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ancient lintel
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Wait then wtf was the supernova thing?

glossy schooner
robust thistle
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black/white color scheme doesnt mean maid FiaSigh

winter crystal
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That’s not a maid outfit Bnuuy

buoyant sigil
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Supernova is not maid SkadiDaijoubu

ancient lintel
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Ye that lol, it look like a maid outfit to me

winter crystal
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wtf kind of maids have you seen???

coarse notch
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what kind of maids have you been hiring

buoyant sigil
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Actually I like it let’s call afk autoslop trust

robust thistle
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I'll put a white top and black trousers and I'll look like a maid to you

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
left tulip
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Nah I get u I would love to have her as a maid too

glossy schooner
wraith sentinel
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What did I even walk into...

ancient lintel
left tulip
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She got that smile too I get u I get u

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
wraith sentinel
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Damn.

robust thistle
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any CN peeps know if passenger skin is rerunning

winter crystal
buoyant sigil
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Yall we need a metamorphosis skin for her so she becomes an actual cockroach

left tulip
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It’s the sentiment to become wisadel’s maid maybe that could be the reason too

hidden nacelle
robust thistle
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her p2w skin is better anyways

ancient lintel
hidden nacelle
robust thistle
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huh it doesnt say that on hermitz

hidden nacelle
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yes it does scroll more down

wraith sentinel
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At the very bottom.

reef zinc
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Should I replace mountian with la pluma?

pale tapir
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why can’t you use both

proven kelp
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Kill the furry

buoyant sigil
glossy schooner
hidden nacelle
buoyant sigil
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I’d say rafaela is better than anthony depending on the situation

proven kelp
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The only thing tonny the tiger is good at is being 6ft under

buoyant sigil
robust thistle
wraith sentinel
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Uh, not sure why you'd need either at this point.

pale tapir
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texas hiding for her life

winter crystal
# reef zinc

Ditch your third medic ptilo before anything else 💀

omg Texas

glossy schooner
shadow bay
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nope Texas is fine as is PodencoSip

reef zinc
buoyant sigil
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Do you need to hold the lane if you’re using tragodia exu2 and lemuen at once

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
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Sakiko is already fine on her own if you ever need it honestly
Not to mention like, sash

pale tapir
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pls mod2 ur sakichan

glossy schooner
# reef zinc Tru

Also as Sanc said, I’m pretty sure you can just abuse Trago cat to stall

inland osprey
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so im thinkin of getting honeyberry since the more chapter i went through my medic just wouldnt cut it for some of the elemental stuff, is it worth it ?

shadow bay
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do not

formal shadow
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just borrow one if there's a need

buoyant sigil
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… also, what medic is it?

glossy schooner
pale tapir
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no unless u would ask her on a date
u can just outheal elemental dmg

glossy schooner
shadow bay
inland osprey
robust thistle
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inb4 its for SN

shadow bay
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harryberry

inland osprey
glossy schooner
# robust thistle inb4 its for SN

I mean, I had and put a little bit of levels into Mulberry for when I was Very much so struggling on Stulti, but that’s just because I don’t use borrowing, so yeah

buoyant sigil
robust thistle
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buying honeyberry is kinda fine if youre like, bad at the game or are just lazy
but its 600 red certs

shadow bay
glossy schooner
shadow bay
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although he isnt obtainable atm, but should be soon...

inland osprey
robust thistle
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they add more ops

buoyant sigil
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Honeyberry would be… ok… for lower cost, but she really isn’t worth 600 certs. That is a whole lot of sanity on certs you could have used on module blocks or chip glue

pale tapir
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are hadiya and akkord red cert ops? I forgor

glossy schooner
inland osprey
robust thistle
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no

shadow bay
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u need 29 runs for a 600 cert op

and each run eat 30 sanity SoraWow

glossy schooner
inland osprey
left tulip
pale tapir
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AP-5 supply stage

shadow bay
buoyant sigil
robust thistle
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you dont know you can farm red certs yet you want to throw 600 in the bin

glossy schooner
glossy schooner
shadow bay
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ig i can do a tpose for having p6 Honeyberry here??? KroosEvil

inland osprey
robust thistle
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chip catalysts and mod blocks are waiting for you

glossy schooner
inland osprey
inland osprey
robust thistle
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those are the important stuff

glossy schooner
thorny edge
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those are the most important stuff dawg

buoyant sigil
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I’ve seen people shill diamante for base but honestly just don’t do it if you ever see people saying this

robust thistle
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mod blocks are like the only timegated resource in the game

shadow bay
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but to shorten the story

honey is not that worth
but up to you if rly want that comfort for elem problems

inland osprey
thorny edge
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elem problems dont exist. when they do exist, just borrow eyja

buoyant sigil
shadow bay
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see even the recently peep say that phrase PodencoSip

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
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(She is iirc?)

thorny edge
formal shadow
shadow bay
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gacha for paprika/kafka KroosEvil

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
thorny edge
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most people avoid borrowing ops like its some sort of personal insult to their intelligence to suggest borrowing an operator.
this is so crazy to put into context because story stages arent hard enough to prove anything in the first place

formal shadow
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raise chestnut cuz he cheap!

shadow bay
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i wouldnt ponder that much on personal opinions unless they preach it as a fact

raven ermine
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Well especially if said restriction is making you raise elem medics
To solve a non issue

buoyant sigil
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Even SN is just lowk clearable without it. Nethersea Brand problems? Uhh, stack healers in one operator to block the mark and put another laneholder behind so that they block when the former is impaired
It’s… not that hard, fortunately

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
inland osprey
thorny edge
inland osprey
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i guess i rather borrow dmg ops than a medic tbf

buoyant sigil
glossy schooner
thorny edge
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heck you can try borrowing a different wandering medic. still beats raising an op thats practically useless for the five stages in the game that wants wandering medics

buoyant sigil
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lmao yea

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I only borrow when I wanna clear easy things quick. Honestly, I really don’t like spending 20 more minutes to complete a stage that takes a whopping 10 braincells ngl

thorny edge
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refusing borrowing for annoying story stages is like a chef refusing to use a rice cooker.

glossy schooner
severe crypt
thorny edge
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rice cookers are like the 4th best kitchen item

glossy schooner
buoyant sigil
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Satisfying to find a solve by myself ExuHeart I wanna get high from creating the most unoptimized shit ever with my units to win

thorny edge
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the first is a wok, second is a cleaver and third is a fridge

robust thistle
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me beating H7-4 by spamming W S3 + sham s2 + suzu S3

nimble kite
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Mind personal favorite is SniperMedic -1 Hope with Wisadel start.

robust thistle
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also whats the hype on blooming flower squad anyways

thorny edge
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doesnt it give u that one flower tongbao

glossy schooner
robust thistle
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looks kinda mid

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the node reroll tongbao?

silent pendant
thorny edge
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he had to sleep on it

glossy schooner
nimble kite
rocky pilot
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Let me guess sleeping

buoyant sigil
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is 😭

thorny edge
glossy schooner
robust frigate
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yall which mastery for Stainless?

buoyant sigil
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14hrs is5 ed5 run screenshot

raven ermine
thorny edge
robust thistle
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is not doing masteries on stainless an option

silent pendant
robust frigate
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idc if he's not good, I just want to know what people would mastery on him

glossy schooner
nimble kite
proven kelp
thorny edge
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if ur using him for damage, why?
if its for buffing attack then its s1
if its for his sp its s2
like there isnt a single answer if we dont know what u wanna do with him

silent pendant
static glade
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Am I reading this right, you have you download it manually again, that means you have to delete the app right ExuHyperStare

robust thistle
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no?

thorny edge
pale tapir
raven ermine
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Or have fun figuring what you want to use the operator for ?
Where's the fun in getting handheld all the way

glossy schooner
silent pendant
buoyant sigil
limpid yarrow
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i think for stainless the only mastery that really does anything is s1
s3 and s2 are never used for their active affects

thorny edge
nimble kite
limpid yarrow
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just owning him is enough to unlock him in stronghold protocol tho

raven ermine
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S3 masteries are garbo

proven kelp
silent pendant
limpid yarrow
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which is the important part
everyone knows stronghold protocol is real viability(which doesn't need investment)

thorny edge
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the funky shit is just having a target to attack bro. that shit works at sl1

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which is why we ask, is not giving him masteries an option?

glossy schooner
limpid yarrow
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probably
his s3 masteries are improving his own attack or wtv instead of the turrets

robust thistle
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huh stainless s3 masteries doesnt increase his turret dps?

slate ridge
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it does by +40% atk

robust thistle
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oh it does

thorny edge
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forbidden wisadel s2 stainless tech shush

buoyant sigil
robust thistle
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isnt the reason for getting modY the 105% atk_scale?

pale tapir
robust frigate
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I already have a Meta squad so yall don't have to worry about that if it's the case

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but aight, thanks for the info

thorny edge
robust thistle
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schwarz 2.0 anyways

buoyant sigil
slate ridge
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its more like
you use what you want
idk what the original question was but if its Stainless then you mastery what you will use
if you can do it with SL7 and want to save mats then SL7 it is
i did S1M3 S2M2 S3L7 because i have no need for S3 dps and S2M3 is too much mats use for little increase

rocky pilot
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Honestly is it overkill putting wang on nasti platform

buoyant sigil
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Thankfully I haven’t gotten any of the two yet so who knows

shadow bay
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indeed

we should use nasti instead to improve zima alt

rocky pilot
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Need nasti mod to be able to put any ops on platform

buoyant sigil
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Nasti tile to place hool DocSmile

raven ermine
robust thistle
pine plover
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just make a better nasti who instead place rune on any tiles, like those rune in sniper/caster chip stage

buoyant sigil
robust thistle
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yeah its a wrong reply

rocky pilot
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Ah yes the good old wrong reply again I wonder who should that be answering to definitely not me

pine plover
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i thought you gonna rebuke with "there is no such thing as wrong reply"

buoyant sigil
pine plover
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just get jet black shoes relic from IS

rocky pilot
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Actually put ulpipi on the tile so he can still have the increased atk when going to another spot with s3
Genius

slate ridge
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Zima2 is already counted as ranged atm no
or did they fix her ReedBean

robust thistle
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huh?

robust thistle
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?????

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instructor hidden subclass

tiny chasm
robust thistle
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something something pallas best guard dps skill

thorny edge
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hey i remember instructors realmad

buoyant sigil
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bryophita best guard RedOmegaLul

tiny chasm
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Zero love from hypergryph subclass

thorny edge
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ok but do instructors deserve love

shadow bay
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only bryo can die

buoyant sigil
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I swear give them like 2 tiles more range PLEASE

slate ridge
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oh nvm im dumb its preset Zima2 not self placed so its only for that particular Zima2 SkadiDaijoubu

odd sky
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pallas deserves love

thorny edge
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make their default range ines s2 range

robust thistle
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preset? the preset stage is zima on a ranged tile?

kind igloo
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is mostima talent sp active when she is deployed or put in the party?

tiny chasm
buoyant sigil
slate ridge
robust thistle
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oh that makes sense

buoyant sigil
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Instructor deal more damage when enemy not blocked by self except 1. Blocking is sorta redundant atp and 2. what the hell is that abysmal range SkadiDaijoubu you will not hit anything with that

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Class idea pretty cool but that is 2 tiles ahead range and oh my god you aint hitting anything wellSkadiDaijoubu

raven ermine
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The entire point of the archetype is using a blocker and putting them behind
2 tile range is enough for that
Now, i don't think we have to explain why the idea is flawed in the first place

glossy schooner
real sphinx
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do sleeping enemies still block the witchcraft bomb

raven ermine
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Shouldn't, unless they hard coded it

robust thistle
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idt enemies block the cargo in the first place, but they can attack the cargo and it makes the cargo stop

thorny edge
robust thistle
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unless youre talking about that one specific enemy

real sphinx
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yeah the big guy

buoyant sigil
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Oh, by the way. So for pozy the pros of each of the mods are:

ModX:

  • Talent is now 8 tiles around pozy instead of 4
  • Higher def decrease from typewriter
  • Faster redeploy

ModY:

  • Ignore phys dodge
  • atk_scale to 105% or some
  • More typewriter atk

Been told modX is better, though roadless says modY’s the choice. Opinions on the issue? Leaning towards modX

robust thistle
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that first part on modX is news to me

buoyant sigil
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It does that, yeah. If I remember correctly

raven ermine
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ngl leaning toward mody too

proven kelp
# buoyant sigil If I remember correctly Roadless says ModY, Socks said ModX Reasons include fast...

I'm pretty sure Y still deals more dmg, an increase in Atk Scale should still be stronger than a mere Def reduction unless it's an ridiculous amount of Def, especially with Typewriter itself getting a Atk increase

And even then, you are both already in the wrong mindset
You're assuming Pozy herself is worth getting Mod3 to actually get that Def Reduc increase, but Pozy is not worth investing that much resources, she's no longer top meta to warrant that much resources that you are better off just saving the blocks for better ops

At Mod Lvl1, Y will deal more simply because it has Atk Scale ( and higher Atk stats ), while X only has rdp

Redeployment reduction isn't really that relevant tbh
X mostly synergizes with s2 with it's spammable skill, but not with s3

This isn't like Ray where her other module allows her to actually sync with her summon with each s3, Pozy by default can already sync with her typewriter with each s3, there's little reason to reduc it's redeployment

Deploying it early due to having a shorter rdp risk you not having a Typewriter during s3, and if you're saving typewriter for s3 then you defeat the point of having a reduc rdp

Not to mention Typewriter is mediocre without Pozy, no point deploying it early if it only has it's base stats

The Dodge is whatever, it's a bonus.

buoyant sigil
fathom nest
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At lv1 y is going to do more
x does more with levels after 1k def

raven ermine
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Assuming you can put typewriter near pozy ? Because that's a requirement that can be hard to fulfill depending on the map

fathom nest
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Being a Pozy fan I would assume putting in higher investment

slim tusk
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fix it with nasti ril

proven kelp
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Yee, needing to be adjacent to Pozy is annoying most of the time so she's not really getting that full def reduction either way

Being in the 8 tiles doesn't help when typewriter is still a narrow range

robust thistle
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being adjacent to pozy is weird because its really just in front or behind her, anywhere else and youre teetering with weird splitboxing stuff

raven ermine
robust thistle
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I'd rather just put the typewriter somewhere else

nimble kite
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Just use Schwarz, she isn't relaying on Typewriter <runs>

raven ermine
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That was my reasoning for mody too
Less reliant on optimal performance, and more flexible, but i can see both ChenShrug

proven kelp
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X loses by default since it eats more modules for cost to performance ratio SoraWow

fathom nest
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Ideally you keep the typewriter close to her for talent anyway but eh

rocky pilot
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I am gonna get nasti someday because I like her but speaking does her mod even increase much

limpid yarrow
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pretty good mod

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mod3 adds a new chaining effect which might be needed for some gimmick

rocky pilot
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Qhar
Am I missing something I don’t see anything in wiki

fathom nest
robust thistle
fathom nest
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The cost decrease is -3 dp

rocky pilot
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Oh there
Guh

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Yup need to change these glasses to 200 degrees my eyesight is getting worse

severe crypt
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That’s not how glasses work?

limpid yarrow
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bad glasses make things much worse 💀

livid crest
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Maintenance gonna be 4 hours long?

austere radish
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Is Mr. Wang from Arknights now, the new Lebron James of the game

robust thistle
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?

vale finch
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Is it worth getting mod1 for tequila and windscoot?

robust thistle
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do you actually use them or are they just there as poster boys

thorny edge
vale finch
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Ya I do use them

robust thistle
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feel free to mod them then

limpid yarrow
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if you use them liberator mod1 is almost always good

proven kelp
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My condolences

vale finch
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Okie 👌

robust thistle
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dw I use them too

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or was it the other way around PtiloThonk

buoyant sigil
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Is surtr fine at e2 30-40

robust thistle
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define 'fine'

buoyant sigil
limpid yarrow
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🐛🐛🐛

glossy schooner
robust thistle
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define 'pretty well'

limpid yarrow
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mostly old ye
consider e2 60 maybe

buoyant sigil
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Does decent damage for her helidrop ig, considering she’s old

robust thistle
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then yes shes 'fine'

buoyant sigil
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She’s e2 1 rn. Not too bad but honestly not that good either

robust thistle
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levels dont really do much

void ivy
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Surtr's S3 gains a lot from the masteries. But do check if you don't have better operators to invest on yeah

buoyant sigil
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I was still told to get more levels on her a few days ago I guess ><

rocky pilot
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Wait a minute when do the 2x pull and 10x pull appear in shop
A operator debut banner or?

robust thistle
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yes because the first 40-50 levels are cheap

reef sparrow
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are there any ops that has 2 mods that buff the same talent?

robust thistle
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isnt that fart

abstract mauve
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silence alter

void ivy
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And ascalon

severe crypt
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Fartooth mention SoraWow

abstract mauve
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there's quite a few units that have that ye

void ivy
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Thorns

abstract mauve
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thorns doesnt count cuz delta mod

void ivy
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Fair enough

forest parcel
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Can sakiko deal enough damage at e2 60 with module unlocked and ability at level7? I was wondering if I should make her stronger but I’m low on resources and wondering if I should farm for them.

robust thistle
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enough damage for what

narrow ibex
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do I try to e2 mylnar first or m3 and mod my ulpi

reef sparrow
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e2 mly

forest parcel
robust thistle
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sure

narrow ibex
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btw what story chapter do you need to clear so that you can unlock all the crafting receipes

robust thistle
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13

narrow ibex
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ah alr

robust thistle
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hmm wait I think its 15?

rocky pilot
robust thistle
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because piss pyramid is 15

narrow ibex
rocky pilot
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Yeah is 15
Smooth pyramid looking ass

narrow ibex
#

bruuh

rocky pilot
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15 is pretty easy at least for me so ChenShrug

narrow ibex
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i mean like 13 should unlock almost all of them tho yea?

robust thistle
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I mean the new ops use newer mats

narrow ibex
glossy schooner
glossy schooner
# narrow ibex dam

Yeah, makes me feel pain as well, Hoshiter and Lemon masteries you must wait much longer

narrow ibex
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maybe lapland alter in the future

undone portal
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youre allowed to skip forward into ch15 after clearing ch3. thats where you unlock the refractor/enantiomer recipes. you dont need to wait that long if youre willing to do the first few ch15 maps out of order

lyric lagoon
narrow ibex
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which chapter is stormwatch btw

glossy schooner
undone portal
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stormwatch should be 9 iirc

narrow ibex
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kk

undone portal
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you can skip there after ch3 too

narrow ibex
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no I'm already at stormwatch

pseudo lotus
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Is IS worth doing for a new player? I’m around ch5 in story

robust thistle
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yes

rocky pilot
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Alright I’ll ask this again
During (some) operators debut banner do they have the 2x and 10x pull specifically for their own banner in shop

robust thistle
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some do

narrow ibex
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btw is there a image or excel sheet or something which tells what mats the future ops will need

robust thistle
wintry steppe
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is gladiia good as a hookmaster spec ReedBean

calm raptor
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Does mlynar need mod level 3?

robust thistle
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doesnt need it but its a lot of improvement

rocky pilot
undone portal
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limited banners give you a 10pull to use on the banner while its up, + 1 free pull every day
cert shop doesnt see changes

rocky pilot
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I might actually get nasti early if so instead of waiting

fathom nest
undone portal
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depends on the rest of your roster but very likely i would prioritize mlynar mod lv3 asap

robust thistle
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6 star hooker

glossy schooner
fathom nest
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Even then she's not really required. Ulpi with mod survives just fine alone or with a medic

undone portal
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-# use snowsant because shes cute SoraWow

robust thistle
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ironically gladiia might be more accessible than rope for some players

fathom nest
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The forbidden Cliff selection

glossy schooner
severe crypt
undone portal
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very true. you need to get lucky for rope. gladiia can be picked up week2 or 3 if youre doing the usual suggested sidestory unlock order

fathom nest
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If they're utilizing recruit like they should then Rope can also be obtained within that timeframe

gentle dove
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By the time they're able to E1 gladiia they're probably already getting a rope

rocky pilot
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Cliff is now permanently in my account because of the old login rewards

undone portal
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i didnt get sussurro until months in, things happen BreezeHappy

robust thistle
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in theory they should get rope within 2 weeks, but I went 2 months without spot when I started

fathom nest
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Shift is a 50/50 and super common

robust thistle
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I think its spot and perfumer

rocky pilot
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What is the average pulls for getting a single 6* again

fathom nest
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34.6

rocky pilot
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Huh I may actually get nasti without having to wait for her rerun next year

severe crypt
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Offrate Lee

glossy schooner
fathom nest
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The average takes far more than 50 pulls into the equation

glossy schooner
robust thistle
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keyword being 'average'

ivory terrace
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mode is 56
mean/median is around 35

glossy schooner
rocky pilot
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Nevermind

hidden wolf
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Sash2 is out tommorow?

rocky pilot
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Yes

fathom nest
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2 resets from now

ancient belfry
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who is this Op

robust thistle
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vulpis

urban sleet
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Vulpisfoglia UtageSmug

glossy schooner
glossy schooner
grand wigeon
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Is the update in a couple of hours?

glossy schooner
fathom nest
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Check pins for your time zone

echo oasis
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Sash2 here yet?

fathom nest
echo oasis
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Myb

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Is the free top op thingy still available?

fathom nest
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It comes out with the event

ivory terrace
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that is after recruitment update

echo oasis
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Owhh

severe crypt
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Sadly no one is reading the username 🥀

slate ridge
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they didnt specify which 14th

fathom nest
nimble kite
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He didn't even read your nickname 🥀

fathom nest
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🥹

ivory terrace
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what 21d, banner is always 2 weeks long even if event is 3wks

vital kelp
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@urban sleet whens top op?

forest sorrel
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For the free "Top Operator" tag tomorrow, do i get it only once or can i refresh it until they came with other tags i like?

vital kelp
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once

hoary ruin
glossy schooner
nimble kite
urban sleet
vital kelp
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wtf thats so far away

severe crypt
ivory terrace
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will be exploited to death for free kaltsit if it stuck RedOmegaLul

polar viper
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is icebreakers just sometimes crashing the game upon finding a partner a constant on all methods or a google play games issue

fathom nest
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Google issue

forest sorrel
slate ridge
hoary ruin
fathom nest
hoary ruin
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EN can't read after all.

severe crypt
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Always has been

fathom nest
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More like they don't even try to refresh before asking

formal shadow
ivory terrace
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since recruitment update force refreshes tags tho DoroAK

rose mist
#

Kal will be added to recruitment right

split sphinx
#

did I miss the free Top Op tag LappDumb

hoary ruin
#

I heard AsteAlt has more consistent slow application but weaker fragile.

severe crypt
#

Oh for FUCKS SAKE

urban sleet
glossy schooner
hoary ruin
#

Pretty comparable to Suzu, sans healing I think.

#

I know there's a guard who likes slows, AsteAlt might be another option for them.

split sphinx
#

does icebreaker give any pulls

hoary ruin
vital kelp
#

playing icebreaker will give u 10 free pulls when u spend 30 dollar to get aak BlitzSmile

coarse tide
#

Icebreaker bad mode

robust thistle
#

I dont think you can compare 16% fragile and 46% and say its comparable

hoary ruin
split sphinx
#

alr SkadiDaijoubu in a bit of a dry spell rn HellaKek just trying to get all pulls while half-inactive

urban sleet
robust thistle
#

the consistent slow is more of a *terms and conditions apply

cursive maple
#

so she is basically mid when it comes to welfare

formal shadow
#

just a wittle wit weaker

glossy schooner
sinful sleet
#

on the off chance that I don't manage to roll sashalt within my first 150 rolls

should i keep pulling until I get him/reach 300 (which would be devastating), or pull the plug and just begin saving for wang/ch'en

abstract mauve
#

i think you give off saturn energy or whatever the astrology gals say

cursive maple
glossy schooner
ancient lotus
#

I would pull for both

abstract mauve
fathom nest
#

There's nothing strong in between

deep sandal
#

is the ignite from chapter 8 boss considered negative effect by lumen's skill?

opaque remnant
surreal wing
#

wasnt there a event where it gurantees a 5star in recruit? what happened to the 2nd part of it

urban sleet
#

If you are a casual you can get pram2 and dip

fathom nest
#

Check pins

glossy schooner
hidden wolf
#

How many pulls on avg do i need to get both sash and pramantix

hoary ruin
urban sleet
#

You can also chexk my nickname

deep sandal
sinful sleet
#

please RNG gods bless me with sashalt and pramalt before I have to start whaling

and wisadel if they're inclined

surreal wing
#

oh okay i thought i missed 2nd part cause i dont see it anywhere, thanks

fathom nest
hidden wolf
#

Is chen3 good

formal shadow
#

yes

coarse notch
sinful sleet
glossy schooner
surreal wing
#

no haruka?

hidden wolf
hoary ruin
fathom nest
urban sleet
glossy schooner
deep sandal
coarse notch
cursive maple
#

yeah trag is in standard pool

surreal wing
#

i mean the selector

glossy schooner
ancient lotus
fathom nest
hoary ruin
surreal wing
#

oof

#

i mainly need trag, got all the good old ops

coarse notch
#

i tanked dbs with silence + sussuro + spot anyways, dbs constantly reapplies the burn with every hit so idk how you're expecting to cleanse it
the only time its a threat is when its on your ranged units

vital kelp
#

chat would u recommend building orchid when they have e2 proviso

cursive maple
#

you can just borrow haruka

fathom nest
humble nova
cursive maple
#

she can solo 6 star the map with a buncha defenders

raw wigeon
#

why even build orchid anyway, she doesn't need level

cursive maple
#

i draft her in is4 smile

urban sleet
#

200 Orundum

vital kelp
fathom nest
#

When do you ever need a slower?

quick jolt
robust thistle
#

those 3 chapter 2 stage or something

humble nova
fathom nest
quick jolt
humble nova
vernal drift
stray gust
#

is there even a web event? Bnuuy

robust thistle
spring aspen
#

just started and i got mountain from the newbie banner, should i reroll?

fathom nest
#

Reroll for Pram2

humble nova
quick jolt
robust thistle
#

do they gate the free 10pull behinf 1-10 again

spring aspen
#

so just wait till 14th for now?

humble nova
robust thistle
#

if you want

fathom nest
#

Play a bit and get comfortable with the game, try it out

humble nova
#

Yeah try the game out then reroll

spring aspen
#

alrighty then thanks

humble nova
#

Dont get too excited using mountain and whatnot tho, cuz they fall off shortly later

cursive maple
#

i think thats what rose said

humble nova
#

Oh okay, well I shall repeat it to signify it

robust thistle
#

I dont think thats what that word means

humble nova
#

Ur right it just sounded right

ancient lotus
#

Pram2 gotta be one of the best ops to reroll for

humble nova
#

Nah exu2 banner was the best reroll banner I think

#

Exu2, lemuen, chance for wisadel 🙌

quick jolt
#

"one of"

humble nova
urban sleet
#

Its adepti SkadiDaijoubu

quick jolt
#

this is true

raven ermine
#

Chance for wisadel uh
We're coping hard right now
Also, guess what is in the offrate pool of pram2 banner

humble nova
lyric lagoon
#

yappin to yap atp

vital kelp
#

guys should i reroll for wisadel during pram2 event?

cursive maple
#

no

quick jolt
#

guys should i wisadel for reroll during event pram2?

hoary ruin
urban sleet
pale tapir
#

chance for waltuh is definitely cope
I pulled 320 times on the sister banner and got 0 offrate limiteds shrug

raven ermine
vital kelp
raven ermine
#

ExeNaruhodo
TW and EN is basically the same atp, might as well

urban sleet
#

Arwnr you a newbie? You didnt grind Originite ?

lyric lagoon
#

you get 24 (+10~) free pulls just from logging in, what is this math 💔

tidal vale
#

not really new got hoshialter i guess

urban sleet
#

LappDumb would you count for saintess event

floral light
#

you had like no e2 operators
pretty sure you can still clear story stages for op

tidal vale
#

indeed

vernal drift
rain pulsar
#

Should I e2 Myrtle or keep her e1

lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

E1 lvl 1 sl7

ancient belfry
#

Ops alter are not the same as the original ops right (not the same person)? or it's a case by case basis?

nimble kite
vernal drift
#

Is their any reason to e2?

raven ermine
nimble kite
lyric lagoon
#

there’s like one exception and that’s only cause of fucky eldritch horror brainwash

pale tapir
vernal drift
#

Yeah that makes sense

raw wigeon
#

No? Basically all of them are the same as og, only exception might be skadi

ancient belfry
raven ermine
urban sleet
#

I heard you threw your built account just for a new accoumt with trag ExeNaruhodo

lyric lagoon
vital kelp
#

isnt trag not quite the same as phantom

raven ermine
vernal drift
hoary ruin
raven ermine
#

Tragodia is phantom
Tragodia used to be the mastermind of the phantom troupe, phantom killed them, and took the title basically

cursive maple
#

yep thanks for spoiler

urban sleet
#

Rare lore reader damn SoraWow

humble nova
#

Use the “ || “ when saying spoilers

ancient belfry
lyric lagoon
#

honestly on you for entering one of the few channels without spoiler rule

raven ermine
#

Event already happened, can't catter to everyone

cursive maple
#

no need to open your mouth then

raven ermine
#

They asked, don't lurk idk

ancient belfry
raven ermine
tidal vale
hollow comet
#

does freeze last for certain duration or its different for each enemies

hoary ruin
#

I'm pretty sure that's just Ines's E2 art isn't it?

cursive maple
copper charm
#

When is cold daddy SA coming chat?

lyric lagoon
ancient belfry
#

are sarkaz four limbed creatures or it varies? the art behind looks like a combination of dog and a deer

humble nova
urban sleet
hollow comet
coarse notch
ancient belfry
cursive maple
#

idk, wiki should have it

hollow comet
hoary ruin
coarse notch
#

ines isnt a sarkaz
and once again, wrong channel

severe crypt
copper charm
#

Is he a must-pull for new players? I have 60k orundums saved up

vernal drift
#

What exactly is good about the 2 units that are gonna come out on Tuesday?

coarse notch
#

no such thing as a must pull but you should go until you either get both or you dont have enough to reasonably reach the next pity

gloomy fossil
#

With the 6* selector that you buy from the shop at every anniversary, can you pick any 6 star including limiteds?

urban sleet
hoary ruin
coarse notch
hoary ruin
#

SA2's banner is pretty much the only banner worth pulling on until the Sui banner about 3 months later. Both rate-ups are strong, with Pram2 being a comfy caster with big AoE arts damage.

urban sleet
#

-# unless you give in to #arknights ted talks for nasti

vernal drift
#

Ah i see thank you but i do have a question what classifies you as a casual? I'm wondering as i'm not sure if i should be going after SA2

gloomy fossil
urban sleet
#

You dont go beyind gen content

hoary ruin
vernal drift
#

Oh alright is it ok if you give a example of something that isnt gen content?

ancient belfry
#

im planning to buy the 6 star selector, but I thought leizi will be available. Will be she added by 2027 or maybe december?

lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

Not ray and ascalon, they will be in cert shop soon

vernal drift
hoary ruin
lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

-# fun fact: dlc2 is6 will hqve a f5 map with our best friens feom ch 16: ||cocaine bear||

vernal drift
#

Ahh i see thank you

hoary ruin
lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

You should pull for pram2 regqrdless, and frankly there's enough time to save up for wang from scratch so get both

urban sleet
nimble kite
#

Just kite him to the right side of them map where enemy Patriot boys are located, ez.

urban sleet
#

No he's my friend he will kill ejemies for ke DocSmile

vernal drift
lyric lagoon
#

which enemy has more dementia, bear or hoshi2 event grandpa

urban sleet
vernal drift
#

Huh i guess thats pretty reasonable

lyric lagoon
#

you’ll also get 24 entirely free pulls during the event + 30~ more pulls from the event itself

urban sleet
#

Its also the fact that no one's worth oulling in between

opaque remnant
vernal drift
#

Hopefully i end up getting lucky on this banner so i don't gotta spend too much

vernal drift
lyric lagoon
timber finch
#

what is ethan's skill that is best to be maxed already?

urban sleet
#

S2 but newbie like you has othee thinfa to do

vernal drift
timber finch
fading whale
#

do i yolo or

urban sleet
#

Then yeah etgan

lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

Mosti also has a niche

timber finch
shadow bay
rocky pilot
#

60 pulls should be enough to get a single 6* right

hoary ruin
rocky pilot
#

Huh I might actually get nasti if luck isn’t too harsh on me

urban sleet
#

Hqve a lee

raw wigeon
proven kelp
#

I should ready my copy pasta for the free top op

hoary ruin
rocky pilot
#

I’ll just spend 60 and go on

urban sleet
wanton meadow
opaque remnant
shadow bay
hoary ruin
proven kelp
opaque remnant
#

Also since kalt’sit is coming to the pool we have another new option

lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

Ppl struggle reqding my nickname, what are pins gonna do

vernal drift
proven kelp
shadow bay
urban sleet
nimble kite
hoary ruin
rocky pilot
raven ermine
#

"Trip" on an icepick WarSmug

lyric lagoon
urban sleet
#

Ignore that

slim tusk
#

credibility lost

urban sleet
#

Yk I didnt specify if I meant the banner or event DocSmile

lyric lagoon
proven kelp
#

Oh, i didn't notice

silver smelt
#

waai fu ed2 niche Blitz

proven kelp
#

It's going to be Ranged anyway, kinda not important regardless

urban sleet
#

Doesnt she hqve support asw

lyric lagoon
#

nope, just ranged debuff supporter

urban sleet
hoary ruin
#

Speaking of preparing things for the SA2 release, I feel like we're going to get a lot of questions about the paid selector and "if worth" and "Who worth".

Probably a good idea to put something in the pins about that.

native cargo
#

To get robot with robot tag is there like a specific time strat or just go 1 hour

lunar apex
#

3:50

pine cosmos
#

Is Chen worth anything? Tbh I’m just interested in nightingale but it’s impossible if I yolo

lyric lagoon
#

just take the ifrit

shadow bay
pine cosmos
#

I already have Ifrit and ceobe

raven ermine
#

best here is either ifrit for a guarantee, or caster for ceobe/ifrit/mosti, which is what i'd do personally

nimble kite
raven ermine
#

ceobe/ifrit pots are good

lyric lagoon
pine cosmos
#

I never use ifrit since 2 years ago

shadow bay
#

listen listen

chase for mostima pots to p5??? SoraWow

nimble kite
restive depot
#

What limiteds are getting rerun with silverash?

raven ermine
pine cosmos
lyric lagoon
restive depot
plain drum
#

Mod x for Dorothy?

raven ermine
#

And passenger for RA

pine cosmos
#

lol I got nightingale

lyric lagoon
#

passenger, eunectes, and pepe ra mod havers praying for ra3 release soon

raven ermine
#

Pepe isn't so useful
Eun and passenger on the other hand

nimble kite
abstract mauve
#

i still dont get what passenger does

tulip inlet
#

Is this good stats for a fully build 252 base - 2 lvl 3 factory variant. Currently production is set to 3 gold and 2 XP.

lunar apex
nimble kite
pine cosmos
#

Btw should I level up nightingale if I already have mon3r and haruka?

shadow bay
pine cosmos
nimble kite
cinder hearth
#

Nightingale's role kinda gets eaten by Haruka 99% of the time

shadow bay
lyric lagoon
cinder hearth
#

Lightning mid

nimble kite
#

And she can put some decoys while Haruka doesn't do that.

limpid needle
#

I’m not sure if this counts as a help question since it’s about the story, and I know I’m very late to the party for this, but how exactly do you access the alternative endings of chapter 8? I tried looking up info about it but I may be stupid, I feel like I need someone to help me directly

native cargo
abstract mauve
#

pvz players know lightning reed only good in numbers

shadow bay
unkempt pollen
lyric lagoon
limpid needle
raven ermine
# abstract mauve i still dont get what passenger does

Basically
Everyone in the team is immune to environmental effects (fuck weather)
Everyone in the team gain +60% atk multi
Everyone recover 1 sp/s
And every 10s, passenger will select 5 tiles, with a bias for enemies groups, and reveal the tile/deal 500% atk_scale to them
Ops that are struck by the hit will recover 2sp too

#

Pretty loaded module ngl

abstract mauve
#

huh. tf yall talking about lightning if this is what he does

lyric lagoon
limpid needle
#

Apparently I already did the M8-8 and JT8-3 conditions unintentionally, that’s funny

lunar apex
#

Is his subclass chain caster ?

gloomy fossil
#

What are the operators i should get from the top op tomorrow?
Should i get kaltsit?

abstract mauve
#

ok but what does the lightning help you with when it hits an enemy

raven ermine
#

The "lightning" is the tile reveal/atk_scale
But overall it's very minor compared to what the module does

pine cosmos
abstract mauve
#

ye i wasnt aware of what the rest of the mod did. pretty good actually

raven ermine
silver smelt
#

what does this do outside bosky?

pine cosmos
#

And inmune with burning maps also?

lyric lagoon
native cargo
#

What event gives the most stages for op grind

raven ermine
formal shadow
robust thistle
silver smelt
#

ah so it doesnt just vanish KEKW

limpid needle
formal shadow
shadow bay
lunar apex
#

yea like adding 1 hope

static glade
#

Oh wait do the hidden endings give free originite prime

nimble kite
limpid needle
raven ermine
# pine cosmos And inmune with burning maps also?

All of those, gone, poof, fuck off lava fountain FlameHappy
Granted most of those aren't present in RA but ChenShrug
Main use of the module is mostly weather tho, at least for RAcc, because you won't see a lava fountain or burning tile at all

lyric lagoon
#

until we get ra3 jumpscare with all of those

native cargo
#

During limited banner updt in en its the same thing in cn right? So both get new limited at the same time?

robust thistle
#

No?

nimble kite
#

No.

native cargo
#

Oh ok

raven ermine
#

If you mean 7th anni for CN, they didn't even get the livestream yet

robust thistle
#

6 monhts behind is a rough timeframe

marble viper
#

what magallan skill to use?

robust thistle
#

is not using magallan an option

abstract mauve
raven ermine
#

Uh, mostly s1, but if you have to ask, do not the magallan

marble viper
nimble kite
robust thistle
#

well S1 deals literally 0 damage so

marble viper
#

what bout e1?

shadow bay
nimble kite
limpid needle
#

Weird question, but is there some kind of community document / list that labels the release date of all of the Operators, alongside when specific events released? I want to clear the old stages using units that were available at the time

robust thistle
#

its in the wiki

#

they'll suffer like hell on ToW and DM

opaque epoch
#

this stage is so ass i hate whoever made it

eager hull
#

for inviting inactive people back for the web event, how long do they have to be offline to count?

inland vale
#

should i go all out while trying to get wisadel?

have 300 pulls ready

eager hull
limpid needle
calm raptor
#

Are the april fool’s event a reoccurring thing every year?LappDumb

robust thistle
nimble kite
marble viper
raven ermine
#

this is IB

shadow bay
limpid needle
robust thistle
robust thistle
#

theres another page for event release date and banner date

limpid needle
robust thistle
#

they know its the wiki, theyre asking what page is this

limpid needle
#

Ah

odd sky
#

i can't 17 ops not listed released date

robust thistle
#

just check their banner date then

odd sky
robust thistle
#

or event release date

limpid needle
#

I thought the quality assurance on the wiki was better than the fandom wiki

robust thistle
#

it is

odd sky
#

i mean, yea, but prts wiki better

limpid needle
#

Oh I didn’t think to check that

inland vale
robust thistle
#

the channel recommendation doesnt change

narrow ibex
#

What does mylnar mod do

robust thistle
#

sparking is a personal choice, because objectively sinking 300 pulls just for 1 operator isnt worth

nimble kite
limpid needle
#

OH NO, IT’S ALL IN CHINESE

robust thistle
slate ridge
#

a chinese site for a chinese game

narrow ibex
native cargo
#

Can u get standard op in limited banner

robust thistle
#

what are you doing here then, you cant read these either

limpid needle
narrow ibex
robust thistle
#

because it doesnt

narrow ibex
#

wait so what does it do

robust thistle
#

like I said, have you read what it does

narrow ibex
#

jus tell vro

robust thistle
#

no, I'm not in a spoonfeeding mood

floral light
narrow ibex
vital kelp
#

guys should i buy hool using yellow certs? ive always been in help hearing people wanting to offrate her so, idk if shes good or

opaque epoch
#

is this bait

abstract mauve
# narrow ibex wait so what does it do

there's 3 parts to the mod

  1. liberator trait change
  2. aspd from mod stats
  3. talent change
    the aspd and talent change provide a similar amount of damage increase. due to frame rounding and attack cycles, mod1 aspd is the only one that increases his damage through aspd. so mod1 = mod 2 + mod3 in terms of damage increase in %
shadow bay
abstract mauve
#

uhhh tldr. mod1 = lib trait change + aspd mod2-3 = more damage

narrow ibex
#

thankks

robust thistle
#

I like how the answer also doesnt tell what it does exactly yet they accept it anyways

narrow ibex
robust thistle
#

probably

abstract mauve
#

my answer was good stfu AmiyaDonk

floral light
#

answering with "more damage on mod2-3" would probably be enough for them

maiden thunder
#

🙂

shadow bay
#

them?

floral light
#

I'll do unkind things to you

abstract mauve
#

mod1 is like 12% damage increase from getting 2 extra attacks during s3 and the atk stat. mod2-3 is 12% extra damage compared to mlynar with just mod1 from talent change assuming the stronger version of the talent is off and atk stat. mod1 also give lib trait change. that's all mlynar mod really does. yall are 🫃

maiden thunder
#

Yap^

abstract mauve
#

:realmad:

limpid needle
subtle dagger
limpid needle
subtle dagger
#

Which ones to do it with? Or just top op

robust thistle
indigo spoke
#

should i use m3 ticket on warf and which skill

subtle dagger
robust thistle
#

wdym you dont think so ReedBean

abstract mauve
#

schrodinger's suzuran

subtle dagger
#

Uh…no 6* named suzuran in my inv

robust thistle
#

then TO+slow and pray for suzuran
TO+shift if you want weedy
else solo TO

subtle dagger
#

I have weedy already

robust thistle
#

I didnt say you have to get weedy

limpid needle
# subtle dagger Help

Top + Nuke is Ch'en, Top + Shift is Weedy, Top + Slow is Magallan or Suzuran, Top + Survival is Skadi, Hellagur, Blaze, Eunectes, Mudrock, and Mountain

subtle dagger
#

Wait skadi? Isn’t that the name of-SkadiDaijoubu

floral light
#

yea but she sucks

limpid needle
abstract mauve
#

you either die a hero or see yourself released as a welfare variant 6* several years later

native cargo
#

Is mostima still relevant niche today

limpid needle
subtle dagger
#

Is suzuran that good? Cos otherwise I’d prefer to just solo top op

fringe kraken
#

Okay so with the six star selector ticket what should I pick?
I'm struggling between Logos, Ascalon, Haruka (if she's available), and Ulpianus as my choices what would be best for me?

robust thistle
#

shes one of the less bad options

limpid needle
floral light
shadow bay
robust thistle
#

90% of the op op pool is bad or niche
suzu leans more on the 10% half

limpid needle
abstract mauve
#

not sure how she makes your life easier

limpid needle
#

Suzuran does share the Slow tag with Magallan, but I wouldn’t say Magallan is bad either, just maybe really finicky to learn

robust thistle
#

doubt

limpid needle
#

Do note that I tend to judge operators with a very optimistic mindset

shadow bay
subtle dagger
#

I did top op and slow

limpid needle
floral light
#

are you sure

robust thistle
#

then slow got crossed out

shadow bay
#

dropped HellaKek

subtle dagger
#

Shining is bad?

limpid needle
coarse notch
#

time to ignore her for the rest of time

abstract mauve
#

it's always funny seeing the shining

cinder hearth
#

Shining otw to absolutely ruin a player's day.

native cargo
#

Dw i once got siege

robust thistle
#

shes not bad per se, shes just very eh

subtle dagger
proven kelp
#

Top Operator FAQ

Q: How does the Top Operator event work?
A: At any point in time a Recruitment gets refreshed, a Top Operator Tag will generate Once

Q: Does refreshing the tag give me back the Top Op?
A: No

Q: Is this [ Top Operator Tag Unit ] good?
A: Not generally. The good picks in Top Operator are niche units, meaning they excel in specific situations over general situations. So they aren't very good on General Content but will find uses eventually on higher end content.

Q: I have [ Meta Unit 1 ] and [ Meta Unit 2 ], who should i choose?
A: Whatever you have has very little meaning to what you are picking, the only thing that can change who you pick is whenever you already own that Top Operator Tag units. Don't bother asking what you have, the answer will remain the same

You're not using Top Tag to fill gaps in your operators, you're using them to get Hard to get Units for High End content, it's like an Investment, not useful now but will be in the future

Q: My tags/units aren't in the picture, who should i pick?
A: If they aren't in the picture then they're irrelevant, just pick whoever since it's unlikely you will find value for them anyway

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969192347965456414/1508594473234468926/Top_Op_page-0001_1.jpg?ex=6a161b96&is=6a14ca16&hm=3e2140e157459f13e54af6d1eecc9e9e7a0b192d6d9243cbf396b1d78336c291&animated=true

abstract mauve
#

she's lumen but without the good reputation of lumen

shadow bay
proven kelp
#

Just preparing my copy pasta for the following day

native cargo
#

Oh its a new one

abstract mauve
#

fae im calling the mods on you if you copy paste this

robust thistle
#

tangtang/mifu yuri

proven kelp
#

Wtfart why

coarse notch
#

get light to pin that instead please dont flashbang us

limpid needle
# subtle dagger Shining is bad?

Not bad, just not good. She is a single target healer who gives shields barrier, but she doesn’t really occupy a niche that other healers can’t also fill and do better. I’d say some 5 star options are more useful, even by the standards of year 1 Arknights, what with Ptilopsis and Warfarin being around

abstract mauve
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holy shit shields
she gives barrier btw not shield

coarse notch
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dont see a reason to raise shining at all

cinder hearth
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Shining gets eaten alive by Haruka.

robust thistle
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if shining gave shield on S2 she'd be used a lot more

turbid ocean
shadow bay
limpid needle
inland osprey
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anyone got chongyue s3m3 i could borrow pls

robust thistle
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Kerf#0066

slate ridge
robust thistle
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feater vs enforcer

inland osprey
limpid needle
cinder hearth
proven kelp
fathom nest
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Don't, you'll summon him

limpid needle
robust thistle
fathom nest
inland osprey
native cargo
robust thistle
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shoots your op in the head

proven kelp
limpid needle
native cargo
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Hell naw

cinder hearth
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Most high ground operators, however, do not survive

fathom nest
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They technically get buffed even if they die

shadow bay
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ig they were lenient to future geeks they dont recognize aak killing allies huh PodencoSip

raven ermine
nimble kite
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So you can cover them with Shining S3 buff to make them able to survive the Aak shot.

cinder hearth
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Well known griefing option in coop or a way to remove preset operators from a position.

robust thistle
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ahem, ackshually the buff only applies on the last dart 🤓

limpid needle
cinder hearth
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I too love drugging children

fathom nest
robust thistle
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screenshotted for context

proven kelp
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So true

limpid needle
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Aak is our resident Chaotic Neutral-slightly-leaning-toward-Evil harmacist

cinder hearth
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Anyways these days his buff is kinda mid as hell.

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There's a lot of better options, so he's very niche.

fathom nest
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50 aspd unironically more useful than 50% atk

limpid needle
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I’d say he’s still worth building for the funny, but yeah other units should be prioritized over him

limpid needle
abstract mauve
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e1 lvl 1 to shoot down wisadels from the sky

proven kelp
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If he wasn't a furry i would bring it anywhere

Goated buffer for Saki

cinder hearth
slate ridge
abstract mauve
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ammo ops RosChill

quiet terrace
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Should i keep using Mont3r S3? Is it not that relevant?

shadow bay
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indeed miwenar feel so weak when buffed with warf and stainless

slate ridge
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you use what you want or need
there is no 1 ultimate skill to always use

limpid needle
ebon plaza
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your weenar?

robust thistle
shadow bay
proven kelp
fathom nest
quiet terrace
robust thistle
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wdym by 'should you keep using x'
no one is forcing you to use only 1 skill ReedBean

cinder hearth
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Me when Lemuen aspd
Mon3tr s3 is a niche choice for if you need heavy true firepower somewhere.
s2 is just a generic buffer-healer option that works in a lot of places

robust thistle