help

[weary wren]

Sorry I hit enter early, added more context 🙃

[pine bronze]

Ohh i hate that ak isnt in my country so i do have to use apk

[nimble kite]

Still KroosAlter. Especially in IS3, she's more viable there.

[weary wren]

Okie dokie thanks!

[normal solstice]

does nasti ranged tile stop thorns alter 6 consecutive meele tile from working ?

[ancient current]

are you a 5* player or

[nimble kite]

Then yeah, get used to manually update your client.

[obtuse obsidian]

conisder not spending hope on 5*

[weary wren]

I just like to raise up 1 of each class/rarity to account for the odd squads that encourage it and to vary the gameplay, so not really a nicheknight but just an off-meta enjoyer

[pine bronze]

Yall does take off ops take dmg or can be targetted be ground enemies?

[obtuse obsidian]

consider skybox i think

[weary wren]

Honestly Skybox is probably bad but his design is so good I'd consider it lol

[pine bronze]

Wait so they just cant be targetted?

[ancient current]

skybox is close to being the best 5*

by ground enemies yes

[fresh anvil]

huh?

[obtuse obsidian]

sky box is strong for a 5*

he wont replace a 6* dps but he wont be disappointing as a 5*

[pine bronze]

Yo thats nice btw what branch is skybox?

[ancient current]

skyranger... i think that's how it's called

[obtuse obsidian]

new one

flying snipers :ya:

[weary wren]

Isn't he unable to reliably hit ground? That seems like it'd be an issue in IS when you're op constrained

[pine bronze]

Yo basically flying marksman

[obtuse obsidian]

think of him like a tequilla

he charge safely then do big damage

[pine bronze]

He only attacks flying enemies while take off lol

[opaque remnant]

He can’t target ground enemies off skill right

[weary wren]

I'll support him and give it a whirl, why not

[obtuse obsidian]

ya not like other snipers do damage off skill anyway :ya:

[opaque remnant]

So kalter did indeed break the archetype somewhat already

[ancient current]

he does damage, unlike other 5* snipers

[obtuse obsidian]

no thats a different archtype

[opaque remnant]

Oh right, tarax

[fresh anvil]

takes off but different thing

[obtuse obsidian]

flying medic do shit while flying

flying sniper is the only flyers that dont hit ground

[opaque remnant]

He’s so forgettable as a unit

[knotty wave]

We used to have long ones like 6 hrs but they changed it to 4 hrs and even 4 hr maint is pretty rare as they just dump every upcoming event in that timeframe and just do 10 min maint to make those events visible to us.

[obtuse obsidian]

contrail is being a goat already in my IS3 runs as opener

[fresh anvil]

is he even out

[limpid yarrow]

kroos2 greyy2 is probably as far as you get normally
april for ros pillars
blue poison if you're incredibly based and playing first class squad is5
meteorite for is2 archetto

[limpid yarrow]

2/3 hope 💀

[ancient current]

aosta if you're schizo and play is6

[weary wren]

[pine bronze]

Yay btw does long maintaince gives more

[obtuse obsidian]

i can hire a 6* after first fight

[opaque remnant]

Weren’t the 5 starknights player happy when they got snow hunter

[limpid yarrow]

all two of them im sure

[weary wren]

Snow Hunter seems to do okay dam, but I'm not very good at this game so idk wtf is going on

[opaque remnant]

Propaganda, they’re fine I guess? Not really a raise priority

[ancient current]

she's fine but honestly I'm not convinced

[opaque remnant]

Neither am I

[pine bronze]

Btw yall is skybox better than kroos2

[ancient current]

she is nice but eh

[weary wren]

The big self heal + defense when running SAA is pretty nice

[opaque remnant]

They don’t immediately fold when the enemy has any semblance of defense

[pine bronze]

So his dmg is decent enough to deal with lightly armoured enemies?

[opaque remnant]

Should be, don’t quote me on this

[ancient current]

toddifons is a bit schizo but lowkey interesting in is5
(for 5* players mostly)

[inland osprey]

normal shieldguard prob yes , those elite shieldguard i dont think so

[opaque remnant]

Ah, also how’s cairn, they actually seem to be surprisingly decent for a 5 stars

[pine bronze]

Btw im looking at his kit but does anyone knows the numbers on him??

[fresh anvil]

does he clear the slug stage

[opaque remnant]

Doesn’t he have AoE?

[ancient current]

on s1 yes

[inland osprey]

skybox? you can look him up in sanitygone or wiki

better to use wiki , since hes not in global yet , and sanitygone still using his chinese words

[ancient current]

decent

[strange cedar]

whats best place to get lmd? i heard iot was reclaimation algorithm?

[hidden nacelle]

reclamation = IS > Events > Base >>>>>>>>>> LMD stage

[echo oasis]

Wuts the current banner and how long till Wang?

[ancient current]

here's an extremely poorly edited rundown of the ones i use in IS if that helps

[echo oasis]

Lv 1 Wis

[severe crypt]

Knowing rechord that’s a given

[faint lotus]

Snowhunter’s great as a starter in IS 4 (for 5*s)

[ancient current]

barely used her so far

so can't tell

will try though

[severe crypt]

Time to m6 her rechord 🥹

[ancient current]

she already is

[severe crypt]

…why am I not surprised

[ancient current]

i m6 and worry about why i did it later

anyways

pileofjunk, do you run first class in is4?

[echo oasis]

Anyone?

[ancient current]

check pins, and wang is in around 2 months

[faint lotus]

Defender/supporter with instant e2 firewhistle

[ancient current]

with e1 snow?

[faint lotus]

Yes

[ancient current]

interesting

will try thanks

[pine bronze]

Why tf does skybox e2 requires chap 15 elite materials bru

[ancient current]

isn't ch15 out

[pine bronze]

Im NOT doing that shi but hey at least hes good at e1 right yall?

[severe crypt]

We on chap 16 now
17 in 5 months

[ancient current]

you can rant about it elsewhere, but yes he's fine at e1

[severe crypt]

You do know you can skip to chap 15 right

Immediately after completing stage 3-8

[pine bronze]

Yes and also it has lv balancing

[faint lotus]

Those two can beat every floor one stage (except elite prisoner one because I haven’t gotten it yet), snowhunter murders every floor 3 boss, and can mostly deal with the right side of ed1. Firewhistle helps with a lot of the harder floor 3 encounters, and is also decent for ed1.

[severe crypt]

Wdym level balancing

[ancient current]

e pris should be fine, would be surprised if firewhistle doesn't body it
d15 yeah

[pine bronze]

Like does it lower the lv for u so u can beat it like act 2 or sum?

[severe crypt]

What level are you talking about, recommended levels?

[pine bronze]

Yes ig

[hidden nacelle]

no but you can do the baby easy mode instead of standard or adverse (challenge)

[severe crypt]

You do know those don’t matter for the most part right
Like no one pays attention to them

[faint lotus]

D15, but I haven’t beaten the harder ed1 yet

[severe crypt]

You just need a good 6 star carry and you can easily get to stage 15-9

[pine bronze]

I dont even think u could do challange atp cause spec difference unless u are rlly good at the game

[severe crypt]

I don’t see how a support unit isn’t enough to get to 15-9

[hidden nacelle]

spec difference??
I don't know I think most of us here have only done challenge mode and don't know how "hard" standard is

[ancient current]

ice cold is fucking tough for 5* yeah. makes sense ty
im getting back to is4 rn since is6 is pretty bad, so have to get back the ropes again and figure out the new drafts
i'm a casual anyway i only play d12

[severe crypt]

I’d reckon standard is easy and plenty of guides exist for it on yt

There shouldn’t be much trouble getting to the chap 15 stage to unlock the mat

[dense herald]

With mountain skin coming in a couple of months, can anyone here explain RA mode? I've heard it's awful but I need to get that skin

[severe crypt]

Well, ra2 wasn’t “awful” as it was long and boring
For the most part, developed accounts breeze through it

[dense herald]

What about this upcoming one? Is it a rogue like?

[severe crypt]

Well no RA iteration was a roguelike so

[dense herald]

I've never done RA anyway until when the skin comes

[severe crypt]

With a developed account, as long as you understand mechanics, it might be as easy as d10 is, maybe even easier

Tho I dunno much about ra3 specifics

[wispy peak]

do you guys use skadi?

[severe crypt]

In a certain context or generally

[wispy peak]

at all

[severe crypt]

Generally? Almost 0 use compared to the competition

Might even be an actual 0

[wispy peak]

got a pretty good passive tbf

[lyric lagoon]

it isn’t even that long to clear the entire campaign, though can be boring/challenging if you don’t know what you’re doing

[severe crypt]

Which is…

[lyric lagoon]

abyssal hunter

[severe crypt]

So again, gen content wise, just use ulpi

[lyric lagoon]

also +22% atk isn’t all that big compared to other buffers out there

[wispy peak]

she buffs ulpi??

[severe crypt]

SOLO
USE ULPI SOLO

and yes she does, but ulpi dilutes the buff, meaning she barely buffs him

And if she barely does that, what is her use now

TLDR, unless a pure ah clear, she has like 0 use in the big 26

[lyric lagoon]

the cult of kyaa skadi and abyssal sloppers are prob the only people who use her

[pine bronze]

Guys silence s2 is better than s1 right? The drone is prolly decent right

[ancient current]

yes

[pine bronze]

I have no idea which skill to pick 😭

[pale tapir]

the drone is basically global heal
we have eyjaberry at home type deal

[severe crypt]

S2 is the superior skill

[pine bronze]

Im so dummy im fucked (idk what im doing anymore

[young glacier]

You can stack drone with her normal healing, or with my personal inability to deploy shit within medic range

[pine bronze]

Real 2 medic is never enough

Dawg i only just notice most of my ops skills are rank 4 or 5

[pale tapir]

if you don't have enough healing the actual problem is usually that you don't have enough damage

[rain forge]

limbus collab bringing in the skadi fans

[ancient current]

[fresh anvil]

i just bring her and use the rest of my other units

[raven ermine]

It's absolutely zero
She's not as bad as people will make her seem to be, but she's way below the usual options, even mid ones
The only reason you use skadi is being an AH player, or a skadi shill/apologist

[brazen gulch]

What's up with the data here? https://penguin-stats.io/result/stage/weekly_5/wk_toxic_5 I'm pretty sure AP-* stages are supposed to drop red certificates?

Or to get to the point, my bad: does anyone recall how many red certs does one AP-5 reenact give?

[raven ermine]

https://penguin-stats.io/result/item
Red certs aren't included in penguin data set afaik
It's around 21-22 per run, average being 21 iirc

[undone portal]

yea, just a simple 20-22 range, 21 common

the other items are from vignette events allowing ap-5 to drop other stuff

[brazen gulch]

huh, interesting

thanks people

[formal shadow]

it's the same for LMD 🥀

they're just items that the website does not track (by LMD I mean the CE-6 drop not the sanity based one)

[raven ermine]

Isn't lmd a fixed amount per stage ? idr if it has a drop range or not

[undone portal]

ce stages are fixed

[formal shadow]

it's fixed

[raven ermine]

Yeah it's like 10k for CE-6 right ?

[formal shadow]

technically you get a tiny bit more because you get lmd based on sanity spent

[cyan vault]

do loopshoter benefit from aspd?

[brazen gulch]

yes but it doesn't change the projectile speed

[limpid yarrow]

only up to a point

at some point you're restricted by the loop actually needing to come back

[nova oak]

will the new event have a welfare unit?

[undone portal]

yes, skybox. 5star skybreaker sniper (new archetype)

[nova oak]

oh is it the one who flies

[undone portal]

flies offskill, lands onskill to do aoe dmg

[nova oak]

is he decent at all?

[raven ermine]

For a 5*, yes

[undone portal]

quite good for a welfare unit. definitely worth building if youre looking for more damage options

dare i say hes usually better than kroosalt

[nova oak]

woah!

[faint lotus]

He’s more comparable to tequila than kroos alter

[nova oak]

how do you get an additional support unit?

[grave bramble]

He targets aerial when he farts lands?

[nova oak]

i only have one slot unlocked

[limpid yarrow]

upgrade reception room

[faint lotus]

He can hit air, but he plays more like a liberator than a marksman

[nova oak]

oh jeez

[brazen gulch]

you don't, you can only borrow one unit at a time

[nova oak]

i meant like the slots i give

[brazen gulch]

my bad in that case

[nova oak]

wait you can't downgrade reception room? did i just lock myself out from the ideal base layout? 😭

[jagged condor]

Except the cargo is there any way to get more moni?

[raven ermine]

Don't upgrade RR past level 2
If you already have office higher than level 1, don't upgrade RR at all

[severe crypt]

Base, and don’t farm ce

[nova oak]

i just upgraded it to 2

[raven ermine]

What level is your office at ?

[nova oak]

1

[jagged condor]

I just started and I desperately need money 😞

[raven ermine]

Good , don't touch either anymore, or you won't be able to have max left side in a 252 setup

[severe crypt]

You wanna work on getting your base up and running, and you’ll no longer need ce6

[nova oak]

oh damn i thought i'm cooked ahaha, will i still be able to do 252 and lvl 3 training room?

[brazen gulch]

consider playing IS. IS5 in particular is quite simple to farm the battle pass of with a wis'adel borrow

[nova oak]

i'm running a 252 but i will downgrade one of my trading posts to level 3 to get the power needed

[jagged condor]

Uhmm.... What is IS?

[severe crypt]

Integrated strategies

[frank wing]

its the rougelike mode of this game

[raven ermine]

You'll have to downgrade one factory or one trading post to lv2 for TR3 iirc
Still way better than needing to run 4 lv2 facs because you somehow upgraded office/RR too far

[fickle anvil]

What does gavials skill 1 and 2 actually mean when it says "buff"? The wording is really unclear to me

[severe crypt]

Pretty sure no actual buff occurs

[frank wing]

you can just ignore it, it's just the effect it has when she heals

[fickle anvil]

I see... So it's just a normal heal ?

[young glacier]

Likely lingering effect which won't go away if something happens to gavial before it do entire thing.
Don't pay too much mind to it, this game has some cursed coding moments in it.

[raven ermine]

The "buff" is the regen she applies

[ivory terrace]

can she target enmity with at least s2

or does it spout green number so doesn't matter

[fickle anvil]

Gotcha thanks

[jagged condor]

Where can I navigate that? Cause I'm literally clueless on where to find it

[hoary bramble]

unlocks at 3-8 or smth

[jagged condor]

FUH that's why I can see it

[formal shadow]

better get back on that story grind

[young glacier]

Side content unlocked after like uh 3-8 or whatever (I physically can't check condition for something i unlocked before it was added without digging some wiki ). Don't pay tooooo much mind to it as it uses your operators and you won't have fun without much stuff build unless you use that one speedrun to Radion unlock IS6

[jagged condor]

Haven't cleared the separated something in story ✌🏻😔

[hoary bramble]

losing to last boss for like 4 fucking times now i can say it's not fun

[young glacier]

Summary of me doing ed2 grind for mastery mission

[nova oak]

borrow wisadel. cheese all of story..

[fresh anvil]

borrow trag

[young glacier]

Don't borrow wisadel and learn how to play this game which will be more healthy experience long run.... Pram2 s2

[nova oak]

cause a beginner will know how to use trag right 😭

[hoary bramble]

i have my own trag

[fresh anvil]

beginner easy

[lyric lagoon]

place cat -> enemies around cat dies

[raven ermine]

I mean, trag skill floor is very low
Ceiling can be high, but the entry cost is basically nonexistent

[glass mural]

Most things in general content don't live cats.

[lyric lagoon]

cannot be simpler than that for beginners, it’s just wang traps but with lure and nervous impairment

[rain forge]

Nervous impairment alone shuts down most enemies

[nova oak]

i can't wait for wang :D

[hoary bramble]

is wang good at is?

[glass mural]

It's like most things are fatally allergic to cats or something. Weird.

[nova oak]

he's going to be sooo balanced and soo fair

[young glacier]

Proceeds to get tragodia killed/leak before cat activates

[glass mural]

He's good EVERYWHERE.

[fresh anvil]

exploding kittens/cats what was that board game again

[hoary bramble]

then fuck is i ain't doing ts until wang 💔

[brazen gulch]

really needed that emphasis

[glass mural]

[nova oak]

3 months btw

[fresh anvil]

[rain forge]

brother just borrow wisadel

[glass mural]

What's TS ag... Oh, IS.

[fresh anvil]

say wallahi bro say wallahi

borrow exu2

[hoary bramble]

i borrow wis and use my trag and last boss exploding bitches kill everyone

[fresh anvil]

cant you block him and lure him to the very top

[tidal vale]

how levelled do my ops have to be for this roughly

[hoary bramble]

im fucking mad after 2 hour runs nuked in 4 mins

[glass mural]

Raidian S1.

[formal shadow]

I don't know the numbers

[fresh anvil]

also technically you can just like let him in the blue box and have tons of hp and shield

[young glacier]

If you fail you can (something something jojo reference gif) and rewind to last save on 3 day interval. I save scammed each boss this way

[formal shadow]

I'm seeing tragodia s2/wis/wang talk and all I'm thinking is how all 3 of them get deleted by reflect chest

[tidal vale]

can my e1 lv40 ops handle that

[hoary bramble]

facts

[brazen gulch]

tragodia's cat is sourced?

[fresh anvil]

mon3tr could never

[hoary bramble]

wait that works???

[formal shadow]

yeah the cat's damage is sourced

[fresh anvil]

like traps, yes

[brazen gulch]

that's a lol

[young glacier]

I didn't do that myself so i don't know how hard is combat, i don't know which specific people you have on e1 40 to say for sure, also idk RA food abuse

[fresh anvil]

you can check him in the archives to see how much health he drains upon entering box

[formal shadow]

traps aren't sourced. It's just wang's talent is sourced

[hoary bramble]

thanks i shall check this out tmr 🫡

[brazen gulch]

aren't most trapmaster traps non-sourced? or is it just that this fact only got highlighted now that people are actively looking for any sign of wang's weakness (exaggerated)

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, traps are usually only sourced towards themselves technically.

[tidal vale]

wym by food abuse

[fresh anvil]

how does dorothy feel about this

[formal shadow]

wang's trap itself is the same. It's just stupid wang himself places the trap that nukes himself

[copper schooner]

dorothy been dead

[wraith sentinel]

Could be used against Uproar since she did the counter attack animation but didn't actually launch an attack due to the source being gone.

[formal shadow]

that reminds me, Dororat has the funny s3 retreat interaction

you can cancel the chain by retreating the mine at the right frames

[young glacier]

Well it is likerally RA2, you know, mode where you can cook food for some stupid effect which i can't name cuz i did cooking in RA1 and don't know if RA2 kept stupid stuff like obtaining faster redeploy 0 DP cost

[tidal vale]

huh

[formal shadow]

food is still broken as far as I know. It was more broken in RA1 cause food lasted infinite iirc

but each RA1 run was like 26 days

[young glacier]

Well RA1 turn count was very finite

[sturdy drift]

How much of Wang's value comes from his module? With the trust factor it looks like I'll have some dead time while I farm his trust requirements when I get him.

[formal shadow]

well you should trust farm him when you get him cause you get more trust on his event

[sturdy drift]

That's the plan, but even so 100 trust takes a while

[fresh anvil]

put him in the activity room control center trust yada yada

[young glacier]

Just slap him in control center and sleep

[sturdy drift]

How fast is it if I do CC + activity room + event trust farming?

[undone portal]

yes though he doesnt prioritize them like marksmen do

[young glacier]

Also while 200 trust is pain, first i dont recall how much % are much quicker to build up

[wraith sentinel]

For me it was about ten days I think? But if you have monthly card probably faster.

[fresh anvil]

me? im not sure but i know those are sources of gaining trust

1-30% is quick

[sturdy drift]

Yeah no worries. It's a set and forget thing. I was just getting impatient because I want to use him as quickly as possible

[formal shadow]

flashbang

[fresh anvil]

this is very friendly for red green people

[young glacier]

Colorblind people who see it as same color:

[fresh anvil]

none of these tell us how long it would take though

[copper schooner]

im colorblind

[brazen gulch]

10070 needed with 850 per day from base and 240 per day from sanity usage, so on paper about 10 days? doesn't ring true to me though, i feel like i got 100% trust much faster than that

[wraith sentinel]

50% increase from event I think?

[sturdy drift]

@wraith sentinel said the same thing, so that backs it up

[brazen gulch]

oh yeah that is true

[fresh anvil]

you are also forgetting the sanity potions we get every week

[wraith sentinel]

Also more if you have the monthly card for daily potions.

[sturdy drift]

Should I start saving sanity potions for the event? Without it expiring

[brazen gulch]

also true

[fresh anvil]

and level ups

[wraith sentinel]

Not for Wang event though, for Nasti.

[fresh anvil]

well youll know when that happens soon

[sturdy drift]

Why Nasti?

[young glacier]

It is literally tomorrow, come one what are you even farming?

[wraith sentinel]

Next event is hers. Wang's is going to take a bit.

[sturdy drift]

I was farming chips

[fresh anvil]

new event new free stuff (at the cost of sanity of course)

[young glacier]

Oh right.... Is supporter chip open?

[tidal vale]

free
costs sanity

[sturdy drift]

Not sure, do you want me to check for you? It is open

Wed / Thu / Sat / Sun

[young glacier]

no need cuz i don't remember if i even need them

[fresh anvil]

Yeah its open rn

[brazen gulch]

compared to what you would have to do to get the same materials outside of the event, yeah i say that's basically free

[fresh anvil]

the one with vanguard and supporter?

[tidal vale]

so can my e1 lv40 ops handle that!

[sturdy drift]

When is the next good kernel banner? I want to spend these pulls

[fresh anvil]

never…

[tidal vale]

in 2 years

[sturdy drift]

I mean marginally good. Current banner is very poor

[fresh anvil]

maybe when shamare and proviso are featured as the five stars

[sturdy drift]

Do we know the schedule?

[fresh anvil]

no

[young glacier]

We get like 1.5 free kernel pull per year and x10 into 6* is like 18% copium (~1/6 etc) not to mention you will jsut get ofbanner to something you don't want we talking 25% rate up!

[fresh anvil]

we just recently got more than that after the retracing our steps though

[tidal vale]

so 3 whole pulls every 2 years

[sturdy drift]

Are they in standard pool or recruit pool?

[fresh anvil]

shamare? nay

[young glacier]

I guess i need to finally go update my stupid image

[fresh anvil]

shamare, is in recruit

Is general supposed to mean kernel or

[sturdy drift]

Ok since the rate up is so poor I think I'm worrying over nothing. I'll just pull for Ch'en I guess, not that I would even use her.

[fresh anvil]

[young glacier]

Just remember to not spend on that banner, ever

[fresh anvil]

get chen dawnstreak what bro doing

[young glacier]

Advanced trust prefarming

[sturdy drift]

Accidentally misclicked and spent a ten-roll headhunting permit. That hurts...

[fresh anvil]

bro is too hyped.

[brazen gulch]

surely at least you got something nice

[sturdy drift]

I didn't get a 6* anyways, so I was worrying over the kernel rate up over nothing. I got another copy of texas.

[brazen gulch]

can cope with time-to-profit

[sturdy drift]

What is the normal rotation schedule for the red certificates?

[sturdy drift]

Sorry, for the store, not the stages. It isn't stated anywhere I can see

[brazen gulch]

Most items don't reset or are infinitely purchasable, those that do have a yellow "<x> days" label at the bottom

[fresh anvil]

think they reset the certificates on 7th anni

[neat acorn]

[wraith sentinel]

The Royal Tokens rotate over a pretty long duration yeah, over a year.

[formal shadow]

there's no set rotation, it's whenever they want

[brazen gulch]

oh yeah heard about that, true, but it's more of an exception

[sturdy drift]

A year, I see. I wanted to burn some red certs on royal medic tokens but it looks like that won't ever come to the shop likely?

[young glacier]

Well royal tokens rotated on CN, so if you FOMO go grab them but it is painfully lot of AP-5

[fresh anvil]

not this year

[brazen gulch]

i thought only one reset happened before? can't read

[young glacier]

They rotate like once per what, 2 years? No srly game is 7 years old and shit rotated roughly 4 times

[fresh anvil]

maybe a few more years and youll get 1 potential on kal2

[sturdy drift]

"painfully lot of AP-5"

The thing is, I don't need to farm AP-5. I just have a stockpile already.

[fresh anvil]

how much

[sturdy drift]

3k

[faint lotus]

You always need to farm AP-5

[wraith sentinel]

The first set had a Royal Medic Token set, so it might be the first to rerun.

[sturdy drift]

And none of the operators look too enticing to me. Besides Ethan, I already have him

[wraith sentinel]

After the next set (for global) rotates out.

So probably another few years.

[brazen gulch]

8 640 sanity needed to buy out the current two royal token sets i'm crying

[fresh anvil]

[sturdy drift]

Potentials aren't worth much so you aren't missing out.

[ancient sonnet]

Mon3tr gets module now right? It any good?

[fresh anvil]

im crying im gonna get me some new royal tokens next battleplan

[wraith sentinel]

2019-2020: Medic / Sniper
2020-2022: Supporter / Vanguard
2022-2025: Defender / Caster
2025-Current: Specialist / Guard

CN: Sniper / Defender?

[fresh anvil]

yeah sniper defender

[sturdy drift]

Are you serious? That's how often they rotate?

[fresh anvil]

2-3 years for new stuff?

[wraith sentinel]

So diffirent rotation, ignore my previous comment about rerun possibility then.

[fresh anvil]

FAH

[sturdy drift]

Is the best way to get more dupes just to farm originium then? Since royal tokens seems like a bust. Unless there are more sources for royal tokens?

[wraith sentinel]

The best way? Don't.

IS2 has a set of Specialist Royal Tokens.

[fresh anvil]

battleplans are a source but idk if that shi is even reliable

[wraith sentinel]

Especially since we aren't getting any of the currency for it from other endgame.

[ancient sonnet]

Don't tokens appear also on CC?

[fresh anvil]

thats what the cc is yea

[wraith sentinel]

Crystallization Sanctuary, yeah.

Getting a 620 clear is enough for one set and some extra change I think?

[left tulip]

3 fucking years is nasty lmao

[fresh anvil]

wang exu2 fans eating good

[wraith sentinel]

Exusiai P3.

[sturdy drift]

Can someone that's good at math run a binomial distrubtion on the probability you get Wang in 50 pulls?

[left tulip]

Woah, takes a fucking lot to do 620 still right

[ancient sonnet]

There are calcs for that

[fresh anvil]

i cleared like ~500 something and the other stages got 3k

[left tulip]

Bro I need my acc geared up for next CC im never gonna make it in time

[fresh anvil]

wang is coming no worry

[ancient sonnet]

Just get wang

[left tulip]

Fair enough

[wraith sentinel]

https://samidare.io/arknights/gacha

[fresh anvil]

wang cc needs wang?

[sturdy drift]

Thank you

[young glacier]

Hell yes i got it on calculator faster than you linked site

[left tulip]

Actually how much do we know abt next CC already btw

[wraith sentinel]

Depends a bit but yeah, For the previous one someone did a Raidian / Tragodia / Yato (2*) clear which I sorta copied (had to use a whole team to replace Raidian though, pfft).

[fresh anvil]

nothing much but it will appear in june somewhere

[young glacier]

Wang event enemies or something which means i don't know shit

[sturdy drift]

Is 150 pulls recommended? That puts you in the 91st percentile

[wraith sentinel]

However many it takes.

[ancient sonnet]

150 pulls is the "if you don't get unlucky" one

[sturdy drift]

Ok, but Wang > Ch'en3 if I recall you told me that yesterday? My memory is awful

[fresh anvil]

ive seen the pram2/sash2 banner people didnt get the other sibling on their pulls

[wraith sentinel]

Going to three hundred while only getting one of the rate-ups is unlucky but it can happen, yeah.

[fresh anvil]

well obviously wang’s better than the first chen

im coping via shu/yu offrate

[wraith sentinel]

I have three hundred for Shu, so an offrate would be welcomed but not necessary.

[ancient sonnet]

Well, even if you get a 6* that's not a rate up you might still get unlucky... Like me with Hool

[left tulip]

With Kal and double Mh on the way??

[brazen gulch]

anyone used mostima in more casualish content? is mody still more applicable/useful even when you have stuff like tragodia or ascalon for stalling or should i focus on modx first, seeing as it looks like a huge boost to other casters as well as her own cycling?

[wraith sentinel]

I have five/six months for them, and still a lot of uncleared content.

[left tulip]

Fair enough ig personally I would never dare I’m not sparking Lapp cuz of MH

[fresh anvil]

skipping 7th anni the collab takes priority

[wraith sentinel]

Closure is top priority.

But I should have at least an additional two hundred pulls by then.

[young glacier]

Titi is next (after reruns and other time wasting crap), the fuck

[fresh anvil]

i think cn moved some more units into kernel

[left tulip]

Also btw, letting alone the usual pots don’t matter discourse, how good is pot4 (I think it’s 4?) wang? If it’s pretty impactful and like contender for most busted unit in the game, are they most impactful pots rn

[young glacier]

I am too lazy to find third color to showcase where is CN cutoff on Kernel

[fresh anvil]

nvm i see it, top right side

[young glacier]

that's still global server stuff, Dorothy is in kernel on CN i think but i can't navigate this stupid PRTS to just show me their offbanner pools

[wraith sentinel]

P5 is most impactful because it allows him to be buffed by Gravel.
Epic +8% Defense.

[left tulip]

[young glacier]

Rat gaming

also wasn't second discount on DP be P6

[wraith sentinel]

Wait, yeah, P6. Oops.

Main reason why you have to max pot Wang.

[fresh anvil]

all operators are pot 1 cause you own them?

pot 0 means you dont own them?

[left tulip]

Yes

[young glacier]

in this game potential counts from 1, from other game from same dev for some reason it counts from 0

[left tulip]

Oh funny

[young glacier]

If HG make third game i will expect index to start from -1 or 2 because why not

[fresh anvil]

no way, haimao is busy

[left tulip]

May I ask more on this btw

[wraith sentinel]

-# Ex Astris and Popucom erasure.
-# (I haven't played either.)

[sick loom]

pallas, because you seemd to got a likin to her

[brazen gulch]

bellone event puts a bunch of ops into kernel (not even recruitment) yeah :(

[fresh anvil]

i mean… 30 res ignore and 36% increased damage?

[brazen gulch]

a cruel joke (from my perspective) considering it's right before 7th anni banner where the pulls are gonna drop

()

[left tulip]

Fuck greyalt too

[wraith sentinel]

I want Fiametta...

[fresh anvil]

grey alt noo

[young glacier]

unfuck greyalt, fuck grey og

[fresh anvil]

base

[brazen gulch]

i will murd- kiss you on your forehead for what you just said

[urban sleet]

Tfw greyallt too along with fja

[young glacier]

O hey Windflit is dead

QUERCUS, NO

[urban sleet]

Bro just noticed

[fresh anvil]

blud got happy for one second and then saw quercus

[lament loom]

Unreal

[severe crypt]

Damn imagine not having her pot6

[brazen gulch]

i'd be happy with literally any of those, except maybe indifferent towards windflit gg hibiscus rockrock

[young glacier]

Dark day for feline kind

[left tulip]

i didnt mean it that way im just unhapppy hes leaving

[smoky urchin]

Who should I focus on? Rn as in like skill to gain will make an operator more op is something

[urban sleet]

How am I supposed to fsrm more gold certs out of my max pot rockrock and blacknight noe

[brazen gulch]

ohhh that way

[fresh anvil]

only exu

[left tulip]

the sneaky exu in the bottom corner

[smoky urchin]

I feel attacked

[fresh anvil]

you have six star voucher?

[smoky urchin]

Uhh, lemme check, I'm just day 4 player

[fresh anvil]

pick silverash

[ancient sonnet]

You should have a voucher to get SA with

[wraith sentinel]

-# (I have three of the 6*s and five of the 5*s, but design-wise I kinda just want Fiametta and Blacknight. I didn't realize they would be moving into Kernel so quickly when they were up to cert.)

[young glacier]

wasn't 6* voucher day 7

[pale tapir]

rough start lol
but yea go grab your silverash when that voucher rolls around
tequila e1 lv30 sl7 and lappy lv30 sl7 are cheap damage
krooster e1 lv30 sl7 as well
silence e1 to get access to s2 later
cuora is a solid def brick tank, e1 sl7 is fine too

[urban sleet]

And raise skybox when yoj get him from nasti event

[severe crypt]

You could consider rerolling if you want to

[fresh anvil]

you should totally level up spot

[smoky urchin]

Nah but I figured out I got an instant elite 2 for 5*

[pale tapir]

also where's your specter

[young glacier]

hitting wall over tragodia from offbanner?

[smoky urchin]

Seems so, so I'll have to wait

[fresh anvil]

titi event gives out centurion yes

[severe crypt]

Leizi is still up no?

[fresh anvil]

[young glacier]

Some centurion doomguy, is he cool?

[fresh anvil]

idk ive been doing my own thing in #stronghold-hall

[smoky urchin]

Idk, I was told to get lappland

[fresh anvil]

💔

[opaque remnant]

Meh, either works

[wraith sentinel]

At least you won't struggle on that one spider stage.

[urban sleet]

Welp lappland is not the worst pick

[fresh anvil]

and refraction me thinks

[brazen gulch]

-# same, fia eben and lee for me with all 5*s but windflit. might genuinely drop 180 yellow certs on horn or dorothy if nothing interesting gets announced in the upcoming 6 months from whenever they appear in the shop

[fresh anvil]

and the drones that reduce aspd

[urban sleet]

Dorothy js fun can vouch

[young glacier]

Activate meta awareness lvl 120 and Texas alter s1

[opaque remnant]

That seems… a bit much

[smoky urchin]

Uhh, how come I feel like every choice I've made this far was wrong

[fresh anvil]

did you use singles on the beginner banner

[wraith sentinel]

It's fine, don't worry too much about it.

[ancient sonnet]

You could've made worse choices tbh

[opaque remnant]

You aren’t going to ruin your progression in the long run, just make sure to listen

[wraith sentinel]

You can get by fine even if you don't use any of the vouchers.

[pale tapir]

I started with worse on day 1 it is what it is

[urban sleet]

Yout picks werent the best thats all, they are by no means bad

[smoky urchin]

Nah, I'm still stuck on chapter 2, was doing other stuff and exploring all that's available

[severe crypt]

We’ve seen worse accounts nw

[smoky urchin]

Elite 1 for lappland and side characters from events for cinema rolls

[opaque remnant]

Wasn’t there some person with less than 10k LMD produced in base each day

[fresh anvil]

cool! theyve seen worse ones than yours so it aint that bad

[wraith sentinel]

Just remember not to spend Originite Prime on Sanity or Furniture. Only on the Pro Enhancement Packs, pulls and outfits (if you like them).

[urban sleet]

Thats still 10k more than some ppl we hqve seen here

[smoky urchin]

Which would have been the best, if I may ask?

[young glacier]

Don't worry about it, there are people who had much worse starts without game feeding us insta e2, multiple vouchers etc to boost progression

[severe crypt]

A few
More than one 🥹

[fresh anvil]

i picked exu on voucher

[opaque remnant]

As always, provided in roadless Camelot

[wraith sentinel]

(In other words, check the linked document in the pins.)

[fresh anvil]

where is that gif

[urban sleet]

Specter instead of lappland

I am assuming you just went with the flow for beginner banner but in case tou were rerolling silverash is the best pick (can choose again on day7 voucher)

[wraith sentinel]

Rerolling is cringe anyhow.

[opaque remnant]

In case you reroll wouldn’t it be better to ain’t for lazy in the standard

[smoky urchin]

Well, I did, but it's weird and I asked since the doc said three options of lappland Specter and uhh guy

[fresh anvil]

some guy went over 50 rerolls

[urban sleet]

I am oretty sure the doc also gave details about the three

[wraith sentinel]

-# I got Gnosis from the Lappland banner and was happy with it.

[young glacier]

Wasn't there two 5* vouchers or i am coping 5* selector from summer

[smoky urchin]

Yeah, just uhh, info I couldn't comprehend as someone who hasn't spent an hour on the game even

[pale tapir]

eh whatever don't give em sweat about it
lappy is convenient and will be fine for newbie

[opaque remnant]

I’m pretty sure there was a person here who rerolled 65 times without getting a single leizi and got qiubai offrate three times

[ancient sonnet]

7 day

[fresh anvil]

how

[opaque remnant]

Shit luck

[pale tapir]

wrong middle aged chinese guard lady with a vignette event 💢

[urban sleet]

Tldr ppl glaze lappland for her 'silence' niche, but overall its pretty irrelevant in the game and you can play normally to get around it

[young glacier]

that's 6* vouncher or there is separated 5* voucher on 7 day?

[ancient sonnet]

5 day for top, 7 day for 5*

[opaque remnant]

One of them is louder than the other

[young glacier]

Silence is nice when game allows you to shut down some stupid enemy gimmick
Only to find out next stupid enemy gimmick guy is not silenceable (Srly why exploding TW guy isn't?)

[smoky urchin]

Oh, I can get Specter someday, and tomorrow silverash

[fresh anvil]

live reaction to a death in chunfen or something

[brazen gulch]

every time i've seen people "glaze" it it was just someone saying it's handy if you have it and then someone going "NO it's USELESS because you can PLAY WITHOUT IT" tbh

and that derailing into absolute hell

[fresh anvil]

yippe!

[urban sleet]

Why dows that sound like #arknights

[fresh anvil]

because we are in arknights official discord

[brazen gulch]

the two times i strongly recall were here, one with me and one with another person

[smoky urchin]

Btw which operator should I use a instant E2 on?

[fresh anvil]

likely between tequila specter lappland

[opaque remnant]

Follow the guide, it’s better to pick ptilo

Pretty sure I already stated about roadless Camelot

[pale tapir]

yeah between specter and ptilo the owl (latter) is more likely to still be used once you have someone better

[young glacier]

I started game in 2022 with Silence Ptilo as my healthcare plan

[fresh anvil]

ptilosis more versatile

[smoky urchin]

I'm scared of making decisions on my own at this rate because of such games

[pale tapir]

lol you can pick whatever the hell you want tbh
but certain operators are recommended because they'll make your life a hell of a lot easier

[ancient sonnet]

If you're not sure just follow the guide for now

[fresh anvil]

we are not holding you at gunpoint

[smoky urchin]

You sure?

[pale tapir]

[young glacier]

Don't worry Ambriel S2 shoots 100 def barricade from chapter 8 right now

[fresh anvil]

please do stronghold protocol rewards before the event leaves

[ancient sonnet]

You won't brick your game with those picks, you might get stalled at worst till the next limited banner

Then you get Wang and you're set anyway

[smoky urchin]

Roger!!

[young glacier]

Or don't get wang but amass some other fun operators via offbanners

[pale tapir]

SPA is nice because you don't need any actual roster to play and win
you just FAFO and get rewards

[fresh anvil]

you need fundamentoz

[fresh anvil]

check out #stronghold-hall for tips

[ancient sonnet]

After stronghall can clear RA shop

[smoky urchin]

I wanna get hoshiguma the breacher and peaks, clad in frost

[pale tapir]

hoshi alt and who

[fresh anvil]

you can borrow

[brazen gulch]

that's pram2's s2 name

[pale tapir]

[smoky urchin]

But they're so awesome and I can't do supplies with them to ace 3 cubes

[pale tapir]

somehow worse than people calling surtr skill 1

[quick jolt]

i mean, if yall are gonna say specter is the better choice, why even have lappland as an option on the spreadsheet?

[smoky urchin]

Like the frost lady freezes 50% of the map

[fresh anvil]

have you touched annihilation

[pale tapir]

specter is the better choice it's just that lappland isn't bad so she's still mentioned
lappland was the old rec back in the day

[brazen gulch]

-# laevatain is a coooool name..

[smoky urchin]

I did, I gave up just as quick

[young glacier]

You just missed her banner but you can offbanner her in future or friend support someones else when needed

[ancient sonnet]

At least do the weekly cap - always, can wait right untill the reset for better results

[fresh anvil]

borrow pram alter and get dp generation in your team

[pale tapir]

you can borrow pramerita and chuck all your ops on left side of undercurrent nest and probably clear just fine

[quick jolt]

tbh i disagree but also think that it should only tell newbies to get what most ppl think is the best

[fresh anvil]

i know people hate the mode and yes i too hate it when i have to do a new one even though im stacked

[smoky urchin]

Ohh, idk how she looks, but what icon? + That's awesome to know if she can bypass limited dp

[brazen gulch]

tequila propaganda will never die down

[fresh anvil]

caster

[ancient sonnet]

This girl

[pale tapir]

pramerita has nothing to do with dp other than costing you dp to deploy lmao
she's a phalanx caster
for current rotating annihilation you just put her on the bottom somewhere with s2

[fresh anvil]

use her skill 2

[smoky urchin]

Btw, I gave up cause I had nothing still, I went to instead waste my sanity to become stronger and got tequila, and Kroos, and mi lady lappland to e1

[plain hemlock]

If tragodia's cat hits a thorny chest in IS, does it hurt him?

[formal shadow]

pram solos the first 2 annis :ya:

[smoky urchin]

I can only do annihilation on ursus if that's it, and it has two entrances opposite of eachother

[ancient sonnet]

(if you force close the game while in anni you don't lose sanity so you can keep retrying)

[fresh anvil]

is that intended or like

[glass mural]

But what about personal sanity.

[quick jolt]

prob not but its been a thing forever

[young glacier]

Start with chernobog, you can cheese top right part with skill level 4 Shaw because top row is holes for instakilling (Need medic/blocker for heavy enemies and few molotov guys). Annihilation resets weekly so you have time to monday, worst case scenario friend support pram2 or something 5 times

[formal shadow]

pram can mostly solo the 3rd anni as well but needs some help against the drones I believe

[plain hemlock]

Put her where she can hit both lanes and use a defender to block enemies on her range

[pale tapir]

also the reason we recommend you do annihilation weekly and get to the 1800 max cap is because annihilation is 60% of your weekly income

[quick jolt]

well maybe its intended because of game crashes

[fresh anvil]

and you get more rewards for clearing annihilation stages for the first time

[smoky urchin]

I mean, if I go on to gears icon and leave it also refunds me the sanity I thought it no?

[quick jolt]

itll consume sanity based on how many enemies you beat

[brazen gulch]

-# tell that gpg whose crashes ruinied multiple of my IS runs :<

[young glacier]

game don't keep constant data sending so it literally don't know kill count if you force quit

[ancient sonnet]

No, that's just the refund for how much you completed. You can click the refund rules to get a detailed breakdown

[quick jolt]

it works differently from normal stages

[fresh anvil]

manually leave and force it to crash

[smoky urchin]

Roger! I'll return once I rest out Anni rn

[young glacier]

Well with full refund on defeat in normal stages force quit works same in wrong way of looking on that

[smoky urchin]

It doesn't seem the same but is this right?

[ancient sonnet]

Yes, that's her

[young glacier]

Not promoted / second promotion art

also you can encounter operators with skins but she is just released so not the case

[fresh anvil]

this her

[young glacier]

Also i recommend adding people to friend list because at certain level game does big brain move and offer only randoms with level around yours which usually don't own much

[rapid mason]

It's her e2 art, a lot of characters have alternative art when you upgrade them to e2

[fresh anvil]

some are even animated

[young glacier]

"a lot" - literally everyone (who has e2)

[fresh anvil]

one stars to three star units coping right now

[smoky urchin]

Uhh, I can only pray

[fresh anvil]

put down your fang

[wraith sentinel]

Place Fang for DP generation, yeah.

[fresh anvil]

and then place silence me thinks

[ancient sonnet]

Place Fang and when you have enough DP silence to keep the other two alive

[pale tapir]

dp does not auto generate on annihilation stages so if you don't put down someone who can gen you will not be able to deploy any other operators once you run out

[formal shadow]

[fresh anvil]

dp gen first always for annihilation

[formal shadow]

should do that as a "learn how anni works" though pram should just solo the entire stage if she's e2 s2m3 mod3

[smoky urchin]

Oh damn, I didn't know she is able to do that, wellllll, more should I say does she refen do on kill? Or by existing

[ancient sonnet]

Depends on the Vanguard. Fang does it passively

[formal shadow]

by skill

[fresh anvil]

existing

theres different kinds of vanguards

your other vanguard vigna gives you dp on kill

[formal shadow]

please don't make this more confusing. She gives dp through her skill (which activates automatically)

[smoky urchin]

Ngl, I thought Anni is about being compact and winning with like 2 units on field

[ancient sonnet]

You really, really, REALLY want to read skill descriptions

[formal shadow]

I mean you can but the method is to use someone who generates DP and place your team out eventually

[fresh anvil]

we advise people to read more despite this well.. being en

[young glacier]

I know he won't deploy 9 DP Vigna on 8 DP but still which "she"

[fresh anvil]

the one with blue hair and glasses

[ancient sonnet]

With Pram up that Vigna isn't generating any dp imho

[formal shadow]

inb4 they don't have fang skin (though you can see it there)

[young glacier]

i seen that skin so much i forgot how og look

[fresh anvil]

no glasses

[fresh anvil]

blue hair gaming

[formal shadow]

it's really shocking every time I roll her in recruit

[ancient sonnet]

Myrtle wasn't free in some starter pack btw?

[formal shadow]

a $0.99 starter pack

[fresh anvil]

1 dollar

[young glacier]

How much was purestream before she become recruit deal btw?

[formal shadow]

uh I want to say $4?

nevermind it was also a $0.99 pack

[fresh anvil]

4 dollars to get a 4 star operator 💔

[formal shadow]

I'm still mad I don't have cliffheart skin :realmad:

[smoky urchin]

Well... I'm... 100% dyslexic

All I know is to go plus ultra

[fresh anvil]

my condolences

[ancient sonnet]

I see a Wisadel enjoyer

[fresh anvil]

press one button and instantly destroy map

[smoky urchin]

I think Tallulah does that for fun

[fresh anvil]

if you love wisadel you might hate wang

[grizzled galleon]

sounds like a skill issue

[fresh anvil]

his gameplay is dragging finger

[smoky urchin]

I forgot such options existed yk

[grizzled galleon]

damn i have been clipped

[fresh anvil]

can you deploy your silence

[grizzled galleon]

my careers over

[ancient sonnet]

Deploy Silence to not let Pram die by accident

[smoky urchin]

I'm fraid of her

[fresh anvil]

[grizzled galleon]

did you got get silverash alter?

[lament loom]

What if let Pra2 die then she dies again

[fresh anvil]

this is borrowed pram2

[smoky urchin]

I haven't, tomorrow I will!!!!!

[ancient sonnet]

It's a 4 day acc

[grizzled galleon]

oh borrowed

[ancient sonnet]

You will get Silverash, not Silverash alter - two different ops

[smoky urchin]

Dw, I've got worse digital fingerprint atp

[fresh anvil]

user will remember that.

silverash alter is a different guy despite the same name

[smoky urchin]

forgive me my idiocity

[frosty flame]

Lorewise?

[fresh anvil]

idk some sort of #ak-lore

[ancient sonnet]

I mean, on a 4 day acc there was no way you'd knew. SA alter is a vanguard that's pretty broken, but you missed his limited banner by a month

[lost gate]

I notice that Vigilio is in storyline RL Ark. does this mean it’s occasionally replayable?

[grizzled galleon]

just like i missed hoshi alter banner ;-;
atleast i was there for last week of sakiko

[undone portal]

no, it just means its important reading for main story

[nimble fractal]

is it worth pulling in the kernel banner? i got some tickets

[ancient sonnet]

Not occasionally, you can replay the records if you can unlock it

[smoky urchin]

Dang, let me guess, since it's limited, I'm doomed to see it only in dreams?

[severe crypt]

The stages can’t be replayed tho obv

[frosty flame]

Only use the kernel only tickets on kernel banner, and preferably on better ones not just any

[fresh anvil]

ask in a few more years when you have more kernel headhunting pulls

[ancient sonnet]

He will be available on celebration limited banners as an off rate... You can spark him by doing 300 pulls but he's not really worth that much

[lost gate]

But i wish the stages were replayable. I think it’s vi-5 that has like all the year 1-3 bosses

[severe crypt]

…starting next year for sashalt at least

[fresh anvil]

so i guess we will wait and see what new mh collab is like

[worldly fern]

who should I e2 next, zuo, mon3tr or silverash?

[fresh anvil]

im not sure about pulling on 7th anni i need to see them collabs

[smoky urchin]

Hmm, hmm.... Fuuhhhh, though is there any upcoming "earth shattering that makes even the cosmos tremble in the vast endless pitch darkness" operator?

[severe crypt]

Wang in about 2 months

[ancient sonnet]

Mon3tr for true damage potential imho

[astral thorn]

Can anyone tell me how to get crownslayer y module?

[ancient sonnet]

Wang

[astral thorn]

I beat 4 8 challenge mode and I thought i used smokescreen twice

[fresh anvil]

challenge mode..?

[smoky urchin]

What does wang do or rather I say, what class is she/he

[severe crypt]

Mod missions don’t work on challenge mode

[quick jolt]

did the mission tell you to do challenge mode? because if not, you had to do normal mode

[fresh anvil]

i dont think challenge mode is necessary for specific stages

[severe crypt]

He’s a trap master that just nukes everything pretty much

[balmy panther]

hes a trapmaster
deploys giga arts nukes with big range

[pale tapir]

you drop his balls all over the stage and things die

[ancient sonnet]

He deletes stuff

[astral thorn]

The mode where you 4 star a stage and only have 1 life pont

[smoky urchin]

Uhh, unique!

[fresh anvil]

…i think you may have wasted your sanity

[astral thorn]

Sorry my point is I beat the stage and I thought I used the ability twice

[quick jolt]

you have to do it on normal mode

[severe crypt]

Challenge mode doesn’t count for mod missions

[astral thorn]

Seriously lol

[fresh anvil]

yes you beat it on challenge mode not the regular mode

[smoky urchin]

How much orundum do I have to save to guarantee Wang? Like I'm saving up 2 months then but in 'fraid I won't get Wang knowing my luck

[balmy panther]

180K

[astral thorn]

Wtf that's ridiculous

[fresh anvil]

you went ahead of yourself, we know thats some bullcrap

[quick jolt]

hard pity is technically 300 pulls but the chance of needing that many is insanely low

[pale tapir]

just save up as much as you can you'll be fine since you're new (lots of uncleared stages)
don't pull on rando banners in between
and don't use on sanity either

[fresh anvil]

are there any modules that even make you do challenge stages?

[smoky urchin]

Mhm mhm... 300 pulls... Yeah well, knowing myself that's my minimum

[frosty flame]

Nah

[fresh anvil]

how about tragodia rerun is that worth it

[severe crypt]

If you don’t have trag yeah

[frosty flame]

The rates are alot higher than other gachas

[quick jolt]

needing 300 pulls for a limited is like.. a 3% chance?

[frosty flame]

Do we know how many standard banners are between current and trag rerun?

[astral thorn]

For crownslayer can I deploy trigger skill d
Redeploy and trigger again for it to count?

[balmy panther]

trangodia isn't before Wang

[frosty flame]

Oh

[ancient sonnet]

You'd have to lose every 50/50. That's really underground tier luck

[astral thorn]

Thx

[frosty flame]

Well its not quite a 5050 to get wang, 35%

[pale tapir]

35/35/30 yea

[fresh anvil]

i see some people in #salt-mines

[frosty flame]

But chenalt seems to be p good so thats also worth looking forward to

[ancient sonnet]

I mean it can happen but well

[quick jolt]

i mean obv people who get shit luck will post their shit luck, they're a handful out of thousands

[smoky urchin]

Maybe that's better than I hoped for, but still, if there's 1% chance to lose and 99% to win, I'd lose somehow, from experience

[fresh anvil]

expect the unexpected?

[frosty flame]

Think of it as

[quick jolt]

shes very good yeah

[ancient sonnet]

With 150 pulls you have ~60% chance to get both rate ups

[frosty flame]

Gambling

[smoky urchin]

We love gambling

[quick jolt]

gambling in my gambling game?

[frosty flame]

[smoky urchin]

That's why I'm in the streets

Because of gambling!
O' the mighty lord of gamble

[fresh anvil]

you know that reminds me of the time i lost my 50/50s on two back to back banners

[golden cedar]

I am saving up 300 pulls for Wang. Would Shu be available for purchase in the token shop? I want to get both Wang and Shu.

[fresh anvil]

available but not recommended

[ancient sonnet]

Yeah, you can spark Shu

[frosty flame]

Hopin they offrate, fr

[ancient sonnet]

Hoping for offrate, getting Vina or the like...

[fresh anvil]

leizi

[frosty flame]

Leizi would p ballin tho

[ancient sonnet]

Leizi ALT would

[fresh anvil]

yan for a yan banner? sign me the fuck up

[smoky urchin]

Why can't I skip a level, I'm about to level up and refill all my sanity but I don't wanna since I wish to sleepppp

[quick jolt]

you can just auto a supply stage or smth

[frosty flame]

Isnt reg leizi kernel, how would they offrate that

[fresh anvil]

auto 1-7

[quick jolt]

or 1-7

[ancient sonnet]

Never enough rocks

[fresh anvil]

leizi alt.

[proven kelp]

Just don't sleep

[smoky urchin]

What's the rocks about?

[fresh anvil]

operators like rocks

[frosty flame]

Yeah, which is ballin

[ancient sonnet]

Good effi stage, and you'll need them anyway

[smoky urchin]

I wish, I've walked already like 14 km today and feel so dooodooish

[fresh anvil]

plus it has good drop rate

[smoky urchin]

Turns out... We're rocking!

[fresh anvil]

and very easy to clear

[steel sundial]

do we know what the next banner is

[ancient sonnet]

Nasti

[steel sundial]

ok I don't know who that is

[hidden nacelle]

#game-news

[steel sundial]

should I roll for Magallan or save for Natsi

[raven marten]

There are showcases of them on CN content if you are interested looking into them

[fresh anvil]

neither, save for wang banner limited

[hidden nacelle]

neither

[steel sundial]

thanks

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro want to play hard mode by rerolling mag

[ancient sonnet]

Like, don't roll for kernel... unless dumping kernel tokens

[steel sundial]

and when is that

[fresh anvil]

few more months

[obtuse obsidian]

Is leizi banner still up?

[steel sundial]

sorry i'm kinda new

[ancient sonnet]

Still up, bad odds

[obtuse obsidian]

Reroll leizi then

[smoky urchin]

What's the perfect moment to kernel spam summon

[steel sundial]

I can't wait that long

[raven marten]

Should be around on July

[steel sundial]

Is she that good that her potential is worth unlocking?

[fresh anvil]

why

[obtuse obsidian]

He want to reroll and leizi is good reroll

[smoky urchin]

Nvm, it was a operator of your choice If I remember

[quick jolt]

only the free blue pulls

when the 2 rateups arent two of the worst 6stars in the game like rn lmfao

[steel sundial]

idk

[raven marten]

if you save, you will have a higher chance of getting the 300 pity + spark if you plan to spark someone

[obtuse obsidian]

You just need first copy in arknight

If you already got leizi just dont waste pulls rn and save up

[steel sundial]

spark?

[ancient sonnet]

When the op you want is up rate, but you don't want to use non-kernel currency for kernel rolling cause it's just not efficient

[smoky urchin]

Is auto redeploy possible to do in 10x speed?

[proven kelp]

When the rate up aren't shit

[steel sundial]

So i should still save for this Wang?

[obtuse obsidian]

Yes

[raven marten]

Spark is like after pulling x amount of time, you can spark an operator from last time for that banner like nian, since she is a limited

[ancient sonnet]

Afaik no, but you can do 6x in one go

[proven kelp]

I mean, you can't even do x3 speed

[fresh anvil]

is 6 times on one stage and 2x speed the same as this

[steel sundial]

I still don't get it

[raven marten]

Afaik, you cannot spark the previous limited, you would need to wait another half a year

[smoky urchin]

I'm cryn, because I need x 20 to guarantee sleep

[ancient sonnet]

Camp the red box

[frosty flame]

No surtr anymore?

[raven marten]

Spark are obtained through pulling on limited banner which you can exchange for previous limited characters

[smoky urchin]

See I didn't want that extra 93 sanity

[steel sundial]

don't sleep

[fresh anvil]

just do it bro itll take like 10 mins at most

[obtuse obsidian]

Let your cat farm ak for you

[proven kelp]

Spark is the term used to refer to buying an operator

Every pull done in a Limited banner will give you 1 currency

You can use these currency to buy the Rate Up operators of the banner, which Includes the Limited Operators of that type

[smoky urchin]

I did the Anni for 1h

[steel sundial]

I see

[nocturne laurel]

Wouldn have survived before sweep

[proven kelp]

Never was

[steel sundial]

so is Leizei a limited?

[obtuse obsidian]

We dont speak of old times qol

[proven kelp]

No

[smoky urchin]

Woahh, that's sick, so what's the drop rate?

[steel sundial]

ok so i can't really get these sparks right now?

[raven marten]

There is no drop rate for spark

[fresh anvil]

left ear: annihilation 1 hour
right ear: 1-7 2x speed clearing 6 times auto deploy

[proven kelp]

Yes, it's exclusive mechanics of a Limited Banner

[ancient sonnet]

You'll need to save for them and skip banners

[steel sundial]

cube

[frosty flame]

Wasnt surtr even meta at one point

[steel sundial]

ok so I should skip until the next limited banner?

[proven kelp]

When she was released

[fresh anvil]

yes

[pale tapir]

surtr was busted when she was new back like 5 years ago

[steel sundial]

and that is Wang..? Or someone else?

[smoky urchin]

My eyes says I'm ... I'm... Seeing things slowly as it's 1 am

[obtuse obsidian]

Surtr was The wisadel of her era

That era long ended

[ancient sonnet]

You kinda want Wang if your roster isn't stacked

[frosty flame]

Then she did indeed "be"

[fresh anvil]

wang

[steel sundial]

i can show you my roster, can you tell me if it's good?

[rapid mason]

@steel sundial @smoky urchin I think it would be helpful to you to watch a video about different types of banners. Its really easy once you get it

[proven kelp]

No
The topic was pulling for Surtr in Kernel

That was never worth it

[fresh anvil]

ive been there multiple times

[ancient sonnet]

You can link your krooster. People will be able to tell you if it's good or not

[raven marten]

You get it through pulling, if you are talking about off rate pulls like exusai alter, Wis alter and Lappland alter on Kal’tsit alter banner, it is 2,34% and the featured ones are 35%

[steel sundial]

so far i know that there are kernel and normal and limited banners

[proven kelp]

No shot it's 30% for off rate limited

[steel sundial]

krooster?

[ancient sonnet]

https://www.krooster.com

[fresh anvil]

site that links your arknights account and shows us your account

[steel sundial]

ok

[median fable]

where did you get this number mate

[frosty flame]

30% for any offrate

[fresh anvil]

[frosty flame]

And the offrate limiteds just have higher weight than standard

[rapid mason]

you are right. There is also different types of standart banners. Limited are 4 times a year on "selebrations"

[frosty flame]

Than individual standard units mind you

[ancient sonnet]

It's not cause it would mean that with 2x 35% limited and 30% offrate limited you wouldn't get any other

[steel sundial]

ok

[fresh anvil]

dont you dare forget the collab bannerz

[nocturne laurel]

Add collab limited banners on top, which give you a free copy at 120 and that's about it

[smoky urchin]

I'm afraid they'll steal my credit card

[rapid mason]

oh. completelly forgot them. but you can count them as limited limided

[fresh anvil]

we use it all the time

[obtuse obsidian]

Collabs are shill in comparsion of other banners

[smoky urchin]

[fresh anvil]

nothing stolen

[proven kelp]

Then what you meant when

Off rate pulls like exusai alter. Wis alter, lappland alter on the Kalsit alter banner. The % is 30

Because this implies otherwise

[smoky urchin]

My sanity has

[median fable]

worst case scenario is you not doing it and we laugh at you because you weren't able to

[fresh anvil]

makes our eyes easier when looking at accounts and the areas in which they need to improve

[fresh anvil]

ive probably lost like 10 days worth of sanity altogether

[smoky urchin]

[ancient sonnet]

Wasn't me really. It's just that you have 35% for each rate up and 30% for everything else with some having x5

[frosty flame]

I wish krooster would just update itself

[median fable]

honestly unless people send their krooster I'd just skip the 12 ss because I'm not getting paid for this shit

[raven marten]

I meant to say for off rate limited, my bad

[obtuse obsidian]

I only check The first ss if its not arranged by rarity i go out

[smoky urchin]

I JUST FKIN LVLD UP AGAIN AND GOT SANITY while irl I'm losing it

[median fable]

once you do it one time you just need to click one button to do it

[proven kelp]

Oh I didn't even notice it's not you lol
Kinda rare for people to defend others

[fresh anvil]

spend more

[frosty flame]

Idk, I think I had to resubmit the account data last time

[median fable]

it still doesn't add up since 30% is for any off-rate, not only limited off-rates

[fresh anvil]

no worry just spend more on rock and head to sleep

[wraith sentinel]

Did you click 'save credentials'?

[median fable]

use this

[frosty flame]

I cant rember

[proven kelp]

Still no cuz 30% is still big even for off rate limited

[obtuse obsidian]

Off rate is 30% in general

Limiteds only take a small part of that and Stainless take The other 90% of off rates

[fresh anvil]

stainless taking strays

[proven kelp]

Why stainless, and not Lee

[fresh anvil]

getting fiametta

[obtuse obsidian]

I dont remember The standard pool

[steel sundial]

this is taking a while to set up

[obtuse obsidian]

Was worried i pick a kernal by mistake :clueless:

[proven kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901726884298100777/1506120801190154300/image.png?ex=6a0f160d&is=6a0dc48d&hm=8e6067f0a3bd57353f9bbf34e7acda470d96a39b90d5deaf132191d0b80e8273&

[steel sundial]

can someone just tell me rq

[glossy schooner]

https://www.krooster.com/u/real-beige-aak-33l4
here’s my Krooster if you want an example of a Krooster account

[median fable]

I just noticed I can't offrate Fartooth anymore and I need to buy her from shop if I want to complete my base combo

[shadow bay]

half ass surtr and zuole

[fresh anvil]

[obtuse obsidian]

You can get her from free blue ticket

[proven kelp]

Ril
Just high roll her

[glossy schooner]

Working on Zuo Le and I stopped using Surtr, anymore at least

[frosty flame]

What

[smoky urchin]

I'm in disbelief that ix sent figure how to connect my Arknights to kooster,

[smoky urchin]

I've done it! I'm freeeeee

[proven kelp]

Raise that Surfer

[obtuse obsidian]

Get free kernal pull somewhere

Pull on a kernal banner using it

Get fartooth

Not hard

[fresh anvil]

go sleep

[frosty flame]

There another selector besides the other one with surtr mudrock?

[proven kelp]

Mudrock?
Was there a Selector with Mudrock in it?

[frosty flame]

Oh :P very funny

[steel sundial]

is she good

[obtuse obsidian]

Check /baseskills in #bot-spam and raise The ops There if you have not

[fresh anvil]

get 10 limited pull somewhere

pull on the last day

get said limited

not hard

[proven kelp]

Yes

[glossy schooner]

It’s just
Bind account in arknights main menu
Enter email in Krooster
Put code in that you get emailed
Press save credentials
Press log in
Just five steps to make your Krooster

[ancient sonnet]

You have Leizi alt so you're fine

[steel sundial]

alt?

[obtuse obsidian]

You guys dont do that already?

[raven marten]

Alter

[median fable]

alt == alter == alternate == 2

[proven kelp]

Operators with "The" on their name

[ancient sonnet]

Leizi has 2 versions, default and alter, you have the alter which is goated

[median fable]

og operator got a new version, an alter version
they are distinct ops and the only thing they share is the trust value

[frosty flame]

They should make it so they share skins fr

[steel sundial]

oh ok

[steel sundial]

ohhh I thought it was just a really cool title that was part of her name

[frosty flame]

Money to be printed stg

[median fable]

they should give me a Fartooth copy for my dedication, unfortunately not everyone gets what they want

[proven kelp]

Clearly not dedicated enough
Pull more to show your sincerity

[obtuse obsidian]

If you did not use her to kill lucian back in The days you dont deserve to get one for base

[hidden nacelle]

fae roadless camelot doesnt have enough yuri can you change that

[median fable]

I will from now on

[hidden nacelle]

i used her for the physical dodge ignore for the nethersea brand dodgers

[obtuse obsidian]

Good enough

[proven kelp]

Sadly it needs to look somewhat professional to make people listen to it 🥹

That's why I make up by filling my other works with Yuri

[fresh anvil]

your wish will be granted by 10th anni

[frosty flame]

That a baseball team or smthn

[proven kelp]

The world isn't ready yet for Yuri

[ancient sonnet]

She's a totally diffrent class here. And is really strong on-skill so you should be fine to save until the Wang banner

[steel sundial]

ok then

[fresh anvil]

the

[steel sundial]

i'll take your word for it

wait I should have her set on the 3rd skill right?

[obtuse obsidian]

Chen have 3 version for example
You have chen1
Chen2 is limited snipee
Chen 3 is with wang and actually really strong too

[proven kelp]

Chen Alter Alter

[ancient sonnet]

Both s2 and s3 are good

[obtuse obsidian]

Use s2 for leizi

S3 and s1 have their moments but s2 is The general skill

[steel sundial]

ok

is skill 3 bad because of the long interval?

[proven kelp]

It's not it's bad, but each skill has it's own uses

[ancient sonnet]

It's different not bad

[steel sundial]

ok

[obtuse obsidian]

All her skills are good but have different moments

S3 need tight places so the stuff bounce and do more

[steel sundial]

well, sorry, I didn't really mean bad, the wording I should've used was "held back"

[wraith sentinel]

S3 is a bit terrain dependent if you want to maximise it. Also the spawned currents can't hit aerial enemies.

[steel sundial]

I've been placing her in open area so she could hit more enemies

[wraith sentinel]

I'm a big fan of S1, note that it deals triple damage on her own tile due to each 'wave' originating from it.

[obtuse obsidian]

Will great news s2 love open areas