help

[quick jolt]

dont do s2 lol

[wraith sentinel]

I feel like Nethersea Brand is kind of rare though, barely in a handful of stages.

[neat kayak]

why?

[neat acorn]

Because

[quick jolt]

because s3 is her best skill

[undone portal]

broodmothers are definitely the more present threat

[broken flame]

-# Just M6

[iron dirge]

Why does Saria only need Mastery 1 for her S1 again

[quick jolt]

you can use s3 multiple times within one s2 cycle, AND its aoe

[wraith sentinel]

-# M9

[broken flame]

Just the sp breakpoint

[neat acorn]

M12 is always an option

[undone portal]

m1 drops sp cost from 5 > 4
going to m3 is just a slight numbers boost + 1 more stored charge (doesnt come up often)

[neat acorn]

That’s why I haven’t beaten is3🐀

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, though I do think Hoshiguma the Breacher (and SilverAsh the Reignfrost) work alright. Have had some success with Leizi as well.

[undone portal]

i should try is3 hoshialt

[neat acorn]

Which ops are the most used for is3

[shadow bay]

yeh sure bring an arts dps in a res buffed IS

[wraith sentinel]

Metastatic Hoshiguma is kinda funny.

[marble viper]

someone tell me how to use swire alt and is mod

[undone portal]

i cope marcille there on the regular ill be fine

[quick jolt]

angelina, weedy, exualt, trag, wis, lemuen, ela

[wraith sentinel]

Rat King.

[shadow bay]

marci have stuns in s2 yeh??? but still too expensive

[wraith sentinel]

I do think Pramanix works well too, her Movement Speed Reduction comes in handy a surprising number of times (plus free blockers sorta).

[neat acorn]

What’s the gimmick of is2

[quick jolt]

there kinda isnt one you just get bullshit debuff relics

[shadow bay]

random hallucinations every flr

yeh thats it rly...

[wraith sentinel]

Nervous Impairment. A shitton of it.

[broken flame]

Can they yeet their babies on the blue box

[marble viper]

debuffs galore

[shadow bay]

and ig u get poster randomly that can help ur run

[neat acorn]

Like is it optional I take these debuffs

[quick jolt]

no

[wraith sentinel]

But yeah, holy shit some of the debuff relics are a massive pain. I just reset if I get Half-Refined Diamond.

[quick jolt]

is2 is a mess, shouldve never been changed

[undone portal]

tl:dr she eats less dp for everything and gains coins faster, while reducing rdp time for whoevers closest to being ready again. use s3 as a laneholder/nuker option. mod gives you another reason beyond toy/chalice to hold onto ingots

[wraith sentinel]

(I like her S1 too to be a minitank.)

[limpid yarrow]

is2 is okay for staying at d0 😊
but playing on d15 the enemies have more buffs than you

[neat acorn]

What does that do

[iron dirge]

Low-key should just suck it up and use my vouchers on Surfer now ngl

But does Surfer need M3 on her S2 more than Shamare?

[limpid yarrow]

-70% xp from combat
bosses give 25x xp or something but it still sucks

[undone portal]

yea swirealt s1 is practically invincible against most enemies

[wraith sentinel]

Normal version is -50% Command EXP and the Reforged version is -70% (with 15x against Dreadful Foes).

[neat acorn]

[limpid yarrow]

i hope you like your starting squad 😊

[wraith sentinel]

Pretty much.

[pale tapir]

why are we m3 tila s2

[undone portal]

surfer s2 is doodoo, master s1
shamare s2 is probably your best gains here

[shadow bay]

why we would not master surfer s2

[quick jolt]

this is just petal bro wtf

[undone portal]

because it sucks

[iron dirge]

Oh I got S2 as her default skill lol

[pale tapir]

because I've seen one usecase for it ever

[limpid yarrow]

(is5 crystal mystery bosky)

[hexed adder]

And thats lv80 ticket

[undone portal]

Oh thats the lv80 ticket. ernesto/rafaela then

[iron dirge]

So
Lv80 Surfer but S2M3 Shamare

[neat acorn]

One is2 run won’t hurt me

[pale tapir]

why do u need to lv80 tila 😭

[neat acorn]

Any debuff that I should be scared off

[quick jolt]

yeah all of them

[undone portal]

highdiff is i suppose she needs the hp to survive in is6 ed2 i hear

[wraith sentinel]

Also Leithanien Scepter (Reforged) is a pain.

All enemy units have +35% ATK, DEF, and Max HP; Entering a new node decreases Life Point by 1 (cannot be reduced beneath 1 this way); When Life Point is below 3, all units have DP Cost +2 and SP recovery rate -20%.

[neat acorn]

Why can I just start from d3

[iron dirge]

So what do I use these vouchers on

[wraith sentinel]

Ethan S2 is good.

[quick jolt]

completed the easy mode before they updated the difficulties to match future themes

[undone portal]

ethan s2, shamare s2

[shadow bay]

tbh i mostly see m3 vouchers as skip tickets on operators, that ill likely to use, on skills that find painful to farm with

[quick jolt]

completing normal mode would let u start from d6 and completing hard mode would let u start from d9

[iron dirge]

But use Lv80 voucher on Surfer yeah?

[undone portal]

either surfer or tequila/lapluma depending on how sweaty youll be with highdiff is6

[shadow bay]

can do that... its just levels

optimally thought u want to jack it to dpses like tequila/pluma

[pale tapir]

phrasing

[broken flame]

Tequila cause it was his birthday a few days ago

[neat acorn]

And 4* still cost 2 hope goddammit

Who should I start with

[quick jolt]

i wish 3stars costed hope again in is7

[wraith sentinel]

Spot is great, I'm a fan of Steward too.

[shadow bay]

cringing even for spot draft

[undone portal]

fang/midnight/spot/kroos/steward/ansel/orchid/thrm-ex
thats the gist of it

[iron dirge]

Dude who tf do I replace for them anyways

First of I have Mlynar so what do I do with Tequila
Second that would mean I have to replace Thorns/Blaze for La Pluma

And I already plan on replacing one of them for Zuo Le

[neat acorn]

How old is is2

[wraith sentinel]

Adnachiel can be useful in some situations if you're using Lemuen, but otherwise mediocre.

[quick jolt]

came out on EN in 2022

[undone portal]

oldge. predates ch'2n if im remembering my ak history right

[quick jolt]

actually i think it came out on CN in 2022 too

[iron dirge]

Is her skill / damage actually useful or is it just for marking with her range

[broken flame]

marking

[wraith sentinel]

His, just for marking.

[broken flame]

Congrats on his transition

[undone portal]

similar idea applicable for drafting plume

[iron dirge]

Wait I feel like I'm confusing Ops rn

[shadow bay]

yeh like said its just optimal... if u have good dpses already u can put it to whoever

at the end of the day its just levels that give flat boost to ur ops... u would still m3 their skills if u plan to use them

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, though Plume is a lot more fragile. Haven't really tried Confess-47, I think I need more Potentials for better performance.

[quick jolt]

plume has dp refund too but she can get obliterated being placed close to some enemies

[broken flame]

Maybe you're thinking of Ambriel

[undone portal]

are you thinking of ambriel? adnachiels the team a4 boy with the tilted halo

[iron dirge]

FUCK I THOUGHT YOU MEANT AMBRIEL

[neat acorn]

Ye ngl I don’t think I’m beating this

[spark meadow]

https://x.com/mafurfurina/status/2056085603268129206?s=20

how many boosts does leumen get

mafurina (@mafurfurina)

lemuen and her greedy ass demanding two exusiais. hold your horses woman

X · May 17, 2026, 6:53 PM

[wraith sentinel]

Ambriel never really worth it because 2 Hope cost, unless you get Regional Action Plan or similar.

[torn sonnet]

Help... Why is her E2 art so big....

[undone portal]

ambriel s2 doesnt work for lemuen wanted permit btw. global range onskill doesnt change actual effective range

[static glade]

Big ass dragon around her

[quick jolt]

you had it right the first time its e2
and because it can be

[broken flame]

Kjeragandr

[wraith sentinel]

At least she keeps her original range on-skill, unlike Goldenglow.

[broken flame]

I need her to get an L2D skin asap

[shadow bay]

also its e2

[undone portal]

lemuen just gets the exu boost once for 45%
exualt just asks that a 3rd lateran be assigned as well, and exu1 is the best choice

[rocky pilot]

7 stars will have e3 trust

[torn sonnet]

Oh sorry mb I forgot base is e0 not e1

[spark meadow]

lmaoooo

[neat acorn]

I almost died on f0 because my spot died from ranged attackers

[wraith sentinel]

That's just regular IS experience though.

[neat acorn]

Scrap that I died on f0

[torn sonnet]

Are the range tiles different now that pram2 is e2?

[quick jolt]

wdym?

[broken flame]

tbf you have 0 upgrades and squads unlocked

[torn sonnet]

Her reach

[wraith sentinel]

E1 is the only actual range change, S3 gives a range expansion but that's it.

[undone portal]

snow doesnt spread to ranged tiles, if thats what you mean

[quick jolt]

oh, no

[iron dirge]

Honestly I wanna E2 Warfarin ngl

[quick jolt]

ops usually have their max base range at e1. i think theres some exceptions but i dont remember which

[undone portal]

far from the worst e2 5star pick honestly. go for it

[radiant mantle]

So do we have a consensus in regards to kalter's performance or value as a unit?

[iron dirge]

How far is Ptilopsis tho

[shadow bay]

something something u would see in elite promotions details, and skill descriptions if tied to it, how much they can reach if it said attack range expands

so unless indicated ther would be no changes whatsoever

[undone portal]

really fuckin good. will age well simply by virtue of being immortal against most threats and having a free redeploy button

[wraith sentinel]

Fortress Defenders for one, yeah.

[quick jolt]

worth pulling for now unless you 1. need trag from rerun and are gonna be short on pulls, or 2. better stuff releases

[broken flame]

incoming flying boss that needs to be blocked 🥀 /j

[undone portal]

honestly closer to the 'good' end than warfarin probably

[quick jolt]

ig probably only 2 banners worth pulling after wang for now are kalter and trag rerun

[broken flame]

Orienteering too, depending on who they keep

[undone portal]

theyll put invisible collector disciples in ccb5, just for you 😊

[quick jolt]

maybe

[radiant mantle]

Ic ic

[shadow bay]

question for is6

do yall frequently do combat in pathfinder nodes?

[quick jolt]

its generally best, yeah

[neat acorn]

Wait there are pathfinder nodes

[shadow bay]

even when u have multiple vouchers stored?

[quick jolt]

its the same value as an EM fight and you get candleguests out of it still

[quick jolt]

the trick is you dont store any at all

[shadow bay]

coz im only aware of the battle being

theres a tile, that if u put op on it they will be candleguest after success stage clear

[pale tapir]

I either use conserved vouchers there or send it in the fight

[quick jolt]

i still tell newbies who have 0 experience with the mode to just save their vouchers to use at pathfinder, but if you know what you're doing just take the fight

[neat acorn]

Is it me or did I not see those nodes

[quick jolt]

youll also just get a candleguest out of f1 shop everytime too

[shadow bay]

ahhh so people dont conserve vouchers frequently now?? coz i thought that hope reduced recruitment is big to draft better ops while lessening hope expenditure

[undone portal]

kal'alt will make ur-ex-8 a joke during rerun :real:

[quick jolt]

like previous themes there are draft priorities to save hope

is6 in general just gives you more hope than previous themes, excluding pathfinder

[neat acorn]

Who would I want to recruit in is2 if I could recruit anyone

[pale tapir]

I mean u can conserve vouchers and draft hella ppl but you can only bring so many in one fight
maybe it'd be helpful for ed4
of course this is not to say that you shouldn't conserve if saving hope and need candleguests

[undone portal]

is2 is kinda a wis'adel/lemuen playground

[shadow bay]

hmmm i see ig would try to lessen voucher conserve while taking combat option in pathfinders

[wraith sentinel]

Lemuen is pretty good, yeah. Got me to D15.

[quick jolt]

can consider taking the option at wonderland that uses 1 candle to use a saved voucher, however i try to avoid this completely or only do it once per run

[wraith sentinel]

She makes really good use of Dejected too if you get lucky enough to roll it.

[quick jolt]

you can also get candleguests out of scouts too although youll eat one for ed4 if you're doing that

[neat acorn]

Wow this merchant only sell 4 things

[radiant mantle]

Wang's pots are pretty good if I'm not mistaken? At least at a first glance. Because I'm thinking about sparking shu and yes I know it's a dumbass decision.

[wraith sentinel]

Invest to unlock more slots I think.

[quick jolt]

yeah he has very above-average pot gains

[neat acorn]

No like there is no investing this dude just sells 4 things

[wraith sentinel]

Investment doesn't always appear.

[neat acorn]

When do the debuffs start

[wraith sentinel]

Most of the debuff relics come from higher Difficulties.

[shadow bay]

hmmm i feel like sacrificing one candle for this can be a demerit

although ig if rich in candles(like that one squad that give more candle per bosky enter) can indulge this

[quick jolt]

yeah i avoid it but its a thing

[neat acorn]

I’m good then

[radiant mantle]

Alr then it won't hurt as much, thanks.

[wraith sentinel]

Anyway, biggest pain I find is Nervous Impairment, everything wants to stun everyone. Especially the prerequisite fight for Playwright.

[bright gust]

How good is Mon3tr new module?

[torn sonnet]

Wait what does pram2's e2 do again?

[neat acorn]

S3

[wraith sentinel]

Talent 2 and S3 unlock.

And Module.

[humble torrent]

Which 6 stars would be more beneficial for me to get thier s3 masteries first?

[torn sonnet]

Ah i see, nothing changes much on e1 right?

[pale tapir]

sunk cost fallacy lyudmila s3m3

[humble torrent]

Gives more attack buff to those near the green crystal +25% (+30% if max pot) iirc

[wraith sentinel]

Range expansion, S2 unlock and max Skill level increase (as usual) is quite important I'd say.

[torn sonnet]

Ok ok got it

I'll try to focus on getting her e2 next

[humble torrent]

Also ice floor does a bigger percent of her attack as art damage

[neat acorn]

Wait they have civilians in is2

[torn sonnet]

WHA- OPERATORS DELEVEL WHEN PROMOTED?!

[wraith sentinel]

It's just their level in that specific stage, none of their stats are lowered.

[quick jolt]

they dont lose their stats, and the level cap goes up

[wraith sentinel]

In some stages, yeah. Justice is the main one I think.

[torn sonnet]

So she technically still is lvl 50?

[quick jolt]

e2 lvl1 is a higher level than e1 max

[shadow bay]

nope

they just return to l1... but they are e2 already

[turbid ocean]

technically same level
the stats didn't change

[humble torrent]

No i think e2 level 1 is the same as e1 max

[quick jolt]

yeah bad example but yknow what i mean

[torn sonnet]

Oh I see. What's the next level cap?

[wraith sentinel]

Depends on rarity.

[quick jolt]

70/80/90 for 4/5/6stars, but just stop at 40/50/60 respectively

[neat acorn]

I died because I couldn’t protect the civilians

[quick jolt]

because past that is too expensive for the stat gain

[torn sonnet]

Pramalt

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah it is a bit of a pain, especially since one guy just drops in behind lines. And you need block count for some of the enemies.

[torn sonnet]

Ah...

[quick jolt]

so for pramalt just get her to lvl60 and stop, because the cost from 60-90 is nearly the same as getting a whole new 6star to e2

[broken flame]

Also don't E2 90 your operators btw just stop at E2 60 max (except for rare cases like Tragodia)

[neat acorn]

No it’s the slow dp gen of that stage

[wraith sentinel]

That too, mm.

[shadow bay]

inb4 he cant affort lvl 60 for 6 stars 🥹

[torn sonnet]

Ok ok

[pale depot]

what skill do i m3 for nian?

[quick jolt]

2

[hollow furnace]

About base 252 or 243 ? Which is easy to set up? I only see 243

[wraith sentinel]

If at all, yeah.

[wraith sentinel]

252 is better, not really a question of being easy to setup.

[quick jolt]

they're equally easy to setup and manage, which is a common misconception, and 252 is just better no matter what

[wraith sentinel]

(I heard 243 for optimal rotation requires more logins too.)

[hollow furnace]

So 2 trade post 2 powerplant 5 factory is 252 ?

[turbid ocean]

if you have the list of optimal ops built for 243 that is

which is unoptimal as hell given the ops are kind of suspicious usage

[hollow furnace]

I only have enough for one set up 😅 😅 no preset for now

My base got recently upgrade to lv 4 😅😅

[torn sonnet]

I'm starting to like pram2

[turbid ocean]

Would put in random ops or even bad ones for 2nd preset

just to have something to switch out to while main team rests

[magic dome]

Yeah Lvl90 is hust when you're rich. Better having lots of Lvl60 ops instead few Lvl90 ops

[quick jolt]

shes probably like, the most newbie friendly 6star out there

[normal apex]

i'm currently keeping nian, ling, and chongyue in my squad in otder to proc shu talent 2 but i pretty much only ever use shu and chongyue so im starting to think that essentially losing 2 operator slots just to get some sp might not be worth it. what do you guys think?

[torn sonnet]

Is it pram-two or pram-pram?

[quick jolt]

pram squared

[torn sonnet]

No like. Im starting to like her personality

[quick jolt]

good

[abstract blade]

skill 2 or in general

[quick jolt]

s2 mainly

like you literally just place her down and you're done and she performs great, for an afk op

[iron dirge]

Alright final call

who do I replace for Zuo Le

[stone karma]

thorns

[abstract mauve]

thorns

[quick jolt]

thorns or blaze

[magic dome]

Yeah S2, afk, like Haruka S2, Tragodia S2, Ulpiamus S2 and Hoshi alter S2 AFK squad.

[abstract blade]

when we get a rerun is the free op same as the original run's?

[iron dirge]

Ough my range attacks

[quick jolt]

more than half your team is ranged i dont think you need to worry

[wraith sentinel]

You have Sakiko, and almost everyone else.

[iron dirge]

dual Lords cuz I fuckin hate most flying heavy stages

[stone karma]

sonion you have sakiko

[magic dome]

I heard that Nasti is said to be god given for Ranged operators cuz can make tiles anywhere? And should go for it if you're into ranged operarors?

[abstract blade]

I feel like I need more ranged units. steward and the krooses just isnt cutting it for me. who should I build?

[shadow bay]

god given

[quick jolt]

you rarely need to create a better ranged tile than what you're already given, and at that point shes just a buffer. and like all buffers, why buff one operator when you can take a whole different dps op instead?

[neat kayak]

why is nasti considered bad?

[normal apex]

do you have meteor? she's decent

[iron dirge]

Click is good

you should show your ops btw so we have a better idea

[scenic wharf]

[quick jolt]

shes not bad shes just not needed

[abstract blade]

https://www.krooster.com/u/cool-ochre-yato-382j

[scenic wharf]

pram2 the greatest afk clearer of today

[iron dirge]

We just have really good banners coming up so it's not really recommended to pull for her

[shadow bay]

but what if i wanna play ranged ops only, and i need nasti... it will justify bringing her ye--

wdym... nasti is not a ranged unit so she cant be used???

[scenic wharf]

more like not necessary

[ivory rampart]

Guys what should i do daily aside from the main story?

[turbid ocean]

Don't upload unnecessarily here, channel rules in the pins

[abstract blade]

resource search

[magic dome]

Side stories

[shadow bay]

dailies mostly involve

base rotation
friend visit
credit shop
recruitment
and spend sanity(which u doin when u meant main story)

[broken flame]

And farm event if there's an ongoing one

[quick jolt]

falls under spend sanity

[ivory rampart]

What's base rotation?

[abstract blade]

click is good at focusing down specific targets right?

[quick jolt]

switching the ops that are working in your base so they arent dead and useless

[wraith sentinel]

Switching out one preset for another so they can recover morale.

[shadow bay]

like u attend ur base, collecting resources and rotating ops when they have 0 morale

[normal apex]

claiming factory output, claiming trade post output, putting tired operators in the dorms, etc

[torn sonnet]

Who's a good 6star that gives costs

[wraith sentinel]

Costs? Do you mean Vanguards?

[iron dirge]

She just does good damage

Mech accord Casters just get a bonus when they attack the same enemy with their drone

[ivory rampart]

Oh that i already do
What about is and reclamation algorithm?

[quick jolt]

like dp? deployment points?

[torn sonnet]

Yuh

[broken flame]

They don't cost sanity, so feel free to play them after you have nothing to do

[wraith sentinel]

Depends who you have.

[shadow bay]

ur free to do that whenever u want

they dont consume sanity and they dont rly have time limit

[quick jolt]

vanguards, you can screenshot all of yours and we'll tell you which to use

[torn sonnet]

I forgot what they're called like the ones with C+

[ivory rampart]

Okay

[torn sonnet]

No no, I'm just asking who so I can save up for them

[quick jolt]

i forgor closure existed nvm

[shadow bay]

add also annihilations that u need to do weekly

[normal apex]

most of the 6* vanguards are good tbh. I've used Saga, Saileach, silveralter, mumu, siege, ines, and bagpipe

[wraith sentinel]

Closure, kinda.

[proven kelp]

Closure

[ivory rampart]

And do i have to do all of the annihilation?
I did the permanent and weekly

[wraith sentinel]

Don't have to, but good first-clear rewards.

[ivory rampart]

Okay

[scenic wharf]

closure is quite nice

[quick jolt]

closure is a pretty good vanguard yeah

[normal apex]

if you're deciding who to save up for then its closure you want to wait for

[torn sonnet]

Are they offrate?

[scenic wharf]

true to herself you can literally go into dp debt

[formal shadow]

on banner, featured

[wraith sentinel]

No, new Operator in about five months.

[quick jolt]

shes the standard rateup on the next limited banner after wang, alongside kaltsit alter (limited)

[torn sonnet]

Damn... Aight

[normal apex]

she hasn't released yet, she'll release with esperanta in a couple of months. that's a good banner. pull as much as you please on it

[shadow bay]

weekly, ur first goal is raise cap to 1800

and after that u can clear the permanent ones whenever, past anni iteration only done once for the 1st clr rewards

[scenic wharf]

just use myrtle
highest usage op for a reason

[normal apex]

this is a truthnuke

[quick jolt]

myrtles reign of terror is over the second wanqing enters record restoration 🔥

[broken flame]

Do you have Surfer or Cantabile

[torn sonnet]

New to the game

[shadow bay]

oh yeh ofc u should also establish anni u can auto for the weekly (rotating one is recommended, but if cant auto... settle to anni 1 ,2 or 3) after rasing cap

[wraith sentinel]

5*, too expensive.

[ivory rampart]

I did the permanent one
There's also annihilation which shows 2 weeks
Will the reward reset then?

[scenic wharf]

doubt

[torn sonnet]

These my only 6 stars

[iron dirge]

Honestly uh
What's Surfer's niche in IS again cuz I just dislike her S1

[scenic wharf]

too many years of compounded content of clears featuring myrtle

[quick jolt]

she scales very well with aspd

[abstract blade]

guys should I build mel? is blocking one specific elite enemy important?

[wraith sentinel]

Why do you dislike her S1.

[quick jolt]

they probably forget to retreat her

[wraith sentinel]

She's a statstick, and a 3* one at that. You have better Operators to build.

[shadow bay]

thats probably permanent ones... like said, past iterations only done for first clear rewards

they also rotate frequently so if u happen to missed clearing them u can just wait for them to pop out again

[normal apex]

bagpipe and Myrtle are best friends. if you have them together you'll never need more DP

[ivory rampart]

Okay thanks for the help

[abstract blade]

are 1-block operators in general important?

[torn sonnet]

Anyways while I wait for sanity to recover, I'mma play endfield

[quick jolt]

bagpipe is quite unnecessary

[wraith sentinel]

No, unless you're doing some schizo strategy.

[formal shadow]

as long as they kills good and fast and numerous

[torn sonnet]

Myrtle is a limited?

[quick jolt]

and i really wouldnt suggest prioritizing her for a newbie

[iron dirge]

Nah I just don't like retreat mechanics it's why I haven't really used ExuAlter S3

Lazy

[wraith sentinel]

No, 4* and cheap to build.

[formal shadow]

wang wisadel trag is 1block n theyre good so

[torn sonnet]

Lemme see if I have her

[wraith sentinel]

...

[iron dirge]

Too lazy to retreat I keep Ines and SilverAshAlter onfield usually

[wraith sentinel]

...

[ivory rampart]

One more thing
Do i have to use training apparatus which i get on day 14 on silverash from day 5 transfer permit?

[broken flame]

retreat mechanics?...

[quick jolt]

its for 5stars, so no

[harsh marsh]

Whats the criteria for an operator to be kernel, Do they have to be 4 years old from now?

[iron dirge]

idk what else to call it cuz her ability just lasts a set while and then you retreat them if you wanna use her S1 again

[ivory rampart]

Okay

[quick jolt]

they just send them in batches based on release order. gnosis is the newest op in kernel rn, you can check who released after him and probably like 5-7 of them will go next

actually, has kernel been updated on CN yet?

[shadow bay]

oh yeh, do people in cn get another recruitment update after kaltsit?

[normal apex]

having wisadel and hoshigumalter as my 2 support operators on my profile kinda makes me feel like that scene in toy story where buzz lightyear sees all the other shelves of buzz lightyears. what 6* support operators do people want to see more often?

[iron dirge]

ExuAlter lol

[quaint valve]

Hey2. Just wanted to get insights on this mastery, quick yes and no is good enough.

1. Sash2, S1 and/or S2 (honestly i never use S2)
2. Tragodia, S1
3. Wisadel, S1 and/or S2
4. Leizi2, S1 and/or S3
5. Texas2, S1 and/or S2 (i heard there is good synergy with Sash2 S2)

Context: ive done their core skill, now i got nothing much to do.

[quick jolt]

i try to put operators that most people dont have on support, because naturally all the top meta ops will be flooded on support and easy to find

[lyric lagoon]

the other members of the top 4, pram2, haruka, collab 6*s, etc.

lots of criterias for what people can want on support depending on the person

[torn sonnet]

Are crossover skins true limiteds?

[quick jolt]

1. only s2
2. no
3. only s2
4. only s1
5. only s2

[pallid basin]

Should i E2 thorns when hes the only lord guard i have as a 6 star

[quick jolt]

for trag, if you havent done s3, can consider it

[wraith sentinel]

Leizi S3 can be good though.

Just M9 her.

[normal apex]

yeah his skill 3 is really good and versatile

[quick jolt]

most people will literally never use leizi s3 ever

[iron dirge]

Yeahh only really useable with S3 so go for it

[slim tusk]

depends on what other unit you have
being lord guard doesn't matter

[shadow bay]

1. nope... only commit when u think ull use it, just stick to s3m3
2. same case as 1st.. only heard it have some niche uses
3. can do s2 if let say playing is5 or a stage u can maximize it... s1 only done when doing afk setups and want it m3
4. s3 have use case so sure, s1 depends if ull use it
5. s1 no, s2... doubt ull use that skill in 2026

so inshort, m3 the skill u wann use lol

[opaque remnant]

“Really good” is a bit of an overstatement

[broken flame]

1. Yes for S2 but only if you use it a lot, lowprio tho
2. Not really
3. No, but S2 is fine if gonna use
4. Good M9 candidate so mastery her skills as you see fit depending on what you use after S2M3
5. S2 can do

[shadow bay]

to note

s2 masteries for sashter have poor gains so if ur poor u can stick to sl7

[wraith sentinel]

If they don't use all her Skills they don't deserve to use her.

[normal apex]

i mean he's no wisadel but he has good damage output and you can kinda always use him. i don't use him much nowadays but i used to use him all the time

[silver smelt]

🍅🍅🍅boo get m3

[lyric lagoon]

me when you can just place any of the 30+ other better operators that can kill enemies before he can even get one s3 activation up

[shadow bay]

i have it m3... im just laying out for him to consider

[quick jolt]

just say its decent before an unnecessary argument over the definition of "good" starts

[broken flame]

tldr is really just what you will use

[pallid basin]

Mlynar, exu alt, tragodia and some 4 stars healers and defenders

[shadow bay]

i know how defective this chat is cringing for using skills that dont have triangles

[silver smelt]

exu alt

[iron dirge]

How does S3 for SilverAshAlter work

Like the ability itself not the cost swapping
The summon ability
I need more detail for it

[harsh marsh]

Recently got Narantuya, the prio to mastery is her S2 and S3 right?

[shadow bay]

s3 only

[quick jolt]

just s3

[harsh marsh]

Thanks

[iron dirge]

Does it refund its own DP cost?

Also does it take the attack stat from the Operator or just copies SilverAshAlter's attack?

[wraith sentinel]

It refunds its own DP cost, yes.

[robust thistle]

pretty sure it doesnt refund itself
its just a second hit

[shadow bay]

it doesn't say stat swap so nope

just the dp

i mean imagine having 3 dp penance but also having stats of let say lancet

[wraith sentinel]

The Eye of the Blizzard does pretty sure if you deploy it manually.

[undone portal]

refunds itself on deploy. you do need to actually be holding onto 19dp to be able to deploy
deploys onto another allied unit. that unit also sends out silverash s3 slashes, with the same atk/interval he uses

[lyric lagoon]

normal attacks become ranged, reveal camo enemies, and inflicts fragile

the one from his summon just does the same thing as what was mentioned above, just pointing on the direction of the operator you place it on instead

[shadow bay]

wierd to say penance but ehhh... i just know juggs are expensive af

[lyric lagoon]

the dp gen is separate from the attacks themselves, they don't gen dp

[robust thistle]

it does? huh maybe I just didnt pay attention

[wraith sentinel]

(It can deploy itself automatically too so it makes sense.)

[lyric lagoon]

the first operator deployed after sash activates s3 automatically gains the summon as well

[undone portal]

yea, if you dont manually place the summon it deploys automatically on the first op you deploy during his skill duration

[quaint valve]

Cool, thx for the insights, really helpful

[quick jolt]

no problem

[broken flame]

Sash2 S3 probably one of my favorite skills ever

[wraith sentinel]

I think if you retreat the operator with the Eye you can redeploy the Eye as well?

[robust thistle]

not endfield server

[shadow bay]

wrong chat

[lyric lagoon]

wrong server

[undone portal]

48sec of laneholding/invis reveal/fragile is really nice

[pseudo flume]

Endfield server

[broken flame]

Got lost 🥀

[ivory terrace]

u can do that regardless no?

[torn sonnet]

Fuck sorry....

[iron dirge]

You can only deploy the bird once right?
So if you redeploy it on another Op the current Op stops getting the S3?

[broken flame]

and 33 dp print

[lyric lagoon]

they mean like regaining the "first deployed op gains eye of blizzard summon" back after retreating, which isn't a mechanic

[slate ridge]

you can deploy the bird infinite times

[undone portal]

bird can only be at one spot at a time. it has a 15sec rdp time so you can reposition it a few times before his skill ends. more often if you get rdp reductions like in is

[lyric lagoon]

the first deploy automatically gaining the bird after s3 is only once per skill activation, but you can deploy bird as many times as you want as long as the skill is active

[slate ridge]

weirdge i cant pause deploy Tenzin hm

[iron dirge]

Yeah I meant that

You can only switch bird locations but you can never have multiple birds

[pseudo flume]

Honestly is this the effect of the tourists in Endfield conflating Endfield as Arknights not knowing or blatantly being ignorant of the Original Game

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, cause sash only has 1 bird anyways

[robust thistle]

you sure?

[broken flame]

-# Does he

[undone portal]

shika was asking vanilla ak questions earlier
i think its fair to confuse this as a catch-all server for both games if youre plagued with the en curse and dont see the official ef discord link ingame

[iron dirge]

Imagine lol
Silverash get more birds we gotta upscale you

[pseudo flume]

Online Discussions outside Discord talking about Arknights but when looking inside its Endfield 🥀

[undone portal]

arknights hashtags flooded with endfield art :realmad:

[quick jolt]

it does genuinely pmo

[tepid abyss]

endfile is also bored

[wraith sentinel]

Tested and it does work, but only from the second activation (onwards) apparently. Could redeploy it without cooldown.

[iron dirge]

Honestly I got too busy with other games to continue Enfield FUUUCKKK

It includes this game btw

arking my knights too hard

[tepid abyss]

Log in for five to ten minutes each day for daily routines, then log off.

[pseudo flume]

Arknights dailies are fairly quick tbh

[robust thistle]

well good thing this isnt endfield server

[pseudo flume]

Just Wuwei has said it's usually within 10 mins to do it

[nimble kite]

I do my Endfield dailies within 5 min

[slate ridge]

can PC pause deploy Tenzin ?
used my mobile 2 strats neither worked

[abstract blade]

whats endfield even about story-wise?

[tepid abyss]

I've collected all the map rewards.

[pseudo flume]

I mean I do too but 🤫

[nimble kite]

#off-topic

[wraith sentinel]

What lies beyond the Cosmic Gate.

[tepid abyss]

so have nothing to do

[static glade]

No Reunion, Sarkaz = don't read rn, wait till 2 years

[iron dirge]

Mod X for Zuo Le?

[robust thistle]

x3 or bust

[pseudo flume]

Sanctuary mod ya

[tepid abyss]

By the way, did you guys copy strategies for building your infrastructure?

[iron dirge]

What minimum level tho

[robust thistle]

3

[abstract blade]

can dodges cause a desync when auto deploying?

[pseudo flume]

For Stronghold I just did whatever because my luck is shit

[robust thistle]

it could pretty sure
any kind of rng can deviate in auto

[wraith sentinel]

RNG seeds are saved for auto-deploys, so only if a frame drops I think.

[iron dirge]

Fuck uh what part of the event section is this

[robust thistle]

chongyue

[static glade]

Say mountain dodge a patriot one hit, auto deploy and he's not so lucky,
Y E S

[pseudo flume]

My highest stack was around 400 and I can't get past that because shit luck

[wraith sentinel]

Through the Ages, Sui.

[static glade]

The one with a free JieYun

[undone portal]

auto deploy saves dodge rng iirc

[pseudo flume]

Vernal Winds

[tepid abyss]

999 is very depends on your luck

[static glade]

Yeah where vernal winds will never blow

[iron dirge]

Still need to do PramanixAlter Mod soon fuuckkk

I'm gonna try focusing on story rn before doing more Mods ngl

[tepid abyss]

Objectively speaking, Sherag is the easiest to achieve 999.

[pseudo flume]

Shit against the boss though 🥀

[static glade]

Ed Sheerag

[proven kelp]

Only when your device heated up or something that cause it to deploy units slower to cause a different rng seed to generate

Tldr don't have a shit device

[iron dirge]

Saria worth getting Module for or

[static glade]

But not everyone can afford good phones, we're brokies

[undone portal]

y1 for the dmg reduction

[tepid abyss]

999 hit the boss only need 10 Second

[abstract blade]

holy shit auto deploy has the same rng seed??? wtf?

[pseudo flume]

It saves unless you lag

Or upgraded the operator

[quick jolt]

honestly auto deploys should just save the stats used at the time of the recording

[tepid abyss]

natsi event ex8 is a little hard

[rapid mason]

so you can add +1 lvl to operaotor do refresh seed?

[pseudo flume]

I haven't done a co-op Stronghold tbh, I lag too much

[wraith sentinel]

Even then I think it only changes if the ability has a different trigger chance than it had originally? Not sure.

[pseudo flume]

Its very noticeable when you upgraded a skill

Lvls I don't think its that noticeable unlesss it's a huge difference from the original

[tepid abyss]

but ordinary is still easy

[pseudo flume]

Yeah Yellow and Orange is pretty manageable

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, it comes down to enemy kill speeds and such probably then.

[pseudo flume]

Red Difficulty is Highrolling at its best

[tepid abyss]

remember not to put many operaters when you face boss

[pseudo flume]

Don't you need 6 for a full faction buff?

[tepid abyss]

she will let them fall

[pseudo flume]

Oh Nasti

Does Leizi2 just kill herself when she falls down to activate skill

[static glade]

Really lame it doesn't do that and if you got mod1 and upgrade it later it stays mod1 talk about weird rules

[lyric lagoon]

just hoshi2 + high ground dps op duo clear

[tepid abyss]

i think it's yes

[wraith sentinel]

I think it would be nice if it at least showed the original lineup for stuff like CMs, I can never remember what I did sometimes.

[static glade]

Rn Raidian and Zuo Le are efficient in clearing farm stages which is nice ig

[pseudo flume]

Buns well there goes that Idea

[tepid abyss]

only the flay operaters can survive When the ground falls

[floral loom]

https://krooster.com/u/swordbomb101
What are the best Operators for me to work on?

[wraith sentinel]

Work on your Skill levels.

[tepid abyss]

so although leizi is survive but she can use skill

[opaque remnant]

Why are your skill levels to sl7 min…

[robust thistle]

sakiko pramanix ulpian zuo le
thats some horrid skill levels

[tepid abyss]

can't use skill

[iron dirge]

When do you not wanna use S1 for Saria anyways

[robust thistle]

always?

oh not, when you need the other stuff on her other skill

[opaque remnant]

Very niche stuff for S3, s2 is useless

[iron dirge]

I gotta use S2 for her Module rn

[robust thistle]

do you?

[iron dirge]

Gotta beat 5 stages while using S2

[wraith sentinel]

Heart of Surging Flame (all the normal stages cost 0 Sanity).

[floral loom]

WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET THAT LAST REPHASIC ENANTIOMER

[ivory terrace]

mod Y yes
5 stages where u use s2 3x each

[robust thistle]

oh right module mission

[robust thistle]

cant you just craft it

[random shard]

Should get familiar with #bot-spam /baseskills and make your base operational

[wraith sentinel]

Probably not far enough.

[floral loom]

The CEU's I get out of spending way to much time in

[robust thistle]

chapter 15 is very accessible

[floral loom]

Sir
Sir I am in chapter 4

[robust thistle]

you can go to chapter 15

[wraith sentinel]

(I personally think it is kinda dumb that the game 'encourages' to skip.)

[robust thistle]

if it doesnt let you skip then people will complain that their shiny new characters are gated behind 14 chapters to raise

[wraith sentinel]

They shouldn't lock it behind those chapters in the first place.

[robust thistle]

well its supposed to be a gradual progression

[ivory terrace]

not much sense to flood the first 4 chapters with more sub stages anyway

[robust thistle]

but people are impatient so they made a compromise

[opaque remnant]

(Agreed)

[wraith sentinel]

Better than in the fifteenth.

[random shard]

It's really not about impatient. Newer operators need the new mats. Locking then is fairly dumb

[robust thistle]

then they'll have to add a lot of sub stages for chapter 4

[random shard]

If all the old shits in kernal where we tell people not to pull it has to be accessible somehow

[wraith sentinel]

That's fine. Great even. You don't even need to clear full substage lines to progress story.

[robust thistle]

well for all intents and purposes, they dont wanna do that, or they cant do that

[ivory terrace]

except u can skip 4

[floral loom]

It took me so long to get as far as I have because the game lied to me so hard about my story progress that I kept giving up on story

[ivory terrace]

never did since like the 2nd

[dark delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui6Qoi3Dr5s&list=PLNgrku2z_iBnGRIfwsFoTtZMi7A0mVDFx&index=69
In this video is Ulpi is used and a Pitlopsis, any replacement for these WHile I can support a ascalon a good replacement will be great too??

[ivory terrace]

there is an easy afk equivalent

[floral loom]

Episode 2 has more substages than real stages

[dark delta]

I feel that the Ops I have can easyliy clear the annhilation

without having to do the tedious stuff

SO Im just looking for a few replacements

[wraith sentinel]

Episode 3 onwards they split the nodes into separate lines.

[floral loom]

WHICH I AM VERY HAPPY ABOUT

[robust thistle]

do you have an actual question or are you lost getting to #1211614253354852362

[wraith sentinel]

They did post their krooster asking for build suggestions.

[robust thistle]

we did answer them

[floral loom]

TIME TO DO 16 ROUNDS OF GUARD DUALCHIP FARMING

[robust thistle]

work on your base workers first, and work on your pramanix first since shes already e1 max

[floral loom]

Base workers?

[broken flame]

do you have Pram2

[floral loom]

Do I need specific ops for that?

[robust thistle]

/base and /baseworkers in #bot-spam
its passive income

[floral loom]

I've just been cycling random guys with the right color Icon

[dark delta]

nope but I can support it

[robust thistle]

at least you have better critical thinking than most people you ask here

[dark delta]

tbh I just wanna learn how to replace operators

[robust thistle]

what does that mean

[static glade]

????

[floral loom]

Is running 7 fast redeploy operators and Sash2 a valid strat btw

[robust thistle]

sure why not

[dark delta]

like lets say some guy uses a strong 6 star op which I dont have so I wanna learn how I can use the ops I do have to use in that stead

[robust thistle]

you do trial and error

[static glade]

By thinking

[robust thistle]

what else is there to it, the game doesnt just hand out answers to you

[ivory terrace]

just borrow and find out

[wraith sentinel]

See what operators can fulfil about the same role, and slowly rework your own strategy.

[floral loom]

Are higher level LMD stages actually more sanity efficent?

[wraith sentinel]

Yes, but still not worth doing.

[broken flame]

ctto: Tranquil

[ivory terrace]

yes
but still less than passive income

[dark delta]

dont bother to farm them

[tepid abyss]

many is difficult to replace

[dark delta]

I feel bad for the enemies

[tepid abyss]

like pram2

[scenic wharf]

theres people clearing cc high risk with only specialists so

[floral loom]

HOW DO I GET THE MILLIONS OF LMD I AM BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE THEN??

[robust thistle]

base

[ivory terrace]

passive income

[scenic wharf]

base

[dark delta]

factory and afk

[broken flame]

Base income, event shops, IS, RA, touching grass

[wraith sentinel]

Base should be providing 50k+ LMD per day.

[robust thistle]

do you like, not actually listen to what people are saying

[tepid abyss]

what do you call it

[floral loom]

How in the hell??

[robust thistle]

well obviously if your base is like, terrible and produces like 10k per day its fine to farm LMD stages to get some starting funds for base

[nimble kite]

Play IS bro.

[floral loom]

10K A DAY?

[static glade]

Construction site

[robust thistle]

and like I said, read /base and /baseworkers in #bot-spam

[tepid abyss]

Cc？

[nimble kite]

RA

[robust thistle]

the people here kindly made a neat, clear, and concise guide on what to do for base
please go read them

[ancient lintel]

Once you have high quality workers it's the norm ye
U can get up to 70-80 if u micro manage it further

[ivory terrace]

40k daily average is baseline

[tepid abyss]

what is ra

[ivory terrace]

100k if u wanna sweat

[wraith sentinel]

Contingency Contract (CC) and Reclamation Algorithm (RA).

[floral loom]

I am getting 6000

[static glade]

Some days you get 70k+ lmd which is like a dream

[ancient lintel]

That infamous 1M LMD per day screenshot

[tepid abyss]

i know this new event is easy but bored

[static glade]

You can never have enough LMD in this godforsaken game

[ancient lintel]

Ur a brokie then

[ivory terrace]

unless u just never e2 anybody u get

[floral loom]

What mat farm stages are worth getting to max level?

[robust thistle]

what does that mean

[tepid abyss]

However, you can get many rewards.

[scenic wharf]

all of them because originite first clear

[static glade]

I think he meant max stage like CE-5 yk yk

[floral loom]

I know the chips are

[robust thistle]

well all of them, for first clear

[static glade]

Red certs and building blocks

[lavish forum]

can i block quilon with tragodia's cage of chaos?

[broken flame]

You just replace them with ops that can do the same role. If you need slow, then someone that do that, or simply kills enemies to not need that, etc.
And ofc replacing ops also mean you also think about if the same tile placement is right for them in a stage or you need to adjust. You just do trial and error and you'll get experience eventually and it'll be second nature to you.

[tepid abyss]

i thinkRA2 is easy but still bored

[ivory terrace]

higher ones are more sanity efficient

building mats tho

[floral loom]

Are the EXP farms also not worth it?

[robust thistle]

your base can make it out of thin air

[nimble kite]

Reclamation Algorithm, that's how this gamemode called.

[ivory terrace]

even less than farming LMD from CE stage

[static glade]

Way better lmd and exp options, but im too lazy so I just clear CE-5 and LS-5

[dark delta]

what is that a new thing for the shite gamemode ?

[robust thistle]

its actually LS

[tepid abyss]

yes

[static glade]

Oh wait yeah, I thought tactical drill meant TD, I'm dum

[floral loom]

Anyway time for even more trying to get guard chippacks

[tepid abyss]

However, at least getting the reward was much easier this time.

[ivory terrace]

u never tried 6?

[tepid abyss]

i get all reward by four days by hand

[nimble kite]

I just wanna remind ya, what IS Battlepass is holding.

[static glade]

Wait mb there are 6 stages right, I js press auto deploy the last stage

[dark delta]

btw I tried useing pramanix on paddy feild annhilation her frost floor thing didnt spread is this bcz of water tiles of something ?

[static glade]

Max 20 tiles

[ancient lintel]

Didnt remember she can spread them infinitely lol

[nimble kite]

Umm, maybe device that divine water source is actually blocking path to snow or what are you talking about? Her snow has cap on spreading.

[dark delta]

oh ok got it

[tepid abyss]

feild won't stop snow

[dark delta]

haruka dosnt count a healer right ?

[wraith sentinel]

She's a Supporter, yeah.

[static glade]

Well she is duh

[broken flame]

She's a healer but she's not a medic

[urban sleet]

Whats the context

[dark delta]

no medic or defenders allowed

[tepid abyss]

but her healing is good

[wraith sentinel]

She's fine.

[urban sleet]

Yes you can bring her

[ivory terrace]

supporter healer

[dark delta]

ok thanks

[wraith sentinel]

Won't count for stuff like Episode 16 miners (or IS stuff) but otherwise generally not an issue.

[static glade]

Also why do we have more healing classes like bards or abjurerers when an entire medic class exists, so weird smh

[tepid abyss]

forEP16.how do you see H16-4

[wraith sentinel]

Annoying, but Liskarm's invis reveal saved me.

[robust thistle]

do you like not getting a medic voucher in IS

[wraith sentinel]

I'm assuming the relic Bend Spears – Bloodbath (Guard Operators restore 2 SP after each attack) only activates on actual attacks and not damage instances?

[robust thistle]

it procs on any damage instance

[static glade]

I don't mind vouchers I js want to wisadel and Pram2 everything

[wraith sentinel]

Oh, would it work on Skill damage like say Leizi S1?

[robust thistle]

it works on mlynar reflect so

[urban sleet]

Leizj2's off skill lightning strikes counts for it

[limpid yarrow]

it works on leizi thunderbolts from Passive

[wraith sentinel]

Oh nice, thanks a lot.

[robust thistle]

also, SP lockout exists

[wraith sentinel]

Hmm, does that exist for Skills with charges?

[robust thistle]

does her bar turn orange

thats the sp lockout

[tepid abyss]

why i don't see many new players here

[slate ridge]

theres only like 10 ops that can bypass sp lockout

[static glade]

We ate them all

[urban sleet]

I fed them to my dog

[tepid abyss]

[wraith sentinel]

Ah it does, for a short moment, forgot that it did.

[tepid abyss]

ok do you have any problems in titi event

[robust thistle]

?

[wraith sentinel]

Hasn't happened on global yet.

[static glade]

Haven't played it yet how would I know

[sleek finch]

most "instant activation" skill has sp lock down duration of 1s and can be faster/slower depend on aspd buff ye
the main skills without sp lock down is pioneer s1 and similar

[tepid abyss]

Is there anything you'd like to know beforehand?

[robust thistle]

no?

[static glade]

The nasty welfare is cairn right, is she good

[robust thistle]

I dont think people know she exists

[static glade]

Whaaaat

[tepid abyss]

titi？

[ivory terrace]

nasti event

[static glade]

Nasty

[tepid abyss]

She's a support character; she can create titles and restore skill points.

[robust thistle]

...

[static glade]

[safe tundra]

[severe crypt]

Google Translate shenanigans strike again

[static glade]

Omg poor foreign guy, bless you

[tepid abyss]

To be honest, it's not very useful.

[robust thistle]

no thats not what theyre asking

[dark delta]

Im such a dumbass I skipped over the part where haruka's skill becomes perm active 😭

[robust thistle]

the first step towards being smarter is admitting youre stupid first

[slate ridge]

isnt Cairn gacha

[robust thistle]

I think that speaks volumes on what people think of cairn

[safe tundra]

[tepid abyss]

Look at my choice.

[static glade]

OH MB, YEAH I forgot the lizard dude was the welfare and cairn is gacha, are they both good

[robust thistle]

?

[static glade]

Can I have your Wang

[proven kelp]

[robust thistle]

what are we supposed to do with this information

[fleet sphinx]

So many new

[dark delta]

when will wisadel show up in event shop?

[robust thistle]

never

[severe crypt]

You mean spark shop?

[static glade]

Kalt'tsit alter banner

[fleet sphinx]

Will we have a starwars Collab?

[robust thistle]

none of us here works at HG

[tepid abyss]

kalt2

[fleet sphinx]

Free laborer?

[robust thistle]

I dont think thats also an aprropriate question for this channel

[tepid abyss]

i think you can get him

[static glade]

Chill we aren't trying to end up in jail for leaking

[fleet sphinx]

Okay...

[dark delta]

so how many months is that ? enough time to save up 160k Orundum ?

[robust thistle]

6 months

[severe crypt]

Obligatory please don’t spark

[dark delta]

also Ascalon or Logos since they will show up on gold cert?

[turbid ocean]

Avoid uploading unnecessary media

[robust thistle]

ask again when they show up

[tepid abyss]

i think you will new it in the future

i just put it early

[robust thistle]

we already know

[turbid ocean]

We follow CN news don't worry

[fleet sphinx]

Should I get nasti?

[robust thistle]

no

[tepid abyss]

she will return

[turbid ocean]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[tepid abyss]

but wang won't back

[static glade]

Don't get Nasti, she's so Nasty will make dudes go Nah Steve and Nahs T

[ancient lintel]

Would be nice if platform does affect enemy pathing lol

[fleet sphinx]

Can her tiles be broken?

[tepid abyss]

it can only add you attack

[ancient lintel]

They can I believe

[rain forge]

yep

[wanton meadow]

Like mechanically creating a roadblock that doubles as highground? That'd be so broken even if it's slow

[rain forge]

if it’s in the pathing of say a boss then expect it to go bye bye

[ancient lintel]

I mean artificial roadblocks would be nice lol

[rigid basalt]

I think I'm dumb. I can't seem to unpollute the water?

[wanton meadow]

That's gonna cheese so many stages lmao

[wraith sentinel]

All the pump input sources are polluted too.

[tepid abyss]

only the clean water can poll dirty water

[fleet sphinx]

The water behind the pump needs to be clean

[rain forge]

Remember: pour clean water in, don’t dump dirty water out

[ancient lintel]

Either u lock them all inside the middle pond and purify that or let them go out and use water in the middle to purify other parts bruh

[rigid basalt]

Ohhhh. You have to use clean water to unpollute dirty water, not just pump out dirty water?

[ancient lintel]

U polluted every pond, ofc u cant purify shi

[robust thistle]

person discovers how water flow works

[rain forge]

Did you not read the tutorial

[rigid basalt]

I did

[ancient lintel]

Bro skipped HS-TR-1 definitely XD

[rain forge]

clearly you didn’t

[rigid basalt]

That's why I said I think I'm dumb

[robust thistle]

like the bottom lane is literally 2 pools of sewage doing a 69

[rain forge]

[ancient lintel]

Also there's that guy who sucks water up and shoot them at u so if he sucks dirty water up and shoots it at clean water it'll pollute the clean water

Mylnar would do wonders with his taunt XD

[rigid basalt]

I used to be big brain and max risked CC, but I just recently came back to the game and I am a double amnesia doctor who forgot how to read

[fleet sphinx]

Also there are grey tiles that separate the dirty water from the clean water. Try defending those by placing an operator behind or in front of it. It gets dirty because some enemies release the sewerage water

[rigid basalt]

Thank you

[steel heath]

is eyjafjalla the hvit aska good or shld i just reroll?

[robust thistle]

huh?

[steel heath]

the character

[robust thistle]

how are you even getting her

[steel heath]

previously played n roll her for fun bc a friend recc me this game

[robust thistle]

shes not exactly a good starter, shes a good healer but healers dont win stages

if you want to reroll, aim for leizi in the standard banner

[steel heath]

aight so ill just wait for the new banner to rerolli presume?

[robust thistle]

nasti isnt good either

[steel heath]

i saw the upcoming banner for silverash alter and pramanix alter so ill prob reroll then

[nimble kite]

Should play on SilverAlter, yeah.

[tame yarrow]

uhh its over

[wanton meadow]

You're like half a month late

[robust thistle]

arent you late by 1 month

[opaque remnant]

what server?

[nimble kite]

You missed that opportunity, that banner is long time over.

[steel heath]

oh oops

[robust thistle]

??? where are you even seeing this upcoming banner

[nimble kite]

Yeah, oops.
Now you wait for Wang in Summer if you wanna reroll good.

[steel heath]

which event is the next good event to reroll, alsosaw it in the pin comments so prob its outdated lmao

[robust thistle]

standard banner, leizi

that is if you want to play now, or wait for another 2 months if you really only want cream of the crop

[wintry steppe]

Bro just saw silver alter event from ads by now 😭

[robust thistle]

the pins dont even have SAlter and pramalt

[steel heath]

saw this msg

[robust thistle]

oh you mean the banner priority

[steel heath]

yup

[robust thistle]

well yes thats a bit outdated

[rain forge]

who knows maybe they’re in the TW server

[static glade]

Oh uh for orienteering banner after Wang it's Haruka/Ascalon/Logos right

[opaque remnant]

subject to change

it's like how they botched the orienteering before this

[static glade]

Oh rip

[abstract blade]

is texas good?

[opaque remnant]

did you do the pinboard missions?

[humble lava]

what's the easiest strat to get 100 points aegir/sargon?

[abstract blade]

no. one of them requires leveling up right side of base

[opaque remnant]

better asked in #stronghold-hall for strategies

[opaque remnant]

alright, they're just an afkbot with S1 for anni, and that's about it

[abstract blade]

whats anni

[opaque remnant]

annihilation?

[coarse heron]

may I know which stage do y'all farm rocks?

[abstract blade]

oh ok. gotcha

[opaque remnant]

1-7

[coarse heron]

oh okay, is it recommended if i just throw all my expiring sanity potions there?

[abstract blade]

do we know who's gonna be in future kernel banners?

[safe tundra]

its the last resort

if you need something from supply stages (red cert, chip)
or need to clear main story
prioritize them before 1-7

[opaque remnant]

highest sanity efficiency, though if you're still somewhat new, it's better to grind mats needed for base, ops, etc

[coarse heron]

alright got it thankss

[nimble kite]

It's pinboard mission. Do not!

[safe tundra]

if you got 0 rocks in an event period, no harm spending few green cert on the rocks directly

[opaque remnant]

erm...

[abstract blade]

is there anyone in the kernel pool I should look out for?

[opaque remnant]

wait for kernel selecting, you'll get news on who's decent

[nimble kite]

@proven kelp give the cute Kernel ops list.

[safe tundra]

im almost certain it was a pin or a bot command

[proven kelp]

One of these days I should really make a compilation

Oh right
Roadless exist

[opaque remnant]

why are half of these things not in pins

[proven kelp]

[nimble kite]

It is. They have one common link I'm too fucking lazy to find.

[arctic hawk]

fae when tierlist

[proven kelp]

After I'm done revamping Roadless

[arctic hawk]

just vibe code a website atp

[proven kelp]

[abstract blade]

is gummy good? or should I stick with spot?

[sleek finch]

hmm, is archetto that impactful in IS to be a pick up?
ig same situation and mizuki and ange

[abstract blade]

I still do not have ceobe unfortunately. one day.

[sleek finch]

consider your response
are you pulling kernal
you should stop pulling kernel

[slim tusk]

yuri tierlist?

[nimble kite]

Decent. You will end up using both time to time.

[safe tundra]

1. fib x alyssal

[abstract blade]

fuck I keep on mixing up ceobe and cuora

[safe tundra]

[nimble kite]

Cause Spot can heal targets faster, but at exact skill activations.

Gummy can waste her heal on almost healthy unit, but she can do heal consistently and you don't need to catch a timings for that.

[turbid ocean]

ange is top tier
archetto is actually good when used properly, i think just putting her meme tier is disservice
mizuki is a fraud when it comes to results, he feels good to use but actually not used in any optimized strats

[abstract blade]

gummy is better when she and her target arent babysat by a medic right?

[nimble kite]

Usually yes.

[turbid ocean]

if you're newer player spot will be fine until you get better units

cuora will be main defender solves almost everything

[abstract blade]

I dont have cuora

will gummy/bubble work?

[nimble kite]

Bubble is wall enough to tank the damage. Use her then.

Gummy is mostly a medic with 3 Block, with some mediocre Arts tanking.

[abstract blade]

or should I save my lmd until I get cuora from recruitment?

[wraith sentinel]

Does the Camouflage from Fincatcher's Shawl still work if the Ranged operator is deployed on a low-ground tile (with Pure White Dance Shoes)?

[delicate grail]

Who is better between Crownslayer with her second module and Phantom?

[safe tundra]

cuora and bubbul are almost sidegrades on e1. just invest on either, whatever you own

[abstract blade]

btw I still dont get it. should I have a defender and melee guard in the same lane or not?

[nimble kite]

Should, cause it just takes the Tile Type class.

So either Melee or Ranged on ops tags.

[lyric jewel]

does blaze, mountain and thorns all function as lane holders?

[turbid ocean]

just wait until you get cuora

you can use spot + noir corne early game

[safe tundra]

that entirely depends on range coverage and susceptibility to die

[turbid ocean]

bubble is honestly fine

but i prefer cuora, like 5-10% better imo

[nimble kite]

Yes, but they're too much outdated most of newer enemies can and will kill them easily.

[abstract blade]

im talking about basic 1-tile. so no tequila or silverash

[jovial urchin]

Chat I forgor, does Kal2 prioritize healing Mon3tr the unit? Same as og Kal

[nimble kite]

No. She doesn't have that talent anymore.

[jovial urchin]

🥀

[rocky pilot]

Can heal but doesn’t prioritise

[abstract blade]

obvs silverash can just stand behind a defender and use his bird while being 100% safe

[safe tundra]

its a common strat, yes

as long as the defender doesnt render the guard useless on deploy

[abstract blade]

how does that get decided?

[nocturne laurel]

1 range guards dont do anything behind defenders, place them infront

[nimble kite]

Strong character being. Like HoshiAlter, when she's kinda DPS Guard herself, she doesn't need help from the real guards.

[opaque remnant]

Caster, DPS, guard and defender in one

[nimble kite]

As well as defenders becomes redundant when you kill enemies before they even try to kill your defenses.

You just don't tank them, you kill them. Skipping one of the gameplay part.

[abstract blade]

wait why would I put the defender behind the guard?

[nocturne laurel]

because guards like specter and ulpianus cannot reach far enough for enemies infront of the defender

[safe tundra]

guard normally has less block, hence reducing stress of taking damage

[proven kelp]

I mean, that depends
Putting defenders in front of guards isn't the worse idea, it's nice if the first enemy that will come hits hard, so the defender can block it rather than your guard and die, they can also handle leaks

[opaque remnant]

Liberators

[abstract blade]

im talking about 1-tile guards here so no tequila

[lunar apex]

dreadnought/soloblade

[safe tundra]

even a cutter or degen is a good example of this

[abstract blade]

ah I see. 1-block guard in front while the defender behind them does the actual blocking

[safe tundra]

or chen3 lmfao

[proven kelp]

You rather put the defenders behind them so the guards can actively dmg the enemies while the defenders will keep any leaks from moving pass them while they kill

[vague wasp]

Zumama s2 + hoederer s3 secret tech

[abstract blade]

ok. but guards like spectre have 3 block so they dont really need a defender backup right?

[opaque remnant]

S2 maybe

[proven kelp]

They don't tend to need a defender, yes

[abstract blade]

skybox will mostly be just anti-air right?

is he better at it than kroosalt?

[ivory terrace]

iirc offskill
on skill he hit ground

[abstract blade]

thats why I said "mostly"

[nimble kite]

Shitter.

[abstract blade]

does he have good defenses at least?

[nimble kite]

Well, I believe you wouldn't tank something with ranged op, unless it's Phalanx Caster.

[abstract blade]

isnt "take off" ops whole thing that they can block flyers?
do aerial enemies priortize attacking the guy blocking them or nah?

[opaque remnant]

or blazealt

[nimble kite]

Why block Aerial? Kill them.

[rocky pilot]

Okay how much heal per second does haruka has before event ends my noir corne was eating lapps attacks like nothing

[abstract blade]

I recently fought some fuckass stone birds that has way too much def and res for me to take down without blocking them

[chrome tiger]

She heals good but the big carrier is the sanctuary on heal

[nimble kite]

You just kill them faster. Lol. They ain't tanky.

[chrome tiger]

beeg damage res

[nimble kite]

If they are, then your damage sucks ass, sorry.

[rocky pilot]

That explains…

[ivory terrace]

they also hit like truck surely
and who even has 100% takeoff uptime and has block

[abstract blade]

fucking how? what the fuck do I do against 550 def and 70 res???

[chrome tiger]

550 def is nothing burger actually

[nimble kite]

550 DEF is shitty amount lmao.

[rocky pilot]

A slightly bigger sneeze can kill that

[chrome tiger]

as for the 70 res just bring silence the debuff

[ivory terrace]

70 res from refraction can be silenced

[nimble kite]

KroosAlter on S2 will just shoot them down.
If ain't Kroos 3☆.

[ivory terrace]

wut about max hp

[nimble kite]

Just for reference: Reunion Defenders (Big Sheild Dudes) has 800 DEF.

Dublinn one just 750 DEF.

[rocky pilot]

This is why you hit the gym more

[abstract blade]

yeah those guys can be blocked and my ulp can hit them

[chrome tiger]

Alternatively if it’s story mode iirc EVERY gargoyales stages have a few pillars for you to drop on their head and instakilling them

[nimble kite]

They can be killed from afar anyway.

[abstract blade]

except 9-9 where theyre introduced

[tepid abyss]

what are you talking now

[nimble kite]

https://youtu.be/D2lTqac2kew?t=2m59s

[abstract blade]

huh kroosalt cant have more than 550 atk even when maxed. are we relying on crits?

[nimble kite]

KyostinV just shoot them down with Kroos 3☆ and Jessica 4☆ whole time.

[abstract blade]

I guess im just underleveled then. or maybe I needed orchid

[nimble kite]

Even that, before they actually takeoff, you can damage them Phase 2 on ground, before they fly.

[abstract blade]

is orchid good? or is ethan better

[nocturne sandal]

Gargoyles are only relatively tanky while in coccoon form

[nimble kite]

Fine as slower. Ethan cannot hit Air, so prio her.

[honest robin]

How to get alliance stacks in coop event?

[rain forge]

ethan's bind is rng too so yeh

[nimble kite]

Read what ops does. Their special Stronghold effect.

[abstract blade]

I still dont get how damage calcs work. maxed kroosalt has 502 atk right? so does she need crits to do any damage to the bird?

[rain forge]

thats not how it works

[ivory terrace]

if not chip damage

[honest robin]

I didn't understand. It says what buffs operators get, but it doesn't say how to get stacks.

[abstract blade]

then how does it work please tell me

[ivory terrace]

there is a minimum 5% atk clause to damage

[nimble kite]

Example.

[rain forge]

operators will do at minimum 5% of their original damage no matter how many defence buffs you slap on an enemy

[ivory terrace]

unless DR ig

[nimble kite]

There's some ops who can farm it in battle, for example ExecutorAlter or Pramanix, read them as well.

They have a condition how to. Make them spam it.

[honest robin]

Ty. But it says here that you can get it once. but I've seen people score 170 stacks

[tepid abyss]

Some operators have built-in stacking effects, usually at level three or four.

[nimble kite]

Yes. Find the one who really farm that consistently.

[tepid abyss]

If you're a beginner, I think Seraphim is more suitable for you, because you can stack layers as long as there's a freeze within the prram range.

[nimble kite]

Who is Seraphim?

[tepid abyss]

prams state

[nimble kite]

[tepid abyss]

kjerag

i hate Google

[safe tundra]

[rain forge]

how does google turn kjerag into seraphim

[safe tundra]

youre genuinely asking how google comes up with bullshit

but its not ai generated at best

[abstract blade]

does stronghold alliance have a lot of good rewards I can get right before it ends?

[dense walrus]

so wang is a god lore wise and content clearing wise

[nimble kite]

Look at Battlepass.

[vital kelp]

wang isnt a god lore wise

[abstract blade]

is it hard to get points? I have zero experience with the mode

[nimble kite]

Will be long way and you need to play good.

[tepid abyss]

Google Translate is really trash."
(or more naturally: "Google Translate is absolute garbage.")

[rocky pilot]

Dictionary
Try

[abstract blade]

I think I should practice my AK fundamentals more first. maybe next Alliance

[pseudo flume]

Tbh Kjerag means Goat's Hair (Kje-ragg)

[safe tundra]

that requires reading™

[tepid abyss]

who is ak？

[rocky pilot]

A bunch of foods dumped together expecting it to be good

[pseudo flume]

Arknights Basics

[opaque remnant]

abbreviation for arknights

[safe tundra]

arkn*ghts abbreviation

[pseudo flume]

Like knowing what to do

[tepid abyss]

i just think is ak47

[pseudo flume]

That's a type of rifle

[rocky pilot]

Suddenly Russian violence

[tepid abyss]

yeah we talk by 粥 or 舟

[pseudo flume]

I don't see Bengal tho

[rocky pilot]

Yeah uh he died

[safe tundra]

because thats indian

[nimble kite]

Hi

[rocky pilot]

Nvm somebody resurrected him for 5 bucks

[vocal wagon]

what is a possibility node in is?

[robust thistle]

try it out

[nimble kite]

Bosky, Wonderland.

[pseudo flume]

Bosky Node

[nimble kite]

Teleport to Extra Floor for more benefits.

[pseudo flume]

More Floors and combat done more score ya