help

[frank moss]

ow yeah i didnt scroll to the bottom, thanks

[dusty vortex]

I see, so among DP generators which ones were I can get easily are worth investing aside from myrtle

[proven kelp]

Check for Side Story list, use Sheet find and look for the event name or code name

[humble arrow]

just use myrtle

[dusty vortex]

I see only myrtle

[humble arrow]

because shes the only good 4 star and below vanguard

it depends on what you define as good

[ornate sable]

I am thankful for Potato for recommending me Kyostin. but how in the world should I follow the step of a dude who brought Ulpianus2

[vital kelp]

borrow

[median fable]

borrow one yourself

[ornate sable]

He out already?

[glossy schooner]

Ulpianus2?
Also borrowing Ops exists

[median fable]

ulpianus2? No
ulapianus? yes

[ornate sable]

With support ops. My units still weak

[hardy gate]

where can I find Arknights character UID?

[ornate sable]

check the friend menu in game

[knotty wave]

in your main menu, you can see your Lvl and IGN. Below that is your UID...the same one you use for filling up survey

[ember gyro]

How much damage does the avalanche do?

[urban sleet]

5k true dmg if no deployablr tile whe shifted, 750 true dmg otherwise

[ember gyro]

ty

[nimble kite]

5k True to enemies always btw.

[white iron]

how long does it takes for limited banner to usually have their reruns or even orienteering banner ? ty in advence

[urban sleet]

Limited banners dont rerun, the limited becomes sparkable after 1 year
Orienteering/Joint ops for theit standard counterpart is dependent on yostar's whims (not hg since those two banners are subject to changes in global)

[white iron]

tyty

[frozen dawn]

how does the logos's training skill work?

[proven kelp]

If he's training for atleast 5 hours, the next time he trains that operator, the duration gets reduced by half

That cut in duration is perma, so even if you change him the duration is kept

[frozen dawn]

oh alr
thanks

[odd sky]

must end and start training with him, don't change him before you cut it in half

[quick jolt]

essentially just
train entire m1 with logos > train entire m2 with logos > start m3 with logos, and swap to a stronger boost after the timer is halved

[sacred fossil]

Now that the banner is over, and I didnt get PramAlt. Which operator should I go for?

[quick jolt]

probably logos

[robust arch]

is it too early fir first impressions on kal closure and viy

[pseudo flume]

Needs more testing

[opaque remnant]

logos/asc is a good choice, ines as well

[haughty holly]

Probs either logos or Ines

[vital kelp]

im p sure thats against rule 5 to say

[haughty holly]

asc u can always swift borrow

[opaque remnant]

Meh, pretty sure it’s fine as long as you don’t mention specific dates

[haughty holly]

Logos and Ines has been in gold cert since a couple months right

[calm raptor]

Is it a good idea to save op exclusively for skins?

[lethal sundial]

Idk how much you got

[shadow bay]

yes coz u can only buy skins using and real money for some cases

[calm raptor]

Uhhh 0

[odd sky]

you generally only convert when you pull anyway

[shadow bay]

but then again skins are subjective cases... so if u rly care about skins then u know what to do with those shiny rocks

[calm raptor]

Icic thanks yall.

[haughty holly]

Pulling tends to dig to your op especially limited banners but eh

[vital kelp]

uh, no? most of ur pull should be orundumb unless ur new or whale

[balmy panther]

is ch17 out yet?

[severe crypt]

I thought it was cuz a guy literally asked if closure was good an hour ago
With a pic of said closure he pulled

[urban sleet]

Ch 17 boss has qtes
Afkslop cult in shambles

[delicate locust]

are there any resources or guides for protocol stronghold

[urban sleet]

It is indeed, cas already doing masteries on his kalter

[opaque remnant]

Depends if you like them enough to not use them for pulls

[urban sleet]

#stronghold-hall can help

[opaque remnant]

What?

[delicate locust]

ive been there for a couple days already painfully

[sacred fossil]

So there’s high chance logos/ines would come in via yellow cert in the next few months?

[urban sleet]

Logos uh later this year ig, ines depends on yostar's whims

[opaque remnant]

logos should come this year

[lyric lagoon]

for ines, we don't know
logos, later this year but not "in a few months"

[urban sleet]

Something timed events, basically you need to make a decision in few seconds

[lyric lagoon]

quick time events

[sacred fossil]

I guess it’s either of them since the permit only going to last another 2 months

[opaque remnant]

ah shit

pause abuse it is

is it affected by the speed modifier or no

[urban sleet]

Ask #cn-lounge

Tho I would assume yes

[lyric lagoon]

atp we might get to see amiya boss but in main story with how we fighting the entire family

[delicate locust]

pause dont say any more i dont wanna hear spoilers

[grizzled galleon]

When can we start ask if we should pull the new chars here?

[lyric lagoon]

wait a few more days

[grizzled galleon]

Aight

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh when they actually come to en

Cause we still dont know whats after

Espically when The units are utility focused instead of beeg damage

[lyric lagoon]

well, s2 ain't half bad

[urban sleet]

Surely closure will find some niche usecases

[lyric lagoon]

kalter can heal mon3tr btw (summon not operator), truly peak

[urban sleet]

Yr ppl said she cam heal hoshi2 through red hp

[split sphinx]

Hg hating if they not t0 must pulls

[lofty vale]

What’s the meta Strat for stronghold?

[vital kelp]

is this a bug or

[wild cedar]

Read, play

[lofty vale]

I’m EN

[fallow delta]

does anyone know where i can buy the kal’tsit plush

[vital kelp]

china

[lofty vale]

[silver smelt]

read

[lofty vale]

[vital kelp]

china is usually where they get merch

u can check yostar shop but i doubt its gonna be there(and u wait 6 month)

[lofty vale]

Apparently Closure is really strong as a vanguard, probably a lot higher dp gen than our current vanguards cus of the refund mechanic
She’s perma too so no limited fomo

[wild cedar]

Ok there is no way to sum this in less than 3000 words

[severe crypt]

Rush lvl 6
Pray your teammates aren’t ass

[wild cedar]

Observe how good players play then

[wild cedar]

[severe crypt]

It’s honestly much easier than original stronghold but it could just be MP making it easier

[lofty vale]

I don’t exactly know what am I supposed to look for at level 6
The easiest looks like just Laterano spam?

[vital kelp]

[delicate locust]

like who cuz lowkey i havent seen anything on my yt feed

[vital kelp]

best way to play stronghold is to go to jp server and get carried by experienced cn SP addicts who invaded jp server to play SP after it ended for cn

[lofty vale]

[severe crypt]

Then again I haven’t touched dire
But I haven’t necessarily had the absolute bottom of the barrel teammates yet

[wild cedar]

Might have to navigate bilibili then

[vital kelp]

thats the meta strat ig, they always win and the one who doesnt get a damage announcement is japanese

[delicate locust]

nah bro dire is a different world compared to perilous, you dont know the horror

[fallow delta]

no like the one with stringy legs

[lofty vale]

I played solo just now on medium difficulty and lost cus I didn’t do enough damage to the boss
He just bled my life to zero from full

[lyric lagoon]

dunno, but it is an interaction (dunno if she can heal other enmities or not)

[vital kelp]

they got a bunch of kal ones, can u send image

[urban sleet]

Infinite rma in shop now
And a new black and red mat

[delicate locust]

i swear either you overwhelmingly win from good strategy AND rng or you lose miserably

[vital kelp]

i dont actually remember one with stringy legs

[severe crypt]

I’m gonna assume y’all are playing dire right

[fallow delta]

cant find it now

[vital kelp]

with this chapter of SP u can get infinite money with some hacks

uhhh find guide on bilibili

[delicate locust]

dire or nothing

[lyric lagoon]

it's prob related to how kaltsit og prios mon3tr the operator alongside mon3tr the summon

[wild cedar]

Idk, watch this? https://b23.tv/TGhIxSa

[worn drift]

if I maxed out my lvl in IS6, is there any more reward for doing higher diff or different ending?

[silver smelt]

no

[worn drift]

time to grind older IS then

[flint fjord]

i am losing my mind. i cannot clear OS-7 with any guides. it's like the avalanche isnt working same way for me as it is in the guides. i've seen those Fluffy Snowball enemies not get pushed by avalanche even.

[worn drift]

send ur rooster

[flint fjord]

gonna be honest, i'm just trying any roster guides on youtube tell me to use. Kyostin low star, Ecko, mr gotcha, i've tried all their guides but enemy behaviour differs in mine

[coarse notch]

doing something wrong, rewatch them and see why they brought each operator

dont just copy their roster

[severe crypt]

And see if you have better alternatives for their choices

If they use hibiscus, this just means that anyone better than hibiscus works equally fine if not much better

[worn drift]

is there a place where I can see total reward for each IS?
which IS should I do after IS6?

[flint fjord]

i'm placing units in the same timeframe imo. i get that i'm not smart enough for this game to come up with solutions to these maps, but sheesh this os7 seems tightly timed.

[lethal sundial]

Does the mutated cells equipment in stronghold allience disappear after use?

[kindred root]

the mushrooms block the avalanche in their lane

[vital kelp]

try bilibili guides

[flint fjord]

OH.

[coarse notch]

[flint fjord]

time to try again i guess

[kindred root]

os7 quite literally clears itself if you kill them

[crimson elbow]

Which 6s i should e2 first

[kindred root]

trag hoshi pram

[crimson elbow]

How about surtr?

[worn drift]

low priority

[kindred root]

mid compared to those 3

[crimson elbow]

Btw is skadi good?

[kindred root]

every 6 star you have except for those 3 (and mantra) is either old welfare or niche

they will function but are not nearly as effective as recent meta ops

[raven ermine]

Hoshi2 > surtr > pram > trag
You don't gain much from e2 ing pram and tragodia outside of module and masteries, and you shouldn't consider those before being done with your e2s
Hoshi2 and surtr both want s3 pretty badly

[wicked yoke]

Fellas should i replace Perfumer with Nightingale/Quercus/Heidi?

[raven ermine]

Like sure, they're the better units overall, but they're not the thing that will add the most value to your roster currently

[proven kelp]

I'd just e2 Pram2 then give her mastery
Let her solo the map

[wild cedar]

It doesn’t disappear

[shadow bay]

ng only bought out when stage arts heavy so u need her res buff
quercus can be fine, but rly just stick to normal medic... she sit 40 sec before she heal(but she is good healer).. and well she need quite resources

and heidi is questionable

[civic drum]

is the best way to get chip catalyst farming the red certificates?

[shadow bay]

yeh

theres other sources like monthly squad in IS and RA
theres also one time reward in annihilations

[civic drum]

okay thanks

[rocky pilot]

One word
Too old

[wicked yoke]

Noted, I'm guessing Shining is also not worth the investment?

[crimson elbow]

[shadow bay]

ehh not rly... she expensive to raise for being 6 star
and her niche is not rly appreciated...

[raven ermine]

I mean, mastery only shaves 7s of warmup and add +30% scale, it's not a lot
Raw stats are good sure, but i'd value a full unit higher than this
E2ing is also cheaper if you don't take into account the m3 ticket from IS, which i doubt they would farm

[wicked yoke]

I see, damn so the only good medics i have are Perfumer and Reed alter 😭

[raven ermine]

If they're willing to farm for the ticket, i can see a pram first angle

[robust pond]

What does bard support do?

[raven ermine]

sussuro, purestream ?

[shadow bay]

u dont have likes of silence/ptilopsis/sussuro?

[raven ermine]

Inspiration you mean ?

[wicked yoke]

Neither have potential unfortunately and i sorta havent invested anything into them

[wicked yoke]

I should have a Silence hanging around

[shadow bay]

for note though, ng is appreciated for her res buff niche... but as a general healer uhh i dunno she just suck i even feel perf healing on practice (she rly help though when let say talulah stage. although low bar nowadays methink)

and quercus is still the humble healer outside medic u can use if u somehow find urself not having haruka...

but ofc for simplicity just use a normal medic... silence, ptilo, sus, pure and perf are the notables

[raven ermine]

You don't need potentials, and you're bound to get them eventually, they're 4*
If you have silence, use silence
If you don't, sussuro is good for single target, purestream too, and better if you plan to invest later, she's useful in IS, and her numbers with e2 s2 mod3 are very good

[flint fjord]

thanks for the tips yall, os7 is down.

[wicked yoke]

Also thought I would get some but 200 pulls on Silverash later i dont, also noted, I'll try to cram silence in somewhere

[wicked yoke]

Fair enough, no point in fixing something that isnt broken

[raven ermine]

For the record, quercus is only a cope option if you miss medic tickets multiple times in a row in IS

[shadow bay]

cant believe though a quercus powercreep has come

and silence alter still taking L

[twilit swallow]

When will Yu module release in global

[raven ermine]

Should be wang banner

[wicked yoke]

Ngl IS is kinda giving me an aneurysm, so i'm steering clear until i figure out how to make correct decisions instead of praying that Pram alter freezes the blue

[somber delta]

can someone test how texas2 new module peform compare to the first one?

[raven ermine]

Sure, go through it slowly, you'll learn a bit more each run
Don't consider niche options like quercus until you plan to seriously climb difficulties anyway

[somber delta]

ngl i really like how they make her module, it buffs her skills, wish more ops do this tbh

[wicked yoke]

Wait it gets harder? Long road ahead huh

[raven ermine]

Yeah it'll slowly add modifiers each difficulty, up to d15 currently
The curve is pretty slow until the d13-15 benchmark i would say
Take your time, the mode leans heavily on you making mistakes and learning from it

[coarse notch]

new mod is better
the module could literally make her lose stats and it'd be better because of the trait buff

[shadow bay]

something something difficulty scaling means more enemy stat buff, and well some gimmicks that can hinder ur usual set up and may need workarounds or sheer luck

[spare jetty]

not so long ngl

[nocturne laurel]

heal allies that are normally unhealable and increase base stats based on the active skill

[shadow bay]

imagine bard linked to healing enmities

[somber delta]

is it worth maxed tho, if already maxed the first one. assuming there's no other ops module to prio

[nocturne laurel]

i use thorns2 to do dat

[raven ermine]

Inspiration is not base stats tho, it's applied at the end of the calculation formula
It's a flat buff

[shadow bay]

but yeh bard mostly used for inspiration buff

and it depends per skill... some inspiration do atk, hp... yada yada... but commonly used were atk buff

[wicked yoke]

I see, I'll stick to the easier modes then

[wicked yoke]

You'd be surprised

[spare jetty]

not surprised after all

[nocturne laurel]

that's what it says in the game 😔

[wicked yoke]

You overestimate my competence

[delicate locust]

what masteries should lin get

[raven ermine]

Might be just me nitpicking the wording then, but the game is known to be misleading

[spare jetty]

sounds like ur very interested in IS

[raven ermine]

s3m3 modx3 if you plan to use her

[shadow bay]

s3

u want her mod3 that give her more sp gain chance though

[coarse notch]

if you use her a lot mod3 is pretty good, but otherwise mod1 is enough due to her lacking relevance for it

[spare jetty]

check #is-station pins and be sure to join isc

[somber delta]

does necrosis dot proc the bear in is2 global attack?

[wicked yoke]

I would like to be able to actually play it decently well someday, but i dont really consider it a high priority mainly due to my skill issue

[hidden wolf]

Does this reset

[ivory terrace]

they only add stock every rerun
never true reset

[raven ermine]

It does not reset, but they add 2k orundum and mats every rerun yeah

[spare jetty]

skill issues isn't a real issue
just learn!

adapt

[raven ermine]

Roster issue can be a real issue, especially in higher diffs tho

[fallow delta]

what do i get here

returning player idk the meta rn

[untold turtle]

can i ask for mastery/module prios for these units

[wicked yoke]

I will eventually, which starting squad do you recommend? I usually go for caster, medic, defender

[spare jetty]

depends on which IS

[ivory terrace]

u wanna sort by rarity instead
idk if u wanna gamba ng

[wicked yoke]

Sui's garden, also wdym which?

[raven ermine]

Do you play/plan to play a lot of IS ?

[spare jetty]

theres 5 different IS themes and each one is quite different in meta

[fallow delta]

suuuuuure…

[nocturne laurel]

gamba for archetto...

[fallow delta]

what to pick for her

[nocturne laurel]

sniper but its unlikely

[ivory terrace]

just sniper
it's like 1/4 or worse tho

[raven ermine]

They don't have chetto core drafts tho

[wicked yoke]

I see, the road gets longer huh

[somber delta]

hoshi/sakiko

[raven ermine]

and i didn't see the kaltsit initially

[spare jetty]

check #is-station pins for progression guide for is6

i mostly run exu2 start

[fallow delta]

[raven ermine]

Well, one more bench warmer, it is what it is

[wicked yoke]

Aight, thanks

[shadow bay]

deym must be nice to get rosa 🥹

[raven ermine]

e2 pram > e2 dorothy > e2 sash > e2 haruka
Saki mod2+ > hoshi mod2+ > pram2 mod2 > haruka mod1 > doro mody1 (or modx3 if you plan to invest more into it)

[untold turtle]

wait dorothy is good?

[white kraken]

Is s3 suzu's main skill and when do I use her? I don't think I've ever used her since I M3ed her

[raven ermine]

Dorothy is pretty good
She'll be niche when you'll get access to better units, but your roster can definitely benefit from her currently
Also underestimated a fair amount by players who never used her

[untold turtle]

thats not my full roster btw thats just the ops i dont have lvled

[raven ermine]

Suzu is basically CC jailed for the most part, but yes, s3 is her main skill
Good to enable your damage dealers with fragile and slow

[nocturne laurel]

yeah, normally used to skyrocket physical dps and stall bosses but normally your usual wis or exu2 is enough

[raven ermine]

She's still good, but then she's more of a niche option for bind stalling/slow with s2/s3 respectively
Overall a good unit, but you might not need her

[real wedge]

if I only can upgrade one op to elite 2, which one of these 3 should I upgrade first (silverash alter, pramanix alter, or tragodia)?

[raven ermine]

prama

[fallow delta]

has irene always had 2 modules?

[alpine lance]

stainless has damage reduction? Which part of his kit is that again?

[real wedge]

alright, tysmm

[raven ermine]

No, they released modx with dunmeshi collab iirc
She'll get an IS module soon-ish too

[slim tusk]

s3 turret

[fallow delta]

is the ration module better than the third one

[shadow bay]

yeh do pram alt

although for usability if u want e1 tragodia first

[hidden wolf]

Getting my ass kicked in os-s-5

[real wedge]

yess, all of those 3 have e1 and I only have enough exp to upgrade 1 op to elite 2 haha. Tysmm for ur suggestionn

[raven ermine]

No, just wait for the IS module, it's very cheap, and mody isn't good enough to warrant switching from modx to it, even if it performs better
Well it is good, but more like, irene isn't worth sinking 27 mod blocks into

[fallow delta]

irene meta soon 👀

[radiant fog]

How good is closure and kal sit alter?

[abstract mauve]

mmmmmmmm. irene usable soon

[alpine lance]

it says in here 20% on the turret, yet tomimi says 36%, I'm sill missing something?

[quick jolt]

wait like a week lol

[slim tusk]

can stack 2 multi

[fallow delta]

irene will powercreep degenbrecher i believe in the dream

[abstract mauve]

i'd say kaltsit is pretty good. ig better to wait for people to figure out more uses for her but outside IS, i think she's easily the best true damage dealer

[alpine lance]

woh! thx!!

[raven ermine]

Fuck that fraud degen, bring back my yapper

[quick jolt]

but tbh they look decent at most. not anything gamebreaking or meta

[ivory terrace]

did irene get alpha mod
how salvagable was that

[abstract mauve]

im pretty sure kaltsit will be meta mainly cuz the bar for medics is quite low

[ivory terrace]

true damage at e1 copium

[abstract mauve]

is6 ammo relics

[static glade]

Who needs an actual medic when you got Haruka carrying healers tbf and medics do side stuff like flying 🥹

[frozen dawn]

do we have a general idea of how good the two are or is it too early?

[lament loom]

What about Mon3tr?

[abstract mauve]

too early as always. first impressions kal2 is nice

[raven ermine]

Because supporter ticket is already pretty heavy rn

[frozen dawn]

oh i see

[static glade]

Ah ok

[abstract mauve]

1. kal2 is aoe instead of multi target. 2. kal2 is always in take-off so barely anything can even damage her 3. kal2 has a perma-slow on-skill

[shadow bay]

new true dmg queen???

[frozen dawn]

lowkey i am very worried about kal2 s2 targeting mechanics

[abstract mauve]

wdym

[pure coral]

I’m kinda saddened at the fact that Closure isn’t much

[hidden wolf]

Logos delta mod right

[abstract mauve]

i havent tested closure so idk how she fares. literally no one on my friends list built her but at least 4 built kal2

[shy quiver]

What 6* should I wait for in the yellow cert shop?

[lament loom]

Oh wait, it's Kal2 we are talking about. That's... very interesting, I'm excited

[hidden wolf]

Which one for logos

[frozen dawn]

suppose theres an enemy in front but not quite in range of other units and the said units are low on health. who does she target on s2?

[rocky pilot]

Ima check back when got enough info on closure

[coarse notch]

delta

[abstract mauve]

im not sure what you mean? she targets enemies first then allies
for enemies it's normal (closest to blue box) targeting

[frozen dawn]

so if the allies are on the verge of dying, she would still target enemies first?

[vital kelp]

if theres no enemy in kal range does she not heal

[rocky pilot]

Wait a minute is the second stronghold still happening in cn or already ended

[vital kelp]

already ended

thats why they invading jp

[abstract mauve]

if no enemy in range, she has same prio as healer ye

stronghold addicts holy

[frozen dawn]

what if theres exu alter in her range? will she exaust all her ammo on healing her?

[vital kelp]

yyyyeah if u open a SP game rn in jp server u'd see chinese names

[abstract mauve]

if no enemies in range. and after kal2 talent (50 hp/s for 30s) on exu2 ends.

[frozen dawn]

alr thanks

[rocky pilot]

Right how hard is the upcoming vector breakthrough gonna be
Ima just get greyy skin and hop off

[alpine lance]

Does stainless S3 turret damage reduction (2 turrets) stack multiplicatively with Vina's 28% physical damage reduction or does the game just take the highest value?

[robust thistle]

Isnt next vector just blaze+wang

[ivory terrace]

multiplicatively
if it does not say sanctuary on any of them then they can stack on top of each other

[alpine lance]

I thought it's worked like sancutary, ye that's nice

[robust thistle]

Fragile buff

[pure coral]

One good thing is her s2 allowing u to print huge amounts of dp with Exu2 and Mudrock redeploy

[polar hollow]

hi logos is a better trainer than the 30% training speed boosting ones right?

[ivory terrace]

only because of the 50% jumpstart after having done 5h at e2

[vivid yew]

Is this good enough or should i aim for Tragodia instead? I read that Ulpianus will be available to buy with cert this year

[robust thistle]

Tragodia is ideal

[silver smelt]

its good enogh

[ivory terrace]

how many pulls did u get for 2 6*

[vivid yew]

7

[ivory terrace]

then ye can prob keep
trag has a solo banner rerun later on

[lofty vale]

The sp refund from Closure is just straight up strong you don’t need gimmicks
She’s probably the best dp generator we have
And on top of that she has damage reduction to allies in range
She doesn’t have anti stealth utility like Ines and Sash ofc
She’s also not limited so that’s nice

[silver smelt]

do u have a question

[ivory terrace]

write it down

[vivid yew]

Tragodia + Ulpianus is ideal reroll right? I know the chance is abysmal

[robust thistle]

Just tragodia is fine really

[ivory terrace]

getting 2 unique 6* from orienteering is alrdy lucky enough as it is

[lofty vale]

Don’t ruin the game for yourself by rerolling that hard
The game isn’t nearly hard enough to justify it
They’re all standard banner units you can get eventually

Tragodia also eventually makes his way into the cert shop

[sacred cave]

This is very good, just start saving for wang and you can get trag later

[ivory terrace]

next year anyway

check back in like summer period, we'll see if CN next summer limited is bad enough to consider trag rerun

[lethal sundial]

Is lumen a good healer?

[lofty vale]

The Ulpianus start is already more than fine
You also get a free Gladiia to pair with him and you should be able to clear much all content anyways

[robust thistle]

Lumen is an ok healer

You should be starting with silence+ptilo anyways so theres little reason to raise lumen

And if you want the range, purestream is free

[lofty vale]

I remember he used to be great cus he could cure stuns

[robust thistle]

Thats people coping

[ivory terrace]

how many of them even matters now

[lofty vale]

I mean he’s free
But yea back then it was just Ptilopsis and Warfarin being healers that mattered

[robust thistle]

Turns out you can solve most stuns just by sandwiching enemies

[silver smelt]

He's not free

[lofty vale]

Lumen isn’t free?

[ivory terrace]

define free

[silver smelt]

I wish you could get 700k lmd for free

[lofty vale]

Well I have him I thought he was a welfare

[abstract mauve]

welfare doesnt mean free

[silver smelt]

yes hes free im just making a point of his terrible value proposition

[lofty vale]

Meh you don’t need E2 lvl90 or whatever

[abstract mauve]

e2 lvl 60 for mod lvl1

[silver smelt]

bro who said anything about l90

[vale finch]

For maleknights, is there a better healer than lumen?

[abstract mauve]

wang 🤫

[robust thistle]

I mean, cant be that hard if your competition are like ansel chestnut and harold

[ivory terrace]

bassline

[robust thistle]

Theres recordkeepr but hes kinds cheeks
Nowell is fine ig?

[coarse notch]

the existence of status effects like stuns actually contraindicates lumen because it bricks his healing

[robust thistle]

Nowell probably does lumen's job better

[frozen dawn]

just nuke the enemy. no heal nedded

[abstract mauve]

damn losing to purestream sidegrade kinda crazy

[coarse notch]

nowell known izumik technology

[robust thistle]

Do you use his S2 before the stun

[coarse notch]

also that random chain medic, ukusik or something?

[abstract mauve]

ye

[robust thistle]

Ukusik sounds interesting

Camo prevents stun yeah?

[abstract mauve]

heavyrain but with fastery cycle and a way easier restriction to meet

[polar hollow]

hi sakiko s2 can pierce through infinite enemies as long as the projectile lifespan doesn't run out right?

[abstract mauve]

can it?

[silver smelt]

is this a poll?

[gaunt mica]

who should I get from the store? Nearl Radiant knight, rosmontis, or OG W ?

[robust thistle]

It has a limit?

[polar hollow]

idk I just saw it piercing through 5 slugs in IS-6 so 🤷

[frozen dawn]

ros if u play IS

[abstract mauve]

3 enemies ye
it says on the skill

[eternal pawn]

I already s1m3 s2m3 SA alt because of preference, should I s3m3 as well?

How often would I find myself using SA alt s3 over s2 and s1?

[polar hollow]

oh okay cools

[robust thistle]

Huh does it?

[abstract mauve]

wait it doesnt say the limit

[coarse notch]

you use s3 most of the time tbh

[ivory terrace]

where tho

[eternal pawn]

Huh, I see

[cursive maple]

which kal mod better for general? also level

[abstract mauve]

uhh it should be 3 tho

[static glade]

Stages with early hordes

[lofty vale]

Very often you’ll use s3
It’s the “easiest” to use
Still yet to see which is more relevant for CC and stuff but for general use we use s3

[coarse notch]

panacea3 is the best one but just use alpha mod3 for the stats

[silver smelt]

no, you will be using S2 most often
S3 is the one you use in hard content , so far 2 usages in max risk hcm

[eternal pawn]

Cool, I'll s3m3 then.
Thanks

[formal shadow]

anyone have any thoughts on ch17 ops applications

[coarse notch]

yea, protects against acid in phase 2 but does not protect against the explosion in phase 1

[lofty vale]

I’ve been using S3 most often so

[silver smelt]

have you considered that you're wrong

[slender temple]

Who's the best male sniper considering there's none that's 6*

[robust thistle]

They got released for like less than 12h, wait at least a week

[abstract mauve]

kal2 is very safe true damage that also slows. also first proper true damage aoe dps
actual applications is uhhhh

[static glade]

Uhhh totter?

[robust thistle]

For now we only got silveranus slop ^2 for kalter

[lofty vale]

Kal s3>s2

[shadow bay]

oh yeh i think ive seen ed2 alter in is6

does other endings also have alter ver?

[coarse notch]

have you seen kal2's s3 cycle bro

[silver smelt]

honestly s2 doesnt look that strong but that's juts me

[robust thistle]

All endings have an alter, except e4 and e5 iirc

[coarse notch]

kal2 in general is kinda underwhelming so

[silver smelt]

there's alter versions, and then theres the alter version when you take Ed4 relic, namely Ed1a and Ed2a
i'm not aware of regular ed2 variations

[abstract mauve]

it's not particularly strong ig? but the idea that you can put her anywhere on the map and do that damage and slow i think has its merits

[shadow bay]

i see would note on that tnx...

[shadow bay]

ahh im about to ask if its rng or encounter related like is5

but seems like relic related coz of ed4?

[robust thistle]

Huh, the e4 relic has a different alter boss?

[abstract mauve]

like it's not particularly strong compared to wang trag exu2 etc. but she's still strong in general

[silver smelt]

Her s3 looks niche but situationally pretty good. Global range

[honest robin]

Where can I see which operators will be given out for free in the future? Including selectors, 4*, 5* and 6*, as well as event operators

[coarse notch]

i think making her s2 targeting not cancerous and shaving maybe 5-10 sp off s3 would make her feel a lot better

[silver smelt]

taking ed4 pathing changes ed1 and ed2

[silver smelt]

Ed1 also has enemy variations juts by its own

[robust thistle]

No I mean nornal e1-2 alter is different from the e4 relic one?

[abstract mauve]

what's wrong with s2 targeting?

[silver smelt]

Ed1 has different enemies, like sharpedges/etc
im not aware of normal ed2 variations

[alpine lance]

So in theory, if I use Stainless, Haruka, Vina and Theresa to buff someone againts patriot, we can have 1 - (1-0.36)*(1-0.3)*(1-0.28)*(1-0.15) = 72.58% afk perma damage reduction?

[shadow bay]

oh yeh i have ed4 relic but back of due to... i dunno playing safe...

so does it mean i need to fully meet ed4 requirement to have ed1 alter alter??? coz atm i see ed1 normal stage

[robust thistle]

Ya ik it has enemy variations but I'm talking about general layout

[lofty vale]

Btw Wangs banner sold pretty badly compared to banners like exu2 and sash2
Seems like people in CN don’t really appreciate power creep and they might be toning it down

[silver smelt]

ah yeah ed4 changes the layout

[coarse notch]

no idea where you're getting this from

[frozen dawn]

whats the source tho

[formal shadow]

check wiki.gg welfare section & event sections. if that fails check prts.wiki same place

[silver smelt]

do you have a question? also the cn people are a bunch of sloppers, exu2 was insanely huge powercreep. they appreciated that one though?

[coarse notch]

and no, sensortower is an absolutely dogshit source

[lofty vale]

I mean wang in Particular is very lazy

[lunar orbit]

lv1 - Additional trait: Attack range +1 (Some skills are not affected by this [1]) [ +60 hp , + 50 def ]
lv2 - Update to the Talent [Shielding Farewell Ritual] If you do not actively attack within 5 seconds, you gain a shield equal to 15% of your maximum health; the timer resets when the shield is lost; while you have a shield from this ability, your attack power is increased by 8%. [ +68 hp , +57 def ]
lv3 - Update to the Talent [Shielding Farewell Ritual] If you do not actively attack within 5 seconds, you gain a shield equal to 20% of your maximum health; the timer resets when the shield is lost. While you have a shield from this ability, your attack power is increased by 15%. [ +74 hp , +63 def]

friend sent sankta y mod.
is this better than x ?

[silver smelt]

wis'adel is way lazier

[coarse notch]

mind giving a source for your claims tho

[lofty vale]

You can come up with any source of revenue and you’ll be labelled as either inaccurate or going to be slapped by a lawyer

[silver smelt]

so you dont have any source

[robust thistle]

Invis reveal sounds a lot better than whatever statstick this is
Also dont send text walls on easily found information

[coarse notch]

? sounds like you're using sensortower
its been routinely pointed out that its extremely inaccurate

[lunar orbit]

okie

[safe tundra]

🐘

[coarse notch]

it only purpose of sensortower is for gambling addicts to pvp each other over who's getting screwed over more

[formal shadow]

shield talent feels like it's for s3 while stats are tailored for s2

[lofty vale]

Comparing banner to banner is fine since you dont need the exact numbers

[coarse notch]

s2 works fine as is but i dislike the fringe cases with scratch damage and enemy prioritization
have her only consume bullets against enemies or do some kind of balance between hitting enemies and healing low health allies

[silver smelt]

"look, my gacha game just had an anni banner while yours is in a dead patch rn, clearly my game > your game"

[silver smelt]

I haven't had too much trouble with this but the damage isn't much to write home about either tbh

[lofty vale]

Number of Bili videos of wang compared to other limiteds is also very low

[formal shadow]

any thoughts on viy

[silver smelt]

if you want true damage i'd still prefer Mon3tr unless you just have a huge swath of very bulky mobs

[robust thistle]

Why are we saying these anecdotes on wang banrr again
Does it matter if he has low sales

[coarse notch]

nope, its been pretty consistently unreliable even before platforms started shifting towards other topup sources

[silver smelt]

Again, do you have a fucking question?

[robust thistle]

Does his scaling get lowered if he has low banner sales?

[coarse notch]

they change their methodology every second week

[lofty vale]

Might be an indication of how they will handle power creep if he’s received badly

[silver smelt]

why not speculate somewhere else

[robust thistle]

We dont care really

[formal shadow]

every 10000 yuan spent is 1% stat increase

[silver smelt]

close enough welcome back swire the elegant wit

[robust thistle]

Chalter got terrible reception, then they released mlynar
Wow

[coarse notch]

welcome back? she never left

[ivory terrace]

does it matter
if ch17 banner doesn't sell from vibes we got problems

[silver smelt]

"kaltstit alter" and "doesnt sell" sure man

[coarse notch]

we've been through at least 7-8 "end of the game" powercreep complaints
always the most annoying complainers

[silver smelt]

i mean that aside, ....do you have a question or r you derailing help for fun

[safe tundra]

hey guys

[robust thistle]

Last time I checked, anyone who looks at banner sales are poor chuds with some gacha social war trying to win in a dick measuring contest

[raven ermine]

Oh daily wang doomposting, yippee

[silver smelt]

and the last time i checked there are at least 630 bilibili videos featuring wang
that's atleast from arkrec records

[safe tundra]

any first impression on specter2 and typhon mod

[raven ermine]

Typhon looks ass
Specter i'm holding back until i see it being played

[silver smelt]

typhon mod looks meh, spec2 wait and see if thers a use for her 'immortality' niche

[coarse notch]

🚮 and 🚮

[safe tundra]

sob

[raven ermine]

It doesnt look great yeah

[robust thistle]

Specter looks like it has potential but

[lofty vale]

Videos in general
I actually use Bilibili
Not sure why you’re continuing this though if you said it’s derailing

[lunar orbit]

how is kalter ?
i did read her kit but idk how well she fares in actual gameplay.

[coarse notch]

come back in 2 weeks when shes been playtested more

[formal shadow]

it's mandatory to pull her (legit!!!)

[silver smelt]

she heals and does damage. the dps is eh , the s3 cycle is loooooong but it's fun
just my initial impressions

[lunar orbit]

ye s3 seemed fun. i saw the supah video a bit ago.

[shadow bay]

spend 10 hope for others to be immortal or something real

[silver smelt]

no supah

[slender temple]

What's the SP cost for S3 anyway

[lunar orbit]

okay

[shadow bay]

spec cast might gonna be wild with spalter is mod idk

[twilit swallow]

Is sakiko S2 physical mode alway better than art mode?

[silver smelt]

check wiki i dont have m3 yet

[lofty vale]

You’ll only realistically use S3 once a map anyways
Im not sure how important skill cycle is
Would be nice if it’s more helidroppable though

[ivory terrace]

prob not always

[raven ermine]

Surely there's no better spec prio than spalter, right ?

[silver smelt]

me when speccast is really just spec

[coarse notch]

specspec

[abstract mauve]

it pierces as kerf said projectile just lasts for a set amount of time after peircing

[silver smelt]

true, specspec class squad when

[abstract mauve]

damn that changes how i view her s2. it's even worse than i thought

[silver smelt]

this is why you dont play afk

[polar hollow]

oh so it pierces 3 enemies and then the projectile is just purely visual or?

[abstract mauve]

no. kerf is right. it pierces then the projectile stays alive for a bit longer. it can damage enemies during this time

not visual basically

[lofty vale]

That’s pretty good ain’t it

[ivory terrace]

does sakiko get aspd from s3

[abstract mauve]

it's worse than pierce 3 cuz with pierce 3 it would mean the projectile can go to different parts of the map and hit enemies

[polar hollow]

isn't that good though or

[raven ermine]

Lol no, who cares, the skill is abysmall dogshit, basically offskill sakiko with pierce

[silver smelt]

no, she just makes more notes per attack

[abstract mauve]

it's technically neither good nor bad. it's just how the skill works

[polar hollow]

[wintry steppe]

should I straight up build ulpi

[raven ermine]

Why would you not ?

[abstract mauve]

unbiased opinion btw

[raven ermine]

Ril

[abstract mauve]

actually yeah there's no reason to not build ulpianus

[ivory terrace]

lazy that's y

[raven ermine]

He's not great in harder content, unless some pretty specific conditions if anything

[abstract mauve]

maybe you have an unbuilt sankta miksa and you are getting ready for his broken new mod

[silver smelt]

hes great in is5 i suppose

[raven ermine]

I didnt see what miksa new mod is about, is it good ?

[ivory terrace]

apparently turns him into a bigger stat stick

[wintry steppe]

my LMD already deep fried after building SA2 and his sister alt, but oh well guess I gotta burn another bag of LMD

[abstract mauve]

get 15% -> 20% of hp into barrier when not attacking for 8 -> 5 seconds. gain 12% atk when having own barrier

so peak

[raven ermine]

Oh pretty neat

[silver smelt]

truly the brick of all time

[raven ermine]

Nuh uh, no nian slander please

[wintry steppe]

I already got material ready for his E2 promote anyway, I just need LMD

[opaque remnant]

The attack gets added to his counter then?

[abstract mauve]

not sure what you mean. +12% atk as in the stat

[silver smelt]

hey i didnt even attach an adjective

[opaque remnant]

I mean the attack stat gets added to his counterattack on S3 right

[raven ermine]

It is what it is
Make sure base is done, and wait
Or farm IS if you want more, you'll catch up to raising units at some point

[abstract mauve]

he has +220% atk on s3. so it's not that big. the mod gives more base atk as well so he will be doing a a decent bit more damage overall

[robust thistle]

I mean if it scales based on his attack

[void magnet]

need a frnd with pram alt (others can also add): Imouto#3866

[abstract mauve]

the only attacks scale on sankta's kit is on s1 which is unfortunate

[wintry steppe]

What considered as base is done? All TP-Factory reached lv 3?

[urban sleet]

Thered no way pram alt isnt a common support unit in #friend-id

[raven ermine]

That's a big part, but also baseslaves

[wintry steppe]

Either looking for lv90 S3M3 or he is really unlucky at refreshing for pramalt

[abstract mauve]

damn 7% more damage on s3 🗣️

[opaque remnant]

It’s literally one of the first you see upon opening the channel-

[raven ermine]

Add mayuhiko#9797
Might as well flex my p6

[twilit swallow]

Do sakiko S1 on fever have more dps than S2 on fever

[silver smelt]

use s3 vro

[opaque remnant]

Why are you using S1 is the question

[silver smelt]

me when i buy a ferrari and only drive in reverse

[void magnet]

also is there different server cuz i get player not found

[abstract mauve]

me when i buy a ferrari and paint it brown

[urban bolt]

When doing these missions, do you not gain any experience for the milestones?

[raven ermine]

Im on global
Mayuhiko#9797, forgot capitalization is case sensitive

[silver smelt]

ye cuz it wasnt a real run

[urban bolt]

Damn I didn't know and completed a run. Guess I just wasted time then

[hoary lotus]

How you get this one?

[vital kelp]

3 x 3

[twilit swallow]

.

[thorn token]

Nah the stuff you get is cool imo and these run go like 10-15 minutes and are quite easy

[vital kelp]

why are we using sakiko s1 or s2 broski

[urban bolt]

What stuff

[silver smelt]

thats not what they were asking 🥹

[thorn token]

Upgrade materials and 30k lmd, you can see that when you tap on Contract Rewards

[ivory terrace]

once the IS content stop updating and u can fast track the "pass" with OP ye those monthly squads dun give u bonus exp

[hoary lotus]

Hello?

[urban bolt]

Alr ty

[vital kelp]

3 x 3(not green)

[hoary lotus]

What does that mean?

[vital kelp]

use 3 squad to play the game 3 times each

[raven ermine]

3 different strategies
3 clears each

[thorn token]

Just thought it would nice to note that these runs are not a waste of time 🙂

[urban bolt]

I already did the run with the rewards in mind, I just was confused as to why I didnt gain experience for milestone thing, but all good now

[hoary lotus]

So i have to use amiya for each difficulty?

Also how to stack faction fast tho? Saw people can do yan for like 150

[thorn token]

Ah yea sry then hahah

[hoary lotus]

What i mean is amiya strategies for example

[ivory terrace]

3 different uh "bosses"
for each strategy u pick

[vital kelp]

no, u just have to use 3 different person, each person plays the game 3 times in any difficulty that isnt the green one

[frozen dawn]

whats the fastest way to clear IS4?

[vital kelp]

theres no shortcut in playing IS outside is5

[frozen dawn]

oh damn

[urban bolt]

What's the strat in is5?

[raven ermine]

Ig you rush ed1 and ignore boskeys

[vital kelp]

blueprint lamp

[alpine lance]

Tin Man S1 30% Enfeeble is full uptime right? That's the highest consistent Enfeeble we have right? That and maybe Virtuosa S1 for perma necrosis (with some gaps inbetween).

[ornate dust]

Lamp or bs all the way to the boss and scam clear with wis

[lime ledge]

which one should i pick?

[hoary lotus]

Green as mean complete faction?

[vital kelp]

surtr or eyja

[urban bolt]

No idea what that means

[hoary lotus]

I dont get it bruh, same for how to get stacks

[vital kelp]

green as in Entry Protocol difficulty

[short kettle]

hey guys

[vital kelp]

check out #is-station im sure they got pinned message there

[short kettle]

I have a question

[abstract mauve]

where did you keep it

[short kettle]

is there news about pc client on global?

[raven ermine]

Nope

[frozen dawn]

for IS, does quercus need to be e2? or e1 lvl60 is enough?

[short kettle]

madge

[vital kelp]

why would u use quercus in IS

[opaque cape]

What are the best operators to start with in IS6 ?

[vital kelp]

raidian exu2 trago

[frozen dawn]

when my luck is so trash at getting medic vouchers

[raven ermine]

Cope option if you miss medic tix ig
It was pretty popular at some point

[vital kelp]

😭

[raven ermine]

But e1 sl7 is enough

[frozen dawn]

alr

[shadow bay]

non e2 quercus so disgusting to use

[raven ermine]

E2 quercus would be 2 tix
That you could use on trag, raidian, ange instead
I wouldnt draft quercus in the first place anyway

[lofty vale]

Isn’t Amiya the non medic medic

[runic willow]

is she just a worse haruka?

[faint acorn]

how do I find the costume I want

[vital kelp]

u scroll

[slender temple]

Scroll down?

[faint acorn]

no faster method?
there’s like 60

[vital kelp]

scroll faster

[slender temple]

Grab some tea, enjoy the arts

[vital kelp]

wtf they fixed hool mouth in that skin? look so pretty

[chrome prawn]

Buy it

[vital kelp]

i dont have hool so

[twilit ingot]

thing to note is that the outfit available for selection is only for the outfits that are currently available that is being sold in the store

[slender temple]

Still saving my ticket for Lemon's

[undone portal]

hi helpers

[ornate sable]

I am pissed that Kyostin manage to beat OS-S-5 CM with Thorns. That's like awfully distasteful. Albeit the Thorns is E2Lv88

[faint acorn]

is lemuen’s skin obtainable from the voucher?

[ornate sable]

Who?

[ivory terrace]

it will have to come on sale first
and even then, if it has L2D it is not eligible

[slender temple]

Yes since it's 18 OP

[opaque remnant]

it's not

[slender temple]

Lemuen

[shadow bay]

if its 18 or less then yeh

[faint acorn]

when’s the skin coming on?

[undone portal]

if allies within the range of closures summon are also functionally considered her summons, do they also get the 15% dmg reduction from tactician mod x?

[slender temple]

Like 5 months

[rain forge]

around 4-5ish months

[faint acorn]

damn

[undone portal]

oh huge

[rain forge]

when does the update drop in cn

[raven ermine]

What's the issue if it works ?
Do you simply don't use units just because ?

[undone portal]

its already out

[rain forge]

how do kal2 and closure look so far

[undone portal]

which is why im now asking gameplay questions
kals looking meta, closures looking pretty good

[slender temple]

Yummy, is that the question?

JK have to wait a bit longer ig

[rain forge]

what are their numbers again

[undone portal]

erm. go check prts

[opaque remnant]

gotta wait for all M3's

[raven ermine]

I would wait at least a week, if not more, to get a real idea of how they're fitting in the meta

[rain forge]

[opaque remnant]

only type of content you'd find is mostly meme content with the silver+ulpi combo again this time with kal

[rain forge]

[undone portal]

my thought on kal being meta relevant is that shes functionally invincible to ground enemies and naturally blocks up to 2 flying enemies within a cross shape around herself, while having an s3 thats an exualt s3 sidegrade

she'll 100% show up in high risk cc for the same reason leizialt did

[rain forge]

How big is the cross

[undone portal]

adjacent tiles

[rain forge]

so 1 tile in all 4 directions, alr

[abstract mauve]

people already m3'd both kal s2 and kal s3

[opaque remnant]

what the fuck

[rain forge]

what the hell

[opaque remnant]

how is that even possible

[undone portal]

saving m3 vouchers + high level logos/irene abuse

[slender temple]

Instant M3 ticket exist?

[pseudo flume]

M3 Ticket and Logos Trainer Sweating

[opaque remnant]

M3 ticket makes sense, but finishing another M3 that fast is... something

[pseudo flume]

Its possible to M3 an op within 24 hours ya

[abstract mauve]

the guy with kal s2m3 just removed my ass from his friend list damn

[undone portal]

they could also just happen to have 2 on hand

[pseudo flume]

It was not meant to be

[undone portal]

is this the motivation i need to do kal'tsit1 s2m3 myself

[slate sigil]

Will these materials be in short supply?

[little pike]

Is mantra easy skip?

[rain forge]

module data blocks yes
the others not really

[opaque remnant]

data blocks tend to be, the other two, not at all

[slate sigil]

[undone portal]

modblocks are the most timegated material, instruments/sticks are in plentiful supply

[undone portal]

not sure how you would be pulling for mantra right now exactly but shes not worth chasing after

[opaque remnant]

not really sure how you'd get mantra in the first place without orienteering or joint op

[rain forge]

maybe they play in TW or smth

[undone portal]

thats an EN sc though

[rain forge]

[vast slate]

hi what does the game consider as "ammo" for exu-alter purposes?

[raven ermine]

If you get mantra with that account you obviously raise her
Don't go out of your way to get her
But yeah you're like 3 weeks late

[pseudo flume]

Not the Hunter Archetype Ammo

[vast slate]

do something like aurora s2 count? what about ray basic attacks?

[opaque remnant]

it feels more than three weeks...

[undone portal]

any skill that directly says 'ammo' in its description. ie skill duration dependent on how many attacks youve done

[pseudo flume]

Hunters do not count

[vast slate]

ah okk ty

[undone portal]

aurora s2 yes, hunter ammo no

[raven ermine]

Hunter doesnt have ammo
Yes, aurora counts
Check tomimi.dev if you want to check for yourself

[undone portal]

ops that put a little orange segmented bar below themselves onskill

[pseudo flume]

Wao their reload mechanic is a lie

[vast slate]

i see, ty

[pseudo flume]

Mayu conformed it, Ray doesn't load ammo but air

[raven ermine]

Yep, she's just lazy

[pseudo flume]

But she's not Chinese nor a Tianshi though

[jovial urchin]

How about we call it bullet?

[rain forge]

3 weeks more like a month

[median fable]

we got a new mat with ch17?

[raven ermine]

Are you all getting stuck on the 3 weeks
Why does that matter

[rain forge]

[median fable]

our job is to nitpick 🥹

[raven ermine]

Didn't see a new mat, but i might be wrong
We get RMA in shop tho

[rain forge]

🥹

[vivid yew]

How is the new unit on CN server? I don't trust reddit comment so i ask here

[rain forge]

wait around a week for a good consensus

[pseudo flume]

Needs more testing

[median fable]

I don't trust reddit
so peak and so right

[pseudo flume]

Looks interesting on 1st Impression but needs more time to look for details

[opaque remnant]

will closure be fucked over by her archetype or not

[median fable]

but yeah, if someone gives you a definitive answer don't trust him, we only got first impressions

[abstract mauve]

how often does closure s3 attack?

[pseudo flume]

You tell me, you have the Chinese Account

[rain forge]

exu2 is a geek and haruka is an abjurer archetype doesn’t matter gng

[median fable]

archetypes aren't inherently good/bad

[abstract mauve]

it looks like every 0.5 seconds. she actually seems to have such high dps

[little pike]

Is he going to stop getting stats past 100% trust?

[pseudo flume]

Splash Caster still salvageable trust

[opaque remnant]

mostly worried because our previous examples of the same archetype weren't anything special

[abstract mauve]

the enemies this event are custom made for her to eat up

[pseudo flume]

101 - 200% is for friends to get Trust Stats from Borrow

[median fable]

Mumu is one of the best niche operators in the game

[undone portal]

said as though tactician isnt one of the inherent good archetypes

[opaque remnant]

alright, I don't use her enough

[median fable]

only vigil gets screwd up and he's a welfare

[abstract mauve]

[undone portal]

vigil isnt even bad its just that no one seems to know to look at s1 first 🥀

[raven ermine]

Vigil's niche is pretty good when you need it
Permastall with sp devices

[pseudo flume]

Shileds ready to splash JJ with a wine glass of water

[spare jetty]

[median fable]

he's not as bad as people online make him but he's still bad for a 6* standard

[rain forge]

have they calc’d kal2 and closure’s numbers yet or nah

[pseudo flume]

Why the sudden pause? Hmmmmmge?

[median fable]

typing on phone is hard

[rain forge]

[median fable]

while walking

[raven ermine]

You'll bonk yourself, care

[pseudo flume]

@turbid ocean do we have Closure and Kal2 calcs yet?

[abstract mauve]

there's no calcs to be done for kal2. closure calcs arent particularly meanigful either

[median fable]

light stopped doing math since he became a scalper

[abstract mauve]

he needs to calc vyi tho

[undone portal]

i wont lie i dont think the dps numbers even matter for these 2
prts screenshots of their s2/3s at m3 for those curious

[pseudo flume]

We lost Satori to Limbus Company and Chisha to Trickal 🥀

[median fable]

I'd have done them but I'm busy

[raven ermine]

Time to pickup the legacy astrel

[abstract mauve]

i've been doing some random other fuckass calcs like astgenne2 effective slow

[pseudo flume]

Wao Solar Runes

[near hollow]

is this what we call inflation?

[raven ermine]

I'm doing the ones i care about here and there, surely someone will drop calcs without us needing to lift a finger

[pseudo flume]

It isn't because Skin has 2 forms

[opaque remnant]

be thankful it isn't paid

[undone portal]

youre paying for 2 live2d models :nodders:

[abstract mauve]

with s2 it's 67% effective mvspd reduction against main target and 39.1% effective mvspd reduction in an aoe for those wondering

[raven ermine]

Did you take weight into account ?

[pseudo flume]

21 is L2D
24 is L2D w Entrance Animation
27 is L2D w 2 Forms

[raven ermine]

Or does it not matter mostly

[undone portal]

slow duration should still be ticking down while the enemy is getting shifted, so effectively the same

[pseudo flume]

It shouldn't matter no? When its just slow not shifting

[abstract mauve]

no weight into account. i feel like that's very situation dependent

[median fable]

guys, we need to use a llm for math and quit our job as helpers 🗣️

[abstract mauve]

also it more clumps up low weight enemies and throws them around

[raven ermine]

Yeah it would be, i agree

[pseudo flume]

Dragongjy Dps Bot 🤫

[median fable]

the one that doesn't calc Tequila dmg correctly? 🥹

[spare jetty]

money for hw pls

[slender temple]

Ah so it has entrance animation too, was afraid it'd be just 2 form no entrance like Amiya's one

[pseudo flume]

Tbf Amiya was only 24

[raven ermine]

We just need to fill arkdps once and for all
Maintenance easy after that

[undone portal]

no entrance animation. youre paying for extra voicelines

[slender temple]

Got my hopes up for a moment there

[bright dawn]

Is archetto worth 180 certs?

[undone portal]

arkdps bot still doesnt have brigids dps uploaded :realmad:

only reason you would cert for archetto is if youre crazy into is

[raven ermine]

If you were, i feel like you would not be asking

[undone portal]

precisely

[slender temple]

Who does Gnosis play with in IS again, the siblings alter? Or he's good on his own

[robust thistle]

SAlter or any kjerag op

[undone portal]

siblings, anyone else from kjerag

steward gaming

[robust thistle]

its a shame gnosis module doesnt include himself

[raven ermine]

Steward when pram is right here 😔

[slender temple]

Too OP I guess

[balmy panther]

chat
is there a hidden medal for breaking through the Hidden Core?

[undone portal]

sometimes you get a 3rd caster voucher

[undone portal]

is this a ch17 thing im too stuck in global to understand

[robust thistle]

is that the SP secret boss

[balmy panther]

stronghold protocol
if you beat the boss with a certain amount of total core stacks (200+) you get a second boss

[raven ermine]

Ril, but theres kjera too

[balmy panther]

not!patriot nuked me so hard

[robust thistle]

I still dont know how you get stacks

[raven ermine]

Depend on the core

[pseudo flume]

Laterno is just Ammo

[balmy panther]

certain ops are the stacks generators

aid alliance also gets stacks

[undone portal]

oh ive never seen this new goal

[robust thistle]

I know exalt is stack battery for laterano

do they not tell you how to get stacks in the faction text

[undone portal]

idk these smaller events have always had 5 medals and theyre all visible so i doubt theyd hide another medal behind something that difficult

[raven ermine]

They do, if it's tied to the faction mechanic
Some units are meant as stacks generators as crom said

[robust thistle]

also them having both exec and exalt in laterano is kinda pepeg
I thought I was losing my mind when I see exalt hitting drones

[undone portal]

every alliance earns their stacks differently, just gotta check descriptions
yan/laterano/aegir do just earn their stacks significantly faster than everyone else tbh

[opaque remnant]

is this in solo?

[sick night]

She’s really fun in IS. Not really worth 180 certs that could buy you a modern character though.

[raven ermine]

Aegir goes kinda crazy when you get a good setup for it

[undone portal]

earning high stacks on any other faction feels rng dependent as hell even with yu strategist

[raven ermine]

I feel like it's harder to force specific drafts compared to SP1

I can't stack andreanas anymore, and we dont have access to equipment as easily

[undone portal]

victoria alliance feels kinda ass precisely because of that icl

[balmy panther]

Heidi/Bag/Vina are the Victorian generators

Exalt is the laterano battery

Zuo is the Yan battery

Kjerag is sash/pram

Aegir is just funny

[crimson viper]

I have Kal, Lumen, and Haruka. Is she worth to build? Fyi, my team uses Haruka and Lumen

[balmy panther]

for both

[raven ermine]

Insider pretty good for laterano stacks too

[pseudo flume]

No

[crimson viper]

Bet

[balmy panther]

Aegir goes crazy until you get drone swarm and forget to check the enemies

[opaque remnant]

yeah that's exactly my problem

[balmy panther]

insider uses the stacks, but he doesn't generate

[raven ermine]

Oh not insider then, was it exec1 or enforcer ? Idr
Basically stacks every ammo consumed by the operator in front

[proven kelp]

SP1 is better
It's hard to make more diverse teams with SP2, since the equipment that convert other operators to a different faction is harder to get, since not only you need multiple specific equipment, now it takes 2 slots so the one your convert is much weaker

[balmy panther]

SP1 was way more cancer wdym

[proven kelp]

Insider + Executor1, yes

Insider is the only low tier Laterano with Ammo, and Executor is the best for Generating Stacks for low tier

[abstract mauve]

sp1 didnt really have teams to begin with

[raven ermine]

SP1 used to get very silly very fast yeah
I didn't play enough sp2 yet tho, so i'm holding back on that one until i fairly test everything

[abstract mauve]

how hard the mode was was completely dependant on rng as well

[crimson viper]

Anyone worth building? I have SAlter, SAsh, ExuAlt, ExeAlt, Insider, Yu, Ling, Haruka, Logos, Trag, Lumen, and PramAlt in my main team.
Thinking about switching out SAsh for someone, I'm still not good with comp, TYIA!

[balmy panther]

so back to my question
is there a hidden medal for beating the hidden boss in SP2?

[proven kelp]

SP1 is easily cheeseable

Early Faction equipment is almost guarantee, so it's easier to make a full team

Not to mention we don't have these Stacks BS

I feel SP2 early game is much harder but if you manage to make a Setup, it's much easier

[opaque remnant]

may I ask why ling is being used in a full team?

[balmy panther]

how consistently did you beat hard mode in SP1

[proven kelp]

Very consistent

[balmy panther]

sure

[proven kelp]

The only time i really brick is when i didn't get the Faction Change Equipment that i want

[crimson viper]

Ohhh, that reminds me, I want to replace Ling and SAsh with someone
I switched Ling to ZuoLe sometimes, but I barely uses them

[pseudo flume]

Wiki shows nothing

[balmy panther]

so no real reason to beat the hidden boss, aside from flex

[pseudo flume]

Ig so?

[little pike]

Am I stuck forever?

[pseudo flume]

No, just takes too long

[raven ermine]

Sp1 had a lot of very consistent win con i feel like
Might sound like a broken record, but andreana spam was incredibly easy to setup, very early spike, and scaled incredibly hard with equipment

[opaque remnant]

just add more DPS to the right side

[proven kelp]

SP1 is so easy that i helped some friends clearing their Core Protocol

[orchid forum]

I assume I get the free 5 star?

[opaque remnant]

if the tags don't drop

[cursive maple]

the tags can drop tho so gl

[orchid forum]

yeaa
gonna expedite prayge

[pale ferry]

I can't find where to get Pramanix promotional and skill materials, who should I build among these URs

[orchid forum]

[cursive maple]

gz

[ancient lintel]

Pram -> ulpi -> base slaves imo

[opaque remnant]

pram2 (once you get the mats) > ulpi
and uhh, surtr is optional I guess?

[proven kelp]

SP1 also have better Commander

I don't really feel the SP2 commander to be that impactful tbh

[pale ferry]

Okay thanks ill do ulpi first then surtr

[raven ermine]

Bring back hool real

[opaque remnant]

shouldn't baseslaves be very first

[proven kelp]

[ancient lintel]

Cheap ones should be first ye mb

[raven ermine]

I would also e2 surtr and ulpi before pram

[ancient lintel]

The faster you get your basement going the better your income will be

[opaque remnant]

is it because surtr mats are more accesible?

[proven kelp]

I'd max Pram2 and let her solo the map

[undone wren]

You wouldve thought a lot of people would make video edit with sash2 but all I see is pram2 but I didnt get her now im fomo 🥲

[opaque remnant]

do you have any questions?

[ancient lintel]

Pram2 > sash2

[raven ermine]

No it's because surtr is not an unit before e2, while pram already function decently, and access to s3 isnt mandatory

Also masteries/module won't make or break the unit

[ancient lintel]

Pram gets her fatal denial at e2 ye?

[undone wren]

When would pram2 rerun?

[robust thistle]

never

[ancient lintel]

Never

[raven ermine]

She won't

[undone wren]

[opaque remnant]

she doesn't, wait for orienteering or joint op

[raven ermine]

You have to wait for an orienteering or featured standard

[scenic nexus]

Best stage to farm for silver ash event?

[opaque remnant]

(not like you should pull on standard banners in the first place)

[ancient lintel]

And then the other options are ho'ol blalter and ebenballz

[sacred cave]

Ik it's already bad enough to spark but would you spark exu2 especially on this banner? And how does ||kalter|| compare to monster

[raven ermine]

Sugar > rma > fluid

[scenic nexus]

Thankss

[opaque remnant]

blazealt doesn't deserve that much slander...

[spare jetty]

wait pls
thank you

[tardy estuary]

Is there operators better than wisadel

[opaque remnant]

preferably you'd wait a week for the full perspective and use cases

[sweet warren]

OS 7 and 9
We will get RMA stage again on next event and then unlimited in shop EP 17

[ancient lintel]

Better in what?

[robust thistle]

define "better"

[tardy estuary]

Gimme names I haven’t played in a while

[raven ermine]

Fluid kinda shit to farm, lets be real

[slender palm]

do i try to clear out the whole event shop or what do i prioritise as a beginner?

[opaque remnant]

are you planning on sparking?

[ancient lintel]

LMD and exp

[tardy estuary]

No I just wanna know if she’s powercrept yet

[robust thistle]

shes not

[opaque remnant]

/eventshop has the best prios for max sanity efficiency

[urban bolt]

Are there more of this missions if you advance more into RA? Or are these the only ones?

[tardy estuary]

Let’s gooo

[robust thistle]

not yet at least, shes still the same braindead op

[ancient lintel]

Not directly afaik
But in terms of dmg output she did kinda fell off

[glossy schooner]

In 2 and a half months, maybe, not entirely sure if Wang is That good

[sacred cave]

okay but that's just sad no? We knew instantly the cny was absolutely broken before the ops were even playable

[tardy estuary]

Bruh what does wang do

[raven ermine]

Those are the only ones
There's also the first 18 days of RAcc if you clear the RA campaign

[spare jetty]

still gets countered by dmg reflect stuffs

[ancient lintel]

Wang is just wis but damage++++ and survivability--

[glossy schooner]

Be a “Trapmaster”
Aka spam so many traps that are arts nukes he might as well not be a Trapmaster

[charred root]

wisadel but trapmaster

[opaque remnant]

if that's considered falled off then somethings direly wrong

[nova oak]

is saltfin doable with this team? i can borrow if needed

[tardy estuary]

so he clears wisadel in damage

[opaque remnant]

"trapmaster" my ass

[robust thistle]

saltfin is easy

[nova oak]

i just get wiped on the right side by the big bomb guys

[glossy schooner]

Exactly, Wang is Not a Trapmaster

[opaque remnant]

you should at least e1 pram

[ancient lintel]

You can literally borrow a pramanix the pretria and let her solo the stage lol

[robust thistle]

wdym right side, just let them drown

[nova oak]

how? they walk up even if i put an op on the edge

[urban bolt]

What do you mean by RA campaign?

[robust thistle]

theres a big sand patch in the middle

[ancient lintel]

He didnt kill bridge builders smh

[nova oak]

how do i kill them 😭 i dont have a helidrop

[robust thistle]

idk about you but right side gets solo'd by hoshialt and left side got solo'd by pramalt for me

[ancient lintel]

Spawn camp top right and kill bridge builders before they build a bridge

[tardy estuary]

By the time the April fools wisadel skin comes out she better still be good

[sturdy juniper]

how to beat this guy

[nova oak]

but like how do i kill them without a helidrop

[opaque remnant]

it's not like she does from top tier to dogshit just because something stronger is out

[raven ermine]

There's a list of things you have to do, leading to a few bosses/events
When you're done with that you get access to RA contention
Idr exactly where you can find the checklist

[glossy schooner]

Just use Any other op

[charred root]

feed him 3 weak operators or summons
I think this is better discussed in #reclamation-algorithm-hub

[nova oak]

also where do i put pramanix there?

[tardy estuary]

Ik, im just a little shit who doesn’t like my favorite character to be out classed by a gay femboy named wang
Actually is he a dragon or something

[urban bolt]

Oh I see, I just did the glowstick farm and havent touched it since except for doing those missions. So I was wondering if there were more rewards like that

[robust thistle]

shes e0lv1, shes not gonna do shit

[nova oak]

i borrowed

[glossy schooner]

Yes he is a Sui, too bad he’s homeless

[robust thistle]

top left ranged tile, get a bait for the cannon guys

[raven ermine]

Like i said, the first 18 days of RAcc, but the entry cost is a bit high if all you've done is farming lightsticks

[nova oak]

who do i hold right side with?

[robust thistle]

you have degen and shu

[glossy schooner]

Do you have 11 more operators slots?

[ancient lintel]

I mean she still has a potential for a delta mod, and that can bring her back to the top imo
She's no longer the undisputed top 1 but she's still around there

[frozen dawn]

what skill is generally used for shu?

[spare jetty]

3

[opaque remnant]

S3, S1 is afkslop (again)

[ancient lintel]

3, or 1 if you enjoy afk

[raven ermine]

Fym anyway why would wisadel need a delta module
Can we stop the doomposting, do you have 12 wangs in your team or smth

[nova oak]

also, how do i kill the bridge builders if theyre invisible?

[robust thistle]

block them

wdym how to kill them, youre camping the spawn

[tardy estuary]

Man who undisputed top 1

[ancient lintel]

No one

[nova oak]

oh i camp right too? okay

[ancient lintel]

Currently wis exu and trag shares top 3

[opaque remnant]

specifically exu2

[ancient lintel]

W2, phantom2 and exu2

[abstract mauve]

damn all alters

[raven ermine]

The very good undisputed units are like trag wis exu2 wang
It doesnt even stay true in all content, so why dumb it down to a tierlist

[tardy estuary]

Who the fuck is trag
Dr trayorus?

[opaque remnant]

Tragodia

[proven kelp]

The fraud

[robust thistle]

why are we doing a dick measuring contest again

[proven kelp]

Cut it off and incinerate it

[abstract mauve]

he wants the biggest one of them all

[opaque remnant]

what?

[raven ermine]

Because #help explode without the daily wang vs wisadel slop

[nova oak]

are there any better welfare dp generators than i currently have? basically looking to replace flametailhttps://www.krooster.com/u/rhiraswen

[robust thistle]

myrtle exists

[abstract mauve]

wanqing the goat
or matsukiri but ye

[robust thistle]

why are you making this hard on yourself, you can just use flametail s1 and it'll do the same thing

[urban sleet]

Do rankings matter when what matters in gameplay is how good an operator is with respect to the content (atleast gen content), which isnt dependant on other operators

[nova oak]

she doesnt generate enough on her own

[robust thistle]

she does

[nova oak]

for me to put in pramalterer, shu, degen and flametail before they cross? no

[robust thistle]

you use her to block

[rain forge]

How much dp does flametail s1 generate

[urban sleet]

You dont need everything down at once

[nova oak]

i use her to block the left side ,yes..

[robust thistle]

dear lord shes a pioneer, dont put her in a corner somewhere

[junior hull]

Is Sakiko the best 6* lord guard?

[nova oak]

hello who said anything about putting her in a corner? i use her to block the left side?

[robust thistle]

use her to block, bring pramalt and drop her right after

[ancient lintel]

She's the best one in her archetype ya

[robust thistle]

do I have to make a new auto just to prove flametail s1 is enough

[junior hull]

What makes her the best?

[opaque remnant]

pioneer isn't a very high bar

[raven ermine]

Sakiko can't permastall with s1 🚮

[nova oak]

why are we talking about s1? s3 is literally better?

[ancient lintel]

I dont really think you need to block shit on left side if ur ranged units are strong enough to just kill them or slow them down and let them drown lol

[robust thistle]

s3 needs you to press buttons

I dont want to pay attention to a 400 enemy stage over the bare minimum

[rain forge]

[nova oak]

it generates more dp tho..

[robust thistle]

yeah but I put more effort to do it

[raven ermine]

Damage
That's it really

[rain forge]

I used gravel to block the bridge makers when they reached the sand pit near the blue box and then took them out with a sniper

[ancient lintel]

Deletes everything in her range basically

[junior hull]

I got Sakiko, is her module a must? If so, can I leave it mod2 at the moment?

[opaque remnant]

you're making the assumption that the average annihilation player would take more effort than just pressing a few buttons and leaving the game playing

[ancient lintel]

You can leave it at mod2 ya, get it to 3 eventually though

[raven ermine]

Mod2+ yes
If you can afford mod3 i would do it
But you can work on other things in the meantime

[nova oak]

do drones come out of the bottom?

[ancient lintel]

Not drones but birds
And if you pay attention they'll go top left, which is where kerf told u that pram can solo XD