r-i-i-c

[pallid isle]

always has been better

[crystal pewter]

wait what? we are getting a bunch of QOLs a month earlier than cn did?

[pallid isle]

the fact the qol is real after all this time is just still a shock to the system but also yeah kinda funny

[crystal pewter]

finally a global W

[wind otter]

where are my contract bounty though

[jaunty notch]

fun fact, 243 got even worse after the update

[woeful galleon]

how come

[jaunty notch]

diminishing returns

to be specific, you get extra credits and trust farming

which in 243 is much less value due to how you can already buy all the discounted items with 252, and higher level dorms

you don't get anything else beyond 200 trust right?

so now, 252 with less trust gain for more production got a helping hand

whereas 243 just has 3 legs for no reason

[woeful galleon]

i see

[jaunty notch]

tldr: update covers 252's weaknesses much better than 243

even CN's most well-known base cc switched their base to 342 now

and honestly 252 > 243 has always been common sense across all communities

[woeful galleon]

i mean ive been 252 since a long time ago just curious

[jaunty notch]

oh yeah no worries

if you want, you can look up the qol tab in the base doc

and read up on the changes

[woeful galleon]

just got done reading the doc actually

although tbh ill probably forget the info by the time the upd comes

so i'll just reread and ask when the time comes i guess

oh

but since im here

how much stuff would i lose out on if i use R6S team vs a "optimal" team instead

[jaunty notch]

a lot

[woeful galleon]

dang.

i just want my lazy team

[wind otter]

So, from now on, if I want to have full sanity for an upcoming event I would need to stop using sanity exactly 12 hrs before reset. 11.5 hrs to prevent sanity cap or just 11 hrs if I will be doing time consuming shenanigans before starting the event stages. Cool.

[jaunty notch]

you want to maximize the tokens?

[whole tapir]

so somehow my factories couldn’t output enough gold to keep up with the trading posts and I realize eventually I will run out of my stockpile of pure gold. And I don’t know how to fix this honestly.

[jaunty notch]

swap 1 fac to gold or drone gold?

or were you droning gold already

[orchid bane]

if you somehow low on XP and are using drone on Prov you could try to use drone on XP

that is also a way to save gold

[whole tapir]

Ah
forgot that part
I always keep forgetting drones

[jaunty notch]

problem solved

[wind otter]

huh?

[jaunty notch]

yeah like do you want to start the event with close to max sanity

cuz like it's almost unnecessary to clear all the shop

esp if you have monthly

since the event starts at 00:00 for me , I usually just clear all sanity before that and spend the 60 ish on normal stages

i actually appreciate good sleep now y know

old

👴

[wind otter]

I'm thinking on doing that, at least after clearing shop, farm normal stages, but this event around I need both Gel and Solvent so all sanity I can spend there helps.

Sometimes I wonder if our experiences are kind of different, considering the fact that you are near game launch gamer while I joined 1 year and something later. Maybe your headstart makes things a little less hectic for you when it comes to farming, idk.

[jaunty notch]

yeah, totally

it might change when I finish M3-ing 200 skills, but for now...

[wind otter]

for now you can admire the loot

those good ol' dead weeks, I miss 'em, hardly knew 'em

[wide pike]

HG pleaseee, downgrade feature on right side

[wind otter]

have you tried writing that in the limited event survey?

[jaunty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

suggestions haven't worked in the previous years but this year is the one, I can feel it, it will be different

[inner ocean]

what are the base updates incoming for global in Vina's event?

just crafting QoLs?

[wind otter]

the 5.5 anni base updates too:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?pli=1&gid=976762004#gid=976762004

[inner ocean]

ok separating work areas and resting areas is a nice boon

wait no

you can't proviso easily with it

ok this is something i really like.

Quick rotates don't work if ops aren't distracted?

actually i think it's best i ask about these once the update is up

[round lichen]

This?

[ivory idol]

So am I not able to downgrade the right side stuff

I realize that I fucked up while playing o4iginally and I'm 3333 over there

[pallid isle]

Bros out of beta he has even further right side upgraded

Yeah though you can't downgrade right side but.its fine you can still do 252

[leaden grove]

Is there any cool tech for training Amiya?? Like, she benefits from all 3 class trainers like she does from IS vouchers? Or you can switch her form mid training from medic to caster and benefit from logos skill?

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

@leaden grove

[leaden grove]

Some in help tried using medic trainer on castermiya and that wasn’t working wither

[fluid pollen]

[round dock]

just realized I've likely got more EXP and LMD than I can use for the next 6 months, what options are there for orundum farming, as it really worth the gains?

oh, we get quick shifting next week?!

[languid blaze]

if you get enough rock for next 6 month probably

[round dock]

I guess I can always farm 1-7

[languid blaze]

well having spare rock can smooth Ao farm

[round dock]

I have 4000 t2 rock

question is, do I do 333 or stay 252?

I've never really seriously looked into it

[languid blaze]

just do on your current layout

[round dock]

I planned ops up to Eblana, and if I only build the 6* ops, I've got and excess of 10mil EXP and 12mil LMD

[languid blaze]

losing 2 or 3 mil exp/lmd wouldn't hurt

[round dock]

not at all TBH

since that's literally what I had been wasting my sanity on outside of events

[languid blaze]

convert all fac to shard and tp to ao

[round dock]

I don't build a ton of ops anymore, base hasn't really gotten anyone new in what feels like months

[round dock]

downside to that is efficiency

2/2/2/3/3 is my current factory setup

3 level 2 Gold, 2 level 3 EXP

~700 gold bars

I mean, Ros/Waai Fu can still be used for 1 (need subs figured out)

[languid blaze]

do 1 ao tp 1 shard fac

[round dock]

level 2 or level 3 TP?

[languid blaze]

lvl 3 tp lvl3 shard

[round dock]

running Proviso/Nothing in one, Shamare in the other

[languid blaze]

remove shama team

[round dock]

with that I can run Ebenholz

[languid blaze]

yes

[round dock]

or Glasgow

since that seems to be a strong combo

[languid blaze]

just mind overcap ao tp and shard fac

[round dock]

what's the collection times on those?

I mean, Gnosis/Jaye/Swire/SA are a thing

[languid blaze]

8-10
yes gnosis team good 12h+

pozy 6h

[round dock]

Gnosis appears to be 129% too

problem is fitting him into the CC, kill off Amiya?

that seems counter intuitive

what about if I did 2 level 2 Golds to AO?

can do Rosmontis/Waai Fu in one, with Eben in the TP

[pallid isle]

When I did cursed I sometimes killed amyia

It's like 20% for Delph

[round dock]

other has Chestnut/Eyja?

[round dock]

forgot about her

[pallid isle]

6% upgrade is 6% upgrade ig

[round dock]

indeed

[languid blaze]

overcap real quick
ido lvl3 vul/buble/chest also 12h+

[round dock]

my CC's been full for so long...

longest I typically go without collecting is 10hrs

though I can do a level 3 with Ros/Waai Fu/Chestnut

sub would be who though?

Eyja/Dorothy/Silence Alter?

I'm not the most well versed on conversions for AO to Orundum etc

would you drone that TP too?

[languid blaze]

if shard can catch up

[round dock]

shards from factory?

[languid blaze]

ye

tp gnosis team
shard bubble/vul/chestnut
sub
texas/lapp/chilchuk
shard ceobe/Silencealt/Doro
simple 12h cap ao farm

[round dock]

and what's that look like for production?

[languid blaze]

i think 350-400 ao daily?

[round dock]

and that translates to how much orundum?

[languid blaze]

380 Artificial Orundumb

[round dock]

I see

and 380 AO is 380 Orundum?

[languid blaze]

may exaggerated, idk long time no ao. yes

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

That was the conversion of old CC currency to new CC currency. I'm referring to the 1,000 Crystals CN got as compensation which was never given to global and that we should have received with the currency conversion.

[inner ocean]

thats mah boi, Arene!

[lime ocean]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Darkrai

who are the base slaves im missing?

[pallid isle]

e2 aroma, e2 scene, e2 tequilla, e2 bibeak + diamte, entire pinus combo flametail viv ashlock fartooth wildmane

thats the bigger stuff

smaller stuff is like

mumu for 5% pp

vigil for an extra 40% or rr worker

oh wow conviction and purestream aren't e1?

thats super fast easy cheep upgrade

check pin 4 for combos but i would prioritize e1 conviction and purestream e1 to start if your gonna raise anything for base

[elder surge]

oh, we are getting sanity cap increase next patch.
135 -> 180
why not just give us 240.... is allowing us to log in once a day really that bad? cmon bruh

[pallid isle]

also finally qol for new players to not brick themselves with primes

its set to hard 135 i believe

so no more early mistakes with that

[stoic spoke]

As there are more gold teams now, is it a good idea to run 36hrs of 4 Gold + 1 EXP (for pozy + proviso) and then 12hrs of 2 Gold 3 EXP (pozy downtime)?

Currently I'm doing pozy with 3 Gold 2 EXP all the time.

Edit: looks like tecno is a new durin. She can help boost tuye without having to change from 3 to 4 gold FACs

[plain gust]

What's shamare/tequila/bibeak ROI ? Assuming i would have to e2 all of them
Would it be worth it ?
Current TP lv3 rotas are jaye/lappy/tex and i switch them for 90%+ generals workers during downtime

[pallid isle]

idk the roi but probably years

[fluid pollen]

Last we checked Tequila e2 pay off time assuming Shamare was already e2’d is approx 2.3 yrs with e0 bibeak/tailoring.

[pallid isle]

someone correct me here but i think the only e2 thats not over a year is proviso with 90 days with a 30%

[fluid pollen]

Bibeak’s is unquantifiable.

[plain gust]

Damn i guess it's not an option then, thanks

[fluid pollen]

That said you can still run the comp with e2 Shamare E0 Teq and E0 tailoring.

Shamare herself is a pretty good op.

[plain gust]

It was also pretty much the only one i would have considered using gameplay wise, so i might do that yeah
Thanks

[fluid pollen]

Not sure what partner they used but I think it’s like 4 mths with 252.

[pallid isle]

maybe it was a 40% then for 90 days?

in any case its extremely fast when you cionsider its months and not years

[plain gust]

Are those calcs taking droning into account ?

[fluid pollen]

Pozemka caps out at 4 durins so Techno doesn’t +, have to ask curse Pozy guys for feedback on how they run their facs.

[fluid pollen]

Yes pretty sure they do.

[stoic spoke]

Oh

[fluid pollen]

Ye fast compared to the rest.

[stoic spoke]

Also not doing cursed. Requires playing 24x7

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Hey Zyf.

[uncut dome]

Hello

[fluid pollen]

-sleeptime.

[uncut dome]

Hmmm I need to check that Proviso ROI again, I forgot if that accounted for the extra gold she eats

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

Ohh it doesn't account for it, it just uses LMD difference

[pale yoke]

[round dock]

Zyf, can your sheet calculate Orundum?

[uncut dome]

It can't

I planned to do it before but I decided not to since orundumb farming has issues with overcapping and it's generally gated by how much rocc you get daily so there would be inconsistencies anw

[stoic spoke]

Would you rather have gigabuffed Gold and LMD production with 4gold+pozy+proviso or keep a balanced EXP production with 3gold 2exp?

4gold Fac with sham+teq+kirara+amiya makes proviso+pozy+tuye 265%

[uncut dome]

Running 4 GOLD would be more efficient but you need to balance it out with drones and the alternate shift

[fluid pollen]

Well expected. Just don’t calc the new number so we can continue the propaganda.

[stoic spoke]

What about Exp shortage

[uncut dome]

Drone exp

[fluid pollen]

We love exp droning.

[stoic spoke]

[uncut dome]

Don't be too fixated on droning LMD cuz of the big number, it eats GOLD too

[stoic spoke]

My drones are only for proviso

Gold seems to be accumulating

Without droning

[uncut dome]

I don't want to spread propaganda but if you're meeting your LMD needs then droning EXP is better than droning LMD

[uncut dome]

Perks of having 332 GOLD factories

[fluid pollen]

Gotta shoot him fr.

[uncut dome]

Tbh I'm also having a bit of an increase in GOLD instead of a deficit

I should prob go do 13/11 now with Ros on EXP

[fluid pollen]

Have been droning exp and swapping exp gold flex.

Seems to slowly decrease gold.

[jaunty notch]

Yeah i kept getting gold increases even tho i use ros in xp

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

I still need more LMD cuz need to finish some 5* modules

[jaunty notch]

New operator be like

Turn all yellow xp into gold

[stoic spoke]

[uncut dome]

Converter with bonus actually sounds nice but weird

[fluid pollen]

Btw have we all given up on Pepe yet.

[uncut dome]

They should've added that instead of some trust rooms

[uncut dome]

No, I saw PeterYR vid and saw she's the best

[fluid pollen]

Those trust rooms, so terrible.

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Time to April 2nd.

[stoic spoke]

If only they increased pozy's durin cap from 4 to 5, all of this would've been possible without disbalancing Exp production

[fluid pollen]

You can run 4 exp while your 4 gold is dead ig.

[stoic spoke]

True but then the teams would be whack

All exp teams at once

[uncut dome]

That's what you get for having almost max left privileges

[fluid pollen]

True.

[uncut dome]

We get an extra EXP worker soon

Best frd in the game

[pale yoke]

4fac xp isn't so bad before aroma

now if you do 4xp feels like wasted potential on gold part

[fluid pollen]

Best and most balanced frd.

Don’t really need that much gold production tbf.

[pale yoke]

now i have 2 gold 1 xp 2 flex

[fluid pollen]

😮

[pale yoke]

simply because aroma fixed on 1 and the other one being bryo/pure

[stoic spoke]

Let me math on the sheet if 36hrs 4gold1xp + 12hr 2gold3xp is feasible

[fluid pollen]

Which are the flex options?

[uncut dome]

Dory AH?

[pale yoke]

flex is ros/weedy/main
feater/conviction/mayer/skadi/specter

[fluid pollen]

Oh hmm ic.

[pale yoke]

when weedy rest skadi take her place, when ros rest skadi specter take the spot

mayer is for 4gold of course

but if gladiia have morale ill have ros + specter gold and bryo weedy can rest

[fluid pollen]

Well ah things.

[uncut dome]

Wth Mayer usage in 2025

[fluid pollen]

Lul.

[stoic spoke]

Should I get eunectes from the selector?

[fluid pollen]

What selector?

[stoic spoke]

Sounds retarted

[stoic spoke]

Upcoming

[uncut dome]

Kernel selector?

[stoic spoke]

Yes

[uncut dome]

Iirc it's $5 cheaper than a normal one

[fluid pollen]

Wha there’s a kernel selector?

Like paid one?

[uncut dome]

There is

Yea

[round dock]

fair, just hard to calculate everything else if I exclude that TP

mainly trying to figure out if 2 level 2 Gold can maintain Proviso/Nothing

[pale yoke]

either mayer or spot
makes no dif there

[fluid pollen]

Well anything for base.

[round dock]

then turn my 3rd level 2 into EXP

[pale yoke]

not enough gold 35+ atm

[fluid pollen]

Good gold workers.

Don’t exist.

[round dock]

sure they do

Eunectes team isn't bad

[pale yoke]

see i've included eun team already

lmao

[stoic spoke]

where would she fit in the cc?

[round dock]

I run 3 level 2 Gold and can drone Proviso just fine

[stoic spoke]

2 shift in cc for dead lancet and then 1 shift as normal worker?

that way mlynar will get 12hr with 2 smiley and another 12hr with 1

[uncut dome]

Replace 2 Młynar and 1 Smiley

[fluid pollen]

Mlynar most irrelevant cc op. 🥹

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Not using Marcille or are you using her already?

You have Chongyue

[pale yoke]

how would marcille be better?

[fluid pollen]

Oh right 33321.

Marcille is 32%.

[uncut dome]

31%

He's 33321

[pale yoke]

but you need to use other in base right?

[fluid pollen]

But isn’t she based on dorm level.

[uncut dome]

She is

33321 has all lvl1 dorms

[fluid pollen]

Oh rly.

Interesting.

[pale yoke]

yea

[uncut dome]

Need Senshi E2 in a dorm

[pale yoke]

yea im still waiting for chip

update

[uncut dome]

Oh right

[fluid pollen]

💳

I hear this fixes the issues.

[uncut dome]

Just use instant E2, trust

We got some in store rn

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Bruhhh

[fluid pollen]

lol.

[uncut dome]

This guy really prepared them

[fluid pollen]

He’s queuing them up like sheep to slaughter.

[pale yoke]

[round dock]

Ugh trying to make rotations to do AO is annoying

[pale yoke]

just another day of fia edging

[jaunty notch]

smh imagine not having enough morale

[wind otter]

clutch

[stoic spoke]

hold my proviso

[pale yoke]

im a curse user, i dont think you know how curse I am

[stoic spoke]

[jaunty notch]

now it's a lv2 tp

for us

[stoic spoke]

give the secret cursing automation technology

[pale yoke]

155 on lv2 tp not using amiya in CC
and swap every1hr 14min

or 54 min

it's in my dna

[wind otter]

that's cursed

[jaunty notch]

162 for me yeah, we're the same

it's 54m for 2g and 1h19m for 3

so i set 40m and 64m timers

spare 15m for each order

[pale yoke]

i just do n-3min and drone whatever 3min left

4min = 6min + few sec in drone time

absolute curse knowledge

[jaunty notch]

i just use more drones so they won't overflow

you can just look at the time skipped, swap prov in at 15s and drone

[stoic spoke]

What does the base report look like after so much painstaking effort

[jaunty notch]

i don't know man

looks normal?

[stoic spoke]

like 100k LMD per day?

[jaunty notch]

gee i wish

[pale yoke]

lmao

[stoic spoke]

Show

[pale yoke]

something like this

the point isn't turbo boosting lmd but more resources into xp

but i probably do have a report for lmd droning somewhere in here just gona look for it

[stoic spoke]

dam

[pale yoke]

@stoic spoke yea i think this one is tp drone one

[stoic spoke]

but man

doing that every hour

literally labor

[pale yoke]

when others are playing IS/RA im playing base rotation

[stoic spoke]

[wind otter]

why not play all three?

[little osprey]

could someone show me their gold/xp/lmd riic income on 252 right side fully upgraded base? ever since i started using proviso and shamare teams in my tp my lmd income is a bit too high for the gold product while using 243

[leaden grove]

Well that’s exactly why

[leaden grove]

243 can’t keep up with good tps, you will want to switch and do 3 gold 2 exp until you find a good balance

[little osprey]

is that a fully min maxed 252 base? with stuff like ah and other synergies

[leaden grove]

No I don’t have everyone

I’m also being fairly aggressive on EXP, so my gold has about 5-10% deficit compared to my lmd, I could make more

[little osprey]

can lv2 factories only use 2 units like lv2 tp?

[leaden grove]

Yeah but it’s fine

[jaunty notch]

yeah, still decent combo synergy

[leaden grove]

It’s still a big upgrade since the factory has inherent +100% to overall production

[little osprey]

ok im converting

[leaden grove]

Remember to do lvl 2 tp for proviso if you have a good worker for her, so that you can have 2x lvl 3 factories

[little osprey]

only caring about 2 in factory seems easier management(maybe)

who would be a good worker for her?

[leaden grove]

Depends who you have, can check combo guide pin #4

[little osprey]

i could do full wp team i think but that seems like a hussle

quartz it is

[jaunty notch]

past report but nothing has changed from that time

[round dock]

when trading for AO, is the Factory better to have a higher % for?

like with Proviso, obviously stack gold, is this similar for trading AO?

dawned on me that I get best of both worlds, sub TP is better than main team, and Fia Waai Fu/Chestnut/Proviso

[wind otter]

CN anniv will have a second Fiammetta skill, I can feel it

[jaunty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[wind otter]

I saw it in a dream, dreams are never wrong!

[jaunty notch]

i saw it in a dream where I'm haimao too

[wind otter]

So you are Hai Mao! Then gato, c'mon! Make it happen!

[jaunty notch]

wu jing fa chuan wo jing xiao

[wind otter]

lost in translation

[jaunty notch]

nah that's totally me spoiling the 6th anniversary

definitely not me knowing zero chinese and spouting gibberish

[wind otter]

[obtuse wyvern]

[obtuse wyvern]

***

[jaunty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-ex-aid-exaid-kamen-rider-kamen-rider-poppy-poppy-gif-23072305

[obtuse wyvern]

😭

[wind otter]

next update should be potato phone death

[fluid pollen]

Make collection have explosion effects like how Reed explodes your potato phone in RA.

[wind otter]

I wonder if those phones can even make it to the home screen

nah, that must be an exaggeration

[stoic spoke]

why

[wind otter]

next update should add antialiasing

wait, right, EN hasn't shared any specifics in the game changes, it was JP lol

[jaunty notch]

CN

[wind otter]

CN has new changes with game optimization

I am talking about antialiasing which comes with Lappy2 event and we should be getting earlier I assume, I think JP talked about it some days ago, give me a sec

[jaunty notch]

well honestly

it comes when it comes

[wind otter]

ok, found the details about the antialising update that came during Lappy2 update that we should be getting next and the new system requirements:

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1gga9jd/several_qol_features_will_be_deployed_in_nov_1/

I guess we still have some days for EN to talk about them

[stoic spoke]

anti aliasing in a tower defense

[wind otter]

wait until you see HG add ray-tracing

[jaunty notch]

surely pre base out of beta system update

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315239589254004787/1357633111374041098/AKWLSPT_-_1907749804593348763.gif

[inner ocean]

Vina's event means 1 step closer to Crownslayer

[clever quarry]

someone's reallyyyy excited for 35% exp

[pale yoke]

thorn alter

[inner ocean]

it's a 5% increase

i won't say no to that

especially during 3 EXP times

and yeah Thornster is also in my list of goals

[wind otter]

needs E2

[stoic spoke]

e2 everything

ROI is scam propaganda made by poors

[valid storm]

ROI is for the planning, higher ROI, higher priority

[fluid pollen]

Base is scam propaganda made by efficient poors.

[stoic spoke]

[valid storm]

[stuck crow]

anyone has MR shifts with jessalter i can look at?

amazingly i can't even seem to fit silence alter + doro duo in my current shifts

ish?

[novel pier]

To people who uses 243 Exodia how much micro management is it and what is the amount of LMD/EXP output?

I’m missing dusk/shu/rosmontis but I can prob spark ros on lap banner and spam buy packs to prepare to spark both Dusk/Shu on Yu banner

[pallid isle]

then your missing key pieces to even make the micromangement heavier

but it really depnds on how far you wanna go

do you wanna do full cursed

and fia other key compoenents

with harder rotations

"how much" in this case depends on how far you wanna go

to a certain degree

[novel pier]

Don’t rlly have a limit. I can go as far as needed to finish the full setup. That being said tho I do have most of the other units done from just playing the game the last 5 years.

[pallid isle]

take a look at pin 4 for main info on it if you haven't already check gatos rotations as a start

main thing that looks annoying is making sure you don't over heal dusk or leave her to long in dorms

make sure to swap out ling and dusk at proper times and such

[wind otter]

[little osprey]

good idea

[jaunty notch]

I like the critique

[wind otter]

[fluid pollen]

Well it is a request.

[jaunty notch]

it's on feedback > issues

so even the place is wrong

[fluid pollen]

Ouch.

[valid storm]

Don't worry, I have closed the ticket and will delete it later

[wind otter]

What if that "issue" had made it all the way from yostar to hg and we had unlimited orundum? Think of all the furniture you could buy if primes could have been freed?

[valid storm]

doesn't matter, it wasn't an issue, and I have a duty to try to upkeep the order

[wind otter]

sheriffs will sheriff

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

[valid storm]

yup, and I have to stay a sheriff in order to spread 342 propaganda

[wind otter]

[obtuse wyvern]

[wind otter]

53 mins

Predictions on the animated spine's skill? I can only think about some CC stuff related something, she's hard to read.

[pallid isle]

considering its true damage i mean maybe

[wind otter]

imagine if she buffs Kal's skill and adds something else worthwhile, yeah, not happening

[jaunty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[wind otter]

c'mon, I said "not happening" gato

sucks to be right

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Better than Kal.

Ig she goes in instead.

For flex rights.

[valid storm]

What are the new base skills?

[fluid pollen]

Pretty much nothing.

[valid storm]

I still wanna know what they are

[wind otter]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?pli=1&gid=890953453#gid=890953453

[glossy dust]

what are the new CN base skills

[dull python]

wrys

what was the conversion between factory% gold and pp%

[jaunty notch]

1/2

nothing new this patch

tldr

[dull python]

1/2 how
1% fac = 2% pp?

[jaunty notch]

yeah

[dull python]

ok then Alana shit

[jaunty notch]

1 drone takes 6m, speeds up 3

her best is the same as a 30% and 3 20% pp

[dull python]

land ship expansion when HG

[jaunty notch]

but 243 can use her still

[dull python]

where

you mean poor 243

[jaunty notch]

in a mid investment scenario, she's the same as a 30% gold with 3 20% PP workers

which is still decent for a lot of players

she also avoids 243 capping drones in less than 12h

[uncut dome]

She's at best a 35% value when you use JK with Pinus team

But stuck with a 30%

[jaunty notch]

yeah she's overall not that good

[winged hollow]

is she good with dead lancet setup?

[uncut dome]

Pretty sure she won't count dead Lancet

So no bonus from that

[unique mauve]

alanna base skill is a fraud, right?

[jaunty notch]

I actually think she would like how Eun does, but at the same time it's useless

[languid blaze]

Kal bodyguard for millennium, can heal. right spine-chan is medic/def Irene

[round lichen]

It’s crazy to me that Alanna needs Warmy specifically

[valid storm]

No, they are friends

[jaunty notch]

Alanna is from Ray's story

same with Warmy

[orchid bane]

Is the new op metalwork ?

Dang. I don't have Logos, maybe he could make her 37.5%

[pale yoke]

are we looking at new meta?

[jaunty notch]

in the trash can? yeah sure

[stoic spoke]

mon3tr has a smiley skill?

[pale yoke]

heh so nothing change

[stoic spoke]

upgraded kaltsit

[pale yoke]

i mean...even kal is out the window since ulpi

some would argue even before that

but i digress

[orchid bane]

Is mon3tr smiley ?

[stoic spoke]

Im still using her

[pale yoke]

peak performance base have no slot for kal

i mean unless you messed up then yea use kal as a buffer

[orchid bane]

How can I tell from that ?

[orchid bane]

Is she work with Mlynar

[stoic spoke]

[pale yoke]

nice

[orchid bane]

Yeah I can use her for

Friend's acc

[pale yoke]

vivi ft mly m3tr + eun

omg

[stoic spoke]

wtfart friend's account base slavery

[pale yoke]

literally neglecting AH

[stoic spoke]

IRL slavery

[stoic spoke]

how to make AH last 12hrs

[pale yoke]

you dont

[orchid bane]

Put all 4 of them in dorm

Last forever

[stoic spoke]

no fiametta technology to somehow 12hrs?

[pale yoke]

well if you fia sure

but BOI your fia gona have a good time

[orchid bane]

Maybe fia with Gladia + 4 R6s

And that is close

Still gotta rest Gladia sometime

[stoic spoke]

base skill module update when

meh

gladia dies too fast to fia

even with smileys

I need a second fia

[pale yoke]

oh i just foundout timezone changed

daylight saving i guess

apparently CN annouced they launching PC client

[wind otter]

you're joking

[pale yoke]

im asked and verify with a CN cc

he just confirmed yup they did announced it

just now

[jaunty notch]

is that CN acc in the room with us

[pale yoke]

no he's streaming lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj3BEAa1IHw

i watch him the most amongst the cn creator

now he's talking about the issue of PC client development and why they had to scrap the idea and rebuilt from the ground

[wind otter]

did he say where he found out?

[pale yoke]

i didnt ask lol

but i dont see why he would lie

lets just say he was lying then

idk why i need to bat for him lol

[wind otter]

Hope he's right. If it is official I guess the news will be posted in the next minutes.

[pale yoke]

he mentioned in passing, from the context it sounds like they did had a pc beta client before and they had a test but it was taking too much processing power on PC and something to do with file being too big

im not so tech savvy so some technical terms i dont really know but seems like cn is developing it

but also he say it probably will take even longer before it reaches other server

EN wait long long

[wind otter]

hmm, I guess we wait and see.

[pale yoke]

yea

[wind otter]

you sure he wasn't trying to guess why we don't have the client yet?

[jaunty notch]

it comes when it comes

[wind otter]

instead of being an official announcement

[wind otter]

I imagine Buddha talking when you write that

[pale yoke]

when i heard he say something about the pc client i ask him did they (cn official) say they are building a pc client?
he says: yea cn did, but it will take a while before other server get a pc client tho (probably because of my name he figured im not a cn player

[wind otter]

hmm

[pale yoke]

and then he proceed to talk about the development process in the past ^ like i say above

it's a logical move on HG part too, building one
they even show themself playing the game on pc during their promotional vid

ANYWAY

[inner ocean]

nice base update in CN.

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[inner ocean]

[wind otter]

the boy cried wolf

[orchid bane]

@valid storm

do you have that sanity calculation link for Vina event ?

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

yes, but it's not public yet

[orchid bane]

[valid storm]

Can give you numbers though

[summer kernel]

Is there a way to see how much CC morale drain or how much time is left on a CC operator?

[orchid bane]

So, how many sanity left for f2p ?

[valid storm]

Excess Sanity for F2P: 3,779- 4,743 = -964 (-564 without )

[orchid bane]

Lately HG really hate f2p

I should clear anni now

[uncut dome]

[pale yoke]

[jaunty notch]

not until this july

or august

but you can look at cc morale drain, it's always been there

[summer kernel]

Isnt that hard stuck at 0.25 for a level 5 CC regardless of any smileys and such?

[jaunty notch]

oh yeah it's a doodoo

it does go down when you remove an operator tho

[summer kernel]

I guess I could just put the operator into a dorm and do some math

[jaunty notch]

just get them out when they die lol

[stoic spoke]

it used to be clearable for free when did they change it

[valid storm]

about 2 years ago?

[stoic spoke]

dam

[orchid bane]

There are many times like this

Not just now

[wind otter]

yeah, it has become increasingly common, and yet they pretend to sell the idea that purchasable old mats in event store can remedy the cluster-f that is the constant introduction of new mats, when the store is barely clearable for f2p. I have monthly so this doesn't affect me, but new mats piss me off.

[orchid bane]

Hmm

I said that but I didn't complain about it much

Cause f2p can always skip the module mod 2 3

And go for SSS monthly

SSS monthly are more than enough that

So basically, newbie can always clear the store lately, it just more SSS work for them if they don't mind

[uncut dome]

Wtf it's been that long

Ig I was pretty good with saving sanity pots back then hmm

[wind otter]

What do you mean? Sticks and Instruments are so precious and scarce. It isn't like I am sitting on 2,140 sticks and 590 instruments.

[orchid bane]

their names ?

I don't even remember them

[fluid pollen]

Skip mod 2 and 3?

You mean those super impt mats?

[orchid bane]

Ye, basically noone has to buy them, just do SSS and you have more than enough

[fluid pollen]

None buys them tho.

Or well SSS is pretty terrible too.

[orchid bane]

Idk, maybe those who would like to do less SSS or those who don't even know they don't have to buy them, just buy everything from store

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

I don't even do SSS aside from first clear and I have enough

When are they adding mod blocks to it

[orchid bane]

Have you cleared every events which has module block ? RA , IS ?
Do you buy module blocks in voucher shop monthly ?

[uncut dome]

I still have the ones from RA and IS4 to get

And ofc I buy from red cert shop

[round dock]

Mon3tr gaining smiley after we kick Kal out of CC

[spring nacelle]

Mon3ter should have been an alter ( she even look like blaze alter) so can give alter team better stuff

[round lichen]

Old mats being in store isn’t even helpful because half of them aren’t even used lol, basically the only OG T3 mats that see any usage nowadays are rocks, keton, and RMA

Polyester and sugar haven’t been used for like 3 years aside from a handful of modules

[inner ocean]

Oriron is still a high demand one

if you raise a lot of ops

and Device

If anything, the only mats that really don't see much use are the newer mats

So far, it's kinda nice knowing that after Thornstar, I don't need to pull for other base ops based on what I know in CN.

[summer kernel]

Does Caper skill work until the timer ends or when you check the base to collect? Trying to figure out what to do before update

[orchid bane]

I asked once, someone answered when timer end

but I don't buy it

how about you test it yourself today

[inner ocean]

you don't buy it but you chicken out of doing it yourself

[uncut dome]

[wind otter]

After months with none in sight, I finally found an operator that required Sugar Lump and that was because I went lower in rarity for a 4 or 5 star promotion, I can't remember what op now. So yeah, getting Lumps for either Sugar or Poly as rewards at this stage feels like trolling, when we could receive other mats in higher demand instead.

I have pulled for and promoted all operators since Zwillingsturme and I have started feeling the pressure for some of the newer mats, those being Solvent and Fluid. But the problem with the never-ending introduction of new mats is not necessarily countered by how few you need of them, but how they crowd the schedule for event mats, making you wait longer for a specific mat or being forced to farm less of a specific mat during an event because you are running low on multiple mats at the same time. All of this while mat stages still cost 21 sanity, the drop rate is not guaranteed, and we have three tier 3 mat stages per event.

Even if someone doesn't think that this is much of an issue yet, it begs the question, when will it be? When we have more tier 3 mats than all the events of a year can rotate? Because so far there seems to be no end to the introduction of new mats.

Anyways, Sugar and Poly Lumps are kernel mats at this point.

[wind otter]

I time clue search and exchanges and I think I've noticed Caper not meeting deadlines she was supposed to when I set her timing with a clue exchange, but I wasn't trying to test this seriously so I'm not a 100% sure. Maybe I picked the clue exchange but forgot to take Caper out, etc. I don't trust my memory so I will try to verify this properly when I have the chance.

[summer kernel]

My hunch is that she only works up until the timer but my usage with Caper is fairly limited. Thanks for the analysis that you already have

I was doing my own testing today on E0 Kestrel and it seems like her smiley bug only affects the Mlynar morale interactions and not any of the CC operators, which means that it's best to use a normal smiley over Kestrel E0

Not sure if you want to add that info to your note for the Mlynar Team on the base spreadsheet, Gato.
Seems fairly niche but I thought I could get some free AoE dorm buff in case I missed a rotation

[jaunty notch]

I’d just remove the bug note

[jaunty notch]

Btw every time you wonder if an op does something

Remember whether hg loves you or not

[jaunty notch]

@valid storm you happen to have cost breakdown for the banner specific x10?

[valid storm]

wdym?

Exclusive Headhunting Bundle
• Cost :- $8.99

Contents
✦︎ [Never Gilded] Ten-roll Headhunting Permit x1

Cost Benefit Analysis
→ A [Never Gilded] Ten-roll Headhunting perm is equal to 33.33 (Which is worth 4500 )
→ In total, 4500 or 33.33 worth of value

Which means, this pack provides 3.71 Originite worth of sanity per dollar spent
Actual value might be lower since the [Never Gilded] Ten-roll Headhunting permit can only be used on the [Never Gilded] banner
The [Never Gilded] Ten-roll Headhunting Permit will expire on <t:1745319599:f>

this?

It has the same sanity value as a normal 10 pull during calcs

[jaunty notch]

yeah thanks i forgot where this is usually put

[valid storm]

usually this appears in #event-info

[jaunty notch]

this is so weird lol, i don't mute the channel or anything but it disappears as soon as i leave it, can't find it in channel list either

[stuck crow]

yeah the server has too many channels, and the event faq one is hidden

[jaunty notch]

that explains it

[stuck crow]

unless you click "show all channels", but then you have so much other crap ones

[jaunty notch]

i can fav it i g

[stuck crow]

meanwhile waaaay worse channels are still visible without needing to click "show all channels"

[wind otter]

gato about to open wallet

[valid storm]

that's because discord is dumb and instead of permanently showing the information channels, it hides them

[jaunty notch]

smh i thought discord is protecting me from wrys's propagandas

[stuck crow]

both could be true

[valid storm]

I'm speaking the truth, not spreading propaganda

also, there's 30 minutes left until a 6 hours long maintenance

[stoic spoke]

6hours

wtfart

[valid storm]

also make sure that your account is linked to a Yostar account

[stoic spoke]

It is

[wind otter]

did you check here to verify all is good:

https://account.yo-star.com/login

[stoic spoke]

Yes

[wind otter]

then you won't be among the fatalities in the next hours

[jaunty notch]

can't wait for the inevitable "hey where's my acc"

[stoic spoke]

It'll be lost permanently or it'll still be available in their device until they clear game data?

[wind otter]

yes, like the facebook and twitter login

[jaunty notch]

yeah when they removed twitter login it still had my data

[elder surge]

i have a dozen+ alts that i cba to link new account system

we'll see if they survive the update

[valid storm]

someone didn't read the game ToS

[tender hornet]

so how useful is the new base update

as an r6 cc user

do I just create presets to swap out gnosis with kal or sth

[valid storm]

not at all

it doesn't support proper rotations

[wind otter]

damn, I was locked out at record speed. I could only pick reward of the day and get base resources, RIP personal records

no discord waiting room this time around, interesting

update immediately ready available, I like it

[jaunty notch]

i forgot how much sanity i had lol

[pale yoke]

oh god im fuq

freaking timezone change

dammit

https://tenor.com/view/gigi-murin-hololive-gif-16437123348530524695

[wind otter]

RIP

[fluid pollen]

Ye I’m fuq’d too.

[wind otter]

New login shortcuts for customer support, notices and Yostar account hyperlink.

No visible email address now, so streamers can stop doxxing people that give them their account to pull for, etc.

[round dock]

Started AO farming, hope this goes well...

[elder surge]

Welcome to the dark side

[next vigil]

guys can Aroma resist for 36 hours if she has Mlynar active (with Viviana and Flametail so 2 smiley) and if WaaiFu get's paired with her after the first 12h?

[leaden grove]

If waaifu is not with her the entire time, it will be close

[next vigil]

This should be good right?

[leaden grove]

Oh if she is with her for all 3 shifts then you should be fine

Do we know if EN is implementing the patches for 5.5 updates straight away?

[whole tapir]

Oh nice
this is for detailing which operators you switch in after the previous right?

[next vigil]

It's with 12h rotations, and in all facilities i used max 3 different setups so It works with the new updates

I don't have dusk so i can't do sui team

I think this Is the best i can do without them

[whole tapir]

Ah I see

[wind otter]

we were given extra sanity from the get-go, wtf, a bug or intended?

[next vigil]

Intended

[wind otter]

the extra sanity or the sanity cap?

[next vigil]

180 sanity cap Is intended, idk if you're talking about that

[pale yoke]

i hate the new base so much

[wind otter]

I know about the sanity cap, I saw the livestream 6 months ago, I had 60 something sanity before the update, after login in I have 173, I should have 120 something

[vagrant blaze]

...i should not have pushed that Rest Ops button

[next vigil]

Oh idk about that

[next vigil]

Why?

[jaunty notch]

welcome to no not assigned

absolute ass

[pale yoke]

no filter

ABSOLUTE GARBAGE BASE

[valid storm]

This is the most useful feature in the update

[pale yoke]

i hate it so much

the rest ops button is a literal trap

click it and your production drop to dirt

[winged hollow]

so you need 3 sets if you want to rotate right?

[valid storm]

No idea

[winged hollow]

I want to rotate one out each of time

[upbeat fossil]

can i make a preset more important than the other one? i want penance in office whenever she's available and then switch her out when she isn't. can this system do that? or have the mlynar team in HQ whenever it's available and then switch it out with alter team. but alter team doesn't lose stamina, so will it switch out when mlynar team is rested?

[wide pike]

alr i got a bit confused with new base UI

[upbeat fossil]

with stuff like power plants, factories, tps, do i need an additional team preset or can i still just switch one operator out at a time

[pale yoke]

bro they reset annihilation

lmao

free orundumb

[upbeat fossil]

reset?

[winged hollow]

misinfo

[eternal plover]

with presets here I don't have any excuses left for not switching to 252 ughh

[valid storm]

whut

no, they did not

You just forgot to clear it yesterday

[spring quartz]

this is new?

@valid stormoh hi new mod

[valid storm]

yes, this is the new UI

[valid storm]

I'm not a new mod, I've been one for more than 2 years

[spring quartz]

yeah yeah

I just never been in this chat

almost the same thing

[valid storm]

I've been in other chats as well, in #arknights, a few clubs

[spring quartz]

[winged hollow]

this update doesn't have dorm position?

[leaden grove]

Rest all button removed my durins 🥹 this shit is so ass

[winged hollow]

iirc there is lock dorm featurrrrrre

[valid storm]

Rest all didn't work, it left Enforcer in RR for me

[valid storm]

I can't find it

[winged hollow]

I think it come with yu or something

[wide pike]

okay im liking this button now

[valid storm]

So, this will stay this horrible

[pale yoke]

this update will make me spend more time in dorm than usual 💀 💀 💀 💀

[leaden grove]

Dorm locking was added later

[stoic spoke]

Where to see worker time left?

[leaden grove]

So I guess we have to wait too

[winged hollow]

litlle inconvenience I do dead lancet strat this gonna suck

[valid storm]

then you'll be able to make something like this one?

YOOOOO

[pale yoke]

that look horrible why would i

[stoic spoke]

Was it moved? Or removed

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

Because

[leaden grove]

It’s right there dog

[winged hollow]

click to the fac panel

[stoic spoke]

Tnx

[winged hollow]

I like this update so far

except the limit of 3 preset

[wide pike]

HG please, let me downgrade

[urban orchid]

Noooo they don't have preset on Workshop! I still need to add Shu for my Sui combination manually!

[pale yoke]

It's a trap

[upbeat fossil]

i don't understant this update so far. and i hate that taking out all my rest ops also takes out ops i have in there with stamina healing base skills

[winged hollow]

you can add shu in fac

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

i dread the new button

[solid crater]

In any of the future CN base updates will the filter return?

[jaunty notch]

Few months later

[valid storm]

[wind otter]

having to click dorms to know the time remaining for ops to be fully rested is indeed annoying

[leaden grove]

Yeah that’s one issue they didn’t address for a little while. Dorm slot locking came afterwards

[arctic prism]

I need 4 presets per facility

[jaunty notch]

OH MY GOD

IMMA WAKE UP

[winged hollow]

wtf

[leaden grove]

[winged hollow]

too many people got confused

[leaden grove]

They introduced presets early but not slot locking or extra UI

[winged hollow]

come on HG I need vina for my base skill

[leaden grove]

So we get gardener shu patched pre-release but have to wait for QOL fixes🥹

[stoic spoke]

The new "rest ops" is butchering my resting durins

[pale yoke]

how many people in there to crash it?

[stoic spoke]

Need to change the muscle memory now

[winged hollow]

why do you use pozy combo it is restricted

[stoic spoke]

What restricted

[winged hollow]

4 durin in the dorm

[leaden grove]

It doesn’t matter

Just rotate better zzz

16 slots is enough

[pale yoke]

skill issue

[stoic spoke]

Wdym restricted? I don't understand

[jaunty notch]

IT'S TOO POWERFUL

[stoic spoke]

You mean like not enough slots for others?

To rest

[leaden grove]

Yes

He does

[stoic spoke]

I balanced the resters coming out and going in

[pale yoke]

im doing 160% pozy while dorm looking like this rn, heard of workshop?

[stoic spoke]

Basically stragger better

[pale yoke]

[stoic spoke]

Lvl1 dorms with AoE MR is good enough

[leaden grove]

Shit lvl 1 dorms is already enough

[dense narwhal]

wait

they have to be in dorm?

ive had minimalist in workshop for the past year++

[stoic spoke]

Dorm, TR, workshop anything works

[dense narwhal]

oh okok

scared me

[pale yoke]

no

[winged hollow]

minimalist in workshop???

come on

his base skill is good

[stoic spoke]

3pp setup

[urban orchid]

How to hammer down morale booster ops to never move from that dorm in auto click rest zones?

[leaden grove]

Wait for them to patch it in

[winged hollow]

or 3 months to get that shit

[stoic spoke]

Is there a setting for tuning off that notification?

I don't want to auto remove from dorm

[torpid sluice]

so there's no real point of using 5 alter when R6S exist? on CC i meant

[jaunty notch]

also next patch

[stoic spoke]

Check pins 4th link, neither of those are good

[jaunty notch]

check their future articles

[urban orchid]

damn it, Lancet-2 should've been forbidden from any dorm

[winged hollow]

all you have to do is switch him before he take any more morale

[vital oriole]

lmao, they finally fixed factory listing order

[urban orchid]

Sorting by 'Morale' without 'Not in any Building' filter seems pointless

[stoic spoke]

No use if I have already trained my finger to not tap it everyday for a month when it arrives

[leaden grove]

Yes but you can sort by class now which helps ngl

[pale yoke]

The remove button

[jaunty notch]

this is what happens when HG didn't hire me or peter to work on base

[stoic spoke]

This notification

[pale yoke]

Yea

That removes it

[leaden grove]

[stoic spoke]

[torpid sluice]

well that aint matter much when i dont have time to check every 10 hours exact or so

[stoic spoke]

Sad

[urban orchid]

I need to double take which one is not 'on shift' when trying to rest them manually with the filter gone.
Though I guess I need to adapt this if they just keep removing morale booster ops when clicking auto rest zones

[pale yoke]

for all my riic friends

[stoic spoke]

Presets is good. No longer do I need to scroll searching for durins

[pallid isle]

yes very nice actually

sorting options on the other hand are ........

well i don't have to worry about those anymore anyway

[summer kernel]

How does one use presets if I don't do a 3 step rotation?

[urban orchid]

Isn't there are no preset on resting zone?

[solid crater]

So I can't permanently assign certain ops to specific dorm slots?

[stoic spoke]

When you have scroll searched durins for so long that it feels visibly incorrect if fast scrolled past the durin you are looking for

[leaden grove]

Step 1) develop a rotation schedule
Step 2)

[stoic spoke]

The sheets

[leaden grove]

Nope they will patch that later though

[stoic spoke]

Use em and make a schedule

[solid crater]

I don't suppose they'll re-introduce the filter as well?

[leaden grove]

Idr check base combo guide

[twilit wharf]

btw is vina is must pull for glassglow tp team? or siege already solve the problem?

[pallid isle]

wait how many rotation presets am i allowed to have max

[jaunty notch]

3

[pallid isle]

[fluid pollen]

Imagine having 4 sets of CC ops amirite.

[wraith tinsel]

I have about 18 dead ops for Stainless/Arene workshop stuff but the rest button takes everyone, there's no way around this besides manual intervention, is there

[pallid isle]

was just wondering that with dead lancet

preset also takes everyone out and puts everyone back in correct?

so i have to manually do ramp teams like shamare

have to watch for that as well

[stoic spoke]

Please help my OCD

[covert isle]

does the upcoming QOL update add more presets

[pallid isle]

i mean i would hope

but probably not

because

[pale wind]

do you guys know if presetting can reset shamare?

[covert isle]

guide says that will not reset shamare because she keeps the same position

[pale wind]

ok

[vagrant blaze]

seems a little far to the left

[spark turtle]

so with sanity cap increased, how much better is orundum farming?

[jaunty notch]

Ramp stays

[jaunty notch]

No

[jaunty notch]

Same, still 240 san a day. You can just hold more

[valid storm]

Let it go

[valid storm]

no, this is where it should be

[copper prairie]

I don't see the count down in TIME for moral anymore

[jaunty notch]

Overview

[covert isle]

yea that's prolly fine, it only affects CC anyway

[jaunty notch]

Some don’t have them

[copper prairie]

Yeah thanks

[jaunty notch]

Use teams that have ops further away

So when u manual it’s easy

[copper prairie]

I so used to manual the now setting up auto feel weird

I don't think this will work when I have to Fia someone

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

just need to get used to the new system

[stone roost]

Can you 1 to 1 copy Gatos sample rotations with the new QoL systems and have enough preset room to just rotate the entire sample rotation with a few clicks? Also .. the self1 rotation seems a bit too much work. What's the best 12H rotation in there that u guys would suggest to copy?

[spark turtle]

does originium give 180san?
i should have checked myself
it is still 135

[junior lotus]

do you have to arrange the presets in a fixed order to rotate all of them at once, like shift 1 all in preset 1 and shift 2 in preset 2?

[stone roost]

Also wondering about that

[leaden grove]

I don’t think you have to, but it might matter if you need to preserve ramp.

For example, if you have shift 1A, 1B, and 2, and there is a ramp-up op in 1A and 1B, then switching from a>b wouldn’t disrupt the ramp.

But if you had them entered such that you went 1A>2>2B then that might disrupt the ramp

[inner ocean]

so the new global base update, the only usable ones for guys like us are presets, right?

[stoic spoke]

get used to the (2) notification all the time you mean

[pale yoke]

i try to put on the preset

god

another constant reminder stick up on the bottom

removed it immediately

[pale yoke]

im just gona do it manually

[stoic spoke]

bru problem isn't doing it manual, it's that some operators need to stay in dorm at full morale but the game thinks they're waiting to be removed, so the notification won't go away

it's like constantly getting pinged on discord and opening chat

nobody likes it

[sudden token]

I knew I would hate this update when I heard that the Filter buttons had been removed. Turns out I was wrong!

I fucking loathe this. Oh my god.

[wraith tinsel]

🍷

[vague finch]

any guide on how to use the base present thing, honestly i'm just confused

as fuk

[pale yoke]

Waiting for the next "ultimate base guide" and people make fun of it

[stoic spoke]

you get slots to save operator teams for each facility, so the next time to rotate exhausted operators, just pick the next team from saved teams.

and staggering still works

[vague finch]

can we use same op for 2 slots? like if i want to only change half the team

[vague finch]

oh thx

[stoic spoke]

yes, change the required operator and keep rest the same, while saving the team

[uncut dome]

We're quite alive today

[arctic prism]

base update day

[vague finch]

guys this is correct rght?