help

[urban sleet]

....thats every skill of hers

[robust thistle]

You can drop s2 and s3 on tiles with enemies on it?

[buoyant sigil]

Nah

[hexed adder]

S3 wang sure

[haughty holly]

Is lappland still viable for beginners besides silencing exploding spider and ice drones

[buoyant sigil]

But like fairly sure s1 only explodes one enemy regardless

[urban sleet]

Regardless s1 is ST yeah, checked wiki

[buoyant sigil]

Yup

[robust thistle]

Yes dorothy s1 is ST, its why it has the highest mult

[buoyant sigil]

And s2 is…?

[robust thistle]

Is?

[urban sleet]

what did I say

[left tulip]

Bind

[abstract mauve]

aoe

[urban sleet]

Shileds how's the first impression of ch 17 welfwre looking

[wary vector]

i forgot, if my last deployed is gravel but i retreat her before stage finish, she still get kidnapped?

[abstract mauve]

uhhh. he's alright for a "welfare". kinda bad if i consider anything else tbh

s3 gains like 70% more damage from masteries lol. still waiting on masteries

[timber finch]

is there a point to unlock the other one or i can just farm this one ?
(apart for extra module parts)

[urban sleet]

[hexed adder]

Need to be onfield, and this one ingore taunt too iirc like other gate

[wary vector]

yeah ik regarding taunt but i forgot if it ignores "retreat" status

[hexed adder]

First clear rewards, ur top right on screen

[urban sleet]

This isnt like aggro ig, to get rid of 'last deployed' status need to deploy someone after

[timber finch]

so that's the only thing, right

[hexed adder]

Yeah, medals just whatever

[abstract mauve]

there's also missions if you do those

[timber finch]

yeah im not redoing it until i get new laneholders then, this boss was hell to deal with smh

[abstract mauve]

which boss was this one?

[timber finch]

this, that can somehow ignore paralysis

[hexed adder]

Its just 3 block punching bag, even easier with default device

[abstract mauve]

oh this guy. just block him with 3 block operator and destroy the 4 cannons on the left before they become problems

[timber finch]

Yeah thoses cannons werent even the issue, just precisely him ignoring paralysis tbh

[hexed adder]

Pram ice block also has funny interaction since it has low af atk

[abstract mauve]

he does like no damage if you bring healers but ye

[flat hamlet]

Any tactics on countering the body of sui in IS 6? Got the damn collectible :/
Or can I discard it somehow?

[abstract mauve]

haruka borrow unironically could be nice

[timber finch]

Well, he has a move that can one shot most of my ops somehow tbh

haruka borrow would indeed make this trivial now that i did it once for autodeploy tbf

[urban sleet]

Get the foot down to 50% hp threshold

[bitter orbit]

You didn't kill the Snowcap quickly enough.

[urban sleet]

Or do you want foot twrgeting prio

[abstract mauve]

this allows you to do ed2 path soo yeah

only if you give it to prophecy

prolly just dont pick it up next time

[flat hamlet]

And it usually targets the area where most of my units are deployed. How do I circumvent that cuz last time when it landed, it KO'd all of them :V

[flint fjord]

Right you are, managed to get through it, but now i'm at OS10 and i dont think with my 2 week account i can manage it :D

[abstract mauve]

it targets 3x3 with most units in it with a target in the middle > bottom most > left most

[flint fjord]

(oh, it's Eckogen himself! thanks for the guides )

[flat hamlet]

Ah I see
Yea I forgot what that collectible did :V
By the time I realized I could no longer back out lol

[urban sleet]

Deploy baits in a grouo where they are away from your main units and dmg it down

[abstract mauve]

if your units are spread out all you need is 1 well positioned bait

[flat hamlet]

Will try
Thanks guys!

[oak skiff]

anyone knows how devour targeting works for stronghold alliance? who is last deployed?

[buoyant sigil]

One operator directly in the front

And iirc it has to be in the tile to the front of where the op is facing only 1 tile range

[pale pebble]

Is ulpianus better or worse then muntain?

[wary vector]

collectibles that affect sarkaz on is5 works for all endings except ed4?

[urban sleet]

Muntain is washed

[haughty vector]

is it worth to get reed using 180 cert?

[echo venture]

no

[wary vector]

you use mountain when the map has super early wave and your vgs are shit

[echo venture]

yea but 99% of the time ulpian is better

[pale pebble]

Seriously?

[wary vector]

you really should check how massively different their statline is

[urban sleet]

Mountain can be your laneholder for old content if you are new but he gets statchecked in modern content

[hexed adder]

#game-news message anybody know the site for this? Or this was typo and should 14th like post below it?

[urban sleet]

Unless your standards for a 'good 6 star laneholder' is holding trash mobs

[pale pebble]

What was stat checking again?

[steep goblet]

Like pokemon

[timber finch]

it means his defense and his regen will not be enough anymore

[obtuse obsidian]

Enemies have too much stats for your unit to deal with

In cause of mountain something with 1k def come in

Or something that just kill him

[hexed adder]

nvm found it in game

[echo venture]

can you send the link

[timber finch]

just a singular caster for mountain could kill him tbh

[echo venture]

i couldn't find it in #game-news either

[hexed adder]

https://ef-webview.gryphline.com/act/activity_arknights_birth_stage_1/

[echo venture]

Event Reward Icon 'Festive Companions' and 'Fellow Travelers' can be obtained during the Pastry Tower phase of the Party Together web event.
https://ef-webview.gryphline.com/act/activity_arknights_birth_stage_1/

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh

[hexed adder]

So we will have another phase on 14th may

[timber finch]

curious wonder, how do you claim both portrait ?

[echo venture]

erm

[south fog]

Guys what do i get in pastry tower event?

[timber finch]

a portrait

[hexed adder]

Login, join the event, shrimple as that

[timber finch]

eh oh well ill try with arknight first, and see how to do endfield after

[south fog]

Only that

[pseudo flume]

Pick your Poison

I think its possible but if busy its basically choose 1

[timber finch]

probablyy

[pseudo flume]

I honestly think newbies won't catch up for the Endfield one if they didn't play some ways back

Unless for some reason they can dedicate a whole week of nonstop catch up and hypersweating

[timber finch]

actually you can claim both

[pseudo flume]

Oh good, I'll just leave it out for next week

[nova raven]

genuinely how do i get her e2

[left tulip]

Whimsy minigame I love

[timber finch]

..im still gonna test to make sure rq if endfield wish to open faster

[timber finch]

click the circle and read
(i think its ending on guided 2)

[urban sleet]

Slide krooster

[left tulip]

Beat difficulty two you can see if u click on it

[opaque remnant]

You can get both, you’ll get the choice once you do the event

[timber finch]

genuinely takes 1min btw if you don't suck like me and fail at 7 point 12 times in a row
(i have a negative reaction time istg)

[nova raven]

oh

[pseudo flume]

Replied to the wrong msg

[timber finch]

ill save this pic still incase someone else ask

[hexed adder]

U get both

[timber finch]

both on both game, yeah
so all 4

[hexed adder]

2 of kind

[pseudo flume]

[ionic wing]

hello need help with chapter 14. How do you unlock the hidden stages (eg stages) of this chapter?

[reef sparrow]

/hiddenstages in #bot-spam

[pale pebble]

Ah ok thanks

[subtle pecan]

What skill do I master for Salter? Both S2 and S3 right?

[hexed adder]

S3 want mastery more, if u want maximize s2 usage whynot but lower prio

[timber finch]

S2 is not rly worth to mastery tbf

[dense walrus]

what's the name of the knight dude that's going to be free like raidian in the new IS?

[timber finch]

Mechanist?

[south fog]

Guys this is my team what strategy should i do in this anihilation?

[blissful island]

are 8 days enough to clear this?

[grizzled tangle]

What's a good Emulator for Arknights

[wraith shoal]

ignore them

[mild yacht]

The timer is t for those objectives.

[blissful island]

oh

[hexed adder]

Salter+pram2 duo that stage naran s1 very nice here, the rest just unga bunga with that

[pale tapir]

Mumuplayer, LDplayer arknights edition, GPG
if you're a CN player they have a PC client

[hidden wolf]

What is this? Just avatar?

[undone portal]

@ancient current any thoughts on crackborne yet?

[timber finch]

yea

[violet siren]

Is sash2 s2 mainly used in IS?

[grizzled tangle]

Thanks

[undone portal]

its also useful in gen content if you want sustained dp gen

[hidden wolf]

U cna just brute force it

U havent done that annihilation despite having played this long?

[south fog]

This gonna sound stupid but can you tell me where do i put my operator

[hidden wolf]

Wdym bro did u buy account

[south fog]

No im just stupid 😭😭

[hidden wolf]

How did u level up all that ops bro

[pale tapir]

let's do this thing where you try it out yourself first then come back and ask in #strategy if you fail
to avoid wasting sanity force quit the game if you leak any

[south fog]

Im playing since lapp alter

[lyric lagoon]

you can legit put pram, on the top high ground lane, haruka on the bottom highground lane with tuta, then literally any of the laneholders you have in the bottom low ground lane

[undone portal]

main concern rn is that her s2 got the cement s2 special of def stacks that get lost on hit except crackborne has lower numbers, only 5 stacks and relies on those stacks to deal one (1) proc of corrosion against any enemies in range

[sly compass]

If you want a placement guide there are tons on YouTube. But I suggest just yoloing it. Your ops are verrrrry op, you can prolly wing it and do fine sololong as you bring Myrtle

[lyric lagoon]

or just do anything you want considering you should not be losing with that team 😭

[fast pivot]

Kjeragandr kills my units will icicles while Maiden is invulnerable.. devs now invent "hidden" mechanics just to frustrate

[south fog]

I tought my team was terrible since i dont have the good operators

[sly compass]

Ok, THAT says you bought the account lol

[south fog]

?

[timber finch]

you know that atleast 4 of your ops can be considered meta

[south fog]

I ask for help since lapp alter baner in this server i think you can check that

[undone portal]

not knowing to do annihilation even though the game basically forces you into doing one chernobog attempt and tells you outright 'this is how you earn pulls' is sus as hell

[lyric lagoon]

“my team is terrible” looks inside almost all modern ops, actually scratch that, the only non-modern op is lapp and i’m just not gonna count her towards that

[timber finch]

that one is also one of the 3 ones the game send you into

and the only difficulty is like, 5 swarms of art drone

[hidden wolf]

Does it force u hmm? I wasnt forced idk

[timber finch]

basically forcepin them in your terminal for you tbh

[hidden wolf]

Oh i just ignored it when started playing

[astral bear]

hi guys do we have an option on kal 2 yet

[south fog]

I did my first anihilation 1 week ago didn't complete because of 1 enemy 🥹

[robust thistle]

Theres this concept of "try again"

[hidden wolf]

U can just lapland ult kill them all

[lyric lagoon]

it’s not hidden though? they literally tell you on boss info

[undone portal]

ok actually bigger question, if youve been playing since lappalt event how the hell do you have yu

[robust thistle]

The stage doesnt disappear if you fail it once

Isnt yu after lappalt

[timber finch]

wait wasnt there a sui banner 3-6 months ago

[lyric lagoon]

yu was after lappalt

[south fog]

Yu was after her

[undone portal]

nvm im dumb carry on

[robust thistle]

This is getting derailed, just gi do annihilation, it gives you pulls, thats it

[south fog]

And why you guys are doubting me 😭

[lyric lagoon]

cause no way in hell should you be losing with THAT

[timber finch]

Thorns can solo like 80% of this anni btw

just telling..

[robust thistle]

We dont need to know your train of thought as to how you dont know or think your team is bad or something, just do it

[undone portal]

sorta easy to doubt youve been ignoring annihilation this entire time and still had the pulls to get everyone in your sc
point is, this team should steamroll .. every annihilation map, really

[robust thistle]

Was that a server invite

[lyric lagoon]

like, pramalt alone can hold 3 of those lanes by herself (and a healer ig)

[timber finch]

80% of the ennemies come at middle
almost none top
few bottom, and some goes mid

the only difficulty, as said, is 5 art drone swarms

[south fog]

I didnt try yeat i just looked at the mape and asked here because 3 blue box is to much

[robust thistle]

Just do it

It wont delete your sccount

[timber finch]

kyostinv is always an option btw

[pale tapir]

how are we still on this

[lyric lagoon]

local ak player too afraid to play ak

[astral bear]

im pretty sure if you did the classic of putting your archers behind your shield bearers you will be fine

[fast pivot]

"hidden" because there's no clear feedback in the stage just by playing. usually you can just retry a stage and figure out mechanics just by playing.

[lyric lagoon]

buddy, enemy info exists for a reason, there is nothing “hidden”

[worn drift]

which IS is as fun as IS6? IS5 is killing me

[timber finch]

I mean the giant white dragon attacking doesnt seem that strange

[pale tapir]

I mean I figured out that frozen pram = falling ice just by playing

[robust thistle]

Local ak.player too afraid to read enemy text

[undone portal]

did you pick up a doodle/talon/lamp during 1st floor

[astral bear]

local en too afraid to read

holy shi en react

[worn drift]

whats that? stage name?

[astral bear]

they are relics and all of them will instantly win you the game

[robust thistle]

Wellll

[pliant summit]

Is ulpianus module needed for S2 usage?

[astral bear]

*will instantly win you the game if you have 1/2 a brain

[robust thistle]

Talon is a run killer if youre stupid

[sly compass]

Reading is for CN. We all know EN can't read

[timber finch]

id say take atleast mod1..
that's a big healing bonus

[undone portal]

relic, you get to choose one of them from an encounter node in 1st floor
if you get through 1st floor without picking them up, youve kinda bricked the run unfortunately

[astral bear]

sure m1 is fine, m2 is also good

[pale tapir]

pls my friend say mod1
my friends

[worn drift]

the mechanics is kinda tedious compare to IS6. the enemy is not that hard for me

[timber finch]

mb yeah

[astral bear]

then don't play it

[pliant summit]

Oh it’s not just me that finds is confusing af

[robust thistle]

You just didnt know how to cheese it yet

[pliant summit]

So module 1 is better?

[robust thistle]

IS5 is a joke compared to 6

[worn drift]

thats why Im asking which IS to do after IS6 if its IS5 imma try it again

[timber finch]

mod 1 gives a big healing buff, which you'll want to leave him in peace

[worn drift]

time to read guide again then

[astral bear]

sure you can do is5 just take encounters in f1 until you get one of the big three, i like lamp because it's the easiest one

[undone portal]

is5 is by far the easiest is to get through if you know how to manage it
and by manage it i mean picking blueprint squad + lamp and then grabbing a snack and letting the run solve itself

[pale tapir]

IS5 is the easiest if that's what u want
earlier ones are much more punishing in terms of hope
IS3 is ragebait

[undone portal]

is2 is even more ragebait

[astral bear]

is2 is also ragebait

[pale tapir]

true

[worn drift]

shesh. so the lower the IS, the more miserable u get

[undone portal]

is3 feels like ragebait until you hit d16 and then suddenly its a real gamemode again

[robust thistle]

Yes because youre playing the early iterations

[astral bear]

yeah more or less, this ain't like slay the spire tho so lower difficulties are pretty easy

[wraith sentinel]

IS2 with a good carry isn't too bad. Especially considering the operators we have these days. Nervous Impairment is an ass though.

[robust thistle]

Youre supposed to play IS2 first, then go upwards

[worn drift]

aight IS5 then since I maxed out IS6 just now

[astral bear]

yeah you can do that

[pale tapir]

says who

[astral bear]

idk the devs?

[undone portal]

is2 has the best iteration of the class squads so its kinda easy to steamroll the entire thing with wis'adel/lemuen as long as you dont lowroll yourself into a cursed relic that bricks everything

[wraith sentinel]

-# Or roll Survivalist without any healers.

[worn drift]

oh yeah what happened to IS1, did they remove it or sum?

[wraith sentinel]

It was a temporary event.

[undone portal]

they did, most of the is1 stages got repurposed into is2/3

[astral bear]

does gravestone ever make a reappearance anywhere

[robust thistle]

I mean if you played super mario galaxy, then you playes NES, dont be surprised if you cant save the game

[undone portal]

is3 encounter

[worn drift]

found something to watch tonight then before I go sleep

[astral bear]

wow more reason for me to not play is

[robust thistle]

Isnt gravestone in IS3 bosky

[astral bear]

bro escaped to is3

[undone portal]

it is bosky, misremembered how you get there

[wraith sentinel]

Or Stun in general, because man that golem spawning in the Floor 5 fight screwed me over so many times.

[astral bear]

lwk walt usually obliterates everyone

[pale tapir]

lol I get what you mean it's just that there's no need to play them in order, doesn't matter if you play 5 before 2 before 6 before 3 or whatever
you're gonna have to relearn the unique mechanics, stages, and enemies anyway

[undone portal]

draft wis'adel and leave the golem too busy trying to kill revenants

[robust thistle]

Supposed as in "the natural progression of the game"

You were supposed to play IS2 first because no other IS existed back then

[wraith sentinel]

I try not to borrow. Did manage to cheese my D14 and D15 runs though by getting the Dejected Hallucination on Floor 5.

[proper ether]

hi guys i just started the game and im kinda lost ii dont really understand how teams work and how we can make a good teams

[pale tapir]

roadless in pins has beginner guide for u

[undone portal]

check /teambuilding in #bot-spam

[robust thistle]

Pins, roadless camelot
Dont skip tutorials

[fast pivot]

how do I stop snowballs from Mainden flying into Karlan?

[robust thistle]

Kill them?

[pale tapir]

[undone portal]

killing them is the easy solution

[wraith sentinel]

They have 5000 HP, 200 Defense and 0 RES on normal.

[fast pivot]

I had Ela with S3 on, and she failed to kill even one.

[robust thistle]

Well get better dps then

[undone portal]

paper thin in other words :nodders:

[haughty holly]

Better dps

[robust thistle]

Did you know ela has shit dps without her mines helping her

[wraith sentinel]

Pretty much, Level 1 stats only increase HP to 7000.

[haughty holly]

"no I refuse to use support units"

[pale tapir]

if they have ela surely they have decent ops

[fast pivot]

who is decent then? surely Lemuen or Exusiai aren't killing them. and those dps aren't year old.

[robust thistle]

How is exialt and lemuen not killing them, did you not use their skills

[wraith sentinel]

Hm? Why wouldn't they work.

[robust thistle]

I sniped them one by one with lemuen s3
What is this tomfoolery

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah S3 should clear them out easily.

[undone portal]

do we have a stronghold protocol channel

[wraith sentinel]

#stronghold-hall.

[lyric lagoon]

bro really thought ela outdps’s exia and lemuen, and ela without mines at that

[undone portal]

nice thanks

[haughty holly]

He's probs gonna say his lemuen is e1 or something

[abstract mauve]

5000 hp. this new viy guy 1 shots them

[pale tapir]

viy? is that the new russian dude

[abstract mauve]

that is twink "welfare" caster

[worldly carbon]

more Viy info?

hot maleknights mystic caster

[abstract mauve]

he's alr out on CN and im screwing around with them

[haughty holly]

Local cn tester shileds

[worldly carbon]

tell me more about him once you've gathered more knowledge, o great Shileds, the welfareknights player

[undone portal]

i dread to know what mizuki is if viy counts as a twink 🥀

[worldly carbon]

🥢

[south fog]

I completed thank you guys and sorry for wasting your time some minutes ago

[turbid ocean]

[brazen gulch]

what are some ops with consistent stuns besides wisadel s1?

[robust thistle]

W

[undone portal]

@abstract mauve what are your thoughts on viy btw. kinda just seems like ebenholz again but with easier to access dot

[brazen gulch]

only?

[robust thistle]

Bibeak

[turbid ocean]

@worldly carbon that emote is prohibited in this channel

[undone portal]

aak, may, kroosalt

[robust thistle]

Weedy
Skyfire

[worldly carbon]

wait which one?

[turbid ocean]

The one you just removed

[worldly carbon]

oh I'm glad I removed it then, mb

[robust thistle]

I didnt see it, do it again

[haughty holly]

Turn back time

[pale tapir]

was it an AKO emote
I don't wanna be banned for using something

[proven kelp]

Probably mpreg

[wraith sentinel]

Technically Mr. Nothing (if you have Exusiai).

[undone portal]

mpreg emote. long story

[formal shadow]

:twk:

[left tulip]

go on elaborate

[haughty holly]

Light will kill u time to go back to help question

[proven kelp]

Ch'en1 s1
Marcille s2

[abstract mauve]

i think he's ebenholz but he has typhon s3 issue of spreading out damage. the numbers on the dot are also very low that it barely has a teeny tincy bit more arts dps than entel's dot

[wraith sentinel]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Stun
List of all the Operators who can.

[haughty holly]

Who are the decent reapers nowadays

[abstract mauve]

the main thing Viy has going for him is ability to store 9 charges

[robust thistle]

Enchilada

[proven kelp]

Marcille best if you pair her with Mon3tr

[slate sigil]

i was using this composition, pretty easy

[abstract mauve]

9 charges is like around 15k damage alone

[undone portal]

dot damage output isnt really the worry for me since its more about having it at all for the enemy mechanics that ask for it
i assume viy nuke hits harder than eben if you give him time to store the full 9?

[robust thistle]

Thats kinda low for 9 charges

[abstract mauve]

he doesnt get more atk% unless on s2. s3 has atk scale but it's 1.65% atk scale

[robust thistle]

Thats sad

[abstract mauve]

oh right he gets a small ass amount of atk% from talent

[undone portal]

unfortunate

[formal shadow]

Garbage

[brazen gulch]

how does this work? i'm reading the kit and i only see an effectively one-time stun on the talent

[robust thistle]

I'll still raise him though

[abstract mauve]

s3 is the better skill but bouncing between enemies kinda pmo more than it helps

[undone portal]

might skip on viy unless his plot relevance really wows me when i read ch17. his design really isnt doing it for me

[robust thistle]

TL;DR
Exialt s2 aspd steal makes him attack slow enough to proc his stun every attack
Needs mod3

[brazen gulch]

ohhh exusiai alter

[wraith sentinel]

Exusiai the New Covenant's S2 steals 70 ASPD from an ally, Mr. Nothing with his full Module needs a 3s gap between attacks to permanently stun and with the debuff he has an attack interval of 3.33s.

Oh, yeah sorry, I don't really like abbreviating.

[worldly carbon]

so Viy ain't good? I had so much hope

[brazen gulch]

hmm yeah that's good, sad i don't have either

[undone portal]

@abstract mauve while youre here. any thoughts on crackborne

she seems kinda ass but idk if im gauging her s2 correctly

[wraith sentinel]

Das Corrosion, baby.

[abstract mauve]

your judgement is about as good as mine

[quick prawn]

what's more of a priority? gladiia modx3 or prama2 mod3?

[robust thistle]

Crackborne looks like worse philae tbh

[split bronze]

how often annihilations rotate? 1 month? There's 2 days left for this rotation and I still havent clearred the Sash2 event shop

[worldly carbon]

like 3 months or so?

[undone portal]

crackborne seems to have taken notes from philae/cement/botani and forgot to carry over any of the good parts of .. any of them

[split bronze]

pram, gladiia isn't top meta, however you can mod2 them both first

[pseudo flume]

Hope is for IS not outside of it

[quick prawn]

Aaaaa, I usually use gladiia for ulpianus, tyyyyy

[abstract mauve]

the worst of all worlds icl

[worldly carbon]

I had spare hope, wanted to recruit him😔

[flint onyx]

So am I tripping or on monday we will have all current global annihilations open?

[opaque cape]

Is there any way to play arknights CN currently without being in china

[turbid ocean]

Usually the case around limited banners

[brazen gulch]

those two are also nice though not in my case specifically thanks

[pseudo flume]

Having the CN version installed with a Chinese Account?

[split bronze]

pins in #cn-lounge need to give ID

[fast pivot]

losing the stage because of that snowballs jumpscare dps check. whole stage is reduced to this bottleneck. I will try maxed logos since mine isn't maxed out.

[undone portal]

very sad they forced her to use the same 'stack' mechanic as cement instead of just having ammo like a normal op

[wraith sentinel]

Didn't you say you have Lemuen?

[robust thistle]

We really dont need the progress report

[abstract mauve]

i dont think that would've saved her. tbh i dont think anything could save her. awful ability design

genuinely abysmal design. not much more to say

[pseudo flume]

HG should make better 5★s smh

[mild yacht]

You can say she’s cute.

[abstract mauve]

she could've been a NI primal defender maybe?

[undone portal]

they certainly locked in for ukusik/botani. idk what happened here

[pseudo flume]

Creative block or something

[wraith sentinel]

Probably roll dice on how good they want them to be.

[undone portal]

we already got cairn, and she does it well

[abstract mauve]

yeah that's the issue. what the fuck is she doing on corrosion

[worldly carbon]

124 "secret 6*?!" videos later
it's hard to make a 5 star that feels good cus it's that weird in-between and...prob also used to experiment stuff

[pseudo flume]

But Gracebearer and Botani were well made ones 🥀

[abstract mauve]

it's just weird design choices

[wraith sentinel]

Look at how they did Perfumer the Distilled dirty...

[fast pivot]

oh, logos is softbanned due to skill uptime

[abstract mauve]

botani is one of my favorite new 5*s yeeee

[opaque cape]

Yeah that’s their point rn, make a new archetype with a 5 star and then make a 6 star that completely ignores the limitations of said archetype

[mild yacht]

She had to take the F because they came out Bs.

[pseudo flume]

One of our beloved mods had their heavens shattered and split into fragments 🤫

[wraith sentinel]

I can imagine.

[worldly carbon]

man what stage you at that you're dying to some dogs that aren't even that big of a deal?

[pseudo flume]

Wait what stage is this?

[undone portal]

currently bracing for impact (inevitable 6star corrosion primal guard)

[wraith sentinel]

I don't know why they don't want to use Lemuen.

[pseudo flume]

I want a goated Skyranger

[brazen gulch]

tomimi alter

[fast pivot]

EX-8 challenge

[wraith sentinel]

Mandragora... could have been a Skyranger or Skybreaker...

[opaque cape]

Goated mercenary hopefully 🙏

[steep chasm]

Is there an analysis somewhere, of how many resources we get on average, like each month?
From dailies, events, etc...

Is it roughly one built 4* per week?

[worldly carbon]

I don't even remember dogs stacking when I did EX-8...

[mild yacht]

They’re just waiting to bring back Kristen.

[wraith sentinel]

[split bronze]

which resources?

[hardy pasture]

Which would be the next easiest Tag?
I am 2 off from 15

[elfin loom]

was it 180 gold certs to buy out tickets?

[pseudo flume]

Hope this helps
https://youtu.be/dmoX2IAMY_s

[wraith sentinel]

258 for 38 pulls.

[elfin loom]

oh ok ty

[opaque cape]

Is Yu with LappAlter better than Yu with BlazeAlter?

[pseudo flume]

180 for specific ops

[pseudo flume]

When was Blaze2 part of the Table

[worldly carbon]

is either good?

[pseudo flume]

At least the former had actual use

[opaque cape]

Isn’t that like her whole point as a primal caster?

[pseudo flume]

And she sucks at it more than Nymph who came before her

[worldly carbon]

I never heard someone say a primal caster was good tbh especially being dependent on someone else
maybe if it was mantra

[pseudo flume]

I mean Nymph had a niche

[undone portal]

just run all 3, blaze is there make the burn procs deal more damage

[timber finch]

just to know, whos the archer?

[pseudo flume]

Nyphm also has been CC tested with actual use

[worldly carbon]

yeah but nymph is good by herself, no?

[abstract mauve]

damn bro wasnt here for the nymph glaze i had to indure and go along with

[pseudo flume]

Pinecone

[undone portal]

blazealt is also good by herself if you consider her revive talent a useful niche
would argue she does the whole 'ranged tank' idea better than lin atp

[worldly carbon]

I m9 my nymph cus she cute, s2 is just funny

[opaque cape]

If only elemental damage wasn’t so exclusive, said issue could be solved with modules tbh

[pseudo flume]

But the statement said "I never heard someone say a Primal Caster was good tbh" implies the others are dysfunctional even alone

[abstract mauve]

if only the operators that relied on other operators actually did something worthwhile when you sacrifice 2 squad slots for the combo

[pseudo flume]

Her only CC use was constantly dying

[wraith sentinel]

This is anecdotal only, but since I started almost a year ago I have around 35 E2s (without using vouchers, spread out across rarities), so for 4*s since they're cheap it might be around that number.

[opaque cape]

How about the new modules, are they out yet?

[pseudo flume]

At least Nymph's niche works somewhere else

Probably the IS ones

[worldly carbon]

is "I never heard a primal caster is good at being a primal caster" better?

[abstract mauve]

CN anni had new mods ye

[undone portal]

degen/texalt got better mods
typhon/spectalt have genuine uses in is again, as expected
miksaparato ate shit

[pseudo flume]

We love Semantics in this household

[abstract mauve]

ori....

[opaque cape]

Miksa is better than Jessica atleast right?

[worldly carbon]

it's a serious question!!

[wraith sentinel]

Also having only done IS2, if you do the other IS iterations and also Reclamation Algorithm it'll definitely be more.

[abstract mauve]

sankta miksa got by far by far the best mod in the patch. not even close

[undone portal]

youre gonna have to really sell me on miksa mod y cause i dont see it

[silver smelt]

typhon does NOT have uses in is 🥱

[abstract mauve]

bro...... do you use sankta miksa s3?

[pseudo flume]

Shileds getting that wine glass filled with water and white gloves to throw for duels ready

[opaque cape]

How about Viy, decent caster or trash?

[abstract mauve]

ass for normal account

[blissful island]

do we know who’s on the next kernel banner?

[pseudo flume]

Nope

[undone portal]

as a dps tool? miksa s3 is clunky for that regardless of mod

[worldly carbon]

wait for what account is he good?

[pseudo flume]

Welfareknights and No Gacha obviously

[abstract mauve]

i really want you to reread the talent change and compare it side by side to his normal talent now that we have the numbers for them

there is no way in hell you read the numbers on his mod

[pseudo flume]

Well Viy can't be used for Welfare

No Gacha has a new toy though

[wraith sentinel]

Isn't he the Episode 17 welfare?

[opaque cape]

How does Closures DP debt mechanic work in annihilations or when DP doesn’t regen, like with merchants, do they retreat or does smthn happen?

[abstract mauve]

main story operators not counted as welfares for the sake of record keeping in the arkrec website

[pseudo flume]

Does not count according to CN rules
-# I still think its a stupid ass rule

[wraith sentinel]

I mean it halves normal regen, so I'd assume 50% of 0 DP/s is still 0 DP/s.

[silver smelt]

you just stay in negative dp gen

[worldly carbon]

there are CN rules for niches?

[pseudo flume]

Yes Arkrec has em

[silver smelt]

why is this the rule anyway

[worldly carbon]

oh yeah
I shall look into it, thank Mr. Astrel

[pseudo flume]

Here's your options

[undone portal]

the 20% hp barrier is nice but i just cant see 15% atk going far on a sentinel who dilutes the hell out of it with an inbuilt +220%

[wraith sentinel]

Does that include Amiya's alternate forms?

[pseudo flume]

Ask the CN people for this dumb rule

[opaque cape]

Welfareknights should be easy as cake tho right?

[abstract mauve]

brooooooo. broooooooooooo. going from 8 seconds without attacking to 5 seconds without attacking is fucking insane. and yeah going from 15% max hp barrier to 20% max hp barrier is also quite nice

[pseudo flume]

[silver smelt]

probably not that hard for gen content

[pseudo flume]

If only niches was that easy without Wis'adel or the Meta shits

[timber finch]

#stronghold-hall more suited for you

[opaque cape]

Vanguardknights seems to be the easiest for me at-least

[robust thistle]

Kjerag with gnosis s2

Kierag has like, no damage though

[timber finch]

yeah kjerag dps is pram2 basically

[opaque cape]

Degen counts or no?

[pseudo flume]

They got nerfed compared to SP1 smh

[worldly carbon]

no damage unless you pull out the 6*s

[opaque cape]

I mean the biggest issue seems to be invisible enemies and air for most niches

[undone portal]

ill give it that mod y makes him a better brick, which is what you would build him towards in the absence of invis enemies to reveal. his main appeal for my own uses is still that hes an invis reveal brick with lateran ammo support

[pseudo flume]

Kjerag has SA, Raid has Ines

[undone portal]

invis reveal still feels too relevant to throw away just to push him closer to nian performance

[worldly carbon]

totter

[pseudo flume]

I don't he's even in SP

[opaque cape]

Supporterknights or specialist knights seem to be the most fun ones imo

[pseudo flume]

Im probably mistaken because I haven't looked too closely in the squads

[worldly carbon]

you can only use odd number in SP?

[abstract mauve]

i mean if you exclusively use him for invis reveal then yeah i get what you mean. but since i bring him literally everywhere, i know that's also a reason why i use him not the reason. his new mod gives s3 7% more damage as well which ill take with the way increased survivability

[undone portal]

i will shill specialistknights forever, coolest classknights by far

[wraith sentinel]

Does Aak's S2/S3 count as an attack for Defensive Recovery?

[pseudo flume]

The only time you can get custom slots is Tier V and VI, only thing you can place is 6*

[undone portal]

free 15sp for def.rec :nodders:

[wraith sentinel]

Thanks.

[opaque cape]

Carried by Ethan and any FRDs

[wraith sentinel]

Exusiai also kinda broken.

[silver smelt]

closure s2 + exu s3 positive dp trade thoughts and feelings?

[steep chasm]

Specialists-only seems to struggle with DP though?

[worldly carbon]

by ethan?...I'd say carried by fast redeploy

[silver smelt]

yes let me just pick the most broken class of all time ✅

[pseudo flume]

Too unnecessary imo

[undone portal]

its definitely nice to have within the niches that can bring him, welfares/men/laterans get their own nian. i just cant see myself suggesting it for a normal account

[silver smelt]

are u guys forgetting wang

[opaque cape]

I forgot wang exists lmao

Defenderknights seems so boring

[undone portal]

defenderknights honorable mention for being the only constraint in which blemishine is good

[wraith sentinel]

I like watching Defenderknight clears.

Mostly because Fortress Defenders are one of my favourite archetypes.

[worldly carbon]

the problem with defenderknights is not hitting air but otherwise more like fortressknights

[opaque cape]

Miksaparato exists for that

[pseudo flume]

Sentinel Defender Erasure 🥀

[undone portal]

defenderknights vs aerial enemies usually involves heavy duty underflow abuse from what ive seen

[abstract mauve]

basically in the 5 seconds sankta miksa is regaining his barrier, he is healing at a rate of 264. where as normally he'd be healing at a rate of 133. for context gladiia heals herself at a rate of 88 😭
ofc yeah sankta still loses hp but the mod is soo good man

[worldly carbon]

I see sentinels barely do damage

[wraith sentinel]

Hoshiguma is also now there.

[opaque cape]

She isn’t needed but she is comfy

[worldly carbon]

actually there's jessica alter and holy blender

[wraith sentinel]

Asbestos too I think.

[opaque cape]

Medicknights anyone ?

[silver smelt]

medic has mon3tr kalt and kalt2 , theyre fine

[undone portal]

and reedalt/titi

[pine plover]

kid named folinic

[worldly carbon]

I should play nicheknights more...

[steep chasm]

What classknights struggle the most without 6-stars?

[opaque cape]

Medics it seems

[worldly carbon]

medics and vanguards got no damage

[wraith sentinel]

Hibiscus the Purifier.

[abstract mauve]

also i just disagree with all of this other than texalter.
degen mod is kinda wtvr and is focused more on her laneholding ability. doesnt really bring her back into the spotlight.
the 2 is mods look mid as balls

[undone portal]

medicknights with no 6stars is relying on folinic/hibialt for dps 🥀

[wraith sentinel]

Also Vendela, pfft.

[mild yacht]

-# Mob damage, not account

[opaque cape]

Was she ever out of the spotlight ?

[silver smelt]

Yes
she's not been 'meta' for a good amount of time

[undone portal]

had a brief stint as the 2nd best guard behind mlynar

[pseudo flume]

Guards is also kinda cooked since their only healers is Pallas and Doc (Collab)

Surely the Emnities can carry

[undone portal]

idk 5star guardknights functions perfectly fine from what i see

[pine plover]

tbh, typhon IS mod is just mini s3 and that's it

[abstract mauve]

typhon mod just has low dph
idk why they did this

[silver smelt]

typhon is mod is ass

[split bronze]

what does this realigned flux do?

[wraith sentinel]

Utage solos.

[opaque cape]

Aren’t we all playing guard knights atp ?

[pseudo flume]

Restore Sp gen to normal and block some projectiles

[silver smelt]

no?

[wraith sentinel]

Also Ulpianus has his own healing.

[pine plover]

we just need more flying guard

[undone portal]

normal sp regen for ops within, decreased without
some enemies get their projectiles blocked, others chain them along the line

[pseudo flume]

Basically in that event all ops have halved sp gen or worse

[wraith sentinel]

Isn't it just Leizi at the moment? Even if she doesn't fly during Skill.

[pine plover]

Leizi flight is just GTFO of combat

[wraith sentinel]

Maybe next Skyranger, though Specialist.

[silver smelt]

they just give levitate tag to anyone they like

[pine plover]

Skyblade, like soloblade, but flying and not enmity

[worldly carbon]

I just read arkrec for 5* niche and it says "5 star or lower" ok

[undone portal]

if the 6star skyranger doesnt handle aerial stall at least as well as kal'alt i will be deeply upset

[pine plover]

the tag is called Soar

[abstract mauve]

that's how they do the records for thos ye

[wraith sentinel]

PhonoR-0 for low star clears, heh.

[abstract mauve]

unironically phonor is used for this

[worldly carbon]

I just thought 5 star then pull out a 4 star felt illegal

[pine plover]

speaking of which, expanded block area is interesting as it allow you to block melee enemies without taking melee hit

[bright gulch]

in the stronghold mode, how am i supposed to deal with teammates going for the same core alliance as me? just suck it up or attempt to pivot to something else? feels impossible to get anything going with 3 people on kjerag or a 2nd person on laterano, there's just not enough to share...

[wraith sentinel]

The 3* clear for the Ato stage was pretty funny, using the pinballs to redeploy PhonoR-0 immediately.

[undone portal]

phonor0 known 3starknights goat

[opaque cape]

Isn’t low stars basically just stall for comically long periods of time

[undone portal]

this is how they make the next suibling another defender and keep them meta relevant :real:

[pseudo flume]

I mean you can report or just make a private alliance

[pine plover]

nah, I can see this for mostima alter instead

[undone portal]

3starknights 16-12 has to stall bear for like 20minutes iirc

[pine plover]

[silver smelt]

whats wisadel increase from mod1 to mod3

[bright gulch]

why would i report? they're just playing the game

[hardy pasture]

Got it now thanks

[worldly carbon]

as someone who tired 5starknights I quickly realized there's a quite limited number of characters that do damage
now imagine 1-4 stars

[opaque cape]

Maybe a merchant ?

[silver smelt]

.

[silver smelt]

mod1 fine for now then ig

[undone portal]

same chart for s2 if youre curious

[hardy pasture]

Holy crap that mod increase is kinda huge

[silver smelt]

you should see mlynar

[worldly carbon]

flingers in a nutshell

[pine plover]

it's like an extra hit on attack pretty much

[silver smelt]

would you get mod3 exu or mod3 wis first

[blissful island]

when does mlynar get very good?

[worldly carbon]

when you use s3

[undone portal]

id do exu first tbh, less rng on the aoe talent is nice

lv1 wis > lv3 exu > lv3 wis angle perhaps

[silver smelt]

kool

[worldly carbon]

I thought he might want the chart

[undone portal]

actually since youve got kal + nasti could you confirm if you can use kal s3 to reposition her onto the nasti tile

[worldly carbon]

exu2 mod also speeds up her cycle which is already pretty good iirc, great shh

[silver smelt]

let me test later

[hardy pasture]

Is there like a rule to stop at level 60?
Or is it optimal in some way.

[silver smelt]

lv90 not worth and lv60 unlocsk mod

[undone portal]

exu mod is spread out a little more even

[hardy pasture]

Oh I see

[vital kelp]

the new exu2 skin is 27 op???

[undone portal]

2 l2d models + new voicelines, seems fair

[worldly carbon]

amiya skins are cheaper cus she's a 5* then?

[vital kelp]

no entrance animation even 😭

[blissful island]

do I just continue clearing os 7 to clear shop or start doing story (currently at 2-1 or something)

[undone portal]

amiya skin is cheaper cuz no new voice

[worldly carbon]

amiya has new lines on her skin

[pine plover]

[undone portal]

did i forget something

[timber finch]

story in 4 day

[worldly carbon]

she yaps about some lore stuff, I think remember recording it for a friend

[silver smelt]

you cannot

[pine plover]

shurely it wasnt because she is hyper dogshit

[worldly carbon]

but she's my daughter
shush shiyon

[undone portal]

just checked, guardmiyas voicelines are all the same with skin equipped

[blissful island]

is it alright to use the thing that gives 120 sanity?

[timber finch]

it is obligated to use it before it perish
if you do not talk of OP ofc

[blissful island]

tyvm!

[undone portal]

always try to use sanity potions while theres an event running so you can earn event points. get better value out of your sanity

[timber finch]

would it be worth to use a m3 voucher on trag's s3 ?
my options are kinda trag or wang/ch3n/sash2 at this time

[wraith sentinel]

Save it for when you really need an M3 for a stage but don't have the resources.

[undone portal]

id hold onto it for wang, trapmasters care a lot about masteries

[timber finch]

yeah, ill just finish to mod trag/surtr and m3ing surtr s3 and trag s2 then
prob m3 thorns s3 if i find the kohl

[timber finch]

could too, but i don't have other 6* to even think of using it on lol

[wraith sentinel]

-# You might in the future.

[timber finch]

that's why i had included wang/ch3n tbf

[wraith sentinel]

Fair enough.

[timber finch]

currently upgrading what little i have to prep for lapp2 event, and continuing is6 to get that said voucher
might try IS5 after lv 65 to get.. well tin man and a 2nd voucher

[worldly carbon]

you're right I'm just dumb 🤝

[silver smelt]

..what is this?

[timber finch]

a lighthouse ?

[worldly carbon]

a tower for sure

[wraith sentinel]

Some kind of pagoda?

[vital kelp]

its a tower

which changes the time

[worldly carbon]

a pagoda is a type of tower

[timber finch]

a lighthouse is a tower with a lamp isnt it
tho, what that item does?

[worldly carbon]

it doesn't seem to have any use hints or anything
doesn't look like furniture either

[vital kelp]

i havent actually played enough is6 to know

but it translate to awaken a time of sui?

[silver smelt]

oh ok

[vital kelp]

im gonna check prts

yeah basically unlock a map time thingy

well make a time stuff go to last phase thingy

u know the level 1 2 3 stuff that is detrimental and the last level thats beneficial

it goes to the beneficial phase

[vapid breach]

Does guided tour level in IS affect the monthly contract runs? In terms of difficulty and rewards

[vital kelp]

no, monthly squad dont have difficulty

[steep chasm]

Do you guys finish monthly-squad runs, or just rush the objective and get out?

[undone portal]

monthly squad is always set to d0

[undone portal]

finish objective + reach floor5 for the complete lore files

[timber finch]

just a wonder, do thoses stacks

[limpid needle]

I would assume so

[undone portal]

they do

[timber finch]

great

will definitely help my team of 2 defender and 1 medic

[undone portal]

too bad its on floor1 so it barely matters

[timber finch]

true true

[gusty star]

Hello chat i wanna ask
If shu green tile will block prahmanix alt ice tile?

Or those two can stack whit each other?

[worldly carbon]

ori so smart, so helpful

[undone portal]

[worldly fern]

is there a way to activate this custom pointer or is it exclusive to cn?

[undone portal]

they can stack

[gusty star]

Dear god

[undone portal]

you can even get the bluebox summon to heal by sowing the tile

[timber finch]

what's shu's best skill btw, ?

[worldly carbon]

s3
s1 if you like being afk I guess?

[undone portal]

s3 almost always
s1s usable if you need more consistent uptime when youre stuck without another healer to cover for downtime

[gusty star]

Oh so its like narantuya, skill as well?

[undone portal]

how does this relate to naran

[worldly carbon]

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean...

[gusty star]

I see some people use her red spinning skill thing to make blue box able to attack enemy
(Idk the skill name i dont have naraantuya)

[undone portal]

thats entelechia s2

[gusty star]

Oh

[worldly carbon]

that's entelechia and yes frozen blue box entelechia is a thing lol
iirc, tho it shouldn't?

[gusty star]

I see

[worldly carbon]

cus entelechia usually doesn't work on summons

[undone portal]

pramalt bluebox is functionally just a summon
entel s2 does work on summons

[bleak wave]

which one?

[timber finch]

what if no s3 btw
shes currently my 2nd dps ironically in this is6 run

[bleak wave]

gamble for suzuran or saria guaranteed?

[undone portal]

s1 if alone, s2 if youve got someone else to heal

[worldly carbon]

oh wait you're right I'm the most fake entelechia fan ever, I used ng entelechia before
ori so smart

[timber finch]

well then s2 it is

[undone portal]

i would take the guaranteed saria if you dont have her

[bleak wave]

yeh i don't own her

[gusty star]

Then saria guaranteed

[worldly carbon]

shu DPS?

[undone portal]

is6 monthly squad starts you with shu this month, dont worry about it

[timber finch]

the other options aren't better
hoshi 1 - shu 2 by default

[undone portal]

? hoshialts right there
unfortunate that you rolled 3 medic vouchers tho lmao

[gusty star]

Now thats over heal

[timber finch]

hoshialt's the maindps
shu's the 2nd dps

[undone portal]

couldve used one on an incantation medic perhaps

[timber finch]

i've even rerolled the shop and no incantation medic i think in mines

[worldly carbon]

you urgently need some damage bro

[undone portal]

no medicmiya ig thats fair
youll probably survive anyway since its diff0

[timber finch]

im almost on floor 3 lmao

boutta win with the power of love and friendship atp

[worldly carbon]

just outheal them until they give up bro

[timber finch]

with 5 heals that's basically what im doing

[undone portal]

just highroll mask relics surely

[worldly carbon]

if you do that please get shu to e2 asap

[timber finch]

i mean, it is quite a different IS for once

[undone portal]

is6 is so so kind to defenders

[timber finch]

i'd be surprised if i see someone dying

[worldly carbon]

my every IS is different, I do some schizo picks

[gusty star]

I wonder if IS 1 gonna return soon

[undone portal]

gotta keep it fun somehow

[worldly carbon]

I don't think after years we're getting IS1 again

[gusty star]

Speaking of IS, is it recomend to bring lapp alter for puppeteer boss?

[undone portal]

is1 is dead and buried i fear. theyd have to basically design a whole new is unless theyre fine with rerunning something so outdated most of the stages have been repurposed already

[gusty star]

Forgot what ending it is

[undone portal]

is this is2 ed3? shes one of the easier solutions for it i would say

[worldly carbon]

atleast say which IS it is yeah...

[undone portal]

global damage, frd ops. whatever works

[gusty star]

Yeah I kinda need some clearance.
Wait is it still recommended to bring wisadel for is2?

[undone portal]

ye

[worldly carbon]

I...would recommend wisadel to almost any IS I think

[undone portal]

yea wis has something relevant to contribute in every is

nukes shit in 2/4/5, stuns in 3, hitcount in 5/6

[timber finch]

so because of my situation i must ask, is there any 3-4 star dps medic?

[undone portal]

not yet sadly

[worldly carbon]

hoping that we ever get one atleast

[timber finch]

i do too

[undone portal]

4star incantation medic would be so huge for is

imagine an even cheaper medicmiya

[shadow bay]

[undone wren]

Is wang limited unit? Also whos limited in wang banner other than him? Do we have the full banner poll?

[timber finch]

wang is limited, ch3n is with him, suis for other limiteds

[undone portal]

banner rateup is wang/ch'3n
all other suiblings are available

[shadow bay]

cny limited like shu and yu

[undone wren]

Sounds good thanks

[undone portal]

ch'3n enters standard pool after banner ends
-# kinda wild to think about knowing how strong her kit is but i guess thats already happened a few times

[shadow bay]

ull be surprised how mlynar easy to roll on many years ago

[silver smelt]

i mean trag is in the standard pool lol

[undone wren]

How long till wang banner? 4 months?

[worldly carbon]

2-3 months

[gusty star]

Isnt it 3 month each limited interval?

[timber finch]

how good is Breeze compared to like other multi medics in hps ?

[worldly carbon]

breeze sucks ass...
ask ReChord, he made me use her before

[timber finch]

i mean i am forced to use her too basically rn

[shadow bay]

black white abstursity is ed3?

[worldly carbon]

let me actually see if he said something by that time...

[timber finch]

i am considering restarting the run

[wraith shoal]

just do the mission and dip man

[shadow bay]

u love medics arent ya?

[timber finch]

i got only medic vouchers

[undone portal]

pretty ass
only real niche is having an actual aoe heal on s2 so if the map actually lets you get away with bunching everyone up close to each other her hps starts beating out the others

[vagrant bolt]

can i ask here about bilibili cn server? just need account help cause my old phone number got fried so i cant login and change the password or for a new phone number.
anyone know the bilibili email to use to contact?

[wraith shoal]

going till f5 doesnt have any gains outside of lore

[undone portal]

#tech-support might know how to handle this

[worldly carbon]

ReChord said "bro trust me breeze is good! (use s1)"
it sucked ass

[vagrant bolt]

aight ill try to check thanks

[undone portal]

being an medic with zero utility beyond healing kinda kills any relevance for breeze

especially considering the wild utility the other multi medics are allowed to have

[timber finch]

alr, ill replace her with the next medic ill get then
if i get another medic voucher this run i may genuinely ask questions

[worldly carbon]

he also made me use sideroca at the same time so maybe I'm biased

[worldly carbon]

you shouldn't be hoping for another medic tho...
or should you???

[undone portal]

do you have any of the 6star dps medics

[timber finch]

at this point if i can get Reed alter id be quite happy honestly

[undone portal]

unfortunate. pray for kal'stit temp rec at this point

[worldly carbon]

I'd be happy with anything but medic or defender I think

[timber finch]

no no i'd be happy with a defender
i kinda need hoshi e2 rn

[worldly carbon]

is shu's challenge that you can only use defenders and medics?

[timber finch]

no the challenge is to place her 10x

[undone portal]

no this is just a diabolical lowroll

[violet siren]

what month approximately will wang chen3 banner appear in?

[timber finch]

which is an actual challenge since the boss is in 2 round and i placed her 6x

[faint merlin]

I kinda want this skill thing that u get once u reach level 65 in an IS chapter. What do u think is the easiest IS.

[worldly carbon]

in 2-3 months

[undone portal]

is5. its just 5 and 6 that have this voucher

[quick jolt]

sui banners are usually july-august but its not guaranteed

[wraith shoal]

only IS5 and 6 have that

[faint merlin]

Ohh ok alr. Then should i do is 5 or 6

[wraith shoal]

how do you manage to place her only 6 times in so many battles. I managed to place her multiple times per fight

[wraith shoal]

IS5 is the easiest, just use wisadel and lamp cheese

[timber finch]

i don't redeploy my 2nd dps

[worldly carbon]

I should ask ori to do the thing I used to do with ReChord
random 5 star supports and use it in IS

[wraith shoal]

hoshi2 can hold on while you wait to redeploy shu

[timber finch]

tho what's funny is that this run is actually not so bad despite having only medic vouchers

[faint merlin]

Can operators in IS be levelled past what you have them as? Or no

[worldly carbon]

I mean depends what you up against...

[wraith shoal]

only if you get them with a special voucher, then they'll be fully maxed

[timber finch]

the game punished me once, it wont do it twice

[undone portal]

im rechords most diligent student ive been a hung/medicmiya/greyyalt opener enjoyer for a while

[faint merlin]

K ty

[worldly carbon]

might have to teach me the art of 5starknights

[undone portal]

(rechords acc is washed and hasnt beaten ch14 yet so he subs amiya out for astgenne. close enough)

[wraith shoal]

why though

[worldly carbon]

I kept telling him to finish chapters but he never does it
he gets the material he needs then he's out

[undone portal]

busy same reason his base output is dreadful probably

[worldly carbon]

but when he isn't busy he doesn't do it either let's be honest

[violet siren]

is m3ing sash2's s2 worth it? He only gains damage stats and one initial sp and one second longer invis reveal from that

[wraith shoal]

probably no

[timber finch]

it's not, s3 is better

[odd sky]

not really worth

[frigid stream]

I mean you can eventually, its just low prio

[worldly carbon]

sa2 masteries are pretty bad so if you want you can get s3m3 and that's it honestly

[violet siren]

aight, ty

[odd sky]

you guys are missing multiple 5* nicheknights players here
like akhy or xinbra

[worldly carbon]

never heard

[odd sky]

both were help regulars ig

[worldly carbon]

I think I've seen xinbra once in a while but never akhy
I'd like to tho

[lament loom]

I see Arkhy sometimes lol

[formal shadow]

-# Igneus

[odd sky]

he's dead

[spare jetty]

saw xinbra wandering somewhere in akef

[timber finch]

so erm a wonder, what would be zuo le best skill
surprisingly gambling did not give me medics

[odd sky]

3

[odd sky]

wait this is IS?

hope you know how to use him
s2 and s3 is interchangeable

[worldly carbon]

if you get him low enough s3, if you can't get his HP low s2 might not be that bad lol
he also gets 1 block with s2

[timber finch]

i absolutely dont know how, but gambling will teach me the way of this run

[odd sky]

what he said

[timber finch]

might go for s2

[worldly carbon]

I feel like it's more about knowing the enemies and stages instead

[timber finch]

i feel like i will just not use him actually

im gonna facetank the boss with hoshi and leave zuo le watching in the back will be easier

[odd sky]

it's about timing s3 as well
man zuo le is washed, it's not even 2 years yet

[wraith shoal]

and use your * checks notes* 4 healers

[worldly carbon]

s2 is less of a bet if you don't know the stages I guess

[timber finch]

nah i only got 3 in the team now
gambling gave me trag and sash2 :D

[last bridge]

Anyone have images of the next few banners and maybe dates?

I don't recognise names. Images speak better

[odd sky]

rule 5 📌
#game-news

[wraith shoal]

no dates till they're announced, datamines not allowed

[spare jetty]

no dates cus r5

[timber finch]

if i am about to probably kill zuo le, s3 is better right

[last bridge]

So also no images of at least what to expect?

[wraith shoal]

no we know the banners

[worn drift]

U can see what cn got

[odd sky]

can see /cnbanner in #bot-spam

[last bridge]

Oh. That works too. I was hoping but not expecting dates

[worn drift]

But its not guaranteed just for reference only

[last bridge]

I'll do that thn

[broken flame]

I hope they keep Haruka Mon3tr and Ascalon in that orienteering i am pulling

[worldly carbon]

just don't expect him to solo a boss but it should be the better option, especially if you can stun the enemy

[timber finch]

i wanted him to tank about 15 poison puddle

[wraith shoal]

you still havent done the shu mission?

[timber finch]

i did but at this point i am having fun with my 3 medics
im still getting paid by finishing either way

[wraith shoal]

not extra

[timber finch]

aw no score point?

[wraith shoal]

only shu monthly, nothing else

[timber finch]

oh well, might as well finish still now that im so close

[last bridge]

I'm probably gonna go for Nymph and Vulpisfologia

[timber finch]

i wouldnt trust orientings

[last bridge]

Did I chop the name? 😭

[last bridge]

Gotta have a goal. Nymph priority tho

[odd sky]

kinda but we got watchu mean

[timber finch]

Orienting could not have nymph at all

[lament loom]

Question is why u need them

[tight marsh]

Hey guys, which Logos Module is better for overall gameplay?

[last bridge]

They look cute. Well, that and vulp is badass

[odd sky]

delta 3

[lament loom]

Oh kk

[tight marsh]

Who's 100% worth the investment here?

[lament loom]

Lemuen

[proven kelp]

Lemon and Dorothy

[tight marsh]

Any among these guys?

[vivid yew]

1. Should i continue rerolling or am i going to be fine with this?
2. Will Tragodia get a single rate up rerun in the future?

[proven kelp]

Ray
Angelina for IS

[tight marsh]

She's good in IS? Never thought of that.

[hidden wolf]

Pram

[proven kelp]

1. Ideally, I'd reroll for Trag
2. Yes

[lament loom]

Only cuz of Ange with her IS mod

[proven kelp]

She has an IS module, very powerful

[tight marsh]

Oh she has a dedicated module, no wonder why.

Alright, I'll level up Leumen first then maybe Pramanix and then Dorothy, thanks gang.

[frigid sail]

Hey, I wanted to ask for Stronghold Protocol: Alliance, how do you exactly gain "stacks"? I don't think it explained it anywhere (Or I missed it 😅)

[timber finch]

operator / alliance dependant
go read

[glossy schooner]

Read the effects some units get, some are on buy gain stacks, some are based on what happens in their range
Silverash for example has “Gain 1 stack when an enemy is frozen in this units attack range at a 50% chance”
Any others you can read for yourself.

[shadow bay]

this chat want me to read

[glossy schooner]

You read our messages, don’t be a hypocrite

[timber finch]

aegirs all just want to eat people, just play them

[tight marsh]

By the way, what's Leumen's best skill?

[frigid sail]

Thanks! Completely missed it lol.

[glossy schooner]

S3, funny finger guided bomb dropping

[tight marsh]

I seem to have encountered a problem where, I am completely out of Chip Catalysts with no way of getting more.

[glossy schooner]

You’re welcome

[glossy schooner]

Grind red certs

Red certs are 90 per catalyst

[wraith sentinel]

(IS Monthly Squads also have them as rewards if you haven't done them already.)

[glossy schooner]

Yep yep, though that of course is limited, obviously

[wraith sentinel]

Also first-clears from Annihilation Simulations, but even more limited yeah.

[tight marsh]

They're closed, what unconventional method can I use to get more ASAP...

[timber finch]

i believe IS has some in levels, and RA specialised

[tight marsh]

I really don't wanna touch IS again after all that Mizuki stuff, but all for wheelchair girl I guess 😭

[glossy schooner]

Other then first clear annihilations, as bookwhyrm said, IS monthly’s

[glossy schooner]

You only need to get to floor 3 in each monthly

[wraith sentinel]

Monthly Squads are at base difficulty I think so it isn't that hard, plus you only need to get to Floor 3 (at least in IS2).

[tight marsh]

Shu's Sightseers's Scroll is available rn with 1 of them as a reward, so I"ll do that thanks alot.

[wraith sentinel]

All the old ones in old IS iterations are available too.

[glossy schooner]

Every IS has monthly’s so you have plenty to get

[tight marsh]

Noted, thanks.

[severe crypt]

Instakill

[glossy schooner]

Plus you can get the IS monthly’s you missed from this one once the next IS releases

[tight marsh]

Gotta go look back at all of the previous IS's and pray I missed one

By the way, who's arguably the best Operator to start with for almost every Integrated Strategies run?

[silver smelt]

is6? raidian

[tight marsh]

Oh yeah how good is she? I heard people say she's like broken.

[silver smelt]

entire is6 minus bosses are pretty much designed around her

[tight marsh]

Well damn, that's good to know thanks.

[glossy schooner]

To a point where people purposely Ban her usage in their runs to actually make the IS Hard

[silver smelt]

dont worry post dlc2 no bans is hard already

[glossy schooner]

I mean, ED1 is still pretty damn easy

[silver smelt]

...? i guess

[azure pivot]

Myrtle’s module increases block and also the number of enemies hit by centurions and mountain’s s2 etc right?

[untold spire]

Does this work with lapalter s3?

[wraith sentinel]

Yep, max boost is at 6 tiles distance.

[mental gull]

which operators require the most brainpower to use?

[silver smelt]

magallan proly

[random kestrel]

more brainpower to use?
maybe follow ILA way (play 3* and below)

[worldly fern]

when will tragodia have a banner rerun? I already got zuo le and ulpianus and I dont wanna risk it

[lyric lagoon]

later this year in fact

[worldly fern]

and the pity i have in orienteering will carry over to his banner right?

[lyric lagoon]

soft pity will, won’t count towards the exclusive banner pity though

[worldly fern]

I'm tempting to continue pulling for him

[lament loom]

[faint merlin]

guys i might be dumb but i cannot for the life of me understand the IS mode. yall got any videos or docs that might help

[silver smelt]

#is-station pins

[faint merlin]

ty

[jaunty heron]

are there any stronghold protocol guide i can follow

[pale tapir]

#stronghold-hall pins has borrow recs
otherwise read ingame tutorials
or google a youtube video or somethin

[jaunty heron]

thanks

[silver smelt]

what does the symbol do again

[tardy estuary]

hello folks wasnt there a really good caster before paramix alter

[pale tapir]

logos

[silver smelt]

as in banner order ? or just previous units? Logos, maybe

[tardy estuary]

oh yes logos

is he doo doo now? im coming back from the game right after i got exia alter

[pale tapir]

absolutely not lol he's still amazing

[tardy estuary]

did i miss much

[pale tapir]

idk shi about CN ops but seems dp related

[frigid stream]

Never seen that before maybe closure?

[pale tapir]

uhh... a good bit
but at least u have exialt
trag, haruka, hoshi alt, sakichan, sashter, pramerita, CCB4, and RM and VB1

[tardy estuary]

oh right haruka

eh i missed nothing other than haruka then

[pale tapir]

you missed sakichan

[tardy estuary]

who the frick is that

is it the stinkin' collab

[pale tapir]

ave mujica's togawa sakiko

[tardy estuary]

anyways is haruka rerun soon

[azure pivot]

Icebreaker was pretty fun

[pale tapir]

about 8 months from now at the soonest is when I'd expect her to start showing up*
but she won't rerun

[tardy estuary]

whatthe shit

[shadow bay]

and haruka wont have a per se rerun... she will just be tagged along with likes of standard or jo/orient banner

[tardy estuary]

OH RIGHT HER BUM ASS IS WITH ANOTHER CHARACTER

[frigid stream]

hoshi2 was the actual limited

[lament loom]

Lmao

[tardy estuary]

sorry im tryna recover from playing zenless for a year straight

aka tryna recover from playing straight up dogshit for a year straight

[lament loom]

Whats the general conesus on Ave Mujica band (or just Saki) for gen content and other content?

[pale tapir]

awesome, very fun
not better than throwing the top 12 meta ops in a squad tho (obviously)

[lament loom]

Damn, fever fun vs meta

[lime ledge]

does e1 lvl 1 operator have better stats than e0 lvl 50 operator?

[pale tapir]

but for gen content they are competent and fun to play

[azure pivot]

Saki and the Ambusher i think are the most used from what ive seen

[pale tapir]

either u pair sakichan + uika + mutsumi as core for fast fever buildup or do sakichan + umiri core and just use fever when it becomes available
or u can pair all 4

[lament loom]

What skills and mastery for Umiri?

[pale tapir]

I would ask fae for specifics tbh

[silver smelt]

dont u use the dollkeeper mainly

[pale tapir]

if you bring mutsumi u wanna bring uika too so you can fill fever in like 5s when their skills are up
mutsumi s2 uika s1 put mutsu in uika range
let it rip when mutsumi has an enemy in range

[lament loom]

I feel like Umiri and Uika is nice for Saki range extension, and Mutsumi just for dollkeeper block I guess

[pale tapir]

mutsumi is a half decent dps for a 5*

you can use her alone but honestly if you're bringing her you're committing to bandori so why not bring uika to spam fever
if u didn't wanna commit you'd just use sakichan alone

[broken locust]

Hi everyone, Im a new player and I was wondering if its worth pulling on this banner. Id really like to get some of the characters Ive selected, but I only have 9,000 Orundum . Ive already used my 6-10 free pulls on this banner.

Does the 6-star pity carry over to the next one banner to?

[frigid stream]

yes, but don't pull on it

[frigid stream]

besides tragodia, the other 2 units are not good for new players and a 1/3 gamble isn't worth it.

[ancient lintel]

U made the wrong decision with the 6* choices ngl
If it was ulpi trag zuo then you'll have 1 game breaking unit, 1 really good unit and a decent one

[twin bobcat]

I am a returning player, I played arknight for 2 years and quite a year ago

Now am back but aside from story/event i do not know what am supposed to play/do

[broken locust]

Ok

Will this pity carry over to the next limited character banner?
Since there are three banners and the pity carries over, I’d like to know which one it actually carries over to

[ancient lintel]

Play the on going event then
Aka retracing our steps 1101

[silver smelt]

the pity only carries over to standard banners

[frigid stream]

Limited banners don't share pity

[twin bobcat]

Limited banner pity does not carry over
Only standard banner does

[twin bobcat]

I mean i am gonna play whatver event is on rn but events are pretty small
I was more asking about what my endgame was

[frigid stream]

Try playing the other modes like IS or something.

[spare jetty]

IS/RA

[ancient lintel]

Uh you can wait for "veteran-exclusive" events
Like vector breakthrough #2 and CCB #5 or just, ya know, IS A18

[azure pivot]

Got 2 more events before the 6.5 anniv.
Nasti and Titi iirc

[twin bobcat]

IS haven't clicked for me last time i played but i was burnt out from the game then
Ill try getting into it this time

[ancient lintel]

It's the mode that 90% of the playerbase participate in ya

[frigid stream]

Give it another shot, start is is5 or is6.

[azure pivot]

Is5 is the what if stories?

[twin bobcat]

Is IS6 the latest one?

[ancient lintel]

Excluding CN yes
Cause in CN they're about to have IS7

[spare jetty]

in 2 months

[ancient lintel]

8+ months for us

[twin bobcat]

Iirc main reason i couldn't get into IS was because there was a lot of menus and a lot of changes it felt like a different game a bit which was overwhelming

[spare jetty]

please try to adapt

[frigid stream]

once you get past that its pretty good

[twin bobcat]

Ill try

Thanks for the help

[weary geyser]

What is the best strat to use with SA Alter? I feel like im using im wrong. Also are there anyone who works stellar with him? Like someone who maximizes his stuffs?

[coarse notch]

you just put him down and use skill, no secret tech

[turbid ocean]

if you want to think less about it use his S3

more straight forward

[torpid walrus]

Anyone here

Of these who are the 3 best picks

[turbid ocean]

mlynar is easily the best pick

[wraith sentinel]

Mlynar, Mon3tr and third dunno.

[runic willow]

Asca 3rd?

[silent pendant]

mlynar since he's a great universal Fuck You Die button

if you really really lack healing mon3tr for both her buffs and good healing

[turbid ocean]

Mon3tr Ascalon Ray all kind of depend on what your focuses are
and what other modern ops you own that we can't deduce from this screenshot alone