help

[delicate locust]

im collecting all da chens for funni

[magic crag]

Ch1n ch3n

[ornate sable]

Guys. The free Crownslayer from the event. Is she decent?

[magic crag]

Needs heavy investment iirc

[pale tapir]

wait where did the lyudmila pin go

[marble viper]

light unpinned his message

[quick jolt]

only if you get her Y module completely maxed out, its not really worth it for most people

[proven kelp]

Is Crownslayer worth building?
Short answer : No
Long Answer :

Crownslayer is a Staller operator that can stun lock 2 enemies for 18 seconds or 3 enemies for 12 seconds straight for each deployment, so this gives her a niche uses for high end content where you need to stall

Issue? She's not newbie friendly, she NEEDS high investment to be remotely good. She needs both Mastery 3 and Max Module Y to stun lock enemies
Another problem is that for vast majority of the player, you will be better off using that resource for a DPS than simply stalling them
Another problem is that if there are more than 3 enemies in her range, it completely destroys her stun locking so it's only really good for stun locking Elites or Boss, but they also tend to be stun immune

If you think this is worth the resources, then go for it. She's S3M3 and Mod Y lvl3
But for newbies she is not worth it for the resources she eats

[broken flame]

Mat Slayer 🥀

[opaque remnant]

#help message

[urban sleet]

Long story short very niche and needs high investment to attain such niche, not recommended for the average player

[pale tapir]

god bless fae

[ornate sable]

I think so too. Thanks

But what about Flammetta?

[urban sleet]

E0 base slave

[magic crag]

[pale tapir]

-# also her name is fiammetta not flammetta

[proven kelp]

That depends on what your other options are
She's decent AFK dps, thats about it

[urban sleet]

24x7 working provisio perma slavery

[ornate sable]

The only reason I would use S2 or S3 With her if I played her on IS

[severe crypt]

I doubt she has actual is use

[tepid abyss]

So, when you guys have nothing to do, you never farm 1-7, right?

[urban sleet]

Fia and IS 🥀

[inland osprey]

employee rights violation conduct is at full speed

[broken flame]

I farm skill books

[torn sonnet]

Now I can do the event

[ornate sable]

Final option is stainless. Got 3 of em. From the last free choice banner. Dang him stole Ulps from me

[quick jolt]

if there's no event, i farm red certs when they're available, otherwise 1-7

[magic crag]

Is there a braindead way to just solo yi the tragodia and gravel lowk not working cuz i keep getting that one stage where the enemies on the middle inflicts while lotta burn elemntal damage

[pale tapir]

AP-5, 1-7, or chips

[urban sleet]

I am gonna farm chips in this desd period until nasti event

[inland osprey]

well good news for you ulpi would soon come to certs shop

[ornate sable]

NO SHOT.

[tepid abyss]

raidian and hosi

[urban sleet]

I think the mistake here was selecting stainless

[opaque remnant]

It’s this year so it’s a few months away still

[neon siren]

Radian S1 and make bro just camp at the red box
And slowly watch him die

[ornate sable]

The others are bum as well

[quick jolt]

raidian s1. place her at the bottom of the map and use her summon to block the red box, just deal with yi after you reach the first killgate and enemies stop spawning

[urban sleet]

#is-station pinned guide, made by pros to help the new

[urban sleet]

Better than stainless

[proven kelp]

Strong buffer, he has niche as a Offensive Recovery battery
Which is again, back to what you have

Without a good buff target then he isn't really doing anything, and even then depending on the rest of your units, it probably not worth drafting a Buffer

[static glade]

OMG IS THIS MY CHANCE TO GET SUZURAN, MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, O MERCIFUL KJERAGANDR

[pale tapir]

[urban sleet]

#salt-mines that way

[lunar apex]

get magallan

[torn sonnet]

Is nearl a good op? I js got her

[coarse notch]

which of the shitty odds do i go for here

[tepid abyss]

which level is you now at

[quick jolt]

shes fine for a newbie, i wouldnt invest past elite 1

[inland osprey]

magallan be like: let me introduce myself

[static glade]

If I get Magallan it's you and y'alls fault

[magic crag]

Tour 0

[torn sonnet]

Uh...is thorns good? I got him too

[urban sleet]

Decent for newbies

[neon siren]

Mid

[quick jolt]

hes okay but he needs a lot of investment, he'll be useless until elite 2

[broken flame]

yolo TO fr

[inland osprey]

you dont even need trag stall for that, just enough dps and decent relic would erase yi from the map

[pale tapir]

I would either maggie for wife, aak for lols, or eun for RA
otherwise yolooooo
or just get pots

[urban sleet]

Smh follow pinned guide in #is-station part 2

[opaque remnant]

Times like these call for gamble

[tepid abyss]

13

[magic crag]

The thing is i can burst him to phase 2 before he can say anything the problems comes right after where everything just fallss appart pretty quickly

[tepid abyss]

just start by these one

[magic crag]

Also the constant spawn of the enemies that inflict burn

[inland osprey]

cheese him with wis , block him near the blue box with a deff plus a medic, and wis left topside would hit him with ease

[lunar apex]

hoshi start is kinda ahh, borrow exu2 instead

[opaque remnant]

If you can’t kill them, tank them (just stack a shitton of life points)

[urban sleet]

I give up, not suggesting #is-station pinned guide for the third time

[magic crag]

I tried is station guide i lost about all my attempts

[urban sleet]

Thats on you

[inland osprey]

what enemies inflict burn? afaik the only enemies that would burn you is that variant with 6 flying head in the middle

[static glade]

In your face I got suzuran

[tepid abyss]

what dps you always get

[urban sleet]

I am pretty sure theres even a sample clear linked in that guide to copy

[magic crag]

The middle during yi boss fight i keep getting the mobs that has aoe burn inflict

[inland osprey]

lady fortune smiles upon you today

[quick jolt]

you dont bring a single operator that can kill them first?

[magic crag]

This was my best attempt yet

[quick jolt]

skipping combats?

[urban sleet]

Dont skip combats

[magic crag]

Nop

[inland osprey]

yikes thats an annoying variant tbh , ig unlucky , but still wis would clear em pretty fast

[lethal sundial]

How much currency do i need to buy all crownslayer tokens?

[urban sleet]

1750 iirc

[quick jolt]

doesnt seem like you got a lot of vouchers, so must be skipping combats or not doing turmoils in wonderland

[undone portal]

concerningly low number of actual drafts happening here. looks like youre routing away from combats

[opaque remnant]

Don’t buy them unless you played during the initial debut

[magic crag]

I do turmoils in wonderland if i know i can beat it,

[quick jolt]

also since you're on low diff, you should only be using vouchers at pathfinder nodes. almost all of your ops arent candleguests, and you also get a hope discount for doing that

[inland osprey]

or you could stack up life points in tavern , and just deal with yi and some mobs coming in from right side

[magic crag]

Might be my mis management on candle sticks

[magic crag]

How many mobs do spawn at the left?

[scenic wharf]

more like ur not using pathfinder nodes

[lethal sundial]

I have crownslayer at 1 pot so i can get extra 10 gold certs right?

[lunar apex]

if u can try to do turmoil on lower floor because they get tougher on higher floor

[opaque remnant]

Wait that’s a thing on all difficulties?

[lunar apex]

yep

[magic crag]

Is emergency operations needed?

[warped gust]

is virtuosa’s mod-y better than mod-x? I already have mod-x at lv2

[opaque remnant]

Is it because of the enemy scaling

[inland osprey]

emm prob like 10-12 i couldnt remember, but there are those hit rate mobs that if you kill one it will spawn many of those critters , yeah if you couldnt handle it just dont kill em and let em leak, thats why stacking life points help in such situations

[urban sleet]

Theres a stat multiplier which increasws for every floor

[lunar apex]

kind of because u get 1 relic after u beat it
amd more exp than usual

[quick jolt]

they give more command exp, which means faster hope gain, and also are guaranteed to drop a relic

[scenic wharf]

mod x is better

[tepid abyss]

i think y is good

[lunar apex]

duality of man

[warped gust]

ikr

[quick jolt]

i would rec X on virtuosa

[opaque remnant]

Alternatively look for the answer in pins

[urban sleet]

Iirx it doesnt matter much

[magic crag]

Might try and clear them

[scenic wharf]

mod x lets virtuosa proc necrosis using only 1 s1 stack and triggers it faster on s3

[magic crag]

If yall hear from me either i lost my mind again or uhh is6 sucked the life out of me

[scenic wharf]

mod y has lower efficiency when proccing necrosis

[nimble salmon]

do i able to get the medal set after the rerun event ends?

[scenic wharf]

but it lets her deal slightly more dmg per burst

[quick jolt]

event reruns are the very last time you can get medals

[scenic wharf]

overall I would say X for efficiency, Y if you want more dmg per burst proc

why because she can't reliably trigger necrosis with 1 s1 stack without module X and also bosses take longer to get necrosis on s3 without it

[tepid abyss]

because i use S3 with nymph

i hardly use S1

[scenic wharf]

mod X makes nymph better as well so

[inland osprey]

unlikely, you got like 4 hours left to speedrun it

[opaque remnant]

Go speedrun it, you didn’t use your sanity boosts yet right

[nimble salmon]

yea

[rocky pilot]

Oh shit I forgot to do the stages

Wait is 4 hours before is gone right

[pale tapir]

3 now slowpoke

[rocky pilot]

I was ironing clothes

[urban sleet]

3 hrs 33 mins to be orecise

[tepid abyss]

what time is it now

[pale tapir]

time to do the stages

[severe crypt]

3:27 am

[tepid abyss]

we are pm

[severe crypt]

Yes that’s how time zones work I’m aware

[inland osprey]

bruh this global server not sea server

[hidden nacelle]

we are charl

idk I'm 00:29 so

[quick jolt]

dont be mean to wuwei, my goat

[turbid ocean]

not the place to chit chat

[scenic wharf]

dyk what global means

[tepid abyss]

i am inChina

[copper schooner]

We know

[turbid ocean]

this goes for everyone

see channel rules, this aint the channel for idle chat

[tepid abyss]

so where are the new players

[copper schooner]

Asleep

[young path]

help slaves forgetting that they're not allowed a single crumb of joy, only redirecting people to pins 24/7

[vital kelp]

im new player pls help me

[rain forge]

your choice

summertime beats storyline has 0 plot relevance so you can just skip their dialogue

[tepid abyss]

yes all you can chose to read

[copper schooner]

Reading optional

[scenic wharf]

I would say just follow the normal timeline and do the others if you want

[rain forge]

Most side stories are disconnected from the main storyline

[turbid ocean]

you can always go back to reread if you just want to play stages

[rain forge]

if it’s related to the main storyline it should be there in between the main story chapter timeline

[inland osprey]

if you care about lore wise , there are side stories connected to the mains stories , and rn its pretty simple to look at which is which

[rain forge]

does the grani episode even have any plot relevance

[opaque remnant]

Your choice, we have this if you ever need something to help you a bit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j6erNIDEeDz4PfVW7XGoGkKVfgNyjlHnzevvOKNhTc8/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.nz19puqk5hem

[tepid abyss]

mrdrock

[rain forge]

Same storyline ≠ connected

for example none of the summertime beats stories link into each other at all

[chrome prawn]

Hey i never see Grani on undertide

[opaque remnant]

Pretty sure just the EX? Specter has amnesia, and uhh yeah that’s all I remember I don’t know if grani is ever relevant again

[severe crypt]

It’s gonna be weird seeing an nypd officer in the Philippines now would it
Rose stfu

[rain forge]

You never know

[chrome prawn]

Lol

[static glade]

Which module for suzuran

[turbid ocean]

slightly depends on what purpose you build her for

if you just want to slap something on, modx1

[ancient lintel]

idk why I laughed so hard lol

[static glade]

So if I build her for slow and debuffs, with using mostly s3, mod1 right?

[inland osprey]

yeahh just come over to #ak-lore , they got what you need prob

[turbid ocean]

Going to stop this convo here
This channels for gameplay, and as mentioned #ak-lore exists

[turbid ocean]

more so just how much you want to invest in her

mody2/3 can be useful in some situations

[static glade]

Oh? I'm thinking of e2 lvl 90 her cuz I like her alot

[turbid ocean]

im just saying modx1 is enough and not think about it
and better for general use

[static glade]

Ok ok 👌

[turbid ocean]

shes kind of unnecessary for most general content

just a win more, not necessarily a solution to anything

if you wanna play her, by all means

[static glade]

So....can I pair her with Pram2

[turbid ocean]

Unnecessary like I said

[static glade]

ok got it

[turbid ocean]

if Pram2 can't kill something, you want a proper DPS

its fine if you just like the character and want to use it
but just clarifying to not confuse it with strength, atleast not for general content

[opaque remnant]

Yeah, this is why most end up reading story release…

[chrome prawn]

Use s3

[ornate sable]

Anyone have tips for Decadanza challenge. This is stupidly hard. For me

even with support

[opaque remnant]

The entire thing?

[ornate sable]

level 3

[chrome prawn]

Just watch guide

[ornate sable]

is it the GOD of Arknights Guy

[urban sleet]

Ideally you wait for vignette events to buy info fragments

[odd sky]

you shouldn't buy info fragment here, cuz it's so expensive compared to vignette event shop
yes buy out module data block every month

[opaque remnant]

There’s a vignette event shop?

[ornate sable]

Just when I bought them this news came to me. Starting from 0 again

[odd sky]

you got here before leizi?

[opaque remnant]

I played during leizi2, but I was too new to understand most things

[rain forge]

viginettes have the info fragments in their shops ya

[ivory terrace]

but now with inf mat in the equation

[rain forge]

viginette stage material drop rates are horseshit but atleast we can get their event currency from any stage

so you usually just farm 1-7 during viginettes

[odd sky]

it's fine vignette event shop is small anyway

[ivory terrace]

except past side stories

[opaque remnant]

The rock farm is infinite…

[spare jetty]

rocks

[strong thunder]

Any of these worth to e2?

[radiant walrus]

Guyss is there any recommendation to choose?

[opaque remnant]

Just zuo le…

[hollow comet]

are tuye and kirara worth e2ing for the pozy tp combo

[opaque remnant]

AoE for ifrit/mostima

[ivory terrace]

pozy still need durin slaves in base for it to be worth

[median fable]

that combo almost never seen usage since if you have all these ops high chance you have the better ones

[radiant walrus]

Alrightt

[median fable]

and Kirara e2 isn't needed if you're doing 3 gold setup like you should

[surreal wing]

So the Perma Ra is ra1 and cn has ra3, when does ra2 happen

[radiant walrus]

Worth to build?

[shadow bay]

not rly

[median fable]

perma RA is RA2, RA1 was like a "test"

[ivory terrace]

RA starts from 0 in their eyes

[surreal wing]

Ah so it's like is

[ivory terrace]

if she is like ur only 6* caster then its fine ig

[proven kelp]

If you're new she's good as your DPS

Otherwise she's pretty niche

[opaque remnant]

What was RA1 even about

[lyric jewel]

is recruitment the only way to get robots? and is there no way to increase the chance to get the robot tag?

[ivory terrace]

precursor to RA2 iirc

[hollow comet]

can you name some remarkable one

[opaque remnant]

Yeah, but what was even the story relevance of it

[ivory terrace]

outside of one-time rewards yes
also yes robot tag is just a copium it show up

select stage
if there are scenes tied to it there is a watch button or smth like that

[vital kelp]

there is a reread button

go on any stage and click on the little thing

[polar hollow]

ng is s3m3 angle right? not s2m3 like shining?

[ivory terrace]

s2m3 for both is cuz u afk

[vernal drift]

Ulpi s3 being the best is cause of the giant increase of attack right?

[nimble kite]

There's a lot of pros, not only that

[vernal drift]

Huh really? Is the movement thing good

[quick jolt]

yes, and the stun is nice, and it has a fast skill cycle and can be cancelled if theres no enemies left to save time

[spare jetty]

works with +sp on deploy relics

[vernal drift]

Oh it has a stun? I didn't even realize cool

[quick jolt]

this can be both a pro and a con depending on the situation, but the movement also counts as a redeployment, meaning ranged enemies will prioritize attacking him. even if he doesnt move and remains on the same tile, he still gets redeployed

[lyric jewel]

for the base should i just have 2/3 in the presets?

[turbid ocean]

only usually need 2 teams

main team and off team

[ivory terrace]

if staggering u'd need 3 presets

[median fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXgmm3PAIRQ
if you want gameplay
#ak-lore if you are talking about the story

[turbid ocean]

some weird sets ups want the 3rd but probably not for most peopple

[median fable]

shamare/tequila combo
proviso
it's hard to recommend since base combos depends on who you own

[pine plover]

it's just prologue to the Sand

both are within the sand after all

[median fable]

usually 3 since staggering

[lyric jewel]

what is staggering?

[pine plover]

some weird comp technically wants a 4th preset, but there is no 4th preset

[median fable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0si4HMQuYBo

[ivory terrace]

better to have peteryr explain ye

[median fable]

tldr: minmax your operator rotations to have the ones with higher productivity work more +

[ivory terrace]

and also less pressure on ur dorms for resting

[tropic pond]

Quick Q, does the current crossover outfit comeback

[turbid ocean]

presume it wont

technically this is a rerun but

[quick jolt]

if i had to guess, this is a one-time rerun

[chilly skiff]

why there isnt a single person set nightingale as support

[spare jetty]

i cast #friend-id

[chilly skiff]

a single dude

[quick jolt]

well go ahead and friend them

[tropic pond]

Right, it's really crossover so this is the last run basically.

Guess I'll take it

[ancient sonnet]

UR-4 will be the farm map for the new event?

[quick jolt]

it would be one of the last 3 stages, like always

[turbid ocean]

well usually things like this don't get a rerun in the first place

so its strange but still treat as a one off

[wanton bronze]

are these 2 medals obtainable after the event?

[rocky pilot]

Wait a minute I'll ask this one last time is impossible to get medals of previous events if is not the current one or is getting rerun right?

[slate ridge]

unless youre named Tomimi

[rocky pilot]

And that's exactly why I was asking

[slate ridge]

Tomimi is one of its kind

[hexed adder]

Again Exclusive for EN server

[nimble kite]

**You have 1.5h to collect missing medal, or say byebye to them forever. **

[fierce viper]

among the sui fragments, who are unemployed

[subtle hawk]

Any of these worth to invest on?

[urban sleet]

Ines

[marble viper]

no lore questions 🤫

[fierce viper]

grrrrr

[subtle hawk]

How about Cantabile

[marble viper]

she's also good

[spare jetty]

then #ak-lore

[urban sleet]

If you are sticking to just gen content ines is enough but sure canta isnt a bad raise

[tropic pond]

Right, crossovers can't even be bought with vouchers, the Hello Kitty rerun and how the outfit looks is what made me curious

[thin wraith]

Does anybody have problem with the key objective that requires you to clear a sim with 50 durable/marvel/raid/investor? I just cleared a run with 54 marvel but game doesn't think I did

[urban sleet]

#stronghold-hall

[hoary bramble]

#game-news message worth using free tickets to roll on them? no only tickets

[left tulip]

Im afraid not

[wide knot]

This is just out of curiosity but how did you get specter alter?

[safe tundra]

[chrome prawn]

Either spark her or getting her from offrate

[ancient current]

or pulling on her banner

[wide knot]

Oh I forgot that she was int he shop haha

[urban sleet]

Hows cairn

[chrome prawn]

Mid

[opaque remnant]

who's cairn?

[ancient current]

i've heard good things about her from shileds

[urban sleet]

[rocky pilot]

Upcoming new 5*

[median fable]

for a general player I'm pretty sure you can forget about her

[opaque remnant]

RA?

[safe tundra]

wow if this is coming from shill-eds this gotta be goodge

[ancient current]

pretty much yeah

[rocky pilot]

Coming with nasti along with the welfare

[urban sleet]

I am not general player

[median fable]

maybe if a newbie gets lucky he can consider raising her

[opaque remnant]

ah, so not relevant

[rigid hill]

Do monthly cards worth the 5$?

[ancient current]

yes

[austere wagon]

worth it? or wait for banner Wang

[opaque remnant]

best value

[ancient current]

they are the best value you can get

[urban sleet]

Wait for wang and chen3 banner

[ancient current]

wait for wang

[rocky pilot]

Pins

[rigid hill]

Bet

[chrome prawn]

Remember she gets upscale after every new banner

[opaque remnant]

short answer no
long answer ask someone else

[austere wagon]

hmm wang overkill dps right? dang

[rigid hill]

Koo do I choose Nuker for Ch'en or choose DPS? I got Top Operator tag

[urban sleet]

Both bad
What are the other tags

[opaque remnant]

is that really your two tags, what's the others

[rocky pilot]

Oh

[urban sleet]

Specialist

[chrome prawn]

Yea

[rigid hill]

I'm unlucky with Top Operator

[opaque remnant]

spec is 1/3 weedy, if I remember

[urban sleet]

Even phantom is kinda aight (not for gen content)

[mental fox]

why did all the good supports just suddenly disappear (im suddenly only getting non 6 stars and low level ones)

[urban sleet]

Sth sth once you hit lvl 20 you find suplorts from ppl around that lvl

[rigid hill]

DPS and pray for Mudrock/Skadi? (Abyssal Hunters team)

[opaque remnant]

after level 20, you get supports based around your level

[ancient current]

did you reach level 20

[austere wagon]

you broke

[chrome prawn]

Skadi works with silverash alter too

[mental fox]

oh my gosh im so cooked

[nimble kite]

No, if you add some friends through #friend-id.

[queen compass]

who did you get

[rocky pilot]

Okay first off

[urban sleet]

very low odds for skadi
And mudrock isnt good

[mental fox]

oh yea true thanks for reminding

[rigid hill]

I thought she's not fast redeploy

[opaque remnant]

she has a module that makes her frd

[rigid hill]

Didn't choose yet because I'm waiting for daily reset so I can get recruitment thing </3

[urban sleet]

We are not selling skadi for sa2 s2 shenanigans in tbis chat

[median fable]

she has a redeploy talent boosted by her mod

[chrome prawn]

She got a talent where she reduces her own redeployment time and s2 is a heli drop skill

[rocky pilot]

Banish him

[ancient current]

make sure to avoid unnecessary media as per channel rule 4

[queen compass]

[rigid hill]

Fih

[chrome prawn]

D

[rigid hill]

Combine both with Ulpianus

[urban sleet]

Best combo is there is top op and specialist
Which is weedy/phantom/aak
Weedy is the best, admitted niche but atleqst relevant and wont fall off once you get better unjts
Phantom is uhhh usable in IS
Aak is well, a buffer for sure

Its fine to play abyssal hunters buut

• Odds for skadi is pretty low
• Iirc you are new, you very likely do not have everyine and one of the ops you need is a past limited

[opaque remnant]

just use it like any normal person would and get your operators out fast

the combos are whatever

[rigid hill]

DPS can give me Surtr and Suzuran and Exusiai

[opaque remnant]

exu is washed

[rocky pilot]

I am going to bury you

[rigid hill]

Please

[opaque remnant]

also the pool is too fucking wide to be worth

[chrome prawn]

Exu is bad dawg

[urban sleet]

Exusiai is bad
And dps has suzu?
Regardless the odds to get something good from dps is very low

[opaque remnant]

kills enemies with cuteness

[rocky pilot]

Yeah dps has suzu for whatever reason

[ancient current]

yes somehow suzu s2 is considered """dps"""

hoshi has dps as well

[rigid hill]

Low ≠ impossible

[chrome prawn]

Just pick anything atp

[urban sleet]

No way suzu in dps

[rigid hill]

I love her mother

[urban sleet]

upto you if you want to gamble

[opaque remnant]

you do you we're just telling you what your best option is

[rocky pilot]

Okay tf she has dps tag what

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Suzuran

[fresh anvil]

she’s married brochacho

[urban sleet]

Hoshi1 prolly for her s3 or sth iirc shes the og offensive defender

[opaque remnant]

kill enemies with cuteness

[ancient current]

unfortunately it also applies to stickers

[median fable]

suzu has dps tag since s2

[rigid hill]

Then why add them?

[ancient current]

to be used in other channels

[livid robin]

Why the game hate me... Anything useful on these tags?

[opaque remnant]

wait stickers get you sent to the shadow realm?

[chrome prawn]

Top and support?

[nimble kite]

For other chats that isn't help category.

[ancient current]

unfortunately yes

[rigid hill]

Happened to me too

[opaque remnant]

shift for weedy

[urban sleet]

Shift for guaranteed weedy
Supoort has ng/suzu (forhot if it has ifrit) and some bad ops

[median fable]

you got shift, one of the best tags with TO

[livid robin]

Weedy it is then

[fresh anvil]

weedy good?

[tidal vale]

better shaw i think

[urban sleet]

Shes niche but lile the best ops in therr are niche

[opaque remnant]

2nd best option after kal

[urban sleet]

She keeps popping up in cc and is an is3 staple

[opaque remnant]

CC? interesting

[opaque remnant]

what the hell do they have in IS3 that weedy is a staple

[urban sleet]

Holes

[opaque remnant]

oh my god

[rocky pilot]

Welcome to Brazil

[ancient current]

boss too hard? push down hole (ed4)

[fresh anvil]

man surprised there are holes in is3

[wide knot]

Who should I prioritise logos or pharamix when unlocking their modules?

[queen compass]

weedy is great for stalling

[urban sleet]

Let me get numbers for izumik and his jelly bros in d18 ed4 rq

[quick jolt]

enemies have too many stats so is3 is full of wacky crowd control metas

[opaque remnant]

logos benefits massively from delta

[wide knot]

Okay thanks for the advice

[opaque remnant]

also... pretend siege doesn't exist, stop raising

[wide knot]

Lmao I only use her for hellidrop so dont worry I wont e2 her haha

[opaque remnant]

you can just ditch using her all together

[rocky pilot]

She's hot but unfortunately still not good in the end

[opaque remnant]

doesn't that apply to a good portion of characters

[rocky pilot]

Exactly

[wide knot]

Eh gonna replace her soon with eblana just gonna get logos module first

[opaque remnant]

can I look at your 6 stars?

[wide knot]

Alright

[rocky pilot]

Sort by rarity

[opaque remnant]

please don't screenshot everything by class

[urban sleet]

Jelly bros stats at d18:

• 96536 hp, 90 res, 2k defense

Izumik stats at d18:

• 12856 base atk, 1042591 hp

[ornate sable]

Guys. Long ago. Did any of you pronounce W's name like normal or as

[opaque remnant]

12k base attack... ain't those two a real piece of work

[ancient current]

make sure to avoid unnecessary media as per channel rule 4

[ornate sable]

Sorry bout that. Just want to pop a reference

[opaque remnant]

oh, you have siege the first and siege the second, well both are niche, yeah eblana is probably the one you'd consider for e2, the rest are ehhh

[wide knot]

I rarely use kore than 3 ops anyways since pharaminx is op

[urban sleet]

Then there's izumik's skills which are ofc a multiplicative modifier on his base atk btw thats max izumik stats on d18, he starts off with 4k atk and 400k hp

[fresh anvil]

90 res… scary

[urban sleet]

More info here
https://is-central.github.io/is3-mizuki/slaying-the-ocean/

[opaque remnant]

pop necrosis and pretend the res doesn't exist

[urban sleet]

Honourary lee mention as a part of the squad the relicless clear uses

[opaque remnant]

how the fuck do you even clear that relicless

[urban sleet]

The pros just do

[scenic wharf]

I mean recently the releases are hot+good but powercrept in 2yrs

[opaque remnant]

what is wrong with that person

[scenic wharf]

such is life in a gacha game

[undone portal]

how much more sp/sec can nasti s2 produce for a single op?

[opaque remnant]

isn't wis'adel almost 2+ years

[urban sleet]

Siege has fundamental flaws within herself

And yeah not all ops get forgotten with time
Le mlynar:

If you consider niche ops theres weedy angelina gnosis etc

[scenic wharf]

because wisadel is balanced, she makes easy thing easier, medium things shes useful and hard things shes useless so she will almost always have a place

unless they giga up the enemy stats again for all content

[opaque remnant]

hearing wis'adel is balanced is one of the most insane things ever

[fresh anvil]

wisadel is balanced (buzzer noise)

[scenic wharf]

there's nothing ridiculous outside of the crazy 5x5 aoe

she cant kill anything with high defence or if she can, she'll need 4+ shots

[undone portal]

wis'adel gets completely shut down once enemies start hitting particularly high def, which for flinger kit design, makes total sense

[opaque remnant]

what even was the utility for flingers again

[urban sleet]

For wisadel its s2
And s1 if you need the stuns

[undone portal]

she still contributes with slow/stun, but she certainly stops being a dmg carry once enemies get scary enough

[urban sleet]

Greyy2 has some form of cc iirc
For rosmontis her IS module speaks volumes

[ancient current]

rosmontis is just meme or IS usage
greyy2 is a decel binder supporter but not shit
wisadel's niche is death

I keep mixing up decel binders and hexers

[undone portal]

the palicos are also meme

[urban sleet]

Atleast you remember they exist

[ancient current]

oh yeah they...exist

[opaque remnant]

ah yes, killing enemies is their niche

seems pretty accurate to me

[undone portal]

sleepknights technically

in general flingers are designed to be an artilleryman sidegrade of sorts, where they trade out their dph for hitcount + wider range
wis having ridiculous numbers is more just a product of her being a 6star

[opaque remnant]

but rosmontis-

[urban sleet]

And being hg's choice for broken unit of the year

[undone portal]

rosmo has ridiculous numbers in is

[opaque remnant]

she gets infinite walls

[ancient current]

artillerymen but not shit

[ancient current]

technically capped at 21 pillars max on field

[woeful raven]

i got pramanix alter and lemuen which should i level first

[undone portal]

e1 pram > e2 lemuen > e2 pram

[inland osprey]

ive been tryin to do this , but the game seems like to know what im planning and decided to screw it up , like last run i only got 2 sniper and no caster

[ancient lintel]

Did u pick snipmed?

[inland osprey]

what?

[ancient lintel]

Tact ranged

[inland osprey]

no i actually use that squad which gave you voucher for each floor

[kind igloo]

Is it maggallan or chen thats available in the yellow cert shop?

[inland osprey]

are we suppose to do that squad for it to work?

[undone portal]

snipmed squad increases the chance to pull sniper/medic vouchers. same thing with the other class pair squads

[lunar apex]

top gun

[undone portal]

youre probably also just lowrolling

[kind igloo]

So is chen worth getting? I have 180 cert or should I get 256 for the pulls?

[inland osprey]

is this really a thing? i thought all vouch are rsndomized

[quick jolt]

chen is one of the worst 6stars in the game. also 258 not 256

[undone portal]

absolutely not ch'en1 is outdated as hell

[urban sleet]

Never pull on kernel

[undone portal]

i mean, its still randomized, chances are just moved in your favor towards what youre trying to draft for

you could still lowroll and get no snipers

[ancient lintel]

Surely she's decent if paired with cheeto

[urban sleet]

Chen1's usage these days is to pre-farm trust for chen3

[shadow bay]

there goes my plan to maximize thorns s3 with chen sp battery to auto

[inland osprey]

well might try this ig and see it for myself , i still could not recover from the game giving me 8 medic vouch

[undone portal]

if you need an off.rec sp battery archetto stainless/nasti are right there

[undone portal]

would be an angle to hard-pivot into kal/kal'alt draft for sure

the dalaos say kal'alt is the new defacto medic draft pretty cool

[opaque remnant]

and look nice on the lobby screen (maybe)

[inland osprey]

kal good use her plenty of time , but shes the only medic actually can do something in my acc , well there is amiya medic but ehh

[opaque remnant]

better to use for pulls

[urban sleet]

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/sniper-med-rosmontis/

[urban sleet]

This considers d15-d18 btw so cut down as needed

[inland osprey]

thank you lord koo , may your is journey would be filled with abundance and wealth

[ruby garden]

Is the ops on Nasti tile get buffed permanently or only if her skill is active?

[icy fog]

Anyone, is this worth it?

[lunar apex]

if you know what u are doing

[undone portal]

permanent 60% hp/atk buff. skill is just there to build/repair the tile and boosts nastis stats

[opaque remnant]

if you got nothing better

[rose plaza]

I just did my first recruit as a new player, is this good ?

[icy fog]

I see

[ancient current]

probably your best option

[icy fog]

VERY

[urban sleet]

Decent for a newbie in genersl content, later on becomes a pick in endgame modes

[opaque remnant]

best option from recruit

[rose plaza]

so I should ahve this character on field most of the time? like how many medics usually you want?

[urban sleet]

And yeah one of the top 2 operators in current top op pool

[icy fog]

2 is fine, I don't think kaltsit is a medic tho

[vital kelp]

guys is chen1 working with archetto a viable strat in IS

[left tulip]

Who’s top 1👀

[undone portal]

kal'tsit is effectively a medic + a guard packaged together in one squad slot, she summons a mon3tr
2 medics is usually enough

[opaque remnant]

no top 1, it's shared with weedy

[urban sleet]

She heals your units by killing ejemies first she's more for dmg than healing
S2 for laneholdjng
S3 for true dmg

[opaque remnant]

weedy is niche but their the best at their niche

[rose plaza]

oh right, still learning a lot. I just thought if a character is a medic they just heal thanks

[undone portal]

she focuses on healing herself + mon3tr first above all else, so shes not the most reliable for healing

[ornate sable]

Any Strong Operator in the future that you guys couldn't miss?

[opaque remnant]

we have a lot of cases of "i'm a medic but"

[urban sleet]

Wang and chen3 banner

[undone portal]

we even have an entire subclass centered on the idea

[ornate sable]

You're getting both?

[opaque remnant]

reedic isn't even a medic, it's a caster

[rain forge]

and then abjurers are the elephant in the room

[urban sleet]

You should be getting both
No reason to skip either

[opaque remnant]

then we have a supporter... that is a medic

[undone portal]

'im not a medic but...'

[opaque remnant]

half of the abjurers are treated as if they don't exist

[rain forge]

guardian defenders 🤫

[urban sleet]

Iirc blemi was an offensive guardian defender back in the day

[opaque remnant]

meh, I only remember mostly shu as guardian because the "you will never reach the truth" S3

[undone portal]

9cd feels like a 4star (derogatory)
tsukinogi has the tiniest niche to make up for having dogshit numbers

[urban sleet]

You should know that rule 5 exists by now

[opaque remnant]

9cd is base

[lunar apex]

maybe

[rain forge]

who knows

maybe we get wang in January

[neon siren]

Was just asking speculated date my bad

[opaque remnant]

more pulls

[undone portal]

im too biased to say anything bad about silencealt/xingzhu

[neon siren]

[opaque remnant]

haruka is just "she does everything I do but better" for silence

[rain forge]

cant heal operators if they get oneshot 🚬

[opaque remnant]

ok, but why would they get oneshot

[undone portal]

hoshialt/haruka banner for silencealt enjoyers was like getting shot twice

[hoary bramble]

which skill of raidian is best or depends on content?

[urban sleet]

Depends on situation

[lunar apex]

depends

[undone portal]

in is6, very much depends on the map
in gen content, almost always s3

[opaque remnant]

she performs best in IS6, you can switch between the skills freely, general content is pretty ehhh, mostly S3

[undone portal]

for gen content raidian is a caster until you own real casters

[opaque remnant]

her S3 isn't physical?

[urban sleet]

None of her skills are physicsl

[undone portal]

..no? it even inflicts arts fragile

[opaque remnant]

wow, I really need to read more

[undone portal]

s2 is phys, s3 is arts

[urban sleet]

[nimble kite]

S2 is Phys bruh

[fresh radish]

15 gold cert or 3 pull?

[nimble kite]

As well as S1 is Phys. Only S3 Planes are Arts.

[opaque remnant]

? you mean from the shop?

[fresh radish]

Yeah,convert stuff

[nimble kite]

Pulls are better, unless you're about to buy 258 Gold Certs Ticket pack, then you get more by that instead.

[opaque remnant]

pulls

[urban sleet]

They mean cs pots or pulls

[undone portal]

event currency? would take the 3pulls unless those certs push you to having enough to buy something

[fresh radish]

Not sure if I can hit 258

[nimble kite]

Then just pulls.

[opaque remnant]

you'll hit it eventually if you play long enough

[undone portal]

would point out that each crownslayer token only exchanges for 10, not 15

[opaque remnant]

sitting at 375 gcerts... need a bit more till 540 for logos/asc/ulpi

[fresh radish]

For nasti event,got off game for a while,gotta rack up enough pull to guarantee another rhine

[fresh radish]

Oh yeah,I forgor ig

[undone portal]

total cert gain would be 70. 60 from shop tokens + 10 more from getting another copy from pv-5

[opaque remnant]

rhinelab player?

[undone portal]

rhineknights

[left tulip]

Im kind of torn apart wether i pull titi or nasti considering I wouldn’t wanna go with both

[fresh radish]

Nasti is a huge help for ifrit,she finally can get her ol'seat back in the team

[left tulip]

both I’m considering for fun and cool reasons tbh but if you had to compare the two which one would be better even with how different they are👀

[urban sleet]

[left tulip]

What’s ur problem

[undone portal]

high end content has seen more use out of titi s2 so far

[left tulip]

I see

[ocean mulch]

Titi is incantation right?

[urban sleet]

Why are you torn apart deciding between the two when you dont wanna go with eiither

[opaque remnant]

what about wang?

[nimble kite]

Yeah. Like ReedAlter.

[left tulip]

The reason I’m not pulling both is because of wang

[undone portal]

they mean they dont want to pull for both

[pine plover]

Medjethiti or something

[ocean mulch]

I laugh whenever titi is mentioned

[opaque remnant]

remember trying to pronounce the egyptian names of both titi and pepe might accidentally summon a demon

[ocean mulch]

Linguistic preference and stuff

[silver smelt]

mmm yes racism in help

[pine plover]

devil advocate: cat

[urban sleet]

Ideally you pull neither

[ocean mulch]

Titi means cock in Tagalog bro

[left tulip]

Thats not my question tho

[opaque remnant]

alright, so what is it

[pine plover]

[urban sleet]

Ik but I dont sense favouratism here

[left tulip]

and pepe means smth as well right?

[undone portal]

if youre pulling for meta, you skip these two and save for wang/ch'3n/kal'alt

[urban sleet]

Like theres no fun/waifu angle

[pine plover]

base slave angle

[undone portal]

nasti gold fac

[opaque remnant]

ah yes, rhine team

[urban sleet]

Nasti then yeah

[left tulip]

Which I’m not, but for my decision between the two I am asking meta wise

[pine plover]

Nasty gold

just dont pull smh

[opaque remnant]

it's all baseknights

[urban sleet]

Not sure how you decided to not go by meta yet ask who's meta between the two but what ori said, titi has seen some use, even if very niche, nasti 0

[opaque remnant]

meta wise, they both aren't that relevant

[bold trout]

How long do we have until Sui banner?

[ocean mulch]

August probably

[silver smelt]

regular army

[urban sleet]

2ish months

[undone portal]

titi s2 has at least demonstrated use in highdiff is
nasti is still potential woman

[spare jetty]

relicless woman

[pine plover]

entelechia's name means potential

[undone portal]

..unless you count ch'3n toilet strat being useful in ra

[opaque remnant]

stainless part 2 (but more fun)

[left tulip]

I am interested in both, but can "afford" only one of the two, since my subjective reasons can’t bring me to decide I’m asking based on meta, I thought I explained this alr

[spare jetty]

isn't it only need ~20 wood

[pine plover]

DnD artificer: build nuke
AK artificer: build scaffolding

[undone portal]

yea you have other ways to set up ranged tiles in ra so thats less an incentive to pull nasti and more to pull ch'3n

[ocean mulch]

Artificerslop is to blue less industrialized

[undone portal]

ch'3n s3 is a modern era ceobe and not enough people seem to be aware

[bold trout]

What's the avg monthly Orundum yield for f2p?

[ocean mulch]

50 pulls

[left tulip]

Also anything abt S3 from her btw

[urban sleet]

150 in 3 months includes from events btw

[undone portal]

titi s3s pretty underwhelming

[jade mantle]

at what level do i get full 180 sanity(is 180 still max)

[left tulip]

No applications for the sleep immortality ?

[ocean mulch]

CN Anni increase it to 210 if I remember

[bold trout]

Would 300 pulls by Sui banner be achievable with monthly pass then.. 💭 (am at 50 pulls saved rn)

[jade mantle]

what level is that

[ocean mulch]

Idk

[jade mantle]

do i need to get to 120 to get 180 sanity for now?

[ocean mulch]

Who are you sparking @bold trout

[pine plover]

tbf, we have Weakness damage in SP:alliance ( and )

[bold trout]

this bum named Chongyue

[undone portal]

the immortality necessarily puts operators to sleep, which means youre still losing out on dps regardless when your operators are dying onskill
s2 allows you to have more direct control on when its happening and who its going to

[ocean mulch]

All sleep leads to Blemishine

[opaque remnant]

did blemishine steal all my sleep time

[undone portal]

titi s3 more directly suffers from the 'why are your operators dying to begin with' question than silencealt/hoshialt s3s do

[median fable]

depends how much main/side story you have left
if you've cleared everything high chance you won't be able

maybe you will but it will be barely reaching that amount
(also remember 24 pulls are free)

[jade mantle]

is suzuran s3m3

[left tulip]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SuvdB4Eav
btw i know very little abt IS, do these mean smth for nasti

[abstract blade]

whats gonna happen to stronghold protocol in 8 days?

[spare jetty]

relicless which means 99% of the time u wont see it

[ocean mulch]

Genuine question

Who is the core OPs for sleep niche?

[left tulip]

May I ask how come not since as I said I don’t know much

[nocturne laurel]

gone

[bold trout]

At Chapter 9 in main story and have done all the Record Restoration up until Il Siracusano. Then every event is maxed on their first starting from Path of Life

[median fable]

go to Tomimi, filter by sleep tag, that's your sleepniche core

[abstract blade]

ok. does that game mode depend on my ops's stats the way IS does?

[undone portal]

relicless runs generally ask for more intricate stall setups since you dont have wis'adel + relics to nuke everything
nasti gives positioning flexibility + free sp

[nocturne laurel]

no

[left tulip]

In what sense specifically ?

[opaque remnant]

all free

[median fable]

you should be able if you keep grinding main and side story
prioririty to main story to unlock some mats recipes

[abstract blade]

so even as a complete newbie I wont be at a disadvantage huh. is there a guide for this mode?

[spare jetty]

just dont bother with nasti

[nocturne laurel]

#stronghold-hall pins

[pine plover]

it's autochess

[urban sleet]

Relicless-> no relics that buff you/debuff enemjes
D18-> highest difficulty
Low ops-> trying to clear with minimum ops possible

Do you think the average player will be in any one of these situations, let alone all 3 together

[shadow bay]

why this stage beep when red vagary thingies go to ur stove like ur leaking???

[bold trout]

Cool thanks man

[quick jolt]

you simply need to own the op, or borrow the ones you dont have (there are preset operators that you need to fill the slots of with either your own or a borrow)

[pine plover]

vagary is piss tile

[rose plaza]

Who should I be priotizing to level?

[left tulip]

Hmmm I mean probably not but that’s pretty interesting either way

[urban sleet]

Tbf relicless isnt even about non-average player, mkst d18 players dont play relicless either

[abstract blade]

but I can like borrow a ton of ops right?

[undone portal]

'low op relicless d18' is a pretty masochistic way to play is
and tragodia is doing like 90% of the work here

[quick jolt]

up to 20

if you're missing more than 20, prioritize the most important ones

[abstract blade]

whats autochess

[nocturne laurel]

pick up some welfares (tequila, kroos alter) in record restoration and baseslaves

[median fable]

relicless clears can be considered useful since it can help even non-relicless player learn how to approach a stage
the problem is that the Nasti clear there is really irrelevant

[pine plover]

[left tulip]

Btw I just noticed your server name still, why are you in the waiting room

[undone portal]

well, nasti hasnt arrived yet

[spare jetty]

so wait!

[left tulip]

Well yea I meant in the sense that, are you gonna be getting her once she drops and y

[undone portal]

im pulling for her entirely because im a rhinelab stan. her kit being interesting is just a nice bonus

[left tulip]

I see ty

[undone portal]

anyway that status will be different in a few days
-# and hopefully not to 'nastiless'

[hoary bramble]

is shalem good for a free tank?

[undone portal]

tank no, arts dps maybe if youre Really strapped for options

[vital kelp]

not a good art dps

defensive recovery is so shit

[undone portal]

he matches surtrs onskill dps
ignore what you need to do to get him there

20 def.rec honestly isnt even bad on a defender with the stats for it, i will shill hung/penance all day
its just that shalem doesnt really have the stats for it

[pine plover]

shoot him with aak

[marble viper]

[vital kelp]

in is2

against 0 res enemy

[undone portal]

shalem already matches her in gen content, is2 should push him further

[pine plover]

he can fills 15 out of 20 SP needed

[vital kelp]

against single target

[undone portal]

bbut he has 30% res shred

[vital kelp]

and i think u need a healer too

[undone portal]

oh yea, shalem with no healer kills himself lol

the random targeting is the real nail in the coffin. shalem got hit with the amiya s2 special

[shy quiver]

S2 or S3 for Tragodia?

[undone portal]

s2 almost always
theres uses for s3

[spare jetty]

2 normally

[shy quiver]

Ah okay, I've been using S3

[quick jolt]

s3 is still great, its just much more situational

his s2 summon is the main reason hes considered one of the best operators in the game

[undone portal]

^ catbomb gives you paralysis/lure on a very short cooldown and global range

[rain forge]

do we know what is7 is called or nah

[vital kelp]

not in english

[quick jolt]

the black flow of the drowning seekers

[vital kelp]

is that the official translation or

[undone portal]

yea, they showed the title on stream

[vital kelp]

oh, so they did

oh yeah, since they got a whole pv for it

[grim tree]

Does anyone know any fast clear guides for PR(Chip farming) stages?

[undone portal]

try youtube

[grim tree]

There's nothing

[median fable]

you are either:

1. baiting
2. not searching well enough (skill issue)
3. have some absurd definition of "fast clear"

[grim tree]

It's filled with afk guides only

[hollow furnace]

Should i finished kroo Atler story to E2 her quick ?

[opaque remnant]

e1 is enough

[undone portal]

the afk guides arent clearing any slower clear speed is gated by how quickly the enemies show up

[median fable]

get her but there is no need to e2 her, e1 is fine since you'll bench her once you get out of early chapters

[pine plover]

i dont remember finishing the side story gives the welfare promotion to E2

[grim tree]

Ah fck. Thanks for the answer. I just wanna see if I can make the clear speed faster but I guess it's for naught

[shy quiver]

Even if I'm not strategically using the lure aspect, is using it off cooldown and popping it onto enemies a fine way to use it?

[bright heart]

ok guys so can somebody tell me if blazealter is good?

[spare jetty]

mid

[grim tree]

mid

[undone portal]

yea, nervous proc on demand is pretty nice. free elemental dmg

[quick jolt]

yeah you can use it as a fast redeploy bomb. you're also able to retreat it to make it instantly explode, which is actually an important aspect to keep in mind

[undone portal]

doesnt take much brainpower to make good use of lure tbh

[shy quiver]

Gotcha, will swap to S2. Does it benefit much from specialisation?

[spare jetty]

oh um expect lure immune enemies

[bright heart]

yea thnx for the heads-up

[quick jolt]

there is one lure immune enemy in the game dw about that

[thorn oriole]

Sorry to disturb, guys. I accidently pull on leizi alter banner and got this baddie, is she worth it to up? Am new btw

[grim tree]

Who?

[quick jolt]

ju, is6 ed4 boss

[median fable]

if you're new and you don't have any other 6* art dps she's servicable since she's still a 6*
she's not a sunk cost unlike ops like Carnelian

[undone portal]

s2 masteries mostly just get it activated faster, the extra aspd on trag himself is usually fairly negligible

[opaque remnant]

after your DPS

[left tulip]

The deer as well

[shy quiver]

Thanks a bunch

[grim tree]

You already said she's a baddie. Follow your instincts my guy

[quick jolt]

yeah but i was excluding that because it doesnt move regardless

[undone portal]

ato ninjas

[opaque remnant]

hool is one and she's useless

[left tulip]

Wdym?

[quick jolt]

they're lure immune????

[bright heart]

i have many other units for DPS, just that i needed a good elementary damage source so i thought she was good

[grim tree]

She's not a baddie, she's just bad

[quick jolt]

which deer are you referring to before i confuse both of us more

[undone portal]

handful of the enemies in retracing our steps too. theres been several lure immune enemies introduced, almost immediately after act or die

[left tulip]

The one from retracing our steps it’s lure immune

[urban bolt]

Lapland alter boss is lure immune too

[spare jetty]

is it sash2 deers

[quick jolt]

according to wiki lure works on them, is it just lying

[opaque remnant]

isn't it the deers

[thorn oriole]

I already up Lappter and pralter to s2 lvl60, so i think it's time

[slate ridge]

Flyers

[undone portal]

yea its the deers iirc. ill go check enemy list

[thorn oriole]

Got it man

[left tulip]

Yes it is

[grim tree]

Btw, does the cat explosion affect drones?

[nocturne laurel]

are there more fear immune or lure immune enemies?

[quick jolt]

damn im stupid as fuck this is what i get for not using trag in gen content

[left tulip]

Yes (to silvers question)

[undone portal]

fear, if only because its been around for longer

[spare jetty]

lets hug

[slate ridge]

Fear should be more courtesy of being here longer
Theres only like 5 lure immune or something

[thorn oriole]

Oh btw are kaltsit still worth it to up? Even though i don't have mont3r?

[left tulip]

Did they ever add immunities to new stuff on old enemies

[quick jolt]

having mon3tr or not has nothing to do with kal, they're 2 different operators

[grim tree]

Yeah, she's still good

[left tulip]

M3 is her summon here

[undone portal]

what does not owning mon3tr have to do with it mon3tr 'the operator' and mon3tr 'the summon kal'tsit uses' are different

[grim tree]

Even if you have mon3tr(the operator), I think you'd still find use for Kal

[thorn oriole]

Ow man, am getting fried by her skill, it say that her skill is very tied with mont3r, it makes me nervous 😹

[left tulip]

M3 is her summon

[undone portal]

tap the 'summon' icon at the bottom to read about it

[thorn oriole]

I I thought mont3r was referring to the operator of the same name, that's quite embarrassing I think

[undone portal]

when you deploy kal'tsit, youll get a mon3tr in your deploy bar to place after
same principle for any operator with a summon

[slim tusk]

something2 compu gacha bad

[slate ridge]

Most updated immunities come from CC
Theres also some like CS that gains innate silence immunity ig without risks

[left tulip]

I see

[thorn oriole]

Okok, i get it, thanks man

[undone portal]

hoyoslop 🥹

[slim tusk]

imagine if they sell revenant apart

[undone portal]

you joke now but when wis'adel reconvener gets put in endfield thats exactly whatll happen

[spare jetty]

playable cluster of rocks from wisadele

[left tulip]

What will they name her tho

[odd sky]

Roach

[wide knot]

Is he good?

[undone portal]

terrible
also dont send screenshots, we have everyones names memorized here

[wide knot]

Oh alright

[undone portal]

-# bloop spotted

[wide knot]

Why is he terrible though?

[grim tree]

One of the worst I must say

[undone portal]

paper thin defenses, his only real job is dealing dmg in a world where dozens of better damage dealers exist

his one 'niche' of being immune to negative status is straight up done better by pepe/lee

[wide knot]

Oof guess imma cry about it😭

[undone portal]

such is the life of the welfare 6star

unless your name is patrizion/raidian/elena in which case youre allowed to be good

[pine plover]

lesser being

[median fable]

contender for worst 6* in the game

not worst probably since Carne exists I guess

[pine plover]

vey

[nimble kite]

Dreadnought Subclass as first issue.

[slim tusk]

i thougth we cemented siege is the worst

[median fable]

nevermind, I forgot about SIege

such a useless operator

[undone portal]

siege known vanguardknights goat. im still inclined to keep the crown on carnelian

[sand grail]

welfare unit are mostly worth their price (which is 0)
exceptions are kroo2, tequila, gladia (only if you have ulpianus), raidian

[undone portal]

and wanqing/skybox soon

[median fable]

also Vakaris I guess

[vital kelp]

and vigil

[median fable]

I've seen what you've done here

[vital kelp]

hes a good reception worker

[undone portal]

will there be an angle to suggest varkaris for e2 voucher while hes up

[abstract mauve]

considering it

if the issue with specter is that her skill makes her get stunned, then varkaris doesnt have that issue

[shadow bay]

i have 249 pills should i pull nasti??? 🥹

[slim tusk]

take your pills

[undone portal]

varkaris also has barrier for improved survival. seems like a decent angle

[shadow bay]

oh we have already pins for nasti

[undone portal]

actually @abstract mauve while youre here. is skybox e2 voucher real

seems objectively good if not for the fact he suffers the same 'does jackshit offskill' kit design that made help channel give up on suggesting tequila

[pine plover]

well, the event is littered with drones

[undone portal]

event does have drones for him to block, this is true
prepping the skybox propaganda speech it is

[vital kelp]

chat what does nasti s1 and s2 do all i know is she make ranged tile

[undone portal]

idk. any newbie with enough game knowledge to understand why skybox is good would probably get good mileage out of tequila anyway. im conflicted

[grim tree]

Shield and idk

[opaque remnant]

S2 is stainless part 2 but instant

[vital kelp]

shield or barrier

what is part 2

[undone portal]

s1: atk/def/+1 block, gives 'target count = block count'
s2: hp barrier/sp

using nasti s1 so spectalt s2 finally works like a centurion 🥹

[vital kelp]

is nasti s1 + flag module tech real

if im using yatoalt s1 with 3 flag module for 4 block, against 4 enemy which enemies would get the multi-hit attack from attacking multiple times

[undone portal]

i would assume everyone, since the skill would just track how many hits each enemy has taken from her
sounds worth testing though

nasti/yatoalt s1 tech might just be real

[left tulip]

Is vakaris a good op outside of the good for newbies angle btw

[undone portal]

not really. awfully generic kit design, basically just 'humus if he was a centurion'

[vital kelp]

wao

[left tulip]

I see unfort

[vital kelp]

does nasti s1 only work on melee people

[bold mist]

Is suzu still usable, and if so whats her best skill

[vital kelp]

eh and s3

[undone portal]

i feel like if nasti s1 enabled multitargeting for ranged ops i wouldve heard something about it

[nimble kite]

Niche for bosskill/CC, and S3.

[lethal orbit]

hey y'all newbie here, should i be getting leveel 5 pro enhancement pack for 1 originium from store?

[vital kelp]

if multiple target for zima2 s2 does that mean its similar to wisadel s2

[bold mist]

Precious it

[vital kelp]

yes, its free material

[nimble kite]

Always buy those, you lose nothing. You can see Orundum gain over its price.

[lethal orbit]

ok thank you

[undone portal]

should be

[lethal orbit]

so level 10 for 3 as well then I assume?

[nimble kite]

All of them.
1 = 180 on convertion rate. So you can compare price to Orundum gain and you will see that you basically didn't lose in pulls at all.

[vital kelp]

how come no one came up with this tech before

[undone portal]

i do think zimaalt might get better use out of pairing s3 + nasti s3 though. depends on how the dps works out

[vital kelp]

whats the english name of sanguinarch boss

[nimble kite]

Ep13 Vampire Emo boi.

[lethal orbit]

Alright thank you for help. What banners are newbies recommended to wait for? someone from a different banner said till Wang in July

[undone portal]

duqarael?

[balmy panther]

Duraq'el or smting

[vital kelp]

[nimble kite]

Wang in Summer, yes. Wait for him.

[undone portal]

yea save for wang/ch'3n
afterwards, for kal'alt

[inner bramble]

if I want to use Civlight Eterna which skill should I master? Any skill that's used more often?

[lethal orbit]

Ok thank you, long waiting time

[balmy panther]

2 and 3 switching on what you need

[vital kelp]

depends on what u wanna use her for

[undone portal]

s2 mainly, for the atk inspiration + 30sec bind

[opaque remnant]

how does S1 work with lord guards

it'd be funny if saki could spam more notes

[nimble kite]

S2 is more often (?) skill that allows her to kill enemies. S3 is a panic button that unallows ops to die fast by mitigating damage.

[undone portal]

civ.eterna s3 is still arguably the best burst survival button in the game but theres yet to be a proven highend use for it

[vital kelp]

wouldnt that be silencealt s3

[undone portal]

would be hoshialt s3 then if we're counting 10sec immortality as a better option. hoshi gives it out to everyone in range

[opaque remnant]

I forgot she does the immortality for everyone

[vital kelp]

but she kills herself after

thats not real survival is it, silencealt keeps herself alive too

[opaque remnant]

it counts if all your enemies are dead

[lethal orbit]

These are the units I have right now, I am on chapter 2 of the story. I have a few questions

1. What or who should I focus on?
2. Anyone of these I should focus on promoting to elite?
3. From the day 14 mail ticket, should I continue going for Specter or go for Tequilla instead?

[obtuse obsidian]

Issue with this unlike silence alter this wont proc

The reason for this is hoshi kill enemies before they kill allied unlike silence :clueful:

[undone portal]

focus on getting a full squad to e1lv30ish, then get silverash/blaze to e2 first
use your e2/lv80 vouchers on tequila

[static glade]

Is bibeak good

[lethal orbit]

I have resources to E1 Amiya rn, I should go for it right

[obtuse obsidian]

Nah skip her for now

[opaque remnant]

base, don't buy her from shop

[static glade]

Ok ok, so any other good CC ops

[vital kelp]

no

[static glade]

[undone portal]

the cc welfares are all pretty bad

[vital kelp]

erato is niche ig

[nocturne laurel]

ethan

[vital kelp]

ethan is not a cc welfare

[static glade]

I thought bibeak was kinda good since I got her for free in IS but oh well

[nocturne laurel]

oh right only cert shop

[obtuse obsidian]

Bibeak is kinda fine for a 5 star

But its not something a regular player will have much use off

[torpid ridge]

Which vanguard silverash to m3 first?

[undone portal]

i mean, bibeak benefits a lot from extra atk scale and sp, both of which exist in abundance in is

[opaque remnant]

shove her into base with teq/sham

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbf even if you get her as temp in is2 she would be nice

[static glade]

I see I see

[opaque remnant]

oh, temp recruit?

[obtuse obsidian]

Mostly cause she is better then any 0 hope option

[undone portal]

temp recs are usually pretty nice specifically because of the free hope cost

[static glade]

Yeah, her s2 was nice ig, stun skill with charges

[undone portal]

for base usage, bibeak/kafka/paprika/diamante are all basically identical. pick one and cycle together with shamare/tequila

shamare needs to be e2 for the team to work

[slate ridge]

because its not a thing ?

[tawny turret]

guys, anyone worth to build within these 6 stars in preparation of vector breakthrough?

[ancient lintel]

Ceobe CS and her highness maybe

[obtuse obsidian]

Idk about vector

But if this is a niche raise for stacked account you can go ceobe or cs maybe

[undone portal]

ceobe/crownslayer might see a little use for vb i suppose
idk vb2 is kinda just a blazealt playground as far as i can tell

[ancient lintel]

VB demands a bunch of e2s by default cause u gotta beat stages with ops and keep those ops there to maintain buffs

[obtuse obsidian]

Ling last usage

[tawny turret]

yeah thats true

[undone portal]

e2 quantity is not a concern for someone with the resources to e2 such hits as leontuzzo bellone

[ancient lintel]

It's a roster check basically, if u dont have at least 20 e2s ur not doing VB

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbf if you use brain (dont have to be yours) you probably need less e2s

[undone portal]

vb is definitely the least accessible event for newbies
-# at least, it is now that theyve retired design of strife

[ancient lintel]

Right, I can just use Mr K or Mr E's brain

[tawny turret]

this my main 6s, the rest are meh 5s:

[obtuse obsidian]

Vb is just dos at home

[languid pagoda]

what are the main stages people usually use for trust farms if there arent any events happening?

[ancient lintel]

U have more than enough for VB I guess

[obtuse obsidian]

Whatever i try to farm

So red cert lol

[undone portal]

youll be fine

[ancient lintel]

1-7, AP-5, AC-5 are my gotos

[undone portal]

chips, redcerts, 1-7 for rocks
take your pick

[obtuse obsidian]

Dont overthink trust farming tbh

In a while you will be running around with 3 ops to trust farm and 9 empty slots

[ancient lintel]

I mean maaaaybe you'll get caught lacking but I think this looks good, not sure if u can do all out effort but VEC-12 is definitely within reach

[tawny turret]

hmm i felt very lacking last VB.. i want to get all medals this time around

[undone portal]

vb2 misery boss fight is like, very blatantly a blazealt check. its mostly just having enough other ops to garrison and gather buffs

[left tulip]

What alternatives are there

[obtuse obsidian]

Oh its misery

I guess misery copium for Is8 is high now that is7 have last vector boss

[undone portal]

having fresh bodies for misery to kill

[crude monolith]

ive been using vigil for sometime and im happy with his performance. i guess his strenght come more from his archetype being good rather than the unit itself (imo tacticians are great)

[left tulip]

I see

[undone portal]

yea tacticians are one of those archetypes i feel comfortable calling inherently good by design

[left tulip]

Ive seen the 3 op clears w blaze wang and I forgot who

[undone portal]

vigil is honestly pretty decent. its just, a high tier dps option he is not

[gleaming mason]

[obtuse obsidian]

Liberator tacticians and who else?

Feel like agents can be hit or miss

[vital kelp]

this is not true

vigil is good in dps but not in practice

[undone portal]

skadialt iirc. so blaze gets back up faster

[quaint valve]

Do we farm Oriron cluster, or the lower tier?

[left tulip]

Ah yes correct

[ancient lintel]

I have blaze alt on my alt not my main

[obtuse obsidian]

Check /material Command in #bot-spam

Or /materials whatever

[undone portal]

i would also say agents/guardians/reapers are inherently good

[ancient lintel]

And during the process of getting her on my alt I got 5 trags
Dunno if I should be happy or sad lol

[obtuse obsidian]

I feel like reaper have a big issue in enmity but i guess am too IS pilled

[left tulip]

I wish the last lord wasn’t a limited limited

[obtuse obsidian]

Sakiko aint limited
Shes collab

[undone portal]

humus is a comfy cheap draft and entelechia sees is6 use so its honestly not a bad place for them
i would also shill is3 highmore if not for d18 rendering every melee op close to useless

[left tulip]

oh wow I didn’t know

[static glade]

Is raidian good for 1-7 solo clears for trust

[ancient lintel]

Motherbroods sure is a pain

[obtuse obsidian]

Dw i shill highmore is3 when i can regardless

[opaque remnant]

it entirely depends whether the skill is offensive recovery or auto

if it's offensive then they're fucked

[gleaming mason]

Is it really decent to start the game with LeiziAlt cuz damn 65 reroll and still nothing in sight

[ancient lintel]

Ente start VGG ya

[formal shadow]

it is

[ancient lintel]

I mean u got 1 of the best and flexible guards so why not

[static glade]

Luck issue

[vital kelp]

did u not get her

[ancient lintel]

M9 candidate btw