help

[robust thistle]

get her mod1 first, she wants it
then you can work on others

[slim dove]

ill take ur word for it

[main meadow]

is there anyone good in IS or in side story good to have beside those in the Guide?

[tropic schooner]

like pram alter, silver alter and the base silverash

[haughty holly]

mod first

[robust thistle]

alternatively you can just not mod him because hes washed

[lofty vale]

Back in the day sweep didn’t exist so the more manual actions your auto had, the more likely your auto would break cus of frame drops etc

[slim dove]

damn

[tropic schooner]

alright ty

[spare jetty]

what guide

[slim dove]

what about lappy? is she good to mod?

[main meadow]

the pinned guide

[pseudo flume]

In #is-station pins there's a guide for IS ig

[robust thistle]

mod1 at best for the trait improvement

[spare jetty]

probably krooster

[main meadow]

alr got her

[spare jetty]

raidian for is6

[verbal minnow]

hows degen s1 and s2? already have s3m3 but thinking of using her more cause of salter passive

[pseudo flume]

Shit don't use it

[robust thistle]

Dont bother

[pseudo flume]

Only use Degen S3

[main meadow]

alr 2

[shadow bay]

uhhh s1 only touched when allegic to buttons
s2 may haveseen usage, but ehh just stick to s3..

s2 usage were mostly for some auto recov gimmicks or she is e1

[pseudo flume]

Only reason you use Degen S2 is when she's E1

[lofty vale]

I haven’t seen people talking much about degen but sash should help her quite abit

[thorny edge]

s2 being used was ancient days

[pseudo flume]

Her time has passed 🤫

[nimble kite]

S2 doesn't gain better SP cost, so ignore.
S1 is also not good, ignore.

[spare jetty]

thats it
if u don't count the ones haven't rerun

[pseudo flume]

You missed Degen's Glory Days during IS4 Release 🚬

[rustic cloud]

Hello I wanna ask smth, is there a chance for the “Top Operator” tag be removed if I add another tag?

[obtuse obsidian]

1 ending glory

even ash had more to her name

[pseudo flume]

Only if you refresh or set it below 9 hours

[ancient sonnet]

If you refresh it's gone

[rustic cloud]

I see, thanks for the information

[obtuse obsidian]

np

[lofty vale]

As long as you set it to 9 hours the top op tag will never fall off

[pseudo flume]

Whatever happened to Degen being the same tier as Mlynar :clueless:

[lofty vale]

It doesn’t matter what else you choose

[main meadow]

how about those in IS? is there any useful, or niche enough op to be used??

[obtuse obsidian]

ascalon event happened and she did not one shot the assassins

[pseudo flume]

I mean Tinman for IS5 ig but that's for extra load

[obtuse obsidian]

radian is broken in IS6

she also raised by playing IS6

[sterile stag]

Is it worth serting reed2 to swap silence here? I know she is more of a caster but she is probably better at healing anyway

[spare jetty]

rosesalt for like is6ed2 if u feel its not enough to survive

[pseudo flume]

Tinman was just brought so he'll carry more of your load compared to others

[obtuse obsidian]

monster is enough healing since you kinda only healing mlynar in this team

[pseudo flume]

Reedic is a Caster with a Side Job of Healing 🚬

[robust thistle]

She cant replace a pure healer
And you already have like 4 arts dps there

[main meadow]

yo just saw his design and I love it lol, I will get him, and I mainly getting new unit because I need goldcer, only 2 more before I can get 2 x10 tickets

[ancient sonnet]

If you need more damage

[pseudo flume]

They have 3 Casters 🚬

[ancient sonnet]

More damage is more damage

[obtuse obsidian]

sakiko count as half a caster

so 3 and a half :ya:

[spare jetty]

what if 90RES

[sterile stag]

Yeah, that's reasonable

[glass panther]

Is reed good op as medic?

[worldly carbon]

wisadel:

[pseudo flume]

Do not pull

[robust thistle]

Backread a bit

[pseudo flume]

She's a Caster acting like a fraud Medic

[thorny edge]

wangussy:

[glass panther]

I see okok

[pseudo flume]

She heals 0 if she can't deal dmg

[obtuse obsidian]

wang does 0 dps for 3 months in global tbh

[worldly carbon]

texalt also can reduce res by 30% if you think about it so maybe that's 60 or something

[ancient sonnet]

If you want to use her purely as a medic - don't

[spare jetty]

assuming he doesn't exist

[rustic cloud]

Yeah, I got siege dupe again (4th time)

[thorny edge]

yssugnaw

[nimble kite]

It's a caster in disguise.

[pseudo flume]

Wangs'adele

[obtuse obsidian]

2 more left

[earnest copper]

Is there any of the lvl 1, 6* i should focus on? Pasting my line up for ref as well

[pseudo flume]

I mean Lapplter

[worldly carbon]

that's all

[obtuse obsidian]

tbf lapp alter is level 2 not 1

[pseudo flume]

Also use Myrtle S1

[worldly carbon]

also ascalon s2 not s3

[obtuse obsidian]

conisder canta after lapp

[split sphinx]

consider surfer 🧠

[pseudo flume]

Also use Eyjaberry S1

Eyjaberry Global Heal is niche

[obtuse obsidian]

fuck i somehow deleteed the image of surfer e0 art

[earnest copper]

Thanks guys! Great that i checked in here. Got useful advice. 🙂 appreciate it

[worldly carbon]

is thorns alter also using s3? I can't tell I dunno his icons

[earnest copper]

Yes..

[worldly carbon]

yeah might want to change that to s2 can't assume latest skill is always best

[sharp shuttle]

Am thinking of going melee since I don’t really need aoe at all but what do y’all think

[ancient sonnet]

Gamble AoE for Ifrit?

[earnest copper]

Astgenne is no go?

[ashen surge]

What's the reason for clearing up to S5-9 in the beginner roadmap?
Is it for material farming?

[urban sleet]

Its aoe regardless, be it ifrit or mpstima both are niche

[worldly carbon]

you're better off with orchid

[sharp shuttle]

I feel like I alr got decent aoe

[earnest copper]

Ok so lapp alter only then. 🙂

[humble nova]

Stronghold alliance is where lone trail (ad astra) bgm and ui pack might comes in right? or was it during nasti / vector event? I forgot

[ancient sonnet]

It's only for niche or if you don't have her. You won't get anything gamebreaking from Recruitment

[sharp shuttle]

Brother am as broke as the daylight anything new is gamebreaking for me

[pseudo flume]

I think just Recipe Unlocks

[sharp shuttle]

Literally the only thing I got covered is aoe

[lyric jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074327620470194306/1497196839521489019/image0.jpg?ex=69eca4b7&is=69eb5337&hm=1b6e4956f1e86bc347815864ab62b03c5127dfd6206f504bb820709dec0e3f59& are any of these worth upgrading to use?

[worldly carbon]

I have bad news

[haughty holly]

if we're pushing it, I guess vulpis and astegene

[nimble kite]

None.
Really.

[spare jetty]

whoops! all no

[rain forge]

If you’re new then FedEx isn’t a bad pick

[haughty holly]

astegene surprisingly a good slower

[ancient sonnet]

Thing is, they are barely new. You can just gamble Top Op alone and see what you get. Or get Ch'en with those tags guaranteed

[pseudo flume]

If that's the case account looks verdantly homegrown

[ashen surge]

For recipe its just up to S9-4.
And skip to 15-9, I don't see any other recipe, which is why I'm wondering.
Because if its just for material farming I'll postpone it.

[earnest copper]

Pram alter is s2m3? Mod 3 too?

[sharp shuttle]

Choose ranged or Melee and am gonna do it

[rain forge]

who knows maybe they godrolled the day 3 kernel 10 pull

[nimble kite]

Show your bite from Shileds

[worldly carbon]

she just needs 20 or so attacks to get +20 aspd

[rain forge]

also weren’t we supposed to get like 7 free kernel pulls as part of some login or am I schizo

[pseudo flume]

I think the S9-4 is Salt while 15-9 is the piss jar

[coarse tide]

Hi gays

[sharp shuttle]

Guys choose ranged or melee for top op and amma do it cause it can’t get worse

[worldly carbon]

hi non-straight

[shadow bay]

only exalter float in this list

[coarse tide]

How is my base looking

[nimble kite]

Maybe solo Top alone?

[pseudo flume]

In shambles 🤫

[sharp shuttle]

Eh ok

[ancient sonnet]

If anything I'd go for ranged

[pine plover]

what base?

[coarse tide]

‼️

[pine plover]

twice better than rechord's

[worldly carbon]

I should take an screenshot with 0 LMD gains for 3 days to spite base builders

[opaque remnant]

EXP production is still below 30k

[ashen surge]

Yes and the guide recommend to clear Chapter 4 then clear Chapter 5 up to S5-9 which doesn't contribute to any recipe unlocking so I was wondering if its for material farming or does it unlock any other feature that I shouldn't miss out on for long.

[coarse tide]

Ikr mayu lied‼️

[sharp shuttle]

I got passenger from top op and Ngl that’s actually decent in my situation 🙏

[rain bridge]

Guys is Gladiia good?

[coarse tide]

Not good enough

[spare jetty]

so rechord must've be 24k

[nimble kite]

Not really, but I can shill to you a bit.

[rain bridge]

How about Silence Alter?

[worldly carbon]

she just pull enemies into holes
we have rope that does that for half the cost

[sharp shuttle]

Now the question is how to build passenger and what skill is the best

[nimble kite]

That one is shit on birth.

[shadow bay]

she is the best puller, problem is do u rly need one

she is fame to nurse ulpi, but it take many resources to do, while u can just settle with a medic

[pine plover]

look at lmd produced not gold bar worth

[rain bridge]

How about Lumen?

[spare jetty]

i see

[shadow bay]

eat way too much resources for a mid performance

[nimble kite]

No.

Let's just mention worth attention instead:
KroosAlter and Tequila.
Forget about the rest.

[worldly carbon]

you're about to find the free 6 stars other than raidian and maybe clownslayer might be a bait

[spare jetty]

wait
mine is at 29k+

[shadow bay]

also i feel like this happen... blud naming all welfares asking if good or not
it may be the same person

[rain bridge]

Ah ok got it, i already got those 2. Sooo i guess i just start unlocking the side stories ramdomly. No need to prioritize any one.

[sharp shuttle]

What is passenger’s best skill

[ancient sonnet]

29k LMD?

[worldly carbon]

I mean, miksaparato isn't all that bad, is he? 🤔

[proven kelp]

Unless they changed the Stage Requirements for Recipe and Wiki is just outdated, Crystalline Electronic Unit is lock behind S5-9

[spare jetty]

plus 2.5m leftovers from my previous 5k gold bars

[coarse tide]

Brokie...

[potent trellis]

Do you have other casters? Not sure if he's good to build nowadays

[nimble kite]

Just Cuora.

[past ferry]

Soo, i have those specialist tokens from IS2

And I heard that characters with full pots on event rerun grant you gold certs. And Portatori event is near amd I have Crownslayer Pot 2. Is it sane to use those tokens on Crownslayer to get more certs afterwards (since pots don't grant anything useful anyway)?

[sharp shuttle]

Amiya bro

[ancient sonnet]

They ain't worth much if you can't trade them for LMD

[royal barn]

Once I reach soft pity how many pulls would i prob need to get a 6*

[carmine trout]

Whats sash's best skill to mastery?

[coarse tide]

More

[keen hedge]

Congratulations 🎉🥳

[opaque remnant]

Pins

[sharp shuttle]

@potent trellis so bro should I build 🙏

[urban sleet]

Domt build pass hes a pass

[potent trellis]

Hmm.. S3 and note he also needs mod3 basically heavy investment with ehhh perfomance

[sharp shuttle]

It’s Amiya or this guy

[abstract mauve]

hi chat, when CN livestream

[spare jetty]

RA reasons

[left tulip]

I think will take another day

[urban sleet]

25th

[abstract mauve]

when on the 25th?

[sharp shuttle]

Eh Ngl I was thinking just going for mod 2 and just skill 1

[urban sleet]

I'd assume 1-2 hrs before current time, as that was the case last time too

[spare jetty]

2am but what UTC

[sterile kayak]

is there anyone i should build for my general roster? also is monster a good addition to my team? might swipe her up

[nimble kite]

Should be the same time as yours

[spare jetty]

wuh

[potent trellis]

Dont build him then

[nimble kite]

11:30 GTM.

[worldly carbon]

I wanna ask something to FAE but I'm slightly shy...

[urban bolt]

When do these unlock?

[true pagoda]

Im confused what do i do with black orbs

[thorny edge]

remove them

[spare jetty]

destroy it

[sharp shuttle]

I literally have nothing else except Amiya and 4 stars for damn drones

[urban sleet]

Coulf consider necrass, and yeah mon3tr is good, kick out ptilo for her
Or maybe even silverash since you have the band

[ancient sonnet]

Mon3tr is good, not sure about swiping. You can build Necrass for general content

[true pagoda]

How, nothing is doing dmg and getting stunned

[pseudo flume]

Let me check something

[thorny edge]

take a deep breath and believe in yourself. its ok if you get rejected, i fully support you.

[sharp shuttle]

I thought at least him being able to hit multi with slow will help with clearing the sky a bit

[pine plover]

it's pretty much a weiqi/go game

[worldly carbon]

@proven kelp btw may I ask why s3 and why modY? also I'd like to call @sick loom here

[true pagoda]

I dont get it

[urban sleet]

Holy pallas mention

[thorny edge]

gng bro wanted a second opinion

[true pagoda]

Its mostly the stun thats getting me what do i do with the stun

[past ferry]

No way that character is real

[worldly carbon]

I had to ping jobless the Pallas enthusiast

[thorny edge]

js dont get too many around you
they're also based off hitcount

[pine plover]

basically when operator get surrounded by black pieces, they die
which is one of core gameplay of weiqi

[sharp shuttle]

@potent trellis It ain’t like am gonna E2 him am just planning to E1, am wayyyy too broke rn to actually get E2 so am prob not getting mod as well

[urban sleet]

Read up pinned guide in #is-station

[lofty vale]

Shes a good unit and your roster can use her well
It’s up to you whether its worth swiping but since you mentioned it you are probably inclined to it anyways

I’ll probably at least wait till the livestream in CN tmr though

[wraith shoal]

they rotate every few weeks

[worldly carbon]

how old is the roadless camelot spreadsheet btw

[proven kelp]

Y is for Flexibility, being in ranged tiles allows for better placement for buffing

S3 cuz s1 is a shitty afk skill that why bother using it for that, might as well just use s3 for buffing to have some value for the team

[potent trellis]

💀 you can build him if you think you need casters badly but he just kinda ehh used mainly on RA

[pseudo flume]

Just checked something from /material in #bot-spam, it looks like some best early farm ig?

[sharp shuttle]

Unless ur telling me to leave the sky with all the drones bro

[potent trellis]

[pseudo flume]

Fae since your here is my guess for clearing S5-9 correct?

[karmic turtle]

Do I choose Saria? I don't really have any 4-6 star defenders and I have silver ash alt and pramanix alt

[worldly carbon]

silverash

[opaque remnant]

Pins

[pseudo flume]

@ashen surge

[proven kelp]

Yes, unless the wiki is outdated as shit, S5-9 should unlock CEU

[sharp shuttle]

Actually am kinda struggling on annihilation and I really need a support but if I use him I could skip using 2 4 star sniper which can free up a slot for extra defender

[pine plover]

tbf, pallas talent 2 is like bootleg soloblade trait

[sharp shuttle]

That’s prob the only use so might as well get him E1 at least

[pine plover]

but get more stats when is healthy instead of when is dying from talent 1

[worldly carbon]

usually she can't tank a thing stronger than a wild dog and isn't able to heal herself properly tho

[toxic anvil]

Yo gang where is the spreadsheet that has Module rating recommendation?

[wraith shoal]

@proven kelp are all those yuri drawings in the guides yours, cause holy

[worldly carbon]

have you tried looking at pins?

[humble nova]

guys I found a life hack.
If you're out of sanity but need to do a few stages for the task board, go to Heart of Surging Flame on their sanity free (0) stages 🤯 👍

[potent trellis]

[worldly carbon]

FAE is slightly degen
and I don't mean brecher

[proven kelp]

Yes, anything with Yuri is mine

[opaque remnant]

You mean the dailies?

[humble nova]

yeye

[craggy belfry]

i dint know this was a thing before taking to yall now i do

[wraith shoal]

off topic but nice art mate

[spare jetty]

yuri is good trust me

[proven kelp]

[worldly carbon]

fae is a cutie

[proven kelp]

Oh in case you're asking if i draw those, then no lmao

[wraith shoal]

Damn thought we had an artist here

[worldly carbon]

hey fae what is your take on CE? 🤔

[polar hollow]

hi what do I do with my abstract currencies

[worldly carbon]

did you max pot snowhunter?

[polar hollow]

1 pot off max

[spare jetty]

what artist
we have spreadsheet profs

[karmic turtle]

Is myrrh good?

[humble nova]

either keep em for material currencies on the parametric shop. or buy five star dupes for gold certs

[worldly carbon]

you can get silence for free tho

[karmic turtle]

I chose red

[wraith shoal]

orienteering banner kinda ass ngl. Blaze2 and zuo le worth to go for?

[worldly carbon]

I'm leaving
have a great day

[proven kelp]

Hot
She's okay, nothing too impressive and not that bad

Generally not that relevant due to nature of being a buffer
She has strong survivability buff, very strong as long as she herself isn't targeted, she ensure everyone on her range won't die

[wheat saddle]

damn does buying Snow Hunter dupes from the data contract store actually convert into gold certs

[pine plover]

7 out of 10 newbie fell for red

[near hollow]

is silverash alter fine skipping if i got pramanix alter & have a goat roster already? not sure about dumping 200 pulls for a 35% chance

[shadow bay]

have good skin so that gave her massive buff

[spare jetty]

i fell for 3 specialist

[sick loom]

Depending on the skill, you can switch modules. S2 and S1 are highly recommended with Mod-X, unless you have a very specific deployment plan for her in the stage. Never use S3 without Mod-Y, and Mod-Y Overall better like mod-x has very small improvement in damage

[worldly carbon]

since she hot I might aswell raise her after I get other priorities done
thanks fae, you're a great help
mwah

[shadow bay]

sure

not like ull miss big when u missed him

[near hollow]

wym by that

[worldly carbon]

my goat, I can always rely on you

[shadow bay]

like ull be fine in gen content even without having sashter...

[sick loom]

Also MOD-Y way better in late chapters

[coarse tide]

Pallas user...

[wraith shoal]

bump

[worldly carbon]

THE Pallas user

[near hollow]

im not really worried about general content

[sick loom]

also module itself never states but mod-y upgrades also make pallas attack fast as much as executioner specialists, which is fast

[ancient sonnet]

Zuo might be, but that's only if you have neither Tragodia and Ulpi

[pine plover]

pallas is such operator which both module and 3 skills can find use, but then you need to push hard for her to be useable

[near hollow]

but this might be a good idea now that you get them for free at 300 pulls, i could just go 300 next time if i get lucky, claim the limited and then spark salter

85/300 rn, 567 pulls saved up

[ancient sonnet]

Sparking is rarely a good idea

[karmic turtle]

Is the new rate up worth to pull?

[spare jetty]

*never

[sick loom]

Mod-y better than mod-x
but mod-x if youre spesificly buffing pallas with other operators because everything with pallas scales funnily

[wraith shoal]

I'm planning on choosing Tragodia, Blaze2 and Zuo le since I have ulpianus. That seems like the best lineup but if 2/3 are bad then I dont wanna gamble on a 33% chance on good character

[jaunty eagle]

should i cert reed?~

[pine plover]

+5 ASPD on mod3 feels like a crime when most get +7 at mod3

[haughty holly]

No

[pine plover]

this is unfair

[ancient sonnet]

Up to you, Blaze alt is meh afaik, so you get a 33% to get a meh op

[slim tusk]

it's a bad odds just wait for trag rerun atp

[paper swan]

How's Passenger?

[spare jetty]

no

[shadow bay]

then ig ur doing higher end contents

in which u have niches u already set on at that point, hence u can filter what u rly need and what not

[pine plover]

there are really not enough good Minos operators to make full use of her mod-X tbh

[nimble kite]

Bad

[wraith shoal]

RA savant

[lyric jewel]

are any of these worth using 180 yellow certs on? and is reed the flame shadow worth using certs on? i have mon3tr

[sick loom]

it is just criminal to ignore how much pallas can heal with mod-y

[spare jetty]

no

[nimble kite]

ReedAlter isn't a medic, but more a caster.

[paper swan]

Kernel is never worth it

[pine plover]

she could have got +2 more ASPD
fuck you HG

[ancient sonnet]

Reed alt is a caster with some healing as a bonus. Treating her as a healer will just get you burnt

[paper swan]

Are there any incantation medics that actually heal good?

[slim tusk]

reed heals good

[paper swan]

Oh right, the issue is needing something to hit

[ancient sonnet]

They do heal good, but they need stuff to hit

[shadow bay]

and the enemy dont have giga res

[worldly carbon]

I shall m9 pallas and get mody one day in your honor my goat

[paper swan]

I guess they have a niche in IS of being a Caster in a Medic voucher???

[left tulip]

Oh looks cool

I will look into wtf she does

[pine plover]

she whips you to heal you

[nimble kite]

I remember Folinic S2 can both heal allies if no enemies present, and attack enemies if one present.

[worldly carbon]

she whips the enemy please shiyon

[ancient sonnet]

They can is you don't need a fulltime medic

[paper swan]

Just kill them before they kill you type shit

[pine plover]

you are in between anyway

[brazen gulch]

good anti-air at least in is5

[spare jetty]

is4:

[sick loom]

and pallas s2 is just way too niche to consider, and there is better alternatives to what pallas can do with s2,
but hey apperantly 0.2 sec stun aint that bad

[pine plover]

amiya medic is your choice of medic when IS deny you of medic ticket

[paper swan]

Who do we have so far as Incantation Medics?

I know Amiya has it as one of her classes

[pine plover]

hibiscus, loughshinny, magdelene shaw, medjehtiqedti

[left tulip]

Is pallas used in some particularly niche scenarios or

[haughty holly]

[sick loom]

generaly used to hold singular lane againts mid-high defense enemies and shes just good at that particulary
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986557864048988170/996355115902578799/Ballas.mp4?ex=69ec9083&is=69eb3f03&hm=98e39ae6a65cf78cb0b556a6fa38ba750b31b9751a5d54fe40c3302a1abeb34f&

[wet pine]

Hi chat, how do I properly use SA S3? I feel like I'm under using it

[nimble kite]

...her base skill is weaker than Conviction on E1, even by doing the same thing 🥀

Like, unless you're into drunk goats, you don't need her by any means.

[left tulip]

Is it specifically because of the healing you’ve shown earlier

[proven kelp]

You just use her in the same situation where you use a generic laneholder, but you know, worse than basically every other modern option

or use her as a buffer, a 50% Atk buff buffer, might as well use Warf

[nimble kite]

She's best unit... from worse Guard archtype, where it usually just gets skipped even in niche clears.

[earnest copper]

How good is raidian?

[spark gyro]

Best trust farm map?

[left tulip]

So the answer is no ?

[robust thistle]

IS6 carry

[earnest copper]

That's all?

[pine plover]

her buff is regional limited (Minos)

[nimble kite]

Trust amount gains is equals to Sanity Cost, so whatever you pick.

[earnest copper]

I can't complete Sui IS 🙁

[robust thistle]

decent summoner outside of IS, but thats it

[wet pine]

How do I use it to it's full potential

[robust thistle]

if you cant clear IS6 then your raidian is stuck too anyways

[lofty vale]

She’s a free unit so if you don’t have anyone else she’s good early game
She’s also a summoner so good in trust farms

[opaque remnant]

simply borrow strong units

[left tulip]

Two strong units helps a lot more than one

[sick loom]

no, it is because her scaling is funny with s1 for 17-15dp op

[spare jetty]

is station pins

[sick loom]

and her vigor buff is just only good with herself, so dont even bother buffing anyone
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1158893883795714139/2023-10-04_01-26-45_Trim.mp4?ex=69ec97c9&is=69eb4649&hm=420f4658fefbb5c2a63412095eb22bb9e692c81cc95358f3c2e8d2ea9ca9df5b&

[spark gyro]

Does it matter how many units i have on my squad?

[shadow bay]

whats with the wave of pallas querry

[pine plover]

wait, when is lone trail ui theme sale again?

[nimble kite]

No, so fill all 12 slots.

[shadow bay]

thast why trust farm exist

[proven kelp]

Hmm really?
The skill doesn't say anything about restricted to Minos tho

ATK +100% and attacks two additional targets. If there is an allied Melee Operator in the tile ahead, grant them the following effects: Gain Vigor effect of +50% ATK when HP is above 80%, DEF +35%, Block +1 (If there are no Operators or they are not Melee, grant the effect to self instead)

[spark gyro]

Oh oki thankss

[pine plover]

talent

[proven kelp]

And im talking about s3, since thats the 50% Atk buff i was talking about

[grim tree]

Can the frozen blue box block drones?

[proven kelp]

unless you can give the Blue Box take off, no

[calm raptor]

Is this worth buying?

[pine plover]

ground to ground blocking

[nimble kite]

No, it will say "Welcome" and brings some tea.

[robust thistle]

can you give blue box take off

[coarse tide]

.... .. / --. .- -.-- ...

[slate ridge]

In 2027 maybe

[shadow bay]

yeh, if u can do it monthly

[proven kelp]

Maybe in the future

[robust thistle]

buy it out every month
its like the timegated material

[pine plover]

maybe give aerial enemies grounded status instead
like giving ground enemies levitate

[grim tree]

Who's the best blue box healer?

[proven kelp]

CE s1

[grim tree]

Ok thanks

[nimble kite]

plz no

[shadow bay]

wtf we healing blue box now?

[split sphinx]

pramrot

[pine plover]

is6 dragon eat the blue box then gain flight

[nimble kite]

not that bard slop again

[robust thistle]

isnt it thornstar

[shadow bay]

technology advancing way too fast

although ive seen this rotating anni showcase using pram alt and thorn alt.. and one body

[grim tree]

Nah, doing it just for fun.

Oh... thornsalter finally seeing some use in my acc

[pine plover]

fake red box vs frozen blue box

[grim tree]

Well, I wouldn't get shocked if somehow we get to disable red boxes in the future

[pine plover]

EA annihilation with all fake red boxes spawning enemies that dont count toward 400 kills

[lyric jewel]

the upcoming orienteering headhunting banner seems to be different from the one in the roadless camelot guide, is it still worth pulling? ive only tragodia out of the six

[proven kelp]

Unless im missing something
Thorns2 s1 heals 93 HPS while CE s1 heals 121 HPS

[left tulip]

Banners are subject to change when they come to global, DO NOT pull the banner

[pine plover]

doesnt thorn2 s2 also heal?

[grim tree]

No, bait banner = bad

[pine plover]

CN orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Nymph, Narantuya, Mlynar, Stainless
Global orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Blaze2, Zuo Le, Swire2, Stainless

[shadow bay]

u already got the golden prize in the banner

i dont think ulpi or zuo worth gambling, esp if ur sitting fine in general

[wraith shoal]

only reason to pull on this is probably if you dont have tragodia

[proven kelp]

If you use Thorns2 s2, its just a worse s1 since its 18% vs s1's 20%

[brazen gulch]

(for healing)

also worse uptime

[split sphinx]

cn favoritism but it's aite

[split sphinx]

just wait trag solo banner atp

[pine plover]

maybe becuase thorns2 s1 last for 8 seconds but SP cost is 5

[brazen gulch]

even 11 because of the talent

[pine plover]

12 seconds with module

[junior hull]

Does doing masteries for SA alter's S2 change the SP count? Or does it just add more damage??

[brazen gulch]

13 with potential

[pine plover]

which also, you can throw another s1 while it's still active

[wraith shoal]

s2 masteries have shit gains

[pine plover]

in which you can stack like 3 s1 on the frozen blue box

[proven kelp]

Oh fair

[grim harness]

Can I expect the same loss limited operators when me, a global player, gonna look at chen alter banner?

[lofty vale]

What

[pine plover]

maybe with SP battery he can even stack 4 times s1

[shadow bay]

open wide baby boy

[pine plover]

+1 initial SP, how big

[shadow bay]

it would help if u believe enuf trust

[wraith shoal]

what?

[shadow bay]

so yeh s2 masteries mostly for dmg

dont think that extra 1 sec invi reveal is that grand lol

[opaque remnant]

+1 intial SP is truly amazing

[lofty vale]

Meme Ulpianus mastery

[sacred fossil]

the 300 claim from hard pity is not the same as the 300 totem for sparking right?

[junior hull]

So it basically added +1 second to reveal invis enemies and 1 more initial sp, my boi Silverash got done dirty

[shadow bay]

seperate yeh

so u get sashter for free, and spark a unit u want

[shadow bay]

dont forget the extra dmg scale... but yeh

[sacred fossil]

How I wish i can get PramAlt for free

[lofty vale]

120% damage multiplier on slashes on whoever is coming in

[grim harness]

I mean how else I was supposed to explain

[pine plover]

the funny thing about alchemist is that their skill is instant, and the one actually has duration is the zone created by the skill
so with enough SP battery, you can stack the skill over and over
there is reason why thorns2 s3 debuff specifically mention it doesnt stack

[lofty vale]

Honestly less being backloaded into masteries is good

[grim harness]

Literally limited operators you are getting from losing

[astral thorn]

Is reed flame shadow worth gold certing?

[lofty vale]

Being able to access the full kit at SL7 means you can possibly even leave him E1

[wraith shoal]

you didnt word it well at all. If you mean if you can spark these ops the answer is no. If you mean if the currency stays after the banner ends the answer is still no

[astral thorn]

I dont knkw what pinching hand means sorry

[shadow bay]

if u still lack arts dps, she may be a good addition to ur roster
she can also heal while doing that... so plus on her ig

[pine plover]

~~smol pp energy, ~~not worth most of the time

[astral thorn]

Ive got logos and pralter am I okay ?

[topaz temple]

very

[astral thorn]

Thx

[sacred fossil]

continue to roll for PramAlt or just give up, stop rolling and spark for a limited unit

[pine plover]

different limited banner has different limited operators pool

[shadow bay]

reedic is funny once in a while when map have trash mobs

so u can see the fireworks

[left tulip]

You didn’t get pramalt yet?

[pine plover]

you can claim that free silverash2 without costing spark currency

[grim harness]

But would they be the same roster as jp?

[slender temple]

Buy Pram2 in the shop if that's what you feel like doing

[sacred fossil]

Nope

[pine plover]

JP, EN, KR is global server

[left tulip]

How much pity do you have

[grim harness]

oK fine CN

[shadow bay]

then dont sink more unless rich and want pram alt badly

[wraith shoal]

wang banner is the cny banner, different ops

[pine plover]

ofc, it will be same
it always been same

for 6+ years

[topaz temple]

Guys how good is nearl2 for stuff like CC, IS. or should I just spark a safer option in texalter 🙂

[sacred fossil]

None I guess, it's just squeezing out OP from events/Story. I could try to hit the next soft pity

[shadow bay]

this is me btw saying while sinking 306 pulls for a single copy of lemuen

[lyric jewel]

how do i beat is6 so i can e2 raidian

[haughty holly]

Trash vs garbage

[steep pivot]

when will this outfit sell again :33

[left tulip]

? When did you get your last 6 star

[topaz temple]

i got pot 4 pram2 before a silverash

[shadow bay]

consult hermitzplanner

should be in pins or #bot-spam

[wraith shoal]

borrow a tragodia and it's easy

[grim harness]

ah so, every limited banner have the same options as the screenshot I sent?

[sacred fossil]

280 ish, so next is probably 30-40 rolls

[topaz temple]

U mean gold vs gold

[tired wraith]

What is happening in 6-5? I feel like my team is really strong and I clear everything so far with easy but 6-5 I get stomped hard like really hard...

[haughty holly]

No its quite literally what I said
There are better sparks

[urban sleet]

If you are f2p stop after getting both rate-ups

[shadow bay]

ur ops sl7?

[pine plover]

summer will have summer only limited

[wraith shoal]

no, we have 3 different limited banners with different pools

[chrome prawn]

Use exu alter and anything else #is-station

[tired wraith]

sl7 is Skill level 7 right?

[topaz temple]

I'm only missing spalter and mumu and the 2 I mentioned

[pine plover]

like you wont see wisadel in summer limited banner, or banner with sui siblings like nian and her ragtag of family

[shadow bay]

oh 6-5 is that stage with throwers at top lane

[tired wraith]

Yea they 4 shot my tanks o.O

[haughty holly]

Mumu is a better niche vanguard that works with sash2

[slender temple]

Need strong defender ig, not sure if Jessica's gonna cut it

[haughty holly]

Spalter is staller #2837732

[pine plover]

bugfixed

[left tulip]

Idk, if you want pram and have the pulls you can keep going, personally I wouldn’t a standard is that worth it but that’s the collector inside me speaking, sparking her if you wang her would be valid. Ultimately idk you got forced in a pretty awkward position but unless you aren’t interested in any ops except pram then I would keep going

[haughty holly]

Ok then it's just for niche purposes then

[pine plover]

[grim harness]

who should I expect from this spark shop when Chen alter banner arrives? Its just the first time I am gonna try saving 300 pulls.

[shadow bay]

either place dps here facing up

or borrow a really bulky unit... support penance should do the trick here

[wraith shoal]

all the cny limited ops from the past

[left tulip]

You can check for wiki for the past units of every limited banner

[topaz temple]

borrow a hoshiguma or something

[shadow bay]

and ofc watch out for ur deployment order (outside of deploying miweenar since he have +taunt... probably place him somewhere safe)

[haughty holly]

@urban sleet if u had to pick between Nearl2 or tex2 which one will be less sufferable to play
Also they listed mumu and Spalter as an option

[left tulip]

Doesn’t turbohealing mlynar or smth work, it worked with tequila on my end and I had hamsel and hibiscus

[potent trellis]

Is Ling still good in big 2026?

[haughty holly]

Mid

[tired wraith]

I can use these ase support

[potent trellis]

Eh?

[tulip cliff]

Is she good or no? I'm trying my best to get silverash alter or more pramanix alter copies :>

[wraith shoal]

find better supports

[topaz temple]

uhhh you could try s1 lol (for hoshialt)

[left tulip]

@tired wraith

[potent trellis]

Oh alright

[shadow bay]

refresh more lol....

if ur using support abuse it

[pine plover]

you can borrow a better hoshiguma because they recently removed the limitation for borrowed operator

[haughty holly]

Long answer ish
She works better if it's a solo team or something
But in a full team she sucks cuz she takes up deployment spot

[pine plover]

now i can use m3 skills of non-friend operator is borrowed

[tired wraith]

mlynar takes to long to charge up here I think

[potent trellis]

Noted wont build for now

[slim dove]

hey is mlyner good?

[slender temple]

Cuora and beagle are enough to tank the thrower from both sides btw, not sure how you fail at this

[wraith shoal]

yes

[left tulip]

You don’t need him charged, just to tank the spears

[tired wraith]

Willm try

[tired wraith]

Oh hmmm, I will try

[haughty holly]

U can still build her for fun tho, extremely big dragon with triple the health of max hp ops will never not be funny

[left tulip]

He has taunt too should be really easy

[shadow bay]

this is just a quick think strat yeh

if u still struggle later on... head to #strategy
that chat mostly for in depth stage guidance... maybe ull pick better strat lol

[tired wraith]

Will do thanks a lot guys!

[rain forge]

what time is the livestream tmr

[pine plover]

that cost 3 deployment limit (1 her and 2 from stacked dragon)

[sacred fossil]

I was expecting to get both within 300 and spark a limited unit. But RNG happens and I got 0 PramAlt. Just not sure If i wanna keep going given that I dont really have a good Caster roster

[slim dove]

guess stickking with him then. wanted to try pulling wis adel or lappy alt but he'll do 😔

[deep sandal]

are we just having bait banners until wang?

[wraith shoal]

trying pulling for an offrate limited is beyond crazy

[left tulip]

You can be gloriously happy you got him lol, the odds for getting those two are tragically low anyway

[slender temple]

Not even good baits, both are niche as hell

[haughty holly]

No way she takes 2 on stacked dragon
That's... Even worse on a full team

[keen hedge]

Hello, is Beanstalk a good option to raise for integrated strategies with Mitm and Vigil built?

[pine plover]

me who kept getting offrate limited instead of any 6star rate up

[left tulip]

Let’s swap spots pls pls

[pine plover]

i have pot 4 wisadel now

[chrome prawn]

She is good for early but do nothing on late game except for bait and dp

[left tulip]

Ong we gotta swap spots then

[slim dove]

tbh i didnt know he existed before i got him im not giaving up on wis adel yet tho i checked the thread for upcoming events and they all seem butt cheeks

[amber robin]

who are we getting ? and wang is in 3 month right?

[robust thistle]

Probably the s1 def buff

[solemn lodge]

Gold cert reedic buy no buy

[left tulip]

Give up

[wraith shoal]

you should give up. Chances of you getting her are abyssmal

[pine plover]

Nasti Lunorey and Medjehtiqedti

[slim dove]

dont do me like that man

[left tulip]

Wtf is that third name that can’t be real

[pine plover]

the case of HG being too creative but not making them good

[nova ore]

R there any medic that i should be upgrading

[pine plover]

lunorey is nasti's last name'

[wraith shoal]

did you even see Pepe's full name💀

[slender temple]

New ops before Wang are Nasti and Titi, we also got Thorns alter rerun which is whatever, and yes Wang is 3 months away

[left tulip]

Bro have you seen the odds, it’s stacked against you lol be happy you got a good offrate

[topaz temple]

ptilopsis I guess

[pine plover]

Djerwnapekhaper Saciut Hatshepsut

[left tulip]

Be happy if you hit either of those, but banking on it is too likely to ruin you

That or you spark

[slender temple]

Puresteam, I got a feeling you haven't built your other base slaves too so please do

[past rune]

Hi which skill best to m3 for paramix alter?

[haughty holly]

No info on nasti and titi kit right?

[wraith shoal]

we already know how they work

[haughty holly]

S2m3

[slender temple]

Everything about them is already out like 4-5 months ago bud

[haughty holly]

Oh
whoops

[pine plover]

how did we shit on those two if we didnt know before hand?

[haughty holly]

I genuinely was not paying attention when u guys are talking about it
somehow

[slender temple]

Understandable since they're kinda forgettable

[nova ore]

Yeah i havent built any of them

[deep sandal]

wait titi is that bad? i only know her due to the brainrot

[thorny geyser]

is there any way to farm the event currency without doing the tasks?

[clear depot]

Virtuosa or Texas alt (I have yato alt)

[frozen dawn]

farm stages?

[thorny geyser]

oh that drops it?

[frozen dawn]

yeah but only the event stages obv

[wraith shoal]

only the normal ones, not ex ones. Those only give some on first clear

[frozen dawn]

how did you get previous events' currency when you didnt know this

[slender temple]

Niche as I said, sleep is cool stalling tool for harder contents but you wouldn't use her outside those

[slate sigil]

i got tequila but isn't sash better option to use in battle?

[thorny geyser]

are there any real good sources of exp mats? even one-time ones, i really need to get my ops levels up

[proven kelp]

Why eat only 1 cake when you can eat 2

[left tulip]

How much shit in this game is sleep immune

[frozen dawn]

IS

[slender temple]

Sash may have bigger AoE and dmg once fully built but his skill cycling is horrible, basically 2 times of Tequila's skill cycle. And there's no rule against using both so you can schwing schwing more often

[thorny geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-deadge-amiya-gif-8585331441571942741

[left tulip]

Im looking at titis kit and i rly like it ngl but being made useless by an immunity could make it really sad

[potent trellis]

Does Gnosis is mod need mod3?

[slender temple]

Base?

[thorny geyser]

ya ofc, but in terms of rewards

[frozen dawn]

you can do the special squad missions in IS. the ones where u have to deploy x character for 10 times and other shi. gives you around 15 records for each

[thorny geyser]

oh sweet

[twilit swallow]

Is It possible to time Yu second skill with 4 sui shu buff 1 SP + silverash S2 for the big atk buff?

[left tulip]

[solemn lodge]

Buy reedic with gcert yes or no?

[slate sigil]

i was thinking to use specter with sash

[left tulip]

Then get 3 cakes

[coarse gull]

You can purposefully lose the stage once the task is completed btw to make it quicker (at least for me)

[slender temple]

Wouldn't recommend it

[proven kelp]

Then just all 3
Tequila is free and doesn't really need the E2 Voucher

[modest crater]

how do you beat this level?

[jovial urchin]

Chat, Frostleaf S1M3 or S2M3?

[rain forge]

is neither an option

[left tulip]

I think wis can solo clear it look up on arkrec

[jovial urchin]

Just borrow Yato alter or sum

[slate sigil]

solo wis

[rain forge]

borrow leizi2 and use s3

[modest crater]

i tried it with wis and she instadies

[left tulip]

Are you using a leveled wis

[modest crater]

well yeah lol

[jovial urchin]

Nah, planning to use a ticket anyway, I don't really have anything else in mind

[left tulip]

Then go on arkrec and replicate what’s done there

[slate sigil]

literally today passed this lvl by solo wis

[rain forge]

s1 is the generic attack up y right

[languid swallow]

Just use firewatch s1

[jovial urchin]

Slows + damage

[modest crater]

ill try again ty, do i just put wis?

[frozen dawn]

save it then

[rain forge]

not sure then

[languid swallow]

She'll also block a laser for absolutely free while invis

[left tulip]

You probably didn’t time your revenants well

[slate sigil]

you should use her skill properly to have as mush as possible crystals and then replace from the middle to bottom

[left tulip]

Look up en.arkrec, go to IW and the stage you need, you’ll find a video for the solo clear there

[modest crater]

ok ty

[jovial urchin]

And who exactly am I gonna save it for? I have all the good masteries on 4 stars already

[pine plover]

do note that the boss take less damage if operator isnt in front of it

[proven kelp]

Kill it with Kirin

[left tulip]

Also to save time since you’re not solo clearing, you can retreat her during the last mobs wave and clear it with your own ops, to give yourself more leeway @modest crater

[pine plover]

and first phase attack prioritize ranged operator

[rain forge]

just borrow a leizi2 and use her s3 brah

[harsh marsh]

is it fine if i displace logos in my squad?

tbh, 95% of the time hes just benched either because of the deployment limit or that he's way too fragile, i feel like I could swap him out with probably someone like shamare or umiri, any thoughts? (I haven't imported my operator list into krooster, yet)

[frozen dawn]

maybe in future some good operator shows up because i dont see a point in mastering a skill just because you can. who knows maybe it be helpful in future

[pine plover]

instruction unclear, use leizi who is a kirin

[modest crater]

my characters suck, shes basically solo but with friends cheering on her

[wraith shoal]

get logos his mod

[rain forge]

If you barely use logos now what makes you think you’ll be deploying shamare or umiri

[slender temple]

What does "too fragile" means, he's a freaking caster

[left tulip]

The hit count enemies don’t care about stats once you kill them the first time, even level 1 ops should do the job

[modest crater]

ok ty!!

[frozen dawn]

where are you placing him

[jovial urchin]

I mean like 4 stars aren't my niche anyway so really I'm only eyeing on Sneg or Frostleaf, and I don't even know which skill to master

[pine plover]

en players wonder why their dps cant tank damage

[left tulip]

Get wis to kill them and then let your ops deal with the leftovers to save time on the redeploy

[pine plover]

also IW enemies are hitcount based HP apparition, if you think of using logos s1 to execute them, it wont work because all damage taken is reduced to 1

[rain forge]

tomorrow we’ll see people using Myrtle as a dps

[modest crater]

the site u told ms wont open so ill try again

[pine plover]

wdym, myrtle solo'ed ed2 alter stage of IS5

[rain forge]

[pine plover]

[modest crater]

oh btw, which skill on wisadel?

[left tulip]

It’s not rare for it to be down tough luck if it is but it’s gonna be back up eventually

[frozen dawn]

i understand where you are coming from but both of the operators are so terrible the mastery will be wasted on them

[slender temple]

Can just open YT and search AK IW-9 atp, the first thing that pop up to me was Wis solo clear

[rain forge]

leizi2 s3 kills Sui pretty quickly

[left tulip]

Lemme try leizi I’m curious atp lol

She gotta be able to almost on her own tho

[royal barn]

should i remove anyone for sa alter

[pine plover]

use leizi2 s2 because it's visually more pleasing

[left tulip]

Also how much shit in this game is sleep immune

[pine plover]

[left tulip]

Wdym check mark

[pine plover]

it's correct to use much because their number are uncountable

[slender temple]

Ines herself or maybe Thorns/Gavialt, Raidian too

[frozen dawn]

fun fact: low altitude enemies lose their hovering when slept

[left tulip]

But so, if you had to answer broadly, how often are enemies sleep immune

[harsh marsh]

I know he is a caster, but even pram2 has some survivability kit built around her (great amounts of res when she isn't using her skill, revive in E2 + a lil regen when sash2 is deployed) logos has little to none except his S3 deflecting projectiles (like talulah fireballs, atleast that is my experience using him)

tbf im still in chapter 11 so I don't think I need too much of him, maybe when I'm in chapter 13 or above is when he's starting to be obligatory in my squad

[royal barn]

i still need ines for dp and thorns for flying so ig im dropping raidan or gavi

[pine plover]

why you even let DPS take a hit in the first place

[left tulip]

Pram is special in that regard because she’s a phalanx

[slender temple]

That's because Pram2 is a phalanx caster, casters and range DPSs in general doesn't have survivability with them cuz they're not supposed to be hit to begin with

[lofty vale]

This kind of actually became a thing now cus Pram2 does pretty much what he can while seemingly surviving what seems like Hiroshima sometimes

[frozen dawn]

pram2 has the phalanx trait

[royal barn]

should i keep pulling to try and get other 6stars on saalter banner or just start saving?

[limber pecan]

new gens nowadays cant even use units without self sustain👴

[pine plover]

it's like asking why wizard dies against 1d4 of damage

[left tulip]

If you got both rate ups save

[craggy stirrup]

unless you dont have both featured units, save

[royal barn]

only saalter no pramanix

[limber pecan]

ball knowledge⁉️

[craggy stirrup]

Gamble.

[woven crown]

is Pramanix alt a must pull? I see her a lot now in afk strats

[frozen dawn]

keep trying if you have pulls to spare

[pine plover]

current pinnacle of afk

[lofty vale]

It’s not a must, no units are a must
You can play the game without every unit

[harsh marsh]

seems like I really need to build his module to unlock his true potential, still, any thoughts to replacing him until I complete his module building?

[royal barn]

broke rn but i got like 10-20 event stages to go and story mode

[harsh marsh]

oh right I haven't posted my krooster

[frozen dawn]

nothing is a must pull but yeah shes one of the best afk units

[slender temple]

What I'd suggest you is, build his delta mod and keep him in the sqaud since he's still a freaking nuke button that delete most shits once you press his S3, doesn't have to always drop him but he'll help when you need

[pine plover]

there are even some stages you can win without even playing
like that stage where frostnova died

[left tulip]

Up to you then but pram is good so keep going but it’s not thaaaaaat big of a deal if you don’t get her

[limber pecan]

how many more free pull days are left

[frozen dawn]

well you have time till 28th so gl

[pine plover]

you have like 4 days to gather fund from source unknown to us

[pallid creek]

Swipe bro

[lofty vale]

I mean.. consider the fact that Wang is coming out in 3 months and basically power creeping the entire roster by more or less installing game shark in your game

you really don’t need to feel forced to pull for pram2

[frozen dawn]

nah 1 pull trust

[slender temple]

Also you could replace Ptilopsis with a range anti air DPS here, your healing is more than enough with Haruka and Saria there

[pine plover]

but muh SP recovery boost

[frozen dawn]

pram2 is cuter

[harsh marsh]

she's there to boost sp regen actually, im well aware that the healing is more than adequate in my squad
thanks tho

esp pramanix s2

[slender temple]

Don't cope with that SP Regen as much, it's pretty much whatever

[frozen dawn]

that sp boost aint doing shi

[royal barn]

who's wang

[frozen dawn]

arts wisadel

[vale dock]

sui sibling

[royal barn]

is he any time soon i need arts so bad

[frozen dawn]

3 months

[slender temple]

3 months from now

[potent trellis]

Is wang worth the hype? Like really strong or what

[left tulip]

Dorothy is cuter and more interesting and cool too🥹

[slender temple]

Literally art Wisadel

[pine plover]

he can nuke the entire map while facing toward wall edge

[left tulip]

He’s stupidly busted, but like emphasis on the stupid he’s dumb as fuck

[royal barn]

ngl should i skip pram and start saving now for wang

[lofty vale]

I’m not sure if I’m gonna call it hype
It’s like doomposting for me cus he’s actually so strong

[potent trellis]

Wait, that sound broken as fck 💀

[lofty vale]

I would pretty much just say that Wang is a unit you roll to not play the game

[limber pecan]

how does wangs balls work? when enemies touch his balls they seem to shoot out the white stuff everywhere but not all of the load is shot? how does that work

[frozen dawn]

best arts dmg dealer

[pine plover]

gorrillion of damage scalling and RES ignore

[slender temple]

Pram is more fun as a unit imo but welp sure if you're more into meta stuff

[slate sigil]

wait yall said save for wang and he is 3 monts away? i was thinking it's next or if now first half then after next banner

[frozen dawn]

truth nuke

[glass nexus]

Is pramanix alter better than the normal pramanix

[lofty vale]

In practice you place the balls under everyone and they all die and you spam it until you clear the stage and then go next

[frozen dawn]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing ant

[pine plover]

most of the time, the alter is better

[vale dock]

more time to save

[potent trellis]

Alright i will save thanks wang or bust

[abstract mauve]

guys

[harsh marsh]

should i build snow hunter?
she seems really fun to play

[left tulip]

He’s a "trap master" but instead of traps you just tap the screen where you see enemies and deploy nukes on the enemies directly, no map restrictions

[frozen dawn]

be happy with ray

[silent pendant]

is drinking soda better than having your balls dipped in molten lava and twisted counterclockwise

[harsh marsh]

i don't have her sadly

[abstract mauve]

how many hours till CN livestream

[limber pecan]

so you want the enemies underneath his balls when they touch them?

[left tulip]

Well soda is unhealthy………..

[dark prism]

She's alright for a 5*, but surely you have better units to prioritize

[frozen dawn]

then forget snow hunter exists

[glass nexus]

Ok I get it now

[pine plover]

i remember even coldshot has better damage output than snowhunter

[lofty vale]

What if I’m allergic to soda

[silent pendant]

so is having melted nuts

[wraith shoal]

is the CN stream on bilibili or can we watch it from yt

[lofty vale]

[craggy stirrup]

That's still better than... the described CBT

[frozen dawn]

what allergic reaction is more painful than having your balls melted

[limber pecan]

good thing your balls are not drinking it then

[reef sparrow]

some also stream on yt, like kyo or someone else

[dark prism]

Bilibili, but there'll be re-streams by most content creators on yt

[pine plover]

youtuber just screen share it from bilibili anyway

[abstract mauve]

bilibil but a bunch of content creators stream it as well with some like kyo or dragongjy try to translate

[karmic pivot]

how do i get stone for reclamation algo im new in the mode

[silent pendant]

thank you diet dr pepper

[left tulip]

Youre right, they have a lot of calories and nut allergy is pretty common

[abstract mauve]

kukki is still learning chinese i think

[craggy stirrup]

Wait since the CN stream will be about 7th anni, does that mean the class tokens in red cert will refresh too?

[limber pecan]

no problem, its not my first rodeo with soda and ball dipping👍 (i did not dip my balls in soda let me be clear)

[lofty vale]

??? He’s a 26 year old Chinese male

[dark prism]

They should. The tokens on CN rn are listed as expiring soon

[craggy stirrup]

THANK YOU!!!

[reef sparrow]

I need to farm red certs to buy the tokens

[frozen dawn]

praying its talulah tmr and not that fraud ex wife

[wraith shoal]

hints point at kal2 sadly

[dark prism]

I'll join you in huffing that copium

[lofty vale]

I hope it’s M3
Not Mon3tr but M3

[dark garden]

Who should i spark on 200 pulls?

[pine plover]

and most adult american can only read english at 6th grade level
being native doesnt always help

[frozen dawn]

i hope shes the most mediocre unit

[lofty vale]

He’s not American

[pine plover]

it's comparison you duff

[left tulip]

Why do yall hate her

[abstract mauve]

1. i thought he lived in like singapore. i.e. Singaporean
2. if he is fluent in chinese, he is keeping his talent hidden. he has to read out words letter by letter

[craggy stirrup]

is player: rosmontis
playing for fun: anyone (your waifu)
playing for meta: just let it rot

[slender temple]

*Singaporean

[spare jetty]

being a chinese is a good thing

[dark prism]

I think a lot of people just wanted more time with her gone to let the other important RI characters grow

[frozen dawn]

i dont hate her. i hate the possibility that she will get an alter when there are countless others more deserving

[pine plover]

being a chinese doesnt mean you can read and speak chinese, especially in south east asia

[lofty vale]

Singaporean Chinese yes
Chinese is a race
Well some Singaporean Chinese aren’t very good at Chinese so I guess it’s understandable

[limber pecan]

dont native americans speak a different language

[left tulip]

Fair enough, like bagpipe

[frozen dawn]

i was thinking shining

[reef sparrow]

need more RI elite ops

[left tulip]

True true

[wraith shoal]

we need chen4

[dark prism]

We have chen4 in endfield

[lofty vale]

Why not skip 4 and just give us Ch’en5

[pine plover]

shurely it's skadi3, the abyssal hunter agenda must continue

[frozen dawn]

shining is the biggest "if" i have ever seen in this game

[left tulip]

Another one that’s not an AH too

[abstract mauve]

within the context "Well some Singaporean Chinese aren’t very good at Chinese so I guess it’s understandable". what's wrong with the statement i made?

[limber pecan]

can we get ling alter yet

[pine plover]

monch previously stuck in concept artwork jail before moving to npc jail

[lofty vale]

I read it abit too fast and I yap alot

[slender temple]

What about Saria Alter, being a marksman, and finally redeem the entire subclass with busted kits

[abstract mauve]

fair enough

[limber pecan]

yo when is the d2 collab dropping

[craggy stirrup]

imagine saria just becomes a fighter that heals

[left tulip]

Whats d2

[pine plover]

flash light and forget about

[frozen dawn]

nah make her a brawler

[pine plover]

we dont need a 4th 6star brawler

[limber pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Vxp4s4JgA&pp=ygUTZGVzdGlueSAyIGFya25pZ2h0c9IHCQnUCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

[abstract mauve]

stronghold protocol jail next 🙏

[lofty vale]

Anyways imagine the confusion if we get Endfield M3 in 7th Anniversary

[pine plover]

that's damazti

[frozen dawn]

theres no redeeming to that class tho

[left tulip]

Yooooo

[abstract mauve]

oh wtf why they do them dirty like that 😭

[limber pecan]

its only been cooking for 3 years!

[left tulip]

We need a 6 star mercenary yall

[pine plover]

make new subclass based on it and croc gladiator
trait: reduce damage taken except from enemies they are blocking

[lofty vale]

Low key I think they should just start making 7 stars if they want to continue making units like Wang

[abstract mauve]

holy shit lessing class

[pine plover]

RA croc priestess

[frozen dawn]

lowkey that sounds interesting

[lofty vale]

Old 6 stars just straight up cannot compare anymore

[abstract mauve]

anything but making a strong dreadnought guard/duelist defender

[slender temple]

There's no redeeming Duelist tbh

[left tulip]

Nearlalt clearly

[pine plover]

or we can go back to kazimier and get platinum alter as corrosion sniper

[slate ridge]

Skadi is pretty strong for soccer

[frozen dawn]

still remember when i used to deploy silverash for s3 and then redeploy him after skill cause of the atrocius skill cycle

[pine plover]

platinum once consider entering kazimiers idol knight carrer instead of being normal knight

[limber pecan]

bring back flying enemy units -_- make them hard as fuck so our ground units cant touch them and our ranged units will be focused on them making the split between ground and air stronger.

[lofty vale]

It’s still the best way to use him

[nimble kite]

Just ZuoLe/Degen her sorry croc ass.

[pine plover]

we have flying medic now with taraxacum

[frozen dawn]

when your goat is washed but you cant deny it

[pine plover]

new medic subclass after century

[slender temple]

Wait is that real, flying medic?

[frozen dawn]

fuck no kal2 is gonna be that wont she?

[nimble kite]

Yes, Medic with Take-Off (why that shit exists we don't know lmao)

[abstract mauve]

medic subclass based on take-off mechanic yes

[slender temple]

Lmao just make every freaking class with take off atp

[abstract mauve]

that seems to be the plan

[pine plover]

subclass watchman (not like dr. manhattan watchman)

[frozen dawn]

hg on their way to completely disregard that mechanic to create a busted ass 6* medic

[ebon torrent]

There's not really anyone worth me picking up here, is there?

[lofty vale]

Anyways kinda neat
Big 3 year 1
Silverash Exusiai Eyja
2026
Silverash2 Exusiai2 Eyjaberry

[frozen dawn]

yeah

[pine plover]

they have seemingly wide range, but base stats worse than therapist

[slender temple]

Was Exu even considered as big 3, I thought it was Saria

[abstract mauve]

worse base stats than therpaists literally means nothing for medics

[pine plover]

he also gives block +1 to flying allies, allowing leizi2 to block

[lofty vale]

Exu was big 3 at the start yes
Everyone used her to destroy Frostnova and Saria just wasn’t very needed

[pine plover]

well, for offskill healing it's less hps

[limber pecan]

i remember being told to reroll for exusiai back in the day

[frozen dawn]

why would anyone even use them

[pine plover]

take off on skill

[frozen dawn]

so they wont heal when not flying?

[unreal fable]

is it worth downgrading workship from lv3, then level droms to lv3, then downgrade then upgrade workshop?

[wraith shoal]

cant downgrade workshop

[slender temple]

You cannot downgrade workshop unfortunately,and also the rest of the right side of the base

[pine plover]

it means they wont waste their heal on themselves and can focus on healing allies because most enemies wont target them

[dry basin]

Does pramalter S2 not stop flying enemies from entering blue box?

[nimble kite]

You cannot downgrade those by any means.

[nimble kite]

Only Ground and the one who can be blocked.
Unblocked, MultiBlock (if insufficient) and Aerial will breach through easily.

[glad tide]

Who's a good pick if I decide to get the selector? (skipping Silverash)
Just returned to the game after a year+

[pine plover]

mon3tr, ascalon, maybe logos

[dense wasp]

Not ulpi?

[limber pecan]

ascalon, mon3tr, logos, ines, kinda depends on who you got

[dry basin]

Ahhh alright, thanks, wondered why flying enemies keep leaking even after blue box got frozen

[pine plover]

because the ice isnt flying

[lofty vale]

Here’s a flashback to 6 years ago

[abstract mauve]

she coulda made it taller

[pine plover]

you can only block flying enemies using flying units

[abstract mauve]

tragodia s3

[slender temple]

Just place Pram2 near the blue box so she take care of drones by herself

[woven crown]

Is there a way to know my pull history?

[dry basin]

I didnt leak drones, it was those jetpacks guys from lonetrail event, but thanks for the advice anyway

[glad tide]

Hmm, thinking of getting Ines

[pine plover]

the cage is generated at ground location tho

[abstract mauve]

ye but it can block flying

[limber pecan]

id only do that if you have the modern dmg and support ready first

[lofty vale]

I think Exusiai and Silverash were my very first 2 6 stars
And then I bought Surtr for 180 certs from the shop
That was so dam long ago

[bold elm]

She worth buying?

[unreal fable]

am i losing much with texas? i have mytle and sash alter

[frozen dawn]

no

[slender temple]

There's like 5 different ladies in the pic but I take it you mean Reed, so nope

[nimble kite]

Some free levels for Factories.

[bold elm]

Ye reed

[limber pecan]

no, i did a few months ago and she has collected dust (i already have ling so i dont need her)

[bold elm]

I like her design

[pine plover]

also the cage has 0 block, so it's not even the basic blocking mechanic

[abstract mauve]

cage known broken

[pine plover]

it's bind with extra step

[nimble kite]

She's decent if you lack any good Caster.

[glad tide]

I see
I'll have to watch some vids on the other operators then
Lots of catching up to do

[bold elm]

Uh

[slender temple]

Yeah you don't need Reed

[nimble kite]

Value is lower, but she can counter Reflect enemies, which is slugs from Ep16 for example.

[abstract mauve]

you have the 3 current best casters soooo

[limber pecan]

Ling is a d1 goat lowkey just the best unit ever. ong solos (tru)

[slender temple]

Who's the third one

[abstract mauve]

pram2 logos and by process of elimination lapp2

[lofty vale]

Ceobe clearly

[slate ridge]

Its block count is based on how many enemies are on the tile

[limber pecan]

gotta be gg

[bold elm]

Nah uh nymph

[abstract mauve]

there's better arts damage dealers outside casters class anyway

[pine plover]

nah, prts stated that it ignore its own block count and enemies block size

[slate ridge]

But statistically it shows

[pseudo jungle]

hullo, just want more opinions

i have silverash and pram alter at p6, and i have 200 tokens to spark

nearl alter for sa2 shenanigans
or skalter for afk & pramalter ice box shenanigans

which one should i spark

[silent fox]

Im 30 rolls off from 200 on the banner. Are rosmontis or W worth it? (i have the rest in the 200 tokens range)

[pine plover]

it shows 0

[slate ridge]

?

[abstract mauve]

how broken

[pseudo jungle]

if you play IS frequently, rosmontis is your best pick

W is off-meta, but she's a very fun operator to use for afk content with s2 if you'd like to

unless you're someone who can afford to shed a few more pulls for characters that won't largely help you with content, no

[oak skiff]

avanlanche control system, what is behind

[slate ridge]

Its 0 base and adds up depending on enemy count on said tile

[neat acorn]

Do i need the unsealed case to do ed3 is6?

[abstract mauve]

is that the one you get from the doubts node?

[neat acorn]

I think its from the trade nodes

[abstract mauve]

trade is ed4

[pine plover]

no, it's used for ed4 to get inkless scroll

[modest crater]

am i playing prama wrong or she feels rlly slow in the beginning? she only has first promotion

[neat acorn]

Any op is slow at e1

[pine plover]

consider skill level too

[modest crater]

ok so she gets better overtime

[abstract mauve]

she's already really good at e1 btw

[neat acorn]

Ye she's best afk caster

[pine plover]

i remember there is this guy who have operator maxed but skill level is still at 1

[neat acorn]

Ye you get s2 at e1

[modest crater]

i kinda find myself placing her and almost finishinf atages before she gets to use her skill

[abstract mauve]

yeah. he's saying she's slow tho and that kinda doesnt change that much when e2'd

[slender temple]

Use her with SA2 S3 to instantly deploy her right after

[neat acorn]

Her charge up is slow but she's good

[modest crater]

whats that

[pine plover]

well, s2 SP cost isnt small after all it's infinite duration skill

[severe crypt]

Ok but assuming e2 s2m3, 41-45 sec isn’t that much

[neat acorn]

Silverash alter

[abstract mauve]

you're supposed to deploy her as early as you can

[pine plover]

e1 level 1 which probably also at sl1

[left tulip]

If you don’t need her that’s good trust me when you will she will make a difference

[modest crater]

ok got it

[neat acorn]

S3 is faster to use but it's not afk

[left tulip]

Also her ice tiles are still pretty strong when she’s deployed early

They can handle trash

[pine plover]

snowstorm need to build early otherwise it wont be large

[severe crypt]

65 sec is slow but most gen content stages do last way longer

[neat acorn]

So how do i do ed3 is6¿

[modest crater]

yeah true, her range's kinda the problem 4 me, it feels like shes very niche and locked to certain maps

[pine plover]

he also deployed her late

[severe crypt]

32 tiles of effective control is low

[abstract mauve]

have 5 candleguests. then you go to this special doubts node and choose first option. you get negative relic. then go to pathfinder and do a special combat there then you have unlocked ed3

[slender temple]

She's, infact, the opposite of the word niche

[neat acorn]

Thanks

[severe crypt]

She is one of the best daily drivers in ak rn

[frigid stream]

man you really have not gotten to use her

[modest crater]

yeah should be 100, jokes aside idk if it's gonna get better upgrading her but in certain maps she feels unusable?? idk

[neat acorn]

Afknights is real

[pine plover]

beware of black marble balls

[severe crypt]

Define unusable

[charred radish]

is getting reed from shop still worth if you have logos and lappy

[modest crater]

makes sense sincs i started playing yesterday ahaha

[steel plinth]

Who should I borrow for is-6

[abstract mauve]

reed kinda fell off and no one talks about her now
so no

[slender temple]

I haven't been satisfied with using new ops for a time, but Pram2 really amazed me with how enjoyable afk slop is

[modest crater]

no effective place to use her, im better off using another operator that can reach larger areas, u get what i mean?

[formal shadow]

exu2 hoshi2 tragodia etc.

[neat acorn]

Raidian

[pine plover]

she can cover half of the map, if you actually read what she does

[formal shadow]

you're going to contort yourself 10 ways if you heard about leizi2

[neat acorn]

She does dot out of her range

[pine plover]

bold of me expecting en players to read

[slender temple]

Defines "larger area" when she does something like this

[formal shadow]

bigger

[bold elm]

Guys is wisadel worth spending $30? And after that I'll have no more pulls

[modest crater]

just explain instead of saying stuff lmao

[left tulip]

I think even 2 ops is enough for this one

[modest crater]

yeah i was speaking abt her atks, not the dot

[pine plover]

what 30$, selector is only for non limited

[left tulip]

Her and lapp2

[robust thistle]

The dots still deal damage ykmow

[bold elm]

No $30 to buy pulls

[left tulip]

Or probably a bunch of other ppl but I used lapp2 for simping

[slender temple]

The dots take care of the most non-elite stuffs

[severe crypt]

Like to get to 300 pulls

[bold elm]

And I'll have 300 token thingy

[left tulip]

She kills the trees early as well

[jovial urchin]

Just deploy pram as soon as possible and you will be fine. Maybe help her during her warm up but for the most part you're fine

[bold elm]

Yeah

[pine plover]

we are getting wisadel sidegrade who can nuke everything on the map while facing the edge wall

[modest crater]

ok mine is probably the issue i guess, i'll keep using her. ty all for explaing

[robust thistle]

Also, please adjust yout placement based on each operator's range

[bold elm]

Who's that?

[severe crypt]

Wang

[robust thistle]

I can also say wissdel is unusable on certai maps if I face her against the wall

[pine plover]

chongyue homeless younger brother

[neat acorn]

No

[bold elm]

Hmm imma save for him then

[radiant ether]

How much six star operator in the game right now?

[modest crater]

yeah, tbh i probably fcked my perception by borrowing wisadel lmao

[neat acorn]

Wangandel

[shadow bay]

how far are u to get wisadel?

[robust thistle]

Phalanxes are supposed to be deployed more aggresively because she has radial range

[bold elm]

I have 70 pulls rn, and if I get 30 more I'll have enough for wisadel

[neat acorn]

Just farm them

[severe crypt]

Wait you at 200 pulls done? I’d personally save

[shadow bay]

seems like ur still far to spark her

i would stop tbh... but u do u

[bold elm]

Oh ok

[pine plover]

shouldnt the banner last until next weekly reset?