help

[acoustic atlas]

what the fuck
why is it disabled
💀

[formal shadow]

didn't equip

[abstract blade]

damn I have too many of those. who kills the people I'm laneholding? tequila?

[acoustic atlas]

why are all my mods disabled 💀

[pale tapir]

you didn't equip them in the squad screen

[formal shadow]

the lane holder kills too. if not they'd be called stallers

[broken flame]

Laneholder means they hold the lane by killing the enemies coming down that lane and not leaking them

[abstract blade]

guys should I use amiya or steward as my caster?

[abstract blade]

ah gotcha. and they should be 1 per lane right?

[wintry steppe]

Why not both

[ancient lintel]

Steward's more cost effective imo

[broken flame]

Yeah unless you can make a singular path, just deploy them as needed adapt to what the stage requires.

[abstract blade]

does sussro and ptoplis need e1 to be good? im low on medic chips

[vital kelp]

idealy u want to e1 most of ur squad

[nimble kite]

The problem is, S2 cycles on E1 is not enough to procc the new S2 back to back, since he gain more HP than lose it.

S2 Sl7 is 24 SP Cost, btw, which isn't fast for him, even with talent.

[vital kelp]

the barrier loss is 200 per second, its not that lot

12 s cooldown for 90% shield, which is around 2500 at e1 max, plus any healing he gets with auto

[abstract blade]

i'll go grind medic chips then

[nimble kite]

...I think you didn't understand the problem I just described, but anyway, I still stand with Kal.

[abstract blade]

surfer is just a better fang, right?

[vital kelp]

different use but definitely better

[pale tapir]

she operates differently from fang but is much better yes

[nimble kite]

She works differently from Fang. To farm DP, she needs to hit enemies with skill.

[abstract blade]

but they fill a similar role. who should my vanguards be

[nimble kite]

Use both tbh.

[vital kelp]

ur worrying about the downtime, yes? its 12 second hes not gonna die with one block and leftover barrier, meanwhile u can place a defender behind him

after 12 second he's gonna kill the enemy and still be left with shield

[abstract blade]

and no noire carne or beansprout? ok

[nimble kite]

The problem is not dying, it's leaking. It's not 12 seconds, since for his 70% talent, which it never happen, because, as you remember, he heals through the enemy hits.

[abstract blade]

who should I use for aoe? lava or humus?

[nimble kite]

70% thing disables, you leave with lower 20%.

[vital kelp]

its close to 12 second because he heals 50 at e1, which is pretty damn low, and loses 50% current not max hp

[nimble kite]

Yeah, but it still 50% MaxHP on first S2 activation, and even going 51%, he still have his talent weakened.

[broken flame]

do you have aoe problems

[safe tundra]

what trash mob exactly are we talking about

[vital kelp]

its a linear scale, at e1 he's talent is max at 60% hp loss, so at worst he'll have like 15 second of cooldown for the first activation

[abstract blade]

probably will in the future

[vital kelp]

after the second activation it's unlikely he'll be above the 40% line

[abstract blade]

ive been just using supporter ops for now

[obtuse obsidian]

What kinda of supporter

[vital kelp]

note that, given the scenario both takes 2 deployment slot, zuole will have a defender behind him when skill is down

and kal s2 at e1 also has 12 sp cooldown, while i believe mon3tr dps is lower outside skill

[safe tundra]

the gambit is to highroll inj2
thoughts?

[broken flame]

Specter and Ulpi are AoE. If you need more, just use Tequila

[robust thistle]

High roll what

[safe tundra]

:glueless:

[obtuse obsidian]

Yes thats pretty good idea (no i have no idea what this mean)

[abstract blade]

ulp's s2 is better than s1 right

[robust thistle]

I mean have you seen his s1

[runic willow]

If you're bringing sash2/ines anyways, wouldn't either solve zuo leak issue and take a total of 2 slots over kals 3

[proven kelp]

Just don't use Zuo smh

[safe tundra]

what if i suck and dont get vanguard ticket

[odd sky]

what is this convo

[broken flame]

Zuo Le or Kal'tsit better as a laneholder at E1

[nimble kite]

Zuo VS Kal for newbie that has nothing else.

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure kal would do a lot better

[nimble kite]

That's my point.

[robust thistle]

If youre bringing in e1 zuo le, you're either using him crippled or youre slotting in another op to cover his downtime anyways

[pale tapir]

lol
bro gonna have to use both anyway

[proven kelp]

Kal is better
M3 is really tanky
and you know, a spammable multi hit skill

[vital kelp]

kal takes 2 deployment slot either way

[safe tundra]

that was stars point. both of them are deploying the 2nd party

[vital kelp]

and literally zuole has a spammable multihit skill

12 sp vs effective 12 sp

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure zuo le has lower dph

[broken flame]

Zuo Le with someone behind him is also 2 no?

[robust thistle]

Plus him being unhealable is a burden if he cant sustain himself effectively

[broken flame]

He's approaching ch.10 soon Mon3tr will be useful

[robust thistle]

At least kal is a personal babysitter

[odd sky]

gravel zuo le tech?

[proven kelp]

Yes but Zuo is 2 vs Kal's 3

And Zuo isn't really 12 SP too since he is not reaching the max SP gen his e1 talent gives
E1 max is at 40% HP, s2 only gets you to 50% HP, then he will heal back up since he is hitting and he is not losing since he has barrier, so Kal is almost always going to be faster

[broken flame]

Anyway they have Specter E2 and Ulpi E1. Laneholder fiesta in this house

[safe tundra]

whos they

[pale tapir]

plus humus and grace
bro chillin

[safe tundra]

idt we were even referring to a person

its just a sole kal vs zuo le argument

[broken flame]

it's based on their account so yeah

[vital kelp]

50 per hit its unlikely they'll be above 40% after the second activation

and... they just said they at 9-6 bruh chapter 10 is a whole ass hurl away

[coarse tide]

Its been awhile, how good is closure

[broken flame]

good, nothing crazy

[vital kelp]

possibly meta in cc unless they have tags against her
outside shes decent

[coarse tide]

What about kaslat

[robust thistle]

At least better than mumu

[broken flame]

and cute vampire so pull

[vital kelp]

kal is decent with niche that is actually dreamable

[coarse tide]

Ok so skip banner

[vital kelp]

well, she has multiple niche, one is kinda ass being leviate block or something but the other is dreamable

[proven kelp]

Lol no?
9 hits and he's back outside of his max SP gen range lol from 2 cast of s2
with ASPD buff he is hitting fast

[opaque remnant]

the other is just basically being immune to damage right

[vital kelp]

Each hit is like 2% max hp cuz 50 is 2% of 2500
His hp won’t be getting higher and higher

[nimble kite]

Like I said earlier, wanna try his E1 in IS? Just as reference.

[abstract blade]

ok how do I use tequila properly? if I put a defender in front of him he doesnt have enough range to hit the guy being blocked. does he need his s2 that badly?

[odd sky]

put him infront of the defender

[broken flame]

put him in front of the defender/laneholder, they will pass through him, he doesn't block anyone off-skill by virtue of being a liberator

[opaque remnant]

yes he needs his S2

[nimble kite]

His only skill is S2, and yeah, you put in front of defender.

[abstract blade]

wont they just kill him if I do that

[opaque remnant]

a good portions of ops benefit massively from e1 and e2

[nimble kite]

Look at his HP amount, will ya?

I believe your Defender doesn't have much of it.

[obtuse obsidian]

the other is having slow for typhon IS comb

[odd sky]

he doesn't block off-skill, so only ranged enemies will hit him and high hp

[broken flame]

they will ignore him until you press S2 in which case he can survive anyway as he kills them

[abstract blade]

damn ok I thought he was fragile

[obtuse obsidian]

he is quite tanky

[broken flame]

Reason why Mlynar taunt is as good as it is. Liberators fat

[odd sky]

rude

[obtuse obsidian]

(the base attack is low cause trait)

[obtuse obsidian]

its good until faust D15+

[nimble kite]

Just use Gravel

[obtuse obsidian]

at least say yato or something with taunt wtf

[urban sleet]

-# lee s3

[nimble kite]

TexasAlter like ol' days

[static glade]

Bubbles

[obtuse obsidian]

somehow she will die while faust shot mlynar

idk how but she will

[broken flame]

she's an empath

[nimble kite]

Just not use her near enemies, ez.

[proven kelp]

No idea what you meant

E1 Max Zuo has a HP of 2893
Half of it is 1446, another half is 723
To reach Max SP gen his HP needs to be below 1157
Also his Heal is 70 per hit, just doubled check his trait

So he needs 7 hits to get back over 1157 HP

I honestly not sure how the math works for ASPD
So i'm gonna assume his attack interval is like 0.6 sec with 50 ASPD
It will take him, 4 sec to get outside of his max HP range

He is never going to be effectively 12 SP s2 outside of spamming it for the sake of spamming it

Also Zuo s2 only last for 12 sec vs Kal 17, so he is worse by default already

[opaque remnant]

why are we arguing about kal and zuo le again?

[proven kelp]

He is really likes Zuo for some reason

[nimble kite]

To advise the newbie what to level first.

[odd sky]

i think the guy is gone now tho

[opaque remnant]

is the newbie even still here?

[nimble kite]

His other option amongst SixStars only Ulpipi

[wraith shell]

I already did this at pv s 1 lit the chilly fireworks and cleared it with 3 stars should i do it in CM? To get this?

[static glade]

Bro left long ago

[nimble kite]

I guess not.

[broken flame]

He's busy playing now

[odd sky]

pv-sp-1 is normal stage far right

[proven kelp]

Fight against Misinfo
Its not about helping newbies anymore

[nimble kite]

PV-SP-1

[broken flame]

i didn't even use my S2M3 Zuo Le until he had his Mod ngl

[proven kelp]

I wish i can delete my Zuo

[nimble kite]

I wish Zuo gets deleted from every single acc.

[proven kelp]

So True!

[odd sky]

yo chill

[static glade]

Oh uhhh the dude was asking what ops to raise I think and then people suggested kalt'tsit and zuo le

But if you ask me, medics and healers are the heart of everyteam (including DnD) no matter how much I like Zuo Le, kalt'tsit is the top priority

[lyric lagoon]

it's pv-sp, not pv-s

[proven kelp]

I won't even recommoned Zuo aside from barebones acc

[wraith shell]

Oh dam didnt see that shi i thought its done after pv 10 thanks

[static glade]

Js raise who you like and bear the consequences people from #help are just here to give you advice not control you, you have free will

[proven kelp]

Lies

[broken flame]

Mon3tr is useful in a lot of situations and you can redeploy her to act as bait or bodyblock. Can't really do that with Zuo Le without waiting for his full rdp time. Plus, they already have E2 Specter and E1 Ulpi anyway. I'd rather have Kal'tsit flexibility. Gets her closer to E2 too, for a true dmg source if needed

[opaque remnant]

yeah sorry, this isn't #arknights

[static glade]

🥹

[wraith shell]

But he's recommended back in the orienteering with ulpi and trago i also thought he's useful

[lyric lagoon]

unless kalter... it all leads back to kaltsit

[opaque remnant]

because he's the best for the 3rd option compared to the rest

[lyric lagoon]

cause he's the least worst of the worst on that banner

[formal shadow]

faust d15? regular army or something?

[proven kelp]

He is recommended because he is the least shit on the option

Its like picking between a Gun, Gun 2, a Slignshot, Stone, Stone 2, Stone 3

[livid crest]

What would happen if I have all of a free unit's potential tokens and when the event story gets added to the terminal and obtained the max pot letter token thing and used it to max said free unit's potential to the max, are those individual token pots gone and turned into yellow certs? Say I'm not present in the event debut and came in when the rerun happens

[sonic crown]

Hmm who should i upgrade

[static glade]

Gone.

[formal shadow]

your tokens get eaten

[obtuse obsidian]

IS3 wonderland

which is worse cause its arts faust

[opaque remnant]

post your krooster account

[sonic crown]

Kroos?

[formal shadow]

oh that guy

[wraith shell]

Yeah and i ended up raising him its fine i dont have anyone to raise anyway

[opaque remnant]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[nimble kite]

IS3 ISW-DF "Hunting Group"

[harsh marsh]

is there a RA guide in the pins?

[obtuse obsidian]

actually wait phy faust is maybe worse

[proven kelp]

My condolences, I would rather just pre farm upcoming units

[opaque remnant]

it's in roadless camelot

[sonic crown]

Oh rigth sorry

[harsh marsh]

thanks

[static glade]

Also raise QiuBai and Suzuran

[wraith shell]

Yeah welp wont happen again

[safe tundra]

physical faust is a funny description because im very sure the original is exactly that

[sonic crown]

Why?

I already had thorns,degenbreacher.

[static glade]

Jk, since I like them ofc

[broken flame]

raise Angelina if you play IS a lot

[obtuse obsidian]

will i meant the og would be worse in D15+ setting

[sonic crown]

Rigth,uh quick question Is it crownslayer is any good?

[nimble kite]

Pins

[safe tundra]

i can see that

[sonic crown]

Damn

[pale tapir]

if you need a stunbot and have a million LMD + a bunch of exp cards + mod blocks + mats laying around she'll do that for ya tho

[livid crest]

Between those 3 tier 3 mats on this event rerun shop, which one's best to buy for? Buy all equal?

[broken flame]

i regret raising Zuo Le because now I'm broke for Leizi smfh

[nimble kite]

Ask Planner and pick whatever you need more in high amounts.

[proven kelp]

Just buy whatever you need more
They will come back in the next Shop anyway lol, no need to think too hard about it

[opaque remnant]

nasti event won't be immediately after il porta rerun right? I need to restock on catalysts and modblocks...

[nimble kite]

We don't know

[obtuse obsidian]

they usually reveal new ops few days before event

think its like 2 days or 3 days

[worldly fern]

they'll probably announce her tomorrow

[abstract blade]

I'm doing 9-4 right now. how do I deal with the casters up top?

[nimble kite]

Ines (works on CM too)

[abstract blade]

they kinda just kill whoever I send up there. and I cant put melee up there either

[abstract blade]

im trying to do this without support ops

[nimble kite]

Then any Lord Guard. Even Midnight 3☆.

Concentrate on one, kill another later.

[abstract blade]

huh. thats a very specific solution. I'll go build up my silverash then

[abstract blade]

via redeployment right

[nimble kite]

Ofc

[languid fiber]

Should I download both or just english track will suffice ?

[nimble kite]

As you wish. Some collab characters lacks either JP or EN.

[worldly fern]

it's up to your preference

[abstract blade]

I checked. silverash doesnt reach

[languid fiber]

Oke

[abstract blade]

oh nvm I didnt see the melee tile

[nimble kite]

Actually, I didn't remember there's two casters on each side.

Hope his HP will be enough to deal with both.

[wide knot]

Can you document your progress?

[nimble kite]

Also, I saw the map, you can also kill Casters via Marksman + Bait (Gravel, Spot).

[abstract blade]

oh I thought they couldnt see down there

[languid fiber]

I can, but where ? which channel ?

[abstract blade]

the bait will be useless for anything else

[wide knot]

Oh I was planning it to be a pm since I am curious what a new player would do but you can do it in #arknights

[languid fiber]

Oke

[abstract blade]

so. gravel just fucking died in like 10 seconds

[nimble kite]

[abstract blade]

she does not have any res, it turns out

[faint merlin]

Yooo uh im tryna get one of the last medals in this event. It says to set off chilly thing in pv 1 which i did in the ss. I still havent gotten the medal. Did i do something wrong

[abstract blade]

will silverash meet the same fate or does he actually have res

[opaque remnant]

SP

[faint merlin]

Fuck

[nimble kite]

10 RES, but 2k HP on E1-80.
I believe he will also live like 10 seconds.

[faint merlin]

Alr ty lmaooo

[abstract blade]

so how do I deal with them

[nimble kite]

https://youtu.be/TzGrxHySiAg
Still Marksman + Bait, really.
Right side is just Steward + Kroos.

For left one he just used Catapult to outrange them.

[faint merlin]

Wait so is it just pv s 1 on challenge mode? If not, wheres sp

[nimble kite]

Normal stages near PV-10.

[faint merlin]

Ic i love u guys

[stray gust]

quick question guys, how bad is it for me to dump a 10 pulls in standard for 1% leizi2 or 33% canta?

[odd sky]

it's not 1% leizi tho

[stray gust]

oh, 0.5% leizi2

[hearty gazelle]

how do you log out in ak?

[odd sky]

and no the rates and too shit

[odd sky]

you mean log out your acc? setting log out somewhere

[hearty gazelle]

yes from acc imma clear the acc before deleting ldp

is this fine?

[proven kelp]

I mean, why do you need to log out
Just delete the LD outright.

[hearty gazelle]

to be safe

[robust thistle]

?

[coarse notch]

you can just login to yostar account center in your browser and revoke access to the emulated device

[nimble kite]

I mean, you can deactivate old logins from Settings > User Center > Manage Devices, if you forgot to do that in advance.

Same menu is for log out or account switch, btw.

[abstract blade]

ok how do I deal with casters. they kill my defenders

[proven kelp]

Use Healing defenders as baits instead, they have Res

[abstract blade]

whats 10 res gonna do?

[proven kelp]

Its 10% Dmg red?

[gritty basin]

[abstract blade]

oh I thought it was -10 damage. still that doesnt feel like enough

[coarse notch]

that would be so piss useless

[candid forge]

If I were to complete most/all of Radian's skill/talent/pot requirements on IS but not her ranks, would it catapult me to completion at the moment of unlocking them, or do I need to do them again AFTER those promotions?

[nimble kite]

Dude, I already thrown Kyo guide at you. He just tank this shit by simple Steward.

[proven kelp]

I mean, its your best alternative to tanking Arts Dmg aside from just killing the shit before they dmg you enough lol

[coarse notch]

the bait doesnt have to live very long, they just need to live long enough for your ranged unit to kill the casters

[nimble kite]

He said "no SupportUnits" 🥀

[coarse notch]

what was wrong with using a lord btw

you can also unironically use catapult here

[nimble kite]

You can complete locked upgrades in advance, so you can open them as soon as you unlock the previous one.

If you asked about that.

<@&586570970345635868> mista bist

[formal shadow]

mods asleep

[safe tundra]

wow free 50$ ty

[nimble kite]

As usual

[wintry steppe]

I thought 10% is also useless

[tawny bear]

Thank you for deleting it

[nimble kite]

You have some chats yet, use your search and delete the rest. And maybe you will survive the mods.

[safe tundra]

RES scales upto 100 and beyond so unaccounting the minimum damage dealt, arts damage can possibly do jackshit

[weak nova]

Is this enough for JT8-3 challenge mode and haruka?

[weak nova]

(Haruka as a support unit)

[safe tundra]

surviving the entire stage, sure. maybe abit less on killing DBS

[weak nova]

Do I need to upg skadi?

[safe tundra]

not her no

[weak nova]

Oop or do I need to get better operators?

[nimble kite]

Overkill Squad.

[weak nova]

What's an overkill squad

[nimble kite]

Squad that is overkill for this map

[weak nova]

Ohh okay thank you y'all!

[safe tundra]

JT8-3 cm lowkey easier than JT8-2 cm

[indigo spoke]

how to avoid afk people? like i barely play this mode but there always afk people

[nimble kite]

Create a local team and play with friends.

[safe tundra]

hold a party instead of public matchmaking

[indigo spoke]

thats sound hard

[safe tundra]

good pub is like a needle in a haybale

[indigo spoke]

nvm afk people is better

[safe tundra]

[proven kelp]

ril

[obtuse obsidian]

can also just solo smh

[sonic crown]

Should i pull for Leizi?

So i gonna save up for who?

[nimble kite]

Wang.

[soft lion]

about how long does a standard Op need to be released to be in the shop?

[knotty wave]

2 yrs

[nimble kite]

2 years from his banner debut.

[soft lion]

Fuck ty goodbye haruka

[nimble kite]

Yeah, goodbye Haruka

[knotty wave]

just wait for orienteering with haruka

[soft lion]

friendship Continued w Eyja now Haruka Not Needed /cope

btw, is Chen3 great or kinda mid? (wang banner)

[knotty wave]

its not like you need haruka anyway, its just a want

[soft lion]

is true i just like Healy Anime Gurl ok /lh

[coarse notch]

very good

2nd strongest upcoming new unit

[soft lion]

oh, really? so Wang's banner is super loaded?

[coarse notch]

one of the strongest banners in history yes

[nimble kite]

Wang'adel

[soft lion]

huhhh, what does Chen3 do? i havent paid attention to her

[coarse notch]

massive damage

[nimble kite]

S3 summons dragon that deals not fixed damage, but captures the current % Enemy HP.

The more enemy has overbloated HP, the more damage she does. Especially effective on RA bosses.

[coarse notch]

high quality damage due to weakness targeting
5.5k dps to three targets on s3 without her dragon

[nimble kite]

The issue might be Arts damage source, but I think you can easily shred it with Ifrit S3, will ya?

[coarse notch]

wdym

[nimble kite]

The dragon damage.

[coarse notch]

i mean she still has 5.5k weakness dps regardless

[vital kelp]

whats her dph

[young path]

wtf do i still get the full rewards if i afk in a public lobby? im too lazy to play that gamemode

[indigo spoke]

no

[soft lion]

"Captures"? 🤔

like deals %-based dmg?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[coarse notch]

it does %current hp damage

[nimble kite]

If it's lower, then does 500% ATK value instead.

[soft lion]

interesting...is it affected by DEF or RES at all? idt ive seen an Op use %-base before

oh so they thought of that as well

[brazen gulch]

should bypass most mitigation effects if it's any similar to ente s3

or is it Arts

[soft lion]

mmm, im guessing its ST (single tgt)? dont tell me its AOE

[grim forum]

is thrm-ex worth anything

[nimble kite]

Fragile bosses if you don't have anything else.

[vital kelp]

its aoe but it doesnt bypass resistance

[nimble kite]

To pinch out necessary damage.

[brazen gulch]

nvm it is Arts, so will be mitigated by res etc

[grim forum]

@nimble kite what's the best early/midgame vanguard

currently using courier, is that fine to build?

[nimble kite]

Fang. Should be cheaper Fang.

[obtuse obsidian]

main 0 hope pick up in IS 2 3 4

[grim forum]

my fang is basically maxed out

[nimble kite]

That's good.
Then Surfer/Cantable at your choice and having.

[obtuse obsidian]

would not e2 a vanguard other then agent/stratgiest if thats what you mean to build as early/mid game

[soft lion]

thank you pikafat ❤️ /jj

[grim forum]

i looked it up and i have neither

[nimble kite]

Too bad. If your team is very expensive, you may use Myrtle for now. Just E1 her and Sl7.

[coarse notch]

the dragon does weakness damage

[nimble kite]

Wait, fr?

[brazen gulch]

Sends a shockwave of sword energy upon skill activation. The shockwave is able to turn, and deals Arts DMG equal to 6% of their current HP to enemies that it passes through
am i stupid

[coarse notch]

had to check prts because the en wiki is wrong

[brazen gulch]

oh it is?

[grim forum]

my fang is maxed out so this is my 2nd vanguard, he's basically on the doorstep

[coarse notch]

talent 1 in game states that her attacks are weakness damage
prts has a footnote stating that its all physical and arts damage dealt

[nimble kite]

...Doorstep to stop leveling him.

[obtuse obsidian]

at this point he is better then fang

dont invest further

[grim forum]

i was losing early game so badly that i maxed them both out of desperation and it actually worked out

[coarse notch]

因描述与游戏实际表现不符合，我们对其进行了修正
"because the gameplay doesn't match the description, we've elected to make some edits"

[nimble kite]

Well, I guess you can use both for now.

[obtuse obsidian]

once you mastery your dps you can conisder e2ing myrtle if you did not get a single female 5*+ agent by then (the agent must be female)

[nimble kite]

Then get Ines or SilverAlter to be like really flawless on Vanguards.

Better get Ines, since she's Standard ofc.

[grim forum]

i think i have a good amount of females

[obtuse obsidian]

i assume he dont have silver2 if he investing into cour of all stuff

[grim forum]

ill keep an eye out for ines but i thought alters are limited? i dont have silverash alter

[obtuse obsidian]

agent is a vanguard archtype

[coarse notch]

not all alters are limited but silverash alter is

[nimble kite]

Silver is Limited, yeah. But not all Alters are.
Jessica or Kroos are the examples.

[grim forum]

oh yeah i guess like kroos alter.. makes sense

[obtuse obsidian]

to be exact surfer/canta/ines

if you get one of those they are worth raising
other wise focus on dps namely that silver ash

[knotty wave]

not all alters are limited

[obtuse obsidian]

all male alters but silver ash are non limited 👏

[ebon plaza]

do we get anything for doing strategic simulation? other than the total 24 needed

[nimble kite]

Flex

[tacit oracle]

Is lumen still good from warfare

[nimble kite]

No.

[tacit oracle]

The healer guy

[nimble kite]

Yeah, I know who is he. Still NO.

[young path]

hes decent but costly to raise since hes a 6 star

[tacit oracle]

Oh

[grim forum]

ok

[soft lion]

is lumen an AOE healer or ST, i forgot

[obtuse obsidian]

he need e2 to be an afk healer

and loses to e1 button clicks

[nimble kite]

ST

[obtuse obsidian]

0T cause you wont deploy him 👏

[tacit oracle]

The only available healer i have rn is the 2 3 star and and sussoro perfumer and myrll for 4 stars and ptilopsis for 5 star should besides ptilopsis what op should i raise?

[abstract mauve]

sussuro

[obtuse obsidian]

suss and ptilo are good bursts of healing

[nimble kite]

Sussuro as 4☆ ST, Ptilo as 5☆ Multitarget.

[tacit oracle]

Oky

[obtuse obsidian]

also never use myrtle healing skill

always keep that shorty on s1

[tacit oracle]

No not myrtle the orange hair girl

[obtuse obsidian]

oh myrrh

[sonic crown]

Hmm who should i replace when i get better operator?

[winter lodge]

Can you get medals for missed events?

[alpine lance]

Is the next event, whichever one it is, right after the current lappy event or could there be a few days of delay?

[sonic crown]

Like holy i use Thorns so many time

[ebon plaza]

courier for sure, rest depends on who you get, although wang+ch3n can probably be enough dps for everything casual

[abstract mauve]

kroos2 courier then either viviana or thorns2 depending on what you got by then

[sonic crown]

Who is Wang?

[alpine lance]

Pretty sure you can during a rerun, but not after it's over

[odd sky]

we don't know 🤫

[sonic crown]

Oh the Shu brother

But why wang tho?

[nimble kite]

Big boom boom kill

[winter lodge]

Ahh so events that no longer rerun too right? No medals?

[sonic crown]

I don't have better alternative for courier tho,since he is only my Vanguard that could help

Unlucky to get ines😭 😭

[alpine lance]

He can solo h7-4, that should be enough reason

[opaque remnant]

ines is good though?

[nimble kite]

No medals. Should Rerun ends, and you lose the right to Full Medalset.

[winter lodge]

Rip I just came back to the game, day 1 player 🥀

[glass aurora]

old cc rerun please 😔

[sonic crown]

The problem i don't get ines,can anyone suggest to replace courier?

[urban sleet]

Myrtle is enough for all your vg needs

[sonic crown]

Oh rigth

[shy quiver]

Are there any good factory/trading post base workers in the red cert shop besides quartz that could be worth grabbing?

[tranquil inlet]

on pramanix alter, does anything make the spreading of her ice tiles faster, like attack speed maybe?

[urban sleet]

Ig diamante but nah dont honesyly

[coarse notch]

mod2 and s3 accelerate it

[nimble kite]

No. Fixed time that can be improved by her current Module.

[urban sleet]

Mod lvl 2 and s3
Her talent is not tied to her atk spd so aspd buffs wont change anything

[tranquil inlet]

alright, thanks, i have her maxed out already with module

[urban sleet]

Well I am assuming its for s2 so its only mod2 for you

[alpine lance]

Yup, you'll never ever get them. You just gotta stare at the unfinished thing and suffer

[inland swallow]

what are the restriction of trapmaster again? and what makes wang better than other trapmaster?

[abstract mauve]

damage

[coarse notch]

he blows shit up and slows things down better

[alpine lance]

Can't put a mine on ranged tiles, can't put a mine under the enemy, can't damage air enemies?

[proven kelp]

Restrictions is they need tiles

Wang is better cuz he has a portable nuke on his homeless ass

[winter lodge]

This is when I last played 🥀 not being able to clear that cc made me loose interest

[abstract mauve]

there's more that's different but if he didnt have the damage, we wouldnt be talking about him as much

[nimble kite]

Mines deployed simultaneously restriction. Everyone has own cap.

[sonic crown]

Should i use lemuen as therapist or purewater?

[haughty holly]

Daily offtopic #help with 0 mods on

[glacial walrus]

Lemuen is a Deadeye sniper

[urban sleet]

And you shouldnt use lumen the medic

[alpine lance]

Well yeah, CC is endgame stuff. I think there was a pretty low budget clear for that specific one, but it's honestly not that big of a deal. Take breaks and play at your own place, imperfections are annoying but don't adjust yourself for them, those medals are worthless.

[wind blade]

lumen is a decent medic, but not worth the cost to raise especially if you already have purestream raised

[proven kelp]

If you mean LuMEN, the defective Healer, then you treat it as a Medic

It is ironically very bad as a Therapist since you are using Ammo

[inland swallow]

noted 📝 thx a lot for the info, guys

[haughty holly]

Decent*
** Long ah list of terms and Conditions

[foggy sail]

For hoshialter S3, is the forced retreat+squad protection contingent to manual retreat?

[wind blade]

forced retreat + squad protection triggers on deactivating s3 early, it has nothing to do with manual retreat

[coarse notch]

yes, you get dp back as if you manually retreated her

[alpine lance]

the list:
Needs E2 for S3
Needs E2 and module for decent healing numbers
Needs time to charge S3
Stage specific:
No elemental damage from enemies -> good
some element damage from enemies (mostly nervous impairment) not enough to waste all ammo -> great
Too much elemental damage -> bad

[foggy sail]

My bad. I meant manual deactivation of her skill. If I run it out naturally, she wouldn't die right?

[modest knoll]

Hi, if i only use magallan S1, which module should i prefer?

[sweet warren]

Mutsumi worth to E2 and Mastery even with no Sakiko?

[proven kelp]

I mean that depends on your other options
For a 5* she's good, but at the end of the day its still a 5*

[abstract mauve]

i mean, they do play with 5*s so she's a good option

[wind blade]

~~probably mod y for the extra drone? ~~Mod x for free deployment slot since you'd need to bring other ops for dps

[modest knoll]

Hmm yeah, i think i will choose mod X for that reason.. Thank you!

[alpine lance]

not sure if this helps, but in the CCb3 max risk clear with S1 they were using module X

[flint onyx]

What ops can shred res? I can only think of ifrit, but are there any more support like operators that can do that and with not that weird attack range?

[urban sleet]

Texas2 on her s2

[wind blade]

haze

[abstract mauve]

gallus2 on CN

[nimble kite]

Shoo

[wind blade]

logos (not a support but whatever)

[crude monolith]

should I spend my sanity potions now or are we going to get another event back to back?

[nimble kite]

We don't know

[wind blade]

eyja s2

[abstract blade]

the starter guide said to clear chapter 9 up to 9-6 before moving on to chapter 4. why 9-6 specifically?

[urban sleet]

Must be a material recipe

[nimble kite]

Mat recipe unlock

[odd sky]

save this week's potion

[abstract blade]

which one?

[nimble kite]

Idk, check your Workshop maybe?

[modest knoll]

I don't think i will do max risk CC
Thank you for the info btw!

[abstract blade]

cutting fluid solution. why do I need that recipe?

[urban sleet]

because its used for skill levels, modules and promotions duh

Every crafting materual except carbon mats is used for operator progress

[abstract blade]

but why 9-6? theres rescipies for salt agglomerate and fiber board after that

[wispy jolt]

Does the ed4 boss on p2 count as an objective point? (For relic buffs)

[urban sleet]

S stagea dont count towarfs chapyer progression and are almost always for unlockinf recipes, so you do them bt default

[urban sleet]

#is-station wpuld know better

[abstract blade]

ok I dont really need recipes right now I think I'll go get krooster first

T4 materials are for like e2 stuff

[abstract blade]

isnt s9-1 only accessible after beating 9-13?

[nimble kite]

Ye

[abstract blade]

so 9-6 doesnt even give all of ch9's recipes. why does the guide say to clear it before going to ch 4 and krooster?

[nimble kite]

Who wrote Camelot, FAE?

[abstract mauve]

@proven kelp

pretty sure it's cuz it gives recipe. that's kinda it

[proven kelp]

To be honest, while making it i kinda forgot that S9 stages are a bit further than 9-6

I will planning on updating Roadmap anyway, probably change it to S9-4

[urban sleet]

[nimble kite]

F.A.E drunk go home

[lunar apex]

what is F.A.E stand for ?

[proven kelp]

Anyhow

To why do Ch9 first over ch4+ ( Arc 2 ) and Krooster, simply because Recipe

Next Recipe on arc 2 is at ch5, unlike Arc 3's next recipe being only in a few stages away

And Why over Krooster? I don't really feel she's that needed early game

[nimble kite]

Find. Answer. EN.

[keen hedge]

Why is that important🤨, I never crafted that material 🤔

[urban sleet]

We are stripping away your wang skip privileges right this instant

[proven kelp]

Not yet

Also module missions also have some on Ch9+, its pretty big annoyance speedrunning it when you need to

[inland osprey]

whats the maximum asp we could hv for is?

[proven kelp]

500

[urban sleet]

Max buff is +500
Total aspd cap is 600, we have 100 by default

[inland osprey]

hmm i got golden chalice , so im thinkin on stockin up ingots as many as i can

[nimble kite]

Engine restriction is +500 ASPD, which makes 600 as maxed. Minimal is 20. Default is 100.

[inland osprey]

200ish already fast enuf right? ajnt no way i could stack it up to 500

[nimble kite]

You can, but it's very rare. Still, 200 is nice already.

[inland osprey]

yeah , time to abuse this relic , nvr got one until now

[urban sleet]

proceeds to lose run anyways

[inland osprey]

it might be with my pepega brain

[urban sleet]

If you actually lose it would be funny

[inland osprey]

well lets see

[uncut fox]

Which IS is Hoederer good for and why?

[keen hedge]

But F.A.E, it is very odd to recommend new players 🥺 to go to chapter 9 for a random crafting recipe before playing some side stories for the free operators 🤨.
They don't even have the lower tier materials to use the recipe anyway.
👆 @proven kelp

[nimble kite]

IS5. ASPD buff + S1 very fast procc strat.

[proven kelp]

They can get tons of lower Tier resources from RA that they can use
Event Shop too
Without Recipe they can't craft the higher tier resources

[uncut fox]

So he basically good in any mode you can find him a ton of ASPD?

[opaque remnant]

offensive recovery ops tend to be pretty BS with high atk speed

[nimble kite]

Probably IS5 only. He gains not only blunt ASPD too, which is crucial, but also ATK raiseup.

[marble viper]

then meets BMaS

[nimble kite]

It's more like meme strat rather than meta. @uncut fox

[proven kelp]

Also not like they can get Krooster right away

A newbie only gets to unlock 2 Side Story
1 is already saved for Tequila, the other is for Byro

They need to wait a week for Kroosters turn

[coarse notch]

hes very meta in IS5 but thats also because he deals with ed2/4/5 bosses quite well

you can see this in is6 where even if you highroll into a ton of atkspd, hoe is kinda ass

[uncut fox]

Just looking for fun things to try anyway. So masteries on S1 if doing IS5 with him?

[urban sleet]

Only IS5 really as of now because it gives a shitton of aspd, his s1 heals him back fo 25% of his max hp along with 265% atk
The former makes him a good 'brick' amd the latter well dmg always appreciated nothing crazy on that end

[grim forum]

is byrophyta worth raisng then

[urban sleet]

Apparently s2 is also used so do masteries on that asw

[proven kelp]

No
But he is important for Base Slave, which is newbie's number 1 priority

[coarse notch]

ideally hes m9ed for is5 but m3/m4/m7/m9 are the stopping points depending on how much you want to commit

[nimble kite]

He already works from E0

[coarse notch]

i would at the very least do s1m3 and s2m1

s2m3 makes it more comfortable

[rough cloak]

should i get exusia alter or Wisadel? Right now I don't really have a good 6* dps, my current good 6* is a Vanguard and a Healer

[nimble kite]

Kalter Banner?

[rough cloak]

Cn server

[coarse notch]

exu2

[nimble kite]

Oh, yes, do you reached 300?

[rough cloak]

I know how to read CN but cant type lmao

[rough cloak]

299, I'm grinding for originem so I'm basically guaranteed

[nimble kite]

Oh, then I would pick Wis tho.

[coarse notch]

i find exu2 to be more relevant than wis, wis is "easier" to use i guess

[rough cloak]

i want to post my currernt team here, but not sure if spoilers are allowed, I started the game like 9 days ago coz of the anni

[nimble kite]

That's my point

[coarse notch]

i dont think her ease of use is really that relevant

[keen hedge]

There's free high tier materials too and the recommended starter operator don't need them anyway 😵‍💫 so playing the early stages/current event/Dossoles Holiday for Tequila potentials/the SK-stages for carbon 🧱 to build the base are better options. 👍

[coarse notch]

cn stuff is fine here

[rough cloak]

welp im using this currently

[odd sky]

ap stages are red cert, carbon is sk stages

[nimble kite]

Seems fine for start, but where DPS?

[coarse notch]

that is indeed a team

[rough cloak]

gonna pick exu or wis

[proven kelp]

Yes? I know
Thats literally in the guide to prioritize Tequila, Event and Carbon

[rain forge]

as long as you aren’t telling story spoilers everything else is fine

[rough cloak]

bro I used this to clear all the weekly thingy with 400 mobs XD

[urban sleet]

Kick fang snd hibiscus

[coarse notch]

wis higher floor, lower ceiling
exu2 lower floor, higher ceiling

[ancient lintel]

Roll a dice ig

[rain forge]

How is wis the higher floor

[coarse notch]

more braindead easy to get mileage out of

[nimble kite]

Operator for dumbies.

[rain forge]

that would mean lower floor

[coarse notch]

not skill floor, impact floor

[rough cloak]

does exu have anti air abilities?

[ancient lintel]

I mean at e2 u just need to press funny button and she'll annihilate half the stage in 2 shots lol

[rain forge]

[ancient lintel]

Exu has higher ceiling cause s3 lol

[nimble kite]

Every single attack can attack Aerial.
Wis can only cope for First talent procc nearby from Ground target and S3.

[coarse notch]

easily shreds through air
wis does too as long as her s3 is up but exu2 does it always

[rough cloak]

i mean i personally like Exu more, but everyone is saying wis is op

[ancient lintel]

Plus exu has better uptime

[coarse notch]

if you like exu2 more pick exu, they're about the same

[rain forge]

Both are good but imo exu got better longevity

[nimble kite]

If you seek AntiAir, Exu2 will win easily.

[coarse notch]

wang/exu2/tragodia/wis are about the same level depending on who you ask

[ancient lintel]

They're both top notch ye, personally I'd say wis not because she's my waifu but it's up to u

[rough cloak]

oka Imma get exu then, she's also a dps right

[coarse notch]

highest dps operator in the game yes

[urban sleet]

If you ever want to touch high end IS, you'll be happier with exu2 over wisadel most of the time

[keen hedge]

And by the time ⏰ the player has done that or is stuck they can unlock another side story 🔐. So Invitation to wine is higher priority 👍 over the later crafting recipes.

[urban sleet]

So theres that plus alongside both being busted for general content

[rough cloak]

also i got this dude while pulling the anni banner, is he good or nah, I dont really have that many resources to build someone tho

[left tulip]

In which cases is it exu in which cases is it Wis?

[coarse notch]

good

[ancient lintel]

Wis is more braindead ish cause ya know she's immortal most of the time with 3 revenants covering her butt cheeks until aoe hits

[nimble kite]

Fine

[ancient lintel]

1 of the better guards, 1 cut above the rest

[coarse notch]

for what

[left tulip]

IS (didn’t mean to reply mb)

[left tulip]

I think she’s good vs most aoe with those?

[urban sleet]

You can follow roadless camelot in pins here for aj easier time starting out

[proven kelp]

You can literally speed run story stages in a single day with a borrow lol

and Krooster isn't really that big of a priority anyway, a Marksman can only do so much, they won't really turn a losing stage to a winning one

[rough cloak]

icic thanks for the help folks

[nimble kite]

Ep8 UFO's honest reaction:

[coarse notch]

wis better in 3/5, exu2 better in 4/6
difference being wis kinda sucks in 6 whereas exu2 is quite good in 3/5
and is2 isnt real

[ancient lintel]

For IS it's also IS dependant me thinks
Like if it's 5 then wis > exu imo, if it's 6 then exu > wis

[left tulip]

Idk what that is imma be real is it the nuke drone

[nimble kite]

Yes. The mortar drone.

pipipipipipi

[ancient lintel]

She has camo bruh, not invis, she's scared asf when there's something that's capable of aoe

[coarse notch]

the only aoe that camo protects against are originium alters for some reason

[left tulip]

Are you sure, iirc she doesn’t get splashed by stuff like kjera snowballs as well

[coarse notch]

oh and izumik phase 2's shockwave

[ancient lintel]

Thank god for this or else emer careless magic is gonna be a pain

[coarse notch]

no idea tbh my brain is outdated

[urban sleet]

Careless magic is on the easier side I think 🥀

[ancient lintel]

Regular army

[urban sleet]

Then again I dont rely much on ranged ops so I can basecamp and be happy

[coarse notch]

ive exploded to e careless an embarrassing number of times

[ancient lintel]

Ur a gvg player?
Ew

[river cedar]

what is the most consistent strategy for stronghold protocol? im sick to fucking death or getting owned by rng

[urban sleet]

I am on d15 not d18 ig thats why

[coarse notch]

sargon is the easiest to pick up imo
use an econ strategy or pepe

[urban sleet]

#stronghold-hall can also help

[nimble kite]

Unfortunately you get owned by RNG regardless of strategy.

The most easiest should be Laterano or Sargon.

[wraith sage]

How do I play kjerag?

[left tulip]

Spam freeze and get stuff to build stacks off freeze

[nimble kite]

You make Ice.

[coarse notch]

stack freeze with gnosis and pram then explode because you froze all of the enemies outside of the range of your dps

[wraith sage]

I need stacks

[left tulip]

Pramanix/silverash (their base forms)

[river cedar]

ive been trying laterano all day today and so far my record on how early i can get executor alter is round 12 despite having a lvl5 shop before round 8 every single time

[left tulip]

Kjerag is so based

[ancient lintel]

Wis might make a grand comeback in 7 ngl, with frenzy being present those with fast aspd or low atk intervals might get punished severely

[coarse notch]

who knows, maybe is7 has the giga spiky chest

[nimble kite]

That's whole Stronghold Protocol gameplay unfortunately. Cannot give anything else to you.

[coarse notch]

gotta make sure your teammates arent trolling you either

[left tulip]

7 billion fiammettas for you

[river cedar]

ive been playing solo lol

[left tulip]

I’ve gotten double elite fiammetta every single one of my 4 laterano games I’ve only ever seen one fedex

[coarse notch]

i typically just hold two copies of my operators then combine a ton at dispatch lvl 4

[wraith sage]

Just got normal pramanix just realized how literally every other low tier kjerag only gives one time stack

[coarse notch]

the yan experience

mfw i pick du yaoye then look at my teammate hoarding zuole lin and yu

[river cedar]

for some reason they decided to put 1 maybe 2 good stack generators in most of the alliances and then diluted the pool to oblivion with useless trash

[ancient lintel]

Erm it's luo xiao hei 🤓 ☝️

[coarse notch]

honestly id go for sargon when playing solo, laterano's early game is kinda 🚮 without a teammate playing kjerag/sargon to clean up after you

[chrome tiger]

yeah laterano stinks super bad without precision

mfw no atk buff

[river cedar]

dont they have an atk buff when spending ammo

[nimble kite]

When 6 ops on the field.

Without that, no ATK bonus whatsoever.

[chrome tiger]

at least laterano has two built in precision

[river cedar]

shockingly my most successful strat so far has been trolling with cannot early game in coop and just rolling with a max shop and using what comes

[chrome tiger]

so you only need to seek out a third one or mumu ball fia into one

[balmy panther]

Found the cannot user
kill them

[woven mica]

How good is raidian for general content ?

[nimble kite]

Mid

[urban sleet]

If you are new shes fine else what bengal said

[chrome tiger]

Her summons cost 16 dp which is stinky doo doo

[balmy panther]

when your summons cost 16 instead of 7

it's something else

not to forget the billion proficiency bonuses

[river cedar]

it makes me feel like such a creature but it doesnt rely on getting the one omega super important crucial operator for your strategy so 🤷‍♂️

[chrome tiger]

The -9 dp cost upgrade on radian is disturbingly ridiculous

[hardy pasture]

She is godly if you are new.

[woven mica]

I see

[opaque remnant]

(If you’re able to clear that is)

[ancient lintel]

Should be easy at d0 :clueless :

[woven mica]

I got her e2 today so that's why I'm asking how she is

[hardy pasture]

You can just take support in IS.

One of my friend actually cleared IS up to D12 as soon as he unlocked it, it’s easy.

[ancient lintel]

Gotta clear all 3 endings for masteries and mod tho

[woven mica]

Who should I take for support i generally take tragodia cause he is godly for me

[hardy pasture]

Tragodia for ending 1 yes.

[ancient lintel]

There's a lot of good options out there, exu wis trag are all good starting ops

[woven mica]

I see

[faint garden]

Bonjour, for silence, the +4 stacks to own active alliance(s), is it means just foresight stacks?

[kind igloo]

Which should I E2 60 next?

[hardy pasture]

Does the next IS have someone like Raidian we upgrade for free?

[hardy pasture]

Surtr or Jessica

[woven mica]

Except for crownslayer everybody else is good for e2

[chrome tiger]

It’s +4 to all alliances she has

which by default is just foresight so yeah

[nimble kite]

If you get Morph ball, which can apply her to different factions too, I believe she will gain stacks there as well.

[ancient lintel]

Zuo > jess > surtr

[sacred flume]

Yes, Mechanist

[faint garden]

this doesnt answer my question :/

[ancient lintel]

Zuo's solid, jess's okay, surtr is oudated but still usable, and the rest is niche/bad

[nimble kite]

It means "yes, but conditions may change".

[ancient lintel]

I mean skalter has qol if u want that lol

[nimble kite]

If you apply Morph ball, and Victoria Hammer, which makes her Foresight + Victoria faction, I believe she will stack both of these factions simultaneously. @faint garden

[faint garden]

So, for this kind of attributes depends on what kind of alliance the op has, like silence with foresight, tin man with swift and agile etc

[faint garden]

aight good info

[nimble kite]

Yeah. But without it, stacks to Foresight only instead.

[opaque remnant]

got any other 6 stars?

[harsh marsh]

Can Nervous Impairment and Necrosis stack on top of eachother? or there can only be one at a time?

[sonic crown]

Is even Shining is good?

Why?

[nimble kite]

She's shit.

[wraith shoal]

cause she's bad

[sonic crown]

Oh well i got her because i lost to 1/3 to Kalsit which

I got her from Recruitment.😭

[south fog]

Guys is nasti really a bitcoin for future content?

[nimble kite]

ST medic that gives shit DEF buff normally, has high heal number, but if damage is doing consistently, she loses heal and allow op to die.

[wraith shoal]

she's mid

[nimble kite]

Only use is S3 big DEF giveaway, which is very meh.

[nimble kite]

Too bad. Ditch her somewhere and get used to lose on Top Op tag.

You will have a lot of disappointments later on.
Especially when Carnelian will be added to pool.

[sonic crown]

Fuck her

[gleaming mason]

Morning friends!

[sonic crown]

She is damn a Nuisance

[wraith shoal]

do you have any question?

[gleaming mason]

[chrome prawn]

I do, why he said Its morning while Its actually evening

[wraith shoal]

not everyone lives in the same timezone

[golden basalt]

How many second damage reduction in lappland alter dissapear after winning duel?

[wraith shoal]

20 iirc

[harsh marsh]

Between IS3 to IS6, which IS has the fastest pace to grind levels for the "battlepass" rewards? (the one in the top right)

[nimble kite]

20 sec.

[golden basalt]

thank you

[wraith shoal]

IS5 if you abuse lamp

[harsh marsh]

damn its always the lamp
anyways thanks

[ancient lintel]

Uh 6 i guess? 3 is kinda BS cause ur always relic hungry while in 6 u can just suffocate in relics

And for 5 ye just lamp + blueprint it if u only want the rewards

[wraith shoal]

blueprint squad+ lamp and reroll every node till boss

[wild pebble]

Ascalon go with which module?

[harsh marsh]

reroll every node to wish fulfilled?

[wraith shoal]

to have quick runs

[harsh marsh]

thanks again

[shadow bay]

one that give more slow

base only

[ancient lintel]

That's how u speedrun with lamp ye, be careful though cause lamp doesnt guarantee wish nodes

[wraith shoal]

modx lvl1

[wild pebble]

Got it

[ancient lintel]

waiting to see him reroll into e rhine guard into e regular

[misty oxide]

will current stronghold event become permanent? or at some point?

[wraith shoal]

it's a seasonal mode

[wraith sage]

How FedEx feel after making the entire game mode revolve around himself

[ancient lintel]

I mean bro was never relevant so let him have some glory XD

[broken flame]

Also remember to get your Life Points to 1 by Floor 1 or Floor 2 so you can guarantee the King's Relics when you enter Wish nodes

[wraith sage]

🫃

[nimble kite]

It has a timer top right corner, ya kno?

[harsh marsh]

got it, King's relic is the one that gives +50 ASPD right?

[wraith shoal]

1 of those does yeah. King set has 4 relics

the first one you'll get is the aspd one, then the +150%attack one,then the shield one and then the sp one

[broken flame]

Yeah, among other things. There're 4 of them. You can easily reduce your Life Points by just getting your toll to orange; making any moves thereafter reduce your LP by 1 everytime.

[ancient lintel]

King's new lance: +50 aspd at 1 LP
King's crown: +50% atk at 1LP, 150% if possess 3 kings or more
King's armor: +3 shields, every battle grants +1 shield
King's legacy: +1SP and passively regem 3% max HP every 2 seconds at 1LP

[neon siren]

Also if u get visage of crowned fates try to get the other king relics for max lp aswell, cuz then max lp will be set to 1

[broken flame]

Also you are guaranteed to get a Hand relic if you have an operator that can benefit from it. So basically you're guaranteed to get the Hand of Rumble first everytime if you're running Wisadel carry.

[ancient lintel]

4 kings alone can make fremont explode on D18 so most of the times 4 kings is enough if u just wanna speedrun it lol

[wraith shoal]

there's also the king of sarkaz(or whatever it's called) set that fits pretty well with the king set but those arent guaranteed to drop

[fallen depot]

is kjerag the weakest group in stronghold? or am i missing a crucial strategy for it?

[coarse notch]

try to minimize refreshes on f4/f5 because if you fail a refresh you will probably explode

[ancient lintel]

Surely I wont refresh into e regular or e rhine

[neon siren]

[grizzled galleon]

defo missing something but i have to say main units are gnosis silverash and pramanix for grinding and stability while kyera is useful for the item she gives

[broken flame]

Me when my Wisadel exploded with the Virtuosa event enemies after refreshing into emergency op of that map

[ancient lintel]

Eh witch curse alliance aint that hard imo

[modest spindle]

does the 10 kernel pulls you get as new player matter? should I keep it or use it rn?

[coarse notch]

its hard if they're lamp rushing and have nobody on their team

[ancient lintel]

It's annoying but once u manage to tune the nodes it just flips over lol

[nimble kite]

It's extremely helpful against normal enemies and useless against bosses (unless Alister, King Lion Boss).

[cyan isle]

Is Archetto S3 worth the M3?

[broken flame]

Me when I panicked and didn't change the tune

[coarse notch]

just hold onto them for a good kernel locating

[obtuse obsidian]

nah let them try emer elusive mark

let them experience wis on enemy team

[ancient lintel]

Fck that stage ngl, I have no idea why W is so god damn tanky

[outer mountain]

Which one should I choose?

[obtuse obsidian]

the emerg is like fighting wis

[nimble kite]

Pick whatever. Everyone is shit tbh.

[obtuse obsidian]

you wont raise any if you are a regular player

if you plan to play 5* only or something get firewatch

[broken flame]

Oh the one with W.... i'm gonna confess something I haven't cleared that map yet lmfao

[random kestrel]

from those 4 it easily firewatch (dunno what you have)

[coarse notch]

e elusive merc is a rosmontis s3 showcase

[obtuse obsidian]

it cleared me a few times :ya:

[gleaming mason]

Is the Pinboard the mission I am supposed to follow?

[ancient lintel]

Elusive is pure bs
I can do freq dispute but elusive merc is just bs

[obtuse obsidian]

funny enough the hardest f5 map is also a w map :icant:

but somehow its easier

[wild pebble]

Thanks

[random kestrel]

another elusive merc victim

[ancient lintel]

And the hardest f6 map is a ling event map

[coarse notch]

i think heretics is harder for flingers

[gleaming mason]

Campaign one then? X)

[nimble kite]

There's some missions that asked you to permanently ruin the base. (The one who wants to have X SupportUnits)

[ancient lintel]

I'd take heretics over paradise everyday ngl

[coarse notch]

greyyalt + ros basically duo heavenly paradise

[mighty nest]

who's the next limited discount shu?

[coarse notch]

dusk

[gleaming mason]

Oh alright!

[nimble kite]

Dusk.

[ancient lintel]

unless u give me a definitive solution to paradise without ros

[coarse notch]

any two flingers easily does it
tragodia solves rightside as well

[broken flame]

What does Paradise look like again

[ancient lintel]

Well shucks I only have wis

[coarse notch]

no greyy?

[broken flame]

i gotta borrow Ros one of these runs frfr

[random kestrel]

its furniture spam map

[ancient lintel]

Yes gray buuuuuuuuuuuut dun wanna raise him cause I got other stuff to do

[coarse notch]

if you own wis then open with ros borrow, shes the better starter

[pine plover]

feng shui but worse?

[balmy panther]

feng shui but if it was a f6 map

[pine plover]

[ancient lintel]

Ah ye I can just pillar stall somethin, never thought about it

[broken flame]

can't wait to see what fun things Bolivar has

[coarse notch]

you havent lived until you've spent 10 minutes on simulated skirmish waiting for guardmiya to kill the spine

[ancient lintel]

Ngl, it has that frenzy thing which we dont know how impactful will it be yet but considering its effects i dont think people like exu2 or trag will do well on like max diff

[broken flame]

Exu2 implodes upon skill activation 🥀

[ancient lintel]

I mean if it's an environmental thing then ye exu 100% will explode 🥀
If it only comes from enemies then just simply dont get hit lol

[obtuse obsidian]

cant be worse then my blacknight stalling last knight 🥀

anyway moving on

[gleaming mason]

I’m starting fresh btw

[outer dirge]

Does this medal require me to use 3 strategies 3 times each?

[wraith shoal]

yes

[nimble kite]

Win 3 times each, but yes

[outer dirge]

Aww man

[pine plover]

any difficulty

[keen hedge]

Disagreed 👍 , Kroos Alter is more important than that crafting recipe 😬 for a beginner 💛

[proven kelp]

My condolences

[west hazel]

i got the elemental tag in recruitement , what tags should i pair it with and what timer do i set it to ?

[pine plover]

elemental is only phonor (1★)

[faint lotus]

Nothing and 3:50

[ivory terrace]

an ethernity before elemental gives u a 5*

[pine plover]

new 4star operator is getting more scarce

[ivory terrace]

maybe next one

[pine plover]

chapter 17 didnt release any

[ivory terrace]

neither did zima2

[pine plover]

well, the last banner 4★ was in chapter 16

[south fog]

Guys im using zuo lee on the training room with tragodia how the zuo lee ability works

[pine plover]

they already shafted down the release of 4★ to main story and red voucher
but now, even new main story doesnt have new 4★

[south fog]

I already reed but still dont know how it works properly

[ivory terrace]

he insta skips guard M1 if prior he finished M3 or M1+M2 or 3xM1

[obtuse obsidian]

tldr shit base skill smh

[modest spindle]

a quick question, the garanteed 6 star you get from beginner banner is good value right?

[ivory terrace]

only good enough as newbie

[obtuse obsidian]

do single pulls

[south fog]

So i already did the first stage of masterie on my tragodia now he is doing the 2 so when he finish the masterie 2 the 3 i dont need to wait a day?

[brisk grove]

any M3 priority ?

Ulpianus S3 is currently going to M3 in the base already

[wraith shoal]

insta skips M1 on a GUARD op

tragodia will not insta gain that M1

[south fog]

I think i understand now thank you

[obtuse obsidian]

i assume this is insta m3 ticket

dp sa s3 i guess

[nimble kite]

Wisadel S2 or Monsta S2.

[wraith shoal]

M9 vina

[ivory terrace]

or save

[obtuse obsidian]

use it on wang

[brisk grove]

oh ye true, I could hold it for wang

[obtuse obsidian]

at least do m9 on a cute op

[ivory terrace]

s3m3 wang use salt
good enough

[nimble kite]

This ain't #arknights guys. Stop suggesting Vina smh.

[young dawn]

In the operator recruit menu, which category do i pick? Melee, range, aoe, ect

[wraith shoal]

hater!

[nimble kite]

Context? Are you have Top tag or what?

[carmine rain]

Who she what banner?

Is she even good?

[obtuse obsidian]

do we have a guide for recruiting for a newbie?

[pine plover]

bruh, indigo was the last non main story banner non red voucher 4★ ever released

[leaden yoke]

Is "decent" (serviceable) if you are lacking operators, but that's as far as it gets

[ivory terrace]

event welfare

[nimble kite]

SilverAlter welfare. And she's mid.

[proven kelp]

#help message

[ivory terrace]

prob temp recruit IS

[obtuse obsidian]

its mostly cause this one might need it

[pine plover]

they really culled down banner 4★ release ever since the beginning of arc 2 (victorian)

[obtuse obsidian]

they culled down on banner 2 stars since arc0

[ancient lintel]

I mean just get all 3* that ur missing using the recruit calc

[hexed adder]

Would be nice for early use and workers recruit list

[carmine rain]

What's the Best 4 Stars For IS6 Tho?

Specially Supporters and Specialist

I'm getting Only Supports and Specialist cards on IS6

[leaden yoke]

no one talks about 3* anymore

[pine plover]

back in my day, we got new 4★ during CC event

[obtuse obsidian]

specalist gravel ethan

supporters deep color have her moments

[ancient lintel]

Ethan, gravel, the tentacle summon girl, and ye

[pine plover]

up to barrenland, that's it

[chrome prawn]

How long does crownslayer skill 3 stall to 3 enemies?

[outer hazel]

whats the last story mission, in the base story?

[obtuse obsidian]

18 18 12

[carmine rain]

Ethan the Yoyo guy and uh deep color then

Oke lemme E2 them

[outer hazel]

thanks

[ivory terrace]

chapter 16?

[hexed adder]

HOSF rerun has Jaye thorns and andreana, it wasnt tied to CC

[obtuse obsidian]

ethan is the only one worth e2ing during an IS run tbh

[carmine rain]

Also Why is There no Good 4 Star Bard like Skalter?

[young dawn]

New player, so im just asking what category of operator i should pioritize to get first

[vital kelp]

ask HG

[ancient lintel]

Ye gravel can stay at e1lv1, just make sure she's sl7

[obtuse obsidian]

6* bards sucks
4* bards would suck more

[ivory terrace]

doesn't matter
just collect 4* and/or base slaves

[ancient lintel]

Bards are borderline useless ngl

[vital kelp]

wait its that guy

[leaden yoke]

There's like 5 good 4* operators in total, and Skalter probably ain't consider good currently

[obtuse obsidian]

i have m9 skalter and my only copium for her is her getting alpha module or something

[carmine rain]

But Bards are Better Healers since they BUFF Stats Too

[wraith shoal]

skalter isnt good

[obtuse obsidian]

ya and heal 5 hp per minute

[nimble kite]

Ummmm, try to get as many dupes as possible. Pick tags which applies to Click, Gummy, Spot, Kroos, Steward, etc.

[ancient lintel]

Aight after u said that u can stfu bruh

[carmine rain]

Bards can Heal Reaper and Sunmons Right?

[obtuse obsidian]

haruka off skill heal more then skalter lowkey

[lunar apex]

minor buff that requires to heavy investing on them is pretty suck

[ivory terrace]

haruka off skill is DPS

[nimble kite]

So they can heal through damage to enemies. Mostly.

[vital kelp]

(this guy is puffy but instead of yu skalter btw

[obtuse obsidian]

yes but reaper dont need it and summons are across the board and spammable

[marble viper]

[young dawn]

The current two rate up banners isnt worth it to pull on as a newbie right? Faintly remember someone saying the next banner will be better

[obtuse obsidian]

the bubble bob heal so still

[carmine rain]

But I wanna Make a Bard Reaper Summoner Team

[obtuse obsidian]

then hire skalter the fuck you want with 4 star

[ivory terrace]

nope

[leaden yoke]

I still like CE because skill cooldown allows to have either Shu S3 or CE S3 active with 100% up-time. But it isn't a good combo, also Haruka exist.

[obtuse obsidian]

actuaually wait hire thorn alter instead

[ancient lintel]

Ask hail mao for a 4* bard then

[ivory terrace]

better off waiting for the limited

[nimble kite]

Wang on Summer.

[pine plover]

that was like a year before episode 9
what i meant is, 4★ operator used to be released beside from main story event and red voucher

[wraith shoal]

if you want for some niche go for it but dont expect them to be good

[random kestrel]

bard huh
yes its a bard, just a bard
the actual ops that i find really hard to shill

[grizzled galleon]

wht does the floatie map exist in stronghold

[leaden yoke]

idk, for me it seems that most people at some point just go Niche at some point because the game doesn't really require you to run the strongest operator for like 90% of the content. Worse case scenario you add a Wisadel to your team if you are struggling.

[faint lotus]

Tinman or thorns alter are better at healing enmities if you absolutely need someone to do that

[nimble kite]

Ask Hai Mao why it exists.

[carmine rain]

Yeah

I'll try making a

Bard
Geek
Reaper
Summoner

Hope this team Works

[ancient lintel]

Wtf is this niche lol

[wraith shoal]

geeks can be healed by healers, swap for soloblades

[grizzled galleon]

fr

[rough merlin]

anyone know what's the next event?

[nimble kite]

Don't ask it. I won't help him, if he's stuck.

[wraith shoal]

possibly nasti but we dont know till yostar announces it

[leaden yoke]

Passive healing niche

[ancient lintel]

Ye switch to soloblades for enmity only niche

[carmine rain]

Wouldn't Bards Be better Than Healers For Geeks since the Heal's are Constant and They getting Buffed too?

[viscid sonnet]

how do you gain more stacks for kjerag alliance?

I cant seem to reach 100

[wraith shoal]

heals are shit and what healers do you use that dont constantly heal.

[obtuse obsidian]

dont kill the enemies

[ancient lintel]

The buffs are very minor bruh
Plus if someone needs buff to kill fodders they're way too weak and they should be benched lol

[leaden yoke]

You are healing passively but if someone starts attacking them Bard can't keep up most of the time, unless you are using a skill that is actually meant for healing like CE S3

[grizzled galleon]

use gnosis, pramanix silverash and some defenders

[nimble kite]

Pramanix (Normal) should farm the stack, I don't see her in your team.

[faint lotus]

You should use blaze alter as well, her revive works like an enmity too

[grizzled galleon]

it really shouldnt be that hard gang

[obtuse obsidian]

throw that pram out of the window

and am saying throw the 6* one btw

[obtuse obsidian]

you need new glasses bro

[carmine rain]

That's Why I Use Bard + Reapers Double Heal's + BUFFs

[viscid sonnet]

so it depends on what operators you use?

[modest spindle]

I may be blind but where is the pull history I can't find it

[nimble kite]

You sure? The one on the picture was Alter form.

[wraith shoal]

check again

[hexed adder]

Wao

[grizzled galleon]

yes gnosis is main for freeze, kyera is good for her item while pramanix and silverash are needed for grinding

[median fable]

yostar website

[nimble kite]

Yostar Website.

[obtuse obsidian]

dont make me pull the circle and arrow
the red ones too

[grizzled galleon]

and then degenbrecher is the main dps later on

[nimble kite]

Fuck. She's so stealth.

[wraith shoal]

we ran out of paint mate, des spent it

[carmine rain]

Once I get Skalter I'll Try the Bard Reaper Strats

[marble viper]

use all the paint now

[grizzled galleon]

if possible get another agile unit like silence alter for atk spd buff

[pine plover]

the one of easier way to gain stack is from operator with Aid alliance like Ceylon

[nimble kite]

https://account.yo-star.com/game-info?game=ark&tab=gacha
@modest spindle

[carmine rain]

Also Inspirational and Durability BUFF Stacks Right?

[pine plover]

+2/+4 stack to all active alliance after round ends

[leaden yoke]

No, only highest effect

[young dawn]

Do i place specter in front of the enemy spawn or in front of our base?

[leaden yoke]

tho let me check

[carmine rain]

Aren't Those 2 BUFFs Different?

Inspiration and Sanctuary BUFFs have different Effect's Right?

[pine plover]

Sanctuary doesnt stack with other Sanctuary

[ancient lintel]

What is durability buffs? I've heard of inspiration but not that lol

[nimble kite]

Near the enemy you want to stall/kill, timing enough seconds to procc the S2 faster before she dies before that.

[leaden yoke]

Oh you mean that, yeah, inspiration only highest effect applies but Sanctuary is a different effect so it doesn't conflict

[carmine rain]

Sanctuary

So By This Skalter + Haruka BUFFs Shoulve Stack Right?

[ancient lintel]

Ye sanc and inspire can be active at the same time but u cant stack sanc on sanc or inspire on inspire, unless it's diff type of inspire, u can have atk inspire and hp inspire at the same time for example

[young dawn]

Should I pull on this?

[ancient lintel]

Do singles till first 6* yes

[carmine rain]

Also Who have Sanctuary BUFFs on Abjurers exept Haruka?

[ancient lintel]

Uh quercus?

[random kestrel]

every abjurer have

[lunar apex]

check pins for beginner guide if u still have free characters voucher and dont know who to choose in there

[leaden yoke]

Silence alter

[pine plover]

more like, who have sancturay beside abjurer

[random kestrel]

tsukinogi, silence2, forgor who else

[ancient lintel]

Ah ye shu with her 15% sanc

[inland swallow]

and free 1sp every 4s if having 4 sui ops in squad

[carmine rain]

Queries sanctuary is Bad , only applies when 70% HP

[maiden thunder]

Hoederer 🤫

[alpine lance]

Hoederer (oh, I'm late)

[young dawn]

Is this a good pull?

[faint lotus]

Not bad, also 60% with mod

[nimble kite]

Shit.

[ancient lintel]

Gladiia 🤫

[maiden thunder]

Are u pulling kernel without blue tickets or is this beginners banner?

[faint lotus]

Don’t forget the best sanctuary operator, windchimes

[ancient lintel]

Eh ok ish

[nimble kite]

Beginner.

[wanton meadow]

Beginner banner? Probably ok considering where you're pulling but ideally you don't pull there in the 1st place

[pine plover]

her isnt sancturay

[maiden thunder]

If u are looking to reroll might wanna try leizi2(leizi the thunderbringer)

[alpine lance]

Vina (but only physical)

[maiden thunder]

If u are saying this because it has 3 5* platinum is giga garbage and warf has some niche high HP pool healing on s1 but most use s2 for buff and both are not used very often(useless tbh)

[carmine rain]

Thoughts on Silence Alter + Heidi?

[median fable]

use 2 dps

[maiden thunder]

Don't use either

[obtuse obsidian]

-13 hope

[maiden thunder]

Bro cooking straight poison

[leaden yoke]

No one really uses either, they are serviceable healers but that's about it.

[maiden thunder]

[median fable]

heidi has seen usage, can't see what you need Silence2 for ot worse why you need both

[leaden yoke]

the same way Sussurro is a serviceable healer

[carmine rain]

I'll Just Use them for now Cuz I don't have Skalter and Haruka

But once I Have Haruka and Skalter I'll Switch Them

[robust thistle]

Sussurro is way better than those two

[median fable]

doesn't work like that

[leaden yoke]

Sussurro is free on Is6

[robust thistle]

You know you dont have to use those two exact subclasses right
It doesnt work like that

[carmine rain]

But Sanctuary and Inspiration BUFFs Stacked right?

[pine plover]

same subclass doesnt mean same skillset

[robust thistle]

Yes but both are shit ops

[wraith shoal]

They do but that doesn't mean it's as busted as you think

[median fable]

the same way sancturary and atk buffa stacks, so?

[obtuse obsidian]

haruka is used for healing not buff

[robust thistle]

You dont use two garbage ops and expect gold to come out of them

[median fable]

you raise good ops, not the best operator for each archetype or niche

[pine plover]

silence2 doesnt even remotely work the same way as haruka

[nimble kite]

Seconds ago he wanted to create Reapers + Bards + Abjurers + Summoners team, so just let him cook bros.

[maiden thunder]

[pine plover]

Haruka deals damage on healing

[carmine rain]

Haruka , Skalter , Eblana , Enteleche And FedEx Etc

They Would Work Trust

[nimble kite]

Yeah sure.

[obtuse obsidian]

adjuerer cant heal summons btw

[carmine rain]

But Bards Can

[robust thistle]

Heidi has shit healing

[young dawn]

Should i use support unit?

[pine plover]

eblana can heals her own summons