your prod overnight

[tough bobcat]

Its ok

I just need more money

[valid storm]

CE-6

[tough bobcat]

How do you even clear that

It’s so hard

[orchid bane]

Change your to money then

[tough bobcat]

You can?

[leaden grove]

It’s not something you want to be farming anyway

[orchid bane]

=135 san = 3.75 CE- 6

[tough bobcat]

Xd

I can’t clear that stage

They spawn too quick 🥀

[orchid bane]

Oke. I just looked at it for you

[tough bobcat]

And my op are too expensive

[orchid bane]

6* is really terrible

Although

They have good baseskills

But they require even more OP to be E2

Really hard to follow

[cobalt citrus]

here's a low rarity guide its easy

[tough bobcat]

The one on the new standard banner?

[orchid bane]

Yes

Flametail and Ebenholz

Terrible gameplay

[leaden grove]

And the base skills aren’t relevant to you as a newbie anyway

[orchid bane]

Endgame baseskills require really many E2

[tough bobcat]

Do you think this will suffice

I have enough xp to get ascalon to lvl 80

But I’m broke

[leaden grove]

It’s not necessary until you can also afford to e2 her. The level gains are tiny but the costs are exponential

And like I said, you don’t want to be spending sanity to farm LMD or EXP, you rather wait for your base while using sanity to progress story, farm materials you need, farm chips/red certs, or ideally, farm event if there was one that was open right now

[orchid bane]

Don't pull that banner tho

Maybe x10 max, see what 5* you got

[leaden grove]

I did the calculations once, the 5 stars rate up is a bad joke

[orchid bane]

Proviso rate is one out of 6 when you have 5*

1.33% in general to get Prov

No pity

[leaden grove]

5 star rate is 8%, half of which is split between 3 ops, so 16% of 8%💀

[orchid bane]

8% to get 5*

50% to get the rate up one

33.33% to get Proviso

1.33% total

[cobalt citrus]

Idk if you've already done this or not, but you can get alot of lmd from these missions in Integrated Strategies (It takes like 10 - 15 mins of gameplay)

The required operator will be provided to you for free temporarily, so you don't need to build anyone + it doesn't cost any sanity

[tough bobcat]

Oh?

Where can I access this

[cobalt citrus]

ii gotta open the game to get the ss, brb

Open the Terminal and and it should be there

[tough bobcat]

Got it thanks

[cobalt citrus]

Each IS mode has a "battlepass" type system (It's free), which gives you stuff for just playing the gamemode

[tough bobcat]

Free money

[cobalt citrus]

I recommend playing IS5 (Sarkaz furnaceside fables) if you wanna grind, since it's really easy to cheese the gamemode as a beginner

[leaden grove]

Avoid it like the plague if you want to actually learn how to play IS, going backwards would be like entering mountain bike competition the day after removing training wheels

[tough bobcat]

So what should I start on first

[cobalt citrus]

IS2 if you actually wanna learn about integrated strategies

But tbh, i think the Lamp of wishes strat is probably gonna be faster if you just want the lmd

in IS5

[tough bobcat]

I’m not in that much of a rush so ig I’ll do is2

[orchid bane]

Forgot the timer

Put Irene in and see this

Time to reroll

[cobalt citrus]

no irene skin...

delete the account immediately

[orchid bane]

I am into Irene that much

Not even use her lately

[orchid bane]

Still don't get what that text

I'lll Fiinirr1

[digital tendon]

I'ccl

[wind otter]

❌

forgot to time Aroma to Waii Fu moment fml

[inner ocean]

I only need 42 of these to raise every remaining medic I have unraised.
I might start using 9CD to transform T2 medic chips into defender chips once I go over 42 from farming Medic/Def chip stage

[wind otter]

that's crazy considering Warf, Kal, and Shining alters are around the corner, not to mention the Herald of the City of Gold is also coming soon, our first Ambusher healer

Batushka

[shadow frost]

What is the actual difference % wise in lmd for 252 vs 243?

[valid storm]

Around 10%? The difference comes from the need of gold droning in 243, which isn't needed with 252

[shadow frost]

Ah

[valid storm]

thought I only need to drone because of Provisio

[shadow frost]

I might eventually temporarily do 243 briefly because i need to do the campaign missions for dorm ambience which i cant do at 2/1/1/1 dorms

[valid storm]

you can just temporarily downgrade a few factories to meet the power need

[shadow frost]

True.. not going to bother quite yet because i dont think I have the furniture to meet that ambience requirement yet anyways

[valid storm]

depends on how much you whale, for hardcore whales, yes

[orchid bane]

That might be the best strat for them , since they spend on CE, LS anyway

[leaden grove]

FWIW the upgrade materials are very expensive. About a half million LMD just for the dorms iirc

If you do, just make sure you don’t also upgrade reception and office if you haven’t already

[valid storm]

Upgrading the TR room is also a question, it could make the game easier but in most cases you wouldn't notice the difference, the only time it would show anything is when you run high end challenges

[leaden grove]

[west tapir]

You know what i dont like about Clue transfers?
The shading of gray between obtained/missing clues is very similar.

I will try to send a clue to someone who almost has a complete set but because of their custom UI its hard to differenciate between missing and obtained clues

[valid storm]

if you select a clue, you can still see who's missing that one

[west tapir]

Ik that but i try to give it based on completion % something which cant be checked if i only use 1 clue to highlight

For example Batsum banner.
On closer inspection i can comclude that only clue1 is missing cuz it has the background transparency

[orchid bane]

So you prior those who have like 5/7 or 6/7 clues ?

[valid storm]

just give it to someone who needs it

[orchid bane]

Oke, how about those 7s and 2s you gave me

Could you double it and give it to the next person

[valid storm]

You aredefinitely someone who lacks

[valid storm]

fine, you can have some

[wind otter]

This could easily be solved by adding a strip of a single, light color behind the clue numbers but who needs practical solutions?

[west tapir]

Pretty much, if i dont find anyone who needs the clue i keep it for myself and start clue exchange with 4/7

[orchid bane]

Back then we didn't have this problem , so they created it. And when they solve it, players gonna be like

https://tenor.com/view/ceres-discord-moistcritikal-meme-discord-mod-gif-27401218

[wind otter]

"solve"

[tough bobcat]

This guy is good for tp right?

[orchid bane]

Part of Shamere combo

The same as Bibeak, Kafka, Parpika

For Baseskill, you only need max 2 of them

[tough bobcat]

The new banner got a guaranteed 5 star

Should I test my luck

[pale yoke]

Just got this, she good?

[tough bobcat]

Bro

I’m angry

[pale yoke]

Omg another hater

Hi

We like hater here

[tough bobcat]

I hate u ):

[pale yoke]

Me too

[tough bobcat]

Why u get proviso

):

[pale yoke]

We can both hate zyf together tho

[tough bobcat]

You make me want to gamble now

[pale yoke]

Only if you can win

Always gamble if you win

[tough bobcat]

I never lose

[pale yoke]

Easy decision then

If you don't lose you win

[tough bobcat]

50% of not going off rate + 33% for proviso

[languid blaze]

nah don't pull

[tough bobcat]

I need money

[languid blaze]

oh do it if not broken in Ao

[tough bobcat]

What’s ao

[shadow frost]

Yay i have a proviso now.. now i just need to promote her and pair her with quartz in a 2 tp

Now if only i could get shamare from recruitment.. lol

[languid blaze]

buy if available in shop or selection buy

[shadow frost]

Wouldnt shamare only show up in shop if she was on a banner?

[tough bobcat]

Bro.

I tried to get proviso

[shadow frost]

I pulled him the first 10x then did another and got flametail lol. Then did a 1x and got proviso

[tough bobcat]

i hate myself

is this guy even good

[orchid bane]

getting a 6* is easier than getting a Proviso

[tough bobcat]

why...

[orchid bane]

like I said, she is 1.33%

[tough bobcat]

no?

[orchid bane]

no pity

[tough bobcat]

it guaranteed a 5 star in thefirst 10 pulls (or higher)

so its 16.5%

[orchid bane]

a 6* is 2%, yes pity

[orchid bane]

oh but you got a 6* right

little less than that

[tough bobcat]

I hate u

[shadow frost]

[wind otter]

Ebenballz is base meta, but you need some ops you likely don't have

[tough bobcat]

i just read his passive about tp

I can confidently say that i dont understand anything

[wind otter]

he buffs Rosmo

[shadow frost]

I guess if i dont get shamare from the recruitment, i could try to get her via the next kernel locating banner

[orchid bane]

Spread your hatred my friend, the world need it

[tough bobcat]

chen on kal banner now this 😭

[orchid bane]

Need a bunch of limited to use eben

[shadow frost]

I got eben early on in my time on arknights and have never used him for literally anything

[tough bobcat]

is he a good unit

[orchid bane]

already said it

no

[tough bobcat]

is he at least better than amiya

[orchid bane]

This is hard

[tough bobcat]

i mean she is the only caster that i use so it would be better to have another one

[shadow frost]

Get and use logos instead

Or eyja

They are both cracked af casters

[tough bobcat]

i have none of them o-0

[orchid bane]

Eben is a nuker

he nuke the boss

his biggest problem is he has no DPS

so you can't bring him in many stages

[tough bobcat]

i dont think i have that one either...

im gonna cry in a corner now

[shadow frost]

You do have eben, you literally showed that you pulled him trying to pull proviso

[tough bobcat]

I thought that was the full name of the op

[orchid bane]

googluck write all his name down right everytime Ran

[shadow frost]

to be fair, i learned how to spell eyjafjalla's name out from typing it a couple of times lol

[orchid bane]

eyjaobama

oke I quit

[leaden grove]

Functionally, in terms of being worth building, no

We talked about this man

[cobalt citrus]

when will i get fia

[snow garden]

Uh did they change something I just managed to speed up chip production with no drones?

[cobalt citrus]

it takes 1 second per chip now

(0 seconds if you have the vip+ gamepass)

[snow garden]

Oh wow thats a nice change

[pale yoke]

anyone here have a s2m3 robin?

[arctic prism]

nop

[wind otter]

wait, Robin increases training speed with masteries?

[wind otter]

Eben is a very fun operator. His S2 is a crowd-control arts damage skill with which he places something akin to mines that explode in arts damage when enemies are near, they shift the enemies around with often hilarious results.

Eben S3 is tricky skill that allows him to one shot a lot of elite enemies and do critical damage to bosses' health bars, but it will require you to know what you are doing and pay attention to his charges. The problem is that once he does that big shot his DPS plummets.

[orchid bane]

Fun?

Good luck have fun with eben then

[wind otter]

been there, done that

[orchid bane]

Wrong fia target

That was close

[wind otter]

Ambience 1,000

[orchid bane]

I edited it

By paint

[wind otter]

well, well, well, how the turn tables

[wind otter]

clever shit

[wind otter]

tf is this, google images?

[orchid bane]

[cobalt citrus]

You have fia?

[inner ocean]

welp....

it's finally happened

i'm gonna use 9CD procs to exchange T2 chips

easiest way to fuel 9CD is farming 1-7 to make more T3 roccs. And it just so happens I need to replenish it a bit.

[orchid bane]

If byproduct was accurate

[valid storm]

it's not, byproduct should have been

[orchid bane]

[snow garden]

TIL that Snowsant is the biggest efficiency addict in game (out of the 200 op records and files I read at least), she'd definitely stalk this channel

[valid storm]

She's efficient because she always has a lack of resources and wants to do stuff therefore has to optimise everything

she's trying to be more cost efficient than Boeing's management

[shadow frost]

yay

If I'm using proviso, is it better to switch from 252 to 243 or just downgrade one of my TP and use that power to upgrade one of the factories and stay 252?

[digital tendon]

252 👍

[leaden grove]

She makes 243 even worse bc of the gold demand and efficiency of a 2 slot TP

[shadow frost]

Ah

Ok i kept 252 but with 1 lvl 2 tp and 2 lvl3 gold facs instead of 1

[frank linden]

Anyone have png or list of Good/Must have Base slave?

[orchid bane]

Proviso

[frank linden]

Got her, also tequila and shamare build

[orchid bane]

That is the list

[jaunty notch]

pin link 4

[frank linden]

Alr, thx

[south geyser]

new banger dropped

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[swift ridge]

which one should i look at to conclude efficiency?

[inner ocean]

I'm now in a part of the game where it's more "valuable" to use 9CD on chips since I'm raising everyone

mats are just easier to replenish than chip farming

[orchid bane]

Sure ppl will get there if they are playing long enough. Some of T3 has been being added to the unlimited event store , make its value drop

[orchid bane]

But back then we have alot of sniper , now there are ton of new caster, it makes me regret converting some caster chip

[shadow frost]

Should I be doing 252 max right or max left? I think im doing max right rn

[jaunty notch]

max left

once you max right you can't go back you know

[meager meadow]

yeah don't go max right

[inner ocean]

I have only started converting the moment I can count how many chips I have versus how many specific class ops are still unraised

and for me that's Medic class

I'm going above the number of medic chips needed for my present e0 lvl1 medics

[orchid bane]

[swift ridge]

what is the exact effect of using 9CD on chips

[inner ocean]

it gives you a T2 chip as an extra

in other words, instead of a -1 T2 chip loss

it's a net neutral

[swift ridge]

Any reason to max hr office to level 3? Can keep at level 2?

[orchid bane]

The only reason is you have more recruitment permit than you can't spend them somehow

Otherwise 3 slot is good enough

[swift ridge]

In that case, should that last upgrade go to Factory or TP?

[orchid bane]

In 252 It is always recommended to raise max 2 TP just one TP lv go down by 1 when you have Proviso

The rest go to fac

[inner ocean]

There was merit turning your setup into a 3 TP temporarily to burn all that gold bars

this was....PRE-PROVISO

post-Proviso, 2 TPs are enough to burn through your entire stock by just doing 3 EXP

and that's me with a LOT of factory slots

others still struggle to keep up with Proviso with 3 gold

[swift ridge]

I have Provisio, so will just max Factory

What are the rotation teams though

[inner ocean]

you could look at all the regulars here sharing their schedules

see if you have most of the operators they use

search image in this channel

you might find something that strikes your operators

also check the Team Combos in pinned #4

I am 8 above the necessary count.

9CD once again has a job.

[vagrant blaze]

necessary?

[inner ocean]

if i raise every unraised medic i have

there's still a surplus

[orchid bane]

you using this as fodder or casualty ?

[inner ocean]

lacking defender chips by a lot

while medic has a surplus

I will keep feeding 9CD T2 roccs from 1-7

I need the T3 roccs anyways

[orchid bane]

but are you gonna use those medic chip to build up or to exchange it ?

[inner ocean]

8 surplus

I'm turning them to defender chips

the rest can still be used by my unraised medics

[orchid bane]

[inner ocean]

this is just me trying to get value out of the shit luck i have from chip stages

[orchid bane]

oke bad eng, I mean you gonna use it for 0-37 or 38-39 9CD causualty ?

[inner ocean]

yes

on proc

i really do not have many incentives to use 9CD proc on T4 crafting anymore

T3 mats ain't that much of a hassle these days

[orchid bane]

tbh I think its value is bad compare to random tier 3

[inner ocean]

sure

[orchid bane]

tier 2 chip, it is oke

but tier 1 chip is bad

[inner ocean]

but the mat stockpile says otherwise

for now I'm taking the value loss presently

value is only as good as what it looks like in the bigger picture

[orchid bane]

maybe just use bagpipe for those chip is good enough ?

[inner ocean]

and the big picture i have is being chip gated

hmmmmm

[orchid bane]

and leave the casualty for t3 mat

[inner ocean]

thats a decent suggestion

I'm still using 9CD proc on T2 chips

in T1, yes i am reconsidering maybe using Bagpipe

[orchid bane]

been saving up some 9CD fodder mat for chap 15

we will have new tier 3 then

hope I could get some from 9CD

Lemuen and Exu2 burn new tier 5 like crazy

[inner ocean]

based on my experiences on the latest new mats we got in global.....

yeah I'm not gonna be all too enticed with it

maybe if it's just in demand

Although it looks like I will need those new mats for Geexu, Tragodia, Hoshitter, and Haruka

so that's kind of a bitch

[orchid bane]

this is new mat for exia2 and Lemuen

I will fully build them

maybe you don't so could be less for you

but look at that 19 new tier 5

[inner ocean]

I will just farm what's needed

[orchid bane]

[inner ocean]

not gonna farm a stockpile

in the end story farming is just when you can't wait for when an event makes it a farm option

[orchid bane]

gonna m9 Lemuen to work for my base Asap

need her to replace Hoe

[inner ocean]

@jaunty notch What would you recommend if I want to transform some T1 chips into a different class?:

• Use it to fuel 9CD
• Proc 9CD's refund with it
• Do it using Bagpipe

[orchid bane]

oh yeah I have another option

don't do it at all

cause new one in store might troll you

say .. you about to craft medic right ?

but what if they are gonna make like more defender welfare

[inner ocean]

even my spec chips haven't gone as badly as my T1 & T2 medic chips.

Craft medic?

I'm turning medics into defenders

[orchid bane]

I meant convert

eng suck

💀

[inner ocean]

i mean why'd you think i started converting them?

there's way more medic chips than i necessarily need

and I need some defender chips for Miks and Hoshitter

thats not including all the unraised 5* defenders i have

[orchid bane]

just saying it, when you start converting them, the future OP can always mess you up

you could just farm them then

[orchid bane]

Like myself regret converting caster chip

[inner ocean]

farming new chips is no issue

it's when the count goes beyond what i need

and it's medic season right now for me

if you're talking about stockpiling chips for new ops that haven't released yet....

yeah, I am not planning for that just yet

that's way WAY too far right now

that's technically a status wherein I have raised every operator I have to at least E2 40 SL7

i am slowly getting to it. I've done a decent enough job that the only operators I have to raise are 5* only. And I'll just raise any new 4* and 6* I get immediately

[orchid bane]

but yea I believe you get the point, We are just talking about 18 san Item, even if you make bad choice, what so wrong could it be, losing 18 san in so far future ?

just do what you see fit then

[inner ocean]

it's not even a loss in the far future

not when I've gotten so much of a surplus without a balanced amt of class chips

it anything, it just keeps getting worse

sure, if you farm it enough, chip stages would be close to a 50/50

but the problem is

class operators aren't made in the same amount

there's too many guards and the amt of specialists can't beat it for example

[orchid bane]

I believe it is only a loss when you want to convert defender chip in the future, but sure, that could be really far future, and still, just 18 san

[orchid bane]

oh yeah , I am having more guard T1 with no spec chip atm

cause I guess RNG or, there are more guard welfere

[inner ocean]

there's also some classes that don't get as many to raise. I can imagine the amt of supporter and vanguard chip stages are farmed less than the others.

[orchid bane]

Dang it