help

[raven ermine]

Farm sugar then, RMA is on lappalt rerun

[wraith shoal]

I did farm some rma too for upgrade purposes but doing sugar now. Haven't cleared shop yet but since I probably will soon, idk what to do with sanity next. I'm also completely empty on pulls and need to do a bunch of older stuff to get some for wang so that'll take a lot of sanity as well

[hidden nacelle]

you have 3 months til wan

are eiither of nasti and titi vignettes?

[stray gust]

lappland rerun is erm.. rma and fluid I think, + mango or something.

[lethal chasm]

Is there anyone after Wang that would be worth saving for?

[hidden nacelle]

kal alt and closure

[stray gust]

closure and old hag cat

[pine plover]

maybe zima2 if you have something to spare

[buoyant sigil]

Also known as the next limited after Wang

[hidden nacelle]

?

[buoyant sigil]

Nah

[wraith shoal]

Just wanna be safe that's all. Cause all the events in between will eat up my sanity too and I wanna save up at least 200

[buoyant sigil]

Both nasti and titi are full-blown events and have welfares. Also farmable

[winter mist]

https://www.krooster.com/u/aonurie

Any mods or skills i should prio leveling up? Or any characters i should invest in?

[hidden nacelle]

alrigh

[buoyant sigil]

crownslayer also eats your sanity

[raven ermine]

e2 necrass s3m3 > surtr mod2 > prama s3m3 > virt e2

[winter mist]

is necrass that good i thought she was just an okay op

[pine plover]

necrass also wants mod3

[raven ermine]

She is good and your roster is quite small
Not anything groundbreaking but the summon has good stats, s2 has it's niche too

[pine plover]

s2 for football minigame

[raven ermine]

Where football, bring it back

[pine plover]

shit will be returning as standalone event

[ruby lance]

What's a good pull amount to not drop below from the current silverash banner in order to have enough for the wang banner in a few months? I have around 100 pulls left but still dont have pramanix alter

[old valley]

i wanna use rosmontis for IS stuff cus im sure shes good for it but i havent upgraded a single thing of her i just got her long ago. What should i prioritize for rosmontis and is she worth my resources even if she is just for IS?

[raven ermine]

s2m3 IS mod3 for IS
Sometimes s1 (rarely s3) are used, but you'll see if you want masteries on those on the way

[lyric lagoon]

100 is very safe, 50 is still safe enough, going to 0 should be fine but that’d bet on you not having abysmal dogshit luck

[last bridge]

Better than Typhon?

[lyric lagoon]

you’d should be able to get around 150 pulls by wang if you just actively play

[raven ermine]

Way way better

[lyric lagoon]

not even a fair comparison

[last bridge]

Nice. I'll replace Typhon on the team then

[last bridge]

[pine plover]

at least typhlosion is getting IS module

[lyric lagoon]

boutta be hool levels

[lament loom]

[raven ermine]

I hope not

[ruby lance]

I got 3 silverash alters + 1 thorns alter on this banner so far and I know my luck is usually trash lmao

[last bridge]

Chat, give me your lmd. I need approx 200k to E2 Lemuen
What does E2 give her btw?

I'm too lazy to wiki

[wraith shoal]

200k is not a lot. Do some IS

[reef sparrow]

S3

[raven ermine]

Access to her main skill, mod2 and masteries mostly
For the kit, refer to the wiki, we're lazy too

[blissful mortar]

Increase damage to Lateran ops

[silver smelt]

s3, masteries, and mod
same as everyone else

[last bridge]

😔 I'm grinding to get that nice Myrtle summer skin.

[blissful mortar]

And obv her module

[last bridge]

🔥 it sucks cause I don't have them obv

[lyric lagoon]

orbital cannon skill and a self-buff after 20 seconds that gives atk% increase and 1 ammo capacity

[silver smelt]

stop spoonfeeding

[last bridge]

@silver smelt wtf

[lyric lagoon]

not like there’s anything else to do

[last bridge]

Is it good?

[silver smelt]

we said get e2

[lyric lagoon]

why would we recommend you to get e2 if it wasn’t good

[last bridge]

I didn't read. I was gonna E2 anyway

[silver smelt]

go fucking read then

[wraith shoal]

anyone here have a built Vina I could borrow? I'd send a message on #friend-id but crazy slowmode makes me wait 5 hours

[blissful mortar]

Haha her module is super good tho

Her s3 is also very useful for aoe

[lament loom]

I mean we said better than Typhoon, and that u should E2 her, s3m3 and mod Lemuen cuz shes just superior

[silver smelt]

s3 is her best skill

[last bridge]

Alr. I'm off to grind more stories and E1 Lemuen for now

I'm broke as shit. I'm on Nicole levels of broke rn

[blissful mortar]

Whattt I thought s2 😞

[lyric lagoon]

specifically mod2

[coarse notch]

s2 kinda sucks outside of very specific scenarios

its dps blows and its mastery gains suck

[raven ermine]

tf is a nicole

[lyric lagoon]

off-topic game reference, dw bout it

[storm wadi]

So I'm basically F2P, and I got Pramanix Alter from the limited banner so far and have ~70 pulls left, should I try my luck for Silverash Altar or save for the Chen banner?

[west hazel]

what was the name of that websote where ppl record their clears of stages with the least amount of operators ?

[silver smelt]

arkrec

[rocky pilot]

I'll just give you context

[left tulip]

class of "whatever year that was?"

[frail nymph]

how does one know if a character is less likely to fall off harder (like for ex. pozemka and chalter were rlly good but mlynar who was released at around the same time as them just aged better) or is that not a thing and its just up to whatever the devs do

[coarse notch]

id go for 1 more 6 star

[humble arrow]

is crownslayer worth building now?

[silver smelt]

all units fall off

[humble arrow]

she perma stuns up to 3 units right

[pine plover]

nah, she is still homeless and jobless, and now even got clowned by an emperor

[coarse notch]

dps are more likely to fall off
other than that, no way of predicting
the less utility an op has the less likely they'll stay relevant

[lyric lagoon]

do they have a niche that nobody else can fulfill AND it’s a useful niche that can generally be used anywhere?
if yes: do the math
if no: do the same math

[raven ermine]

Usually, having good utility is a pretty surefire way to stay relevant
Mlynar is still relevant because he's cheap to deploy, block 0 is good, and mostly, the damage is still very high quality, his utility isn't anything crazy, new module helped him quite a lot

[next axle]

Is she good?

[lyric lagoon]

and even when ops fall off or are mid, an IS mod can save them from out of nowhere if the mod is good, so there’s no predicting the future

[raven ermine]

nope

[rocky pilot]

What's even W base skill again...

Oh

[raven ermine]

She's sniper trainer for m3

[stray mica]

Hi everyone, what module would be great for Penance? Thanks

[raven ermine]

modx for penance

[stray mica]

I see, thanks

[devout spire]

Ah cool, when?

[hidden nacelle]

3 month ish

[buoyant sigil]

Dorothy, as a trapmaster, sounds really niche. However, she seems to have an abnormally high amount of traps. Does she spam those?

[raven ermine]

That's modx3 effect you're seeing i assume

[left tulip]

She places some on deploy

[buoyant sigil]

Highly likely, but that’s still 8 onfield trap limit(?) with regularly gained traps no

[stoic quartz]

just to confirm for sure, today is the last day of the banner right?

[left tulip]

Yes resets in 12 hours and 20 minutes

Not resets straight up leaves the town

[buoyant sigil]

She seems to gain her traps quite fast compared to some other trapmasters

[raven ermine]

There's no limit to trapmasters traps, the only limit is how many they have access to
Dorothy gain one trap every 12s, no matter the skill, but modx3 spawn one in her range each time she deploy one, with a 50%chance

[fathom hawk]

will there be any more ways to get this

[buoyant sigil]

Crazy. That sounds rather nice. Doesn’t she her s2 bind?

[left tulip]

Yep

Loses duration vs multiple targets tho

[surreal dome]

the packs store has one for free every 180 days
and one paid 5 bucks also resets every 180 days

[buoyant sigil]

So am I looking at a reliable binder that’s not Ethan

[fathom hawk]

oh cool thx

[left tulip]

You’re looking at a nicely designed trap master that’s about to be swallowed by w*ng

[raven ermine]

S2 is the niche skill, used for stalling, s3 is good for aoe slows/general content/damage
Reliable depend on the stage and enemies you're planning to stall

[buoyant sigil]

I’d say their purposes are quite different. One has cc one is nuclear bombing simulator

[limpid yarrow]

she should have dealt a wangillion damage wcyd

[left tulip]

Bro have you seen her S3

[raven ermine]

did you look at wang s2

[limpid yarrow]

wangs other two skills have nontrivial cc and damage too

[lethal chasm]

Imma be honest Kal alt and closure don't look that great and worth pulling

[left tulip]

Wang has slow too it’s all a joke

[buoyant sigil]

Oh yeah. She does do chained explosions in s3 yes?

[left tulip]

It’s wang S2 but worse

[limpid yarrow]

[left tulip]

More interesting but worse

[buoyant sigil]

Oh right and super chess is getting traps how often?

[left tulip]

Which is why wang is a slur

[vital kelp]

their numbers are barely out 😭

[buoyant sigil]

We’ve yet to see numbers no? For hag2 and closure

[raven ermine]

depend on the skill

[severe crypt]

Yes the update even out yet y’all can’t even wait

[limpid yarrow]

their kits seem super big cup and the calculations show pretty decent numbers

[lethal chasm]

Oh I saw some show cases on YouTube that's why unless they aren't showcases haha

[vital kelp]

utube

[buoyant sigil]

So what are the s2 and s3 numbers respectively

[vital kelp]

ima wait for sungan

[severe crypt]

I mean yeah all there is are the showcases from the livestream, that’s hardly enough to properly make a final verdict
That and we have 6-7 months to make our verdict

[vital kelp]

our verdict: parrot from cn

[raven ermine]

s2 is 2 per 15s
S3 is ammo count, so it depend when you deactivate the skill

[ancient lintel]

Is it really our verdict

[buoyant sigil]

I see I see hm

Sighh wang truly is the roach, 2

[left tulip]

In my eyes much worse

[buoyant sigil]

Was it this bad when she released as well? I wasn’t here

[raven ermine]

Why would this be bad

[ancient lintel]

But he aint a waifu

[devout spire]

Any good ops coming before next limited?

[buoyant sigil]

Arguably… yes, and more than her

[buoyant sigil]

Sets a bad precedent for both creep and especially player brainrot. “Targeting priority? Wha???”

[vital kelp]

kal moves across the map with 2 operator can benefit from SP relics or no

[left tulip]

I mean I don’t think that actually matters whatsoever

[buoyant sigil]

Global already lacks reading comprehension and I’m scared it’s becoming worse

[vital kelp]

infinite carry sounds fun

[left tulip]

I just think he’s super lame in such a crazy way

[buoyant sigil]

I do feel like it’s the kind of overpowered that relies on numbers and lacks interesting aspects, but it comes down to preference at the end of the day

[vital kelp]

he has cool story tho

[left tulip]

That yes but the only thing he got from the story in gameplay is being broken nothing else

[vital kelp]

we have strong op and we have fun op, u can choose whoever u like to pull

[raw wigeon]

Idk I heard CN people complaining a lot about Wang banner stories maybe they're just always complaining

[vital kelp]

i didnt expect this from the person with wisadel pfp

[buoyant sigil]

Guess so. For both messages directly above, actually.

[raven ermine]

I'm going to be fair
Yes wisadel was very overtuned when she released
Yes, i think the lasting impact on the "casual" playerbase isn't good, leading them to rely on bypass mechanics from the game and not reading overall

No, wisadel isn't the culprit, and wang won't be either
We've had step by step guides from the beginning of the game basically, and we've had the "just surtr it" era, chen2 in every single guide borrows, then mlynar
Overall, the entry floor is just lower, but if you wanted to turn your brain off, there were plenty of ways

[left tulip]

It’s not necessarily being broken that annoys me

[raw wigeon]

Fk W not good

[vital kelp]

tell me how wisadel is more interesting than wang, u cant

[buoyant sigil]

Fair point. I’ll take this point of view into consideration going forward; thanks for the input on the topic.

[left tulip]

She is tho reading her kit is fun

[vital kelp]

reading wang kit is fun

[left tulip]

Hell nah it’s the same feeling you get when you feel abt to puke

[vital kelp]

hell nah thats what i feel when i read wis kit

[buoyant sigil]

She yells at our face over and over again in story in a way that very consistently annoys me but I’m heavily biased so

[mild yacht]

-# Reading is a myth, it can’t hurt you because it doesn’t exist.

[raven ermine]

:rat spray: or smth

[vital kelp]

do u have any actual argument against why wis = good wang = bad othe than just feelings and opinions on fun

[left tulip]

Wang both has the flattest kit ever and doesn’t look like a trap master whatsoever

[vital kelp]

wis has both the flattest kit ever and doesn't look like a sniper whatsoever

[left tulip]

I mean ultimately it’s an opinion what do you expect lol

[raw wigeon]

That's why we need the April Fool skin, so that everything becomes funny instead of annoying

[chilly apex]

what was the cn lineup for this stronghold protocol banner? did it change anything? the only thing i remember was that it had ulpipi

[left tulip]

And now you’re parroting an I really the one not being constructive, don’t ask

[vital kelp]

what does trapmasters even supposed to look like

[raven ermine]

Like dorothy

[vital kelp]

the r6 trapmaster has a gun, that didnt make her a sniper

[mild yacht]

Didn’t stop her from going pew pew.

[reef sparrow]

ela is just a sniper but bypass sniper class ban

[left tulip]

You’re on some nonsense now

[buoyant sigil]

Hopefully. Though I won’t really buy it, it’d make the E0/1 pot1 wiš look less out of place

[vital kelp]

im asking since you said "doesnt look like a trapmaster"

so tell me what does trapmaster look like

[reef sparrow]

well, as mentioned above, dorothy

[vital kelp]

the lower rarity trapmasters didnt look like dorothy

[buoyant sigil]

robin wulfenite dorothy ela frost. So mainly a woman with either a gun or some nasty devices that may or may not be from rhine lab storylines

[proven kelp]

Dorothy deploy traps
So does Wang

[raw wigeon]

They put traps on the road instead of throwing bombs to your face

[vital kelp]

they all deploy trap, i dont see the point where "doesnt look like trapmaster" is coming from

[random shard]

They already said it's just an opinion. There's not going to be logic behind it they don't like the character

[proven kelp]

My condolences

[reef sparrow]

wang defeats the purpose of how a trapmaster should be played, but this topic is kinda nonsense anyways

[buoyant sigil]

Is dorothy walled by high def

[proven kelp]

So how does a Trapmaster supposed to be played?

They deploy traps, that's what they meant to do

Wang deploy traps, what's the problem?
Whenever that trap is a nuke or not is irrelevant as in the end of the day, he's still deploying traps

[buoyant sigil]

actually i don’t know if she does arts or phys very well. i recall her kit said something about physical but my memory may be faulty

[crimson star]

which two healers should I use

[raven ermine]

No, doro s3 is arts, doro s2 is phys
And even if she didn't have damage, she has pretty good utility

[proven kelp]

Might as well

[timber finch]

if you can get them in 16 hours, probably at that point, yeah

[raw wigeon]

He can put traps right next to an enemy, and another trap is auto deployed under the enemy's feet and boom they die

[vital kelp]

no

[buoyant sigil]

Neat. Utility as in the chain explosions and range and everything or the s2

[raven ermine]

Utility as in slow/bind

[buoyant sigil]

Maybe both uh

[severe crypt]

Susurro and ptilopsis, also use reedalt as a caster

[vital kelp]

dorothy s1 mine has like insanely high DPH so no

[proven kelp]

Okay? And
That's still what a Trapmaster do, deploying traps

[fallow salmon]

exu alter cannot die by herself?

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh wait all her skills have use cases?

[vital kelp]

11k? something like that

[mild yacht]

-# Doro s1 def reduction

[crimson star]

so all three but reed as another caster, thanks

[vivid yew]

My account is roughly 2 months old. Anything to change on my roadmap here?

• E2 60 S3M3 Mod 3 Wisadel
• Mod 3 Pramanix
• Mod 1 Mantra
• E2 60 SA2
• E1 60 Gladiia, Silence, Saria
• E1 55 raised 3 stars (Fang, Kroos, Spot, Steward)
• Should i raise SA1?

[proven kelp]

S1 hits hard
S2 stall
S3 is a mix of both

[vital kelp]

bros kinda stacked for a 2 month account

[sullen loom]

Is exu worth building for anti air or should I just use the 3/4*?

[raven ermine]

Never had to use doro s1 yet tho, maybe i'll try it for fun

[proven kelp]

I don't see the point of this "Wang doesn't play as a Trapmaster" argument

[vital kelp]

mod1 pram only, mod3 not needed

[severe crypt]

Btw sash2 uses s3 mainly

[buoyant sigil]

Probably got logos, ray and ascalon from orienteering, mantra in her banner and naran in jo. Then proceeded to get both rateups and the roach in the limited
That’s my guess shrug

[vital kelp]

thats pretty stacked

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah, that’s much better than my similarly aged account

[vital kelp]

im not accusing anything im just saying its stacked

[nova cave]

Should i pull on the next banner just to get Ulpianus?

[buoyant sigil]

Seeing as I won’t pull until wang am I gonna start to accumulate resources instead of being poor in all fronts after I finish raising the operators in my priority list or am I gonna be always pretty starved for things

[raw wigeon]

Idk my common sense tells me one should predict how the enemy moves and put traps there and wait instead of throwing traps under their feet, not like it really matters though, it's just a game

[timber finch]

probably first one

[timber finch]

i mean throwing a trap at someone's face still hurt
all cal be viable

[severe crypt]

Yall have not played a single Battlefield game and it shows

[timber finch]

dont you throw landmines at people faces in thoses too?

[vital kelp]

liberator in dreams: Supposed to sit at back and chill until tough enemy comes
liberator in reality: throw in front of red gate and forgor til boss spawns

[vivid yew]

I'm a returning player. I know how to rush progression.

[severe crypt]

who said it was just conventional landmines

[plain hemlock]

which mod for Vina?

[timber finch]

tbh i thought that was how you play trapmaster in arknight too, throw trap at people

[raven ermine]

Depend what you set as your goals
Just the meta units and you'll have ample leeway pretty soon
Each thing you'll add on top will take you more time until you get out of poverty
Things being, base (e2s, combos, etc), niche units for IS, niche units for CC, niche units for RAcc, niche units just because, overall completion, etc

But yeah you'll be stacking lmd/exp at some point

[severe crypt]

It’s moreso that people’s definition of a trap/landmine being only for a small singular target is kinda reductive

[vital kelp]

i mean, ever since leviate was a thing people did the combo where they leviate and put dorothy mine under

i

[severe crypt]

I

[spare jetty]

i

[timber finch]

Yeah, mines should be shared with eachother

[raven ermine]

Mody 2+
Wouldn't recommend actually spending 8 modblocks on it

[buoyant sigil]

I see, I see. It’s good that I’ll at least have some time to spare to hoard some LMD.

[plain hemlock]

modblocks aren't an issue, thanks

[timber finch]

tbh you can also start to hoard if you build less and never fully max a char, since you save on 500k

talking of the last 30 lvs

[raven ermine]

That's assuming e260 btw
E2 90ing units is another goal on its own

[buoyant sigil]

On another note; thoughts on Contrail and Caper respectively? Despite everything, they don’t sound all bad for a 4 star shrug

Oh yeah yeah definitely. Uh, not looking to 90 anyone thank you

[timber finch]

isnt caper in baseslaves? thought i saw her once

[onyx mango]

Hey guys what's up

[solid plover]

Should I get Archetto?

[raw wigeon]

caper is a good 4 star sniper, not like you really need her anyway unless you're playing 4-star only teams

[raven ermine]

Both are decent 4*, contrail is even good in that regard
Not worth looking at unless you're a 4 star only player tho

[urban haven]

is any of them still worth to upgrade?

[random steppe]

Hello, i started the game 3 days ago is there is there any still valid redeem codes?

ty

[timber finch]

they dont do codes here

[buoyant sigil]

I see, I see. I’ve heard that Caper is a “worse narantuya”; while that’s certainly true, how do they measure against other 4*? Unfortunately the description doesn’t tell me much about the operator and I was quite curious

[quick jolt]

caper is one of the best 4star imo

[raven ermine]

Ange > swire for IS, hool if you're a turbo IS sweat
That's it, unless you're an RA player or a base sweat

[solid plover]

Or Ill save til 258 and buy tickets instead?

[onyx mango]

Ofc save smh

[late willow]

what do i do if i have 4000 yellow certs

[raven ermine]

You go to #salt-mines and get your validation there

[timber finch]

buy ops and pulls?

[arctic cargo]

are the daily pulls over? can i safely claim my 300 certs

[buoyant sigil]

I figure so yeah they’re over

[timber finch]

should be one tmrw before maint no?

[shadow bay]

no more daily pylls yeh

[quick jolt]

you get 570 pulls over the course of the next 15 months

[late willow]

so spend it all on HH?

[quick jolt]

unless you want a specific 6star yeah pre much. just the normal tickets ofc

[buoyant sigil]

(Be aware that it’s likely people like logos and ulpianus will be in the cert shop semi soon maybe we don’t have dates)

[quick jolt]

dont think he has to worry about saving with 4k certs

[raven ermine]

Didn't use caper much so i won't be able to help a lot
They're both on the high side of the 4* curve tho, without a doubt

[late willow]

ive been waiting for shop operators but i should probably spend maybe half of it on HH ar this point

[raven ermine]

Well who are you waiting for

[quick jolt]

can genuinely just buy whatever the fuck you want this entire year basically

[onyx mango]

What do you waiting for anyways

[late willow]

i think im waiting for about 5 ops over the next 2 years LOL

[buoyant sigil]

That’s really nice to hear. After I’m done with my priorities, I might raise one of the two if I have the spare resources 4* are cheap and I like to use them at times

[timber finch]

your soon is quite long

[raven ermine]

So it was validation all along

[late willow]

yeah kind of guilty ig

[timber finch]

when a char rerun, 50/50 one hes in shop too?

[quick jolt]

no, the shop is only for kernel and the rotating standard banners with 2 rateups

[knotty plank]

Its usually 3 Shop runs before an op gets banished to Kernel right

[timber finch]

well time to save for logos then

[quick jolt]

its based on amount of years its been since their release, not amount of times they've been in shop, but this does also seem to be an average amount of times they'll appear, yes

[oblique grail]

at what point skadi was worthy upgrading

[timber finch]

sash2 shenanigans
can do a neat 26k physical damage apparently

[oblique grail]

hmmm

||I don't have sash2 sadly||

[raven ermine]

And that's still not worth
No point in making your team worse by including skadi

[somber gate]

So, when any est when is logos coming to the cert shop?

[quick jolt]

sometime close to the end of this year

he released oct 30th 2024 and the average is 2 years after release, so

[somber gate]

...GOD SAKEE 😭😭

[oblique grail]

I wonder if i can get enough certs by that point

[timber finch]

most likely

[oblique grail]

i have 0

[raven ermine]

You can assume 35-40 certs per month

[quick jolt]

easily, yes, you can get 30-50 a month from recruitment alone if you go for 4star tags w/ a calculator

[somber gate]

Logos is still one of the strongest caster out there no?

[quick jolt]

hes top 2 at worst

[timber finch]

best with pram2 yeah

[oblique grail]

Competition aint high on that front so yes

[oblique grail]

Maybe top 3 at worst with lapp alter

[vital kelp]

lappter is no competition

[severe crypt]

Lapp is not better than logos

[gleaming tiger]

Should i remove myrtle if i got silverash2?

[severe crypt]

It’s pram, logos, huge ass gap then Lapp

[raven ermine]

Lappalter isn't even in the top 5 if you disregard gen content

[quick jolt]

hes the only vanguard you need, and if he somehow isnt, just use an agent vanguard

[gleaming tiger]

What skill is silver ash?

[quick jolt]

would even argue mantra>lapp lowkey

[oblique grail]

Who is top 5

[severe crypt]

Deadass forgot about mantra but sure

[quick jolt]

everyone forgets about mantra

[quick jolt]

s2>s3 if you mean alter

only s3 if you mean original silverash

[vital kelp]

logos pram ceobe mantra necrass or something

idk they all pretty ass

[severe crypt]

Isn’t sashter s3 first

[quick jolt]

for his mastery priority yeah but thats only because s2 masteries are genuinely dogshit

[severe crypt]

I thought s2 was more used in is and s3 everywhere else

[quick jolt]

maybe true but idt you can go wrong with s2 in gen content too

[raven ermine]

Heavily depend on the gamemode
But mantra ceobe mostima nymph, and even necrass to an extent are all better than lappalt for utility and it's not even close
Pram2 obviously up there
Add passenger to that if you're looking at RA

[severe crypt]

Lapp slander

[raven ermine]

uh ceobe isn't utility but you get what i mean

[oblique grail]

It just that original post said at worst so i assumed it's in context of scenario where he barely usable but aside from his range being high but not infinite idk what his weaknesses are

[reef sparrow]

Kay s1 tech

[vital kelp]

with enuff aspd relics s1

[oblique grail]

I heard enough

Time to e2 passenger

[raven ermine]

It's auto rec
But yeah with devices it can perma bind, very true
Devices that you have access to in RAcc

[quick jolt]

his main weakness is high res like all casters / most arts dealers in general besides like wang. hes also just, pure damage, unlike pram2

[somber gate]

Wait, wang kit is already out?

[quick jolt]

wang has been a operator released on CN for over 3 months

[raw wigeon]

Good choice, new RA coming out soon

[raven ermine]

Erm just be aware that his RA module isn't out yet, it should come out with wang

[somber gate]

Right, i mean i haven't read and i didn't know if he can ignore res

[quick jolt]

yeah he has 39 res ignore

[elfin rover]

is silverash alter skills worth to m3? if it is what would be the prio?

[somber gate]

Basically arts wisadel with stereoid

[quick jolt]

i mean he doesnt work the exact same, but he does do more damage than her

[timber finch]

would Ifrit buff decently Wang ?
since less res and all

[reef sparrow]

coping for wis delta corrosion mod

[quick jolt]

theoretically but you're limiting his massive range to just one lane, when his range is one of his biggest advantages

[timber finch]

i mean in the case you got something you REALLY want dead in that specific lane
nasti carry

[raven ermine]

Not really, he already has a lot of res ignore on his own, unless you're looking at 90 ish res enemies why even bother

[quick jolt]

wang does like ~160k damage alone w/ 39 res ignore so if he cant already kill the enemy idk wtf you're fighting

[timber finch]

idk i was thinking of that holy patriot boss tbh

[severe crypt]

That’s like an easy ass boss

[hexed adder]

Soloing h7-4 kinda speak loud of it

[raven ermine]

Is5 ed3 is a pushover

[quick jolt]

as far as im aware is5 is his weakest theme, but its also just a easy boss

[coarse gull]

Bros tryna summon IS boss

[timber finch]

i fear the disableds in this game not my fault
especially when they get undisabled

[fallow salmon]

texas alter s3 is main skill right?

[raven ermine]

s3 and s2 sometimes

[quick jolt]

s2 for st damage and res debuff but youll mostly use her for the aoe stun on s3

[vital kelp]

mrs boom

[fallow salmon]

gotchu, ty kings!

[shadow bay]

welcome

[severe crypt]

Wow rose is a king? News to me

[quick jolt]

i guess bro

[late willow]

green cert tier 3 is awful, right?

[quick jolt]

yeah dont bother. its not only a fuckton of certs with awful return rate, you also have to buy the 4/3star vouchers

[raven ermine]

Yes
The entry cost for it to even be worth considering is like 65k green certs iirc

[late willow]

damn

[quick jolt]

even then i wouldnt

[south fog]

Guys what is the name of website that let me see my chances to get a 6 star🤔

[quick jolt]

krooster.com has a pull probability calculator

https://www.krooster.com/tools/rateup

[south fog]

I gonna take a look thank you

[knotty plank]

Is Ave Mujica CC still worth using if the 5* aren't E2

[humble arrow]

cc?

[quick jolt]

if you're using them you should probably e2 them

[late willow]

i think im going to spend about half my yellow cert budget after my estimate for shop operators savings

[raven ermine]

If you don't have anything better
It's pretty low quality tho, and i definitely wouldn't e2 them for base

[knotty plank]

[timber finch]

is it additively to eachother or multiplicatively?
like a total of 25% or +5% then +5%

[late willow]

additive prob

[vital kelp]

add

[quick jolt]

additively

[timber finch]

eh still a pretty nice buff then actually

[quick jolt]

its alright

[timber finch]

i mean, 200 extra hp healed
makes a strong 1000 total burst

[oblique grail]

i still have to grind for his skin so it's fine

and other characters e2

[unreal garden]

What men should I pick from this selector?

[quick jolt]

mlynar

[unreal garden]

that was quick

[shadow bay]

i see miweenar

i say miweenar

[quick jolt]

looked for him specifically because until trag is added hes always the best choice

[buoyant sigil]

Mlynar and second best option is ulpi I assume

[raven ermine]

Depend
Ulpi is a bit below monster and asca imo

[quick jolt]

would be ines technically but i guess having silveralt changes that?

[buoyant sigil]

Oh no no, for men

[unreal garden]

Thank guys. Probs gonna pick mlynar for his base skill as well I guess

[shadow bay]

if ull restrict to people with schlongs sure

[quick jolt]

oh for men only yeah ig

[shadow bay]

more likely, mlynar and ulpi are the only candidates for picking on men

[buoyant sigil]

Unless you’re a thorns simp yeah

[raven ermine]

Ah well, yeah they're all bums outside of those 2

[shadow bay]

or u simp for that ... engineer dude who spawn funny machines

[severe crypt]

Don’t diss my goat the engineer monkey

[raven ermine]

When mlynar and ulpi are right there, smh 😔

[unreal garden]

Should I still pick mlynar if I already have her? forgot to add this into the picture

[timber finch]

two nukers better then one

[shadow bay]

something something 2 dps is better than 1

[buoyant sigil]

And tbh they’re pretty different ig

[unreal garden]

[buoyant sigil]

Leizi has more survivability to stay on places where most operators wouldn’t last long while Mlynar likes to be healed to keep taunting attacks for example

[rocky pilot]

Do you want two dollars or one dollar

[buoyant sigil]

Great analogy. Keeping it for myself for later use

[blazing marten]

is there any actice reddem codes

[shadow bay]

we dont do that here

[quick jolt]

we almost never get them lol, youll usually just get free shit sent to mail sometimes

[blazing marten]

ah ok

[vital kelp]

buy merch and u get redeem codes

[hexed adder]

Lava skin fr

[rocky pilot]

If you can even find a en version

[reef sparrow]

isn't the AH namecard theme from a code?

[rocky pilot]

Well there’s volume 2 and 3 I found when I am at klcc but I don’t know if is en or cn but most likely cn

[reef sparrow]

actually, how do you get it

[vital kelp]

buy merch(i dont even know if u can)

[hexed adder]

Last time its sold out ye, idk if they restock it (en)

[shadow bay]

#salt-mines message

something like this yeh

[gloomy ginkgo]

how can i know if a store has arknight merch in china ? is it the usual shop where theres everything or some specific pop up store

[mild yacht]

Both? You’re asking the wrong channel for that, though.

[hexed adder]

Yea they have officiall store, each server. Welp fckin reseller exist

[vital kelp]

i dont think yostar has physical store for arknights merch

they dont sell them offline either in china, only authenicate and badges and whatever

The books and stuff u order online on taobao

[gloomy ginkgo]

where could i ask that then idk

alright alrgiht

[vital kelp]

You get the art collection books offline ig, but not the settings collection volumes

[hexed adder]

Its online store ye ofc

[mild yacht]

Try #cn-lounge

[vital kelp]

Offline you only get expensive authenicates, badges, with luck dragon beans, acrylic standees

The books can only be bought online or second hand

[gloomy ginkgo]

i see

[visual geyser]

is it worth it to gamble in 3 selection banner

[rocky pilot]

If have enough pulls and good enough operators, yes
This time? Probably best not to

[visual geyser]

I have enough pulls for limited, I can even guarantee if I wanted to

who are the members then? I don't have any of them

[hexed adder]

Which ops missed, oh probably can gamble ulpi/trag. But welp trag rerun exist. And ulpi certs in future

[visual geyser]

I see, thanks, I guess I'll just wait for rerun

[rocky pilot]

Just save for wang banner while waiting

[hard cargo]

missing all 3, which one to buy? i can give krooster if needed

[hidden wolf]

Texas

[coarse gull]

Would go for mumu if i got sashter personally

[silver smelt]

theyre all giga washed but mumu is even more niche

[shadow bay]

more likely ull use texalter within these three here

[silver smelt]

u might use virt for cc/hcm every 2 years i guess

[vital kelp]

U will use virt for afkslop

[hard cargo]

aight ill just send the krooster link, seems like it would matter since im getting different answers

[hexed adder]

Except u know what are you doing yea just go with casual texas

[silver smelt]

im inclined to say texalt but she just gets statchecked

[hard cargo]

https://www.krooster.com/u/ready-scarlet-pony-652z

[young path]

does the banner end with today's daily reset?

[silver smelt]

id say virt then but like ehh

[hidden wolf]

Your account is so stacked already. Pick whoever tbh

[hexed adder]

E0 proviso bruh

[raven ermine]

We don't even need to look at the krooster
Texas > mumu > virt
But realistically there's only texas unless you're pushing some specific content

[silver smelt]

mumu over virt like what is mumu doing at all

[reef sparrow]

ya you might use virt some time than texas, texas is just uh

[coarse gull]

Pretty stacked acc

[vital kelp]

virt over mumu like what is virt doing at all

[shadow bay]

its rly a matter of what u need more within the 3

texalter is a handy frd unit that have aoe stuns, and ig can be source of arts st dmg
mumu is a vg that can bind enemies on skill(and reliable at that ngl), but may need an ideal clone target(like loopshooters/trapmasters)
virtuosa is still ur best necosis applicator in the game...

[hexed adder]

Just go with casual texas yea, dude is clueless

[silver smelt]

virt atleast has someniche usage, texas gets statchecked, mumu pretty irrelevant with the vgs they already have

[reef sparrow]

s2m3 ulp but not s3m3

[vital kelp]

best necosis applier when if ur only doing necosis is ass

[vital kelp]

@raven ermine are you seeing this mafu

[vital kelp]

bros clearly afk enjoyer if hes doing this, he should go for virt for afkslop

[worthy nacelle]

Should I upgrade my working rooms if I don’t even have the proper operator to put in there yet?

[hexed adder]

Also e2 ur proviso

[raven ermine]

what is virt doing in the first place is the question
Mumu has a 15s permabind, and the replenishing bodies are relevant here and there too

[reef sparrow]

virt + logos delta mod coper here

[shadow bay]

wdym... working room?

[silver smelt]

this is more of a question would you rather have a mid unit that you can use more of the time or a super niche unit that you'll get good use of every 2 years
i picked the latter

[hexed adder]

Trading post and factory yea, do 252 setup and see /baseskills for cheap common workers. U can also do staggering

[worthy nacelle]

Like the factories and trading post, I can upgrade them but I just don’t have any more good operator left to put in there once I upgrade it

[shadow bay]

if likes of ... factory pp and trading post...

ur goal for building base should be leaning with 252... also we have list for good slave to invest for early base set up

[oblique grail]

3 pram 0 silver

Should i abandon very few hope i have

[coarse gull]

Yall use 252?

[worthy nacelle]

All the slaves have been used up…, so I’m wondering is there point of upgrading until I get a good slave to put in there

[reef sparrow]

wcyd, you can swipe ig

[timber finch]

15h left but you were already quite lucky

[worn drift]

Have you clear all annihilations?

[silver smelt]

do ou even have a choice? looks like ur broke

[raven ermine]

The super niche unit is mumu here
I fail to see where you need virtuosa outside of coping DR and the weak util

[shadow bay]

i mean u just adhere to 252 set up

atleast u have main rotating team to starten up ur lmd income...

[silver smelt]

virt is the super niche unit , precisely for coping dr

[vital kelp]

u only pulled 54 tiems what did u expect

[shadow bay]

if u rly run out of units... just do random bs go with matching colors (but atleast put the effort of nitpicking high %)

[silver smelt]

but like eh these choices are so ass atp just pick waifu

[hexed adder]

Not prepared enough ig, grind or dip up to you. Cant hurt 1 more 6*

[oblique grail]

someone other than pram alter

Cuz 1st spook is funny but 2nd is concerning

[keen kayak]

Hello guys, I just got these operator from the event, is she good?

[frigid stream]

give up

[frigid stream]

would still buy her pots for the certs later on.

[oblique grail]

Also my vanguards if that mstters

[opal widget]

is the pull recommendation also for vets? I'm having second thoughts on pulling for pram2 (since she's not limited) and I've already gotten Sash2

[silver smelt]

just save for wang

[reef sparrow]

bro ur broke why are you even asking

[vital kelp]

wym vets, like do u deal with animal sickness?

[worthy nacelle]

Like the next best things I can use is beagles factory efficiency, I guess it’s better than nothing

[hexed adder]

If u low on pull might as well save, kinda whatever in ur state tbh

[oblique grail]

I prob can get few more pull i think

[frigid stream]

save brotato

[hexed adder]

1 more 6* surely

[reef sparrow]

I'd say it's a waste if you don't have enough for a soft pity

I don't think u can get 50+ pulls in a few hrs unless 💳

[shadow bay]

yeh just hold on to that if thats rly the case

later on where ur roster expands u may also get units that can be also good in base... although u rly dont minmax ur base until ur done raising most units for gameplay reasons (lower priority yeh)

[worthy nacelle]

So just don’t upgrade it yet?

[shadow bay]

nah just proceed setting up to 252... u would only do it one time anyway

[oblique grail]

max i can afford is monthly pass and that clearly not gonna drop me 50

[vital kelp]

pull til nothing

these pulls wont get u wang probably either way

[worthy nacelle]

Aight thanks

[hexed adder]

Yea not prepared enough, 54 pulls like less than default pulls, dude didn't play the game, maybe kept baited by random banner

[oblique grail]

I spent all on ave mujica for pots

[vital kelp]

last time i pulled til dry was mlynar with 237 pull bro i grinded so much

[oblique grail]

then was rarely playing ig

[hexed adder]

Thats enough gap to save

[reef sparrow]

up to you if u wanna risk pulling without reaching soft pity, it's risky but depends if it's worth for u. just saying it's a no for me

[raven ermine]

That sounds pretty weak, we have other options to bypass DR/high res def
Monster was used in CCB4 max risk for TD
Mumu was used for the bind in CCB3 max risk
Pretty sure the last time we used virt in max risk was CCB2 and iirc it was because of tile ban mostly

[vital kelp]

[rocky pilot]

I am expecting… actually I don’t even know what the hell his name is
Uh the upcoming welfare mystic caster to be the best one in his subclass

[reef sparrow]

Viy?

[chrome tiger]

bnn

[oblique grail]

Talking about ave pots

Can i grind enough tokens to max pot these

[shadow bay]

iirc necrosis also bypass dodge mechanic so that is another reason???

[frigid stream]

He looks mid to me

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah might have been for the dodge seaborns actually now that you mention it

[vital kelp]

try cc shop

i got my pots there

[silver smelt]

yeah idk theyre both super niche
pick whatever

[vital kelp]

im still missing one pot for mutsumi but whatever i got sakiko and nyamu

[opal widget]

what's the number of pulls I should be holding on to?

[chrome tiger]

it was for the dodge seaborn but like

iirc she was optimized out because ray can hit them too

[hexed adder]

If u cant obtain 1 more 6* in estimate might as well dip. U can go broke and still save enough for 3 months tbh

[vital kelp]

200 is a good stack

[rocky pilot]

I said the best in his subclass I never said good

[vital kelp]

Kalter is the worst in her subclass

[raven ermine]

Wasn't ray also used elsewhere for the clear ?
Idr ts was too long ago, i'll check arkrec

[shadow bay]

only remember her also killing grandpas

or is that ceobes job???

[hybrid bluff]

guys should I try to get trag ?

[shadow bay]

just wait for his solo banner rerun if he is only all u want

[chrome tiger]

yeah gramps has too much hp and def and res so only ceobe works there

[hybrid bluff]

I also want the archor guy as well

[gloomy acorn]

Which map is best to farm/get the 15 avalanche trigger system medal? im 2/15

[shadow bay]

just use all of it in one of ur autos

[chrome tiger]

take the avalance trigger item and use them in ur auto

[raven ermine]

it was ceobe's
Just checked arkrec, and unless i'm missing smth, the max risk record is 11 ops, there's one with and one without virt

[gloomy acorn]

i have one auto and it has 2 but never got triggered

[limpid yarrow]

im seeing 11 ops no virt rn

[shadow bay]

did u use it?

[gloomy acorn]

yes i used 2/3 but maybe its cuz it never got triggered?

[limpid yarrow]

ok i see both
still both 11 ops

one of them has ebenholz and thats really funny so we're going with that one instead

[shadow bay]

i use the net that prevent avalanche, in an auto, and yep i dod get the medal no problem

[gloomy acorn]

maybe ill redo the auto and place it in spots itll actually trigger, im farming OS-8 but maybe ill redo another auto

[gloomy acorn]

which one you farming?

[shadow bay]

rma stage

[gloomy acorn]

oh i see its the os-8 one

[shadow bay]

u do u... 66% is good odds...

although if u only missing trag and ulpi, i would hold back since that still 33% chance for a pot lol

ofc... this is assuming u would rly proceed and rich enuf to gamble in the banner

[reef sparrow]

there's another RMA farming event coming, might wanna try farming other mats btw

[gloomy acorn]

have too many of it, always needing those dang yellow stars

[shadow bay]

im not worry with sugars since u tend to have a lot of t1-t2 of them....

and well... fluid is just horrendous to farm... even if u need them i find green certs suffice already

but ig cant hurt to stock sugar if low on stocks

rma just annoying to farm while also being demanding

[wraith shoal]

he'll be in cert shop, wait for that

[hoary ruin]

When it comes to Intelligence Certs, how many are the op skins worth? 500 event currency is a lot so I'm wondering if I should be buying grindstones instead.

[limpid yarrow]

i dont think you get purple certs for skins

[raven ermine]

The skins are already a rerun, they'll be added to the yellow cert shop afterward and be unobtainable outside of it afaik

[hoary ruin]

Ahhh ok, so the op skins won't be in the rerun's shop. That answers that.

[shadow bay]

yeh u only get int certs in furnitures upon rebuying

[shadow bay]

also blue certs if i remember it right but yeh

[wanton meadow]

Mods

[shadow bay]

<@&586570970345635868>

[primal chasm]

[wanton meadow]

Ty mods

[frosty aurora]

not the content creator

[radiant wyvern]

is it possible to get 252 yellow certificate twice between kalsit banner (i have 180 now)

[primal chasm]

Sonnn

[silver smelt]

the real content creation

you dont get it that was actually mr beast

[shadow bay]

its possible when u spend a lot of pulls and most of ur units are p6... and well ur lucky hitting 5 and 6 stars frequently

[raven ermine]

Pulling on wang should net you around 0.8 to a bit more than 1 per pull
Outside of that, you can assume 40-ish per month for recruitment (actually a bit higher than that, but might as well go on the conservative side)

[radiant wyvern]

okay ty!!

[proven swan]

guys should i pull for pramanix alter? i already got silverash though

[shadow bay]

its most likely a just save angle... but still depends on how rich u are and how badly u want her???

pram alt is a standard unit so she is more bound to rerun in random banners, and ig spook offrate

[unreal garden]

Will Aak prioritise attacking Mlynar due to his taunt trait?

[oak vector]

i reached 200 pulls rn on the current limited banner, who do i spark for? nearl alter or skadi alter.

[shadow bay]

should be

[odd sky]

skadi alt

[shadow bay]

i found this whole reddit explaning aak targeting btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/i1byw5/aaks_s2_and_s3_target_prioritization/

so as i get it... it will only bypass mlynar taunt if he is in the outside part of aak range and someone is in front of his range, coz he apparently still priority ops in front of him

[mild yacht]

I’m pretty sure we tested this a while ago as well with whether taunt even worked and where ambushers fit in the targeting.

[odd sky]

taunt takes prio regardless of position yea

[mild yacht]

-# There was so much Manticore abuse that day.

[lethal chasm]

What's about wisadels?

[shadow bay]

and about the lesser taunt??? will they also get untouched unless they are the only units?? or they still take priority since they sit in front of aak?

[raven ermine]

This is about the skins from the event shop
skins are not added to cert shop, but they will return, at some point

[odd sky]

untouched

i will abuse kirara this bc why not

[mild yacht]

I remember switching Manti and Mlynar one in front of the other and he’d go after Mlynar every time.

[shadow bay]

and then theres the wisadel... uhh...mm.. premium skin... ig since it bound to 💳

[neat acorn]

Son

[lethal chasm]

Oh lol sorry

[neat acorn]

Wish we could move the ui too

[severe crypt]

You can move borders

[thorny edge]

doctors without borders

[rocky pilot]

When did this get political

[severe crypt]

Did I really have to specify screen borders

[rocky pilot]

I am still half asleep

[neat acorn]

I don't think i've done annihilation once in 5 months

[urban sleet]

[frigid stream]

RA glowstick takes how long again

[untold snow]

Chat should i up silverash alt or kalsit first sometimes i need kalsit 3x5 range

[neat acorn]

Sash2

[reef sparrow]

5-6 hrs they say took me 3-4 days cuz I got bored easily everytime

[neat acorn]

I fell for the s2 propoganda

[amber root]

Is reed alter worth getting for gold tickets?

[severe crypt]

Not really, especially cuz she’s free in around 6-7 months

[amber root]

She is?

[neat acorn]

Say that again

[severe crypt]

Yeah via free 6 star selector

[hoary ruin]

Is there a site/youtube channel/etc with skin demos (like during combat)?

[urban sleet]

Tsalthsu/riverv workshop do those I think

[lethal chasm]

Does anyone know what stage this is? I keep seeing it used as a showcase

[urban sleet]

HCM LS-4

[rose mist]

Gracebearer S1 or S2?

[cinder glen]

is it worth leveling this character to Elite 2? I just heard that her third skill hits aerial targets, but maybe I didn't understand it correctly because my English is extremely weak

[lethal chasm]

Thanks!

[ancient lintel]

Uh she's okay, and yes you should e2 her assuming you dont have any other priorities
Yes her s3 hits air

A lot of people are capable of doing things that they should never be able to

[somber gate]

Can't hold my gamble side, so she kinda meh since she is powercrept noh?

[ancient lintel]

More like she's borderline useless cause outside of afk qol there's not much use

[somber gate]

Worth raising to e2?

[cinder glen]

spasibo

[ancient lintel]

If ur a fan of ishar mla and have no other priorities, why not lol

[radiant wyvern]

shes really fun

[urban sleet]

Her only not-bad skill is s3 so yeah

[somber gate]

I mean, i don't think i have anyone to upgrade currently lol

[pseudo lotus]

are there any specific story stages i should aim to clear first to unlock farming stages? i was trying to clear all main+side stories in order but realized id be locked out of certain upgrade materials

[somber gate]

So what she do exactly? Heal? Or damage or something?

[ancient lintel]

Buffs, heal, funny true dmg and even more buffs, and damage sharing, that's kinda it

[radiant wyvern]

I wonder why she isnt in abyssal hunter

[slender cave]

what event?

[severe crypt]

Kal alt event

[slender cave]

ah alr ty

[ancient lintel]

Read underties 🥀

[glass mango]

Because this is Ishma Mla
She is no longer Skadi

[mental gull]

when's masses travels rerun? it's still not in the roadless camelot

[ancient lintel]

Like at least 7 months from now? Even CN hasnt rerun it yet lol

[mental gull]

Nice

[urban sleet]

Its after 7th anni in CN

[glass mango]

Or lets say that thing is Ishma Mla
That thing only refer to it as "Skadi" who is commonly known for Doctor

[cursive maple]

who was welfare in lapp2 event?

[dark prism]

clownslayer

[ancient lintel]

Slayer of crowns

[mental gull]

is crownslayer good?

[somber gate]

May i know what do we get from this selector?

[cursive maple]

70 gold certs??

[dark prism]

she has a crowd-control niche with the mod

[ancient lintel]

She's "okay" at best, requires e260 mod1

[severe crypt]

It was various ops uhh, reedalt mizuki pozy passenger mudrock and like 3 others

[raven ermine]

it's not mod1, it's mody3

[mental gull]

would crownslayer have a place here?

[coarse notch]

lmao no

[hoary ruin]

The Kal2 selector was basically Reed 2 and a bunch of other old ops. Wasn't it like all kernal ops minus Reed2?

[urban sleet]

Crownslayer is too niche and needs too much investment, not recommended for the average playrr

[mental gull]

Lol ok but how bout ines or ascalon

[ancient lintel]

Seaborn femboi, banana's younger sis, pissenger, ourlight, mudmud, durin lover and ye

[coarse notch]

yes, eject your 5 stars

[hoary ruin]

Ah wait, Pozy's not Kernal. I think the others besides Reed2 were tho.

[urban sleet]

Kal2 selector ops:

• Reed2
• Pozy
• Suzuran
• Saileach
• Surtr
• Mudrock
• Passenger
• Mizuki

[cursive maple]

mizuki ez

[ancient lintel]

Mutsumi and wakaba needs to go 🥀

[cursive maple]

ros

[mental gull]

but for crownslayer... she defo doesn't have a place huh.. can't replace range expanders

[worn drift]

If I dont have any of em which one is the most worth to select?

[ancient lintel]

Ofc not

[sterile ledge]

I have pot 3 ros, and every other option is pot 1, who should I go for?

[ancient lintel]

Suzu or mizuki

[split sphinx]

Reed2

[hoary ruin]

Yeah I think most people will end up grabbing Reed2 or Mizuki. If you have both of them already maybe Suzu or Pozy? Sail as 5th choice...?

[coarse notch]

reedic or mizuki

[urban sleet]

doesnt really mattee then
Can also go for snow hunter dupes for more gold certs

[raven ermine]

tf is bro gonna do with a suzu

[severe crypt]

Let’s not ask that 🥹

[cursive maple]

lol

[coarse notch]

time to start working on p6 ros for is5

[split sphinx]

🦜 gaming

[neat acorn]

How do i fill up the weekly reward in the annihilation thing

[ancient lintel]

Dont make it sound weird bruh 🥀
it's not like I'm in the files ya know what I'm sayin

[urban sleet]

[coarse notch]

clear the anni

[split sphinx]

Farm the permanent maps / saltfin

[hoary ruin]

I mean who would you recommend if someone already has Mizuki and Reed2 (for that selector)?

[mental gull]

does silverash alter and pram alter make it into the meta territory?

[raven ermine]

surtr suzu
Or passenger if they're an RA player
But read the context

[neat acorn]

Both are good

[radiant wyvern]

sailach pot for investment

[coarse notch]

very into it

[undone portal]

saileach for ccb5 surely

[raven ermine]

Yeah or saileach if they push CC ig

[mental gull]

Only silverash alter makes it cuz he is on par with ines?

[coarse notch]

how'd you get that from both are good

[ancient lintel]

Uh they definitely did
Pram dethroned logos and sash is on par with ines

[undone portal]

-# watch ccb5 be back to agent gaming again

[urban sleet]

Bro said 'both' this guy reads 'only one'

[neat acorn]

Pram is the afk queen too

[coarse notch]

cant wait for the return of -10 dp on deploy risk in ccb5

[ancient lintel]

My sarkaz goat is washed 🥀

[cursive maple]

more like overall best caster

[raven ermine]

That sounds like an insult to pram for some reason

[untold snow]

Ros? I perfer someone who can do base stuff btw

[coarse notch]

they all suck at base except for ros funnily enough

[ancient lintel]

Ros is part of exodia so ye

[mild yacht]

Ros can do base stuff.

[coarse notch]

i find it unlikely you'll be able to utilize her for base tho

[raven ermine]

W for sniper m3 trainer

[neat acorn]

[undone portal]

ros does base stuff if youve built other exodia members

[untold snow]

Ehmmm

[mild yacht]

W only makes Hoe do base stuff.

[undone portal]

rosmo is already a competent factory worker if you happen to own an e2 ebenholz :ya:

[mental gull]

ur saying she's the new best caster?

[coarse notch]

pretty much yes

[untold snow]

I dont think i got any exodia

[ancient lintel]

It might be ngl
Since it's yan based I'm expecting hit count stuff
And it's gonna be a pain if there's aspd debuffs 🥀

[cursive maple]

logos wishes he was pram2

[neat acorn]

Is their even a meta for arknights

[coarse notch]

yes

[raven ermine]

Glad you agree now

[winter mist]

Is there an estimate on when CC #5 comes out?

[coarse notch]

everything has a Most Effective Tactic Available

[mental gull]

Logos is my husbando wawawawaawawaaaaa nooooooo

[hoary ruin]

It's more or less who's "best" at doing certain roles in combat.

[cursive maple]

?

[urban sleet]

Announced in 7th anni stream, no dates tho

[ancient lintel]

Maybe ascalon will have cc record in CCB5

[coarse notch]

you can use logos just fine hes still a very strong caster

[winter mist]

So very far in the future then

[untold snow]

Soo w for training sniper which i only have kroos or ros for some reason idk?

[undone portal]

oh no logos is the 2nd best caster now what will you do

[coarse notch]

please do not spark w for sniper m3

[untold snow]

Ok ok

[undone portal]

spark rosmo for base/is
spark someone else if you have a favoritism angle

[raven ermine]

I was joking, who cares about m3 trainers
Well i do, but uh

[south fog]

Guys only nian and dusk gonna cost 200 head hunting contract in wang baner ?

[ancient lintel]

I mean, he's still the 2nd best caster
And dmg wise he's still a bit better than pram iirc

[urban sleet]

Ling too apparently

[undone portal]

ling isnt until next suibling

[neat acorn]

Pram freezes the air in saltfin wth

[untold snow]

I dont think i have any spark 🤡

[hoary ruin]

Even VS Pram2 S3?

[ancient lintel]

According to the DPS bot yes

[south fog]

They could put shu a 200 to 🥹

[urban sleet]

[raven ermine]

The thing is, pram doesn't need an elem proc to compete damage wise

[coarse notch]

she also has true aoe

[split sphinx]

pram2 doesn't have to walk on eggshells around tragussy 🧠

[undone portal]

and better res ignore
nvm thought she had 15. logos is better here

[reef sparrow]

did I fucked up

[neat acorn]

Nah you got thus

[ancient lintel]

Wait pram has stats shred?

[urban sleet]

10 res ignore

[raven ermine]

res ignore on s3

[ancient lintel]

Oh ok

[coarse notch]

logos talent2 is technically still better because its shred not ignore but its the same value

[ancient lintel]

I mean at least logos isnt like completely dethroned (I might wanna take this back ngl)

[raven ermine]

This map is basically a dps race
You can somewhat cycle your ops when dragon passed, and you're safe for one or two laps, but depending on drafts/relics it might not be an option

[proven kelp]

Logos washed

[raven ermine]

Finally, i was so tired of s1m3 rec

[ancient lintel]

[humble arrow]

pramanix s3 is surprisingly strong

[split sphinx]

it's mostly s3m3 rec in here for logussy

[raven ermine]

unsurprisingly strong*

[undone portal]

icl logos s1 never felt that good

[silver smelt]

Hoshi2 victim map

[ancient lintel]

I mean, it's a decent afk skill so why not

[split sphinx]

instakill slugs on sight so goated

[silver smelt]

decent afk skill.. so .. ass? The bar is in hell

[raven ermine]

Why tf is afk a thing when s3 performs better in 99% of cases

[silver smelt]

People are stupid
And they play the game wrong

[honest estuary]

How to get intelligence certificate

[humble arrow]

logos s1 isnt even good the execute is flashy but not practical

[raven ermine]

S1 is the shitter handler, unless you have crazy enemy density, you won't care for it

[undone portal]

absinthe s1 powercreep waow

[dark prism]

furniture from reruns that you bought during first run

[honest estuary]

Oh ok

[neat acorn]

Why do some enemies just ignore my prama

[cursive maple]

also the missions of the event if you alr did them before like clear pb-ex-1

[dark prism]

special targeting or you have mlynar placed

[humble arrow]

wait what happens when you place mlynar

[neat acorn]

Targeted

[woven fjord]

he has taunt

[light latch]

He taunts

[humble arrow]

oh ok

[hoary ruin]

He as taunt as one of his talents, so enemies will be more likely to target him regardless of deployment order.

[cursive maple]

unless special targeting

[humble arrow]

i thought he was asking about ignoring the lure because sometimes stuff ignores the lure and idk why either

[neat acorn]

My mlynar always dies first

[raven ermine]

Well are they lure immune ?
The stags from the event are

[cursive maple]

The stuff which is alr in her range hets lured, the stuff that enters her range after the skill activation doesnt

[humble arrow]

Lure immune in her own event thats crazy

[cursive maple]

also what mayu said is true

[dark prism]

Yeah, just initial activation pretty sure

[undone portal]

lure immune enemies in her debut event is kinda wild actually
imagine if act or die had that

[cursive maple]

thats why tragodia is the goat

[humble arrow]

don't they have the same lure so same immunities?

[undone portal]

it just means tragodia debuted from a position of privilege :realmad:

[cursive maple]

i meant the "cant lure after activation" part

[warm marten]

Which one should I up first, E2 pramalter or hoshalter?

[coarse notch]

hoshi

[undone portal]

hoshi first

[humble arrow]

hoshi, e1 pram first though

[pale tapir]

pramerita works alright at e1
hoshi alt is a bum at e1

[warm marten]

How about pram e2? Worth it or ok?

[humble arrow]

Def

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, for mod unlock and mastery

[undone portal]

worth doing, just get to hoshi first

[hoary pendant]

I have a question is archetto worth it to get

[undone portal]

not unless you actively play is for fun

[coarse notch]

probably not unless you're really into IS

[hoary pendant]

I can buy her in the shop and I like IS

[humble arrow]

it depends on what archetto synergies you have too

[hoary ruin]

Both of them are worth E2, Mastery, Mod, etc, but Pram2's main skill is S2 and Hoshi2's main skill is S3, hense Hoshi2 first.

Both units are very good though.

[neat acorn]

For fun

[pale tapir]

do you have offensive recovery ops that work with her

[hidden wolf]

Is 190 pull possible until wang banner from now?

[neat acorn]

Yes

[undone portal]

190 is a very easy goal in 3months

[coarse notch]

do note that shes a tier below meta in IS in most cases and absolutely worthless outside of IS

[neat acorn]

You can get 300

[random kestrel]

chetto huh
play her as core is fine but have to tell you only a few can make an advantage from chetto kit and her IS mod

[woven fjord]

most of which are guards

[undone portal]

i cant really recommend archetto comp unless you own sakiko/mon3tr

[hoary pendant]

Yes hoederer Ines sakiko lemuen exualter, Walter and Tragodia

[coarse notch]

only sakiko is really that notable with her, you have mon3tr?

[hoary pendant]

There are some others as well

[hoary pendant]

Nope Skipped her for tragodia and exualter

[lyric lagoon]

how is bro getting away with advertising another game with his user

[undone portal]

owning all 4 of sakiko/mon3tr/hoederer/lemuen is when i would say you should think about it

[hoary pendant]

Who?

[woven fjord]

m3, saki, degen, may, sneg (somewhat but not great cause of sp lockout), etc.
i do a little shenangians with astegenalt s2 as well

[lyric lagoon]

just scroll up

[hoary pendant]

Oh I see it

[warm marten]

Why is this dorm decoration theme still up to purchase? I already purchased it before tho?

[coarse notch]

i think you should hold off on chetto, enabling mon3tr is her biggest boon

[coarse notch]

so you can buy it again, some sets are like that

[woven fjord]

not necessaily, and thats really only in is5 until dlc2 for is6. even then you have higher prio picks with m3 instead of cheeto

[lyric lagoon]

cause you can buy multiple of the ones that don’t have event exclusive pieces

[undone portal]

hows irene in chetto comp btw havent heard much about it since shes kinda a helidrop now

[hoary pendant]

Okay I will just save for a new limited or mantra later down the line

[pale tapir]

lets u decorate multiple rooms with same theme

[coarse notch]

i dont think chetto is good in is5

[undone portal]

chettos awesome in is5 what

[random kestrel]

and yeah main chetto mean gonna have the other ops mentioned before to optimized it

[coarse notch]

unless you're forcing degen shotgun i dont see why you'd draft her

[woven fjord]

thats where shes most viable (we dont count dlc1 is6)

[humble arrow]

Not optimal

[undone portal]

is5 is like, her best environment

theres free marksman hand even

[coarse notch]

i would argue shes better in is2 against ed4

[hoary ruin]

Huh. I didn't think about using M3 with chetto. I'll have to remember that for later.

[woven fjord]

firework comp functions as a playstyle, just less consistent then other comps

[undone portal]

i know what chetto does not what i asked

[woven fjord]

irenes mod has like no corelation with cheetos off rec

[lyric lagoon]

they asked for performance not what her mod does

[coarse notch]

fireworks comp is a tier below meta and requires a lot more skill to pilot

[true pagoda]

what is this?

[undone portal]

ig irene is mod is spending too much time undeployed to be contributing to chettos range too often

[coarse notch]

ed5

[woven fjord]

i mean no one said it was meta, that doesn't mean its not good/does its job. and is2 isnt real

[coarse notch]

i think its just fine

[humble arrow]

ending 5 relic, it spawns in a ghost that attacks you and gives 1 collectible when leaked

[coarse notch]

good enough to use if you're really dedicated but otherwise no point in trying to force it

[undone portal]

fireworks starts feeling stronger than normal teamcomps once you finish the relic stacking tbh

[lyric lagoon]

it’s just disappointing to think of how much better it could be if it had less limitations

[undone portal]

its the enroute that makes it harder to run

[coarse notch]

well every teamcomp facerolls if you've successfully stacked relics

[woven fjord]

yea but they arent forcing it if theyre playing for fun

[humble arrow]

whats the current meta in is5 anyways?

[coarse notch]

i think ive lost the plot, how'd we get here from them lacking mon3tr

[woven fjord]

and the original point was that cheeto comp isnt strictly tied to m3

[woven fjord]

it was this

[coarse notch]

its obviously not tied to mon3tr but i think not having m3 is the biggest loss of any of the ops she enables

[undone portal]

i dont think is5 meta ever shifted away from flinger comp
expansions just changed the meta squad type from blueprint to ingots

[coarse notch]

snp, vgg, sescort, ingots are the top 4

fct, trees, chetto, and other random stuff also exist

[humble arrow]

no like the units

[coarse notch]

each of the top 4 have their own units but the universally strongest operator is mon3tr

[humble arrow]

right

[undone portal]

same as usual. wis/rosmo for rumble, silverash/sakiko for gvg, mon3tr in general

[humble arrow]

no trag hoshi?

[woven fjord]

i dont fully understand but i have a feeling this is boiling down to semenatics and we arent actually saying anything all that different

[knotty basin]

as a mid game player, should i try to pull for Ulpianus/Tragodia or for Nasti?

[coarse notch]

probably

[pale tapir]

I mean blud left 5 min ago

[undone portal]

defsupp is kinda weirdchamp in is5 unless you really lean into angelina

[silver smelt]

Pull for Wang

[coarse notch]

trag is excellent
hoshi is nonexistent unless you're fishing for a tanky body

[humble arrow]

ulpi trag is amazing if you have excess pulls for the next limited

[coarse notch]

non lamp squads all try to take trag at some point and fct opens with trag

[hoary ruin]

Nasti isn't a recommended pickup. Kit too niche, due to how long it takes to upgrade the plaform to max.

[silver smelt]

even if she made the platform instantly its still eh

[woven fjord]

to add on here for anybody else, heres a sample draft of what ingot abuse sqaud looks like

[hoary ruin]

If she didn't need to cast skill 3 times it might be different. Like at least then you could just cast her skill once and retreat her.

[humble arrow]

do people still draft eyja alt for quilon or

[woven fjord]

fuh no

[coarse notch]

only gvg rarely

[random kestrel]

depend on your current roster
if based on your question i easily say skip and all in when wang banner up

[coarse notch]

everyone just takes mon3tr now because shes john is5

[woven fjord]

i thought most gvg players play a talons style now with exu alt and m3

[humble arrow]

mon3tr cant heal on her own tho right

[silver smelt]

why not

[humble arrow]

theres 2 on both sides iirc

[coarse notch]

i think so yea

[silver smelt]

what about hoe

[coarse notch]

idk what goes on in that eyanx fellow's mind

[coarse notch]

you only heal the flowers on the top middle and just ignore the rest

[wintry garnet]

I want to buy some lmd from phase 3 cause I'm broke, how much it costs to buy whole phase 2?

[humble arrow]

interesting

[coarse notch]

oh and the ones in the bottom depending on how your crystal positions and where you're killing quilon

[woven fjord]

the guys that one controversial scholar in a field that gets footnoted 18 billion times because of his work

[coarse notch]

no IS runs allowed until blood alcohol is above a certain number

[quick jolt]

ingots has to reroll for the 2 hope start right

[reef sparrow]

out of the 2 in the phase 3 and you want lmd? madman
but here you go

[limpid yarrow]

he moved on from exu alt to play lovely tragodia gem

[hoary ruin]

In all honesty the upcoming orienteering banner is kinda dead. 66% for ulpi or trag is decent but....there's no meta choice for the 3rd slot so you have a 33% chance to get someone you probably won't use.

Unless you've still got most of your SA2 stash left, I say skip. Trag's getting his rerun in like 7ish months and Ulpi will probably be in the shop this year.

[coarse notch]

where is this man going next, nobody knows

[signal brook]

how do I see upcoming distinction operators?

[quick jolt]

you dont

[reef sparrow]

that's the neat part

[signal brook]

aw

I want to get nastii with my distinctions, but I also want degenbrecher if she comes back

[humble arrow]

you can look for the cn schedule and cope maybe

[random kestrel]

hahaha
if want shoperator treat your gold certs at 0 (when actually have 180 min)

[reef sparrow]

nasti didn't debuted bro

[coarse notch]

gonna be over 2 years before nasti so uh

[pale tapir]

uhhh
nasti won't be in shop for a long time

[quick jolt]

operators will debut in shop for the first time roughly 2 years after release, generally in release order, but aside from that you cant predict it. nasti wont be there for over 2 years, degen should be there later this year

[waxen flame]

how long until retracing our steps s stages?

[thick token]

Should i buy la pluma from cert shop? I heard she's gud

[humble arrow]

nah

[pale tapir]

she's good but not worth 45 certs

[hoary ruin]

OK for new accounts, not really otherwise.

[thick token]

Ok

[signal brook]

I'm considering buying the 37 pulls before the month ends
that way I can buy it again if I don't get nastii with my orundum

[reef sparrow]

+12 hrs after reset later iirc

[pale tapir]

how many gold certs do you have
also it's 38

[signal brook]

oh okay that's great, all I needed to know

[signal brook]

I have 380, @quick jolt thank you very much

[pale tapir]

you would need 516 to buy the 38 pulls twice

[reef sparrow]

u can buy now tbh, then while pulling later on nasti u get more gold cert

[pale tapir]

in other words it doesn't matter if u buy this month or next month because you don't have enough to buy out twice

[signal brook]

I want to do that, but I also want to be sure that I can buy brecher later too

[reef sparrow]

it does matter if he's planning to pull for next month tho

[humble arrow]

u prolly will get 180 in time for degen if you have 380 now

[scenic sorrel]

what are all the operators with global range? asking cause im lazy (excluding towers never returning)

[pale tapir]

if his pulling is somehow gonna get him 136 gold certs then sure it matters

[reef sparrow]

wrong game ig

[robust thistle]

What are you talking about

[signal brook]

right, I thought I could buy a second time with my nastii pulls

[humble arrow]

Towers 😭

[robust thistle]

The bloonsTD server is that way sir

[humble arrow]

whats next, monkeys?

[reef sparrow]

tbf this is tower defense game

[signal brook]

maybe I'll just get insanely lucky? 🥹

[thorny edge]

js way more interactive than any other tower defense game icl

[scenic sorrel]

sigh there

[robust thistle]

Yeah I think youre in the wrong server

[reef sparrow]

ok so not wrong game
he meant operators with global range

[signal brook]

lappland, goldenglow, ambriel

[humble arrow]

global theres lappland, goldenglow, ambriel

[timber finch]

eyjafallah alter with s3
he never precised they had to do damages

[scenic sorrel]

so I didn't miss any. Damn

[thorny edge]

depending on ur definition of global we also have ela and dorothy and wang

and shit like robin, frost

[humble arrow]

tragodia

[thorny edge]

ehhhhh i think tragodia leans into the category where pozyomka would have to be considered to have global range

[random kestrel]

the ol silence, shamare, perfumer, summoner if want to count that too

[humble arrow]

honestly all the executors feel like global range when you use them

[thorny edge]

and since operators are just slow executors

[reef sparrow]

this is getting into another dimension

[scenic sorrel]

one more question, is lappland's alter as good as it seems? cause it feels too good to be true, from the ones I've used as support units

[woven fjord]

you already know whos draft this is