help

[spare jetty]

infact texalt is much weaker than yato2

[chilly vigil]

Even if I dont plan on using her?

[wide gull]

i thought saving was good idea but limiteds can still be obtained in future right? like lappy alter and muelsyse

[split sphinx]

save for hobo'sadel

[ebon wedge]

Bet, S2 is the AFK skill right?

[solar onyx]

can you move pos of these? is my emulator's "hold" just not working?

[nimble kite]

Yes. Even worthless welfare will serve you well as Gold Cert refund machine.

[pale glen]

They will return as sparks and offrates just like this time

[ancient lintel]

Complete control center's upgrade

[nocturne laurel]

we went from wisadel to wangsadel to kalsadel, whats next, elementalsadel?

[surreal wing]

Best pick is skadi I assume? Already got rosmontis

[nocturne laurel]

yea

[spare jetty]

elemsadel isn't real

[surreal wing]

Kalter does dps? Thought she was a support

[ancient lintel]

Elementalsadel is just wisadel with corrosion mod trust

[nocturne laurel]

her s2 deals true dmg aoe and heals and is ammobased

[grizzled galleon]

sariasadel trust

[ancient lintel]

Watch as wifeadel reign supreme again with her corrosion mod

[surreal wing]

Sheesh, better than mon3tr?

[pale glen]

Surtrter

[chilly vigil]

Ah that's the point behind it, thank you guys! I gotta buy all of them I suppose

[grizzled galleon]

no values yet

[nocturne laurel]

it looked like 5k dmg per hit but they could change

[surreal wing]

Oh yea didn't release yet mb

[pale glen]

True damage aoe💀

[ebon wedge]

Jesus christ e290 is so expensive. Do we have an optimal stopping point in levelling ops up?

[ancient lintel]

Dont know
People been saying 4k8 per bullet and u get 10 so total dmg is a bit lower than mon3tr? Cause mon3tr is around 60k

[ancient lintel]

E260?

[ebon wedge]

Is that the point where levelling up is no longer worth the cost?

[nocturne laurel]

yeah but mon3tr has max target count of 3 and kalsit has true aoe

[median fable]

btw, it's niche af

[surreal wing]

Yes, very minimal increases and massive lmd requirements

[ancient lintel]

Wait kal is real aoe?

[knotty plank]

Its when Module System is unlocked for 6* Operators

[nocturne laurel]

yeah looks like a 3x3 circle area

[ancient lintel]

Well that's gonna be a whole different story then

[surreal wing]

Oh wow that's crazy

[odd sky]

rarity x 10 basically

[ebon wedge]

oh that's nice to remember thank you

[pale glen]

The repositioning mechanic though🔥

[ancient lintel]

True aoe with true dmg sounds really good
and then reality kicks in when her numbers came out

[chilly vigil]

Are those thank you celebration packs worth it?

[abstract mauve]

yk kal2 is also always on take-off so she should rarely if ever die

[median fable]

another "niche af" mechanic

btw, niche != bad

[abstract mauve]

ok but people glaze tf out of exu2 s3 but this is literally just 3x better

[pale glen]

We have wang for deleting enemies anyways, still cool though

[nocturne laurel]

silverash2 mumu ulpianus kalsit2 combo trust

[near steppe]

Y'all since SA alter released, between Phantom ( original) and crownslayer, Which one is be useful in most scenarios?

Need to use his SA Alter S2 synergy well so help me out in a bit 🙏

[reef sparrow]

do they return to original position after skill duration?

[median fable]

people who glaze Exu2 s3 are the ones who consider it good for Hoshi2
I glaze Exu2 s3 because douple tp with Yu, we're different

[spare jetty]

phant over cs in relicless gaming in IS

[nocturne laurel]

crownslayer for non IS
phantom for IS

[ancient lintel]

Uuuuuuuuuh CS maybe? Idk

[fickle solar]

Uhh is phantom good

[abstract mauve]

i dont think that was showcased. i would imagine no since usually when operators move to another tile, they leave behind an anchor

[nocturne laurel]

phantom is better with SA2 s2 though

[raven ermine]

Ngl maybe time will prove me wrong but the 7th anni banner looks mid af to me

[slender temple]

Me who use both Exu2 and Hoshi2 and never bother using her S3 slop combo for unnecessary amount of dmg

[fickle solar]

I got him yesterday from recruiting

[shadow bay]

does phantom shadow trigger sashter s2?

[ancient lintel]

Phantom1 is good in IS, that's it
Phantom2 however is amazing

[spare jetty]

phantom2 is trag

[raven ermine]

Like, outside of kalter s3, and maaaybe closure s1 depending on cycle, what tf did we get out of it

[pale glen]

My little pony collab announcement is peak though

[fickle solar]

Uhh okay and is archetto good too?

[abstract mauve]

closure s2*

[ancient lintel]

I sincerely hope what u said will be wrong

[ebon wedge]

Question y'all, who should be my next investments? I kept on e290ing the ops I build so I keep losing lmd (thank you for telling me it's e260)

[broken flame]

my free Mizuki

[vale finch]

Hmm are the final stages yet to be unlocked usually easier or tougher than the second cm batches

[nocturne laurel]

pram2 or phantom2

[reef sparrow]

mostly because they're not doing stupid damage and just niche utility

[ancient lintel]

Pramanix the pretria, tragodia, lemuen, haruka, yu, etc

[abstract mauve]

kal2 is gonna be generally good. calling her niche seems to defeat the purpose

[slender temple]

Quite agree, if the number is out and both don't have good enough dmg what would a fresh beginner benefits here

[wide gull]

when do red cert shop royal tokens refresh?

[broken flame]

idk i think i'll be using Kal2 S2 a lot

[slim tusk]

closure is vg?

[grizzled galleon]

ima use her s3 😄

[ancient lintel]

Good in IS

[rocky pilot]

Yes

[reef sparrow]

we can see in her skill cycle then

[broken flame]

Tactician

[pale glen]

I mean, have people already tested Kal2 in gameplay? Maybe she has more inside her kit

[slim tusk]

then don't expect dmg from it

[odd sky]

kal2 is out yet gosh

[raven ermine]

I did mean s1
But i mean, s2 is just another dp gen skill idk, there's nothing special about it, unless i missed something
Maybe block count will end up mattering idk

[ancient lintel]

Unfortunately ye
She might get cooked by ines or sash but I reaaaaaaally hope that's not the case

[oak skiff]

x6 auto still gives x6 trust right?

[broken flame]

her s3 dmg type is also physical iirc so yeah

[shadow bay]

cn just announced replacing current tokens with sniper and defender in their anniversary

so we shouldn't get it more or less 6 months from now

[raven ermine]

No, specifically because there's not much niche utility imo

[vale finch]

Meaning we should buy the current ones now before they get replaced?

[shadow bay]

if u want to yeh sure

[broken flame]

yes, it's based on sanity spent

[waxen pine]

which silverash alter skill should I Specialize?

[nocturne laurel]

s2

[broken flame]

S3 in general over S2. S2 if you're doing schwing strats

[grizzled galleon]

s2 if you want 18% more dmg or s1 or s3 for dp

[shadow bay]

would do s3 first since s2 have little benefits from mastery

[vale finch]

Has this always been a thing or it's only just happening for the first time

[rocky pilot]

From showcases i feel she has potential but compared to ines and sash2 I am really not sure

[abstract mauve]

s2 is the dp refund one. s1 just gives shield. s2 is the only skill i've heard people talk about

[pale glen]

Why do some people say Sash2 S2 is better than S3, been seeing some say that

[shadow bay]

we have this occurrence last time

what will be in future should be the 2nd time they'll do it

[broken flame]

S3 is his most general skill though

[urban sleet]

Which skill is the lethargy one, s3?

[rocky pilot]

Might be 3rd but still good prob

[raven ermine]

I'm not talking from a beginner point of view
Both units will likely end up pretty good for beginners, nothing to argue there
I meant from a stacked roster perspective, they don't bring much

[nocturne laurel]

more dp

[wicked charm]

Is it possible to clear out the store

[grizzled galleon]

funny shwing shwing

[oak skiff]

how many blue certs to buy out blue cert hh?

[shadow bay]

its funny for the reels

i mean who dont want to see shwings shwings all over the place?

[broken flame]

It's just that people are allured by schwing strats so everyone is flocking to S2. Even though most actually don't get how to utilize it

[urban sleet]

Said people have seen memeslop on yt s2 is more applicable in IS

[abstract mauve]

as of right now all i know about s3 is that it deals some shit damage and generates some dp. all her skills generate dp so as of right now with no sp costs/duration/dp gen numbers are known, the only remarkable skill is s2 since it has a ~40% dp refund when placing units in range of the summon

[slender temple]

Would still be good but nothing close compare to what the past limited up from Exu2 can do for a beginner still

[raven ermine]

Yeah i know, i just value the shield, especially depending on skill cycle and uptime, ts is good for stalls
Dp refund is just, whatever imho
The negative dp can be useful in tight stages/dp risks, but to get the refund you need the dp in the first place

[pale ferry]

hey guys for final promotions would the ave mujica SSRs be better to prio or URs like mountain, thorns, vigil, surtr, silverash not alter, hoeder, exusai or astgenne better priority?

[wicked charm]

...

[raven ermine]

That's the thing, exu2 has a slot for veterans players, and she's not budging anytime soon

[abstract mauve]

ye but the thing about dp refund is that you can have like 1.5 dp/s effective dp generation during her skill

[urban sleet]

Event store? Yes

[vale dock]

Which store exactly

[wicked charm]

Oh okay thanks

[wicked charm]

Should have specified my bad i meant the event store

[slim tusk]

i was expecting special closure,vg feels kinda random

[abstract mauve]

like you place 1 wisadel down and that's an instant like 11 dp. if you place more units it's more. that's the main reason i think s2 could be nice. still waiting on numbers tho

[raven ermine]

Maybe i'm downscaling her a bit too much, i'll wait and see how it pans out

[tawdry aurora]

What op should a new player e2 using the fast e2 voucher for 5 stars?

[lofty vale]

Unit is power creep: doom post
Unit is not power creep: doom post

Personally I’m hoping Kal ends up being good but in a utility kind of way that won’t simply get power crept by bigger numbers

[urban sleet]

I am more interested in the lethargy effect in closure's kit

[broken flame]

wait nvm you were talking about Closure i was talking about Sash2 the reply wasn't supposed to be to yours

[rocky pilot]

What you want her to be a mercenary and this time makes you drain your dp instead of gaining them

[abstract mauve]

oh 😭

[urban sleet]

Masses making ewely impressioms from partial knowledge and doomposting is pretty common in this era

[nocturne laurel]

depends on your units, ptlopsis is a good option for her talent or tequila for dps

[urban sleet]

Pins has everything for newbies

[tawdry aurora]

How about lapipi and specter?

[fickle solar]

are any of these good?

[raven ermine]

?
More like, they reveal new units, we look at what we can get from them, and where we use them
Sounds to me like it's par for the course if you don't get much to be disappointed
Outside of kalter s3, which is likely going to end up being pretty niche (good but niche), it feels like mumu banner all over again

[urban sleet]

Ptilopsis sp talent is irrelevant, and so is lappland's silence
Its either teq or specter

[shadow bay]

ahh yeh the ptilo for talent usage

[near steppe]

Aight bet

[tawdry aurora]

Oke thanks

[pale ferry]

I want to inquire about this

[lofty vale]

Pretty sure you can get by with E1 Ptilopsis

[slender temple]

Lappy is whatever, specter would benefits alot from her E2 cuz auto regen so yeah

[wanton meadow]

Ideally tequila but some players find him confusing to use

[vale finch]

So closure and kal2 not gonna power creep the game like what the last two celebration banners (wish/logos/exu2) did?

[fringe plinth]

Which Swire alt skill should I m3? Skill 2 or skill 3?

[urban sleet]

Archetto for IS but I doubt you would be asking if you new her comp

Myrtle if you dont hqve elysium/silverash alter/matsukiri/saileach/cantabile/surfer/ines

[pale glen]

It's more like players are being spoiled by extreme stats units that an actual unit with gimmicks are going to get downplayed

[raven ermine]

We still have no clue about actual numbers, but they don't feel that impactful to me
They can still crank that shit up to the max

[shadow bay]

theres a movement for specter e2 first with vouchers

which is not bad considering if u will use her u want her e2

coz tequila still function at e1, and doesn't move that much upon e2ing him

[lofty vale]

Hopefully not
They’re not looking like dpses anyways

[fickle solar]

I dont think i wanted to ask about mrytle i was asking about the 5 and 6 stars

[broken flame]

depends on what you will be using as S2 and S3 are very different i M3'd S2 because I wanna play the bottles but you could do S3 if you wanna do Shift shenanigans

[slender temple]

Not really, Trag existed

[fringe plinth]

Guys, should I focus on skill 2 or skill 3 for Swire alter? I intend to use her for is

[urban sleet]

Didnt mention in question

[fickle solar]

now i mentioned it

[wanton meadow]

Might as well cos tequila transitions really well to base with e2 and while he works with e1, that extra bit of investment with mod1 and m3 really helps his usability too

[fringe plinth]

So you're telling me I should m6 her? Thanks, I've been looking for an excuse to do so

[nocturne laurel]

her e2 doubles from 0.15sp to 0.3sp per second, if they already have dps 6* and no aoe healer, its pretty good imo
wisadel goes from a 50sp skill to a 35sp skill basically

[raven ermine]

That's precisely the opposite that i'm arguing
The utility is meh, i never said anything about damage
Getting good and actually niche utility is exciting
Getting a better exu2 s3 is not

[frail pivot]

should i give up on silverAsh i couldn’t get him 🫩

[toxic nebula]

Worth taking SA2 to E290?

[vale dock]

I'm assuming you're asking about sakiko, yes she's a better prio, if it's not saki, no

[ionic bramble]

can u use skins that u dont own the operator of on ur homescreen

[wanton meadow]

Basically no unit (minus some edgecase VERY SPECIFIC uses) are every worth e2lv90

[nocturne laurel]

no

[shadow bay]

u still need shamare for tequila to work on base... and it depends on how long u will get shamare, and actually e2 her for base... coz for combat reason she is at the bottom of the priority....

i mean im not against e2ing him... given tequila is a dps in nature u can e2 him for all i care

[lofty vale]

E2 investment is so much more than E1
It’s alright to E2 Ptilopsis but as a new player I wouldn’t recommend it

[prisma thicket]

Are they good? I wanted pramanix

[shadow bay]

also u rly never priority base premium teams (outside proviso, she is special horse) until ur confident with ur roster to breeze content

and checked out ur list on who to e2, wether for roster improvement with dpses or expanding utility/niche ops

[wanton meadow]

Usable units

[fresh anvil]

is it possible to clear the second part of the event shop before the event ends? i have the leftmost side all bought.

[broken flame]

well if you're gonna use her a lot sure... nice to see fellow Swire2 user ig

[grizzled galleon]

i mean degen works with sa2 as a kyerag op

[raven ermine]

Lee is bad, degen is decent

[fringe plinth]

Her is mod got me so hooked bro, shit's incredible

[fringe plinth]

It's jarring seeing Degenbrecher going from a must pull when she came out to "she's good-ish I guess"

[shadow bay]

i trust another LE boss will come where lee would fit perfectly to combat boss

[grizzled galleon]

who actually plays arknights on pc

[fresh anvil]

well its 2026

[urban sleet]

Many play on pc

[lofty vale]

Degenbrecher is above average for the level of trash you see in spooks sometimes
She also benefits alot from attack buffs, more than normal units, being a sword master
Overall I think since you got them both in a multi I’d still count it as a W

[proven kelp]

Degen was never a must pull tho

Even back then she was one of the weaker ops in the Marathon of good banners lol

[raven ermine]

She wasn't a must pull
But that's what she deserves for powercreeping my irene anyway 🥱

[fresh anvil]

emulator, you can do more stuff on pc compared to phone

[fickle solar]

being a new player in arknights is really hard becausewhat do you mean i need some characters who are super duper niche and can be only obtained via a limited banner that was from 5 months ago and u cant even get it anymore

[fresh anvil]

like pausing and deploying operators

[broken flame]

I love Irene new mod S2 spam icl

[pale ferry]

I got told none of the URs here are worth building, can I send my SSRs?

[fringe plinth]

Just wait until they release someone with a sp on deployment buff potent enough for you to pull of the Icebreaker Roaming strat in normal gameplay

[wanton meadow]

You never need a character tho, you're not trying to 1op clear max risk cc69420

[nocturne laurel]

pram2 is worth it

[fresh anvil]

you are not clearing obliteration cc im sorry man

[split sphinx]

Shitposting in #arknights ty

[fickle solar]

iwas born 1 day ago

[raven ermine]

Why exactly do you need those niche operators ?
Because those are exclusively used for high end content, that's not something you're touching anytime soon

[proven kelp]

You don't NEED anyone
Even the busted Limited operators aren't NEEDED
They are nice to have but not to the point where you call them needed

You can still clear majority of the game without them

[fickle solar]

Oh wait i sent it in the wrong channel wow

[pale ferry]

oh okay i promote her first then

[lofty vale]

There’s never a “need”
The Arknights experience is clearing stuff using your own roster

[fickle solar]

what if i actually need every alt for silence because shes my favourite character

[nocturne laurel]

and even then they URs like hoederer or surtr arent bad, because if they are your only options they still are good to clear most content

[fresh anvil]

?

[urban sleet]

Yes

[split sphinx]

My yap radar might be elite. The only one who didn't respond with a love letter

[proven kelp]

Meh
I'd rather raise the 5* Ave band than Hoe lol
Unless you're doing IS shit

[raven ermine]

The IS mod you mean ? Haven't looked into it yet, but i've been told it was supposed to be an s3 bomb, why s2 ?

[pale ferry]

i see thanks who do I promote after pram?

[shadow bay]

if u have been playing actively these past days, u should manage to clear shop

but if u are unable to, u can left out furniture parts and module materials

[nocturne laurel]

although yeah true too

[nocturne laurel]

upgrade the other ave mujica 5* so sakiko gets more buffed

[lofty vale]

I recently tried to play Irene in IS with a free ticket and she felt so bad
I didn’t realise the module didn’t come out yet

[pale ferry]

which one is priority?

[fresh anvil]

thanks! do i use the emergency sanity thingies as well during this event?

[lofty vale]

Legit I ended up fielding a lancet over her even after I E2ed her

[broken flame]

No, i was talking about ModX

[deft needle]

is it worth going another 150 summons for lappaland or virtuosa from the shop??

[fresh anvil]

No

[broken flame]

i forgot she even got an IS mod

[deft needle]

heck

[lofty vale]

150 is alot of rolls

[fresh anvil]

apparently kal2 has a bug during the showcasing

[undone tree]

is it okay to keep pulling the banner if i already have the featured? returning player, i wanted to get wis'adel :<

[split sphinx]

Even 50 pulls I wouldnt 💔

[broken flame]

better to save for Wang

[undone tree]

when's her next banner?

[raven ermine]

How many pulls did you spend on the banner already ?

[nocturne laurel]

you already e2 mutsumi so uika

[broken flame]

in 3 months

[undone tree]

81

[pale ferry]

thanks

[rocky pilot]

In no cases is worth sparking unless you already spend a lot got close to sparking to begin with

[broken flame]

or do you mean when Wisadel again

[raven ermine]

Then just dip, you won the banner
The only realistic outcome where you pull more for wisadel is if you're at 250 or so

[undone tree]

yes, but i was told she'd never rerun

[fresh anvil]

wang is a male limited sui sibling trapmaster that deals arts damage and beats wisadel

in ~3 months he arrives

[rocky pilot]

Ahem

[urban sleet]

Sparking is never optimal even for wisadel if f2p since it's a lot of pulls invested to get ine good op whereas it could have been used to get multiple good ops, not to mention you are more likely to get dupes of rate-ups and dupes are meaningless in this game for the most part

[undone tree]

also my friend said wang is brain dead? idk what that means

[tiny abyss]

Higuys 6 months of income should reach 400 pulls right I forgor

[fresh anvil]

you just drag his mines

[odd sky]

wisadel fell off 😭

[shadow bay]

it's not okay, atleast with concern on spending pulls optimally

unless ur rich in pulls and badly need wisadel for whatever reason

[urban sleet]

300*

[fresh anvil]

constantly

[tiny abyss]

Erm

[ancient current]

600 did seem excessive

[broken flame]

She won't rerun but she'll be sparkable in similar limited banners like the current one. But don't spark her tbh just get Wang in 3 months who is better .

[raven ermine]

Around this mark yeah
Even a bit more depending on your account status
300 is thrown around as a conservative estimate

[urban sleet]

We get 5 pulls per week from dailies (100 orundum per day), weeklies (500 orundum per week), and annihilation (1800 orundum per week). We also get one pull from monthly login calendar and three pulls from monthly green cert shop. This totals to 24 pulls per month, or 144 pulls in 6 months
When limited events have an orundum lotto, data has shown an average of 14 pulls over the full event. Limited events are every three months, so that's around 28 pulls from two of those
Event shops each have 3 pulls in them. In the next 6 months, for example, we have eight difference events that'll have 3 pulls each, so that's 24 pulls
The limited banner itself has 24 free pulls
We get 35 gold certs per month on average from recruitment + the login calendar. Over 6 months, this is 210 certs. The other pulls you're doing on the banner easily get you to 258 certs for a 38 pull buyout
Originite from events. In the next 6 months, we get around 180 originite from first clearing event stages. This is about 54 pulls.
If you total up these pull sources, it's over 300 pulls in 6 months

[lofty vale]

I disagree
The ability to throw her in the middle of the map and survive with camo is ridiculous

[rocky pilot]

All operators (except collabs which has a ridiculously low chance of rerun) will always be obtainable
For wisadel case is two times every year

[odd sky]

i was joking brother

[reef tree]

I know this might de dumb to ask, but does the enemies with the “Critically wounded” effect bestowed by Saga still deplete your life point is they enter the blue box ?

[undone tree]

i have lemuen and i thought it would pair well

[raven ermine]

Wisadel didn't fell off then ?
Don't misinfo me

[tiny abyss]

Do u have ts pinned in clipboard

[lofty vale]

Pure damage wise Wang is definitely next level though

[rocky pilot]

Ima screenshot this for my knowledge

[raven ermine]

Good thing you have 12 slots in that team then

[urban sleet]

I have forgotten the number of times I had needed neb math for pulls but didnt hqve the ss, finally managed to get the text to paste for future needs

[split sphinx]

Always =/= two times every year

[broken flame]

on hand

[undone tree]

is wang really that goated or is he just being glazed, im at lvl 40 and yet a lot to learn

[nocturne laurel]

hes like playing a different game

[urban sleet]

Hg releases a broken dmg unit every year, for 2026 its wang

[cursive maple]

he is indeed very braindead

[broken flame]

his gameplay is deploy him -> deploy his stones on top of enemies and watch them die -> repeat until you win

[split sphinx]

Oft compared to wisadel cause big aoe damage in big range who also gets permaglazed

[raven ermine]

Both

[fresh anvil]

hes braindamaged disguised as emo and homeless

[cursive maple]

braindead because jie is dead

[rocky pilot]

Do you want very good global arts damage that has res ignore and also with braindead place bombs and kill

[wintry steppe]

Brain dead while it cost you an E2 to actually make him usable

[lofty vale]

He’s pretty much akin to downloading game shark and solving the entire game for you
I wouldn’t even call it glaze, I’m doom posting

[toxic nebula]

Why does Ch'en2 have 32 ammo and use 2 ammo each shot? Why not 16 ammo and 1 ammo each shot

[vale finch]

Seems like it's quite micro intensive to use... wis is still better for the lazy player yes?

[wintry steppe]

(Idk what are wang stats)

[nocturne laurel]

to make more use of her talent that has a chance of restoring ammo

[undone tree]

but his range isn't global though...?

[lofty vale]

……

[fresh anvil]

his range is pretty much global with his mines

[undone tree]

oh hell no

[urban sleet]

"Micro-intensive" when all you need to do is place a bunch of traps

[lofty vale]

His range is global bro

[broken flame]

He is every afk player nightmare yes but still braindead cause you just really need to place the stones where you want things to die.

[lofty vale]

But yea you basically use him and basically spam mines on every single enemy and stage cleared

[urban sleet]

I knew it, wis would still be thr comfy pick over wang since ppl too lazy to place traps

[raven ermine]

Nuh uh, no delta mod (yet) and banned tiles exist

[fallow salmon]

for how many hours will the banner last? im bad with time zones and whatever..

[nocturne laurel]

its like a phantom cat every 5s

[gloomy fossil]

Is it worth producing the orignium shards in factory?
Are they even worth it?

[vale finch]

Ohh I thought he's supposed to be like for people who like tactics since he's based on Go which is one of the most challenging game to master

[raven ermine]

If you have to ask, the answer is a big no

[fresh anvil]

if you aint stacked dont go for it

[lofty vale]

Turns out the best tactic is spamming the enemy with nukes every 3 seconds

[median fable]

we already got this people, I knew 🥹

[rocky pilot]

insert low quality fish spinning music here

[broken flame]

For a character who is indeed very closely tied to tactics, his gameplay is the very opposite. He is a very reactive trapmaster you don't need to plan shit at all.

[undone tree]

can he hit drones

[gloomy fossil]

Thanks guys
Lets hope i can get lappalter in the next 30 pulls aye?

[unreal garden]

Well you have to plan your pulls to get him ig

[formal shadow]

it's because he does all the thinking for you

[lofty vale]

But yea Wang is a pretty horribly designed kit straight up made to sell power creep

[rocky pilot]

Is bombs of course they do

[gloomy fossil]

How long are the skins in store for?

[fresh anvil]

he hits both drones and ground units

[undone tree]

wtf can he not do atp

[median fable]

#help message pumping this idea up, thoughts?

[stoic gulch]

Is it just me or my game crashed whenever I try to play in saltfin graveyard?

[formal shadow]

they show the duration they remain

[fresh anvil]

survive vs thorns armor

[cursive maple]

you can check on each skin

[raven ermine]

[grizzled galleon]

cant even handle arknights normally on pc ;-;

[undone tree]

ig true

[rocky pilot]

If he runs out of bombs he do nothing ig
But like just skill, refresh and gets a new supply of bombs

[nocturne laurel]

he dies when you place him badly

[lofty vale]

In theory if the entire map is full of enemies that instantly kill him(even the corners) you can’t put in down
Is that a weakness

[split sphinx]

Dont really care about unit powercreep as long as old units can clear gen content

[vale finch]

How is wang received by CN though, I was hoping for someone who requires thinking and preplanning to use effectively...

[broken flame]

He is also very efficient because his traps won't explode if they can't deal dmg to an enemy

[raven ermine]

Use dorothy instead then
Wang broke a ton of records wide open

[rare lagoon]

Should i m3 jaye's s2 with this

[wanton meadow]

Ethan 1st

[coarse tide]

Hi gays

[craggy frigate]

Is lappy and tequila still the best 5 stars

[formal shadow]

g look again

[split sphinx]

Proviso

[median fable]

lappland far from the best

[urban sleet]

Lappy never

[cursive maple]

damage wise id say grace and tequila

[candid badger]

wet chen ? she hit 2x

[urban sleet]

MH collab indefinitely delayed cuz political issues, we have my little pony collab instead

[wanton meadow]

Ah ok s2m3 already, then yea sure why not (prefer to use it on smth like indigo tho)

[median fable]

Canta and Surfer also exists

[candid badger]

wait wrong person

[lofty vale]

Best 5 star is Proviso
Can’t beat the power of printing money

[coarse tide]

My little pony news?

[undone tree]

the powercreeping bastard aside, how do you guys earn lots of money in lower levels?

[rare lagoon]

My indigo isn't e2'd

[rocky pilot]

Base

[urban sleet]

By building base

[undone tree]

what

[raven ermine]

Focus on base, check #bot-spam /base and /baseskills
Farm IS/RA shop using glowstick method

[rocky pilot]

Literally just get a good base
I can print out 60k lmd with no problems

[cursive maple]

woah

[undone tree]

at what interval?

[nocturne laurel]

per day

[raven ermine]

60k won't happen without proviso/shamteq
But a good newbie base is 50k lmd 30k exp approx

[undone tree]

that... that doesn't solve my money problem... i have tons of characters to build and I can't even get them on e2 😭😭

[grizzled galleon]

swipe

[broken flame]

farm IS/RA if low on mats. If you have the irl sanity to go through em you will receive a lot

[rocky pilot]

Lmd literally = money

[wanton meadow]

Something something i love 4star crowd control options

[nocturne laurel]

sanity to go through IS and RA

[broken flame]

irl ofc

[rocky pilot]

Or are you out of exp?

[nocturne laurel]

use irl sanity to farm ce 6

[median fable]

can happen if he uses all the other combos, but if they have access to them high chance he has access to shamteq and proviso

[broken flame]

[raven ermine]

That does solve your money problems, you just have to be patient
If you never invest into it, you'll stay poor
If you want instant gratification, you play RA/IS for free resources, or you swipe

[split sphinx]

base is literaly how you build stable economy in this game. Do you need max squad in 1 day

[nocturne laurel]

and event shop always gives lotta lmd

[coarse tide]

Who to pick i have 1 pull to spent

[lofty vale]

Go play Integrated strategies for the rewards, all of 2-6
They give alot of LMD and dont cost any sanity

Mind this will take alot of time, dont rush

I recommend starting with 6 for the free Raidan

[rocky pilot]

Watch as another player avoids the clash of clans gameplay and questions why they're not making money

[raven ermine]

I mean, yeah
I'm not implying it's straight up impossible, i'm implying they're new and likely only have access to the usual e1 baseslaves

[nocturne laurel]

archetto but 1 pull 😭

[undone tree]

the one with the grotesque something?

[fresh anvil]

you are not getting a six star with that pull 🗿

[coarse tide]

Surely i get licky enohh

[undone tree]

i see, thank you everyone for the advices

[median fable]

just nitpicking as usual

[lofty vale]

Don’t burn yourself out btw
This will take alot of irl time
Try to enjoy it instead of purely grinding or you will hate yourself

[broken flame]

excited for IS7 that theme is my vibe fr

[ornate dust]

borrowing Tragodia should get you some easy ending 1 clears after you understand the mechanics

[nocturne laurel]

need the hoyo dopamin

[undone tree]

don't worry, i have 7 other gacha games to worry about

[nocturne laurel]

the trailer was so cool oh my days

[fresh anvil]

we get to choose our own routes than having to go left to right

[vale finch]

Do veteran players still face lmd shortage? I find that my bottleneck is usually other mats despite only being a one year player

[nocturne laurel]

darkmode IS to not get flash banged at night hopefully

[odd sky]

lmd shortage as veteran is skill issue

[opaque cape]

What are some must build lower rarity ops?

[undone tree]

i already have pramanix/silverash variant and lemuen, i think that's enough op characters for me, plus i kinda hate borrowing characters... makes me feel weak

[fresh anvil]

Ethan

[odd sky]

baseslaves

[rocky pilot]

Erhan indeed

[opaque cape]

Other than the lizard guy?

[grizzled galleon]

myrtle

[fresh anvil]

purestream for gold?

[opaque cape]

I have the reignfrost already

[wraith shoal]

I dont think those 3 are good matchups for yi

[nocturne laurel]

any low rarity unit good for IS

[opaque cape]

But what are the best ones?

[grizzled galleon]

if you doing annihilation 2 vanguards will help laot

[fresh anvil]

ethan raidian start is6

[wraith shoal]

for anni sash2 should be on s1 or s3

[fresh anvil]

and mrytle

[wanton meadow]

Or you're trying to e2lv90 every unit in the game or smth

[nocturne laurel]

should build 1 4 star for every class, like cuora or click

[undone tree]

my healer is lumen and the other one that heals elemental condition and the rest are vanguards and defenders, don't have a good caster and specialist yet sadly...

[lofty vale]

Actually wait I forgot the actual best 5 star in the game for beginners: Shamare

Useful forever cus of her skill 2, kick starts your LMD production right away by providing the same boost as 3 units combined

[fresh anvil]

you can borrow

[nocturne laurel]

tinman is good for is5 if you count him as low rarity

[opaque cape]

His S1 for annihilations is more than enough

[wanton meadow]

That's a funny way to say proviso

[woven canyon]

should i build pramanix or should i focus my resources on someone else

[coarse tide]

Pramprampram

[nocturne laurel]

build pramanix

[wraith shoal]

that's why you should borrow tragodia till you e2 your raidian

[wanton meadow]

My guy pls work on those modules

[undone tree]

who's raidian

[opaque cape]

Is tragodia really that good for is6?

[nocturne laurel]

probably doesnt have the stages unlocked

[fresh anvil]

or you could just use the squad that gives raidian for free

[lofty vale]

Proviso isn’t actually useful in battles and it’s really hard to get her
Whenever she comes on rate up anyways

[wraith shoal]

IS6 welfare

[undone tree]

what's... that?

[nocturne laurel]

any IS but especially is6

[fresh anvil]

and borrow tragodia

[sullen loom]

between sash, pram, and wis. Which one is better to have for newbie

[wraith shoal]

free unit from IS6

[opaque cape]

S1 or S2?

[nocturne laurel]

s2

[grizzled galleon]

pram/wis dont aim for wis reroll unless you really dedicated

[broken flame]

welfare = free operator

[nocturne laurel]

wisadel is the most braindead to use

[undone tree]

WHAT'S AN IS6 😭😭😭 GOD THIS GAME, IM NOT SMART ENOUGH

[wraith shoal]

integrated strategies 6

[nocturne laurel]

integrated strategies on the second last tab in the gameplay menu

[broken flame]

Integrated Strategies 6 which is Garden of Grotesqueries

[undone tree]

oh that, yeah someone mentioned it earlier... the one with the grotesque something

[lofty vale]

Suis garden of grotesqueries

[opaque cape]

What’s the easiest IS?

[nocturne laurel]

is5

[fresh anvil]

5

[grizzled galleon]

you should defo play IS7

[broken flame]

play IS3 if you hate the land

[wraith shoal]

yes that. Go play that with a borrowed tragodia till you e2 raidian

[nocturne laurel]

whoever plays is3 has gambling issues

[wraith shoal]

play IS3 if you hate your life

[sullen loom]

yea im actually rerolling rn, only got one 6* from 10+ reroll lol, got sash, its still pretty good right?

[lofty vale]

Play it for the rewards

[wanton meadow]

You don't get to say that, you play gacha games

[woven canyon]

which module is better for logos? i was thinking more delta but might need some insight

[opaque remnant]

Hmm, I’d like to ask, do I have enough time to get to 540 gold certs, I’m planning to cert asc, logos and ulpi

[broken flame]

tbh IS3 is chill with Texalt

[wanton meadow]

Mod delta 3

[nocturne laurel]

Never said i dont count in there

[pine plover]

i finished IS3 reward milestone first, lv 180, instead of other IS

[woven canyon]

aight

[raven ermine]

Should be plenty of time, ulpi is still really far away

[undone tree]

i only unlocked it recently so idk much about it, but will definitely go to it rn, thank u everyoneee

[grizzled galleon]

ye sash is good as he is the limited and has tons of utility but he might not be able to carry dmg

[opaque cape]

When is the next banner getting announced?

[pine plover]

when current one ended

[wraith shoal]

we dont know

[hushed narwhal]

who should I e2/lvl up next? https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/bobuxxxz

[grand path]

lapter still good?

[sullen loom]

got exu from the very first single pull, she can manage right?

[nocturne laurel]

pram2

[grizzled galleon]

pramanix is right there

[pine plover]

well, they did announce next banner for stronghold protocol, and it's giga ass

[wraith shoal]

for gen content

[grizzled galleon]

she might be good early game but falls off later on due to her being a older operator

[nocturne laurel]

the cn banner was stacked just to butcher it

[grand path]

how about texalter?

[wanton meadow]

Good excuse to save

[grizzled galleon]

if you really want send a picture of your current operators for the people here to review

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't e2 pram, she work decently enough at e1
E2 surtr, e1 saria and kal, then consider e2ing pram
Also raise your baseslaves asap

The only thing you'd get out of e2ing pram is access to s3 (you'll use s2 for almost every stage) and module and masteries
Your account is definitely NOT doing module and masteries for now

[wanton meadow]

She gets very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very screwed by defense

[tough ginkgo]

How anti-aliasing works?

[rain forge]

pretend she doesn’t exist

act like your beginner banner got bugged and you didn’t get a 6*

erase her from your mind

[wanton meadow]

Enemy has a bit of defense? Dps disappears

[sullen loom]

just sash and exu, or should i resume this reroll?

[rain forge]

if you’re rerolling go for pram2

[nocturne laurel]

sash

[obtuse obsidian]

Marksman are nice early thats why you raise kroos

Then you throw The entire archtype in The dumbsteer when you start e2ing stuff

[grizzled galleon]

you got like 2 days so you could save this account and make a new one or go all into rerolling

[wicked charm]

How do I do this

[obtuse obsidian]

I recommend you keep rerolling

[broken flame]

it's keepable with Sash2 and you can keep rolling on the banner if you want. you newbie so you can get a lot of pulls even if you spend some here. Alternatively start with Pram2

[fresh anvil]

clear the stages before IS-7

[nocturne laurel]

side story tab in the menu with the main story, its called il siracusa

[rain forge]

read it better

[obtuse obsidian]

Texas alter event
Find it in side stories

[wraith shoal]

it says what you have to do mate

[raven ermine]

No point in not rerolling for pram2 atp, sash won't do much for an early account

[sullen loom]

how do i save it? like delete it and later login it again before 15 days?

[rain forge]

in 6 months we will have to explain people that IS-7 and IS7 are not the same

[wicked charm]

Thanks

[fresh anvil]

real.

[obtuse obsidian]

Dw in 6 months all sakiko owners would have moded her

[raven ermine]

Surely right

[fresh anvil]

so what’s IS-6 and IS6?

[wraith shoal]

technically integrated strategies are ISW

[rain forge]

who knows

[grizzled galleon]

new email if you got one available also if you wanna keep this one farm story for some more pulls and hope while also rerolling a new one

[tough ginkgo]

.

[rain forge]

It just removes rough edges from textures

[hushed narwhal]

thx a lot , having only specter as my sole guard is a bit hard

I'm gonna invest on surtr now

[fresh anvil]

Like IS-W-_ ?

[opaque cape]

Is the new bellone operator good?

[obtuse obsidian]

Dont pull

[wanton meadow]

Do not look at classes as a role indicator pls, surtr is nothing like specter in role

[fresh anvil]

not when compared to stuff like wang/kal2

[broken flame]

he is fine but not a target unless you like yaoi him

[abstract mauve]

he's decent it's just he's not worth pulling when other operators around him are stronger

[obtuse obsidian]

Only people who should pull bellone are pure male knight players.

But i expect those mfs to aim at p6 wang instead anyway

[raven ermine]

Be aware that surtr before e2 isn't really usable, so keep that in mind and commit your resources when you can e2 her

[neat cedar]

How many pulls in 6 months again?

[grizzled galleon]

new player?

[rain forge]

We don’t even have kal2’s numbers yet wdym

[nocturne laurel]

dawg has personal grief with them

[neat cedar]

No

[solar onyx]

what happens in 6 months

[raven ermine]

300 is the conservative estimate
More than that is pretty likely

[wanton meadow]

40% tp

[opaque cape]

Kal2

[nocturne laurel]

the world explodes

[neat cedar]

My buddy wanna spark exia alter

[broken flame]

like 300-400 estimate

[obtuse obsidian]

I call everyone mfs

[nimble kite]

ISW-(TypeCode)

TypeCodes:
NO - Normal Operation (Battle/Emergency)
DU - Duck Encounter (Battle with Bonus Enemy)
SP - Special Encounter (Battle by triggering Encounter)
DF - Dreadful Foe (Boss Battle)

[opaque cape]

How about if you plan to pull for both the upcoming limited banners?

[urban sleet]

We get 5 pulls per week from dailies (100 orundum per day), weeklies (500 orundum per week), and annihilation (1800 orundum per week). We also get one pull from monthly login calendar and three pulls from monthly green cert shop. This totals to 24 pulls per month, or 144 pulls in 6 months
When limited events have an orundum lotto, data has shown an average of 14 pulls over the full event. Limited events are every three months, so that's around 28 pulls from two of those
Event shops each have 3 pulls in them. In the next 6 months, for example, we have eight difference events that'll have 3 pulls each, so that's 24 pulls
The limited banner itself has 24 free pulls
We get 35 gold certs per month on average from recruitment + the login calendar. Over 6 months, this is 210 certs. The other pulls you're doing on the banner easily get you to 258 certs for a 38 pull buyout
Originite from events. In the next 6 months, we get around 180 originite from first clearing event stages. This is about 54 pulls.
If you total up these pull sources, it's over 300 pulls in 6 months

[neat cedar]

Exia is sparkable with ||kal|| alter right?

[nocturne laurel]

yes

[raven ermine]

That wouldn't change how many pulls you get

[ancient current]

yes kaltsit alter should have her

[neat cedar]

Nice thanks yall

[raven ermine]

Bad 40% tp*

[fresh anvil]

do we just wait a few weeks before we have actual real opinions on kal2/closure/other free units

[urban sleet]

You never judge with half knowledge

[obtuse obsidian]

That or you nerd The vids like people did with pozyomka

[fresh anvil]

ok cool just no talk about 7th anni lets just pretend that doesnt exist for now

[sullen loom]

if i used my email here then got a better one, can i delete the one that already linked to my email and change it to the better one (same email)

[turbid ocean]

So much yap and still wrong on pull count smh

[abstract mauve]

mr light how much pulls

[vocal haven]

Should I roll x10 this banner ?

[urban sleet]

Wtf neb fell off 🚮

[opaque cape]

I feel it’s very difficult to mess up smthn like a flying medic with true damage

[turbid ocean]

80+ monthly on average for active players

[abstract mauve]

is this including the free pulls from limited banners?

[fresh anvil]

yes but we dont have numbers on her

also there was a bug apparently on her s2 during showcase

[turbid ocean]

Yes

[raven ermine]

Sounds a bit more accurate than 300 in 6 months from experience
How many pulls certs are you assuming in this ?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[pine plover]

single pull until you get first 6star

[grizzled galleon]

nvm didnt see you havent gotten 6 star yet

[opaque cape]

May I ask where you got those numbers, is there any doc or a site that tells those numbers

[obtuse obsidian]

I assume this include op?

[turbid ocean]

I did mediocre pot numbers for average gold cert

[mental gull]

best mod for kal tsit generally?

[nimble kite]

IS

[turbid ocean]

Yes everything in effort to min max pull count

[obtuse obsidian]

I see thanks

[mental gull]

ISW a?

[turbid ocean]

I did the numbers
There is no website

[coarse tide]

How good is cum?

[nimble kite]

Yes, that one, special badge

[opaque cape]

I mean we saw that her heals are absolutely gigantic, even if her damage is lacking, her redeploy instantly grants her a niche

[broken flame]

[fresh anvil]

Hm?

[coarse tide]

The flying medic dude

[mental gull]

it only requires less materials than the others lol

[pine plover]

lightGPT

[fresh anvil]

just say his fullname next time

[outer fossil]

is my friend dumb for wanting to spark virtousa/muelsyse over wisadel

[abstract mauve]

yes

[coarse tide]

Taraxcum how good

[vale finch]

So kal2 is focused on healing unlike her original?

[obtuse obsidian]

He is just simping

[nimble kite]

Ofc, because that module will work only on IS.

[pine plover]

he flies

[coarse tide]

Crazy

[grizzled galleon]

i mean yea

[abstract mauve]

s2 can deal true damage but kal2 is mainly healing yeah

[opaque cape]

We don’t know, but she looks more Healy less damagy

[mental gull]

it still helps in story and other content yes?

[neat cedar]

Was there any monthly giveaway or 6* selector with wang?

[nimble kite]

Ummm, for that matter you will use Panacea (Y one), Lv3.

[fresh anvil]

…no?

[obtuse obsidian]

S2 do damage

S3 is ulpain s3 but instead of doing damage her self she carry other ops to do that

[pine plover]

neither

[raven ermine]

Yes, also your friend need mod2 lemuen pram2, mody3 mosti, mod3 exu2, mod1 lappalt, mod2+ hoshi2, mod2 surtr, e2 sakiko mod2+ and e2 degen mod1
Likely masteries too

[wraith shoal]

wang is limited, he wont be in any selector

[mental gull]

panacaea for story content and other content outside IS huh

[obtuse obsidian]

We dont know numbers so we dont know if this kal will be The next true dps or not

That being said s3 is pure utility skill

[grand raven]

what skill to m3 for virtousa?

[fresh anvil]

s3s are very useful

[wraith shoal]

complaining about mediocre damage on kal2 skills while she's a damn medic is wild

[fresh anvil]

do you have any other six star you can use it on

[pine plover]

he asked if there was free selector during wang event

[flint onyx]

So, am I getting right that silverash alter s3m3 just works as 1.3 damage multiplayer on enemies. So like let's say instead of getting 500 abstract damage the enemy will get 650 abstract damage? Because I don't see the damage type specification before the fragile effect in skill description in comparison with reed alter talent where it is only arts one

[flint widget]

what skill for sexual assault? s3?

[nimble kite]

Yes. Usually you will use Kal only on IS, because everyone else is doing her work better that her.
But if you wanna push Kal into normal content, Panacea then.

[grand raven]

i was just going to raise her since shes a limited i got

[grizzled galleon]

people are getting a bit too freaky

[coarse tide]

With the addition of kalalt can we now play the kaltsitknights?

[obtuse obsidian]

Am too old for this shit

[fresh anvil]

WHAT?

[nimble kite]

S2 first, S3 when wanted.
If you about SilverAlter.

[grizzled galleon]

unc

[pine plover]

SA, silver ash, you get it

[raven ermine]

30% fragile is indeed a 1.3x multiplier to all types of damage outside of elem damage

[robust thistle]

its just normal fragile

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro did not use granpa
Maybe am not too old

[fresh anvil]

world war 1 veteran

[jaunty heron]

What is the average base income in a day

[coarse tide]

60k

[raven ermine]

50k lmd 30k exp for a baseline

[pine plover]

40k-60k and 30k EXP

[fresh anvil]

50k at least, no?

[obtuse obsidian]

Ldm

[coarse tide]

How to reach 30k exp‼️ ‼️

[jaunty heron]

So this is fine right?

[indigo spoke]

is there any new IS module in cn livestream?

[fresh anvil]

yes and definitely will say you can improve that

[obtuse obsidian]

4 ops in assistance

[urban sleet]

Spalter and typhon

[obtuse obsidian]

Specter alt and typhon

[grand raven]

which skill and mod for virtousa?

[indigo spoke]

nice, time to level specter alter

[ancient current]

use the correct name for operators and don't bait

[jaunty heron]

Mostly tp but i don't have any ops outside of proviso to do that

[fresh anvil]

just please uh use them materials on a different six star, please

[obtuse obsidian]

S1 m3 for button allergy

S3 for ahh idk tbh its The non afk skill

[fresh anvil]

you have tequila?

[jaunty heron]

I do

[indigo spoke]

0/10 either joke or ragebait

[grand raven]

i've raised all my other ones and wanted to use her

[urban sleet]

We still dont know what the mod does btw, need to wait for in-game release

[jaunty heron]

Who do I pair with him tho?

[mighty meteor]

Is mod X3 will include Saria herself?

[pine plover]

we are also getting new is, The Black Flow of the Drowning Seeker, officially called IS6, but people will call it IS7 anyway, welfare is Machinist (Defender), themed Bolivar Black Forest and S.T.AL.K.E.R.

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbf if you dont raise every is op to play around with their is mods are you even an is fan

[fresh anvil]

machinist 💔

[flint widget]

bro took 170 pulls from me let me vent

[slim tusk]

saria has sp lock so no

[pine plover]

because he works with machine

[urban sleet]

I dont remembee them to be an IS fan so had to put it out

[fresh anvil]

because giraffe taste better than bread

[ancient current]

vent somewhere else. this is the help channel, not the blogging channel
this is inappropriate anywhere anyways

[indigo spoke]

good to know, i just got suzuran from recruitment, but since she is year 1 (or 2) op should i level her ?
https://www.krooster.com/u/alert-mauve-surtr-78xp

[urban sleet]

When does the banner drop amyways

[obtuse obsidian]

I think to tomimi dev have a filter for it

[round summit]

seek recommendation/advice, should i replace anyone with Pramanix? For general stage and/or IS

[paper needle]

so, its fine to not reroll then? i havent reroll, js about to tho, but ill consider bout it first cz i got thorn and exu aswell (the best luck i ever got) and i also still have the free recruit things

[urban sleet]

Kick saria

[fresh anvil]

shes a choice in the six star voucher on 7th anni, so do what you will with that information

[robust thistle]

mon3tr or ines

[pine plover]

like monday or tuesday if you are refering to the dogwater orienteering

[urban sleet]

7th anni banner

[indigo spoke]

i would get reed2 from that voucher btw, i have her summer skin

[pine plover]

a week after livestream

[obtuse obsidian]

Super low prio

You might use her once in a blue moon but focus on dps mastery/module

[fresh anvil]

skin dont matter much for an operator, but yes she is debatable for one of top 4 picks

i am thinking of going mizuki because his is module is very good

[calm raptor]

What skill does virtuosa use mainly?

[fresh anvil]

1/3

[pine plover]

also Mountain is getting a skin from RA3 shop according to official news

[urban sleet]

^

[shadow bay]

applying necrosis with s3

[obtuse obsidian]

Most users use s1 for button allergy reasons

S3 probably a better skill but she is so powercrept by tragedy

[split sphinx]

does the skin make him deal triple damage? no?

[fresh anvil]

no

[pine plover]

no, this is not browndust 2, where each characters skin are actually alter with separated kits

[indigo spoke]

who is this op

[fresh anvil]

W, ambience synthesia

[urban sleet]

[north root]

[shadow bay]

W

[obtuse obsidian]

How did you get Nian from that is The question

[fresh anvil]

i can see a little nian in there

[split sphinx]

you can see the roach antenna

[safe tundra]

white and red. thoughts?

[heady ruin]

some kid named X

[pine plover]

nian is ambient synthesia 2022 pfp
w is 2023

[reef sparrow]

bro didn't saw the cockroach antennae

[indigo spoke]

i get this pfp from 2022 before i stop play till recently, do anyone remember what kind of gift pack is it?

[fresh anvil]

still currently in the shop as of right now

[pine plover]

it's in the shop right now

[wraith shoal]

ambience synesthesia 2022 iirc

[fresh anvil]

specifically the rightmost one

[indigo spoke]

its 0.99 in 2022 also?

[robust thistle]

its literally just an icon

[broken flame]

what's Gnosis' main skill with IS mod?

[obtuse obsidian]

You can cope for him to get an ra mode so you can have usage for him in The game mode you never play

[pine plover]

at least the USD price isnt affected by inflation

[ashen surge]

So is this thing worth single pulling until 6 stars?
The 6 stars in the pool doesn't seem that strong but i saw it got recommended to aomeone earlier.

[pine plover]

you rather pull on limited banner

[urban sleet]

Are you dome pulling on the limited banner

[indigo spoke]

well in 2022 iirc i was buy it in my local price

[worldly hornet]

So should I gamble on Top op tag alone or should I try for weedy ?

[ashen surge]

Well I got pramalter and salter, idk if that can be count as done or its better for me to risk 6 pulls on that banner than the 380 orundrum one.

[pine plover]

oh right, we are getting lessing record restoration, how wild

[urban sleet]

Can do singles until first 6 star on beginner banner I suppose

[abstract mauve]

my goat

[pine plover]

goatshit

[abstract mauve]

how dare you

[pine plover]

goatshit impact

[urban sleet]

Someone wanted opinion on sankta miksa ewrlier

[fresh anvil]

you have these?

[abstract mauve]

i was @'d earlier about that and i responded ye

[sweet sand]

should i pull now on the banner or wait tomorrow night?

[obtuse obsidian]

Solo CC seems good in general

Can also go CC caster to guaranteed a super niche op

[nocturne laurel]

his skin is cool but gotta pray that they fixed his animations

[worldly hornet]

Yea thanks mate but I know the calcs and I just have Saria

[reef sparrow]

can you hold your urges until tomorrow?

[humble nova]

how to get this pfp

[fresh anvil]

no problemo, just wanted to make sure

[abstract mauve]

oh earlier as in like 17 or so hours ago or was it like today 😅

[pine plover]

it was from chapter 13 release event iirc

[urban sleet]

Uh 6-9 hrs earlier I think

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro still level 93 since chap 13

[abstract mauve]

if you have the message i can respond to it ye

[fresh anvil]

is there any news of us being able to have a six star for the first support slot?

[pine plover]

we are returning to ursus and there is still nothing about hellagur and his adopted daughter

[obtuse obsidian]

Just put myrtle

I remember people said she is 6 star 6 years ago

[fresh anvil]

i put my specter

[frigid zinc]

Guys. Is whishlash good?

[humble nova]

oh was it like limited for when chapter 13 was out or can anyone still obtain it?

[pine plover]

should be limited

[tacit latch]

Should I bargain or listen to cannot?

[true pagoda]

is is6 the only one that resets monthly?

[abstract mauve]

sankta miksaparato uses s3. s2 can be used for niche tanking scenarios but 90% of the time he runs s3. s3 makes him relatively tanky and expands his range. every time he is damaged (other than regen), he shoots out an attack that hits up to 3 enemies in range. he still shoots this attack even when no one is in range. he has 2k dph and with 30 ammo that means 60k total damage. due to how his skill works, he can use up all his ammo in the span of a few seconds or it can be up for several minutes since it's an ammo skill that's reliant on how often he gets attacked

[pine plover]

bargain is robbing him

[glass nexus]

Help

[shadow bay]

bargain if ur confident u can rob cannot

robbing means entering combat with him

[pine plover]

against him

[glass nexus]

Pls help

[tacit latch]

Is the combat hard

[rustic cloud]

Is this considered as a normal daily income?

[shadow bay]

thats why i failed my english 101

[pine plover]

depend on which IS, since each has different combat and mechanic

[neat scarab]

im insanely broke where do I farm these

[tacit latch]

Is6 floor 1

[pine plover]

he will murder your ass

[neat scarab]

need my mon3tr s3m3

[tacit latch]

Good to hear

[random shard]

Lower than expected. Looking for 40-50k lmd

[fresh anvil]

hes gonna kick yo ahhh do it on a later floor

[tacit latch]

Atp do i listen to him

[granite shale]

Hi everyone! Yesterday I found out that they improved the QoL with the farming so I decided to jump back! I just played for like... 2 weeks? With this old account, I arrived 3-8 and wanted to know if I should start with a brand new account and use this one! (Found Silverash with thr free 10-pull)

[split sphinx]

#bot-spam /baseskills
basic baseslaves should be better than this

[obtuse obsidian]

Bargain for 100% discount

[fresh anvil]

like floor 4/5 you can rob him and by then you have good dps

[pine plover]

listen is just cancel the robbery attempt

[rustic cloud]

I see

[nocturne laurel]

yeah you have texalter not worth restarting

[shadow bay]

consult cnfarm in #bot-spam to plan where u can farm in Future events

also check green cert if u can buy some of these

also wait for parametric shop when banner end and tokens got converted

last resort is .. farming story stages

[split sphinx]

just keep is fine

[obtuse obsidian]

Btw if you rob cannot all future shops become empty in same run

So always remember that

[fresh anvil]

thats why we do it later floors where we can reroll a node into shop

[obtuse obsidian]

Ed 4 is6 kinda have no room for robbing sadge

[granite shale]

Thank you everyone! @nocturne laurel @split sphinx

Should I continue pulling on the Silverash banner for the other 6★? (I don't if it's possible to get to the pity for other units)

[urban sleet]

@abstract mauve

[shadow bay]

but i was told is6 ideal rob in 2nd shop node???

[nocturne laurel]

how many pulls do you have left

[fresh anvil]

they dont got a store you can rob for the floor that has the boss?

[abstract mauve]

ye i found it and replied #help message

[obtuse obsidian]

I mean ed4 have a guaranteed shop at The end so unless i get chalice i dont see reason to rob that, early

[worldly carbon]

shileds the goat

[void spire]

This gives me the character, or where do i get the character?

[granite shale]

Like a 10-pull, but i don't really know where to get Originium or Originite

[pine plover]

@abstract mauve which hadiya use to skill?

[obtuse obsidian]

While i cant rob final shop i will have ingots to buy all relics anyway

[fresh anvil]

like 4th event stage

[abstract mauve]

s1 is straight ass so s2 by process of elimination

[pine plover]

[fresh anvil]

claim your rewards

[nocturne laurel]

dont pull then, you get Originium from annihilation mostly and OPrime from 3 staring stages
headhunting certs in event shop and green cert shop

[abstract mauve]

would've been a decent skill if it didnt use dp but it's just alright ig. dph a bit low to genuinely consider her an option imo

[fresh anvil]

to the right of the shop

[granite shale]

Thank you!!

[obtuse obsidian]

Hadiya is best op in her archtype

[abstract mauve]

1.6k dph in 2026 for a 5* is...

[fresh anvil]

hadiya? what she look like?

[nocturne laurel]

like a goatee

[abstract mauve]

one of the best designs in the game

[worldly carbon]

atleast she stuns right and got the range...

[chilly mulch]

Question. So the silverash pramanix banner ends on the 28th right? That means we only have one last free pull tomorrow (27th), since 28th midnight is when the banner ends?

[abstract mauve]

ye the range and stun is cool and all but no damage. also she doesnt hit air with stun when i tested

[nocturne laurel]

correct

[worldly carbon]

do you think hadiya is as bad as people said?

[fresh anvil]

it tells you to clear the 5th event stage, OS-5

[hollow furnace]

Of I frogot this acc exist this is my old acc Should try to pull on this acc or restart?

[abstract mauve]

after using her, you kinda just dont have use for dp after a certain point so the dp usage part is wtvr. it's more that her dph is very low so she's like a worse vanguard that literally uses up your dp instead of making it

[fresh anvil]

yer fine

[nocturne laurel]

keep

[split sphinx]

doesn't hurrt to try

[abstract mauve]

her dp cost is low enough and her stats are decent enough that it's alright to open with her tho

[fresh anvil]

do any operators count as welfare if they’re from red certs shop? or fuh nah

[abstract mauve]

they dont count as welfare

[nocturne laurel]

is astgenne alter like fun using
dont really care about her dmg
ive seen mixed feelings bout her

[fresh anvil]

good to know

[worldly carbon]

good enough
I have the tendency to bring 2-3 vanguards cus I like them so much anyways thanks shileds, kisses mwah

[abstract mauve]

if you wanna test her out hmu. s2 is decent-ish for an afk skill

[obtuse obsidian]

Fun is kinda subjective

Do you like slowing enemies?

[hollow furnace]

i still dont understand how Tequlia work guess have to replace dps

[wraith shoal]

@abstract mauve why exactly do story ops not count as welfares though

[obtuse obsidian]

Actually you can always borrow and see for your self

[abstract mauve]

that's the definition set by arkrec. that's kinda it

[nocturne laurel]

i mean pram2 ascalon is fun to make enemies slow as hell

[nimble kite]

Drop the cat
Wait for cat explosion
Watch everyone die

It's not that hard

[fresh anvil]

some person on cn probably decided that

[obtuse obsidian]

Try her as a borrow

[nocturne laurel]

tequicat

[strange scaffold]

How exactly do I use SA alter, I get his skills mess around with operator dp costs and additionally provide a buff but I'm not actually sure which one is the most generally helpful.

S3 seems cool in theory but myrtle + saileach lets me shit out expensive teams quickly and the long cooldown seems eh.

S1 and S2 seems to be the just defensive vs offensive respectively and seem to be better for generalist use

[obtuse obsidian]

Tequilla not tragedy

[urban sleet]

Tequila not the french giy

[fresh anvil]

NOT TRAGODIA

[nimble kite]

Ah, fuck, partical blind again

[abstract mauve]

the wisbrainrot is all consuming

[hollow furnace]

I see a lot of cat here who ?

[nocturne laurel]

drop tequila infront of boss, give him a healer, wait for skill charged, activate melantha skill

[pseudo flume]

I still think its dumb, to a high degree

[fresh anvil]

its ok i confused kazimierz with kjerag yesterday

[obtuse obsidian]

Tequilla you just click his skill when you need him to kill enemies

You dont use him as main blocker

[ashen surge]

Passive without skill, savage with skill activated.

[hollow furnace]

Oh

[strange scaffold]

They are both europeans so understandable

[pseudo flume]

Surely Dubstep Poland is the same as a Random Theocratic State

[hollow furnace]

Mon3tr will do well with Tequila them

[urban sleet]

Both mlynwr and silverash go schwing, understandable

[strange scaffold]

Is Kjerag theocratic? I was always under the impression that while religion is super important there's still a a degree of separation of the government and religious bodies.

Laterano by contrast is 100% theocratic.

[pseudo flume]

I mean they are literally living and worshiping the body of Kjeragandr

[ivory lichen]

as a new player, should I continue to pull on the current banner? I got the two featured units and wisadel, so I feel like I got as much as I can hope for.

[strange scaffold]

Yeah but the actual government isn't entirely run by their version of a church.

[nocturne laurel]

no

[pseudo flume]

Just save

[candid badger]

stop, and save

[ivory lichen]

yes sirs! thanks 🙂

[fresh anvil]

no you got what you needed, save for wang banner

[strange scaffold]

You already got the banner units and wisadel.

[abstract mauve]

ye it really is. i might just build the new mystic caster on my CN to see how he works. if he's actually good i might uhhh do a little goofing around yk

[nocturne laurel]

both operators and wisadel ist crazy good as new player damn

[ivory lichen]

is that a banner with only males or a specific character?

[hollow furnace]

I got him from pull

[fresh anvil]

specific kinda. sui siblings.

[wraith shoal]

#salt-mines

[nocturne laurel]

theres wang and chen3

[nimble kite]

Good

[hollow furnace]

So he is vanguard

[fresh anvil]

are you asking if hes worthwhile to raise as a unit?

[nimble kite]

(He does.)

[strange scaffold]

I got spooked by non banner limited and it was an unemployed wolf dupe

[pseudo flume]

But the Saint has a massive influence on what will happen as evidenced by Pram calming the masses over SA's political movements
Also better not continue the discussion else its for #ak-lore now

[strange scaffold]

2/3 chance for washboard or wisadel

[ivory lichen]

so my 6* units are Wisadel, SilverAsh Reignfrost, Pramanix Prerita and Stainless. Should I build them all?

[pseudo flume]

A very good vanguard

[fresh anvil]

other than stainless, yes

[strange scaffold]

Silver ash and wisadel for sure

[pseudo flume]

Skip Stainless since he's less necessary

[nocturne laurel]

probably e1 pram2 first then go for e2 wisadel

[strange scaffold]

don't forget the max out myrtle

[ivory lichen]

yeah I got Myrtle too

[pseudo flume]

E1 Lvl1 S1SL7 Myrtle is enough don't max her out

[hollow furnace]

So How should i build with this Can you guys point out good to invest opertaor ( rss to lv up is tight for me 😅😅)

[pseudo flume]

People are still living in the shadow of the Myrtle Cult

[nocturne laurel]

silverash2, yu and mon3tr

[ashen surge]

Its a chinese new year banner, the highlight limited this time is Wang which apparently is very op, afaik limited banners come with 2 rate ups, 1 being limited and another is standard, the standard for Wang banner is Chen the Dawnbreaker, her second alternate id.
It is highly recommended banner to pull on.

[strange scaffold]

She's still super useful for a newer player and like when is he gonna get saileach

[hollow furnace]

I cant upgrade all legnedary so

[ivory lichen]

Alright I'll shelf Stainless and build Myrtle. Any other must-builds? I still have my selectors

[pseudo flume]

E2 SA, build SA2 and Mon3tr

[fresh anvil]

selectors? like the five star and six star?

[hollow furnace]

Okay them rest I will put low lv rarity one

[strange scaffold]

I don't know how elysium compares as a dp printer but I mostly remember him more for supporting and debuffs not dp printing

[ivory lichen]

yes

[nocturne laurel]

youre not lacking dmg so I'd recommend ptlopsis for 5* if you like her

[pseudo flume]

I know but like the basic ass stages can make do with her skill on lvl7, I have no idea why people are making her be a necessity to E2 and be S1M3

[fresh anvil]

aint we talking about base for new player first before ptilosis

[nocturne laurel]

oh right proviso

[ashen scaffold]

should i replace someone with pramanix?

[strange scaffold]

Because she deserves it and e2 makes her just that more durable enough to not explode

[fresh anvil]

shamare, proviso

[candid badger]

typhon

[pseudo flume]

Tifon

[strange scaffold]

In reality hold off on masteries in general until much later, they aren't needed and are super expensive
@ivory lichen

[shadow bay]

either surfer

or for virtue of arts dmg, one from logos or reedic(would be more on case)

[wraith shoal]

surfer. You dont need 2 vgs that do the exact same thing

[pseudo flume]

Just shove her at the very back of the stage, why are people making her block or something

[turbid ocean]

[vale dock]

surfer, ines does everything that surfer does

[strange scaffold]

don't we always have a couple of stages per event where everywhere is the front

[fresh anvil]

maybe the 7th anni banner, he gets a free six star selector that has saileach in it

[turbid ocean]

Second vanguard serves more purpose than Saria in a modern team

[ashen scaffold]

what’s best skill for pramanix

[nocturne laurel]

s2

[wise spear]

Yo. Can anyone help me who should I invest? I'm still at level 38

[pseudo flume]

Heck they can just outmanoeuvre the global attacks with placing Myrtle first then immediately place something else durable as bait

[urban bolt]

Think I'm gonna build kaltsit now, what did she need?

[ivory lichen]

awesome, thanks

[strange scaffold]

Kaltsit is a summoner disguised as a medic

[pseudo flume]

No?

???????

[ivory lichen]

Seriously, this is the most helpful discord I've ever seen lol. Thanks for the answers, everyone! I'll get back to the game now

[nocturne laurel]

s3 is her best skill so e2 but base first

[urban sleet]

Ulpianus hoshi the breacher and silverash

But before that raise base slaves, list in /baseskill in #bot-spam

[strange scaffold]

Does e2 unlock base skills or is it e1

[pseudo flume]

What game you playing that makes the back be the front????

[urban sleet]

E1 for 4 stars

[wise spear]

What base slaves do to the ops progression?

[fresh anvil]

we also recommend you check out #bot-spam and use commands like
/base and /baseskills

[rocky pilot]

E1 for 4* E2 for both 5 and 6*

[urban bolt]

I'm already done with the base characters, im still missing those like proviso which will come with time ig, especially since I'm still day 13 on this acc

[lament loom]

Uh, the base produces stuff that, you know, goes towards levelling ops. LMD and Exp.

[pseudo flume]

@strange scaffold are you talking about stages that put the Bluebox as close as possible in the middle???

[nocturne laurel]

would recommend saving enough lmd and exp for proviso e2 and use the spare on kalsit then i guess

[strange scaffold]

kinda, also stages that spawns enemies all over

[nocturne laurel]

or are there no vouchers anymore

[pseudo flume]

There's workarounds for that

[strange scaffold]

so just about no matter where you place units they start eating shots

[wise spear]

Aight m8

[strange scaffold]

Which is part of the challenge but I digress

[lament loom]

U mean like mortar enemies?

[urban bolt]

No more, seems like thats gone since January. Hence why just gotta wait for gacha luck ig. Did kaltsit need mod btw?

[fresh anvil]

youll get to pick her from five star voucher methinks 7th anni banner

[wise spear]

Any 4* I should invest too?

[fresh anvil]

free stuff!

[strange scaffold]

Any ranged units, and if I remember correctly there was this one evil stage in Eyja Alter event that covered the entire stage in the range of the wizard sheep except the last like, 3 spaces with no dp to start with just as an example

[lament loom]

Again, like @pseudo flume said, there are workarounds, just gotta figure out the strat.

[pseudo flume]

Well yeah, I've built Myrtle to be E2 S1M3 and Elysium to be E2 M6 before getting SA2 or Ines so I've known on how to place them better just a matter of patience and having a different enough perspective on the stage map

[nocturne laurel]

she doesn't need one base e2 is good enough, priorize other modules and specilize wisadel and pram2 skill

[lament loom]

I dont remember having any DP issues with Eyja2 event besides the Dolly rng

[glossy coral]

hi guys, for Pramalter S2, what does 20 tiles max mean? Is it 20 tiles centered away from her or 20 additional tiles max?

[pseudo flume]

Was tempted to E2 Wanqing too but eh can't be bothered

[nocturne laurel]

20 additional max

[strange scaffold]

Dolly as a boss?
I thought she was easy but I used fast deploys to pop the steam bottles super fast

[lament loom]

I had auto deploy issues, thats why.

[steep pivot]

what tag should I choose to get Utage in the recruit ?

[candid badger]

guard, and hope getting her

[strange scaffold]

just guard I think

[alpine lance]

Are there any other ops that can reduce DP cost just by being in the squad? (similar to regular texas).

[pseudo flume]

Oh ya the answer for the previous question here's the order on how good a flagbearer is from left to right without Saileach

Elysium P6 > Wanqing P6 > Elysium P1 > Wanqing P1 > Myrtle P6 > Myrtle P1

[strange scaffold]

Guard + slow is a guaranteed frostleaf, vanguard + heal is guaranteed myrtle, summon so far is instant beanstalk, nuke is instant cutter

Supporter + heal should also be podenco but I haven't had it be consistent

[nocturne laurel]

elysium, muelseye but only for specific operators

[strange scaffold]

saileach but only on first deploy

[fresh anvil]

guard melee survival if that helps

[pseudo flume]

You can check out /rectags in #bot-spam

[clever shell]

Is mountain worth getting in the big year of 2026? I can get him in the shop.

I saw him getting used quite a bit during icebreaker event by others.

[alpine lance]

mumu for rhine, but elysium?

[strange scaffold]

He has awesome skins

[nocturne laurel]

for all snipers -2 dp

[somber gate]

How to finish this thing again?

[clever shell]

I'll save my tickets then

[strange scaffold]

did you check ex tab

[fresh anvil]

those are new stages

[void spire]

Is she good? Looks cool

[vale dock]

it's still locked, wait the 28th

[fresh anvil]

they will be arriving in a few days

[alpine lance]

damn, that's pretty good. thx!

[rain forge]

OS-S-1

[strange scaffold]

I mean if you have resources to spare by all means level her up.

[rain forge]

S stages will release on 28th

[void spire]

Nah im pretty broke

[strange scaffold]

If you are newer then don't

[errant jetty]

chat do i buy reed alter with certs

[rain forge]

astgenne 2 is ass don’t build her

[wise spear]

Who should I pick if I already own these?

[strange scaffold]

save it for rolls

[fresh anvil]

she appears on six star voucher 7th anni, dont

[alpine lance]

silence

[nimble kite]

Isn't level is called like that?

[rocky pilot]

Needs red arrows

[strange scaffold]

liskarm does cool stuff as an sp battery

I don't think any other operator does what she does

[rain forge]

Liskarm is dogshit

Ptilo is the best sp battery rn

[pseudo flume]

Irrelevant in this Era

[rocky pilot]

Just go silence and we're off

[lament loom]

Liskarm in 2026

[pseudo flume]

Silence

[fresh anvil]

does silverash2 not do that lol

[wise spear]

Aigh

[rocky pilot]

I have a maxed liskarm and I honestly do not remember the last time I even used her

[rain forge]

maybe it isn’t updated yet idk

[nimble kite]

Help being sloppy, I see

[fresh anvil]

sloppity slop slop

[pseudo flume]

Haven't updated yet for Global 🤫

[rocky pilot]

The amateur helpers are invading again

[wise spear]

I have hoshi alter... so guess I'll invest into her