help

[hidden wolf]

Shes kinda mid

[abstract mauve]

wait nymph isnt mid

[lyric lagoon]

zima alt stands out inbetween wang and kalter as an ulpianus sidegrade, otherwise not really

[abstract mauve]

nasti is mid

[dark delta]

my friend is saying pramanix is new wisadel level power creep t or f

[slim tusk]

f

[mild turtle]

nope

[quick jolt]

not true lol they dont even do the same thing

[pure moat]

Who is better Tragodia or Ulpianus?

[abstract mauve]

"wisadel levels of powercreep" is sooo 2025 before december

[slim tusk]

trag>>>>ulpi

[dark delta]

oh thank god I thought I missed a broken ass character

[mild turtle]

tragodia by a long shot

[quick jolt]

completely different roles, but overall tragodia, and its not even close

tragodia is easily top 3 operators still

[lyric lagoon]

oldheads when the surtr powercreep

[abstract mauve]

how broken is yu

[mild turtle]

who r the other top 3s

is wis up there?

[dark delta]

Tragodia by a Oguri cap's lunch

[dark delta]

I disagree but ok

[quick jolt]

the general top 3, in no particular order, is considered to be wisadel/exusiai alter/tragodia

[lyric lagoon]

wis, tragodia, exu2, and wang are the big 4

[quick jolt]

i lowkey could not give less of a fuck if you agree or not lmao

[mild turtle]

i own 2/3 of them

[spare kelp]

hi im newbie this character is good ?

[abstract mauve]

you disagree but like good players agree

[dark delta]

I only lack Wisadel from here

[quick jolt]

when you're new shes fine but i wouldnt raise her past e1 because shes overall kinda mid

[dark delta]

She has melons thats it...

[abstract mauve]

i dont lack anyone from there

[spare kelp]

thanks

[mild turtle]

why does exu2 have such a low dp cost and sp cost for her s2

not that i'm complaining, i love that shit

[abstract mauve]

because the good operator yes

[quick jolt]

because she can and we should appreciate it

[dark delta]

What does exu2's s3 even do ?

[knotty wave]

Geek archetype

[mild turtle]

can redeploy 1 operator

[quick jolt]

high dps but much lower dph than her s2, and allwos her to instantly redeploy any operator whos currently on cooldown

[dark delta]

could be useful with Surtar then maybe...

[mild turtle]

dph?

[quick jolt]

dmg per hit. means she gets fucked over by defense more on s3 than s2

[dark delta]

damager per hit I think

[abstract mauve]

worse damage than s2 but she can redeploy a ground operator and give them some starting sp. she's not the only one that can redeploy operators on CN and kalter isnt limited to ground operators only and she can redeploy 2 instead of one so exu2 s3 🚮

[spare kelp]

Which character should I upgrade next?

[quick jolt]

hey exu atleast gives initial sp too!

[pure moat]

Mhh ebehenholz is good operator?

[quick jolt]

bottom of the barrel bad

[mild turtle]

tragodia.

[abstract mauve]

he's getting a sidegrade that is free in 6 months. he's literally free operator levels of power

[spare kelp]

i have many character for top operator and roll

[quick jolt]

tragodia then ulpianus. rest you can kinda just ignore completely

[spare kelp]

thanks

[dark delta]

holy shit so many 6 stars, IS THAT SKADI

[mild turtle]

skadi2

[dark delta]

yhea I mean skadi2

[abstract mauve]

are you sure you have exu2 and tragodia 🥹

[native cargo]

why the IS is called differently in en and cn

[spare kelp]

i have many for top operator recruit

[pure moat]

Some think want buy?

[dark delta]

what ?

[raven ermine]

kyaa skadi in 2026 sure is something

[quick jolt]

wdym

[abstract mauve]

it isnt. they just call it the wrong number on CN livestream

[quick jolt]

ray is the only good choice here

[hidden wolf]

Thorn alter

[quick jolt]

they count is1 as is0 i guess. it was technically a beta version anyway

[raven ermine]

Bro what

[abstract mauve]

currently even hool is a better purchase than thorns2

[formal shadow]

-# whoever you want when you're whale

[mild turtle]

where is is1
is2 is the phantom thing
is3 is mizuki
is4 is joklumarkar
is5 is sarkaz
is6 is sui

[quick jolt]

hool isnt even the 3rd worst option there

[real wedge]

sorry to ask again guys, I should prioritize upgrading e2 for tragodia first then silverash alter right?

[raven ermine]

Nope thorns bis in base, where hool

[abstract mauve]

ceobe ate it

[quick jolt]

is1 was a temporary beta version of IS. pretty much all of its stages and features exist in is2/3

[abstract mauve]

it was a limited time event themed based on ceobe high on shrooms

[lunar apex]

[formal shadow]

Ceobe Fungimist is very much real and dead IS

[spare kelp]

how i can win the bear for chapter 16

[raven ermine]

e1 for tragodia is fine for a time, e2 sash2 first for s3, then you'll raise trag for masteries/module

[mild turtle]

when i played is for the first time i lowk thought

"hey isn't this just mirror dungeon but with much more mechanics?"

[formal shadow]

for reference, IS2 basically is all the IS1 stages with the is1 bosses being in IS3's wonderland :ya:

[abstract mauve]

brick defender. stall it with ranged operators. or stun it to death

[lyric lagoon]

1. no need to bring up off-topic here
2. kjh literally stated that a lot of lc was inspired by ak

[quick jolt]

its also much older. i am pre sure theres no older gacha game roguelite than IS

[mild turtle]

i see.

[proper ether]

is ray good?

[abstract mauve]

pretty decent

[spare kelp]

thanks

[proper ether]

where did u get this ? u can buy character and stuff ? is it a pack or sum?

[dark delta]

But the gameplay is so bad compared to arknights

[formal shadow]

$30 selector

[abstract mauve]

the gameplay of IS is bad?

[dark delta]

I enjoy it

[abstract mauve]

ok that's good to hear

[proper ether]

is it a limited pack or it will stay ?

[dark delta]

you do you, if u like it then have fun, if you dont no one is forcing you

[formal shadow]

it shows up every I think 6 months?

[lyric lagoon]

limited, we get one each celeberation limited banner event debut

[mild turtle]

appears from time to time

[dark delta]

So much money for on character 💔

[real wedge]

aaah I see, I have one more thing to ask haha.
After I got both tragodia and silver ash to e2, should I get the module for pramanix alter first or tragodia?

[abstract mauve]

i like it a decent bit ye

[formal shadow]

It is not for those poor of wallet

[proper ether]

how many days left

[mild turtle]

isn't there like a breakpoint for trag s2 mastery?

[coarse notch]

e2 lvl82 mod3

[knotty wave]

its a 6* selector + a 10 pull

[spare kelp]

this team is good enough to defeat the bear

[formal shadow]

yeah you need s2 masteries for his breakpoint

[mild turtle]

why specifically level 82

[coarse notch]

procs NI in one cat on bosses

[lunar apex]

actually s2m3 as well

[coarse notch]

trag needs 565 atk disregarding external modifiers

[raven ermine]

Pram mod2 first
You mostly get tragodia's module to reach the atk stat needed for one s2 to proc nervous on bosses
As said above, lv 82 mod3, or lv 88 mod2
It's expensive and not a lot of returns for new accounts

[coarse notch]

gonna assume you m3 every good skill so yea s2m3

[proven swan]

did they just added tr-s-1? is this an old tutorial stage or a recent new one? how come that i didnt completed it

[dark delta]

that doesnt help it, well Im from a third world country so 30 bux here is 2780 ish enough to live three or four weeks

[abstract mauve]

uhhh try stalling the bear using jessicalter s3 facing the blue box away from the bear. i think she should handle it pretty well altho i dont know how good/bad her initial sp is

[knotty wave]

its not for the poor.

[coarse notch]

its a good deal for a gacha game but gacha games literally exist to take your money so
dont buy if you cant afford

[lyric lagoon]

is this ragebait or engagementbait

[dark delta]

I know 💔

[proven swan]

genuine question

[dark delta]

stupidity exists

and people can forget things

[slim tusk]

Harsh much,yes that tutorial added

[abstract mauve]

it's a fair question. you are right. these guys are just being asses

[raven ermine]

Mostly the second part, no need to be mean

[mild turtle]

i'm p sure you just skipped over it

[lyric lagoon]

it’s the second stage of the entire game in ch0 nvm, one of the stages in ch0

[spare kelp]

thanks bro

[real wedge]

got it, tysmm for the help

[proven swan]

ah well okay

[lyric lagoon]

is below tr-7 if you enter ch0

[raven ermine]

TR-s-1 didn't exist back then, i'm pretty sure i cleared it when i was clearing all op like a year or two ago

[slim tusk]

It's added like 1-2 years ago

[proven swan]

right?? thats what im sayin

[slim tusk]

I mean i literally said that above lol

[polar hollow]

hi what do I dump my tokens on?

[proven swan]

oh dang

[abstract mauve]

this is what i meant. idk what mastery level you have tho

[lyric lagoon]

whatever you need at the time, don’t just mass buy for no reason

[lunar apex]

just pick the neccesary amount of mats you are missing when upgrading your ops

[iron wigeon]

Save them for mats your characters need but short on

[raven ermine]

/parashop in botspam

[iron wigeon]

Hey guys i have a question

[lyric lagoon]

then just say it

[pliant sleet]

Is vanguard worth going for if you don't have anyone in six star rarity

[abstract mauve]

phase 2 in comparison is exceedingly easy

[iron wigeon]

How do you counter the bear? Im having a real hard time on it

[raven ermine]

You drop nian on its head

[lunar apex]

top + healing for kaltist gamble

[abstract mauve]

top + healing is a better gamble. even top op alone is better than vanguard

[mild turtle]

1.2k def defender, healer spam, and lappland for silencing

[raven ermine]

Mostly just high def values and medics

[muted harbor]

I have a "promote one senior e2 operator to level 80" thing, is it worth using on any of them (plus getting them to e2 in the first place)? In a "it wouldn't normally be worth the exp/lmd, but since it's not using exp/lmd this character is good" way past e2

[abstract mauve]

i got just the thing for you shawty #help message

[iron wigeon]

Would hoshi be good?

[pliant sleet]

Medic is stocked for me
(kalt'sit + mon3tr)

[lyric lagoon]

stun, long range bait the bear, tank it (high def and consistent healing with sanctuary/def buff)

[mild turtle]

which one

[lunar apex]

then solo top tag ig

[mild turtle]

cuz there's like 2 hoshis

[undone wren]

Wish I had arturia

[pliant sleet]

Alr we gambaa, I pray no hellagar

[neat kayak]

based on the characters i have, in wich future banners should i pull?
https://www.krooster.com/u/clean-ochre-morgan-14ny

[iron wigeon]

The s2 old hoshi

[raven ermine]

Sure, hoshi would work fine
You can also stall it by making it walk back and forth with cheap ranged units

[abstract mauve]

wang

[mild turtle]

yeah i think she works well there

[spare kelp]

ahhhh ok thanks brother

[iron wigeon]

Idk, it’s kinda hard to do since the map the bear is in is covered in that black mist where I can’t deploy my ops

[raven ermine]

Just make sure you drop hoshi right on top of the boss, because you won't get modx def if you don't and you'll get shredded

[mild turtle]

wait is this fucking h16-4

[pliant sleet]

Another lane holder

[iron wigeon]

Yeah

[mild turtle]

i thought this was 16-12

[raven ermine]

For h16-4 you'll have dp so you don't need to do the pathfinding shuffle early on
Just drop hoshi and like haruka/your flavor of medics and you should be fine

[lunar apex]

+1 gold cert
next time u should post this in #salt-mines to avoid clogging the chat

[abstract mauve]

oh wait you were serious
i unironically borrowed sankta miksaparato from my welfare account

[iron wigeon]

Well, normally I just use tragodia to stall but he can’t do that here cuz black mist covered entire map and the miners get demolished by the bear before they could reveal the tiles

[pliant sleet]

Mbmb, I will be more careful next time. Ty for the suggestion

[mild turtle]

dumb question but do burn and frozen cancel if one status is put on the other

[abstract mauve]

nae. arknights doesnt do that

[lyric lagoon]

one is a status ailment (frozen) and the other elemental damage (burn), diff mechanics and systems

[iron wigeon]

Are there any ops that can kill the bear quickly?

[abstract mauve]

they both decrease res tho iirc so that's a cool combo ig

[abstract mauve]

exu2 but even then i wouldnt call it particularly quick

[bold panther]

what module for lumen and excutioner alter?

whats lumen best module? cuz am using him as single healer

[abstract mauve]

mod named Luck level 1

[bold panther]

thanks you and for excutioner alter?

[abstract mauve]

modx lvl 3

[lethal void]

should i build texas alter?

[abstract mauve]

maybe? depends on what you have or if you want a panic button

[ancient current]

she isn't a bad unit to have

handy in content where she doesn't instantly explode on deployment

[abstract mauve]

and where her damage can actually kill enemies

[ancient current]

i mean sometimes just the stun is good enough as util

[worldly carbon]

gen content basically?

[ancient current]

but yeah ig

[nimble kite]

Aerial Stun can instakill Hovering enemies, should they be near the hole.

[abstract mauve]

so can krooster

[ancient current]

so can spuria

[nimble kite]

Really broken in IS3.

[lethal void]

so, do i build her or nah?

[ancient current]

what's your roster

[nimble kite]

You can. Don't think that's prio tho.

[hidden nacelle]

hole kill doesnt count for tex reset though. no?

[nimble kite]

Mmm, don't remember that part tbh.

Yet she kills trash so fast she can reactivate her skill one more time.

[ancient current]

she could easily replace gravel in most situations

I'd say she's worth a shot for you

[hidden nacelle]

yikes why is your ave team not fully modded
and why is nyamu the choice of levl 80...
also lemuen mod please her gun is kinda homeless

[lethal void]

working on it

[tropic estuary]

Hello
Who i upgrade first
Lumen or honeyberry?

[lyric lagoon]

is neither an option

[spark sage]

is it possible to save 300 pulls before wang?

[hidden nacelle]

really taking the take your time p5 pfp at face value ig

[hidden nacelle]

are you done main story and most side stories or nah

[spark sage]

i just stared, i am at chap 3-1 rn

[ancient current]

easily

[hidden nacelle]

then yeah youll hit that 300 easily

[spark sage]

[hidden nacelle]

why 400 for kalter? you aiming for earlyish p6 or what

[floral light]

is kal2 intended for s2 or s3 redeploy shenanigans

actual healer or what

[burnt root]

if you have no medics raised, I would raise lower rarity medics first. if you want a 6* medic and really like lumen, then lumen. if you are specifically in need of a wandering medic to clear elemental injury, which sometimes you will be, then honeyberry

[ancient current]

yes

[lyric lagoon]

depends on your team and strategy

[hidden nacelle]

kal is meant to have 2 usable skills dont just force her to fit into one place (as with a lot of many other ops)

[raven ermine]

Likely s2 main usage, s3 when needed
Didn't check her numbers yet, but likely only s3 for already good rosters

[frigid stream]

I would say s2 main usage a

[floral light]

are the hps and dps numbers on s2 above average or below

[worldly carbon]

prob another true damage dealer and healer second with s2 right

[hidden nacelle]

if mayu hasnt checked the number no one has give it up lil bro

[lyric lagoon]

5kish true damage per hit, pretty good but doesn’t scale cause ammo based

[raven ermine]

you give me too much credit 🥹

[floral light]

what the help glaze

[worldly carbon]

s2 gives her 150% atk and she has around 500 atk or so at max level and she deals 380% of her atk as true damage that's prob like 4.8k max
iirc

[raven ermine]

I'm sure the numbers were calc'd day one, i just don't care enough about it
I'm pulling either way

[hidden nacelle]

true

[worldly carbon]

so true bestie

[frigid stream]

Just checked, its above 5

[abstract mauve]

ye should be 4.8k. healing is like 2.5k. in terms of healing i think it's some pretty damn high hps. damage is alright but for me it's the slow combined with aoe and take-off that makes her good

[quick jolt]

damage can be unreliable in some scenarios too considering she can spend ammo to heal shit

which im pre sure also deals aoe dmg to stuff around that operator?

[lyric lagoon]

aside from s2, s3 cycling isn’t all that bad with the rdp, especially with the additional other 2 ops that get targeted for rdp

[abstract mauve]

ye it's like folinic but good

[nocturne topaz]

Hi, is there like a guide or spread sheet for operator’s needed materials for mastery? (Specifically pramanix alter), since im trying to spend my sanity as best as I could while my skalter is still in the training room and my sanity at 172

[lyric lagoon]

use krooster.com

[nocturne topaz]

I will look it up. thanks!

[quick jolt]

^it has a planner feature where you can input all the upgrades you intend to make and it will show you all materials needed

[ancient current]

https://krooster.com

[nocturne topaz]

Oh wow, it does, it can even go up to mastery 3. Thanks a lot!

[sand grail]

Does practice mode count toward module unlock mission?
I don't want to spend extra sanity

[ancient current]

no

but you can do OF stages to do mod missions

0 sanity stages

[sand grail]

I mean the stage specific one

[limber pecan]

as long as it doesnt require the specific stage

[hidden nacelle]

no just use the 20 sanity as intended man

[ancient current]

ah, well no lol

[limber pecan]

how many sui are left alive and unplayable and not evil

[ancient current]

weren't there 3
forgot

[ivory terrace]

might as well do those module missions b4 the rerun start

[worldly carbon]

I think it's 5
4 if you consider being alive?

[quick jolt]

4? jun, ji, yi, fang. then jie is dead

[ancient current]

oh yeah forgot fang

[quick jolt]

yeah bc hes the only one we havent seen

[limber pecan]

so 5 more years till ling alter thx guys

[worldly carbon]

a man can dream

[hidden nacelle]

theyre cooking something to bring jie back

[limber pecan]

er might be spoilers so only click if you wanna but ||did this succeed||?

[coarse notch]

his plan worked yes

[ancient current]

that is for #ak-lore

[limber pecan]

true but partially related to the question i asked earlier

[ancient current]

still for ak lore

[nova oak]

a tad off topic, but does anyone know why this might be happening in google play?

[placid pond]

same is happening to me

[nova oak]

ah so it's probabaly an issue on their part

[limber pecan]

uninstall gpg and redownload it, i had the same problem and it seems like most of us do

[nova oak]

did that fix it?

[limber pecan]

can a mod make a pin for this? i see this question a lot

[nova oak]

how did you uninstall it?

[limber pecan]

on your computer setting page there is apps, then search google play games, select uninstall. you should also already have the gpg installer still in your downloads so just search it up there

[ancient sonnet]

You can also consider running it on something else - like Mumu

[nova oak]

why would i do that?

[ancient sonnet]

Didn't crash for me yet, while gpg was crashing like crazy during icebreaker

[limber pecan]

ive had no problems with gpg until today

[nova oak]

gpg has had no problems for me, this one being the first. + i wouldn't trust an app called mumu with my credit card details lmao

[limber pecan]

yeah dont wanna get in a data leak sometime

[pale tapir]

yea u can debate all u want about the security of other emulators but gpg has a known history of being buggy and unstable for many users it is what it is

[nova oak]

of which i'm not a part of so

[chrome tiger]

not yet 🤫

[nova oak]

been using it consistently for over a year now, so far so good

[little pike]

Can I clear h15-4?

[stray grotto]

how do i get extra slots in base?

[chrome tiger]

Yes

[ancient sonnet]

Wdym extra slots?

[pale tapir]

wdym extra slots?

[wraith shoal]

3 is the max, except for cc which has 5. Some rooms have lower max slots too

[chrome tiger]

That’s maxed slots

[stray grotto]

theres 3 slots and 2 slots there that seem to be unavailable i mean

[nova oak]

@limber pecan that did not fix the issue for me btw, now i just can't install it lmao, will probably give it a while and see whether it gets fixed by itself

[ancient sonnet]

That's max for those facilities. You can't get more unless they introduce level 4

[stray grotto]

aight got it

im looking at a arknights base guide and it shows all the factories with like 5 characters

[pale tapir]

5 slots on each fac would lowkey be annoying to set up with 2 rotations

[wraith shoal]

many factories+ these are general recommendations

[ancient sonnet]

No no, those are just options

[stray grotto]

Ah okay

[quick jolt]

its not telling you to use all of those together, those are a list of individual operators good in facotry

[undone portal]

its just a list of the best options

[quick jolt]

if its a specific combo, itll tell you that

yes shileds whyd you delete

[wraith shoal]

we saw that shileds

[abstract mauve]

wrong. uhhh chat. no one saw that

[pale tapir]

yes u should

[ancient sonnet]

We did

[raven ermine]

Yes you should

[abstract mauve]

bet

[quick jolt]

not wrong chat you came into hashtag help for hashtag help

[raven ermine]

Drop me a link when you're done

[ancient current]

I saw that

[abstract mauve]

i swear i didnt mean it

[undone portal]

tbh viy + astgennalt s3 sounds like a fun combo

[nova oak]

has arknights officially endorsed any of the launchers?

[abstract mauve]

kinda?

[pseudo lotus]

https://www.krooster.com/u/swift-lemon-yak-84l0

What should I prioritize next? I just e2’d pram

[undone portal]

no need to when youve published your own already

[abstract mauve]

was LD player endoresed by AK?

[quick jolt]

i wouldnt be surprised if they endorsed gpg but gpg is ass anyway

[nova oak]

?

[undone portal]

gpg is an official port
pc client is a launcher technically

[abstract mauve]

CN has an official PC launcher

[nova oak]

yeah, gpg is not working rn D:

[quick jolt]

i would assume it isnt just because its multi-game feature is directly against TOS

[nova oak]

hopefully they fix it, gpg has been running really well for me so far

[quick jolt]

its really bad, i personally recommend mumuplayer

thank god you didnt get it to work because it wouldve been miserable!

[abstract mauve]

even when gpg is running well i'd still recommend switching to LD player or even better mumu

[undone portal]

whens the steam port theyre clearly working on

[abstract mauve]

mumu kinda goated. feels like an actual emulator

[wanton thorn]

Ceobe worth building up still?

[nova oak]

i'm not giving my card details to netease (mumuplayer), i've been using gpg for like a year now and it's been working really fine, this is the first issue

[shy quiver]

Nah, GPG is better if you don't intend to do anything but run the game

[wraith shoal]

doesnt one of the emulators have a bs border thing? Which one was it, LD?

[pale tapir]

if you need her usecase sure
if you don't lower priority

[abstract mauve]

gpg is definitely not better even if all you intend to run is AK

[shy quiver]

Definitely is

[pale tapir]

what makes it better

[shy quiver]

Performance

[raven ermine]

it's definitely not lol

[abstract mauve]

boy das cap

[wraith shoal]

better at crashing than the rest

[nova oak]

it's subjective, for some people it works nice and for some it does not, also it's a big plus for people who value their safety lol

[abstract mauve]

well it's device dependent which emulator works for you best. if gpg works for you than im glad but for most that's not the case

[placid pond]

i fully uninstalled everything because of people saying that fixes is, but nah lol, maybe i shouldn't just listen randos online lol

[abstract mauve]

this might have to do with virtualization tho but ye

[shy quiver]

If "most" is just yourself, sure

[nova oak]

same, lol

[pale tapir]

lol well if they're not comfy using other emulators they can just get their phone/tablet and install the game there while google fixes their shiz yea

[abstract mauve]

you highly doubt how many people i know who've outright endoresed mumuplayer because of how much better it is. ldplayer also has it's fair share of fans

[nova oak]

i'm actually surprised how many of you are like really okay with using 3rd party emulators made by neatease and companies like that lmao

[abstract mauve]

google isnt a shining beacon of hope brother

[wraith shoal]

ah yes cause Google is a saint

[nova oak]

are we really comparing google to netease?

[placid pond]

i've never had an issue with gpg and now ppl pretending like it doesn't work, just ignore the nonsense, surely a temp issue

[quick jolt]

i literally said the same shit unprompted earlier in this convo so clearly its not an unpopular opinion

[abstract mauve]

the biggest bussiness in advertising wouldnt want to steal your information?

[ancient current]

this discussion is starting to not pertain to this channel anymore
drop the topic

[ancient sonnet]

"better" is not the word I'd use. It's slower than gpg but massively more stable

[pale tapir]

meow shh the lord of 5 stars has spoken

[nova oak]

they can take my information as much as they want, every company does that, the difference is that netease then proceeded to have a 280mil data leak lmao
Dropping the topic now

[quick jolt]

recently someone asked me to help them setup mumu and i didnt realize what they meant so i accidentally wrote an essay on how to use muelsyse

[nova oak]

also theres a steam port being worked on? is that true?

[chrome tiger]

They have their own launcher

[nova oak]

what do you mean? 😭 why am i using gpg then

[abstract mauve]

you download it online and launch AK

[wraith shoal]

google had an 183 mil data leak as well fairly recently, they arent so safe. But off topic so

[pale tapir]

CN only rn

[chrome tiger]

Because AKEN is not on it duh

[nova oak]

ohh, any chance it comes to global?

[abstract mauve]

we dont know

[wraith shoal]

depends on yostar

[chrome tiger]

Hahaha perchance mayhaps

[wraith shoal]

couldnt HG just distribute the game themselves on global? Why would they have to go through yostar first

[chrome tiger]

Legal contracts

they cant just rugpull oyster that’d get the gov on their ass

[pseudo lotus]

Anyone have recs?

[wraith shoal]

that contract cant be permanent. Hopefully they stop working with yostar but oh well, will probably never happen

[hidden wolf]

No way they sign 10 year contract

[chrome tiger]

Prioritize leveling your e2 to lv 60

[pseudo lotus]

Kk should I just focus on farming lmd/event stages when there’s no event?

[wraith shoal]

do not farm lmd stages, ever

[bold panther]

Whats module should i get for executor alter?

[chrome tiger]

farm materials from story stages

[wraith shoal]

do older event stages for OP

[chrome tiger]

For stronghold or normal use?

[bold panther]

Lane holder

I wanna just place him down and not worry about the dude

[chrome tiger]

The 60 hp one

[nimble kite]

He's mostly DPS, so he needs S3M3 ModX3.

[bold panther]

People told me, he works as a lane holder with his hp and healing

[nimble kite]

Ummm, that would work only until big hammer enemy will show up.

If he hits harder than ExecutorAlter heals, he will fall eventually.

[chrome tiger]

yeah but why are you letting him solo a hammer bro

[quick jolt]

hes not very tanky but his dmg is fine for general laneholding

[chrome tiger]

also he should be able to handle hammer bros fine actually since his dmg is decent

[shy quiver]

Is it ever worth spending Originium for Sanity?

[nimble kite]

Which in that case would work S2M3 ModY3, but you need to say "byebye" to damage and leak enemies he cannot take anymore.

And cope with RNG dodges, yeah.

[ivory terrace]

if u swipe lol

[quick jolt]

its not the worst thing you can do but you usually should try to avoid it

[chrome tiger]

only if you are REALLY sure what you’re doing with that sanity (aka never lol)

[undone portal]

reapers arent really built for dueling tough enemies, you want other trash in the lane

[quick jolt]

infact wouldnt rly say its necessarily bad to do, but it depends on how badly you want those OP for pulls or other things ig

[hidden wolf]

Should i max saki mod

[chrome tiger]

everything for saki chan

[nimble kite]

Lv2 just fine, Lv3 if you want more damage.

[ancient sonnet]

Her mod is really strong

[lyric lagoon]

solo blades are more of the duelists, specifically zuole cause old man hellagur ain't doin allat nowadays

[crude monolith]

is pram2 mod3 worth it?

[chrome tiger]

aka they forgot to put the melee dmg clause in her base kit so this is your bandaid fix

[quick jolt]

saki lv2 is more like the bare minimum than a good stopping point

shes useable at lvl2 but theres barely any reason beyond being broke to not get lvl3

[native cargo]

is bubbles good

[ancient current]

basically cuora

[quick jolt]

shes fine for a 4star but use cuora instead

[ancient current]

[quick jolt]

i mean they're really not much different tbf

[native cargo]

can she block bear

[quick jolt]

yes

[native cargo]

alr nice

[quick jolt]

but get her module lvl1 atleast and deploy her directly on top of it, otherwise she might die before you can deploy a healer

[nimble kite]

Why block when you can kite

[nova oak]

whats sleepknights?

[wraith shoal]

titi abuse or something probably

[ivory terrace]

u basically just use operators who abuse sleep mechanics

in 2026 that is basically titi + erato

[nova oak]

oooh

[chrome tiger]

Basically you kill the rest of the map with your other slots then put the boss to sleep for the next 2 hours

[ancient sonnet]

There are ops that prio sleeping enemies or deal extra damage

[nimble kite]

*AND.

[chrome tiger]

personally i wouldnt recommend actually playing sleepknight

because you get hit by sleep irl too

[stuck kelp]

Google Play Games broken again?

[wraith shoal]

been like that for some hours yeah

[stuck kelp]

sigh

[muted trellis]

Why can't l open the game ? I can't uninstall it either and it worked fine yesterday it's really weird. Anyone found a fix to this ?

[wraith shoal]

google play games shat the bed again

[ancient sonnet]

Wdym can't uninstall?

[urban sleet]

2 ppl managed to fix their gpg but like why bother anymore

[wraith shoal]

I caved and downloaded mumu

[urban sleet]

Me too I am not reinstalling the entire gqme everu time I need to check on my base

I dont bave good internet either so it takes up 60-90 mins

[formal shadow]

Just have good internet ya

[muted trellis]

Popup says l can't uninstall :/

[wraith shoal]

on a sidenote, can we change the cursor in mumu, this one is kinda ugly @urban sleet

[urban sleet]

[wraith shoal]

delete it from the settings

[ancient current]

remember where to ask this whenever it isn't arknights, if you get to ping the guy

also, try to redirect gpg questions to #tech-support

I'll try to pin something there

[craggy forge]

what happened to midnight jp va?

[nimble kite]

VA entered the wrong temple and people are getting pissed off.

TL;DR - he gets "canceled".

[wraith shoal]

changed cause he went to a specific shrine

[craggy forge]

bruh i really liked his voice(thanks everyone btw)

[jolly bridge]

Should I be using Lappland the Decadenza and Goldenglow in same team or is that too much drone drone?

[nimble kite]

Well, get used to new one.

[wraith shoal]

didnt that exact same thing happen with someone else too some years ago? Like platinum or something

[nimble kite]

Elysium.

[abstract mauve]

elysium, aware

[wraith shoal]

oh I thought it was a female va

[ancient current]

platinum too

[urban sleet]

Subclass dont matter
Its more about roles
Both are for dmg and more dmg never hurts

[ancient current]

but that was because her va made a certain comment within a specific shrine

but anyways

[nimble kite]

moving on?

[vital kelp]

although gg doesnt really have more dmg nowday does she

lowkey use others

[urban sleet]

True but thqts a different story

[spiral gust]

@fervent dagger update when?

[lyric lagoon]

pins

[flint onyx]

Cc 5 was announced on cn stream for cn server, but do we have date

[quick jolt]

no

[fresh anvil]

is it a year after the previous cc?

[lyric lagoon]

go into the future and tell us

[nova oak]

can you get sankta somehow? or was he limited

[ivory terrace]

event welfare

[nova oak]

is he on the records that you can unlock?

[lyric lagoon]

not right now, wait for exu2 event rerun in about 6-7 months

[coarse notch]

no, hes rerunning in 6 months with the masses travels

[ivory terrace]

in CN his event will rerun later

[nova oak]

say that again... how many months?

[rustic notch]

Help I'm getting my ass kicked in 15-20

[lyric lagoon]

lets move to #strategy to further discuss this

[plain hemlock]

When is duel channel coming back, assuming same CN schedule?

[coarse notch]

late october

[dense walrus]

what do you call this? it's unreadable

[coarse notch]

zwillingstürme im herbst

[ancient sonnet]

Zwillingstürme im Herbst

[coarse notch]

twin towers in autumn in english

[dense walrus]

no wonder it's unreadable it's in german

[dense walrus]

that's a crazy translation

[coarse notch]

i mean the story is about twin towers during the autumn

[abstract mauve]

it's a crazy translation

[left tulip]

im aware its not gonna matter that much but still, ideas for which i should go to?

[dense walrus]

what exactly does challenging mean? it can't be harder than actual endgame?

[abstract mauve]

no lmao

[ancient current]

feater for base

[random shard]

Feater
Tho for base is kinda uh not it. You wouldn't e2 for strictly for base unless you just love base

[coarse notch]

not even close, it just hg thought it was harder than a normal event

[ancient current]

greater

[left tulip]

is she a valid enough op as well js out of curiosity

[ancient sonnet]

She's a shift so a niche

[coarse notch]

so niche that you shouldnt bother

[ancient current]

I find her decent in is5 and is6

[random shard]

Autocorrect doing me dirty

[left tulip]

thats not much different for the other two i assume

[dense walrus]

I'm going thought random intermezzi that i haven't unlocked and deciding which one to unlock. i got like 8 left

[coarse notch]

still a free e0 30% exp worker

[ancient current]

the other two are worse 👍

it's like a choice between mediocre, ok, bison but worse

[coarse notch]

theres only like 7 intermezzi in the game, everything else is a normal side story
tho i dont blame you because hg's update to the story collection makes it impossible to differentiate now

[dense walrus]

i thought all these counted as intermezzi

[coarse notch]

the only intermezzi in those 6 is lone trail

[dense walrus]

what exactly does intermezzi mean i assumed it's what you call events that became permanent additions to the game

[coarse notch]

those are just side story events

[dense walrus]

is intermezzi the one with tequila that has special passives?

[coarse notch]

intermezzi are (usually bigger) events that are immediately available after their 1st run and contain story elements that are relevant to the main theme

side story events are only permanently available after their rerun

[dense walrus]

so wang, hoshiguma, tragodia events will be available as permanent stages next year?

silverash2+

[coarse notch]

none of those are intermezzi so they're not available to be played until their rerun next year yes

[dense walrus]

so it has to get a second rerun to be later made into a stage

[wraith sentinel]

The stages become permanent after their first rerun, the Record Restoration containing among other things the welfare Operator and some Furniture is a year after that.

[coarse notch]

non-vignette story events will get one rerun regardless of intermezzi or sidestory
intermezzi are just available before that rerun, whereas side stories are locked until after they rerun

logic being that locking main storyline info for a year isnt great

[woven mica]

What masteries should I prioritize on saalt

[ancient current]

s3

[woven mica]

So even if I upgrade s2 m3 the initial sp will remain same ?

[balmy panther]

you will understand once you taste it

[wraith sentinel]

S2M3 gives +1 initial SP.

[balmy panther]

exalt event is... built different

[ancient current]

it increases up to 9 at m3, but the overall gains are too poor to be worth it

[brazen gulch]

How to kill this enemy on this map if the device that disables its 90% damage reduction is not present in said map?

[coarse notch]

dunno, i thought hortus was fine
only a bad experience if you try to braindead bumrush it

[balmy panther]

either very big damage or true/elemental damage

theres a reason why virtuosa giga cheesed lapplands event

[brazen gulch]

leizi s3 dealt like 15% of its hp wdym big damage 😭

[ancient sonnet]

Try Mon3tr

[balmy panther]

im talking kings relics + chaliced walter/lapp2 levels of big damage

[ancient current]

known king relics in is6

[flint onyx]

Is rose salt good medic? Will check her kit, but as for a welfare is she at least on the level of silence and ptilopsis? And thoughts on doing s2m3 module lvl3 on purestream for is runs, as with recent banners I tend to be able to get to higher difficulties and geting silence/ptilopsis in Is is bad for my hope

[brazen gulch]

so i don't even try to touch this stage if i don't have true damage?

[balmy panther]

block4 also helps with the trucks

[ancient current]

yes, she is good

[balmy panther]

shes budget core for IS6 ed2

50% damage offset is that good if the alternative is you getting one shot

if you arent getting one shot tho, you have better options

[balmy panther]

you get my point

[abstract mauve]

twk

[coarse notch]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nLtoz2EPE

d15 relicless 2ops

[abstract mauve]

raidian s3 works well in most of my runs ye

[balmy panther]

relicless 2 ops
tumbnail has 3

[cloud storm]

Is fang alter good???

[ancient current]

no

[vital kelp]

no

[brazen gulch]

thanks but it's a different stage

[coarse notch]

wtf i copied the wrong one
its in the playlist

[abstract mauve]

[dense walrus]

so Ato stages will rerun in January and then be added in 2027?

[abstract mauve]

around january. we dont know exact rerun date
but ye rerun then 1 year later record restoration

[dense walrus]

what they gonna rerun with hoshi alter again?

[abstract mauve]

no rerun only offrate/spark

[timber finch]

limiteds never rerun

[coarse notch]

凭器-沙滩车(未建) find this video in the playlist

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nLtoz2EPE/?p=11

[brazen gulch]

found right as you sent thanks

[coarse notch]

[vital kelp]

lim banner dont rerun with event

[coarse notch]

theres also m3 + chetto and mlynar + sash2 playlists but i lost them

[brazen gulch]

ohhkay yeah this is super clean, i could've definitely emulated this

[abstract mauve]

<@&586570970345635868>

[dense walrus]

thanks for the money

[echo venture]

moderator please deal with this

[ancient current]

okay

[dense walrus]

are any of these from this image good?

[ancient current]

reedic is fine ya

[ancient sonnet]

Reed alt is decent

[dense walrus]

i got that one already, next

[coarse notch]

can you scroll down

[ancient current]

uh, skip

[dense walrus]

i only wanted information for this image

[pliant summit]

Is snow hunter good. My YT reccomended is getting blasted with videos of her

[abstract mauve]

wdym you got reed alt already is this an outdated image

[ancient current]

no

[ancient current]

skip

👍

[dense walrus]

that's because this isn't my image im using it for reference

[abstract mauve]

everyone in the image is a goober so not worth

[coarse notch]

hope you're aware that the selector updates every time it comes around

[glass mural]

Do you specifically like running 5 star knights only?

[random shard]

You can look at your individual pool you know
Before you buy it I mean

[ancient current]

I would lowk go entel after reedic 😂

[ancient sonnet]

Typhoon can be useable in gen content but uhm...

[dense walrus]

my current interests are mylnar, logos, ascalon, ulpanus

[ancient current]

they are not in this image

[random shard]

None in the image lmao

[coarse notch]

they are all on that selector tho

[abstract mauve]

i think i'd go entel before reedic now
especially considering reedic in voucher in 6 months anywhow

[dense walrus]

except for the ones i mentioned are any other good?

[ancient current]

mon3ter and ines

[glass mural]

Mon3tr.

[ancient sonnet]

Mon3tr, Necrass, Ascalon, Ines, Ulpi, Logos, Młynar

[abstract mauve]

there's like 5 good choices ye

[dense walrus]

i thought necrass was ass?

[ancient current]

necrass is good

[glass mural]

Ehh, she's alright.

[coarse notch]

shes pretty good just not mlynar/mon3tr/etc

[abstract mauve]

she's decent but i wouldnt pick her

[dense walrus]

do i really need monster if i have haruka and ptilopsis?

[coarse notch]

different things

[ancient current]

[dense walrus]

thank you, i will note this

[ancient sonnet]

There are quite alot of good ops in that screen

[shy quiver]

Is it worth spending a bunch of sanity to push story missions just so I can unlock some of the better sanity/material stages?

[coarse notch]

mon3tr is primarily a buffer + dps who also has pretty good healing
haruka and ptilo are healers and only healers

[abstract mauve]

for that reason? no
any other reason would've been fine tbh

[dense walrus]

what about degen, ray and typhon?

[native cargo]

Can cuora survive 1st hit of patriot

[coarse notch]

lmfao no

[ancient current]

quite a tier below

[dense walrus]

okay

[ancient sonnet]

Ray is a bosskiller, but not on par with the rest

[nimble grove]

is there a guide?

[dense walrus]

you mean like surtr

[coarse notch]

surtr is in the basement

[shy quiver]

So, save my sanity for events mostly with a bit of story on the side?
Also, do all events include 1-2 stages with aazing material drop rates?

[glass mural]

I use Mon3tr more than Haruka in my runs tbh. Practically uncontested for medic vouchers.

[dense walrus]

i actually bought the ticket a while ago and my first instinct was to pick ines

[coarse notch]

for what
the game in general? pins -> roadless camelot -> beginner guide for some info
read the in game tutorials and ask questions here

[ancient sonnet]

Meele vs ranged and Ray hits like truck-kun

[ancient current]

I mean, good instinct

[dense walrus]

i just don't see the point in getting mylnar if i already have sakiko, and logos if I'm using pramanix, it's like double firepower

[vital kelp]

But firepower good

[wraith shoal]

mlynar and sakiko do different things

[ancient sonnet]

Młynar is more vs Leizi alt than Sakiko

[dense walrus]

i wish leizi alt was in the selector

[wraith shoal]

she will be in the next one

[coarse notch]

mlynar still super good

[dense copper]

how does damatzi warp work in the new gamemode trying to make tragodia resilient?

[glass mural]

Mylnar has better targetting aspects a good chunk of the time, speaking from personal experience here.

[abstract mauve]

events that arent mini events generally have 1-3 good drop rate stages. good as in more efficient than main story stages even while only taking into consideration the miniscule amounts infinite lmd from event shop. saving sanity pots for events you know are soon is a good idea generally ye. if no event is running, you can just go ahead and get from main story / side story missions and or farm red cert/skill books/chips etc.

[dense walrus]

I'll probably pick monster or logos in that one 💯

[coarse notch]

logos will be certable around then tho

[glass mural]

A note can only do damage to one thing, so first one guy is dying, then another, then another.

[ancient lotus]

you need to find 'tough launcher' (tier 1 item)

[dense walrus]

are Dorothy, Ebenholz, Zuo Le useless?

[wraith sentinel]

Leizi the Thunderbringer does suffer a bit from terrain dependency yeah, but I do like her S1 a lot.

[vital kelp]

Yes yes no

[abstract mauve]

dorothy and zuo le are decent but not close to the big boys

[ancient lotus]

they've done a really poor job translating. Supposedly the item should contain the word resilient in it but 'tough' is all we have

[shy quiver]

I believe a new event starts tomorrow. Is that correct?

[coarse notch]

eben yes
the other two no but they're not as good as the ones we've listed
and doro is getting cooked by wang in 3 months

[glass mural]

The practical range is much better because notes fly, the targetting of enemies is more annoying, because notes don't hit as many things at the same time as Mylnar schwings.

[dense walrus]

what do u use Dorothy for, it's like using wang jr

[coarse notch]

she has decent damage and control on s3, and bind stall on s2
unfortunately wang has 99% slow on s2 and a nuclear bomb on s3

[dense walrus]

I thought Nymph was Yu and got excited and then disappointed, because they looked similar

[ancient sonnet]

Nymph is okay really tbh, won't break the game but pack a punch

[mild yacht]

Not new, rerun, so shorter than average events.

[abstract mauve]

a rerun of lapp2 event starts tomorrow ye. it has rama-70 as the efficient farming mat and since it's a rerun it's shorter duration and smaller shop

[shy quiver]

Gotcha. Is that worth pulling on at all?

[abstract mauve]

there's no new banner since it's a rerun of a limited event

[ancient sonnet]

It's a rerun

[mild yacht]

There’s nothing to pull because it had a limited banner.

[shy quiver]

Ah, RIP

[coarse notch]

ngl even if lappalt did rerun i dont think you'd pull anyways

[ancient lotus]

theres nothing to pull on for the next 2 ish months

[abstract mauve]

mfw wang if you just wait a bit

[mild yacht]

So you get ten days to do three maps of stages.

[coarse notch]

sandwiched between jane and john arts damage

[dense walrus]

what about quibai and blaze alter? are these two mid?

[abstract mauve]

spot on

[dense walrus]

thorns alter too???

[ancient lotus]

they're usable sometimes but not what you want to be running generally

[dense walrus]

aint no way regular thorns is better than alter

[wraith shoal]

both suck

[abstract mauve]

nop he's also mid

[ancient lotus]

you dont run regular thorns

[wraith sentinel]

Different usages anyway.

[ancient current]

Battle of Mid (colorized)

[dense walrus]

i sure will till i get mylnar or ch3n

[coarse notch]

but those are different ops too

[wraith shoal]

again,mlynar and lords do different things

[ancient current]

thorns had a hidden talent and should've kept it hidden

[abstract mauve]

doesnt have to do the same thing to completely blow thorns out the water

[ancient sonnet]

Thorns never got to the water in the first place

[dense walrus]

so mylnar has aoe, sakiko has aoe, thorns has slight range, what exactly is different?

[ancient lotus]

sakiko does not have aoe except S2 which is not her main skill

[ancient sonnet]

S2 is not aoe tho

[wraith sentinel]

Just pierce I think?

[abstract mauve]

pierce ye

[wraith shoal]

mlynar is a liberator. He does nothing for 40 seconds

[ancient lotus]

pierce yeah

[little geode]

Which 5* (if any) should I get from purchase certificates

[ancient current]

mlynar has damage, sakiko has damage, thorns has
thorns has
thorns has uh
uhhhhhhhhh

[wraith sentinel]

None really.

[ancient sonnet]

None

[ancient lotus]

thorns has nervous impairment

[ancient current]

how broken...

[dense walrus]

i think i knew this because i have tequila

[abstract mauve]

something he shares with miss christine

[wraith sentinel]

Catto.

[ancient current]

[coarse notch]

thorns is used as a consistent laneholder that constantly kills trash mobs
sakiko is ST nuker on s3 and a better thorns on s2
mlynar is an aoe nuker and deployment order ignore enabler

[little geode]

what's worth spending the purchase certificates on? Epic tokens or saving for royal tokens?

[abstract mauve]

[coarse notch]

chip catalysts and mod blocks

[little geode]

Word ty

[wraith shoal]

royal tokens maybe too since they'll reset soon-ish

[abstract mauve]

they're expensive as balls

[ancient lotus]

royal tokens is the better of the two
they reset in about 6 months

[little geode]

I only have 702 rn so idk

[mild yacht]

And one copy of the ops for 🎫.

[coarse notch]

thoughts on if the atk pot on mlynar is worth almost 3k red certs

[abstract mauve]

you need 4 for 1 pot btw

[dense walrus]

also isn't mylnar's liberation break shortened by SA2 so he in fact becomes better for me to have

[ancient lotus]

not at all, why

[wraith shoal]

he still needs to wait for his attack to increase

[mild yacht]

Mod laughs at waiting.

[ancient lotus]

SA2 only gives sp, not his liberator passive

[wraith shoal]

yeah it's more a late game player thing tbh

[dense walrus]

i thought it was the same accumulation 💯

[wraith sentinel]

SP is unrelated to Trait.

[ancient lotus]

sp and liberator passive effect are two different things.

Before mlynar's module his passive is only charged half way when his first skill is up

[vital kelp]

Initial sp

They both charge 1 per second naturally but u can charge sp using other stuff while u can’t charge talent with other stuff

Without mod talent start at 0 but sp start at 23 or some so

[dense walrus]

i can't even pronounce his name how the hell do you say mwinar

[wraith sentinel]

(Only Leizi S1 benefits properly from SP buffs)

[abstract mauve]

moi nar

[vital kelp]

Ma en na

[ancient sonnet]

You say it "Młynar" 🙂

[dense walrus]

i thought it was m ly nar

[wraith shoal]

there's a website that says how to pronounce the kazimierz names. Not #help related though

[dense walrus]

so would you say mylnar is a pick over logos or monster?

[vital kelp]

No

[ancient sonnet]

They do different things totally

[ancient lotus]

it depends on who you have

[dense walrus]

haruka, healer, surtr true damage, sakiko guard. zero liberators or medic dps

[ancient sonnet]

Młynar won't save you if you don't have any other dpses

[abstract mauve]

mmmmmm. he can

[ancient lotus]

you lost me at surtr true damage

[dense walrus]

well i am supposed to use s3?

[ancient sonnet]

Do you have a krooster?

[dense walrus]

i have lemon

i pretty much use pramanix, tragodia, Sakiko, lemon and ines as dps and not what they should be used for

[ancient lotus]

krooster.com

[wraith sentinel]

https://www.krooster.com

[dense walrus]

i can't login there

[wraith sentinel]

not what they should be used for
?
Half of those are damage dealers.

[ancient sonnet]

Wdym "half"

[dense walrus]

well i usually drop ines in front of enemy spawns

[abstract mauve]

[wraith sentinel]

As an Agent that's her role...

[dense copper]

how do i know why faction an item is cetered around in the new gamemode?

[dense walrus]

in front of the red box? so you aren't supposed to put her to sit at the blue box lol

[wraith sentinel]

Agent Vanguards generally need enemies to generate DP and do what they do.

[abstract mauve]

in front of enemy. not in front of either red or blue box

[ancient sonnet]

Is that a stronghold question? #stronghold-hall in that case

[dense walrus]

that's what i meant, for her s2 to cover the range

[wraith sentinel]

What did you think Ines was supposed to do?

[dense walrus]

Sit somewhere in the middle of the blue and red box, block enemy pathing

[dense copper]

thanks

[worldly fern]

who should I pick? These are my best ops

[ancient sonnet]

That's a hard one

[dense walrus]

is it? there's not a single dp generator

[ancient lotus]

silverash is right there

[lament loom]

SA2 existing:

[frail thunder]

Me when sash uses s2

[dense walrus]

well why not use in synergy with ines

[wraith sentinel]

[abstract mauve]

[lament loom]

I was thinking Naran Mon3tr or Logos

[wraith shoal]

mlynar maybe too

[ancient lotus]

ines is most definitely not the pick here

[worldly fern]

once sash2 is e2 i wont need ines... so no

[lament loom]

Anyone got different ideas?

[abstract mauve]

not naran

[dense walrus]

i literally picked ines to have with sa2 don't tell me i made a mistake 💯

[ancient lotus]

mon3tr or mlyn tbh

[wraith sentinel]

I'm biased towards Mon3tr.

[ancient sonnet]

Ines if you want early deletion, Mon3tr if you help with healing and deleting hard things, Logos if you don't have Pram alt but you're kinda stacked on casters...

[reef sparrow]

gonna be mlynar pick

[wraith shoal]

mlynar, logos or mon3tr would be my guess

[proven kelp]

Ray is hottest there, clearly the correct answer

[lament loom]

Oh what about Ulpipi then.

[ancient current]

mlynar imo
not much physical damage in your roster atm. arts is fine with lappy, dp is fine with salter

[wraith shoal]

ines is amazing but using 2 vgs is maybe too much

[abstract mauve]

ulpi is kinda meh tbh unless you plan to just place him and gladiia every stage
anyway ulpi coming to gold cert soon enough

[lament loom]

Gotcha

[wraith shoal]

he doesnt need gladia to be good

[ancient lotus]

its just that you dont need to run a shit load of dp gen for most general content
ines is a solid choice of vanguard but so is sa2

[worldly fern]

thank you guys, i might pick logos or mlynar

[dense walrus]

but ulpanus has a combo move with sa2

[abstract mauve]

my ass is not using ulpianus in 2026

[wraith sentinel]

He's not in the Owned section.

[wraith shoal]

it's above those he sent. He only has necrass from the selector

[reef sparrow]

his only owned op is necrass

[wraith shoal]

which is hella useless btw

[dense walrus]

I use sa2 S3 and ines for dps and dp gen

[proven kelp]

My condolences

[wraith sentinel]

Overkill, but if it works.

[lament loom]

I just use SA2 or Ines

[ancient lotus]

sa2 S3 alone is more than enough

[wraith shoal]

how much dp do you even need atp

[dense walrus]

well i rather use ines than replace her with skalter

[ancient lotus]

if you really want more dp then better to run exu2 S3 than a second vanguard tbh

[ancient current]

I use chiave for dp and it works fine

[dense walrus]

Enough to put out 6 or 7 ops

[proven kelp]

I still use Flagpipe

[wraith sentinel]

I think you'll love Closure then.

[wraith shoal]

you know the stage doesnt throw all enemies at you at the start. You have plenty of time to put out everyone

[ancient sonnet]

Just put down Wisadel and you can skip the other 5

[ancient current]

not like ines is an invalid pick but she is objectively not the best option considering their roster
they would like more damage

[dense walrus]

that is exactly why i am using castled king

[abstract mauve]

if you want an actual answer ulpi is pretty good it's just that he plays a secondary role as compared to better dps units. also would rather just wait for gold cert on him later

[dense walrus]

at least until i have wang, then i can use sa2 s2

[abstract mauve]

you can use sa2 s2 even after wang

[proven kelp]

I don't see the correlation

[lament loom]

I mean yea, he does have utility of some sort in his kit.

[wraith sentinel]

-# The brainrot tightens its hold.

[dense walrus]

i actually do in stages with invis enemies

[abstract mauve]

ulpianus utility is his afk

[wraith shoal]

is mandragora a miniboss in IS5 or am i tripping?

[ancient current]

-# he has pulling

[lament loom]

I use his s3 more than his s2 😭

[proven kelp]

You guys still use him?

[abstract mauve]

s3 is his better skill ye and the stun is alright it's just that i got more usage from him afk

[ancient current]

well no, he's e0

[lament loom]

I see what u mean ya

[raven ermine]

Blasphemous

[abstract mauve]

there arent 12 better afk units in this game unfort

[vital kelp]

ok but theres better operator i can use if i dont go afk

[ancient current]

would still go mlynar

[vital kelp]

why would i use ulpianus if not for his afk ability

i could just use someone else

[dense walrus]

is mlynar considered afk unit since he himself AFKs

[ancient current]

that isn't what afk means

[proven kelp]

M3 better for afk anyway
Allow you power up your better afk units!

[vital kelp]

yeah i have monster s1m3

[lament loom]

Wait, is there AFK skills that is just better than using other skills on the specific op?

[frail thunder]

Prapraalter

[proven kelp]

Marcille

[lament loom]

Oooh I see

[vital kelp]

thorns

[lament loom]

Oh yeah Thorns is an obvious one

[abstract mauve]

astgenne2

[frail thunder]

He does have afk utility in having taunt

[vital kelp]

imagine if the current s3 become thorns s2, and he gets a new s3 that has 40 sp cycle 200k total dmg trust

[lament loom]

I forgot she existed even shes welfare on the recent event

[raven ermine]

haruka, tragodia, skadi2, eyja2 s1 is arguable here and there, fia, there's a lot

[abstract mauve]

i have her her maxed on my welfare account. e2 90 m6 mod3 on CN account and e2 60 m3 mod1 on my main

[lament loom]

Dedicated 😭

[abstract mauve]

she's one of my favorite units ye

[vital kelp]

why no e2 90 m9 mod3 on main wtf

[abstract mauve]

why no reason other than poor

[vital kelp]

:realmad:

[proven kelp]

Stop being poor

[frail thunder]

Clearly fake dedication

[ancient current]

quit blogging

[shadow bay]

[vital kelp]

mizuki s3 not useful even with is module?

[ancient current]

giga zzzzzzz

just use s2

haven't heard of a s3 usecase unless there's some specific map that wants it

[fathom gale]

s2 is generally the best to use. s3 i think has very very niche cases on specific maps

[vital kelp]

damn alright, thanks

[abstract mauve]

i've only heard people talk about it in context of more range on specific maps ye

[vital kelp]

say if i want to get angelica

how would i go about that without pulling or spending money or yellow certs

[odd sky]

you can't

[abstract mauve]

pray she gets added to a free voucher on anni?

[pallid basin]

Humble gift ot muted past, wich is harder

[wraith sentinel]

Is getting Blank Suicide Note after Useless Scissors entirely random? Or is there some sort of guarantee after a certain number of Encounter nodes.

[abstract mauve]

humble gift is harder by quite a bit

muted past can be tricky on emergency tho

it has one of the more diabolical normal mode -> emergency make overs

[pallid basin]

Then muted past?

[worldly estuary]

Humble gift is a bit harder to set up your operators, so I’d choose muted past

[abstract mauve]

muted past easier yee

muted past is raidian s2 hard carry

[worn drift]

who the best op for starting sq in IS5?

[vital kelp]

wisadel?

[worldly estuary]

Probably

[vital kelp]

is5 is wisadel's playground

[wraith shoal]

idk about that, havent had much problems with that stage, up to d10 at least

[pale tapir]

do you draft both walter and rosmimi in is5 if you can or do you just pick one
when doing flinger strat

[shadow bay]

mostly started with medicmiya, esp if ur not playing sniper medic or cant have e2 wisadel asap

[abstract mauve]

#is-station message this is d18 not yet released on EN

[abstract mauve]

the emergency mode can be annoying where as the normal mode is very easy

[worldly estuary]

If you’re doing lamp strat (in is5) wisadel should be able to carry

[wraith shoal]

yo what the fuck

[abstract mauve]

dw too much about it
but current emergency mode doesnt have the 3 rocket launcher tank guys

[vital kelp]

just wisadel it

with the is5 fordatel that gives ranged op camo

[abstract mauve]

bet

[wraith shoal]

hey, at least I'm shit so I'll stay away from d18 for quite some time

[vital kelp]

[worldly estuary]

I would say both are cancerous depending on how prepared are you before entering

[abstract mauve]

for me normal mode raidian almost solos. emergency mode she carries. it's a lil difference but ye

[wraith shoal]

is beyond mount and sea a floor 5 map?

[worldly estuary]

In those specific stages, Raidian s2 is better than s3?
I remember being bullied because I didn’t place summons first

[abstract mauve]

f6 map

[abstract mauve]

muted past runs raidian s2 ye

for a humble gift i run her s2 but i dont know if i'd recommend it cuz sometimes the clear is scuffed but it does alright

[wraith shoal]

isnt that 1 path? So you're forced to take that if you roll it?

[abstract mauve]

uhhh if you reach f6 enough you're forced to learn how to play it

if you get lucky you can save one of the reroll tongbaos for it

[wraith shoal]

I've seen some clips and it's nightmare fuel

up to how many ops can you send into the scroll in f6 bosky alone for ed4?

[abstract mauve]

#is-station message doubts allow you to send ops into scroll

[cloud storm]

Is the hunter subclass good?

[wraith shoal]

#salt-mines

[abstract mauve]

i should remind myself there's good reason why i have some people ignore added 🙏

[cloud storm]

Oh- was just gonna ask subsequently if it was good I maxed him out

[wraith shoal]

he is good but what if he wasnt?Why ask after you already raised him

[cloud storm]

I mean he looks cool so like..

[wraith shoal]

if you like his design it wouldnt really matter if he's good now would it

[cloud storm]

Well I like Nowells design but I know hes crap so I didnt max him out nor do I use him much now 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ So yeah, it would

[wraith shoal]

then you already knew that mlynar is good

[wraith shoal]

ray is good, that's it i think

[cloud storm]

? I just said that I liked his design. I only got him because like 2 people said he was good and others said I should get someone else

[wraith shoal]

nah he's worth it

[misty oxide]

In IS6 ,is there like difficulty in particular that Ling Leisure node appear? Or is it any difficulty,I couldn’t find the Ling node .

[vital kelp]

any diff

[raven ermine]

Ling node is random, it's not available every run, unless dlcs change that

[misty oxide]

Ok thanks, I replay like 20 times couldn’t find one

[woeful marsh]

i just did a solo run of stronghold protocol and now its on a 9 hour cooldown
is that normal 😭
i feel like i didnt read something

[wraith shoal]

when's optimal to rob shop in IS6 again? F3?

[abstract mauve]

did you leave many runs? did someone report you for trolling?

[woeful marsh]

ive only done a few games and they went fine
and its only solo thats on cooldown

[ancient sonnet]

It was a solo run so it shouldn't matter I guess

[abstract mauve]

oh. im not sure then

[ancient sonnet]

Where does it say you have to wait 9 more hours?

[raven ermine]

Usually f3 yes
Basically you try to rob the second shop, because there's a guaranteed item granting access to bosky in it
You do it on f3 if possible because f4/f5 stage can go very wrong

[woeful marsh]

literally just on the solo simulation button
theres just a timer on it

[shadow bay]

i feel like u asked that question like hours (or a day) ago

[wraith shoal]

is each floor stage different? I have e2 raidian and e1 exu2 rn at f1 so was thinking if i could rob now

[wraith shoal]

I did Uni fried my brain

[shadow bay]

rob stage should differ on f1-3 and f4 above... like past IS iterations

so thats why blud recommend u to rob atleast f3... f4 rob stages can be... uhmm... handy to deal with

[ancient sonnet]

I never had a cooldown of any sort there and I did go at severals stages in a row so that is what I'm asking

[raven ermine]

Issue with f1 rob is that you forfeit the extra bosky entry

[wraith shoal]

I've only robbed shop succesfully once in IS5, and I leaked half the ingot things so

[ancient current]

is5 shop rob is generally f5 anyway

[shadow bay]

is5 should be chill given mostly do lamp fliinger

[woeful marsh]

and the timer fixed after reloading the app
well thanks guys

[ancient current]

and letting wisadel dps cannot surely

[ivory solstice]

non-gameplay question but where do websites like arknights terra wiki get their operator descriptions from?

Pramanix Alter as an example:
Karlan Saintess Pramanix, leading her herd to new pastures.
She plays no flute nor commands a beckbeast, far from the "herder" the masses imagine.

It doesn't show up where I thought it would in game (operator tokens, operator files)

Anyone know?

[wraith shoal]

still dont understand why it's more optimal some times to rob early. Like shouldnt it be later=better always?

[abstract mauve]

i've heard people recommend f4 for better pathing to get the 2 aspd relics from wish fullfilled

[ancient current]

(i rob f6 anyway so im schizo)

[vital kelp]

whats in f7 other than amiya boss

[shadow bay]

theres a movement in is6 where u can rob later where u have mouthful of ingots...

coz is6 most cases have tendency for u to accumulate ingots for u to clear relics... and when u run out on buying prowess u rob him

[raven ermine]

Because if you're on an average/lowroll run, and you hit f5 rob, and you lowroll cannot rng, you explode

[shadow bay]

also robbing early also means closing shop on later floors

[wraith shoal]

there's cannot rng too? Man I thought robbing was more straightforward

[raven ermine]

And getting an early powerspike lead to better bosky too

[shadow bay]

its rouge lite ofc it has rng

[wraith shoal]

does robbing change with the ending you're going for or is it set? Like if I'm going for ed3, do I still rob in f3 or later on?

[raven ermine]

Just skillfully avoid the second one and you're fine

[abstract mauve]

is 3 and is4 has felt to me like you rob when you can get good relics and actual win the battle. is5 you rob to get the 2 aspd relics so it has to be f4+. f4 preferable since it frees up better pathing options later on and allows you to minimize rng from wishing lamp not hitting. is6 you rob any floor above 1 or even 1 if the shop is good enough. if going for an ending with f6 then preferable f6

[shadow bay]

robbing have nothing to do with endings...

ed mostly triggered by encounters and relics...

one instance u can relate to shop is... is4 shop selling u a relic to head to ed4

[coarse adder]

pretty sure it’s the description in the cert shop

[wraith shoal]

ok so since I'm going for ed3 I should rob f6 right?

[raven ermine]

If you don't, well, things can get messy very fast depending on which unit got the buff
For reference, in d15, 2 random shitters blew through a 15k hp 1.5k def summon in like 1.5-2s

[abstract mauve]

i havent played ed3 since dlc1 but for ed4 you rob f6 if you are able to since shop is guaranteed. i dont remember if ed3 has guaranteed shop as well

[wraith shoal]

can he grant immortality to himself?

[shadow bay]

robbing mostly boils down on how confident u can rob him

[raven ermine]

Cannot isn't really a unit, more like an entity on the map

[quartz imp]

i know one place that text appears is when you're viewing the operator from a selector ticket or the shop
not sure how it works for other operators though

[wraith shoal]

cool then, I'll see if I can manage a f3 rob

[raven ermine]

Use raidian s1 and everything will be fine

[abstract mauve]

shop rob is one of a small selection of is6 maps where raidian s1 is used and it's easily her best skill there

[wraith shoal]

other good units for it?

[abstract mauve]

raidian s1. that's it

[raven ermine]

Blockers mostly, even if you end up leaking the two dragons it's fine

[abstract mauve]

anything to help kill the enemies helps too

lessen the chance that you roll shit rng if there's less enemies on the map

[silver smelt]

leizi2
range is perfect for left lane

[humble river]

who is better to exchange for permits, thorns or reed alter ?

[abstract mauve]

just save the gold certs

[pale tapir]

do you have to pick one