help

[hardy pasture]

Zuole is alright.
You can’t just call 90% of this game 'mid'

[timber finch]

thought i had time to get to ch14 before wang but i might give up that idea lol

[coarse notch]

depends on the IS
generally the caster voucher is fucked so you pick a free op and move on

[rain forge]

you have 3 months

it’s very doable

[timber finch]

Yeah but most of them are event shop event and few days

[hardy pasture]

Logos is fine

[pale tapir]

what do you think "alright" means 😭

[wise cipher]

not sure if i got someone better for the spot

[fresh anvil]

alright buddy you’re decent

[slender temple]

Wait do I still get the last medals for clearing OS-S levels when it rerun, cuz I missed the chance to do so

[timber finch]

feel like 2weeks in total so far, might be wrong ill see ig..

[limber pecan]

both elemental effects stack separately, so its just a race to who gets the first proc, just about every good caster rn does elemental dmg

[spare tide]

How long it takes until Pramalter Domain expansion reach the top left blue box?

[urban sleet]

Its fine to draft him, admitted he isnt good in IS but you are very likely playing low diff

Tho yeah caster ticket kinda cooked after pram2 its truly logos, or hool if is6

[hardy pasture]

At least that sounds better then Mid.
He is at least in the upper half of operators. Maybe even the upper third.

[fresh anvil]

you have pran module?

[rain forge]

It won’t

I’ve tested it

[wise cipher]

oh not for IS, sorry for the confusion, i just wrote "is" like that to highlight the cadence of how i would say the sentence (i know its weird)

[coarse notch]

ah, logos

[spare tide]

Wait isn't it 20x20 tiles?

[wise cipher]

in a bit i will

[urban sleet]

bruh yea logos still good for gen content

[rain forge]

20 tiles total iirc

[spare tide]

Oooooh now i get it.

It makes much more sense

[wise cipher]

okay, so still logos, despite the tragodia being there, got it

[lunar apex]

20×20 would be RA map 😭

[pallid basin]

wich facility do i need to upgrade to get control center lvl 5?? im consufed

[rain forge]

Just place them in different parts of the map

[urban sleet]

What does it say when you try to upgrade a facility

[wise cipher]

tragodia cares not about things like "where hes placed"

[pallid basin]

idk

[fresh anvil]

en players as usual

using the word is
is-6 (sidestory)
is6 (integrated strategies)

[sacred flume]

Anything that's not the 6 on the right most side

[slender temple]

You need ×10 level 3 facilities, can be anything

Basically upgrade the entire left side and one dorm, then downgrade the dorm later

[sturdy jewel]

Who should I build next

[fresh anvil]

upgrade left side dont upgrade right side anymore

[hardy pasture]

Logos without Necrosis is still better than most if not all of the rest of the Casters.

[spark sage]

Is this team good?

[fresh anvil]

if you lack power downgrade dorms

[coarse notch]

logos module

[slender temple]

Build your Ulpi and Trag

[fresh anvil]

good!

[shy lake]

Should I remove 4 star kroos and replace her with gladiia?

[slender temple]

There's no 4* Kroos, and no don't build Gladiia

[wise cipher]

fair enough
should i get his Y module in that case?

[fresh anvil]

do you have the following operators

conviction (4 star april fools unit)
purestream (4 star medic)
i recommend

[shy lake]

Mb I meant the 3 star one

[pallid basin]

sk 3 recommended for construction? or sk5 for lvl 3 facilities

[hardy pasture]

You can but not really necessary

[candid badger]

sk 5 all the way

[slender temple]

SK5 always, unless you need lvl2 blocks more

[coarse notch]

no

[hardy pasture]

Btw does freeze actually reduce res?

[slender temple]

May I see your sqaud and who you have briefly? Still won't recommend building Gladiia

[native cargo]

is surfer worth raising

[radiant vapor]

i dont see it in pin, which Skill should i M3 pramanix alter

[hardy pasture]

Or have vuln?
I remember there being a type of Dmg effect.

[urban sleet]

S2>S3

[candid quiver]

Um… so one thing… does it matter about who I prioritize to level up or not I was just gonna split the tickets I have between my team to equally level up all of them

[vale dock]

S2 > S3

[wise cipher]

does freeze duration scale with the duration of the applied cold?

[slender temple]

Generally trying to E1 lvl40 everyone that is notable, after that you go all the way into your carry operator up to E2

[candid quiver]

Silverash?

[slender temple]

You have any better 6* options? If no then yes him

[wraith sentinel]

It's equal to the duration of the second stack of Cold I believe

[candid quiver]

Only others I got is um mudrock and ulpianus
Silverash is also uhhh alter im think ya

[urban sleet]

I would say ulpianjs is the carry for your account

[wise cipher]

ulpianus is great

[candid quiver]

Ok thanks lots

[urban sleet]

Oh wow its the alter 🥀 yeah thats no carry

[candid quiver]

It no good?

[slender temple]

You have unused 6* free selector right, you can still pick SA

[wise cipher]

i mean if its SA alter that means you also got crazy ulpianus synergy

[urban sleet]

Hes good but not what you would call a carry

[wise cipher]

silverash alter together with ulpianus can do some funny damage in a pinch

[slender temple]

His main thing is not doing dmg but he's up there as the best vanguard there is

[urban sleet]

I hope thjs does not involve deploying and retreating ulpianus

[hardy pasture]

Best Vanguard

[formal shadow]

it's the funny s3 meme thing I'm guessing

[urban sleet]

This is actually with s2, apparently the real s3 combp is rare

[formal shadow]

yeah I mean ulpi s3 + salter s2

[wise cipher]

erm
well
it does
or just deploying in general
if you do s2 with SA alter, get the stacks onto ulpianus, then deploy him and VERY quickly use ulpianus skill 3, the silverash slashes will do REALLY high damage

[urban sleet]

As long as its not deplpying amd retreating him like adepti was into

[candid quiver]

I got saria from that

[slender temple]

Oh, that's... that's unfortunate

[candid quiver]

[urban sleet]

Okay thats fine phew
There are some schizo people who manually retreat ulpiamus and deploy him for the slash

[slender temple]

At least you didn't pick the worse choice

[urban sleet]

As long as you didnt picl bagpipe

[wise cipher]

you dont have to do that, to be clear
i use both and rarely do it
but its great to keep in mind, if you ever need to just delete some enemies in a stage

[candid quiver]

I got something it can promote 5 star operator to E2 who I use on? Lappland, spectre or silence

[heavy ember]

Is silence worth s2m3 or mod3

[slender temple]

Specter

[candid quiver]

Okay

[urban sleet]

bro actually does the schizo manual retreat combo

[thick token]

when is eyja2 gonna be obtainable again?? i'm sick of not having a good ele medic

[gloomy sundial]

I would just note for newbies that you need ulpianus skill 3 fully mastered for the extra starting sp or it doesn't line up

[wise cipher]

oh right didnt consider that, my bad

[slender temple]

I would never mentioned that combo, especially for a clueless newbie if I were you it's just a flashy move and nothing more

[heavy ember]

Should I just keep her at e2lvl30 no mod s7

[candid quiver]

Ha?

[hardy pasture]

I don’t even have a bad elem medic. I just have none

[urban sleet]

Spark shop in summer limited

That said ele dmg has not reached dangerous levels yet, you can do fine without one

[wise cipher]

perhaps, just wanted to make clear that they have a cool synergy, so its nice to have them both raised

[thick token]

yeah but i'd like to auto this new anni....lol

[urban sleet]

That one doesnt need an elemental medic at all

[thick token]

isnt it full of things that give you NI

[urban sleet]

No just one lqne
And its just stun
Well okay stun and some dmg but its very manageable

[wise cipher]

if the problem cant be solved with regular healing, then it probably can be solved by dealing a lot of damage
and if it still cant be solved
i just watch my units suffer until it works 🙂

[slender temple]

Keep that one later, you wouldn't want to waste your module blocks which is a hard to come by resources on a 5*

[candid quiver]

Okay

[thick token]

just hypothetically....which berry is better, honey or mul

[urban sleet]

honey heals ele dmg better than mul but her actual healing sucks

[thick token]

so in terms of actual healing mul wins??

[slender temple]

Yeah that's what he said

[urban sleet]

I would rather use neither but yeah

[thick token]

aight....good to know

[next kelp]

Guy, Since event is already ending, what Stage do you guys recommend to clear when I just want to empty my sanity and goes to sleep?

[nimble kite]

1-7.

[wraith sentinel]

If they're open Purchase Certificates (the red ones). You'll always find a use for them.

[mild yacht]

Do your anni.

[nimble kite]

It's closed now. 🥀

[gloomy sundial]

Harold the welfare wandering medic will be in record restoration next month iirc

[hardy pasture]

I usually use beanstalk summon for ranged elemental damage but unfortunately in this Annihilation it only targets high ground.

But I used Narantuya to tank it and it still worked.

[next kelp]

By the way, can I ask why though? I was a bit curious

[nimble kite]

Orirock is a VERY VERY demanding mat for many many ops.
You want that in high amounts.

[slender temple]

1-7, AP-5, the last skill books stage ig

[neon siren]

Is lumen worth leveling up if you don't have any good elemental heals or even a healer other than haruka?

[wise cipher]

oh this anni has elem damage?
well, im about to play it
time for pain 🙂

[slender temple]

He doesn't heal elemental and no

[neon siren]

Ohkay alr

[next kelp]

Okay

[nimble kite]

In case you wondering why not 10-6 for Blue tier directly for example...

You miss the opportunity of sidedrops, which is better in 1-7. Plus, same sidedrops will happen in Workshop while crafting those to Blue tier or higher.

[hardy pasture]

It’s just the top and they only come two at a time.

I imagine if you have like Ray whose skill recharges really fast you can just keep killing them.

[wise cipher]

im just gonna throw cats and texasalters at them

[slender temple]

So the cat & worse version of the cat

[hardy pasture]

I did it the second try without looking at guides.

But appearently Pramanix with an elemental healer just solves 90% of the stage.

[wise cipher]

not sure if im unprepared for anything big with this

[pallid basin]

skill 1 or 2 with raidian e1 when doing ending 1 (is6), i have exu alt and tragodia e2 , and a fast deploying unit

[hardy pasture]

Idk if your Tragodia there will survive.

[wise cipher]

might throw down a mlynar there just to tank

[heavy ember]

Should I lvl reignfrodt to e2lvl80

[slender temple]

No, and why exactly lvl80

[wise cipher]

lv60 suffices

[heavy ember]

Cause lvl80 look nice

[wise cipher]

he doesnt really need the stats from more levels

[slender temple]

Okay that's unheard of I'll give ya that

[timber finch]

e280 looks nice only on a 5*

[wise cipher]

i mean i level my units to lv90 cause its satisfying, but only when everyone got all their other upgrades and is otherwise done

[warm shuttle]

do you lose a top op tag if you don't select it for a slot?

[heavy ember]

Most lvl80 unit of mine is either strong or is used frequently, like sakiko monster logos typhoon ..

[timber finch]

if i understand well, very yes

[slender temple]

Why didn't you select the tag when it's there

[heavy ember]

Some are lvl60 just to unlock the mod

And those who I don't care are either lvl 30 or is e1 max

[warm shuttle]

I didn't do anything yet
That's why I asked first

[timber finch]

always take top/senior op please

[heavy ember]

Though the lvl30 is pretty rare

[slender temple]

Oh mb, yeah you should always select top op tag when one's up it's pretty rare

[wise cipher]

If you got a lot of resources, allocate them as you like, but sa2 is someone who doesnt do that much with extra levels

[limpid galleon]

welp i thought i was strong enough to do the extream dif for IS aka the different ending and i was surley wrong because dang is it hard hard

[timber finch]

sa2 really only care of e2 and sl7 yeah

[heavy ember]

And the best of the best get to go to 90

[slender temple]

Going for extra level above 60 isn't usually recommend cuz the investment to benefits ratio is worse or outright horrible, unless it's Tragodia

[heavy ember]

Current that's surtr, skalter, ling, wis, the 2 limited executer and nearlter

[timber finch]

Trag, elemental dealer in general and at very stretch liberators (since heavy atk scale, but very far stretch)

[heavy ember]

I hate the fact that he need to be lvl83

[timber finch]

82mod3 or 88mod2 not 83

[heavy ember]

Or was it 87

[timber finch]

just 90 him and stop braining
hes fine enough

[heavy ember]

Anyway the fact that it's not an even number make me hate it

[slender temple]

I just outright lvl90 him cuz the number's shit

(don't do that)

[timber finch]

82 to 90 is 200k waste btw if efficient

but really.

[hardy pasture]

Does it counter a specific res?

[heavy ember]

And I don't know if I want to 90 him, that stuff is expensive af

[hardy pasture]

What breakpoint is that

[heavy ember]

It's basically true dmg

[slender temple]

Generally you don't lvl90 anyone ever, just be more responsible with your spending. Unless you're rich

[timber finch]

its breakpoint for 1 cat burst on boss

[heavy ember]

What if I just ignore bosses

[hardy pasture]

But doesn’t res reduce bar break efficiency?
Not for him?

[timber finch]

it does, thats why he need so much levels for atk to scale higher

[hardy pasture]

Oh ok

[heavy ember]

He's a ritualist, he deal ele dmg base on ATK, other deal based on dmg dealt

[twilit swallow]

What is the condition for ending 3 i take the top choice and what?

[heavy ember]

Res doesn't affect him

[iron wigeon]

Take caerula it gives good buffs

[heavy ember]

Can 1 cat at mod3 m3 lvl60 proc ele burst on elite enemy?

[buoyant sigil]

The top one is an ending item though

[hardy pasture]

Definitely can?
I remember only bosses having the 2000 elemental bar

[iron wigeon]

The 2nd also has a different ending they should get it

[timber finch]

elite yes boss no
should be normal/elite and boss iirc

[buoyant sigil]

Guess it’s a matter of ed3/4. they’re probably prepared for a specific one, though.

[twilit swallow]

3

[heavy ember]

Then I'll just use 2 cats on bosses then, I'm not gonna lvl him to 82

[iron wigeon]

Iirc, ed 3 is the skadi alter thing boss?

[buoyant sigil]

Wiki has this. Haven’t done this one yet though.

[twilit swallow]

The second event is random or have specific trigger conditions

[pseudo flume]

Is the spoiler necessary?

Anyhow both are ending items anyway

[buoyant sigil]

I’m unsure, though it should definitely be in an encounter node by 5F or so

[hidden wolf]

How hard is the new annihilation

[pseudo flume]

For me it was pretty easy

[buoyant sigil]

I don’t think it has specific trigger conditions though
Just go into any encounter nodes you can find by 5F

[severe crypt]

Annihilations are all light work 🥱

[pseudo flume]

The newer ones that is

[twilit swallow]

Only appear in floor 5?

[severe crypt]

I mean even older ones are light work with a built team

[pseudo flume]

I miss the old tradition of putting bosses in Annihilation

[wanton meadow]

In a case like this, i should just farm skill books whenever the stage is open yea?

[iron wigeon]

Can the sakiko girl hit air enemies?

[buoyant sigil]

Unsure. Sorry, I haven’t done the ending. But probably not

[pseudo flume]

Yes

[buoyant sigil]

Yes, as all other Lord guards.
Generally, when a kit says “Ranged attack” it means it can hit air as well

[iron wigeon]

Thx astrelll

[pseudo flume]

Kotkai its a lord guard that's what they are supposed to do

[severe crypt]

Oh wtf kotkai is here

[pseudo flume]

He's been here since earlier

I feel shit atm so pardon if my mood is abit snappy

[pseudo flume]

Preferably farm red certs on downtime

Skill books ain't too bad though tbh

[severe crypt]

Red certs not open today

[wanton meadow]

Iirc I have about 1.7-1.8k red certs saved, that should be enough for some time yea?

[pseudo flume]

That's definitely enough for while ngl

[glass mural]

alrighty, so in the name of further IS optimization, I can A. Stop slacking on Sash's E2 first... When I get out of poverty again, or B. Raise Hool and nab her IS module.

There's also C: flip a coin and go with my gut. But details details.

[pseudo flume]

A

Ho'ol does nothing

Her IS Module doesn't make her a priority draft over other options

[wanton meadow]

Nvm i had a dyslexic moment, it's 2.8k red certs lmao

The anni practice maps are giving a lot

[glass mural]

:nodnod:

Anyways, regardless, hello poverty again. I miss having lmd

[pallid basin]

What is ulpianus used for

[crude monolith]

hi. masteries and modules recomendations for these operators?

[wanton meadow]

Laneholding

[pseudo flume]

Laneholding

[pseudo flume]

Pram2 Mod1, Ceobe Really Dry Bread lvl3, Poze Modx3 if you use her that is

[glass mural]

S2 - easily one of the best afk landholders for something like, killing 400 enemies in one map. S3 - the thing you'll actually actively use a lot of the time outside annihilqtion to lanehold.

[wanton meadow]

I'm glad i have some afk tools now, tackling all of the anni practice maps would've been mindnumbing without them

[pseudo flume]

Its much more relaxing even if they aren't the best one for the map

The new map seems to favor Pram2, Logos and Eyjaberry

[wanton meadow]

Honestly the new map is like 4op afkable

[hidden nacelle]

is mujica fever capped at 100 or what number for full

[wanton meadow]

Vg+pram2+insert laneholder that doesn't need medic+thorns

[pseudo flume]

https://youtu.be/jIgqbrUDt0w

[pseudo flume]

450

[wanton meadow]

Different 4op afk but same result

Pram2 burnslop is way too fun

[glass mural]

Note to self, put Sash S1 into that team already.

[grim forum]

what's the best way to get exp for your operators besides events

[hidden nacelle]

like level them up? IS and RA

[runic willow]

Build your base ops

[drifting prairie]

💸

[wanton meadow]

Your base is your main source of xp and lmd

[rain forge]

easy annihilation number 1929312391392

[grim forum]

What about using sanity to play xp stages

[hidden nacelle]

no

[rain forge]

dogshit value

[severe crypt]

Time to build that base

[grim forum]

wow so just wait for the base?

[glass mural]

2/10 on difficulty. Literally just put in two solid damage dealers, a healer, and you're probably golden.

[runic willow]

Say you do use sanity, now you don't have originate prime / materials instead

[pseudo flume]

That's basically just burning money

[grim forum]

the drones are my bottleneck so I can't

maybe I should've went 6 power plants initially and then downgrade later

[hidden nacelle]

there is no get rich quick

[wanton meadow]

You can spend all your natural sanity gain for the day and barely not reach the numbers you can produce for free from a well built base

[hidden nacelle]

what the fuck is 6 power plant

[pseudo flume]

What?

[rain forge]

with enough 💳 you can get anything quickly

[pseudo flume]

Well that's something new for this year

[fickle anvil]

im farming hella red certs from these annihilations simulations, i am in need of a good wandering medic and pulled a mulberry recently, should i just use my pot 1 mulberry or aim to pot 6 honeyberry eventually?

sitting at 1800ish red certs

[grim forum]

so what do I spend my sanity on like in general

what stages are worth it and which isn't

[hidden nacelle]

you might be the first person in history of arknight to think of 6 power plant

[severe crypt]

Isn’t there a hard limit for power plants anyway

[wanton meadow]

Farm events if open > farm materials you need > clear story for OP

[hidden nacelle]

do story if youre new and sidestory too

[pseudo flume]

1-7, Red Cert Stages, Clearing Main Stages, Getting from First Clears

[grim forum]

Surely not this is a very logical conclusion

[drifting prairie]

my base is so underoptimized

[runic willow]

Event > main story / side story
Skill books / red cert / base blocks if needed

[fickle anvil]

why are people so hot to farm 1-7? Genuine question

[severe crypt]

[grim forum]

I have so many originite primes from the first clear stages lol

maybe that's because I'm early game

[hidden nacelle]

highest material per sanity value

[raven ermine]

Royal tokens are rotating with kalter, so if you didn't buy those yet, i would keep farming certs

[fickle anvil]

thank you

[runic willow]

They get eaten whenever a good banner comes or skins you like

[grim forum]

I loved the retracing our steps event sadly the new one doesn't look as good

[pseudo flume]

You are the 13th person

[grim forum]

13th reason why

[glass mural]

Organization 13?

[pseudo flume]

Majority that said 6 Power plants was from 6 years ago

[slender temple]

Would it be logical if I build Typhon just for the afk alone

[pseudo flume]

I mean that's her best skill

[hidden nacelle]

i dont think typhon sees much use anywehre else so i gues sso

[mental gull]

Guys.. which operator/s should I build and add for my main team? my main ops are the hearted ones and I wonder which other ops would be good to add in it.

[drifting prairie]

if you have the resources sure

[hidden nacelle]

im going to pretend i know which ops are your main ops and which ops you have to rpelace them

[fickle anvil]

post em

[grim forum]

it's a reference to 12 reasons why, a show

12 reasons are all reasons that lead to bad actions let's just say

[runic willow]

What was the sanity cost for 4 red cert royal tokens? Iirc it was a fat amount

[wanton meadow]

Hmm, that's a point of consideration for sure, I'll start chipping away on the skill books after royal tokens then (the amount of books i need atm is so high)

[mental gull]

I FORGOT TO ADD.. my krooster is in my hio

[hidden nacelle]

pretending didnt work @mental gull i sitll dont know what ops you have

[raven ermine]

look at their bio

[mental gull]

MY KROOSTER IS IN MY BIO

[pseudo flume]

Finish your masteries

[runic willow]

Link in bio moment

[pseudo flume]

Why is the masteries all over the place with barely anything with M3

[fickle anvil]

gummy kroos alter gracebearer and blue poison might be good to look at

i see very little ranged dps built on ur acc, at a glance

[pseudo flume]

Mod1 Pram2, Mod2 Surtr

[raven ermine]

Erm
gl with that, we've all been there, i assume RA has been cleaned ? even the "base defense" part ?

[mental gull]

Would zuo le be a good additiin ti my main team?

[runic willow]

Ok isn't that a little logical, you wanna evenly upgrade your ops so one could come to that conclusion

[formal shadow]

[dense walrus]

how come some of the annihilation give straight up 1k orundum?

[wanton meadow]

I cleared the shop, not sure what you mean by base defense

[raven ermine]

Is that pink thingy called "link in their bio" or what ?

[glass mural]

They have Logos and Pramalter, speaking of which. Put further investment into Pramalter.

[mental gull]

yeah my pram 2 has mod.. I didn't update it yet.. should I make it mod 3?

[dense walrus]

i can't find anymore I'm pretty sure i did one when the 400th kill gave me 1k

[jovial urchin]

What the hell is that image doing here

[pseudo flume]

Not that necessary unless you wanna replace Kal'sit

[hidden nacelle]

first clear rewards

[drifting prairie]

yeah focus on pramalter

[slender temple]

Chanel rule4

[runic willow]

There are two types of annihilation stages, one is weekly the other one time

Could be why maybe

[raven ermine]

That

[pseudo flume]

Should be fine as Mod2

[wanton meadow]

Oh, not yet

[dense walrus]

what does specially open mean

[raven ermine]

It's like 70ish blue books iirc

[jovial urchin]

Opens for all days

[mental gull]

tht should be the point hwere her freeze takes 5 secs to activate huh

[pseudo flume]

What defence? :Clueless:
All I did was do 1 Platform

[wanton meadow]

Nice, that's quite a lot

[glass mural]

I'd honestly nab Amiya skill level 7 at some point.

[fickle anvil]

does anyone have any input on this

[glass mural]

You've already gotten to E2 80.

Might as well take the next couple cheap steps to skill level 7 at least.

[pseudo flume]

Tbh she's fine at Mod1 while Mod2 - 3 is just QoL

[jovial urchin]

1 is enough, you have mulberry already, no need to buy honeyberry anymore

[dense walrus]

wait so per 3 weeks only 1 annihilation is open for those who have them all completed?

[raven ermine]

Don't buy the 5* in the shop^
You don't need a wandering medic
You need p6 even less
Each pot would be around 900 sanity per, ts is wasteful af

[fickle anvil]

OK thanks, what do i do with the red certs then? kidna wanna build hadiya or philae maybe

[pseudo flume]

All are unlocked during the switching of the Rotating Annihilation

[raven ermine]

Buy monthly modblocks and catalysts
And one copy of quartz for base

[glass mural]

The best voucher unit is Ethan, easily.

[fickle anvil]

ive built caper and akkord already lmao, pot 1 ethan

[jovial urchin]

Contrail is also kinda cool

[fickle anvil]

thanks mayu

[dense walrus]

I've done like 5 so far and it still says 400/1700 something

which one counts im actually braindead

[raven ermine]

Well, click on the missions and you'll know what you have to do

[pseudo flume]

That requires completing the 3 Perma and current Rotating Annihilation

[jovial urchin]

The 3 main annihilations and the rotating site

[dense walrus]

i click and it's the downtown one which i got at 398/400 🔥

[pseudo flume]

Back to the mines you go

[dense walrus]

im not doing that shit till wang is here

[jovial urchin]

🥀

[fickle anvil]

🤝

[pseudo flume]

I did mine with just a borrow and no E2 ops other than Myrtle 🥀

[jovial urchin]

Yeah fortunately this thing does not contribute to your weekly cap limit

[worn vector]

Which one is Gavial the Invincible's best module? X or Y?

[fickle anvil]

yee im just getting as many pulls and red certs as i can rn

[dense walrus]

i was referring to this one

[astral thorn]

Is prana alter module worth getting

[undone portal]

lv1 for the dmg

[jovial urchin]

Just borrow Typhon or Wisadel or sum

[raven ermine]

Mody

[median fable]

her mods are so shit we didn't even bother running an accurate comparison 🥹

[astral thorn]

Thx

https://krooster.com/u/humor-white-blaze-31oc this is my kroo. Should I get silverashes module

[median fable]

mod2 a must, mod3 good but you can do it later if you have other modules to do first

[pseudo flume]

Its fairly simple in this day and age

[dense walrus]

i do and then the invisibles fick me

[little lily]

do i have to upgrade each operator skills independently

[undone portal]

mod y gives gavialt better survivability and turns her into phys dmg support, more notable than the flat dps numbers x gives

[astral thorn]

Thx should I get regular silvers module with that kroo?

[pseudo flume]

Whatever happened to her being fine with mod1?

[slender temple]

Only for the mastery yes

[worn vector]

Thank you!

[mental gull]

zuo le is valued more than kal tsit? why?

[rain forge]

pretty sure a pram2 here solves the top 2 rows

[raven ermine]

People realized the second module is nowhere to be seen, likely for at least a year, and mod2 is good for snow gen

[astral thorn]

Also what skills shpuld i master for pralt

[little lily]

awesome i am nowhere near mastery i was just hesitant on upgrading skills because i did not know which one to invest in but thank you i am at like 5-4 with no skills leveled

[jovial urchin]

Get a tank or 2 smh. Also you can use Fast redeploys to bait the invis caster or as a decoy

[median fable]

yeah, and pls stop leveling over e2 lv60

[pseudo flume]

Because Kal'sit is a selfish hag that doesn't heal critically injured ops and takes up 2 deployment limit

[astral thorn]

Lol sorry

[lyric lagoon]

you could also just place her in the middle and not have weird ass placements

[slender temple]

Um for lvl 1-7 it applies to every skill the operators has, so upgrade them asap

[median fable]

since when did we ever recommend stopping at mod1?

[pseudo flume]

6 months ago

[median fable]

s2m3 for pram2

[astral thorn]

Skill 2 mastery 3?

[pseudo flume]

I asked a few times btw

[little lily]

okay thank you very much maybe they will make my life easier

[astral thorn]

Thx

[jovial urchin]

It's always good to stay updated

[raven ermine]

I've always been a mod3 pram2 apologist, but i've indeed seen a lot of mod1 thrown around

[worn vector]

Should I level up the mastery to 3? Is it recommended? or not urgent?

[jovial urchin]

Nah bro

[pseudo flume]

Yeah that's what I've been seeing

[median fable]

s3 is also a really good m3 contender but seeing your situation it seems you're too poor

[raven ermine]

Depend on what you have to do

[pseudo flume]

Wao poverty shaming 🥀

[slender temple]

So Typhon S2M3 ModY3?

[median fable]

I've wrote a bit on the reasons for her mod2 recommendation.
Tldr: s2 has small range, stacking snow faster means enemies will remain more time in her range so more dmg

[astral thorn]

What lvl for sash module?

Thx any other units I should module?

[pseudo flume]

Fair enough

[median fable]

if you're doing afk slop s2 mod0 also works fine enough 🥹
jokes aside mody 3 seems too much

[pseudo flume]

Mody1 is enough

[raven ermine]

Even mod3 is good imo
The unit not doing a lot until warm up is done benefits very well from having snow tiles generated instantly

[pale tapir]

warm up more like cool down

[glass mural]

Has anyone told you Logos yet?

[median fable]

you could stop at mody lv2 honestly

[wanton meadow]

snow damage kinda just destroys trash mobs by itself so having the spread be faster actually makes things quite convenient

[raven ermine]

Well the damage is very low don't get me wrong

[astral thorn]

Haven't gotten to stage 14

[plain jackal]

Which skill is better?

[turbid ocean]

Logos better mod is 11-6

[glass mural]

Completely understandable, have a nice day.

[median fable]

talent two proccing 2 times instead of 1 is the bulk of the mod gains and spending so much for an afk unit is not advisable

[wanton meadow]

It's surprisingly often enough for trash mobs actually

[pseudo flume]

It helps with the slow at least

[iron wigeon]

Hey guys i have a question

[glass mural]

Ask and thou shalt receive.

[ancient current]

s2 honestly
I've seen some angle for s1 but the unit herself is terrible so use whichever skill feels more convenient for the situation

just use Akkord icl

[iron wigeon]

What are the operators that has a good offensive recovery and goes well with archetto IS mod?

[median fable]

yeah, I just put it under "good" since you'd rather get other higher prio mod first imo but I still recommend for her mod3

[pseudo flume]

I honestly don't regret skipping Pram2 since I'm at the point where she is just a side thing

[raven ermine]

why side thing when best caster 😔

[pale tapir]

sakichan, mon3tr for starters

[rain forge]

saki-chan, mon3, maybe hoshi2, lemuen s1 is a very copium pick

[glass mural]

Sakiko and Mon3tr.

[median fable]

best caster is reedic 👴

[raven ermine]

lemuen is not copium lol

[pseudo flume]

I have enough options that are relevant for now

[rain forge]

wasnt s1 kinda copium for cheeto or am i wrong

[astral thorn]

Sorry I didnt mean to come off as rude

[plain jackal]

I'm only gonna use her in IS and single use skills are better there because of a variety of relics so if it's kind of on the fence I usually tend to gravitate towards skill 1

[iron wigeon]

So the popular picks are sakiko and mon3tr anyone else?

[median fable]

I cast pram2 blessing 🪄

[raven ermine]

#help message

[ancient current]

well, are you planning to m3 any of them?

[pseudo flume]

It doesn't help that my monhun dreams are temporarily crushed 🚬

[rain forge]

atleast the mlp dreams have risen

[median fable]

medals are there, it will be added one day

[plain jackal]

Yes, that's why I'm asking which one is better, so I can train it

[ancient current]

lemme check something

[raven ermine]

surely, right 🥹

[pseudo flume]

ReChord if JJ is mistaken and jinxed it like Destiny 2 please put him on a chopping block

[iron wigeon]

Is this about monster hunter?

[ancient current]

got it

[raven ermine]

why 400 for kalter rechord ?

[obtuse obsidian]

sparking rosmo and spalter clearly

[iron wigeon]

Probs sparking 2 units

[ancient current]

I can't lie, even if you're down to use s1 its masteries are straight ass. if you want to m3 a skill, do s2
also module is shit so I can't see the angle for it either

I think mine is s2m3 mod1, want to try her out?

[ancient current]

p6

or i quit the game

[pseudo flume]

That sounds like what I'd do

[wraith shoal]

400 for pot6 is kinda overkill

[plain jackal]

I'll do S2 then

[obtuse obsidian]

Astrel lets not cope spalter here

[pseudo flume]

She's my waifu op smh

[glass mural]

||Hello, this is tots Nate from the future. JJ mistaken, feel free to crucify him, also the adamant stream flows ever onwards.||

Honestly, I should maybe consider following in Rechord's footsteps.

Not the quiting the game part, just the saving for months and months to really really make sure I get a unit part.

[pale tapir]

I went 320 for pot3 exia and 210 for pot3 pramerita
400 is honestly not enough

[ancient current]

I've had kinda bad luck trying to max pot mon3ter, so 400 seemed like a reasonable angle
but idk if 300 can suffice

[pseudo flume]

Nah we had cases of 600 pulls but no pot6

[raven ermine]

I went 300 for p1 sash2 i don't wanna jinx it, but be warned
Got p6 pram tho ig

[glass mural]

I've heard the gacha horror stories.

[ancient current]

anyways, let's not derail here

[pseudo flume]

Wasn't it Sciel or Storn that failed getting pot6 Wis'adel

[ancient current]

Sciel got 0 wisadel after 311 pulls

[glass mural]

... I'm not feeling very convinced that my paranoia of only 3 months of saving possibly fucking me over is unwarranted.

[ancient current]

well, that's as bad as luck can get
it's good to foresee the worst but not the absolute doomsday of worst

[raven ermine]

If it's making you feel better, you only lose the 300 streak 3.5% of the time

[obtuse obsidian]

Thats less rare then first pull 6 star

[wraith shoal]

that chance feels way bigger than it seems

[rain forge]

statistically it was lucky to not get wis within 300 pulls

[undone portal]

master s3 if youre gonna use her, but gavialt raise in general isnt really urgent

[raven ermine]

Didn't stop me from missing three times

[polar hollow]

hi do these ever go away

[rain forge]

iirc no

just think of them as trophies

[obtuse obsidian]

I coped gavial s3 VS ed4 boss in is6 but The boss died to qb before he reach gavial

[lyric lagoon]

290 recruit permits

[pseudo flume]

ReChord channel your inner Space and get Kal pot6 in 120 pulls like he did with Zuo Le pot5

[wraith shoal]

you're stuck with ursus memorabilia now

[undone portal]

historically important items :nodders:

[rain forge]

500 pulls what is he saving for

[worn vector]

Okayy, thank you so much!

[pseudo flume]

Why not use the 6star M3 ticket

[hidden wolf]

Who do i mod next

[pseudo flume]

Pram2

[tardy urchin]

pram2

[wraith shoal]

are the modded ones mod3?

[wraith sentinel]

Not like you have many options.

[hidden wolf]

Only logos

[rain forge]

scratch that wisadel mod3 prio

get her mod3 asap

[pseudo flume]

Mod3 the others

[obtuse obsidian]

Techincally silver ash module is huge for him but..... Do you even use that thing with those ops lol

[pale tapir]

wis mod3 then sakichan mod2 (3 ideally)

[rain forge]

wis mod3 > saki mod2 > logos mod3

sakiko also wants mod3 but she's fine at mod2 if short on mats

[pseudo flume]

Bro got relegated to thing 🥹

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey i used him in my last is6 run!! (it was monthly run)

[astral thorn]

Are there other n mods should get?

[dark mirage]

Why tf does base silver ash look like that, get that guy a burger

Looks like he hasn’t eaten in a decade

[pseudo flume]

Surtr Mod2, Ulpianus Mod1, Saria Lvl1 Star Award

[limpid yarrow]

sash for that IS5 relevance mmm

[rain forge]

it went to pram's tail floof

[wraith shoal]

it's the ozempic craze of recent times

[limpid yarrow]

they got my goat on the wegovy

[raven ermine]

I would definitely still mod3 sash in that account

[pseudo flume]

Also Mod3 IS mods for Kal'sit and Ros

[astral thorn]

Dont have any if those units

[rain forge]

kal and ros are low prio for you rn unless you want to regularly do IS

[scenic yoke]

I didn't notice hoshi alt getting a module how important is it for her? And is there a way to figure out when a specific skin will come back for example ascalons skill

[rain forge]

astrel you got the wrong guy

[undone portal]

is the atk increase/silence duration on ho'olheyak is mod not restricted to is? its listed before the is-specific stuff

[pseudo flume]

Mod3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1403122199514185798/1450297943746678825/Hermitzplanner.gif?ex=69f9eff7&is=69f89e77&hm=e561cd997e71ea4955b38320d06f5ebd2ac7d1b4ff057d3354f74d23fbb1bc53&

[raven ermine]

It's a good module, for a good unit, go for mod3
check hermitz planner for skins schedule

[rain forge]

since when did we have a hermitzplanner gif

[raven ermine]

I would assume so yeah

[pseudo flume]

@hidden wolf

[pseudo flume]

I mean both are Red Discord pfps 🚬

[pseudo flume]

@hidden wolf

[pseudo flume]

Since 2025?

[rain forge]

also how do i embed a gif in a message

[pseudo flume]

Copy Media Link

[pseudo flume]

I honestly forgot about the Hermitzplanner, Dossoles and Krooster gifs from time to time

[astral thorn]

https://krooster.com/u/humor-white-blaze-31oc aside from sash pralt and logos who else should I mod?

[rain forge]

nah

[astral thorn]

Thx

[rain forge]

i wouldnt reccomend ethan mod for you rn now that i think about it

[dense walrus]

managed to beat annihilation 3 with this setup THANK YOU 🙏

[undone portal]

get conviction/frostleaf/shirayuki/quartz/vermeil/purestream to e1 for base

[astral thorn]

Thx

[lyric lagoon]

you could remove like 5 of those ops and you still would’ve been fine

[dense walrus]

no way i would

perhaps 5 non deployed if you mean

[slender temple]

Okay why is there 4 different vangaurds in your slot

[lyric lagoon]

pram, sustain, bottom laneholder = win

[dense walrus]

well, sa2 is for either swap, or invis reveal, myrtle and texas generate dp when i mess up ines spawn 🙏

[ancient current]

they won
why are you nitpicking over this

[dense walrus]

I feel like it's a ocd thing where veterans feel a sharp sensation of pain seeing inexperienced players

[ancient current]

well, anyways
moving on

[dark mirage]

Oh you didnt solo with gummy and durin? What a noob

[lethal chasm]

Closure and Kal honestly don't look worth it right?

[glass mural]

Closure is giving us ehh, definitely over hyped. Perfectly solid but not at the top like Sash and Ines are vibes.

[glass mural]

Kal'tsit on the other hand, is a complete and utter monster.

[lethal chasm]

Yeah I like kals ability better then closure. But it still doesn't look super great to me so I might skip them

[glass mural]

lemme put it this way.

Flying incredibly hard for enemies to target true damage Wis'adel esque (the blast radius is definitely smaller) nuke spammer and the nukes heal.

[stone karma]

when is ines second module coming out on global?

[slender temple]

They seem to be good utility ops overall but if you're looking for just dmg number obviously they wouldn't offer you something like Wang does

[glad drum]

anyone here with max wang and pramalt, need it for anni35 , yes this is in cn

[dense walrus]

i only see 1 module on the wikia. she has another one???

[glass mural]

Alternatively, flying healer who force undeploys and lets you redeploy anyone, such as Sakiko S3, effectively letting you speedrun say, getting Sakiko S3 online again after just using it.

[wraith shoal]

feel like 7th anni ops are kinda skipable tbh. Closure is not anything crazy and kal is alright I guess. Yes she's flying but if I want a medic who does damage I will take Mon3tr over her, plus her s2 has some ass targetting

[lament jetty]

Are rewarrds tied to clearing abnormal spectrum story permanent or do i have to do it within the event duration?

[wraith shoal]

the ones with the timer are limited time

[lethal chasm]

Wait I thought Wang wasn't available yet

[lyric lagoon]

“this is in cn”

[glass mural]

Final part.

[wraith shoal]

he is out in cn

[lament jetty]

Oh, didnt event notice theres a separate small timer for some of them, tyy

[lethal chasm]

😂 Sorry

[ancient current]

wait tw is on mantra rn?

[quick jolt]

nope, idk what this persons on about, she hasnt gotten a 2nd one

[obtuse obsidian]

Aint tw like one month behind us or something

[raw wigeon]

Yes mantra event is about to end there and they're on icebreaker

[dense walrus]

which module for thorns is better nervous impairment or arts?

[ancient current]

roughly yes, but they've been speeding up

[ivory terrace]

~3 weeks now

[wraith shoal]

speeding up as in multiple events running at the same time?

[lament jetty]

Yeah, its ending in a few hrs

[ancient current]

speeding up as in not catching a single breather at all

🥹

[ivory terrace]

they are about to start SA2 event

[ancient current]

rough for you guys

[wraith shoal]

no dead weeks is rough

[glass mural]

Is neither, save the blocks an option?

[glad drum]

TW is basically on ADHD speedrun tech for more than a year now

[obtuse obsidian]

surely they plan to catch tw with global so then we all speed up to catch up with cn :clueless:

[lament jetty]

I wont be surprised if it eventually catch up to cn, hope i can still hoard enough pulls for future units...

[ancient current]

both are valid but you can tactically save mod blocks by choosing X
X is fine at lv2, delta wants lv3 to hope reaching X's performance

[dense walrus]

so which one will help me more in like annihilation for example?

[glad drum]

global catching up to CN would happen first before PC client lol

[ancient current]

X is perfectly fine

[lyric lagoon]

if they do that then global will just be cn but the least favorite child with the least amount of extra rewards 💔

[dense walrus]

does thorns nervous stack if you place him near tragodia?

[lyric lagoon]

it contributes towards the burst but thorns will contribute barely anything to it

[quick jolt]

elemental bursts dont "stack", but thorns w/ delta can take advantage of a nervous burst procced by tragodia

[dense walrus]

interesting

[ancient current]

oh wait trag was nervous? i forgot

[lyric lagoon]

thorns delta mod relies on damage dealt (by himself), whereas trag is atk based

[obtuse obsidian]

is thorn trag a bigger copium then cat trag or vica versa

[ivory terrace]

but idt thorns delta lets him do elemental while burst is active

[glass mural]

Cat Trag?

[ancient current]

oh wait right paralysis was the other thing
I uhhh don't use 6* so I don't have access to these things I forgot

[lyric lagoon]

thorns trag is just trag doing 90% of the work

[quick jolt]

it does, thats the point of the mod

[dense walrus]

X says "Attacks poison the target, dealing 135 Arts damage per second"

while delta says dealing 200 Arts Damage to them per second, lasting" isn't then delta a better choice if i just want to do more arts damage?

[obtuse obsidian]

ms cristane 🥀

[ivory terrace]

the thing about X is that it can stack layers of the DoT

[ancient current]

miss christine sucks so I indeed don't have access to nervous impairment

[glass mural]

People use her? 🐈‍⬛

[quick jolt]

you ignored the "stacking up to 4 times" part of the X mod, the part that makes it good

[dense walrus]

Right

[obtuse obsidian]

do i have you as friend in ak? if no let me add you so i delete you

[lyric lagoon]

wut, paralysis comes with nervous impairment

[quick jolt]

the problem with thorns' delta is that he cant reliably proc nervous impairment unless the enemy is tanky as fuck already, so for weaker enemies he just kills them slower than his X mod

[glass mural]

You want to delete Rechord?

[dense walrus]

is there any op with 3 modules?

[ancient current]

ebenholz

[obtuse obsidian]

many

[ancient current]

kaltsit

[quick jolt]

there are multiple

[ancient current]

many more

[ivory terrace]

mantra can parahax with s3, no nervous proc required iirc

[glass mural]

The first two + an IS.

[lyric stratus]

which mod for thorns

[ancient current]

X lv2 is fine

[rustic pelican]

Gnosis if u count his IS module

[obtuse obsidian]

usually X Y delta or X Y alpha

we dont have delta and alpha on same op iirc

[ancient current]

oh it does... yeah forgot that too

[hidden wolf]

When is trag rerun

[quick jolt]

later this year

[glass mural]

@lyric stratus

[ancient current]

skipped trag so I can't refresh my memory well

[ivory terrace]

usually the gap is one year in between initial and rerun

[hidden wolf]

How long after wang

[wraith shoal]

we dont know exact date

[quick jolt]

CN hasnt gotten it yet and its been 3 months since wang, soo

[glass mural]

Long enough that you can pull on it without compromising on either your Wang or Kal funds.

[quick jolt]

and they still have the masses travels rerun to get through after kalter

[obtuse obsidian]

will there always the summer banner funds to question

[glass mural]

On the flipside, Kal rolling compromises your Trag funds, but they're all really goated units, and one of them is a standard, and the other two are limiteds, sooo...

[ivory terrace]

in CN ye trag rerun will be right up against the summer limited

[mint hound]

Kal is mid

[glass mural]

... I hate banner timing.

[obtuse obsidian]

whats kal s2 total damage anyway

[glass mural]

5k times 10 or so I think, so roughly 50?

[mint hound]

50k I think

[quick jolt]

should be slightly higher than mon3tr s3 iirc

[obtuse obsidian]

meh guess average player can skip the banner 👏

[mint hound]

But the target is ass

[wraith sentinel]

Though ammo still gets spent on normal healing which is unfortunate.

[mint hound]

She could waste all ammos on chipped dmg

[wraith sentinel]

Especially after Lemuen S2.

[quick jolt]

nvm actually if its 10 ammo mon3tr is higher

[obtuse obsidian]

wait its ammo

laterano kal in stronghold copium up

[quick jolt]

stronghold 2 ended like right before they got her too

[obtuse obsidian]

3rd time the charm or something

[real wedge]

which unit I should Elite 2 first Silverash Alter or Tragodia? the only elite 2 unit I have right now is Pramanix Alter

[quick jolt]

probably tragodia so he has an easier time proccing nervous

[obtuse obsidian]

is there like other options

[glass mural]

Doesn't scale as hard as Mon3tr into some modes too tbh.

[mint hound]

Trag, SA2 is overrated

[real wedge]

Alright tysmm guyss

[quick jolt]

no the fuck hes not? lmao

[obtuse obsidian]

lowkey if you have Sa1 e2 that first

[robust widget]

i dont think overrated is the right word

[undone portal]

why are we focusing on kal'alt s2s damage as her selling point when being functionally invincible and an exualt s3 sidegrade is the main draw

[lyric lagoon]

just because trag is the better raise prio doesn't mean sash2 is overrated

[real wedge]

silverash the original one? I dont have him

[ivory terrace]

true damage at e1

[urban sleet]

Its more of being mis-displayed by yt memeslop

[mint hound]

IMO Ines is still slightly better

[obtuse obsidian]

cause i was thinking for average player

nerds can think for them self 👏

[undone portal]

vina has true damage at e0

[quick jolt]

great, good for you

[lyric lagoon]

cause people want medics to be wisadel

[quick jolt]

nobody is claiming sa2 is objectively better than ines anyway

[tired pewter]

we need a #petty-arguments sub-channel

[dense walrus]

should i cop these two and save them for wangster gangster?

[quick jolt]

if you want to, sure

[undone portal]

its your $46

[mint hound]

Because she is also not the best healer if you remove her DPS capabilities

[lyric lagoon]

like we finally have another good medic voucher pick nobody needs true damage wangsadel

[tired pewter]

those packs have good value if you're willing to spend that much

[dense walrus]

i guess it ain't worth it since it costs 30k to e1

[quick jolt]

its an instant e2 voucher

[glass mural]

A medic option that isn't Mon3tr/Eyja (I don't have her)/Amiya/Sussurro for the 20th time?

Actually come to think of it, she's functionally actually untargetable for the plants that eat things, right?

[undone portal]

yep

takes off and never lands like the other takeoff units do

[ancient current]

blockshift still works on insta takeoff units

[undone portal]

oh cool ill remember that im using white dance shoes to put kal'alt on a ground tile

[ancient current]

however if the enemy attack is fast enough, iirc they still hit once if you blockshift

[glass mural]

she's a good IS5 draft?

Hits hard enough to kill the crystals, hard enough to clear trash mobs, actually hits things at E1...

I could see myself leading with her.

[ancient current]

sorry i can't tell, my knowledge is limited to greyy2 santalla start

[glass mural]

I want a refund on my ReChord.

Ehh, I'll figure it out in a couple months from now, probably.

[ancient current]

I'm a 5* player who doesn't know what half of the 6* do so you can't expect detailed info on 6* from me I'm afraid

[glass mural]

Future Nate's question to deal with. Current Nate kicking the bucket down for 6 months from now. 🥱 🦵 🪣

[obtuse obsidian]

who we talking about here kal2? ya probably good IS5 opener

but then i think anyone can open IS5 🤫

[ancient current]

is5 isn't slop like is6 so I can see a valid angle here

but anyways, this is more for #strategy or #is-station for theorycrafting atp

[undone portal]

kal'alt/humus/roberta opener sounds incredibly workable

or deepcolor i suppose if youre not robertapilled

[glass mural]

I'll add those two to the bucket list, thx.

[raw wigeon]

CN people said Kal is a strong opener but doesn't seem enough to replace monster in the IS5 endings in IS6 it's also like really strong in bosky fight but would take people some time to fit her in an ending draft

[undone portal]

s3 sounds great for is6 ed4

[glass mural]

Makes sense. Doesn't really scale like Mon3tr does.

[undone portal]

^ kal'alt s2 is stuck with ammo so she doesnt get to benefit from is5 aspd shenanigans in the same way

[urban sleet]

Yeah ammo skill are obliviois to aspd buffs

[undone portal]

is6 relics tho

[urban sleet]

Iirc alyssal said shes can be good for IS3

Smh is3 makes me wish I rather coped for ange shop instead of certing chetto

[undone portal]

takeoff ignores nethersea brand yea?

[urban sleet]

It should

[ancient current]

I'm tempted to say it doesn't

[dark prism]

I don't think it does

[urban sleet]

[ancient current]

because takeoff doesn't ignore necrosis areas like those from spines

[glass mural]

For some reason, I remember Leizi dying horribly.

[undone portal]

https://youtu.be/JWibTxY_LDY?si=NeflK036tMCVcNhr it does

[ancient current]

oh damn

well, nethersea brand is an environmental effect

[undone portal]

kal'alt sounds incredibly fun if you can get your hands on white dance shoes

[ancient current]

strategically draft mod3 Folinic to reduce nethersea brand damage by 25%

but anyways, enough theorycrafting, that's for #is-station

[undone portal]

strategically draft chilchuck to reduce nethersea brand damage by 100%

-# hoping we see brand in ra3 so passenger mod can continue cooking

[urban sleet]

Now how to strategically get chilchuck

[rain forge]

leizi2 can permanently stand on nethersea brand without taking any NI dmg and blocking it from spreading 🤫

[lunar apex]

travel back in time

[urban sleet]

When does this ch 17 event end

[glass mural]

||Sadly, the adamant stream flows ever onwards. Always onwards, never backwards.||

[undone portal]

15th

[rain forge]

it began on 1st so im assuming 15th? Not sure

[glass mural]

[urban sleet]

[safe tundra]

is mod2-3 still bugged btw

[ancient current]

excellent question

[safe tundra]

the part where range extension from s1 doesnt fucking apply the talent

[ancient current]

haven't checked in a while, lemme recheck

[urban sleet]

A folinic user apart from rechord amd shileds

[safe tundra]

folinic lowkey is why i even got into arkn*ghts

[undone portal]

the what

[ancient current]

yes 🥹

[mental gull]

is zuo le valued more today than kal tsit?

[undone portal]

i should build folinic one day, her lore is cool

[undone portal]

kinda the same tbh. zuo le is better in gen content, kal is better in is, neither of them see high end use much

[ancient current]

she fucking sucks, so kinda don't bother tbh
I still think ceylon is better

[safe tundra]

aside from her kaltsit beta s2, shes essentially just 5* ansel

[bold kernel]

Which Module should I use for Kal outside of IS and is her IS mod worth leveling for IS?

[nimble kite]

What is Folinic bug btw?

[undone portal]

see above message from nocchi

[ancient current]

_ _

[safe tundra]

:ENhands:

[nimble kite]

Panacea, Lv3, if you gonna use outside of IS.

[urban sleet]

Different roles but I woild recommend zuo le to the averwge player simply because he's decent
Kal on the other hand is relegated to her IS mod (wont say shes trash but yeah not good these days)

[nimble kite]

Oh, I get it.

[glass mural]

IS modules are reeeeaaaaallllyy cheap and sometimes get you nice return on investment for them.

[vestal needle]

Is there a resource of what counts as summoner damage and what doesn't for different summons? I find it more than a little tilting that the risk tongbao doesn't count Mon3tr damage for charging Kal's skill but Borderbound mirror doesn't protect from Yi summons

[ancient current]

I also think the almond "bug" ended up being intentional they never "fixed" it

[glass mural]

Kal'tsit has a solid module, sooo.

[undone portal]

almond bug? im a fake perroknightser, what is it

[glass mural]

Might as well. Unless you're telling me 3 module blocks or so would send you into poverty, but if that's the case, you have bigger issues.

[ancient current]

she's the only puller with a different target priority than the others, on S1

[urban sleet]

Which tongbao is thjs

[ancient current]

at first I thought it was something they overlooked but actually might have been intentional idk

[pine sorrel]

hoe does silverash alter s2 work if there is no caster guard pewpew to the rigt of the thing

[undone portal]

oh wtfart
so ill have a real reason to have both almond/snowsant built then

[urban sleet]

He still reduces dp, he only pripritises those three classes

[glass mural]

Starts looking for closest I think.

[vestal needle]

Shennong's Wrath, -1/s +2/s while dealing damage

[pine sorrel]

closest to both sides?

[raven ermine]

Summoner damage doesn't exist
Either the damage is sourced to the summon, or the damage is sourced to the operator
That tongbao only works for damage sourced to the operator

[ancient current]

other pullers prio farthest target from self on s1, but she prios closest to blue box instead
to be fair this is extremely niche, but you can build almond if you play is4 for the legendary e.nmtf solo at max diff

[vestal needle]

Well I basically meant that yes

[undone portal]

quite incredible

[ancient current]

I think I remember almond being the only one below 6* to solo e.nmtf at max diff

[urban sleet]

If a relic/tongbao states 'operqtor' it excludes summons

If it states 'allied units', it inclides summons

[raven ermine]

Basically
All "devices" type summons like trag s2, mines, etc are sourced to the operator
All "unit" type summons, like raidian's summons, monster, mayer etc are sourced to the summon

[vestal needle]

So when Yi summons his explosive waves,

[turbid ocean]

thats different

Yi is an enemy and his explosive waves is just enemies coded to explode

[raven ermine]

If you mean the relic reducing first instance of damage by 90%
I'm pretty sure the fact that the enemies are dealing damage on death has something to do with it

[turbid ocean]

this is why alot of relics can be deceptive whether its good or bad
without more intimiate knowledge

[raven ermine]

Tho i never paid attention to the interaction in the first place

[undone portal]

liangs are counted as their own enemies so borderbound mirror affects all of them

[turbid ocean]

even simple +x% attack can be good / bad depending on operator kits

[undone portal]

mirror is basically the yi declawer goated ed1 pull

[urban sleet]

Known goated relic for ed1 :ya:

[raven ermine]

tbf
Relic scaling can be confusing/obscure at times, and the formula isn't the same than the usual operators one

[obtuse obsidian]

what was the event where we fight mechanist/rosmo called?

[undone portal]

would not have noticed if not for liang having its own page in enemy info

[undone portal]

vector breakthrough

[obtuse obsidian]

ty

[raven ermine]

Vector breakthrough ? tho the exact name of each iteration would be on the wiki

[undone portal]

mechanist would be vb1

[urban sleet]

Wait IS math and regylar math is different?

[raven ermine]

yesn't

[urban sleet]

I might have misinfo-ed someone if so surely they wont sue me

[undone portal]

relics tend to apply multiplicatively

[turbid ocean]

because IS relics can affect instage or out of stage stats

[raven ermine]

Some things are the same, and some are not, which is why it tend to be confusing

[turbid ocean]

it depends on wording

and sometimes you just dont know because weird coding

[urban sleet]

Oh its just that phew I didnt misinfo

[raven ermine]

What light said is part of it
Some relics also aren't multiplicative when you assume they are, so you have to check prts

[ancient current]

@safe tundra it's still bugged

[raven ermine]

and a bunch of other small things

[ancient current]

not like anyone on the dev team remembers who the fuck folinic is.....

[undone portal]

they fixed blazealt s1 dp bug within hours of release yet they leave folinic in these conditions

[robust widget]

Ray s3 states this, does this mean on 3 kills she gains 30 sp or is it a one time?

[ancient current]

such is the fate of a 5*

[turbid ocean]

no

[robust widget]

I was guessing one time

[turbid ocean]

it means as long as she killed one enemy
she starts next skill cycle with 10/33 SP

[undone portal]

capped at 10

[robust widget]

Ty🙏

[undone portal]

basically just there so the cycle lines up with sandbeast better
or perfectly if you run mod x

[robust widget]

Have not checked modules yet because i have 0 lmd

[turbid ocean]

given that you retreat sandbeast manually as skill ends

Ray mod is good

[undone portal]

y has better damage, x lets you cycle sandbeast/s3 together precisely
y isnt in global yet

[robust widget]

Also another question, is it worth raising ray even if i already have lemuen e2’d, this wont change my plan of raising her because she looks cool anyways

[undone portal]

they fill roughly the same role, lemuen has comfier targeting, ray has bind

lemuen does have aoe on s3 so she handles crowds better

[robust widget]

An extra boss killer on the account wont hurt

[undone portal]

nuke cycling simulator

[vital kelp]

guys so im thinking... since exu2 s1 shoots all bullets when u manually end skill right? combined with sp and bullet relics in IS wouldnt it be actually insane scaling

[undone portal]

s2 scales even harder

[vital kelp]

but spinach

[robust widget]

Ulpi anchor, lemuen nukes, ray sniper shots, very enjoyable for enemies

[limpid yarrow]

total damage is just too low I think

[wraith sentinel]

I'm just sad her S1 isn't an Offensive Recovery Skill.

[undone portal]

also the barrier gets kinda ridiculous with any hp boost relics. see is6 ed2

[limpid yarrow]

if there was swift alliance in IS

but since hg hates fun there’s no way to get enough sp to make it worth

[vital kelp]

😭

[undone portal]

s2 scales with spinach better

[vital kelp]

i was thinking like if its 12 attacks in one attack every 2 second that'll be really good

[undone portal]

sounds highroll dependent and micromanagement heavy

[vital kelp]

counterpoint: funny

[undone portal]

and removes any of the actual utility you get from bringing exualt
i admit it would be funny

[limpid yarrow]

the only way to do this is 200 swift in spa
the mode where you’re not allowed to manually deactivate

[dense walrus]

did tragodia come by himself or with a limited?

[vital kelp]

not with limited, with miss christine

[undone portal]

solo debut, he'll rerun sometime after kal'alt banner

event also came with tippi (banner 5star) and ms.christine (welfare)

[dense walrus]

so they just decided let's drop a non linited top 3 operator?

[vital kelp]

limited has no correlation with strong

[dense walrus]

true, ch3n is non limited

is she considered stronger than sakiko?

[undone portal]

also something tells me they heavily underestimated tragodia s2 during playtesting
ch'3ns a bit easier to use than saki

[wraith sentinel]

I'd say a bit different in role.

[timber finch]

weakness fighter vs lord makes it quite a different use

[limpid yarrow]

very different use case

[opaque remnant]

Not sure if you can draw a direct comparison

[limpid yarrow]

apples and oranges ahh

[dense walrus]

the cooldown or enemy pathing?

[opaque remnant]

Arts fighter who switches between arts and physical anyways…

[obtuse obsidian]

when mlynar was released he was the top 1 dps for long ass time
when surtr was released before that she was the top 1 dps for long time too

they just release broke op when they feel like it

[limpid yarrow]

unc still has it

dps hasn’t changed that much
it’s everything else about ops

[timber finch]

im surprised they never made a skin where he just bash people with the newspaper tbh

[rustic pecan]

do u think ill have enough time to clear all the annihilations as well as clear the siracusa sidestories including the lappland rerun?

[vital kelp]

we dont know about u

[limpid yarrow]

wisadel total s3 damage is about the same as mlynar
but she is ranged, has slow, has camo, etc.

[rustic pecan]

mb, im talking about sanity

[timber finch]

what about wang & exu2 ?

[dense walrus]

time probably, sanity ❓

[limpid yarrow]

wangs damage is like a whole other level from any other op rn

[wraith sentinel]

I think both Exusiai and Lemuen have higher damage than Wis'adel?

[turbid ocean]

Lemuen no

[limpid yarrow]

exu2 is starting to show cracks ngl but still valid utility and s2 stats are fine for most content

[median fable]

wang has like 150k total dmg
mlynar should have like 120k post mod
wisadel is like 120k
(iirc)

[rustic pecan]

aight then thx

[turbid ocean]

Wis is 120K too

[limpid yarrow]

wang is more like 220k

[turbid ocean]

Its about damage quality and cycle

how is it 220K

[dense walrus]

and chen does 400k?

[turbid ocean]

the fuck

[limpid yarrow]

it’s at least 200k

[median fable]

yeah, you're right

[vital kelp]

conditional

[turbid ocean]

[timber finch]

sure
if you find a boss/ennemy with enough hp

[limpid yarrow]

hoshi is already 200k
wang > hoshi
this is my thought process from what was tested I forget the exact graph

[undone portal]

pathing. i think the quick startup was an informed decision, cat lure being strong was not

[dense walrus]

oh lol i forgot

[turbid ocean]

Hoshi is 230K confirmed

[limpid yarrow]

Chen could deal 16 billion against RA CC bosses

[turbid ocean]

Where are you getting Wang numbers

[vital kelp]

if enemy has like 70m hp with no resistance she does 400k every hit

[rustic pecan]

230k with specialization and mod3?

[limpid yarrow]

super bloody wolf review

[timber finch]

so arts will rule over this world at this point

[median fable]

also hoshi2 ~230k is conditional

[turbid ocean]

thats a given

[rustic pecan]

holy wow

[sinful walrus]

How do I calculate trapmaster dmg?

[dense walrus]

does anyone have link to that chen website

[median fable]

not such a strict conditional but it's still a conditional

[vital kelp]

everyone pulling shit out of their ass now wtf

[turbid ocean]

Wang I could push 170K on paper

[obtuse obsidian]

is the 230k with self kill?

[limpid yarrow]

wang is def at least 200k

[undone portal]

https://laqera.github.io/chen-dawnstreak-marketing/ courtesy of laqera

[median fable]

why should a trapmaster dmg be calced differently?

[turbid ocean]

Its 200K if you consider the initial mines + 1 cycle sure

[vital kelp]

yeah light is scratching his hair off with misinformation
don quixote is right

[robust widget]

Dmg per trap hit?

[turbid ocean]

but thats a bit misleading unless you're undeploying wang every time

[sinful walrus]

Like they can keep generating traps you know

[vital kelp]

wang the unemployed?

[median fable]

Ela is a trapmaster, she basically deals 0 dmg with her traps

[limpid yarrow]

even if you don’t 100% optimize the trap cycle his damage blows everything else out of the water

[obtuse obsidian]

lets be real ela is only trapmaster in name

[limpid yarrow]

it’s high quality damage too since 36 res pen

[median fable]

it goes case by case

[vital kelp]

where does people put robin

[dense walrus]

are u you supposed to drop wang's traps during the boss revive so they explode in 1 hit?

[turbid ocean]

At 0 resistances Exu2 still has significantly higher DPS

context matters

[limpid yarrow]

at 0 resistances there are too many frauds

[median fable]

at 90 res and 5k def Mon3tr has better dps

[sinful walrus]

Good night

[vital kelp]

at 0 resistance krooster has like way more total damage

[turbid ocean]

well we can't just put specific numbers

so just classifying as one as better or worse is just asking for trouble

[limpid yarrow]

if you look at arclight tags m3 had a 2.5x multiplier compared to others
context quite important

[undone portal]

you certainly can

[limpid yarrow]

that being said “good high quality damage” is fairly easy to visualize

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh why did this long ass thing even start i forgot

[median fable]

virtuosa has better dps than wang against 99 res, right?

[limpid yarrow]

no

[obtuse obsidian]

dont he res shred?

[undone portal]

maybe push that to 140res and itll be true

[limpid yarrow]

wang against 100 res is still usable damage because he has 36 pen

[vital kelp]

she has better dps than wang if enemy has art barrier

[dense walrus]

do you need wang pot6 for 36 pen?

[limpid yarrow]

any res above 100 doesn’t matter it becomes 100 and then subtract to 64 after pen

[timber finch]

mod3 e2

[obtuse obsidian]

actually dont res ignore still ignore the bonus res or whatever

i think virt win when 99% damage redection 🥹

[limpid yarrow]

true

[dense walrus]

so it becomes 39 at p6? or am i wrong

[limpid yarrow]

it’s ok ccb5 will save everyone

[wheat saddle]

between hoshi2, pram2 and tragodia which order should I prioritize for modules

[turbid ocean]

you meant DR not Res

[timber finch]

i dont check useless potentials

[limpid yarrow]

we can finally see who’s a fraud and who’s not

[undone portal]

36 is default, goes up to 39 with pot5

[median fable]

yeah, my mistake

[obtuse obsidian]

iirc IS6 ed4 boss have that much damage redection so you can use virt over wang there

just need to proc like 1000 times

[turbid ocean]

these are all stupid metrics we're moving on

[limpid yarrow]

is6 is probably the worst metric for relicless calculations

[vital kelp]

i should quote bloodwolf here on the swimming part but thats gonna get light to kick my ass

[limpid yarrow]

only when the water level drops can you see who’s swimming naked

[dense walrus]

I thou they said dupe levels aren't dependant, but you get more firepower the higher pot he is??

[vital kelp]

light kick his ass

[wraith sentinel]

Module.

[obtuse obsidian]

what does miksa use as main skill?

[vital kelp]

wao no way one extra mine

[limpid yarrow]

4 probably

[undone portal]

wang pots are more impactful than most

[minor mica]

Any mods I should prio getting to M3 or M2 out the characters I use regularly? Listed is what I am currently at

Logos M2 - Sakiko M1 - Haruka M1 - Pram Alt M1 - Leizi M0 - Degenbrecher M0 - Ray M0 - Saria M0

I do have M3 for Exu Alt & Trag

[limpid yarrow]

If you’re ever thinking “wow wang damage isn’t enough” you’re playing high risk CC and should have a whale acc

because for every other level you don’t need to worry it’s enough at pot 0

[vital kelp]

sakiko m3 logos m3

the others are arguable, haruka and pram2 works fine on mod1
the others not benefit much from modding or kinda old and not worth modding

[obtuse obsidian]

sakiko logos 3 both tbh

[median fable]

they don't matter for 99% of the player base, 5% or at most 10% increase in dmg is irrelevant

[wraith shoal]

yeah the pots give talent increase. It's still not significnant enough to warrant going for multiple copies

[limpid yarrow]

if you have to ask the answer is no basically

[vital kelp]

lemme ask yoU

whats the difference between 170k and 172k

[dense walrus]

who are you responding to

[minor mica]

okay tyty

[wraith sentinel]

Leizi's Module is pretty good (M2+), if you're talking about her alter.

[limpid yarrow]

general advice about pots

[dense walrus]

i was gonna ask how many trapmaster royal tokens do u need for max pot Wang

[wraith shoal]

20

[limpid yarrow]

4 per pot

[dense walrus]

easy that's like 50 op to stamina?

[wraith sentinel]

Uh?

[limpid yarrow]

the shop resets once every like year or so

[vital kelp]

u dont obtain royal token, theres only 2 set

[dense walrus]

for farming red certs

[limpid yarrow]

maybe more than a year idk when the pots refreshed last

[wraith shoal]

only 4 from there mate

[turbid ocean]

it does not refresh at a set schedule

[wraith sentinel]

Only one set available in Purchase Certificates.

[dense walrus]

wtf