help

[raven ermine]

One e2 every 10 day is not sustainable with entry level base

[abstract blade]

I'm saving the pillars for when there's 2 statues at once later

[quick jolt]

personally im pretty much always working on a 6star, i have a good amount of unbuilt ones too, so never really get a break. rarely build any lower rarities

[wispy jolt]

I need her for eyja event
Also i banned myself from using trag so

[nimble kite]

Nothing really, just need some more damage.

[paper swan]

This is just for my own amusement, but which verstion of Astgenne is better?

[quick jolt]

fully building a 6star in 2 weeks is like maxed out base stuff

[nimble kite]

In that case of banning Trag, Ymod, yes.

[abstract blade]

From where? Should I replace kroos with steward?

[plush tree]

i’m a newbie and i have a top operator permit, who should i pick

[nimble kite]

Can you silence this shit?

[quick jolt]

can you show the options / what you have

[raven ermine]

Screenshot your pool

[abstract blade]

No

[sturdy drift]

No this makes a lot of sense. I know I don't play the game very optimally, but it feels wrong morally to leave lower rarity operators at e0. It feels discriminatory to me.

[nimble kite]

Then his damage will be weaker than Kroos.

[quick jolt]

oh theres a whole guide in pins that covers this. find the link to roadless camelot

[abstract blade]

Damn. 30% of steward is less than 5% of kroos

[median fable]

wtf did I just read

[alpine lance]

so as you can see the golems are tanky in the rest phase, but are every weak when flying. that said both sliverash and kroos don't have the highest DPH, so basically, they aren't hurting it. I suggest you get a caster in your team.

[tepid abyss]

The problem is that once you have stronger operators, you rarely use them anymore.

[abstract blade]

Evil and intimidating 70 res

[nimble kite]

Returnee from Y0.

[wraith sentinel]

(That's why I enjoy gimmicky Operators like Lutonada.)

[paper swan]

There is IS to consider tho

[median fable]

you know "operators" are just png sprites that don't get offended, right?

[quick jolt]

what if they do tho

[plush tree]

wait where

[alpine lance]

don't they lose the reflect?

[median fable]

then they deserve being left e0 if they are shit

[tepid abyss]

There is no other way but to remain silent.

[nimble kite]

You must silence them to drop their RES to 0. He said he cannot silence them.

[rain forge]

something something weak stay weak, strong gets stronger something something

[quick jolt]

scroll down

bottom message, top link, find the "beginner guide" tab in the spreadsheet, then theres a voucher recommendation section

[alpine lance]

ohhh, right F

[sturdy drift]

Every operator deserves a chance. How am I supposed to know if an operator is good or not if I haven't unlocked all their skills?

[abstract blade]

Is there a way to pillar every statue in this level? I can pillar all of them except the first one right now

[wraith sentinel]

You can borrow, or see showcases.

[tepid abyss]

If you train Lappland, you can deal with them quite well.

[quick jolt]

also ignore the "temporary vouchers" part, you dont have those and cant get them anymore

[rain forge]

Support units:

[abstract blade]

I don't have her

[raven ermine]

you don't need to put your fingers in the plug to know that's a bad idea

[opaque remnant]

(The latter doesn’t feel very reliable)

[sturdy drift]

Shoot I'm dumb. That's right.

[odd sky]

henlo help

[nimble kite]

You can time them and kill all of them at once with pillar drop.

[tepid abyss]

5 stars that

[rain forge]

viy vs jessleton 🤫

[raven ermine]

Ray vs slugs rush

[young path]

is it better to accumulate resources and then convert my rocks in one go or is it the same as farming and converting on a day to day basis for orundum base farming

[opaque remnant]

Hmm, fraudelton

[abstract blade]

How? Do I keep it in place with spot until more show up?

[rain forge]

can’t forget that one haruka showcase that made everyone think she was mid

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[sturdy drift]

Convert day to day.

[abstract blade]

Ok I'll try that

[quick jolt]

it doesnt matter at all, do what you prefer. i like to stockpile like a couple thousand rocks/shards before i convert

[raven ermine]

The former
You want to switch your base setup as little as possible
You'll lose less efficiency overall too

[vocal wagon]

is wis s2 or s3 used in is? ( is5! )

[quick jolt]

depends on which IS
in is5, its mainly s2. it does much more dmg after you acquire the lamp relics

[wraith sentinel]

Which pillar remained untoppled in your run?

[rain forge]

S3 big nuke skill, s2 for hitcount

[tepid abyss]

I believe we should respect other people's wishes; he should understand this in the future.

[abstract blade]

None of them

[limpid yarrow]

usually s2 because it scales better

[rain forge]

I remember seeing some schizo s1 archetto strat once

[young path]

well shit back to saving rocks, kind of wanted to see some orundum in the daily reports

[raven ermine]

You'll have to micromanage your base a lot more if you don't do batches

[sturdy drift]

@young path the orundum base farming setup is a very very big brick. Mathmatically, farming 1-7 is enough to support 1 factory and 2 factories is enough to support 1 trading post. Thus you need to switch out your base setup constantly to stay on top of things.

[tribal root]

who should i build? any1 i should mod3? or any1 need a mod?

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/trusty-lime-yak-398y

[tepid abyss]

其实主线关卡完全可以借干员去打，因为基本只会打一次

[knotty wave]

you use s3 wis at the early floors but at the later floors where youve built up the aspd very high already, you switch to s2 wis

[quick jolt]

get hoshialt mod to lvl3

[tepid abyss]

Actually, you can borrow operators to clear the main story stages since you'll basically only do them once.

[plush tree]

hollup i can’t find roadless camelot

[tribal root]

and then?

[raven ermine]

That's why you process everything at once
You can't assume sanity is only spent on 1-7 too, you'll have to farm events (rock stages rates are worse than 1-7 even if you farm that instead)

[quick jolt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/edit?gid=693976745#gid=693976745

[plush tree]

thanks

[wraith sentinel]

The first Tombkeeper you can kill with the middle pillar, the second pair bottom left with another and the three that appear at the right with the bottom right pillar.

[quick jolt]

thats really all i can see rn

[sturdy drift]

I read his question wrong. I thought he meant convert in workshop, then it is better to convert day to day over all at once.

[raven ermine]

As for it being a brick, that's not true, just farm AO when you can afford to
I'm sure corroserum won't mind staying e0

[quick jolt]

what if he does mind

[raven ermine]

I don't care because he's ugly and bad

[tepid abyss]

if you feel hard you can borrow a lapp2 to kill them all

[tribal root]

so texas2, degenbrecher, vina doesnt even need mod? how about archetto, blaze2, nightingale, and dorothy, worth to build?

[abstract blade]

oh im so stupid. I thought that rock spike thingy wouldve blocked the middle pillar from hitting first tombkeeper. this is really easy actually

[rain forge]

Archetto good for IS if you have sakiko or mon3

[tribal root]

cleared IS, wont touch it again

[rain forge]

[tribal root]

so mod3 hoshi2, and that's it

[vital kelp]

wuwei 2 is adapting to the english names

[quick jolt]

you can mod them if you use them. texas is lvl1, not sure about degen/vina. build archetto only if you play IS a lot. dont build blaze2. ng is niche, i dont think you'll need her. dorothy is not really meta but shes not bad and shes quite fun, you can build her if you want to

[strange cedar]

confused reading this abt base: theres a "dont e2 for base" rule? or is that only applied to new players? given that like most of the spreadsheet is showing production at e2

[raven ermine]

texalt new mod is better
Degen mod1
Vina i wouldnt bother
Chetto if you don't play IS is garbage, blaze2 is only a cope option for arts or a burn slop member, ng and dorothy are fine to build

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, you can use the bomb for it so it's quite easy.

[sturdy drift]

You end up sacrificing a lot of lmd production

[tepid abyss]

i think teax2 mody is better
However, it's not implemented here yet.

[wraith sentinel]

Return on investment is multiple years for most operators.

[tribal root]

okay so ill save my resources then, thanks all

[opaque remnant]

So basically, it’s not recommended to invest in ops for base because 99% of the time, of the return of investment for it isn’t worth all
The mats and LMD

[wraith sentinel]

Proviso and Shamare I think are the main exceptions?

[torpid radish]

is there a way to consistently get sarkaz king relics? like the wishing lamp for king relic

[broken flame]

Tequila Shamare ROI starts in like 2 years

[quick jolt]

it just showcases maxed out combos, but they arent exactly all recommendations

[raven ermine]

The rule is more of a tacit thing
It reads something like "if you e2 this operator purely for base, expect to gain back your investment in 5 years or so"

[abstract blade]

anyway im gonna use the bottom left pillar to kill the heavy defender instead and use the top right one to kill the stonekeepers

[strange cedar]

i see, so what is optimal then? is it just using cheap e1 base units?

[marsh dune]

Does adverse stages give more mats for farming?

[sturdy drift]

Yes

[raven ermine]

If you're sitting on tons of mats and lmd, you e2 for base
If you don't, you only use e1 ops and proviso to e2

[wraith sentinel]

Pretty much. Or operators you E2ed for non-base reasons (ROI is mostly only relevant for operators you wouldn't use otherwise).

[ivory terrace]

as far as we saw via statistics, similar drop rates

[quick jolt]

yeah, lamp can actually give them, as long as your current life points are equal to your maximum life points. the easiest way to achieve this is with the "visage of crowned fates" relic, which sets your max LP to 1, but keep in mind if you take it before command level 6, your max life points will still increase from level ups

[marsh dune]

Oh ok

[sturdy drift]

This is very unrelated, but this is annoying me a lot. How to get it to go away?

[tepid abyss]

you should know E2 is much stronger than E1

[quick jolt]

click on it

[nimble kite]

Rid... what?

[torpid radish]

i didn't know it works both way. cool

[raven ermine]

They meant for base production

[ivory terrace]

smth wrong with ur discord app or wut

[raven ermine]

Which is true, but not worth doing unless you're rich already

[sturdy drift]

Thanks. Discord is confusing for me still.

[wraith sentinel]

Onboarding process.

[tepid abyss]

It seems Googlemisled me again.

[wraith sentinel]

Happens.

[raven ermine]

Relying on translation is hard, i feel you

[quick jolt]

i know you said consistently, getting visage isnt exactly consistent as its a random relic. i dont remember if theres an encounter that gives sarkaz kings relics like there is with kings. i suppose if you wanna get them consistently, you can try to never lose any lp, but thats a hassle for a set of relics thats straight up worse than the normal kings

[past charm]

So I saw Sash kept being brought up, but I only have the basic one from when the game launched. Is that the one discussed or an alt one?

[ivory terrace]

what is the context tho
sash1 for newbie
sash2 good vg

[raven ermine]

I was talking about sash guard for your account

[quick jolt]

hes good for newbies

there is an alternate silverash but hes a limited vanguard so you arent getting him

[broken flame]

Everyday I am reminded that I did not in fact get him

[proven kelp]

Good, people should too

[tepid abyss]

why Google translate it 腰带

[ivory terrace]

getting her sister tho

[broken flame]

Poggies

[wraith sentinel]

"Sash" is also an English word that means that.

So Google is technically accurate here since it doesn't know the context.

[broken flame]

We just shorten Silverash to Sash 🥀

[tepid abyss]

emmm

[past charm]

Bet ty

[wraith sentinel]

This is why I use the operators' full names.

[broken flame]

Silverash the Reignfrost
Enciodes Silverash

[past charm]

Yurrr just wanted to clarify my sash was relevant bc I burned a ton of creds getting him e2 rn

[quick jolt]

he can still carry the earlygame since those are stages he was still meta for when they came out, and his module is quite good so he even works in modern content too

i would assume its not recommended for newbies to get his mod, but what do i know

[tepid abyss]

the sash2 is still useful especially in maid 12

[long sky]

how good is viviana?

[quick jolt]

not

[keen scarab]

Not good

[long sky]

awe good design tho :<

[quick jolt]

she requires maxed module to even be considered decent, and then there are still much better options

[tepid abyss]

mot useful

[raven ermine]

Decent with mod3
Bis for base when you can accommodate her team

[tepid abyss]

42 is still useful

[long sky]

how about kal'tsit?

[raven ermine]

Good in IS, relatively bad outside

[vital kelp]

42 is surtr btw

[quick jolt]

i mean shes not BAD but you can feel her age

[glass mural]

There's another one coming in 6 months who might be your cup of tea.

[tepid abyss]

her healing is not good but her due damage is good

[long sky]

how about eunectes and lumen?

[vital kelp]

bad and bad

[tepid abyss]

fly cat

[glass mural]

RA.

[long sky]

i got them four consecutive lol

[raven ermine]

Eunectes good for base (if you have weedy) and RA, trash garbage outside
Lumen bad

[vital kelp]

where did bro pull

[glass mural]

If you care about RA, the unit, and Lumen is just really. Really. Not cost effective.

[keen scarab]

Curious about eunectes.. is her module limited to RA2?

[quick jolt]

her RA mod is

[raven ermine]

Her specialized module, yes

[long sky]

eunectes i got on kernel with a the free thingy
kal'tsit on recruit
viiviana on leizi banner

[vital kelp]

so bro did pull on leizi banner

[long sky]

i just did the 10 thingies

[vital kelp]

i was suspecting, and ofc the guarentee 5 star aaaah

[nimble kite]

5☆ guarantee is a scam.

[wraith sentinel]

Not specifically RA2 but RA yes, unless I'm missing something.

[long sky]

yeaaa :<

i still havent done IS or RA, both seem confusing to me, idek what i did to get radian

[nimble kite]

IS is the Roguelike.

[vital kelp]

leizi banner is a scam so

[wraith sentinel]

IS is mostly just trial and error, getting to learn all the stages and how to deal with them.

[shadow bay]

its not if u get leizi in 1 pull

[nimble kite]

Use what?

[long sky]

whenever i look up a guide i just cry

[wraith sentinel]

That one automation tool I think.

[vital kelp]

cough cough cant talk about that here

[broken flame]

They can be overwhelming for new players yeah

[wraith sentinel]

But yeah, against ToS technically I think.

[nimble kite]

You know that is against ToS, right? Even to speak about it.

[tepid abyss]

Perhaps I didn't look carefully enough.

but i think RA is the shit both for old and new one

[long sky]

whats against tos? 😭

[nimble kite]

He said the name of one automation tool. Usage of any of this is a big no-no.

[vital kelp]

the shit is actually a complement

[long sky]

oh isee

[vital kelp]

english, amazing amirite? shit is bad but the shit is good

[opaque remnant]

That depends on the dialect, the statement, etc… many factors

[shadow bay]

do it.. do it again im not looking at that time

[long sky]

should i start on the first IS? or the Sui one is the better one to start on?

[maiden valley]

why cant my lappland’s wolf ignite Yu’s flame? I dont really understand how they work together sorry

[nimble kite]

Phantom (IS2) and Sarkaz (IS5) are mostly newbie friendly.

Yes, we start counting ISes from 2.

[wraith sentinel]

Damage source and damage need to be on different sides of the wall.

[tepid abyss]

I think both IS1and IS2 are a bit boring.

[shadow bay]

sure is2 simple lay out so if u wanna learn the ropes do so

every is iteration have different gimmicks u can play with

good thing its not time bounded and didn't cost sanity, so take ur time exploring them

[long sky]

why from 2?

[opaque remnant]

“Doesn’t cost sanity” what it doesn’t tell you is the irl sanity cost

[wraith sentinel]

Also if you start with IS2 you'll feel better when doing the other IS iterations.

[maiden valley]

wym so lappland have to be behind the wall?

[shadow bay]

sir is1 is long gone

also is2 is like that since it age well... what do u expect from a game mode that starting to develop 4-5 years ago

[nimble kite]

Yu should be one tile to the right to make Lappy be on one side of the firewall. You ended up being Lappy in the same side as enemies, so fuck you instead of Burn.

[wraith sentinel]

Yes. That's the point of Yu creating a wall.

[long sky]

my irl sanity is the cost this time, after trying the sui one i got so overwhelmed hahha

[tepid abyss]

yes

[coarse notch]

if you've played pvz its like torchwood, projectiles pass through the wall and bring fire with them

[shadow bay]

although ngl is2 high diff so pain in ass... hope economy so doo doo and u cant rly greed combat nodes

[coarse notch]

is2 is the first IS that is still available, is1 was temporary

[maiden valley]

ohhh thanks thanks

[wraith sentinel]

Enemies trigger Nervous Impairment super quickly too.

[long sky]

ooh isee

do i have to build my units for IS?

[nimble kite]

Dude failed to use the Torchwood properly.

[wraith sentinel]

Some 3* Operators are good to have for early IS iterations due to costing 0 Hope.

[coarse notch]

you can borrow all of your opening operators

[wraith sentinel]

Spot, Steward, Fang, Midnight, Ansel, Cardigan, Orchid, uh maybe Melantha too but eh.

[long sky]

so if i wanna use my units i have to build them as well?

[tepid abyss]

yes

[long sky]

dang thats too much, im having a hard time building one at most haha

[wraith sentinel]

Yes, unless you get a Temporary Recruitment (usually quite rare) all the operators you recruit are your own.

[tepid abyss]

i think you can add some friends and borrow their strong operaters

[shadow bay]

yeh u can borrow ur starting squad for IS

after that though ops recruited inside the run dependant to ur roster (outside temp recruitment, which all maxed)

[wraith sentinel]

How much of an improvement are Gracebearer's Masteries?

[broken flame]

It's also why it's recommended to do IS5 if you only want to farm materials and you're pretty new. Since you can borrow Wisadel and abuse Blueprint squad + Lamp of Wishes to help you get through those battlepass levels fairly consistently and fast.

[tepid abyss]

emmm who is Grace

[broken flame]

fire design for a 5* frfr

[tepid abyss]

she is a test on

[raven ermine]

They need to test faster

[marble viper]

the one who graces us

[marble viper]

both visually and mechanically

[tepid abyss]

the operaters in EN is hard to understand

[wraith sentinel]

Don't even know if I'll get her outfit because her base art is already so good.

[subtle hawk]

How do I beat JT8-3

[coarse notch]

#strategy, send roster there

[marble viper]

#strategy

[long sky]

for starting IS5 what squad should i go for? and should i always borrow wis adel?

[broken flame]

Wisadel Gummy Click

[coarse notch]

borrow wis/click/gummy
start with support squad until you unlock blueprint

[tepid abyss]

i think is yes

[polar pier]

Is Ebenholz stronger than Logos against single target?

[coarse notch]

lmfao no

[broken flame]

Look at #is-station pins for more info as well

[grim forum]

wisadel or exalter for is2 ?

[marble viper]

there's a reason logos is a "core" caster

[nimble kite]

Wis.
I would also mention Rosmontis tho. She breaks that Roguelike completely.

[marble viper]

both work

[polar pier]

Really? Why? His kit seems to be built for single target like bosses.

[coarse notch]

hes just not built like logos

[marble viper]

[coarse notch]

his kit is built to frontload all of his damage

[nimble kite]

Something something, RES stat and Arts damage formula.

[grim forum]

i dont think anyone in my friendlist has rosmontis as the support but maybe ill try looking for it

[marble viper]

bla bla bla, calcs?

[quick jolt]

if he doesnt one shot the boss, his damage falls off a cliff after. and without buffers he usually doesnt do that. meanwhile logos can consistently kill most bosses overtime

[shadow bay]

yeh he is just built for thatz to actually nuke elites and bosses

but ig they would explain further in numbers, also theres the problem of him being mystic caster make it him to play around with

[coarse notch]

just choose wis you arent not gonna be utilizing rosmontis effectively with your hands right now

wis is simple and braindead enough to get you introduced to IS

[polar pier]

That's exactly what I want to know. The numbers. Who kills a single target boss faster. I know how strong Logos is generally but I want to know who wins against single target bosses.

[quick jolt]

logos does

[grim forum]

i mean i'm not new to is.. i played it a TON

currently im on guided 9 on IS6, but is2 is harder for me somehow since theres a lot less convenient mechanics

[quick jolt]

especially when the res gets higher

[vital kelp]

s2

logos s2 is a lot of dmg st

[marble viper]

sometimes you get red mist debuff for floor, that's just bad luck

[coarse notch]

pick wis anyways

[grim forum]

wow so i wasnt the only one who thought that the debuff is way too much?

[quick jolt]

should do total for that no? pre sure logos is higher still anyway

[nimble kite]

Eben's got owned on his own game.

[coarse notch]

you're gonna love a certain map in is5
theres a concept in IS called hedging where you draft picks in preparation for hardship ahead, is2's red haze is one part of it

[wraith sentinel]

There are a lot of painful negative effects in IS2.

[shadow bay]

the eben showcase one shotting boss funny though ill give him that

[wraith sentinel]

Can softlock the Kjeragandr stage.

[grim forum]

yeah im actually struggling on difficulty 4 on is2 which is even harder than guided 8 is6 for me

[subtle hawk]

What should I choose for the module

[quick jolt]

panacea

[grim forum]

yea i heard is5 is very convenient but i have yet to check it out, im just shuffling between 2 and 6 rn

[shadow bay]

panacea

[coarse notch]

its actually surprisingly close in terms of total damage to the point that id want to double check the bot's math later
once you add in bounces from multiple targets tho im sure the gap widens

[tepid abyss]

This is because you didn't have the built-in enhancements from IS in the early stages.

[wraith sentinel]

Some of the cursed relics are a huge pain, mm, so watch out for that.

[coarse notch]

just using IS mod for the stats is enough, if you really want to force kal in normal gameplay use panacea as nomnom said

[craggy belfry]

The new nasti banner will be shared pity banner with other banner like that and standard bannerss righttt???

[craggy belfry]

will it also be linked with the 4 charcter or select 3 out of 6 type headhuting banner

like the recent tragordia ulpanias zuo and king stainless one
will these also have shared pity

[nimble kite]

Ah shit I miss my favorite question what to mod to Kal

[ivory terrace]

pity sharing infographic also in roadless camelot /pins

[quick jolt]

the only banners that have separate pity are limited, collab, and kernel. all the standard banners that contain ops in the standard pool will share pity

[craggy belfry]

so its okay to built pity in nasti

[nimble kite]

We never do that. Shouldn't do and you.

[ivory terrace]

dun pull to build pity
u get screwed if u fail successfully

[wraith sentinel]

Genuinely no point in building pity. Guarantee counter does not carry over.

[quick jolt]

never build pity, ever, go all in on what you intend to pull. building pity is a gambling addict's trap and you will end up less likely to get what you want

[coarse notch]

building pity is an excuse created by gamblers to justify their inability to save

[craggy belfry]

she is nasti though ima drop 20 pull and pray max

[quick jolt]

[ivory terrace]

nasti is chen3 coper

[subtle hawk]

S2 or S3 to master

[nimble kite]

Dude, she's superniche. You sure that you still wanna her regardless?

[coarse notch]

ideally both but s3 > s2

[quick jolt]

if you want nasti that bad, its either go all in or dont touch the banner, you are a gambling addict

[craggy belfry]

uhh i want her but not insane about having her
so the 20 pulls gonna be useful after the wang banner selction banner if i dont het her

[coarse notch]

she'll rerun next year btw

[ivory terrace]

wang is limited banner, u start from 0 anyways

[shadow bay]

just skillfully get rate ups in free pulls

[craggy belfry]

thats how i got my silverash xd

[ivory terrace]

get 🧂 over free

[broken flame]

Make sure to pull for Closure so you can now go into debt alongside your gambling addiction

[shadow bay]

but atleast ur aware how shippable nasti is

so pulling after this means u just badly want her or something

and like one pointed out, pity arent connected to wang banner

[wraith sentinel]

-# Shippable.

[shadow bay]

i know what i said

[craggy belfry]

ik the standard pity with the headhuting its connected i just wanted to know that before i pull

i already made my mind up to drop 20 pulls (might drop more xd)

and rn i have 200 pulls so i am good for wang as well

[broken flame]

Edited in might drop more. It's cooked

[shadow bay]

ur also confident for pulling future ops beyond wang???

[marble viper]

omg MH?!!!

[shadow bay]

remember monhun2 recently announced... god knows what will happen to wang banner

[broken flame]

1 day late

[marble viper]

Ik I'm just dramatizing it

[craggy belfry]

the monster hunter colab is the only thing i like after wang and chen alter

[coarse notch]

150 for wang/chen3, 150 for kal/closure, 220 for monhun, 100 for trag, fun times all around

[proven kelp]

https://youtu.be/ZQikxxAvwJc?t=20

If you hyperbuff Eben you kinda just one shot stuff

[broken flame]

Orchid balans op better Wang frfr

[shadow bay]

no way sharing men related video

[proven kelp]

Its allowed when i can shit on Logos

[marble viper]

both still twinks smh 🤫

[proven kelp]

But one is worse

[broken flame]

twinknights

[opaque remnant]

Can’t you achieve the same results with anyone with high atk stats-

[proven kelp]

You can easily kill anyone with hyperbuff yes, but if you want Pure speed then Eben is something else

[light latch]

Factory, trade post

[nimble kite]

Ye

[abstract blade]

if you fail a 3-star do you lose out on anything other than the 3 star bonus?

[quick jolt]

proviso specifically is e2, thats the only one in that image

[nimble kite]

1 Prime.

[abstract blade]

like if your auto deploy ccan only 2-star the mission is that bad

[nimble kite]

Therefore we suggest to always do perfect runs to not waste sanity over not fully cleared battles.

[nimble kite]

You cannot Auto until 3-Star it.

[lament loom]

How do you solve "Difficult Beginnings" Bosky stage in IS6?

[nimble kite]

Tragodia draft.

[abstract blade]

I 3-stared CA-5 (skill summary stage) but doing so relies on krooster to crit. but I can still grind the stage even if I leak sometimes right?

[quick jolt]

have an operator (or a raidian summon) on the tile the ninja will jump to so it gets blocked. and/or just kill them before they can enter the box. if they have the fake hole in front of them, they will jump into the real hole instead

raidian can solo this stage. you can just retreat her summon then place it where you see the next ninja come out

[lament loom]

First time on that stage, map layout looks confusing

[nimble kite]

Raidian still doing nicely against Yi (End1).

[slate ridge]

You lose books compared to 1.2x clear reward iirc

[lament loom]

As usual lol

[nimble kite]

You will lose actually decent amount of mats if you settle with 2-Stars. It's better to farm lower stages where you can do 3-Star instead then.

[marble viper]

which one is it again

[lament loom]

Aight here we go, blind attempt on that stage

[quick jolt]

its like lowkey the easiest bosky stage

[abstract blade]

gotcha

[hexed adder]

The one with ato enemies, very ez yea

[marble viper]

should be very ez with raidian and ur other units

[shadow bay]

but how would u kill the rat in "difficult beginnings "??? 🥹

[lament loom]

Yah I think I just gotta understand the gimmick lol

[quick jolt]

you just dont i guess

[marble viper]

we PULL

[tepid abyss]

Use operators to block the areas without pits, and the monsters will fall into the pits.

[broken flame]

Your rng seed is saved in auto deploy, so if you got a perfect clear cause of the crit then it's fine if that's your saved auto. Frame drops can still break some runs though so keep that in mind. Should be fine if your clear is not too tight.

[past charm]

Which skill for leizi do I master?

[silver smelt]

2

[quick jolt]

s2>s1>s3

[shadow bay]

deym i thought u will pull some neat trick to actually dps that shit, coz the rat for sure aint turning back on us

[tepid abyss]

2and3

[marble viper]

and 1

[silver smelt]

and when hae u guys used either

[smoky urchin]

Soo, I'm starting the game and got no clue what characters to pick from vouchers

[quick jolt]

in is, s1, i havent. i use s3 in ed2 and ed4

[shadow bay]

i was told s1 would be useful in that one stage in is6 with multiple dragons and theres a stove in middle of em

[quick jolt]

i use s1 in gen contnet

[shadow bay]

which rly haven't tested yet, as i yet to encounter said stage (yeh i died the time i entered blind there)

[lament loom]

Aight stage cleared but I cant even get the Duck Lord bruh

[scenic yoke]

I assume sa2 is better in every scenario then myrtle?

[shadow bay]

well sashter have other utility aside from generating dp so yeh

[quick jolt]

yeah pretty much. even his s1

[lament loom]

Only way is like Mylnar or ground ops with ranged attack

[scenic yoke]

Man I have been using myrtle since I started this game replacing her feels so wrong ffs

[lament loom]

Just think about it for a moment when u read his kit whos 6* VG compared to 4* Flagbearer

[silver smelt]

myrtle was never that good idk man

[lament loom]

[silver smelt]

people will happily replace kroos with wisadel but not myrtle with anything better

[scenic yoke]

Vigil is also a 6* VG and I rather use myrtle:)

[opaque remnant]

The propaganda was too deep

[shadow bay]

wanking after his rr: am i not good of a flag? 🥹

[lament loom]

Oh u tested it already?

[opaque remnant]

A good portion of the 6 star welfares are pretty worthless

[lament loom]

Yah pretty much

Bro what is that Bosky stage with DP reduction holy

Perma 0 DP

[broken flame]

[lament loom]

Failed twice on that stage after trying to clear out the DP reduction guys

I cant figure out the solution, might have to look for help somewhere

[broken flame]

-# the solution is to path around the turmoil

[lament loom]

That stage genuinely caught me offguard

Its like first time blind Manmade Carnival when I played IS for the first time 2 years ago lmao

Gonna check Bilibili for solutions

[broken flame]

You can cope it with FRD, -2 DP cost on specialist so Exu Pot1 can open the stage, or gamble the 0 cost from ed2 relic. Very fun turmoil truly 🥀

[opaque remnant]

Is this those assholes with infinite perma DP reduction skill

[lament loom]

Yeah, it seems like the solution so far when I tried it was just Exu2 with FRD and Raidian later

[broken flame]

Yeah the shooting guys and the shrine nurturer

[wintry steppe]

any way how to counter rat king in annihilation?

[lament loom]

Why yes indeed, that stage is cancer lmfao
Caught me offguard, failed twice anyway

[opaque remnant]

Took me 2 clears just because of them…

[nimble kite]

ASAP

[opaque remnant]

I keep thinking of sa2 S2, but like, you don’t even have enough DP to deploy him

[lament loom]

Do u know how Rat King works?

[wintry steppe]

Not much

[nimble kite]

Just kill him ASAP.

[opaque remnant]

Pierce through arts barrier, now death

[lament loom]

I mean, he has two targeting that u can probs bait, and an Arts barrier that u can burst after breaking it

[broken flame]

How much dp can we get again before they start turning dp gen to 0 for that turmoil

[opaque remnant]

Enough to deploy a radian

[lament loom]

Good question. I used Surfer to gen DP and try to kill the DP crossbow guy (it didnt work). I can deploy 14DP cost Exu2. Or deploy Raidian but my summons cost 7 DP so like thats just unusuable lmfao

[broken flame]

Integrated Strategies when my strategy can't integrate

[haughty silo]

thanks for the link
it's really helpful, now i know i'm perfectly landed on speculated banner date

[lament loom]

Like bro, who designed that stage lmao

[spark meadow]

swift or agile for fedex

[nimble kite]

Agile

[spark meadow]

okay

oh what strategy for laterano? ive never seen someone use paganini

[nimble kite]

I do.

[spark meadow]

is. is it good

do you enjoy getting one (1) lateran operator tier 4 or above

[nimble kite]

Like, waste 55 Gold and you might immediately get Promoted ExecutorAlter in your team.

[spark meadow]

wait it's elite??

[nimble kite]

Shiny Gold from 3 dupes.

[spark meadow]

at the risk of getting fia or miksa 😢

[nimble kite]

And Lemuen. 25%

[spark meadow]

hope i get stainless for fedex tycoon

[spark meadow]

there's 5. lemuen (okay) exu2 (okay) fedex (🤤) fia and miksa

[nimble kite]

Oh, I forgot the ExuAlt.
20%

[spark meadow]

come back later i need to excercise the second amendment

[unkempt pollen]

hi guys is kaltshit and rosmo mody3 and modx1 respectively

operators are too old, out of my expertise

[nimble kite]

No. Kaltsit and Rosmontis should be ModA3.

[unkempt pollen]

uh why else would i ask about non-IS mods

i already have them both moda3 but i tend to use my operators outside of IS

[nimble kite]

If you gonna use them outside IS, then Kaltsit ModY3, yes, and ditch Rosmontis.

[haughty silo]

does any healer can heal elemental injury or there's a specific archetype for it?

[coarse notch]

wandering medics

[unkempt pollen]

yes but the only one worth considering is eyjafyalla the hvit aska

[nimble kite]

Wandering medics can remove ElemCircle.

[unkempt pollen]

the rest are useable but won’t make the cut 99% of the time

[haughty silo]

aaah i see all wandering med can heal it..thanks guys,

[grave bramble]

When the only one "worth considering" is overkill for healing elemental dmg

[unkempt pollen]

overkill is better than not enough

[haughty silo]

also what's eyjalt main skill? i have her un-builded yet

got it, thanks lifeng that keep reminding us to check the pins

[unkempt pollen]

s1 for afk, s3 otherwise

sometimes s1 better than s3 even when you’re not going afk though cause cycling

[coarse notch]

basically just use s1sl7 most of the time

[lament loom]

S1 general, s2 (for SPA), s3 for global heal use case

[unkempt pollen]

am i crazy for not borrowing an eyja for spa and just sticking with touch cause she’s busted

[neat mirage]

how good are kal2 and closure?

[quick jolt]

they're pretty good

[nimble kite]

Fine

[coarse notch]

quite good

[neat mirage]

realio
hows zima alt?

[nimble kite]

AFK bot with huge stats

[coarse notch]

pretty good as well but deeply unfortunate banner timing and she doesnt really bring anything new to the table nor does she significantly push the power ceiling

[quick jolt]

she does good damage on s3 and her s2 is pretty good as far as afk laneholding skills go

[neat mirage]

aye got it

[haughty silo]

oh before i forget to ask, does the limited that sold on spark shop depends on what rateoff the current banner has? or it has it's own schedule?

[nimble kite]

You mean when he will costs 200 and when all 300?

[quick jolt]

it depends on the type of limited banner. theres 3 limited pools. a limited banner will have all the operators in its respective pool as offrates and in spark shop

[coarse notch]

if they're available as an offrate on that banner, they're available for purchase in the spark shop
operators are available after a year in future limited banners that are the same as the banner type they debuted on

[haughty silo]

aaah i see
thanks again guys

[coarse notch]

200 spark cost is just based on age, pretty consistently been decreasing the next oldest operator with all 200 cost ops being 4+ years old

[boreal sentinel]

Nasti is coming up, disregarding the upcoming banners, how good is she and what are her uses?

[smoky urchin]

Anyone perhaps can answer?

[robust widget]

its in the pins

[quick jolt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/edit?gid=693976745#gid=693976745 go to voucher recommendations

ignore the "temporary vouchers" section

[haughty silo]

oh i thought the 200 is for paired up operator like closure & pramalt
thanks for the new knowledge

[smoky urchin]

Ty, I've been just scrolling through many vids and Reddit posts, till came here figuring it out

[boreal sentinel]

Damn, that was unexpected but a pleasant surprise at that

[young glacier]

Flower pot from PvZ joke

[quick jolt]

youtube and reddit are especially full of misinfo, so best to just come here for stuff

[cobalt edge]

Is there something that has the map layout of the resources in RA?

[boreal sentinel]

I've seen some Nasti propaganda but realistically it just doesn't interest me as much as I thought as a fan of the artificer architype lmao

[quick jolt]

shes good, you just really do not need her at all

[young glacier]

I don't need her. I want her

[quick jolt]

id build her if i got her offrate but would not pull her

[slim tusk]

can i bring exu1 from the grave with nasti

[young glacier]

Kroos alter > Exu1

[boreal sentinel]

Her s2 of all things are her main selling point to me

[vestal tartan]

genuinely what gives stacks for these

[undone portal]

draft warfarin. on every run. thank me later

[young glacier]

Idk read characters of those groups or just have Aid 2/2 or 3/2 and sleep (activate wanted groups first)

[undone portal]

aid stack also works if you can get it up early

[vestal tartan]

like the strategy?

[scenic yoke]

Does para ice have any special effects on the holes? It looks like she freezed it as well

[boreal sentinel]

Just because there's an extra tile to put a ranged unit on won't change the fact about their current state as a powercrept operator lmao

[sullen shale]

Who stacks fast of these

[vestal tartan]

ah ok I've never actually used aid

[robust widget]

thats just the effect of her s2 i think

[quick jolt]

she cant freeze holes, thats just her range outline

[undone portal]

warfarin herself grants '+1 to own alliances on skill activation' to the op in front of her, up to 10 times per round

[vestal tartan]

oh ok

[sullen shale]

Is warf marvel?

[undone portal]

just marvel yea

[slim tusk]

b-but perma 60% atk buff,it's like mini warf fr

[sullen shale]

Gonna pair with thorn alt and civilight maybe

[smoky urchin]

So I assume if the info is correct, Specter and Silence? Are the picks I need

[sullen shale]

If lucky to get them early

[undone portal]

civ.eterna grants '+1 stack whenever you add stacks' to the op in front of her. stack both warf/civ onto someone who can skill spam and youve got a fairly consistent +20 to their alliances every round

[robust widget]

warf, mon3tr crystal, civilight and thorn alt to penta buff her on the nasti tile :)

[quick jolt]

silence yes, imo lappland>specter but it really doesnt matter much, if more people tell you to get specter / you like her more, then get her

[sullen shale]

[compact sand]

Is this real? I feel like my kroos is weak

[smoky urchin]

Ngl, i wanna trust you more than media since it may be outdated but something like this
It is

[undone portal]

oh right, unrealized realities drops before sp:a ends we get to try out the new ops in this context

[boreal sentinel]

One extra tile of reach won't change the fact that exu1 casually just tickles elites in year 7 lol

[quick jolt]

its not outdated, but its just one opinion

and its not necessarily incorrect

[median fable]

the lappland vs specter vs tequila is an argument everyone here had and there are valid points for each one

[undone portal]

does nasti prep her tile during rest phase? would be nice if her s3 fully works

[smoky urchin]

Well, idk how to determine the pick ngl
This is all I know

[undone portal]

genuinely considering throwing skybox into this discussion
point is, theres several objectively 'good' options at this point

[opaque remnant]

Isn’t their individual benefits stated in the e2 ticket thing

[smoky urchin]

Yet I've got no idea about future gameplay, aka experience

[quick jolt]

they are but a newbie cant always determine which is more valuable to have

[opaque remnant]

It doesn’t matter much in the long run tbh which of them you pick

[quick jolt]

but yeah like i said, imo just take lappland. regardless, either of them will be optimized out of your squad when you get better units

[visual sluice]

assuming they can make it to the long run

[young glacier]

Exu1 S3 - 5x multihit activating on auto. Kroos alt S2 - 2x multihit upgrading to 4x you activate manually. Both can be buff stacked to erase content. Which is dead strat with how OP modern stuff is. But nothing stops me from doing them from time to time.

[median fable]

skybox is nice for a newbie but not that nice

I'd consider it for vakaris though

[smoky urchin]

Well, I'm quite committed to games alike, but issue is I'll have to giane experience to be able to compare, which I lack

[undone portal]

specter/varkaris are comfy consistent laneholders that take little thought to work well
tequila is a nuker who comfortably transitions into a base worker once your account outgrows him
lappland shuts down very specific annoying enemies that newbies otherwise tend to struggle with
skybox has similar nuking power to tequila on a much shorter cycle, but doesnt have as notable base utility

[quick jolt]

i mean, right now they're just choosing who to get from the voucher, havent even gotten to the e2 ticket discussion yet

i think

[smoky urchin]

Ngl, no clue what's the meaning of E2

[quick jolt]

operators can be promoted when they reach max level, up to 2 times. elite 1 then elite 2

[visual sluice]

im new too... choices must be made correctly so all that time wouldnt be wasted farming for materials

[quick jolt]

unlocks new skills/talents(passives) and general stat increases

[smoky urchin]

Legit, I'm afraid of regretting something and being stuck for decades later on

[opaque remnant]

The beginner selector isn’t going to brick your account picking either is fine

[quick jolt]

trust me that wont happen. even if you selected a bunch of operators that are objectively dogshit, you'd be able to play the game

[visual sluice]

yeah, especially with the powercreep goin on

[smoky urchin]

From these I assume silence and then I guessed Lapland

[visual sluice]

silence good

[median fable]

powercreep is such a non issue in this game

[quick jolt]

silence and later ptilopsis can lowkey be your main medics for months/years

[undone portal]

^ my starter selection was siege/weedy/liskarm, you could do so much worse and end up with a perfectly good account

[smoky urchin]

I haven't leveled up perhaps my operators but I'm already quite freaked by how stronger the enemies are before reaching chapter 2 even

[robust thistle]

h*yo players getting PTSD when they start an actually balanced game

[quick jolt]

once you get some levels youll go back to just steamrolling them

[undone portal]

mfw the game is made by competent game designers

[slim tusk]

chap 2 is still e0 playing ground so uh

[smoky urchin]

Fr, one mistake you're gone usually id you don't play chess and plan ahead ten steps, (my case)

[median fable]

you can clear the game woth average units
meta units just reduce the strategy component making it more braindead but it doesn't debilitate people who don't use said meta units

[rain forge]

The only thing new players need to worry about is the fact that they start off in the Great Depression of levelling mats

[robust thistle]

its still training wheels until youre done with 2-10

[opaque remnant]

Yep

[visual sluice]

b-but i need to know which op can be used in long run!! else i need to keep farming for longer than i should!

[robust widget]

mihoyo resisting the urge to add like 10% of a boss hp extra per patch

[robust thistle]

you will keep farming ragardless of how good your start is

[undone portal]

you usually get out of material drought after playing a couple events

[opaque remnant]

500k LMD is a really good jumpstart

[robust thistle]

what do you think the 6 year old players are doing? theyre farming mats

[visual sluice]

welp, auto deploy it is

[smoky urchin]

Oh I'm curious! What's the ratio, like must I have my team full of 5 stars better and 5* or a half of 4* cause they are easier to skill up or alike? Idk if that's even the case

[robust thistle]

there is no ideal ratio

[quick jolt]

rarity (and class) doesnt matter much, most 5stars are infact awful, it depends on the individual operators' kits

[undone portal]

youll rely a lot on 4stars early on since theyre cheap to raise
its less about maintaining an even 'ratio' and more just raising whoevers good and/or fills a niche your squad is otherwise missing

[quick jolt]

dont use an operator just because they're a 5star or a 6star, some are complete wastes of mats

[robust thistle]

also /pins

[smoky urchin]

I see, it's just one person I knew told me he played this game and it took him one month up to two to max one 6* so I was like concerned how I start off

[quick jolt]

that person played really inefficiently

[visual sluice]

dragging myself to the wiki

[robust thistle]

because youre not supposed to max a *6 either

the raw LMD cost of leveling halfway through an E2 *6 is enough to build another one from scratch

[undone portal]

if 'maxing' means lv90 mastery9 then yea sure that takes more than a month of sanity
raising a 6star to a normal build level just takes 2weeks

[shadow bay]

wow seems like a player who live in 2022

[robust thistle]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[visual sluice]

guys, which banner should i pull next

[robust thistle]

see above

[shadow bay]

no one?

[left tulip]

W*ng

[undone portal]

pins have it for you

[shadow bay]

oh like next... then yeh wang

i thought like next patch lmao

[visual sluice]

disposing some originium

[formal shadow]

freeslots dot com

[robust thistle]

how rich are you that youre disposing your pull currency

[smoky urchin]

Yup, Ty, and yeah I'm also curious about the banners to pull, I've thought since I got. 6* from it, I'd rather go for the time dependant ones rather than indefinite one

[robust thistle]

still in the pins

[undone portal]

even if youre rich wouldnt you still rather spend your money on food instead of getting scammed

[visual sluice]

im not rich, but its fun to roll, and i wouldnt see another use for em orundum

[robust thistle]

if youre asking here, wait for a good banner, otherwise just do whatever you want

[quick jolt]

you should do single pulls on the beginner banner btw, until you get a 6star. then never touch it again. after that just save (do not pull nasti in a few days)

[shadow bay]

okay gambler number 76583940

[robust thistle]

you wont be here in the next 2 weeks anyways

[median fable]

go to a therapist, you just described gambling addiction
unfortunately this is gameplay #help not mental help

[smoky urchin]

I see, thanks! As for nasti, I'll rather save up for her ig before I pull beginners banner

[quick jolt]

you want her?

[rain forge]

Don’t pull nasti

[quick jolt]

i mean if they want her they can pull her it doesnt matter, you would rather just save for the upcoming limited

[rain forge]

She’s extremely niche (in a bad way)

[undone portal]

do not pull for nasti unless youre aware of why you want her

[shadow bay]

i woudl rly keep my hands away from nasti unless u rly need her for some reason... or just a simp

[robust thistle]

if you read the stuff in pins, shes not a good banner

[smoky urchin]

I misinterpreted it by mistake, I thought to pull instead of not to pull, myb

[quick jolt]

[pearl forge]

I somehow feel nasti is a good starter into the game for beginners. I would enjoy starting with her, cause it allows me to use my fav ops in more creative ways gradually progressing.

[quick jolt]

yeah anyway theres a limited banner in a couple months which is probably the strongest banner in the game's history

[robust thistle]

????

nasti is a good starter is a new one

[smoky urchin]

Let's goo, I'm all down for it then, trust me I'll be here

[visual sluice]

noted

[undone portal]

i cant imagine what the learning curve for nasti account starter feels like

[rain forge]

number 1 schizoposter of ako

[honest robin]

Help, please... Rightside npc(mob) just walking and ignore all units

12-9 adverse

[robust thistle]

read enemy info

theres one specific enemy that causes your problem

[robust widget]

One of the enemies disables block i think

[quick jolt]

isnt that 12-19 not 12-9

[robust widget]

You have to kill that one fast

[left tulip]

You guys weren’t joking I see

[proven kelp]

Not exactly disable block, just makes the spy unblockable

[rough cloak]

who should I spend resources to e2 first? Closure, Pramanix alter, Exusiai Alter, or Kal'tsit alter? None of my operators is at e2 yet

[rain forge]

exu > pram

[quick jolt]

exu alt

[robust thistle]

exialt

[smoky urchin]

Oh actually one more thing, anyone's willing to become my friend so I can steal your support operator?

[robust thistle]

just go to #friend-id and add randos

[quick jolt]

Rose#3641 i have slots

[rain forge]

#friend-id

[formal shadow]

add everyone in #friend-id it's quicker and easier

[rough cloak]

ok thanks!

[undone portal]

Ori#6261 my support ops arent exactly meta, but i aim to provide fun
also check #friend-id

[rough cloak]

if i use exu alt as a pure dps, pick second skill over the third right?

[opaque remnant]

friend all the people you see in support tab before level 20 so your options don't get ruined

[rain forge]

ive got a gracebearer if you want

[opaque remnant]

500 wis'adels

[rigid hill]

Should I build Texas or stay with Courier?

[rain forge]

ass vs ass

[smoky urchin]

Wdym by ruined option in support tab

[shadow bay]

stay

[rigid hill]

Better than nothing at all

[pearl forge]

courier for now

[rain forge]

stay with courier because atleast she doesn’t cost an arm a leg and a kidney

[formal shadow]

he*

[rigid hill]

He

[proven kelp]

It

[rain forge]

[opaque remnant]

because before level 20, you can borrow supports from people mostly level 120, once you pass it you're recommended people the same level as you, and it's well, not exactly useful

[rain forge]

the woes and perils of playing without sound

[rigid hill]

I'll just stay with SilverAlt, Mumu and Courier

[quick jolt]

he doesnt even look like a girl?

[opaque remnant]

isn't it easy to read their face

[rain forge]

I thought he was a tomboy

[rain forge]

Silveralt alone is enough you don’t need the other two

[rigid hill]

The ost and voice acting is peak why are you muting it?

[rain forge]

it’s hard to explain

[rigid hill]

You also told me to get Młynar instead of Mon3tr

[shadow bay]

okay sir must be rough to buy time deploying that mudrock and penance huh

[rain forge]

yes mlynar was the better option there

[scenic yoke]

Any op worth getting here maybe as base slave? (I have Ethan)

[rigid hill]

I crave for speed

[undone portal]

its normal to have low device storage space

[shadow bay]

quartz

[scenic yoke]

Already have her as well

[rigid hill]

Honeyberry for elemental injury

[rain forge]

quartz and Diamante (Diamante only if you have shamare and tequila)

[smoky urchin]

Curious how do I get orundum if not for missions of story

[rain forge]

annihilations, dailies, weeklies

[rigid hill]

Annihilations

[shadow bay]

yeh seems like it

tbh thats that... if u rly dont have someone to place if u happend to enable the sham teq, u can cope diamante

[nimble kite]

Dude, it's my most favorite question.

When I just see any pixel of 12-19, I already knew what is the question.

[scenic yoke]

Haruka does not concern herself with elemental injury

[quick jolt]

do your weekly annihilation missions. they actually give you more orundum than the standard missions, its a big chunk of pull income

[smoky urchin]

Gotcha Ty Ty

[robust widget]

Its like 3k orundum weekly right

[rigid hill]

Yeah thing is not everyone has Haruka

[shadow bay]

given u dont have bibeak/paprika/kafka already

[robust thistle]

the one asking already has haruka

[smoky urchin]

Damn.. so 1/2 of a 10 pull? I'm cooked

[quick jolt]

those arent the only sources of pulls dw

[hardy pasture]

Quartz for the base,
Honeyberry if you need elemental medic

[scenic yoke]

I have tequila but not shamare

[quick jolt]

they're just the "passive" income

[shadow bay]

another one for honeyberry... deym my wanderings eating good arent we 🥹

[boreal sentinel]

1800 anni
100 x 7 for daily missions
500 for weekly missions

So yea 3k unless you also farm orirock for pulls

[quick jolt]

youll get more from story, events, and cert shop

[robust widget]

But thats legit without nothing else, you have first time clear rewards for both normal stages, event stages, side stories and certs

[smoky urchin]

AHH, are they used for something else too? Or they are really just passive for pulls

[shadow bay]

and do u have bibeak/kafka/paprika?

[undone portal]

team doesnt work without shamare, so you can ignore diamante for now
chances are you might have one of the alternatives by then and not need to pick him up

[quick jolt]

no orundum is only used for pulls, but you can grind more pulls elsewhere

[smoky urchin]

Aight bet, could you tell me where so I'd prepare for it

[quick jolt]

story and events

[opaque remnant]

also from anni's first clear

you get 2000 per first clear

[quick jolt]

in your first year of playing you will not struggle to get pulls at all lol

[scenic yoke]

From them only paprika

[opaque remnant]

depends on how fast you blowthrough story and side content

[rain forge]

then you enter limbo 🤫

[shadow bay]

then there goes diamante value

which at point ur fine not bothering red certs anymore aside from usual chip glue and monthly mod block

when u happened to have shamare and plan to raise them for base, u use paprika instead

[quick jolt]

i know, i estimate a year because it took me that long while trying to farm events when i can

you can do it much faster though

[scenic yoke]

I use paprika with provisio currently but alright I see

[smoky urchin]

Well I appreciate everyone's help for sure and I'll go finally play after doing research for 90% / 10% gameplay

[bright dawn]

Masteries priority for Gnosis?

[shadow bay]

now here quartz would come to play

[nimble kite]

S3 > S2.

[urban sleet]

S2 if IS

[quick jolt]

s2 if you're using him in IS

[rain forge]

what’s the final verdict on closure and kalkal

[quick jolt]

they good, pull them

[nimble kite]

Fine. Not broken.

[shadow bay]

would

[urban sleet]

Go sell your kidney or sth if you fall short on pulls for monhun

[scenic yoke]

I didn't really understand the guide I thought I read paprika was fine with her but then I'll change it, need to raise her still tho E1 or e2

[left tulip]

What is limbo

[rain forge]

I’m stuck between pulling and not pulling kal2 because I alr have mon3 for true damage and I don’t feel like I’d really need that redeploy on s3

[opaque remnant]

basically content draught

[left tulip]

Unfort

[boreal sentinel]

Raidian practically guarantees a smooth start for any acc regardless of luck

[shadow bay]

w8 i dont think the two work together?

[rain forge]

I’m p sure they anti synergy

[median fable]

not thst smooth because getting her and leveling isn't that easy for a new player

[urban sleet]

Why is JJ not arknoghts educayor anymore

[undone portal]

yea proviso wants to avoid natural 4bar orders for her skill to work

[rain forge]

Jj falloff real

[shadow bay]

also just bother with paprika when u have shamare

for now e1 that quartz and use her with proviso

[median fable]

to be more relatable to PM fans so they listen what I say

[urban sleet]

PM players in ako outside of off topic and cn lounge

[robust widget]

Unparalleled strategy 😭

[opaque remnant]

ako?

[rain forge]

pm fan + ak en player do you think they can comprehend a sentence that’s longer than 2 words

[nimble kite]

Arknights Official (Discord Server)
You are here

[opaque remnant]

ah right

[gritty bluff]

anyone know all the item combo for damazti isomorph? like the obvious ones i know, but what trait does it make with concentrated salt or dormant heir etc.

[median fable]

these are limbus fans

[nimble kite]

Pic in #stronghold-hall go find it

[rain forge]

even worse, they can’t even read words longer than 2 characters

[undone portal]

some items dont do anything with isomorph, only the ones with very clear name-alliance parallels

[opaque remnant]

I mean...

[gritty bluff]

found it, thanks 👍

[scenic yoke]

alright will do

[undone portal]

only item that pairs with isomorph that doesnt literally have the alliance name in it is quick combat rations (swift) and that might just be a bad localization thing

[opaque remnant]

it's been a while since I asked, what should I work on? (other than modules) https://www.krooster.com/u/swift-lemon-mint-58yf

oh, the support tab isn't aligned with what I leveled

[nimble kite]

Krooster doesn't update your roster automatically, you have to Import every time if you want to update the data.

[rain forge]

Shamare e2

aside from that sa2 and sakiko s3m3

[limber jewel]

I have a question, should I pull for Nasti?
I'm still relatively new, about 4 months worth playing tho I was on and off with it account, recently came back

[nimble kite]

Pins

[urban sleet]

Tldr shes a fun unit and thats about it

[real sphinx]

is the stronghold protocol doable in 1 day

[nimble kite]

If you spare whole day to it.

[shadow bay]

can i pay someone to play for stronghold?

[robust widget]

It costs a day but it works

Procrastination is the best!

[undone portal]

youll spend less time if you just play once a day, you get free points for daily activity

[quick jolt]

i accidentally declined your friend request so if you'd like you can go accept mine

[opaque remnant]

No ray then?

[undone portal]

added

[pliant valve]

if i deploy civi facing down, the "front" of her is executor right?

[nimble kite]

Correct

[pliant valve]

aight, thankss

[undone portal]

s3m3 ray, wait for mod y to release unless you like the idea of having less sandbeast rdp time from mod x
would consider raising mantra/silverash/surtr/kal'tsit/ifrit, and continuing your work on raidian

[opaque remnant]

I’m pausing IS6 for the sake of irl sanity since I spent a week straight playing through it

And no other specific baseslaves other than shamare?

[young path]

weedy for base or do i risk getting m*gallan for suzuran

[urban sleet]

Weedy is more than just base

[undone portal]

id take the guaranteed weedy. like koo says, for more than just base

[young path]

if the usecase is in IS then its nonexistent for me i dont touch that

[undone portal]

the usecase is also in cc

[young path]

fair enough, welcome weedy

[hardy pasture]

Weedy is usable in CC

[opaque remnant]

Weedy

[rain forge]

50/50 niche but good unit or 100% niche but good unit

[urban sleet]

-# magallan ccb3 low ops max risk usage

[undone portal]

suzus starting to feel niche but alright icl

[opaque remnant]

Isn’t weedy higher up the niche list than suzu anyways

[undone portal]

that might just be my ela haver privilege speaking though

[opaque remnant]

They’re up there with kal

[urban sleet]

Weedy has existing usecases these days
Meanwhile is suzu is a good tool to have

[undone portal]

suzus just comfy to have, helps push out more damage against those bosses youd rather have dead asap

[left tulip]

What use cases these days

[undone portal]

still a meta is3 pick, perennial relevancy whenever cc comes around

[left tulip]

I didn’t know meta IS3

[undone portal]

weedy/angelina combo to shove izumik into a hole is arguably the easiest solution to ed4

[left tulip]

I see

[undone portal]

and theyre both fairly comfy to have enroute, angelina especially

[opaque remnant]

Ah yes, the best solution to any problem is the hole

[quick jolt]

weedy's very very good in ed4 even if you arent putting izumik in the hole, and shes good in ed1 and i think ed3 aswell

[undone portal]

yea, even if you arent aiming for hole, you can swap weedy over to s2 as a consistent stall lanehold for his offspring

[quick jolt]

or use her for acid cancel

[vital kelp]

does exu2 talent not count herself as a laterno op

[undone portal]

it does

[vital kelp]

shes only giving 15% efficiency in base if i pair her with archetto

??? archetto is 40 cuz i have maxed dorm, +7 from cc

[undone portal]

oh, base skill, thats different. there she does not
base skills only consider primary factions

no reason to run exualt in base unless you also have lemuen

[vital kelp]

i do, i was just unsure why its not 137% like i thought it would be

so its better to run og exu? 40 + 35 + 45 better

[undone portal]

also no reason to run archetto at all unless youre running 243 setup
yea, best team is exualt/lemuen/exu1

ambriels workable for those without exu1

[vital kelp]

i did say i have maxed dorm

maybe i should pair exu with lemuen as backup for proviso

although what would be the backup for my other trading post while sham/teq asleep?

quartz and archetto for 76% efficiency

do i just slot in a generic 30% then

[undone portal]

assuming you dont have fiammetta to keep them constant
are kjerag/sui setups possible for you

[vital kelp]

im using kjerag for 92% efficiency proviso during her main shift

sui... i think im missing some

[undone portal]

since you do have archetto + 243, keep her with exualt/lemuen

could run the old classic penguin logistics team if you have them built

[vital kelp]

lappland and texas just 65% together

archetto quartz is 76%
just need a filler for the third slot

i think its better to run archetto free to have lemuen exu for proviso, 80% is good pair

[undone portal]

generic filler.. theres vigil/underflow/bellone who can all reach 40% with certain conditions

[vital kelp]

none of which i have raised

might as well use chilchuck for now

[undone portal]

chil works, hes 35% if senshi keeps him fed iirc

[vital kelp]

i didnt raise senshi but hes 30% with +1 lim so better than other 30% i do

[undone portal]

rosesalts 30% 3lim if you have her

[vital kelp]

not e2

welp

113% as a backup works good enuff for me

how to even make exu2 talent useful bruh u need 2 laterno for just 30%, its lowkey ass

[undone portal]

its highkey ass, shes just an ideal coworker for lemuen/exu1 since she can get all 3 of them rested up quickly to cover for shifts

[odd sky]

i missed b*se talk noway

[fresh anvil]

interesting next month on cn

[ancient lintel]

I heard somethin about a persona 3 collab is this true?

[nimble kite]

Fake. So far only MLP as cringy collab.

[heavy light]

Do anyone know when will be the next 6*star will be out??

[robust thistle]

pins

or #game-news
if its not in those, then none of use here works at yostar

[nimble kite]

/pins

[high tusk]

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[ivory terrace]

indeed
og exu has 35 at e2
lemu considers either form for base

[nimble kite]

Oh thx for reminding about Chetto, will pair with ExuAlt

[ancient lintel]

Eh it's cringy ya but in terms of brand value MLP is (or it's not i forgot) 1 of the biggest brands out there no?

[nimble kite]

Maybe

[ivory terrace]

maybe... is it a hasbro ip

[chilly skiff]

ok why the bg music when Im in base and when Im in lobby is different wtf

[ivory terrace]

always had been if we consider defaults
u can at least change it now

[chilly skiff]

how do I change for base

[robust thistle]

wdym, just change the background

[ivory terrace]

that jukebox furniture in ur reception room

[chilly skiff]

dang

[robust thistle]

oh the base soundtrack

[lament loom]

Is it worth having mod3 exu2 or just mod1 is fine

[nimble kite]

Mod3 for damage. Mod1 if you poor.

[robust thistle]

mod1 is fine, mod3 if you like bigger dmg

[ivory terrace]

is more damage for still meta operator, y wouldn't u

[lament loom]

Yeah valid points, aight then

[static glade]

Suzuran only mastery should be s3 not s2 also right?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[robust thistle]

youre not gonna use her s2

[static glade]

Ok 👌

[ivory terrace]

ye
unless u use s2 just to afk lol

[nimble kite]

In SSS
Which is M1 is enough for 3rd target hit

[jaunty eagle]

i heard that MH collab will come in early june is it true?~

[ivory terrace]

around june in CN

[nimble kite]

With YatoAlter Rerun as well.

[shadow bay]

deym suzuran sss is so 2022

[jaunty eagle]

this june or next june?~

[shadow bay]

i dont even know if sss debuted in 2022

[robust thistle]

next june

[jaunty eagle]

lol~

[nimble kite]

I'm not sure now, cannot read CN.

[ivory terrace]

no way they announce for next year

[robust thistle]

its their long term plan, trust

[jaunty eagle]

ok thank you...my one year savings will start~

[shadow bay]

i need time to p6 yato

[jaunty eagle]

and june is my birth month~

[neon siren]

Is lessing good?

[nimble kite]

Dreadnoughts are shit 🥀

[left tulip]

How many pulls would that take

[shadow bay]

atleast 6

[neon siren]

Oh

[ivory terrace]

u didn't have her?

[left tulip]

okay friend

[shadow bay]

yeh i have her but lmao... if me speaking i only need 2 copies more

[jaunty eagle]

i think i can resist the urge to pull now that i have ashalter,and her sister alter~

[shadow bay]

so that ig put me atleast 2

[left tulip]

Can I please ask for a more serious answer

[robust thistle]

is someone preventing you

[shadow bay]

but ofc seriously speaking i dont know how much... its not like we have safety net to get copies in collab banner aside the first copy in 120 pulls

[robust thistle]

well I mean how do we know how much would someone need to get 2 copy

[jaunty eagle]

how much orundom? for 120 or 200 pulls~

[ivory terrace]

ye collab pity only have that 120 hard pity that work like how 5* pity works

[lunar apex]

120k for 200

[jaunty eagle]

👍

[silver plinth]

Crownslayer skill priority?

Yes this is a question

[nimble kite]

100 pulls is 60k

[ivory terrace]

s3m3
also mod Y3

[nimble kite]

S3 only. And ModY3 is a must, otherwise will sucks ass in every turn!

[vital kelp]

who is ashalter

[left tulip]

Sash2 ?

[ivory terrace]

ye
"and her sister alter"

[vital kelp]

[left tulip]

I mean I see no other option

[jaunty eagle]

i forgot her name...its the recent lmited banner~

[left tulip]

Pramanix?

[jaunty eagle]

yes~

[left tulip]

See I was right

[vital kelp]

i do remember someone calling ela ash alter cuz its r6 recollab

[abstract mauve]

i see the vision

[jaunty eagle]

silver ash reign frost now i remember~

(opned arknights to check name)~

[wraith shoal]

Will the 1* from monhun be available to get again in the rerun?

[vital kelp]

yes, its from yato2 mission and yato2 event will rerun

guys should i pull yato2 for noiralter given i have yato2

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[nimble kite]

No, but I would for pots for her (We still advise against pots, I just want that 8 DP cost on my lovely FRDs)

[jaunty eagle]

a few years back..i lost the pull to win yato~

[wraith shoal]

Yato2 mission as in,like, it's like the other even welfares where you do x amount of stages and get him?

[jaunty eagle]

now ive been given the chance~

[vital kelp]

yeah

[lunar apex]

max pots yato is important for max diff IS

[nimble kite]

Texas too. I still have 8 Royal Spec Tokens to spare.

[jaunty eagle]

prob kalsit alter will force me~

[tepid abyss]

she is limited

[ivory terrace]

do it for base

[ivory terrace]

they mean the welfare TRC

[ancient lintel]

Wait monhun confirmed????

[vital kelp]

how good is the yato combo in base

[nimble kite]

With Rerun!

[jaunty eagle]

yes~

[wraith shoal]

I know, I was just asking about the 1 star cause i didn't know if he works like the other welfares

[ivory terrace]

41% from 3 catto in TP

[ancient lintel]

Dunno if I should be happy or sad 🥀
Wang and kal2 will drain me dry before yato2 🥀

[nimble kite]

Just skip those, ez.

[wraith shoal]

Plenty of time between wang and kal2

[left tulip]

Naaaah you got this bro you’re getting Kal on free pulls

[ivory terrace]

and yato2 and noir2 function as ur fac and tp boosters from cc

[jaunty eagle]

wang will go first?~

[ancient lintel]

Ur being unhelpful

[nimble kite]

[left tulip]

While I’m being hopeful

[paper swan]

10 pull and dip

[keen salmon]

x10 and a dream

[wraith shoal]

Just skillfully get them on your first tenroll

[ivory terrace]

just

[snow siren]

Will Closure be coming out this year?

[paper swan]

Should be around October or November

[ancient lintel]

Should be

[wraith shoal]

In around 6 months

[nimble kite]

Autumn

[paper swan]

During Global's 7th anniversary

[robust thistle]

uh no

[tepid abyss]

might in 11

[ivory terrace]

global anniv is CN summer now

[young glacier]

"Now" - since 2022

[jaunty eagle]

other than wang and kalter what other ops to know about~

in the near future~

[left tulip]

Titi Kochira Chen part 3 bellone closure

[vital kelp]

u missed zima2

[left tulip]

Aw right how could I, sorry zima

[young glacier]

I want Titi as a manifestation of healthy sleep schedule

[ancient lintel]

We only recall zima as an afk stats stic

[tepid abyss]

is there someone you like？

[wraith shoal]

We won't get this mate

[tepid abyss]

why？

[wraith shoal]

Cause they change it for us

[formal shadow]

y*star

[ivory terrace]

99.9% yostar change the lineup

[young glacier]

Does Ente module count as upcoming operator?

[left tulip]

Dont u dare disrespect her S3 like that

[tepid abyss]

what is your bannner now

[ancient lintel]

If they keep both leizi and pram in there then maaaaaaaybe, still kinda bait banner though
Pram > leizi imo

[wraith shoal]

Now we have basic standard banner,leizi2 and hoederer. But those pick 3 banners, they always change the lineup

[tepid abyss]

where ys change this ？for more money？

[vital kelp]

[wraith shoal]

They're just idiots.

[ivory rampart]

Can i buy rma70-12 from headhunting parametric medal?

[iron pelican]

Just got Ifrit from top op, should I build her?

[shadow bay]

sure

[iron pelican]

Whens this coming? I really want Entelaicha, Typhon and Pramalter

[tepid abyss]

she is not useful

[left tulip]

6-7 months

[shadow bay]

i mostly treat that shop as buy what u want, coz i happen to not use tokens in limited banners

[wraith shoal]

Don't get your hopes up

[tepid abyss]

after kalt2

[left tulip]

Or also never

[ivory rampart]

Okay thanks

[ivory terrace]

they will def change the lineup
bet they will put men

[young glacier]

Her main role is nerfing enemy RES stat. Do you have Arts operators who would like that?

[iron pelican]

I have 8 characters whom most are limited on my pull list yet I have 25 pulls and remain hopeful, I will remain optimistic

[iron pelican]

I got time, thank you Hg🥹

[pine plover]

@tepid abyss for example, this was previous orienteering banner comparison

CN orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Nymph, Narantuya, Mlynar, Stainless
Global orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Blaze2, Zuo Le, Swire2, Stainless