help

[obtuse obsidian]

so i have to use any advantage vs feng shui

[limpid yarrow]

and general cc

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[inland osprey]

i have tried it on is6, its either to stall hit rate stages or shenanigans to push mobs to the holes

[rapid mason]

You wouldn't understand. More dp = more better

[obtuse obsidian]

maybe i need to stop drafting CS and start using phantom again

[inland osprey]

cant deploy anything when they are all dead isnt it ?

[sleek finch]

to get more dp, you have to run more vanguard
more vanguard = more slot used = less slots for broken units

more broken units = more better
more vanguard = less broken units

[wind blade]

but what if the vg was the broken unit

[nimble kite]

99 DP

[rapid mason]

nicheknights where you play only vanguard units that shield your board from strong operators

[turbid ocean]

don't spam

[rapid mason]

At least it is useful in IS

[limpid yarrow]

it was a visual representation of phantom s3 use case :(
mb

[sleek finch]

broken vanguard = generate dp for the entire team alone = run less vanguard
so the less vanguard is still the end result

say if instead of 3 flagbearers, they can be replaced with 1 vanguard, then sound that like vanguard is pretty good

[limpid yarrow]

(sa2)

[proven kelp]

Who

[pale tapir]

silence altwoer

[proven kelp]

[ivory rampart]

Who should i lvl up among click,ceobe and amiya?
Currently using steward and lava

[pale tapir]

between just those three?

[ivory rampart]

Yeah that's all i have other than 3 stars

Or should i wait for more operators?

[sleek finch]

ceobe deal far more dmg than the other 2 so sure
click is mainly used for IS where rarity matter; and amiya is for nothing

[pale tapir]

> 🐭📹 >

[proven kelp]

How about Pram2

[opaque remnant]

that's >>>

[pale tapir]

banished to the mountains

[ivory rampart]

One more thing
I'm using kroos and rangers rn
Should i replace with kroos alter?

[opaque remnant]

kroosalt will probably fulfill your AA needs

[past charm]

Should I build ascalion? This is my current comp; no specific gamemode in mind just looking to build up units so I can have quality choices for whatever later on

[opaque remnant]

siege and schwarz are fradulent

[ivory rampart]

Okay

[pale tapir]

yea could easily kick siege for ascalon
poor girl was cooked on day 1

[past charm]

Fossil account 🥀 working with what I’ve got leveled

Speaking of, I picked up both cantabile and Vulpisfoglia, are those just direct upgrades to my vanguards?

[pale tapir]

canta will be more useful
vulpipi is only useful at e2 and even then she's just a whatever laneholder (still the best pioneer)
canta will find use in IS and is more flexible as well

[opaque remnant]

can replace myrtle with canta

[ancient lintel]

They're both better than siege ye, vulpis is a direct pwc cause they're from the same archetype

[past charm]

So canta and ascalion are gonna be the prios

[pale tapir]

canta can honestly just be e1 for now
then e2 when u get around to doing mastery and module or whatever

[past charm]

I could remove higiruma for Vulp and leave that open slot for whatever comes along

[rapid mason]

They are different class. Probably too many vanguards

[pale tapir]

I wouldn't slot in suzumama if she's not e2
she's straight ass pre-e2, would rather use your e2 siege over e1 vulpi
you can forget about her if you don't actually need the roles she fulfills

[opaque remnant]

I don't even remember what her S2 did

[past charm]

My bad I jumped thoughts, I’d remove both current vanguards for canta and vulp and higi since vulp could be a supplemental wall(?)

[pale tapir]

the suzuran synergy skill with lord guard range
slows enemies or stuns them if already slowed
does basically no damage and gains some dp
stores charges

also without talent 2 vulpipi can't even lanehold

[paper gyro]

Should I buy hoederer and chen

[shadow bay]

nop

hoe can be a consideration if will hardcore is5... but thats that

[past charm]

Oh damn, that’s brutal

I can’t talent 2 for a sec bc LMD bottlenecking

[bright lake]

what is the 5* rate up for Nasti banner?

[rapid mason]

Im gonna be honest. I once saw suggestion to use Cantabile and not Myrtle in such scenarios and i geniunelly dont understand it. Cantabile is not fast redeploy or something to get the effect from her deployment more often than Myrtle skill. I used Myrtle fine untill i got SilverAhh2 not so long ago.
Idk, maybe im wrong

[pale tapir]

yea like I said vulpi pre-e2 is piss useless
her skill 1 is straight up pathetic too
5 sp to gain 1 dp (stores 3 charges)
4 sp at m3

[hoary ruin]

#game-news message

[grim forum]

silver ash mod 2 worth unlocking or no?

[rapid mason]

Damn max pot Leizi. Respect. Didn't even notice

[hoary ruin]

Just throw Canta down in the path of an enemy and her S1 will generate as much DP as you need for someone stronger.

[pale tapir]

canta is more useful than myrtle by virtue of being a pseudo FRD that can do damage hit air and doesn't lose all combat power when printing dp

[opaque remnant]

i'd like if you could make a krooster account

[bright lake]

general consensus on Cairn?

[opaque remnant]

not bad for a 5 star, shileds probably is better at this

[rapid mason]

Well maybe you have a point because after 1st Myrtle skill activation she usually becomes redundant on most stages

[bright lake]

@abstract mauve

[past charm]

I was on a roll so I kept going ngl

[hoary ruin]

Unless you're playing 5* knights, probably not worth. Defenders don't see a lot of use these days besides Hoshi2 and she's an outlier. Why block if you can just nuke everything?

[pale tapir]

yeah plus myrtle just sits there for 22s while she recharges her skill, taking up a deployment slot and doing nothing for you except be a 1 block bait ig
I love myrtle but the advantages of a good agent are undeniable

[past charm]

Myrtle’s definitely putting in work for me, I don’t think I’ll be swapping her first, but ty for the heads up about that 🗣️🗣️ I definitely do like being able to use her to patch holes temporarily

[opaque remnant]

you can also use canta to snipe certain trash mobs

[rapid mason]

How much pulls it took if not a secret?

[past charm]

Krooster account?

[past charm]

280, not a single hoe till 300

[opaque remnant]

in pins, we use it to see what ops you have and what you have raised, it's easier for us to give advice that way

[past charm]

Ohhh bet, ty

[opaque remnant]

do you have any pulls left for wang....

[rapid mason]

That's actually pretty lucky ngl. Happy for you!

[rapid mason]

Maybe the pulls for Wang were Leizies we grabbed along the way

[junior radish]

new weedy, p3 kal, or p3 ifrit?

[coarse notch]

new weedy

[junior radish]

thought so, thankss

[past charm]

I made one 🗣️🗣️ how do I link it here?

[hidden wolf]

Weedy

[rapid mason]

using ctrl + c and ctrl + v

[pale tapir]

profile -> view profile -> share button -> copy link
or just https://www.krooster.com/u/YOURKROOSTERUSERNAMEHERE

[past charm]

no

I could probably whale a lil but I’m thinking about just saving and going crazy on half anni banner

https://krooster.com/u/emptyadam

[pale tapir]

oh great heavens please raise your base workers
/base and /baseskill in #bot-spam
e2 proviso is easy and cheap profit gains

[past charm]

I remember starting to lock in on my base right before I quit LOL

[opaque remnant]

You should’ve just stopped at the first pot…

[past charm]

Lil voice in my wallets telling me monst3r is just ten more pulls /lh

I mainly came back seeing the 6.5 banner online but i won’t complain if im able to build up for wang too

[pale tapir]

wang/ch3n is the most stacked banner since wis/logos imo
worth saving for
exia/lemon was close

[hidden wolf]

Why is ascalon lvl 0 😭

[past charm]

Just got her yesterday

[hidden wolf]

Should i spark for shu

[jagged condor]

My gacha addiction is hitting again should I spin?

[pale tapir]

no you literally have nothing to roll with
and pulling on standard sucks 99% of the time anyway

[hidden wolf]

Hell nah

[vital kelp]

does rosmontis summon on is have less taunt, why do they target rosmontis herself

[hidden wolf]

He got 10 pulls

[pale tapir]

10 pulls might as well be zero

[jagged condor]

Aight imma spin ✌🏻😁😁

[hidden wolf]

Save for wang banner in 3 months

[pale tapir]

you can go burn pulls on bad banners when you're sitting on 150 pulls at least

[young path]

good luck

[obtuse obsidian]

this kind will roll regardless

[hidden wolf]

Report back brother. What u got

[obtuse obsidian]

dont report back here lol

[keen scarab]

who are "they" you mentioned here

[vital kelp]

any ranged attackers

[pale tapir]

shouldn't, they have 0 taunt
maybe rosmimi is the only target in their range
or they prioritize ranged ops

[opaque remnant]

Dawg you’re completely broke

[proven swan]

is nymph good?

[hidden wolf]

Shes ok

[obtuse obsidian]

ok staller

powercrept by tragedy

[hidden wolf]

Any gold

[jagged condor]

Regret... Back to grind

[hidden wolf]

Full purple 😁

[vital kelp]

we told u not to

[turbid ocean]

Avoid unnecessary media in this channel

[jagged condor]

Just started yesterday I'm still exploring the game 😛😛

[keen scarab]

asking for advice but deciding to not listen

[obtuse obsidian]

consider rerolling

[proven swan]

tragedy means tragodia?

[severe crypt]

Ok but when “exploring the game” is it imperative you also shoot yourself in the foot 🥹

[vital kelp]

see here, she is hit instead of device although both in range

[obtuse obsidian]

for whatever reason i feel like the summon get dropped first when i used rosmo

[slate ridge]

its 50 50 if you deploy

[vital kelp]

wym 50 50

[slate ridge]

@abstract mauve run your Raidian check

some summons inherently have 0 deploy invis frames compared to ops
so chance of summons being deployed first is there

[vital kelp]

so summon is deployed before rosmontis

[rain forge]

iirc there’s like a 3 frame margin of the summon spawning

[rapid mason]

less than 2 actually

[hidden wolf]

Wut

[shadow bay]

wut

[coarse notch]

you need to frame advance the deployment

[hidden wolf]

I thought it was August.

[coarse notch]

rosmontis pillar only takes aggro if its deployed on the 3rd frame of the cycle

[hidden wolf]

Anyway imma wait until the end of banner to roll

[hoary ruin]

Yes, but also no.

Wang's banner may not happen exactly 3 months after SA2's ended. Yostar may shuffle things around.

[shadow bay]

roll for what? nasti?

[vital kelp]

what does that even mean

[hidden wolf]

Wang

[wary laurel]

Guys what's the better chongyue module

[obtuse obsidian]

you can just get wang from first free pull

[rapid mason]

They pushed summer banner from the end of July to the middle for the last 3 years or so. I would assume it's around 16-19 th

[coarse notch]

the game runs on 10 sets of 3 frames for 30 fps, the game only calculates the deployment order of her equipment as coming after her own deployment when its deployed on the 3rd frame of the cycle

[vital kelp]

wtf

[urban sleet]

should be in roadless camelot in pins

[slate ridge]

thats the 50 50 part

[obtuse obsidian]

rosmo nerdy gimmicks

[coarse notch]

in instances where you absolutely need her pillar to take aggro like sufferings epoch + cadance or stuff like simulated skirmish, you need to wait until your dp bar just went up, so the loading indicator for the next dp is at 0 (frame 1), then frame advance twice so the bar ticks forward twice (frame 3), then pause deploy rosmontis on that frame

[obtuse obsidian]

6* temp squad is IS5 right?

maybe i should do temp only IS5 runs

[vital kelp]

man

[frail tree]

Do different annihilation maps has drastic stat jumps for enemies or just difficult by map layout?

[nimble kite]

May layout.

[glass nexus]

should i pull for irene

[coarse notch]

wait until you see the 3 frame window for mon3tr boat jump

[nimble kite]

Hell no, she's washed.

[glass nexus]

shes bad?

[urban sleet]

-# watch as someone glazes her for her training room skill

[proven kelp]

Irene > Logos

[magic lion]

Is cantabile first skill better than second skill?

[nimble kite]

She never been good to begin with.

Used in SSS because you could buff her SP regen and spam her S3 every time you can.

If you cannot do that, her power drastically goes down to the pit.

[urban sleet]

uh they actually ttook it seriously

[coarse notch]

usually tho what you can do is bait out the attack then use another sniper/caster to deploy another refrigerator after ros is deployed so you're guaranteed that ros was deployed first
the pause deploy/frame advance is only required when you must use ros first or have no way of generating more equipment immediately

[jagged condor]

What dis complete annihilation?

[cursive maple]

generally 2 is better
in IS 1 scales better

[magic lion]

Ok thanks!

[nimble kite]

Do the 400 kills in one Annihilation, I believe.

[pale tapir]

it's also dependent on how you're using her
if you need her to print dp immediately on deploy use s1 (and have her hit stuff ofc)

[shadow bay]

sir but i dont have irene

[jagged condor]

Where to navigate it 😓

[magic lion]

Yeah im wondering if its good for IS

[shadow bay]

on paper

s1 better if she can keep hitting
s2 better if u want constant dp

but nowadays her most usage mostly involve in s1 hovering her all over the map

[hoary karma]

is sankta miksaparato worth building

[vital kelp]

wait cantabile want s1m3 right

[nimble kite]

Sigh.

In Terminal, the red 0/400 (or whatever you have cap to) Orundum gauge for fast-travel to Annihilations.

[fierce needle]

Not really

[hoary ruin]

If I don't need Canta to stay on the field I use S1. If I do I use S2. The camo she gets from S2 is useful, like if you want to use her to snipe ranged units.

[shadow bay]

it prolong skill duration so would consider m3 if rly love using it

anyway why sneggy have cringe skill set

[hoary ruin]

Yeah...it would have been comfy to have a good 4* agent.

[coarse notch]

if both your surfer and your canta are the same pot, surfer is better for is5
surfer p5 > canta p6 > surfer > canta

[marble viper]

why cringe

[vital kelp]

i dont have surfer pot

[shadow bay]

she take ages for s1 to generate 3dp

and well her s2 quite alright... would see more action for it

and theres the feeling of she dont want to get hit for her aspd shenanigans

i do see that sneggy take the steppings from puzzle though

[young glacier]

She exists to make Puzzle not be worst agent

[marble viper]

[coarse notch]

at least shes 0 hope in IS smh

[hoary ruin]

ehhh, I dunno, 4* much cheaper to build than 5*

[vital kelp]

just use beanstalk or myrtle

[marble viper]

[hoary ruin]

Yeah pretty much. Myrtle works until you can get canta or surfer.

[shadow bay]

I actually wanna say it like that and hold the virtue of sneg being cheap to raise, but then again if u rly use canta and surfer, sneggy and puzzle just look rly sad 🥹

[coarse notch]

myrtle in is5 🗣️
but yea not much mileage from sneg outside of is5 unfortunately

[hoary ruin]

I more meant in the situation where I "had" to build Sneg or Puzzle, with no other options -.-

[polar pier]

Is Proviso the 5* in the shop?

[shadow bay]

i think people would just raise the flag at that point

[shadow bay]

grain

for standard banner, the middle in the 5 stars will be the shop op

[hoary ruin]

Yeah.....like surely you'd at least have Fang to use until you could pull a better VG.

[mortal tapir]

Are there any specific caster relics that don't work on rosmotis is module

[coarse notch]

if it specifies the archetype it doesnt work on her

she also doesnt count towards the number of casters for relics like undulation book

[jagged condor]

How am I supposed to Clear that underwater current map and complete the annihilation man ts is straight up bs 😭. I need some help 😓 if there's any clearable map in the mode

[nimble kite]

Yes. The subclass one.
Like that buffs Core Casters alone, this one does nothing for Rosm.

[coarse notch]

borrowing pramalter should make short work of that map

[jagged condor]

Thanks imma try it

[coarse notch]

theres a kyostinv video for low end pram2 borrow if you want a reference

[tidal vale]

search pramalter low rarity guide or something like that

[marble viper]

[nimble kite]

According to your cap, you have cleared Chernobog and Lungmen Outskirts, correct?

[coarse notch]

also yea you havent cleared the easier ones yet
id still do this anni to unlock the rotating anni cap limit since this is a pretty easy anni to do

[granite wharf]

wait im supposed to build sankta because i have lemuen and exusiai alter right

[pale glen]

so nymph in standard? Is she worth the 180? or just nah

[jagged condor]

Idk, I don't read the thingy here I just enjoy the strategy tbh

[hexed adder]

Its outskirts and downtown that add cap and rotation

[coarse notch]

also nymph isnt the shoperator, irene is
the non e2 art operator is the shoperator

[nimble kite]

You should do 400 on these map, so you get more pulls weekly.

[pale glen]

aww, that sucks even more

[left tulip]

I may or may not know the answer cuz wang is on the way but I gotta ask, is it worth pulling on nymph Irene to get proviso

[jagged condor]

So this is where y'all get these crazy ass gems now ik, thanks man

[vital kelp]

no

[coarse notch]

anni accounts for 1800 of your 3000 weekly orundum

[pale tapir]

annihilation is 60% of your weekly income

[nimble kite]

High chance to fuck up.

[vital kelp]

bengal i killed ending1 alt

bruh lamp makes game so easy

[nimble kite]

Told ya.

[wispy peak]

who will be discounted next on the celebration banner?

[fringe kraken]

Where's the other 40% from?

[left tulip]

Missions prob

[nimble kite]

SpecterAlter, if you asking about Closure/Kalter one.

[wispy peak]

who would be after that?

[marble viper]

texas alt being left behind

[pale tapir]

you get 1200 from daily missions + weekly mission
(500/week * 1 week) + (100/day * 7 days)

[nimble kite]

TexasAlter.

[rocky pilot]

Wouldn’t need to ask if you know what year they’re released

[vital kelp]

does rolling ancestor give alternative ending cutscene as well

[nimble kite]

Unfortunately no. Just extra pain on Final Boss map.

[coarse notch]

no, its just a harder ending for fun

[vital kelp]

dang, would be fun if they did

[fallen depot]

Sakiko mastery please

[nimble kite]

Amiya's Ending 3rd Lore condition is to win her with Tier 3 egg tho. Here's your alternative ending.

[vital kelp]

m9

[tidal vale]

what is this

[nimble kite]

Combined Blue and Yellow Tickets. Do not pull.

[marble viper]

[obtuse obsidian]

s3 for everything
s2 for button allergy
s1 for archetto weird shit

[tidal vale]

oh

[waxen creek]

Ik this fight is like 5 years old

[safe tundra]

standard HH being usable in k*rnel banner is a federal crime

other games literally separate them

[waxen creek]

but how tf is Frostnova's tiles even placed? They just seem to be random tiles at set intervals and sometimes my units get damaged while sometimes they get one shot.

[young glacier]

Because it is random, have fun

[coarse notch]

its random, if the tiles are placed on the unit, they're force retreated

[nimble kite]

Randomly picks 3 tiles around her indeed. If the chosen tile has your unit, he gets instakilled in no matter what.

[safe tundra]

the strat against frostnova had always been outrange her

[marble viper]

[safe tundra]

exu1 is currently the weakest possible operator but she can one cycle frostnova safely

[waxen creek]

I'm getting frustrated trying to not be carried to a win so im using 4/5*s

[coarse notch]

krooster should do the same

[nimble kite]

And why not 6☆s?

[waxen creek]

Kroos alter has been my go to

[waxen creek]

I wanna improve at the game I'm rly bad at fundamentally playing this game

[nimble kite]

[safe tundra]

some if not most 6* are straightforward tho

[vital kelp]

should i use m3 ticket on cantabile or should i wait and do it in training room

[coarse notch]

just do it in TR

[fringe kraken]

Always save it for more tedious materials to farm for or ones locked behind story progression

[vital kelp]

but im doing greyy there rn

[coarse notch]

then again i save my m3 and e2 vouchers until the end of time

[vital kelp]

i have too much material sooo

[safe tundra]

this guy is already on ch16

[hoary ruin]

There really aren't many 5*s most accounts would want mastery on besides Surfer or Canta.

[coarse notch]

this guy is gonna reach ch17 before the rest of us tbh

[safe tundra]

🥹

[tidal vale]

can i not borrow ops in ra

[fringe kraken]

I typically use it for the characters I know I'm going to use immediately tbh, I just M3'd Lappy Alter and WisaWIN 😭

[marble viper]

[safe tundra]

its morally correct to burn yostar

[nimble kite]

Unfortunately only your own. SupportUnit is nonexistent thing in this mode.

[tidal vale]

fuuck

[vital kelp]

its not related to yostar its hg's fault

[coarse notch]

yostar should just cancel the next 6 months and warp us to after kalter real

[vital kelp]

anything use here

these are my only e2 4 stars

[nimble kite]

Not really

[safe tundra]

e2 m*rtle

brick

[vital kelp]

i e2'ed myrtle before agents became a thing

[coarse notch]

may is m6 worthy candidate for is5
not really otherwise

[vital kelp]

wb here

[nimble kite]

Meme pick, Jaye S2

[hexed adder]

I heard tw new publisher became slower so

[vital kelp]

other than canta s1 ig

[safe tundra]

wtf kazemaru s1

[coarse notch]

krooster s1 for one specific map

[turbid ocean]

if gummy not done
technically gummy m6 for is5 but too niche

[vital kelp]

i used to use her for IS2

[coarse notch]

id just hold onto those, not much

[safe tundra]

so did i but it was s2

[vital kelp]

worth e2?

[turbid ocean]

thats involves e2ing don't it?

[coarse notch]

gummy 100% needs to be e2ed for snp yes

[vital kelp]

alr will do it when i have enough patience to farm chips again

[turbid ocean]

helps you live emergency skirmish and chaos

[vital kelp]

wb my 6 stars, i still have a 6 star m3 ticket

[coarse notch]

ngl i have no idea what her s2 is used for

[nimble kite]

Gummy one?

[fallen depot]

Should i mod sakiko

[vital kelp]

thoughts?

[coarse notch]

skirmish countered by pillars + guardmiya and chaos is dodged if i dont have kal or mon3tr

[turbid ocean]

blud just link ur krooster at this point

[nimble kite]

It's basically just Spot burst reskin.

[vital kelp]

manual import

[turbid ocean]

yes

get to it

or use imgur atleast

[coarse notch]

well yes i know what the skill does but idk where to take it over s1

[safe tundra]

i manual imported. you should be able to

[turbid ocean]

i don't remember where its used specifically
kind of just situational based on how cooked your draft is

[nimble kite]

Where you need to control the heal and not waste all meat charges.

[silver smelt]

yato s1 or shu s2 maybe

[turbid ocean]

hes asking for specific stages and comps

you're describing the skill

[vital kelp]

what the flip why

[nimble kite]

Like in stages with consistent damage.

I remember Kyo prioritized Spot over Gummy once. Don't remember where tho...

[safe tundra]

i remember someone long ago justifying gummy e2 for her nonexistent crit damage

[coarse notch]

bro i know what the skill does and how its used, im asking for the scenarios in is5 where its used

[nimble kite]

Supah. It's obvious. 🥀

[turbid ocean]

if yato not p6 dont even think about playing sescort

[safe tundra]

nah it wasnt him

[turbid ocean]

if its consistent damage you just want gummy s1

you use s2 for concentrated damage

[waxen creek]

Yea i mean if I did this with 6*s I can brain off clear. I wanna use my brain for once lol

[pale tapir]

sakichan should be at mod2 minimum and ideally mod3
huge damage boost

[vital kelp]

good luck

[arctic hawk]

we just larping ig

[coarse notch]

id just hold onto it as well
theres some really niche tech with ela s1, degen s2, and sash s1 but not really anything worth considering now

[smoky urchin]

So are these good pulls for day 5 player?

[coarse notch]

i hope that was with the free kernel 10 pull
if so, yes good pulls, dont pull on that banner again

[vital kelp]

what will i have in 500 years?

I will have a depot full of e2 voucher and m3 voucher left unused

[coarse notch]

i havent used a single voucher, skin, e2, max level, material, mastery, tell me about it

[smoky urchin]

The ones where 3800 cost 10 pulls and id only twice in lifetime available

[vital kelp]

@turbid ocean does gummy want mod and is s2m3 realistically needed

[smoky urchin]

And I'm more surprised you're still here after 8-9 hours I slept

[nimble kite]

Wait, where's SixStar then? It should be guaranteed on first x10.

[coarse notch]

mod1 for her, the mod upgrades brick her really badly
i dont think s2 masteries are super necessary imo

[smoky urchin]

Exui is the one

[turbid ocean]

its not super necessary

just is5 schizos find a way

[nimble kite]

🥀

[coarse notch]

i trust light so im gonna assume s2m3 is nice to do at some point if you get the chance but its not urgent

[turbid ocean]

its not at all

[vital kelp]

i got a bunch of stuff lined up to do now that im really playing is5

[turbid ocean]

may s2 is also marginal by that standard too

[coarse notch]

it is

[turbid ocean]

i forgot what the math on it was but
for some god forsaken reason i needed to mod3 may for theresis

[vital kelp]

greyyalt finishes tonight, i got to cantabile s1m3, then gummy skills ig

[turbid ocean]

2 extra ASPD mattered

[coarse notch]

welcome to the club of spending a stupid amount of resources on one IS iteration

[vital kelp]

im overflowing in everything but exp

[coarse notch]

was it the atkspd breakpoint for permastalling with may + gravel in sescort

[turbid ocean]

well you don't need to be on sescort but yes its the may gravel stall

[coarse notch]

all the other cool kids use tragodia s3 for him 😔

[turbid ocean]

numbers somewhere in the 60s

all the cool kids don't handmix smh

[waxen creek]

ugh

finally beat this bitch oml

[vital kelp]

how is bro at level 81 and chapter 6 😭

[coarse notch]

for what its worth even at h6-4, krooster outdamages exu when both are modless

[nimble kite]

Yapping about your win in #salt-mines.
Congrats.

[waxen creek]

I have neglected story big time ☠️

[left tulip]

Is that frostnova you’re calling names

[pearl forge]

Cantabile mod worth it? What lvl?

[nimble kite]

Mod1 is fine.

[pearl forge]

I'm also lvl 90 and ch6, not through with y1 stuff. There farming events block sooo much time.

[vital kelp]

you all have dead weeks

[urban sleet]

looks at the gigsntic gap we had before sa2 event

[vital kelp]

any ways

should i raise tsunogi

and should i e2 silence for is

[coarse notch]

no and no

[vital kelp]

wb mod3 indogo? any worth?

[coarse notch]

mod3 s2m3 is required for snp

[vital kelp]

hm

may is s2 or m6

mod?

[coarse notch]

may isnt really used in snp but if you're using her elsewhere, s1m3 mod3, s2 is more optional

[vital kelp]

and does archetto use s3 still or other two preferred

[coarse notch]

s3 only yep

[vital kelp]

should i e2 hoe i have him e1 80

and should i e2 surfer? sometimes i tend to draft both canta and her

[coarse notch]

honestly, i get that hes good in is5 but he has not been drafted a single time since ive gotten him

[vital kelp]

oh right

cantabile module yes or no

[nimble kite]

Mod1 is enough

[coarse notch]

yes, agents are all mod3 for the hp

[nimble kite]

tf

[vital kelp]

e2 sufer yeah?

[coarse notch]

typically you wont have the vouchers or hope to draft two e2 agents but id still e2 surfer s1m3 mod3 yea

[vital kelp]

time for chip grind

[coarse notch]

pretty low prio tho if your canta has more pots

you'll probably end up using canta + sneg more

[vital kelp]

i dont have sneg

[abstract mauve]

it is but it might be very hard for H stages. some H stages have records of 9 ops and some no one has bothered to put a record on or seriously attempt. the vast majority of stages however are extremely easy for welfareknights

[obtuse obsidian]

i forgot do Is welfare count for welfare?

[nimble kite]

Shileds, shill Highmore for me outside IS3.

[abstract mauve]

pretty sure a decent 5*. outside my expertiese but i have read up a decent bit on her. i would ask one of the 5* players of their opinion on her once she releases on EN but im sure they'll really like her

[abstract mauve]

they do otherwise raidian wouldnt completely dominate the niche

[abstract mauve]

she's one of the operators of all time 🗣️

[obtuse obsidian]

guess miksa have to fear now because a better defender is coming

[abstract mauve]

no guarantee that mechanist is better as miksa is also getting a damn good mod to boost him. mechanist needs to be extra good

but actually tho if mechanist is a bit better than miksa that would be insane for a new player

[obtuse obsidian]

i trust mechanist as long as spalter module guy dont make him

[chrome epoch]

is surfer worth to raise even if i already have an s1m3 flagbearer and sash2

[coarse notch]

having an agent is pretty useful yes

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh even if he is slightly worse he will be insane for new player conisder the (resources) he eat

[coarse notch]

thats a good reason, just not a good one for this channel

[nimble kite]

Not here 100%.

[knotty prairie]

oh sorry

[abstract mauve]

if it makes you play the game more that's a meta enough reason

[obtuse obsidian]

many people pull for that reason
we just dont recommend it here cause this channel is focused on objecte tips

[knotty prairie]

alright

[abstract mauve]

they cooked with raidian. they just need that team to make mechanist as well

[left tulip]

Damn is spectalt IS mod that bad

[tepid barn]

why do ppl not value hand of mystery tragodia outside of is5

[obtuse obsidian]

it compete with her other modules which no IS module does

[abstract mauve]

summoner hand my beloved

i value it. not the tragodia part but the hand is cool

[obtuse obsidian]

every IS module dog walk the other non IS modules in IS

but spalter dont get the slow or sp from X and this feels so off for me imo

[tepid barn]

i mean like nasti s2 on trag s3

[left tulip]

Fair enough yea

[coarse notch]

i dont think the people utilizing nasti s2 on trag s3 are the same people asking for pull advice in help chat in ako

[left tulip]

I mean it’s still interesting tho

[abstract mauve]

helidropping tragodia s3 is very cool but i dont think most people have a need for trag s3 to start with

[marble viper]

[obtuse obsidian]

trag s3 is like broken and dog walk a lot of stallers

but lets be real s2....

[coarse notch]

go into #arknights and ask if anyone has heard of the 3 op reg army clear

[marble viper]

light is in there so

[coarse notch]

hes a mod he doesnt count as a person

[vital kelp]

why isnt this guy moving

[marble viper]

[coarse notch]

hes just a chill guy

[marble viper]

attack him

[left tulip]

I think he just takes his time

[nimble kite]

Just hit him and he will

[obtuse obsidian]

he just came back from work and tired

[vital kelp]

wtf dont ask me to attack a chill flower just sitting there, how rude

[marble viper]

[rain forge]

[left tulip]

Does he start moving as soon as you proc I thought he still stood still for some time

[rocky pilot]

Kill that mf with exu2 and trag and logos with mon3tr buff get his ass gone now

[vital kelp]

ok he moved when i hit him

[marble viper]

[coarse notch]

yea i bet you'd also move if someone hit you

[vital kelp]

does surfur have a skin

[coarse notch]

comes with wang

[obtuse obsidian]

wow i only needed CS to kill 3 of these in D18

clearly CS is broken

[left tulip]

Depends on who does

[rocky pilot]

Nah is just I hate these guys

Annoying ass scream I just want to torture them

[vital kelp]

whats hoederer skill for is5

[obtuse obsidian]

1

[coarse notch]

s1 > s2 >>> s3

[vital kelp]

mod and skill?

[coarse notch]

s1m3 s2m1 mod3 minimum

actually you could probably get away with mod1

full disclosure tho i think hes heavily overshilled, i was guilty of that too

[faint quarry]

guys who is xia

[marble viper]

[marble viper]

balls

[vital kelp]

i like what vgg advertises

i have everyone required so i think i might try vgg next

[coarse notch]

oh yea then m9 mod3

[nimble kite]

The Wang's "balls".

[vital kelp]

well except sashter, but u know that comes later for me

[coarse notch]

soon™

[marble viper]

vgg? an oldie who doesn't say gvg

[vital kelp]

i like vgg cuz it sounds like lgg

[coarse notch]

i like vgg because i can hit the g key twice faster

[vital kelp]

how old is this auto

[coarse notch]

2023 lookin auto

[vital kelp]

its crazy to see me actually using guardmiya

[marble viper]

that's amiya new skin

[coarse notch]

skins are automatically equipped for old autos iirc

[marble viper]

oh wait ig it replaces it

[vital kelp]

skin updates with time btw

[rocky pilot]

Can confirm

[coarse notch]

you can use guardmiya in is5! truely the operator that does everything

[undone portal]

hi helpers

[rocky pilot]

Bye

[vital kelp]

im running really bloody low on alloys

[coarse notch]

oh yea hoederer eats like 30 alloy

[marble viper]

so how long is the nasti waitin room

[undone portal]

just learned skybox e2 asks for 13 refractors. is this an angle to suggest newbies spend their e2 voucher on him

[vital kelp]

40 😭 wtf

[indigo spoke]

we cant play collab stages if it already end correct? and do the event have furniture and does it give blue cert when rerun?

[vital kelp]

im on 40 alloy 😭

[coarse notch]

collab stages (pretty much) never rerun
iirc the r6 rerun did give certs tho

[marble viper]

I mean, how good is he, if he warrants e2 does he need mod

[vital kelp]

alright guys i think its time to officially say im broke

[undone portal]

he warrants e2 because hes a certifiable tequila sidegrade
skybreakers dont have their mods yet. ..all one of them

[glass nexus]

Is nasti good

[vital kelp]

41 alloy 37 steel its jover

[undone portal]

i have 110pulls saved right now, but the plan is to spark for dusk in 2months so im afraid i might have to bail

[vital kelp]

wtf

[marble viper]

nooooo

[vital kelp]

as a fellow dusk sparker(i used 300) i approve

[undone portal]

i will pull to first 6star. if it isnt nasti i cut my losses and wait for rerun

[marble viper]

ok that's fine

[vital kelp]

should i e2 irene to train sniper faster

[marble viper]

yes

[coarse notch]

you have logos thats schizo as hell

[vital kelp]

is mod tho, any good?

[coarse notch]

its decent and fun but not really good

[left tulip]

If you do get nasti I’m sending you friend request frame 1

[median fable]

guys, does anyone remember how much dmg Skybox did?

[obtuse obsidian]

wait for the 6* to be released to get that

[undone portal]

or you could send me a frq right now

[vital kelp]

are these guys real fucking ra monsters in trial for navigators??

[rocky pilot]

Pre farming for nasti…
How much lmd do we get at event store again?

[obtuse obsidian]

500

[scenic wharf]

not much

[vital kelp]

CROC WAIFU TOO? how do i even beat this guy without ra permastall degen

[rocky pilot]

Just give me the full amount

[vital kelp]

like legit whats the counter to her

[coarse notch]

if its anything like the IS bosses, the RA bosses are heavily nerfed in TfN

[quick jolt]

yeah i watched gameplay of tfn6 they are very very nerfed

[vital kelp]

oh alright

time for revenge then

[coarse notch]

too bad they didnt unleash d18 izumik onto unsuspecting players

[undone portal]

she has significantly less stats here than she does in ra, just hit her with cc effects and block her with someone who deals good damage

[random kestrel]

oh sad
if just slightly nerf it, it would be cool

[left tulip]

When do we get tfn btw I know nothing abt it

[obtuse obsidian]

500k

[vital kelp]

later

[quick jolt]

we dont know, for some reason tw got it before us

[undone portal]

Soon ™

[coarse notch]

well we were supposed to get it before tw but hg is currently torturing their region for fun

[rocky pilot]

Okay it’s enough for me

[left tulip]

I see

[marble viper]

[rocky pilot]

I really need to get better gold workers

[abstract mauve]

you heavily overestimate this boss. lowkey fraud boss

[median fable]

anyone?

[obtuse obsidian]

dont vivi + medic beat the shit outta croc?

[abstract mauve]

24k

[vital kelp]

last time i beat her was 2 years ago when degen came out, and it haunts my dreams even now

[quick jolt]

i like tfn tho i hope we get it soon

[vital kelp]

oh yeah, tfn doesnt have a timer either right?

[obtuse obsidian]

if vivi medic beat the shit out of RA version why are we even scared of her lol

[lyric lagoon]

ra bosses really aren't allat without their wack ass ra stat scaling

[vital kelp]

i can take as long as i want AND i dont have to worry about flooding tiles

[median fable]

total?

[random kestrel]

want to try beat croc priestess but open and play RA already impossible for me :icant:

[abstract mauve]

ye on s2

[obtuse obsidian]

croc best weapon is actually the timer

[coarse notch]

2362 per bullet, 10 ammo on s2

[undone portal]

croc priestess is on major fraud watch anywhere outside of ra

[obtuse obsidian]

was not it like 2440?

[coarse notch]

idk tbh might have fucked the math

[vital kelp]

yeah u have to kill 2 wave and she comes out later and u got bad timer and bad tile arrangement and ur ranged operator are getting speared by other crocs

[lyric lagoon]

ra just likes pumping the enemies with tons of hp steroids

[abstract mauve]

i just remember 24k when he first came out. i didnt calculate it since. will add it to my welfare sheet when i do

[obtuse obsidian]

dont forget to account for pots since they are free

[coarse notch]

oh right the pots

[brazen gulch]

#game-news message this is not real shit

anyway is there no purchasable way of getting yellow certs other than through pulls?

[coarse notch]

2445.6 per bullet with atk pot

[abstract mauve]

welfare pots

[median fable]

I noticed the problem with my calcs
I was considering e0 lv1 skybox

[lyric lagoon]

recruits, welfare pots, red cert shop

[indigo spoke]

we cant play collab stages if it already end right? and do the event have furniture and does it give blue cert when rerun?

[abstract mauve]

bruh

[undone portal]

ive made up my mind. i have decided i will be very annoying about skybox e2 voucher for the next 2weeks

[abstract mauve]

hell yeah

[coarse notch]

hell no

[lyric lagoon]

the perm anni first clear rewards also have gold certs if you somehow haven't cleared them yet asw

[brazen gulch]

oh red cert hm

[glass mural]

Collab stages don't rerun unless HG goes out of their way to do another collab with the same franchise they did originally.

[obtuse obsidian]

as long as its not an account with pluma am with you :ya:

[undone portal]

quick cycle tequila, e2 voucher lets newbies avoid having to cough up 13 refractors

[abstract mauve]

also the early chapters where hitting drones is something you want

[left tulip]

I mean technically if you don’t built him you still have to cough up 0

[coarse notch]

cant wait for the 9th anniv when we can actually recommend vouchering skybox

[obtuse obsidian]

frost drone killer in chap 5 6

[random kestrel]

event shop doesnt provide that?
i mean lower tier mats for refractor?

[glass mural]

Think Rainbow Six Siege getting a part 1 and part 2 series of collab banners.

Or Monster Hunter having a reasonably existent possibility of the first Monster Hunter event getting a rerun since a second one is coming along.

[coarse notch]

rerun has been confirmed for monhun btw

[obtuse obsidian]

they already confirmed that bro

[abstract mauve]

oh it has?

[random kestrel]

nvm
its locked behind 15-9 anyway

[obtuse obsidian]

same announcment said both coming

[quick jolt]

yeah they confirmed that the new collab is next month and yato rerun is after that

[vital kelp]

so far 2/3 big collabs has gotten a rerun

Surely

SURELY BANDIRO SECOND RERUN

[glass mural]

Oh, it's actually confirmed? You get my point.

[brazen gulch]

the token exchange rules panel says 5*s give 5 gold certs on duplicate, does that mean i can buy out 55/5 = 11 5* duplicates from here and have 180?

[obtuse obsidian]

we had 4 big collab wdym 2/3

[vital kelp]

whats the 4th one

[indigo spoke]

MH collab confirmed in cn already

[undone portal]

yep. event story synopsis in the announcement basically confirms ||orchid/catapult alts||

[quick jolt]

they will do it when we get myGO collab

[obtuse obsidian]

r6 mh marchille music

[vital kelp]

right dungeon meshi

[quick jolt]

genuinely wouldnt surprise me if this happened

[obtuse obsidian]

double welfare surely

[undone portal]

mygo collab announcement for our notes release

[coarse notch]

if you desperately need gold certs sure but iirc its actually more sanity efficient to just straight up farm orundum

[undone portal]

if it actually turns out like the avemujica collab and the entire team gets alters i will be absolutely ecstatic

[bright lake]

bloody hell, Cairn actually looks VERY good for a 5*

[vital kelp]

i doubt its gonna be mygo if thats then the case

prob a new band like millage

isnt one of the older band having an anime soon?

[obtuse obsidian]

no no no durin come save those 2 dummies who end up welfares

[lyric lagoon]

wish xiaohei and ncd got more reruns

[robust thistle]

what angle of evaluation that can make cairn look good for a *5

[obtuse obsidian]

didnt ncd get one

[brazen gulch]

irene was promised to me 3000 years ago, i'm not sure i have the time to orundum farm

[robust thistle]

philae is practically better cairn and shes from red cert

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, and so did xiaohei, but need more

[undone portal]

yea, mewtypes getting an anime
sakiko/tomori are still very much advertised as the our notes protags, and i doubt haimao would pass up on the opportunity to put in the other band with pre-established popularity

[coarse notch]

im not sure you have the time to red cert farm enough either ngl

[vital kelp]

xiaohei got a recollab?

when tf was that i wanted that suzuran skin

[abstract mauve]

NI fast cycle and can give herself barrier

[obtuse obsidian]

i dont remember murdering the lover drones another time

[lyric lagoon]

I might be misremembering

[undone portal]

cairn doesnt rely on skill activations to proc nervous (already better than necrosis) and gives herself a fat 90% barrier every 22sec. i think youre underselling her a bit

[coarse notch]

i dont think lxh got a rerun unfortunately

[robust thistle]

oh ok I see that the skill doesnt have a duration

[vital kelp]

this is true, but lowkey feel like people would riot over whos gonna be the 6 star

cuz for mujika its clearly gonna be sakiko but then for mygo theres gonna be a debate

[robust thistle]

it just spawns a barrier that deals damage for 10s

[quick jolt]

i was just about to say this, i feel like it could be anon or tomori

[vital kelp]

afterall i believe anon has a much much bigger fan base in china

[scenic wharf]

can you 0 frame on iphone? cba playing emu all the time

[vital kelp]

and hg wont do a dual 6 star cuz they will definitely riot

[undone portal]

anons more popular, sure, but mygos story is very much about tomori. i dont see hg choosing anyone else unless they somehow have an interesting kit idea for anon in mind like they did for marcille

[coarse notch]

you probably cant but its a pain in the ass and i wouldnt trust it enough to rely upon it when needed

[median fable]

better than lappland and specter for sure aside from dps but it's such a non issue considering his talent, maybe we should just recommend him for the e2 lv80 ticket to new players

e2 lv80 sl7 considered

[vital kelp]

is it realistically about tomori? lowkey both mygo and mujika is around frigging sakiko

[undone portal]

did we watch the same show

[nimble kite]

Who?

[median fable]

Skybox, should have specified

[nimble kite]

Nah, KroosAlter my beloved.

[vital kelp]

we should move to #off-topic before light smites us here but

[median fable]

even if I already dread the "why skybox doesn't attack ground enemies"

[undone portal]

too high, cant aim

[vital kelp]

why doesnt skybox target ground enemies?

[undone portal]

[nimble kite]

Talent Ig.

[quick jolt]

people are gonna use the same excuse they use to not wanna use tequila lmao

[robust thistle]

hes the chief of ATF, he has no business on people crawling on the ground

[marble viper]

[undone portal]

thinking on it, im not actually sure why skybox is restricted from hitting ground enemies while taking off when the skyrangers dont seem to have any issue

[abstract mauve]

off-skill it's only air. on-skill he targets both

[median fable]

e1 lv50 numbers are also good so we can just recommend him for e1 anyway

[quick jolt]

maybe hes just nearsighted

[robust thistle]

skyrangers cant target ground pretty sure no?

[abstract mauve]

are you taking into consideration canceling skill early after the 5th shot?

[undone portal]

ig thats fair, mr. tannons getting on in years

[nimble kite]

Contrail does hit Ground too.

[scenic wharf]

he only gets prescription glasses while on skill

[quick jolt]

no he just goes down so they're closer and not blurry!

[nimble kite]

Only offskill cannot attack Aerial, onskill attacks both types.

[sick holly]

https://www.krooster.com/u/srsurchin

idk what to focus on upgrading, any operators I should upgrade to e2? Should I save resources for the next good operator I get?

[median fable]

the overload part of the skill?

[obtuse obsidian]

5* horn

[robust thistle]

oh ig its just cublass thing

[abstract mauve]

after her fires the 5th shot, you can cancel to instantly fire the last 5

[robust thistle]

skybreaker is just reverse skyranger ig

[abstract mauve]

i take it into consideration when calculating cycle dps

[undone portal]

its like exualt/marcille s1s, immediate deactivation is technically the best for dps if you can deal with the micro

[robust thistle]

skyranger cant attack aerial offskill
skybreaker cant attack ground offskill

[quick jolt]

i am genuinely unaware of what marcille s1 does actually

[median fable]

kinda hard to chart it considering, I thought that it would be already included in the total dmg
dps I just considered normal ammo consumption

[robust thistle]

it can heal or deal dmg depending on whats in her range

[abstract mauve]

each attack use mana to deal increased damage or heal increased amount

[coarse notch]

kalter s2 downscale

[quick jolt]

[undone portal]

chants for 1.5sec into a fat atk buff while using mana per attack. if no enemies in range, she heals instead

[robust thistle]

if theres enemies in her range, she hits them, if theres no enemies then she heals

[craggy belfry]

Is it not time rn for nasti banner ???

[abstract mauve]

check pins

[median fable]

I can make more plots only for his dps considering how early you cancel skill

[robust thistle]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[vale dock]

finish your masteries and mod lvl 3 your pram 2

[nimble kite]

No, but it's today now.

[abstract mauve]

skill cancel is a big part of his s2. seems fair

[undone portal]

does marcille s1 still hold the hph record or has someone beaten it

[craggy belfry]

I see

[abstract mauve]

doesnt doc heal more?

[undone portal]

oh, forgot about doc no ones beating him for a while

[wind blade]

Skyrangers can attack air offskill, it just doesn’t do much

[nimble kite]

Uber 30k HPH after ATK hyperbuff.

[abstract mauve]

skyrangers just have ranged attacks

[robust thistle]

this is very confusing

[abstract mauve]

it can be yeah

[marble viper]

[undone portal]

skyrangers can target both always
skybreakers target aerial only offskill
pretty simple

[opaque remnant]

Basically inverse flingers right

Only difference is their on skills

[undone portal]

inverse flingers ✅

[wind blade]

Clearly they must be inverse wisadel since they target both on skill

[fresh anvil]

wisadel skill 3

[obtuse obsidian]

flingers s3 is like inverse skyrangers

[opaque remnant]

Counter point is the fact that they don’t break the damage ceiling, yet

[undone portal]

this is great, now i can tell newbies that they can have their very own mini wis'adel tomorrow

[proven kelp]

Don't inverse flinger just don't hit group units

[undone portal]

yes. thats what skybreakers do offskill

[harsh marsh]

I have 1049 currency left in the I Portatori event, should I just buy materials or do I buy the last 2 CS Tokens? I don't really plan to use CS honestly since I already have Phantom and use him alot

[marble viper]

only wang s3 can hit air?

[wind blade]

Only supports the inverse wisadel s3 because they don’t do gamebreaking damage

[harsh marsh]

All of his skills can, I believe

[median fable]

@abstract mauve

[marble viper]

[obtuse obsidian]

buy mats

get CS tokens later from record restore

[undone portal]

wang can on all skills, but he is the first time any trapmaster can have their mines hit air

[harsh marsh]

Thanks

[marble viper]

[proven kelp]

And Flinger still don't hit air even on skill aside from Wis ( to an extent, Ros )

Might as well call them Inverse Wis s3 -Dmg, Range, summon

[quick jolt]

holy fuck tysm for reminding me i have 2k shop currency i genuinely forgot 😭

[obtuse obsidian]

they be making sure he solo them air stages

[marble viper]

crazy that his balls can be on non deployable tiles

[obtuse obsidian]

soloing chap 15 boss aint enough

he need to solo the drone stages too

[proven kelp]

Can he solo Spec ban stage

[obtuse obsidian]

probably i wont be surprised if he did somehow

[undone portal]

he solos prts stage wtf?

[obtuse obsidian]

youtube just saw me existing and throw at me a solo for wang on 7-18 mineless h7-4 and 15-20

[fresh anvil]

[undone portal]

ch7 doesnt surprise me. ch15 does

[nimble kite]

[obtuse obsidian]

i was surprised by ch7 cause i thought patriot throw spear before exiting invul

[abstract mauve]

hell yeah he's just goated like that 🗣️

[glossy schooner]

It’s Wang, the worlds most brainless op, at least Wis actually has problems with uber high defense

[abstract mauve]

wisadel and wang share a weakness of damage reflect enemies

[obtuse obsidian]

wang 0 - 1 thorn chest

[robust thistle]

skillfully retreat his extra traps before it procs

[glossy schooner]

As with any Op really

[abstract mauve]

i dont think you can

[robust thistle]

wow sad

[obtuse obsidian]

spalter will beat the chest in 1v1 wdym

[abstract mauve]

acc lemme check rq. im sure i tried this before

[undone portal]

you cant retreat traps once theyve entered detonation phase i dont think. ive attempted with dorothy before

[obtuse obsidian]

time to use 9 hope for 4 ingot brb

[quick jolt]

well iirc he is The first h7-4 solo and hes a ranged op which patriot notoriously counters most of

but yeah he solos 15-20 and iirc its with s2 too

[obtuse obsidian]

pretty sure he is the only one that solo 7-18 mineless unless chen does too

[harsh marsh]

is Unrealized Realities a continuation of the Rhine Lab trilogy?

[undone portal]

s2??

[obtuse obsidian]

the one i saw was s3

[quick jolt]

let me try to find, i could be tripping

[undone portal]

story picks up right where nasti left off after discussing her uraniborg project at the rhine-aegir press conference

[harsh marsh]

thanks

[abstract mauve]

wang traps spawned by talent literally cannot be accessed. ye i tried this before

to be more accurate, any trap not spawned by you cannot be accessed. talent, s3 start and s3 extra traps cannot be retreated
accessed as in opening the stats page and viewing range

[left tulip]

Does that mean the tile is locked until they explode so you can’t deploy ops

[quick jolt]

okay yeah i was tripping i think. maybe it was a different stage

[abstract mauve]

character built to be bullied by damage reflect

[abstract mauve]

na you can place over them
it just removes the trap

[left tulip]

[coarse notch]

wang talent traps are coded as projectiles

[glossy schooner]

Every stage from after Wang’s release will have damage reflect to keep him in check forever

[abstract mauve]

ep 17 had "no you" enemies. not exactly damage reflect but they hurt quite a bit

[left tulip]

I mean have him face the wall stack a bunch of healers and deploy the traps real slow

[abstract mauve]

acc ep 17 also has enemies with massive hp pools. maybe they alr know how to counter wang

[raven ermine]

Well chen3 is on the same banner 🥹

[abstract mauve]

😭

[undone portal]

maybe the real ceobe alter was the ch'3ns we made along the way

[iron dirge]

Why's LeiziAlter good

[random kestrel]

why she isnt?

[quick jolt]

damage, and near invulnerability offskill allowing for aggressive placement

[raven ermine]

Because big damage, versatility, and takeoff permanently offskill

[undone portal]

damage
basically untouchable offskill

[abstract mauve]

damn no one mention cheap cost 🥀

[quick jolt]

oh yeah that too. basically every meta dps has it now so i forgor!

[undone portal]

dp doesnt feel a real resource half the time

[raven ermine]

Honestly she could cost 23 dp and still be good

[undone portal]

frankly she could cost 36 and still be good

[quick jolt]

alright slow down

[fresh anvil]

she could cost 40 and still be good?

[abstract mauve]

ok chill guys

[raven ermine]

99 dp, deal

[odd sky]

sash2 swap

[split bronze]

100dp, can only be used in anni

[sand grail]

"Huge HP pool" sound like it counter pretty much all operators in the game as well

[obtuse obsidian]

it dont counter lunacub

she already dont kill anything so her usage is not effected

[split bronze]

chen3

[undone portal]

idk first clip ive seen of ch17 enemies was a pair of them walking down a lane and getting killed by lin s3 of all things so how huge could it be

[quick jolt]

so what you're telling me is i need to build lin

[undone portal]

correct

[abstract mauve]

well to give more context, it's huge hp pool with 0 defense. it heavily favors phys damage

[raven ermine]

I don't know about ch17 enemies specifically, but high hp, low def, are shredded by many operators in the game

[sand grail]

Oh

[quick jolt]

low def? im making krooster kill it

[sand grail]

Time for enchin to shine

[abstract mauve]

the episode kinda shills closure a decent bit

[fresh anvil]

glazing closure

[uncut musk]

high hp is worse than high def

[obtuse obsidian]

wow maybe i can use my 11 e2 marksmans

[marble viper]

[undone portal]

closure s3 seems like she would immediately explode on damage reflect

[quick jolt]

its definitely not

[fresh anvil]

what if you put both of these together

[raven ermine]

Based on what ?
It's very much not

[nimble kite]

High DEF against Arts/True

[fresh anvil]

elemental damage

[raven ermine]

High hp against %hp damage or phys
That's the same for every enemy with an obvious bypass

[craggy belfry]

How many sp battery are there in game stackable

[sand grail]

For damage reflect, I guess you either chip damage slowly like waiting for gta6 release, or use silence2

[robust thistle]

can you rephrase that

[quick jolt]

they mean what sp battery effects can stack together

like i guess % boosts

[robust thistle]

unless specifically mentioned, they all stack

[undone portal]

well.. all of them except mostima/suzuran/ptilopsis skill auras

[craggy belfry]

How many unit are there having a stackable (extra sp gain)
If they all stack how many are there

[abstract mauve]

shu stainless quercus liskarm nasti sp/s(choose one: ptilopsis, suzuran, mostima) IS relics

[marble viper]

[robust thistle]

windflit where

[raven ermine]

All sp regen don't stack with each other afaik
All sp "gains" can stack with anything else no issues

[abstract mauve]

oh windflit is a unit

[undone portal]

omg windflit mention

[opaque remnant]

Shu?

[fresh anvil]

gain 1 sp

[marble viper]

[nimble kite]

Unlimited. The only restrictions may be only (conditional braskets).

[undone portal]

yea windflit s1 is a skill that exists

[abstract mauve]

shu 4 suibling talent

[raven ermine]

yes shu, the 4 sui part of the talent

[opaque remnant]

Oh, Sui

[fresh anvil]

you can put wang benched

[abstract mauve]

it's gotten way easier to slot 4 sui with wang coming up soo

[undone portal]

'slot shu/wang/yu/nian' doesnt even sound like a restriction icl

[abstract mauve]

ong

[raven ermine]

Sacrificing 3 slots in gen content is already not an issue tbf

[fresh anvil]

not like you can use all your team

[undone portal]

observable with the amount of abyssalslop players out there

[raven ermine]

Hey hey don't throw stones now

[left tulip]

Hating on AHs

[slate ridge]

Vermeil

[craggy belfry]

Wait sui family buff each other passively

[fresh anvil]

stray bullet hit me guys

[undone portal]

im a proud burnslop/avemujica user, unnecessarily convoluted synergies are my thing

[fresh anvil]

you need shu

[abstract mauve]

no. shu has a talent that buffs your team when you bring 4 sui

[marble viper]

[raven ermine]

Would be more accurate to call them sp auras then yeah

[craggy belfry]

What's the buff

[slate ridge]

Tldr self and global sp regen stacks
Corroserum Vermeil etc

[undone portal]

go read her talent on wiki. it depends

[keen lichen]

Is lapplalters module any good?

[nimble kite]

+1 SP every 4 sec, all ops in the field.

[marble viper]

[raven ermine]

Mod1 is decent for total damage, going further is not

[fresh anvil]

read

[nimble kite]

Mod1 at most. Don't go further.

[left tulip]

Buffing her Atk is good but it’s really not all that

[keen lichen]

Ic

[left tulip]

Wait for the next one ! gonna buff her better talent

[undone portal]

lappalt mod3 for the giant buff that is +10aspd for penance frfr

[fresh anvil]

andreana or something idk

[left tulip]

For lady Vulpisfoglia

[fresh anvil]

thats right the new event is today yay

[left tulip]

Ong I wanna see lappland second mod tho

SURELY she gets +2 drones instead

[fresh anvil]

makes her more of a buffer to siracusans

[left tulip]

I mean that’s her first one

[fresh anvil]

ignore damage reduction gains +2 drones or something

[left tulip]

Yes exactly

[lyric lagoon]

boutta just make her silence have the duration of her og silence

[abstract mauve]

shit's boutta be straight ass

[left tulip]

Yall a bunch of haters for no reason

[jagged condor]

Can I see what y'all built in base?

[random kestrel]

can go that direction yeah

[abstract mauve]

not even haters. they've done this type of thing before

[raven ermine]

It's lappalt, it's reason enough

[left tulip]

Mayu why

[quick jolt]

have you met lappland fans? they deserve a shit mod

[nimble kite]

fu

[random kestrel]

wcyd when her wolves take 5 business day each travel :icant:

[left tulip]

🔪 🔪 🔪 🔪 🔪 🔪 I am one

[proven kelp]

My condolences

[marble viper]

true

[vital kelp]

real

[vital kelp]

base guide in pinned message

[lyric lagoon]

only to lock onto some random bumfuck infinite hp stage mechanic structure

[left tulip]

Discrimination in #help

[undone portal]

lappalt rendering herself unusable on that one jessicalt event sss stage this season

[spare jetty]

yes it exists

[vital kelp]

lappland bootlicker gets what lappland bootlickers gets

[spare jetty]

cant even do vermin on s1 for lappalt

[fresh anvil]

deserved for lappland glaze

[undone portal]

also what is with this lapipi slander in my help channel :realmad: well written characters dont deserve this

[left tulip]

"Bootlickers" is propaganda

[lyric lagoon]

we literally have someone named lappland bootlicker 🥹

[vital kelp]

and they are puffy pro max

[proven kelp]

It's not even about lappland
Just her glazers

[left tulip]

Yes like we have people posting horny Pallas things

[abstract mauve]

bless those people

[undone portal]

oh, true half the lappland fans dont even know her

[vital kelp]

guys how do i know if a spike will spawn, some times maps i thought has spawns doesnt spawn one for some reason

[fresh anvil]

looks at profile

[spare jetty]

randomly spawns

[quick jolt]

they are set spawns, youll eventually just remember the maps that have them by heart

[abstract mauve]

maps have guaranteed spawns for spikes. some maps have spawns only for emergency mode. also check the epoch. sometimes the epoch guarantees spawns

[left tulip]

The entire channel still hating on her tho

[spare jetty]

wuh i read it as spiked chests

[vital kelp]

right

[fresh anvil]

[coarse notch]

you can check tomimi for spine spawns

[left tulip]

Actually yea are chests completely random

[vital kelp]

and the spike spawn location may vary even with set stage?

[abstract mauve]

there's multiple set locations

[quick jolt]

on some maps yeah but theres also set spots they can be in

[coarse notch]

depends on the stage

[spare jetty]

quite certain for frequent dispute who has 5% to get bigger spike

[quick jolt]

even the extra spikes from catastrophes epoch have set locations

[coarse notch]

check tomimi until you've memorized them all

[abstract mauve]

like some maps you are guaranteed 1 spike but there are like 2-3 spawn locations

[vital kelp]

and some map has diff variants?
i know the 5 spike map can have middle path open or top path open

[abstract mauve]

that's the main stage with a stage variant. most just have like light enemy variance

[obtuse obsidian]

some maps have rare variants

like the 2 rocks near holes can have flying chests instead of flying mans

[spare jetty]

epochal gaps?

[vital kelp]

i dont know names

[coarse notch]

aquapits is a complete joke now as well

leave it to hg to change hole logic and break the stage

[abstract mauve]

they butchered it sob

[coarse notch]

[undone portal]

i just remember epochal gaps as 'that one map i always take because it has 2 plans'

[quick jolt]

it has 5

[marble viper]

free plan

[abstract mauve]

it has way more than 2 plans

[coarse notch]

that would be bloodline debates

[abstract mauve]

different floors too

[undone portal]

its both

[coarse notch]

epochal gaps has 5 (6) plans

[undone portal]

ah right, epochal gaps is the more goated one
sorry its been a while since ive is5ed

[vital kelp]

is frequent disbute also one of the more difficult stages

[quick jolt]

i dont blame you, gamemode sucks!

[coarse notch]

id say its probably the most dangerous stage of is5

[abstract mauve]

frequent dispute can be ass yeah

[spare jetty]

certainly

but not the hardest

[quick jolt]

i do personally lose to frequent disputes more than regular army / rhine guardian, only because of when they appear. half the time when i get the latter two ive already robbed shop

[undone portal]

ah yes, frequent dispute. the 'i hope youre playing jessicalt fireworks comp' stage

[vital kelp]

what is the rewards of faceoff? is it better than a normal combat? it gives 1 plan by default and im wondering what it drops

[coarse notch]

if you're playing disciplined you'll have access to 300 atkspd against the f5 stages

[spare jetty]

oh yes the spike is quite spiking on it

[marble viper]

😭 is it the one with theresis

[abstract mauve]

i find the 3 other stages infinitely worse but ye

[coarse notch]

in terms of value its between a nm and em

[robust thistle]

pretty sure left is 2 tongbaos, middle is 1 tongbao 1 relic, right is 2 relic

[quick jolt]

we're talking about is5 rn

[fresh anvil]

w hits really hard in is5?

[abstract mauve]

it's an emergency with 1 plan is how i like to put it

[robust thistle]

oh IS5, well its 1,5 of a regular combat node ig

[undone portal]

rhine guardians is a run killer like 60% of the time ime

[vital kelp]

hm... any chance of me winning against the bind caster? or should i settle with red blade

[random kestrel]

oh frequent dispute
that one easy

[glass nexus]

should i help her? shes hot

[marble viper]

help her

[spare jetty]

free combat

[vital kelp]

ur level 2

do not

[coarse notch]

depends on what diff this is
ros cooks this at e2 but uh

[quick jolt]

yes you get a fight! no idea if you can do it, but fights are good!

[robust thistle]

cant you just sakiko the caster from like 4 tiles away

[abstract mauve]

free combat. dont blame us if you lose tho

[marble viper]

[undone portal]

i can almost guarantee you do not have the operators to handle whats about to happen if you do

[vital kelp]

oh true

[random kestrel]

yes help her
joke aside, it the usual trap moment

[vital kelp]

oh NOT TRUE

floor debuff frozen her on deployment 😭

[glass nexus]

imma try to win

[obtuse obsidian]

be nice and always help cute girls

cute girls cant be evil

[abstract mauve]

i pray for you

[marble viper]

very true

[robust thistle]

or like, bait it once with mon3tr crystal, then retreat it

[wind blade]

mont3r and deploy her crystal to bait bind?

[left tulip]

Sending people to death

[vital kelp]

i dont have sp relic

[robust thistle]

you dont need sp relic no?

[fresh anvil]

dont hot ladies are bait

[spare jetty]

not death
to more rewards

[robust thistle]

just drop the crystal, proc the bind, retreat it, put it back on chokepoint

[vital kelp]

wym? i thought the crystal are -1 taunt

[abstract mauve]

if it's a trap, why do i always fall for it?

[glass nexus]

i lost 2 lifes

[coarse notch]

you'd need the crystal and only the crystal to be in the bind casters range

[quick jolt]

it is but if its in the caster's range while mon3tr isnt, then it doesnt have a choice

[raven ermine]

Yes, but if it's the only thing in range they'll still attack it

[marble viper]

yayyyy u won

[robust thistle]

well you drop mon3tr out of range and put the crystal in range

[wind blade]

taunt only matters if there are multiple targets in range, if she stays out of range the crystal still gets hit first

[undone portal]

if you put crystal far in front the caster will see it before mon3tr is in range

[abstract mauve]

[vital kelp]

oh right

oh well i lost with sakiko since i forgor the floor relic

[robust thistle]

[random kestrel]

[undone portal]

we usually see people lose a lot more here
exualt s2 is a pretty easy solution