help

[urban sleet]

not even e2 damn truly slacking off

[wraith shoal]

she's easy to get, so do some runs with trag and then when you e2 her borrow a maxed one

[hoary ruin]

I had 11 chapters of story to go through -.-
because I quit mid year 1.

[ancient current]

when she was released she seemed really good
don't know how the general consensus has settled after that

@abstract mauve final thoughts on ripresa?

@undone portal too

[buoyant sigil]

I feel as while she looked good splash dot caster(was it?) doesn’t look exactly good not gonna lie
Despite her damage, I don’t exactly know if she is that good

[wraith shoal]

splash casters are generally bad, few exceptions ofcourse

[ancient current]

I was also very pessimistic about her kit but shileds was shilling her so hard on release

so like

[urban sleet]

Shileds going beying welfareknights

[ancient current]

^

[floral light]

isn't her dps alright
something like 2.3k with s2

I feel like I asked about ripresa a while ago

[formal shadow]

Ripresa the welfare splash caster?

[floral light]

she's the titi banner 5* not welfare

[ancient current]

wait titi? this soon?

[floral light]

it was the centurion guy who was welfare

[ancient current]

oh yeah varkaris

[formal shadow]

That's wrong banner. Perfumeralter is the banner 5*

[floral light]

nvm it was bellone oops

[ancient current]

...right

titi seemed way too soon

[floral light]

I haven't been playing at all so I forgot

[tired wharf]

We need the term “whalefare” for this

[frank talon]

Que?

[steep goblet]

Should i summon for lin

[silver smelt]

no

[rose mist]

Is there a guide somewhere for me to check best module/skills for full abyssal hunter team?

[ancient current]

well, if you want to fully commit to AH you max them all out

[silver smelt]

ah is just ulpi glad anw

[raven ermine]

Not if you play the niche

[urban sleet]

Standard banners are 98% of the time not worth pulling

[ancient current]

don't pull on standard rotating banners

[silver smelt]

how good is naran in is6 nowadays

[rose mist]

Which would cost too much sanity so I plan to just get the modules and stuff id use

[urban sleet]

And god forbid you touch kernel

[sand sparrow]

why do i get this whenever i try to log into the webpage

[keen hedge]

Wrong email

[undone portal]

her kit feels very easy to compare to leonhardt so ill base my analysis on that. similar easy cycling as leon, she has better damage at 0res but no res shred so mileage may vary depending on enemy composition. having whats basically a quick-cycle version of w s3 is cool

[steep goblet]

Also is there fast way to farm distinction?

[wraith sentinel]

At most buying the 5* operators in the Purchase Certificate shop (very inefficient, you get 5 per duplicate), or Recruitments for 4* duplicates (and 5* duplicates I suppose, but that's even less reliable).

[undone portal]

i feel comfortable saying shes one of the better 5stars at least. now whether you would want to build her over, say, santalla or any of the 6stars is kinda a favoritism angle

[raven ermine]

You don't max everything anyway
S1m3 mod3 andreana
s1m3 mod3 specter
s3m3 mody3 specalt
skadiguard modx3 (NOT the AH one) s2m3 s3m3
Ulpi s2m3 s3m3 mod3
Gladiia s2m3 (can s3m3 too) modx3

[undone portal]

ah comp does use skadi1, just use s2 + frd module

[ancient current]

leonhardt tier sounds great
well, high res isn't something you'll be using splash casters against anyways,
so better than leonhardt sounds fantastic

did she get the not shit module? I forgot

[undone portal]

she got the good mod (dp reduction)

[ancient current]

actually peak unit?!

[raven ermine]

Yes, that's skadi guard
You just don't use the AH module, maybe that wasn't worded in the best way
Skalter doesn't count for AH niche anyway

[undone portal]

ripresa even seems copable for hitcount situations because of how s2 works. good 5star

[ancient current]

does ripresa work fine at e1? i.e. reccable-ish for newbie?

[humble nova]

ulpi s2m3?

[urban sleet]

S3m3

[undone portal]

having actual burst damage sounds nice, as opposed to whatever lava does

[raven ermine]

I mostly played snipermed
At least in class squad she was a decent draft, especially when you're done with chetto/rosmo core drafts
Don't know how she end up faring in other starter squads

[humble nova]

Mayuhiko mention'd s2m3, whats the point

[urban sleet]

Thatd abyssal hunter squad

[raven ermine]

That's for AH niche specifically
Being an unkillable brick wall

[humble nova]

ahh

[ancient current]

so peak unit
gotcha ty

[abstract mauve]

she just has good numbers from what i worked out. as long as there's 3 enemies in her she's doing pretty well amd she has a good cycle. her explosions have a good explosion range so like yeah

[ancient current]

a good 5*? in this economy?!

[urban sleet]

This is not the hg I know

[wraith sentinel]

If only Perfumer got that treatment...

[abstract mauve]

9.2k damage on a 12sp cycle is pretty good especially for a 5*. especially when it's not that hard to access me think

[left tulip]

thoughts on snow hunter

[severe crypt]

She hunts snow ig

[abstract mauve]

i dont think there's that much going for her but her damage is passable

[ancient current]

we're already not reccing coldshot so like

[mental gull]

Is it recommended to save up originite primes than to spend all of them on orundum?

[wraith sentinel]

Keep some saved if you like to buy outfits, otherwise only other (relevant) use is for Orundum.

[mental gull]

It can be used to buy off IS rewards.

[wraith sentinel]

...just play it. Also the rewards aren't good enough to be spending Originite Prime on.

[kind goblet]

What happened to the 6★ recruiting event? I never saw the 6★ one appear

[wraith sentinel]

Wait until SilverAsh's event is live.

[mental gull]

so it's really only useful for orundum?

[wraith sentinel]

And outfits, yes. Never spend on Sanity or Furniture.

[raven ermine]

Would you be playing more IS if each reward tier was 180 and the materials/lmd/exp ?

[timber finch]

wait, the "spark" currency after banner is gone gone or transferred as something else ?

[raven ermine]

Because that's basically what spending originite for levels is

[wraith shoal]

gone

[left tulip]

The last thing in cert shop

[wraith sentinel]

Turns into Headhunting Parametric Models which you can use for materials.

[fathom nest]

Pro enhancement packs
Don't manually convert to though, the gacha will do it for you automatically

[raven ermine]

It becomes parametric tokens
You can use it to buy mats

[wraith shoal]

yeah mb, forgot that even existed

[timber finch]

as a 1:1 or better ?

[fathom nest]

It's 1:6

[timber finch]

alr 🙏 ty

[eager hull]

for spending them, here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15cLHPcl96V38mWeXymia6j6cfS2cJPKIVYJYzLvUF3w/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[timber finch]

ty

[keen hedge]

Hello, why is the prospective investment system unavalible?

[ancient current]

are you doing the monthly squad or a deep investigation? it isn't available there

[keen hedge]

No 🥺

[ancient current]

oh wait

this is is2

[keen hedge]

Yes 😬

[ancient current]

doesn't prospective investment have an unlocking condition like clearing a run at least once
genuinely forgot how that works i breeze through IS too fast

[urban sleet]

Does is2 even have that

[ancient current]

yeah it does

[keen hedge]

I already have progress though 🤨

[wraith sentinel]

I may be misremembering, but it might have a chance to randomly not appear.

[ancient current]

ukw that wouldn't surprise me coming from is2

[urban sleet]

Whats this rng for the sake of rng thats is3's thing

[ancient current]

is2 is shit so it's allowed to tap into the worst of every other IS

[urban sleet]

[keen hedge]

Maybe is that so you dont reset runs on floor 1 and invest too quickly? 😢

[undone portal]

kinda just a worse coldshot im afraid. need to hold onto both s2 charges if she wants to apply freeze unassisted

[wraith sentinel]

I guess can kinda work with Gnosis' IS Module.

[fathom nest]

From looking around it seems to be random to open. Hard mode may have a higher chance for it to be available

Genuinely never paid it any attention

[keen hedge]

Hardmode doesnt exist anymore tho 🫠😵‍💫

[timber finch]

guys whats the diff between operation and emergency operation in is6 🙏
apart difficulty

[rose mist]

Thank you, this is gonna be very handy

[fathom nest]

Oh right they added diff scaling

[wraith sentinel]

Emergency Operations give a random Collectible.

[waxen cosmos]

What code do i use in the work of the saintess website ?

[timber finch]

ty

[fathom nest]

If you're a returner then select one from #1492484592878354603 to use

[wraith sentinel]

Do they also give more Command EXP? I forgot.

[waxen cosmos]

Nope

[fathom nest]

Then you don't use a code. It's only for people coming back to the game

[timber finch]

just to be sure, whats better, 2op or 1emergency op ?
cause i guess emergency beats normal anyways

[waxen cosmos]

Oh

[waxen cosmos]

Emergency normally

[vital kelp]

id take 2 op cuz more draft but depends on what the other node on the emer path is

[wraith sentinel]

Depends what other node you're getting, and whether you need more Hope or not.

[vital kelp]

also, 2 normal op is more command exp than 1 emer

[timber finch]

i still struggle to know what command exp does 😭

[wraith sentinel]

Increases your Command Level, gives you Hope per level up and increases slots at certain thresholds.

[waxen cosmos]

When you level up you get hope max life points and life points

[fathom nest]

Click on it

[timber finch]

..ah
ty 🙏 was told to murder everything before atleast

[raven ermine]

Depend where you are in the run
Usually 2 fights is better node economy than 1 emergency imo
You get hope through exp out of it, and one more ticket
If you're already good draft wise/hope wise, one emergency is better for the additional relic

[wraith sentinel]

Life Points too? I thought they didn't...

[waxen cosmos]

Max life points

[timber finch]

alr alr, thanks

[waxen cosmos]

Since you still get some lifepoints out of them you can recover hp somewhat

However to be honest if you're at floor 5 encounters are much more valuable

[wraith sentinel]

Uh, is that some theme-specific mechanic?

[waxen cosmos]

Tbf u kinda right

[fathom nest]

IS5 you get max LP at lv3 and 6

[waxen cosmos]

Mainly IS5

[wraith sentinel]

Okay that makes sense, I've only done IS2 so far.

[waxen cosmos]

You're missing on alot

[timber finch]

oh well it's gonna be fun when im gonna try the others again to re-discover 😭

[wraith sentinel]

I'm doing them in order, and still need to do a bunch of story to start on IS3.

[waxen cosmos]

If you need is3 explained you can be my guest

[wraith sentinel]

I'll figure things out on my own.

[waxen cosmos]

Trust me you won't get what enlightments do unless you're doing deep investigation

[timber finch]

also what does "wish fulfilled" does, or "prophecy" without the item ? (still is6)
(im guessing collectibles/nothing ?)

[wraith sentinel]

Maybe I won't trust you.

[keen hedge]

How do people generally rank IS by fun? I only played Phantom, Mizuki and Sui and Mizuki is my favorite.

[ancient current]

remember that stickers- didn't even need the reminder

[waxen cosmos]

Idk all are good if you're good enough

[mossy rose]

i recommend atleast unlocking raidon from lastest is cause shes has daily quest like use 400 stamina to lvl

[waxen cosmos]

You can get runs like these in is3

[wraith sentinel]

I know about her.

[mild yacht]

Prophecy is just where you choose to or not to go to ending 1 or 2, assuming you have the item for ending 2.

[timber finch]

well thank god i didnt have this item ever since im not winning e1 yet

[wraith shoal]

then I'm gonna need ya soon, doing IS3 after I'm done with 6

[raven ermine]

IS2 is very linear, it's not really fun at all ngl, also, the relic economy there is quite shit, you end up with few relics, and many debuffs
IS3 is pretty okay to me, but i've heard a lot of people referring to it as ass to play, i assume it's mostly because of "rejections", and maybe the fact that ground ops are heavily disadvantaged in that IS iteration
IS4 is fun
IS5 could be really fun, but the meta of going for all kings relics + book/hand with lamp of wishes end up making all runs pretty similar and the gameplan is pretty much always the same (talons is a lot of fun when you highroll)
IS6 is fun, but pretty easy imho

[mild yacht]

At worst, you could still go to ed1, but now with 50% more penalty!

[pale tapir]

wish fulfilled just gives you one of two collectibles or a chance to get both or neither if you get a bad toss IIRC

[waxen cosmos]

Cool i spent enough time on these modes to pull each info out of my ears

[timber finch]

wait, wdym penalty ? 👀

[mild yacht]

Items for other endings normally come with debuffs.

[timber finch]

ah, fair

[waxen cosmos]

Just don't pick the unslead case

[timber finch]

what it does ? e2 i guess?

[pale tapir]

is ed1 into ed4 not possible tho
I've done it before, not too hard

[waxen cosmos]

How so you need to pass either enhanced ed1 or ed2 befoee ed4

[keen hedge]

I guess Mizuki is very harsh in high diffiuclty and Phantom too repetitive.

[waxen cosmos]

No ed4 collectible enhances ed1 and ed2 boss fight gives the boss +20 aspd and makes your life harder

[waxen cosmos]

Is3 is pretty easy if you can strategize enough and know your game

[timber finch]

yeah prob not buffing the boss is a good plan 😭

[pale tapir]

to do ed4 you still need to do either ed1 or 2 tho

[waxen cosmos]

I maybe did not understand it that way appologieis

[odd sky]

coffin my goat

[waxen cosmos]

Idk it was pretty easy the only threatning part was when the bomb devils made my units disapear

[timber finch]

i mean that's already how i lost all my runs

[waxen cosmos]

Alright lemme break it down for you an easy srat to allways win yi

[timber finch]

oh i got one, just trying to get lucky enough to do it with no troubles and hoping for more dps

[odd sky]

#is-station pins

what text wall you cooking mayu

[light latch]

Just spawncamp yi with hoshi alt if u have her

[raven ermine]

I don't think so
IS3 isn't that harsh especially when you know what you're doing, tho it can be said for every IS ig
IS2 on the other hand, the main thing i see players complain about is that the game tend to roster check you with some stages (4* not being free is part of said factor), relic economy is very poor, and you have very little impact on what you actually path toward/the run in general
No tongbaos/plans/index/foldartals/keys/lingerer/inspirer
You basically have zero agency, and players like to have choices to make

[timber finch]

i have no defender that survive her to be precise
it include her

[waxen cosmos]

You start with tragodia tragodia gets his s2 up you trap yi at the top since yi only spawns bombs at his level you use radian's s2 or s1 or any fast redoply or hoshi alter or any tank and block him keep on stalling yi at the top while dealing physical damage not arts and gg

[raven ermine]

Words, a lot of it

[timber finch]

the only thing i really need to do is more dps 🙏

[waxen cosmos]

Dps ain't cutting it bro 😭

Yi is a fucking tank

[timber finch]

last time i did that strat i ran out of redeploys, radiant drones, and people to throw at the boss 😭

[light latch]

Me when survivalist instantly wakes up sleeping mobs on stage start and i take x4 hp dmg

[waxen cosmos]

How bro

[timber finch]

well he didnt die and advanced by killing everything

[waxen cosmos]

What difficulty you even playing on

[light latch]

Unless you’re on high difficulty, hoshi alt should be able to just directly solo yi

[timber finch]

base one 😭
i don't have hoshi alt lucent

[pale tapir]

the borrow button:

[waxen cosmos]

With buffs and a mon3tr she can solo him

[raven ermine]

Ngl even without trag, you can somewhat cycle raidian s1 and still have a lot of leeway

[timber finch]

tragodia

[light latch]

u dont need buffs or a healer if this is on lower difficulties

[waxen cosmos]

Still need buffs as no operztor solos yi like that

[pale tapir]

hoshi alt solos yi like that at low diff wdym

[waxen cosmos]

I forgot it's low difficulty dawg

I just never play low difficulty cause of the +1 hope at d9

[pale tapir]

d9 is still kinda low difficulty tbh

[light latch]

Raidian s1, sakiko aiming upwards from out of bomb range, tragodia s2 spam, hoshi alt, lots of options

[abstract mauve]

in is6 it's like d14 or smthn for +1 hope

[wraith sentinel]

At least some of the IS2 Hallucinations are kinda funny, especially Dejected.

[waxen cosmos]

No it is d9 and above

[waxen cosmos]

Hallucination :

[abstract mauve]

5* and 6* get it at different times

[waxen cosmos]

Wdym ?

[quiet terrace]

I didn’t realize 14-21 was easy

[pale tapir]

real
my first clear was ray + gravel + agents
you can play around the relics you get too

[raven ermine]

Well 6* costing one more hope is d15 btw

[abstract mauve]

wiki says d8 for +1 hope for 5* and d15 for +1 hope for 6*

[waxen cosmos]

Ohhhhh but i lowkey was talking about the intial hope

[waxen cosmos]

I just like to start witha guaranteed 7 that' all

[abstract mauve]

the 5* costing more hope is mostly irrelevant. 6* costing more hope isnt a problem either tbh since is6 is very forgiving in hope economy due to pathfinder nodes

[crystal flame]

Hey guys, new player here. Quick question - I have nearly 300 pulls saved for the upcoming limited banner next week. What is a reasonable expectation to have going with 300 pulls? Should I expect to get both limited units plus maybe other six stars? I’m doing it bc I want to spark Wisadel.

[abstract mauve]

heard people also deciding to skip pathfinder alltogether due to how forgiving it is

[waxen cosmos]

Mostly

[wraith shoal]

dont spark

[ancient sonnet]

New player - 300 pulls... wtf?

[waxen cosmos]

Do not spark

[wraith sentinel]

General recommendation is to not spark, but otherwise yes that should be more than enough to get both.

[abstract mauve]

dont plan to go for spark

[crystal flame]

I’m going to for both units. If that happens before 200 pulls, I should stop?

[pale tapir]

unless wifeadel is your wife and you will quit the game without her I guarantee you she isn't worth 300 pulls

[raven ermine]

Sparking isn't worth it
Now that this is said and out of the way
Going for 300 would guarantee the limited at least, missing pramanix would be a 3.5% chance
You get around 8-9 operators on average for 300 pulls, outside of the spark and guaranteed copy of silverash

[wraith sentinel]

If you only have a little bit left no harm, but three hundred is a lot to spend.

[abstract mauve]

ye that would be recommended

[odd sky]

after you get both silverash alter and pramanix alter, you stop
preferably on last day of the banner, but it's fine

[crystal flame]

Why last day?

[wraith sentinel]

Because of daily pulls.

[crystal flame]

Ohhhh, gotcha.

[hoary ruin]

I would wait and see how many pulls it takes you to get both rateups. If you're near 300 pulls by the time you get both of them, then maybe spark Wis.

Just keep in mind 300 pulls is worth about 4 important new operators.

[keen hedge]

I agree a lot with this regarding IS2, you also said before that in IS5 all runs look the same, is it because those relics can be obtained consistently? I feel like in IS2 the relics dont do anything 90% of the time.

[left tulip]

That way in case you’re very lucky with both you haven’t spent any pulls of yours

[crystal flame]

Okay, thanks guys!! ❤️

[raven ermine]

300 pulls is worth way more than 4 ops
The average for a 6* is 34 pulls

[pale tapir]

that's like 8-9 ops on avg

[odd sky]

also keep in mind, we have wang, monhun collab and new cn anniversary, save your pulls

[hoary ruin]

I'm going off the whole "150 pulls is enough to get both rateups on a limited banner"

[wraith sentinel]

Monster Hunter collab is kinda still up in the air though, especially with the Situation™. At least no confirmed date.

[wraith shoal]

monhun collab is at least 6 months away tho and between sash2 and wang there isnt any good banner, so lots of pulls can be saved up

[crystal flame]

Is wang soon?

[wraith shoal]

3 months from now ish

[left tulip]

What’s the situation you’re talking abt

[odd sky]

don't think you understand, there's yato2, new collab AND limited

[wraith sentinel]

CN and JP relations probably. Though not sure if that's something to be discussed in this channel.

[crystal flame]

How many pulls can a new casual player expect to grind over 3 months?

[wraith shoal]

a lot

[odd sky]

like 150-200

[wraith sentinel]

Especially with old events giving Originite Prime.

[wraith shoal]

yeah but monhun is not even announced, so lots of time to save up

[wraith sentinel]

And as always there are free pulls on the limited banners.

[odd sky]

that's why you save, because we don't know

it was announced wdym
just no date yet

[wraith shoal]

Well I meant release date and banner and stuff

[raven ermine]

Yes, the consistency of IS5 runs is kinda crazy ngl
You have basically starter relics in f1/f2 encounters, one of those being lamp
Lamp act as a guaranteed run tailoring, in that, it can be used to refresh nodes into wish nodes (relic nodes) and will guarantee certain relics if you meet certain conditions
King's set on 1 hp
Toy/chalice for a bazillion aspd if you have enough ingots
And hand/books for your "class" depending on your recruited ops
The last one being quite detrimental for variety in IS5 imo, because if you draft some operators that can get hand/books, you end up needing more wish nodes to get everything up to chalice
Like, ascalon is straight up undraftable in most cases for example

[silver smelt]

this is only if you play lamp slop

[winter crystal]

IS5 can be manipulated so much people say it’s not a rouge like anymore but meh it’s fun idc

[silver smelt]

if youre bored play talons 🥱

[wraith sentinel]

Just hope it doesn't go the way of the Destiny 2 collab.

[raven ermine]

Well that's a big part of the IS5 high diff gameplay
I already mentioned talon is fun anyway

[sinful sleet]

there's a what

[silver smelt]

multiple ending high differs wont use lamp afaik

[odd sky]

i remember when talon is the meta 👴

[sinful sleet]

please arknights I can barely afford to pull for sashalt and pramalt don't stack on another collab when wang/ch'en alt is next on the list

[odd sky]

collab is at least 6+ months away

[raven ermine]

Pretty certain the usual route for is5 ed 245 is lamp

[raven ermine]

Do we know if yato2 has a rerun ?

[blissful mortar]

Which eyja module is better

[odd sky]

i meant before lamp, talon was meta

[wraith sentinel]

No, people only assume so because of the second R6S collab which also reran the previous collab operators.

[raven ermine]

Yes that was meant for cas

[odd sky]

oh, he's just usual cas being a parrot

[blissful mortar]

Which eyja module is better

[raven ermine]

Talons highroll are still crazy good
Talons not highroll are still you explode

[toxic thorn]

bro should I get silverash alter or premanix alter or should I just save for zima

[pale tapir]

both

[vital kelp]

all

[winter crystal]

or you could stumble into dif 1 ending 2 and 4 as a newbie #help message

[odd sky]

you can skip zima genuinely

[blissful mortar]

Which eyja module is better

[keen hedge]

Thanks Mayuhiko you always have the best responses. 🎨🖌️🥺

[silver smelt]

parroting who
everyones parroting lamp

[pale tapir]

roadless in pins has mod recs btw

[blissful mortar]

Where is that sry

[odd sky]

everyone parroting lamp, are we serious

[raven ermine]

Because that's the meta

[pale tapir]

where is the yuri master when we need them
in pins
scroll all the way down
first link
I don't have eyja so I can't recommend anything personally in good faith

[silver smelt]

i mean yeah..?

[raven ermine]

So where's the parrot ?
Can't parrot if you speak from experience either anyway

[odd sky]

yknow what let's recommend doodle, cuz i said so

[silver smelt]

how am i supposed to be parroting an opinion that isnt even widely held if im saying dont play lamp

[cinder hearth]

Parrot parrot parrot but never job job job

[blissful mortar]

What channel

[proven kelp]

This...

[wraith shoal]

well this one

[blissful mortar]

oh shi thanks pookies

[silver smelt]

also like who the fuck would i be parroting from

[abstract mauve]

curious

[odd sky]

i know a few talon enjoyers in #is-station
you're saying you don't run lamp, yet you're saying multiple ending high diff don't run it

[pulsar hemlock]

who should i use the freebie m3 on

[silver smelt]

ive run both??

[abstract mauve]

kroos2 s2 or silence s2 or la pluma s1/s2. depends on what you need tbh

[cinder hearth]

Pluma s2 looks most tempting but I'm rusty.

[abstract mauve]

you can always just save it for better options down the line

[odd sky]

that was my bad, then why are you saying don't play lamp?

[raven ermine]

Well saying to play talons is something, not something you should recommend here but whatever
Saying you should run talons over lamp for high diff multiples endings is another one, and afaik, and experienced, this is just wrong

[odd sky]

talon is just so wildly inconsistent, it's not recommended at all

[abstract mauve]

im aware people run talons for high end i just disagree even when handmixxing but wtvr

[silver smelt]

im saying dont play lamp if you want to have fun
i play high diff talons because its more fun

im also not saying the meta is lamp for high diff im saying people run it

[cursive maple]

hmm

[abstract mauve]

anyway the wisadel comp plays lamp so this is meaningless smh

[silver smelt]

idk i ban wis

[abstract mauve]

i ban non welfares

[pulsar hemlock]

i have more five stars that just arent at sl7 umm
i think the notable ones are matsukiri, gracebearer, tequila, and ptilo

[cinder hearth]

"I hate chicken and rice"

[silver smelt]

i hate unseasoned boiled chicken and rice yes

[abstract mauve]

wtf

[limpid yarrow]

the strongest lamp squad is erudite but we're not ready for that conversation

[silver smelt]

[abstract mauve]

the strongest squad in general is first class anyway 🥱

gets stronger each eddition. eventually it will just gift you an e2 team

[keen hedge]

When do you use La Plum S2? I found S1 to be more useful for me 🤔

[limpid yarrow]

first class lowkey workable
someone brought it to theurgy 7

first class BP start with lamp
there are a suprising amount of good 5 stars

amiya tin man obviously but also quercus ashlock silence greyy2 kroos2 shamare...

[abstract mauve]

5*s just goated smh

[cinder hearth]

When you want to press a button to do more damage and help her fight tougher enemies.
Remember that her healing relates heavily to aspd.

[silver smelt]

see i might be stupid or uninformed but my opinions are my own

[cinder hearth]

S1 will explode violently against a lot of elites S2 can make it out of.

[keen hedge]

I guess thats another way to use her. I usually avoid using unhealable operators on elite+ enemies.

[left tulip]

Has swire alt been in gold cert shop yet?

[raven ermine]

https://akgcc.github.io/shoplist/

[cinder hearth]

Any laneholder worth their salt needs to be able to withstand the inevitable elites coming down their lane.

If they absolutely have to rely on another op for additional DPS output, that's not great imo.

[left tulip]

Fuck it was recently

That’s what the other guy meant, feels bad fr

[cinder hearth]

And it's not really like s2 will let trash enemies leak usually, given pluma offskill does perfectly fine in 95% of trash killing scenarios.

[wraith shoal]

I think I said that she was here recently, idk tho, might be misremembering

[modern gust]

any of the 5 stars are worth spending 75 spark thing for in the silverash banner

[cinder hearth]

You only can spark the banner 5*

[abstract mauve]

there's only snow hunter

[mild yacht]

There’s only one 5 in the banner.

[cinder hearth]

The rest of the spark shop is gonna be 6* lol

[keen hedge]

Damage is not the problem, its survival. But I usually run 3 medics which most people would say its too much

[abstract mauve]

ye that is a bit much

[modern gust]

so better to just use it for rare mats then right

[abstract mauve]

they probably arent sufficiently leveled tho

[odd sky]

is the way to use snow hunter is using both charges to freeze
coldshot have much better cc

[abstract mauve]

gold certs kinda better since pulls. i do be getting mats sometimes tho

[cinder hearth]

Will say damage directly ties to survival most the time. A dead enemy doesn't typically deal damage.

[raven ermine]

I usually would rather have certs
i've seen players argue for both, just feel like certs are directly correlated with pull economy
Especially if you already have p6

[abstract mauve]

ye uhh she's just worse than coldshot generally. it is what it is

[cinder hearth]

Waow, so almost as broken as coldshot

[abstract mauve]

she feels more like a welfare than astgenne2

[keen hedge]

Well, Ceylon & Breeze count as half each 😢

[raven ermine]

Ew

[cinder hearth]

Is her DpH better or worse, I forgor'ed

[abstract mauve]

worse than coldshot's crits for sure

[cinder hearth]

Crazy

[reef sparrow]

apply a freeze to single enemy every 20 secs

[odd sky]

worse, but she has like 3 hits on each skill activation

[cinder hearth]

I honestly thought she'd be better than coldshit at least

[abstract mauve]

ye but worse damage cuz coldshot skill good duration

maybe you underestimate coldshot smh

[odd sky]

worse ray s1

[cinder hearth]

I have her built too, I'm a fraud

Ig 50% uptime is pretty good.

[kindred verge]

Guys new player here I’m lost on what banner should I pull

[abstract mauve]

wait 3 days and good banner come

[undone portal]

silverash/pramanix alters are coming in 3 days, theyre among the current meta vanguard/casters. just hold onto your pulls until then

[silver smelt]

does the ed4 scout node option also promote the op?

[abstract mauve]

ye

[vernal drift]

Are their any healers that can heal surtur enough too keep her alive while she uses twilight ?

[silver smelt]

Shu Haruka Mon3tr CE

[vernal drift]

Really haruka can?

Huh i didn't expect that honestly also who is CE?

[mild yacht]

Civilight Eterna

[spare jetty]

ch14 welfare

[silver smelt]

No, all 4 of them can, together

[vernal drift]

Ohh together you need too

[silver smelt]

yes its not realy worth it

[abstract mauve]

[slim tusk]

haruka hps is not exactly that big so yeah

[vernal drift]

Yeah that makes more sense lol

[proven kelp]

CE can single handedly keep her alive with her s3 aslong as there are other allies in the area

Then you simply cycle between the other 3 skills to keep her alive until CE can use her skill again
Then rinse and repeat

[past crescent]

I've arrived. My squad and my operators.
Any help?

[abstract mauve]

use e2 voucher on la plama

[slim tusk]

if you have to use 4 healer you can just afk atp

[past crescent]

I already spent them

[abstract mauve]

on who?
they arent in the pic as far as i can tell

[past crescent]

What operator?

[ancient lintel]

the one you use the e2 voucher on

[past crescent]

?

[balmy moat]

Can you use more than one persons code in #1492484592878354603

[ancient lintel]

ye use it on la pluma then

[reef sparrow]

use on la pluma

[balmy moat]

Can you use more than one persons code in #1492484592878354603

[worldly zealot]

I think thorns really wants e2 idk for sure tho have not used him in long time

[past crescent]

Can codes be used, and if so, where and how?

[pseudo jungle]

drop hibiscus, vanilla, lava, courier, jessica

would recommend raising fang, la pluma, nearl, exia (thorns can be raised later, new accounts can't afford thorns e2)

[reef sparrow]

both 6* are pretty bad

[wraith sentinel]

This isn't relevant for new players.

[pseudo jungle]

they're serviceable and largely trivializes main story content

[past crescent]

Pluma?
The one with black hair?

[abstract mauve]

exu isnt particularly recommended and she falls off quite hard even in main story

[pseudo jungle]

that goes for pretty much all six stars

and currently the new player does not have the luxury of picking which six star to pick

[wraith sentinel]

You can see their names under them...

[balmy moat]

Can you use more than one persons code in #1492484592878354603

[abstract mauve]

thorns is alright tho. fine raise for new player but requires e2 and m3 and mod

[pseudo jungle]

arknights main story can be cleared without any six stars, just takes a bit more effort

six stars just make it easier

[abstract mauve]

you dont say

[balmy moat]

I dotn need mode for thorns

[pseudo jungle]

i'm mainly saying this to the new player, not you

forgot to reply to them, oops.

[abstract mauve]

if you say this you just dont know how much mod affects them

[ancient lintel]

might wanna ask mods for that

[past crescent]

Well, so far I've gotten 4-8 with the squad I showed in the picture.

[pseudo jungle]

thorns gets a significant power spike with his delta module (significant as in compared to his non-modded self)

[abstract mauve]

both his mods are big power spikes

[balmy moat]

He feels strong already lel

[tired wharf]

-# so, not that fine in other words

[silver smelt]

dont get delta mod for thorns

[proven kelp]

Delta mod is meh

His other one is better for most cases and Delta is stupidly expensive lmao

[ancient lintel]

I mean ye it's a power spike, but it just gets him from like bad to okayish lol

[abstract mauve]

delta is less expensive if you dont have newer ops (post exu2) to raise

[reef sparrow]

I believe they can get a better 6* just by pulling in the upcoming limited banner than exu and thorns

[pseudo jungle]

right i forgot delta mod needs the expensive mats

[proven kelp]

Sadly newer ops are the ops newbies should raise!

[ancient lintel]

you will want his mod

[abstract mauve]

:susge:

[ancient lintel]

once you find out how bad he is against like 1k5 DEF or higher

[silver spindle]

Aint u supposed to have silver ash or sum from the 6 star voucher

[slim tusk]

exu is stinky regardless
you can cope thorns if you barely have anything

[pseudo jungle]

why the fuck would you place him against a 1.5k defense enemy

that's a you problem

[formal shadow]

[balmy moat]

Is sutr better i might just level her up

[brazen gulch]

how does this work? do newer ops require the same materials as the delta mod and because of this conflict it's considered "costlier"?

[vague wasp]

[ancient lintel]

surtr is miles better than thorns yes

[pseudo jungle]

the materials are only found in later story stages

[slim tusk]

newer ops just generally has better kits

[balmy moat]

Okei

[reef sparrow]

the guy is probably already gone, and this keeps on going

[ancient lintel]

he used it on apple pie or choco spaniard maybe

[abstract mauve]

mainly this thing but i dont consider it expensive personally

[formal shadow]

Just the single worst sanity efficiency mat in the game. Not bad

[ancient lintel]

it was expensive when ch15 first came out, after ato it's kinda not expensive anymore lol

[abstract mauve]

i didnt consider it expensive before ato either. i have 0s in other mats lol

[formal shadow]

They give you free hence why it hasn't been so bad

[proven kelp]

I mean obvious it's not expensive for old players

But where will new players get those? IS barley have those
Neither does RA

[ancient lintel]

like I manage to stock up 100 piss jar from ato so I'm good XD

[tired wharf]

I got some from events clearing

[brazen gulch]

ah, mlynar mod3 also needs it i recall vividly. still haven't done his mod3 because of it lmao. personally anything that builds out of coagulating gel is my freaking bane and there are no events in vicinity to farm it 😭

[proven kelp]

Right, now get enough to support other upcoming 6* that uses it

[silver spindle]

[balmy moat]

Is there anyone worth replacing on my main team

[ancient lintel]

I mean his choice
it's not like the end of the world if u dont pick sash
new players are gonna pick sash thorns or saria from that selector anyway

[ancient lintel]

too many vanguards
blaze can be benched

[balmy moat]

With who

[ancient lintel]

replace blaze with mylnar and idk vulpi/myrtle for surtr/mantra

[tired wharf]

they should repent for their sins

[thorny edge]

send ur roster

[balmy moat]

I did

[silver spindle]

True ig

[thorny edge]

msg link?

[wraith sentinel]

.

[balmy moat]

Right here

[ancient lintel]

seeing mylnar lemuen thorns and trag modless makes me cry ngl

[balmy moat]

Heres the rest of 5 stars

[ancient lintel]

get proviso up then

[thorny edge]

where 🐟

[wraith sentinel]

Though in the future krooster.com is preferred for sharing roster.

[silver spindle]

Thorns for mylner maybe

[balmy moat]

Expensive

[wraith sentinel]

Worth it.

[severe crypt]

Well it’s part of the gameplay loop

[thorny edge]

bro why is your mlynar not in ur team but blaze is

[ancient lintel]

1. it's worth it
2. it's not that expensive

[severe crypt]

It’s like booting up bo3 and not playing zombies

[ancient lintel]

I mean it's expensive if you dont have a proper RIIC setup

[thorny edge]

even then its not that expensive

[severe crypt]

Not really no, I haven’t had to touch my mat vouchers in like a year now

[balmy moat]

Im resource poor

[thorny edge]

omg really? same!

[ancient lintel]

grind IS/RA

[severe crypt]

Ok but skill issue laq

[balmy moat]

Like the most i can do is mylnar but i dont even bave the recipe for his crafting material unlocked lmfao

[wraith sentinel]

Uh.

[ancient lintel]

you need to get to ch9 for that

[severe crypt]

You just need a certain chap 9 stage for that tho

[thorny edge]

pretty good mod1 tbf

[ancient lintel]

S9-3 or somethin iirc

[balmy moat]

Oh wait i just cant even get his module

[severe crypt]

Wdym

[wraith sentinel]

Level.

[ancient lintel]

ch13 locked i guess
called it

[balmy moat]

Im on chapter 7

[severe crypt]

Just skip to chap 9

[thorny edge]

ch11 stage
just play the game babe

[spare jetty]

u can skip to ch9
it does not connected to ch8 in lore terms

[balmy moat]

[balmy moat]

Well i stiill wanna go in order

[ancient lintel]

why does it says somethin new in regular tasks?

[wraith sentinel]

You already have the required 2 Nucleic Crystal Sinters, Mlynar just needs to be Level 60 for Module.

[severe crypt]

You can just skip the story and read back later

[thorny edge]

mod unlock condition wants ch11 stage

[wraith sentinel]

Oh, I see.

[balmy moat]

[balmy moat]

Nuh

[wraith sentinel]

Fair enough then.

[thorny edge]

just give mlynar some levels and replace blaze with mlynar and do whatever.
ur on ch7 🥹

[balmy moat]

Oh hey I can do this

[severe crypt]

Is thorns mod even worth it these days

[thorny edge]

or u can yk, stop investing into thorns
istg people only use thorns bc of sunk cost fallacy

[balmy moat]

Wait whats better

[severe crypt]

Atp none

[ancient lintel]

with her roster, if you disregard those that are chapter locked, he's kinda the only one lol

[thorny edge]

mod delta but its such a marginal increase from his other mod that u can just not get it if u already have his old one

[ancient lintel]

X, preferably lv2+

[severe crypt]

But like wouldn’t you wanna keep a stockpile for the better mods?

[balmy moat]

I was told to replace blaze and one of my vanguards

[thorny edge]

sure u can do that. heck u can remove half the ops in ur squad and be fine

[ancient lintel]

ye cause u have mylnar, why is mylnar benched for blaze lol

[severe crypt]

But yeah mlynar still good even without mod

[balmy moat]

I needed lane hold :(

[worldly estuary]

Blaze laneholding? I think there’s other problem

[thorny edge]

u have trag and wisadel and thorns in the same team, what is blaze doing?

[balmy moat]

She lane hold in front of ines

[thorny edge]

why is ines not in the front

[severe crypt]

Deadass, no need for laneholding of the enemy is dead

[balmy moat]

Cause she one lane hold and has good range

[thorny edge]

[worldly estuary]

…

[ancient lintel]

u have all the top3 units lol, why does blaze thinks she's part of the party 🥀

[balmy moat]

So she can shoot from behind blaze

[ancient lintel]

ur using ines to DPS???

[balmy moat]

Why not her stun is pretty nice

[worldly estuary]

[thorny edge]

yk ines has a short redeploy time right
she can be placed all over the map

[balmy moat]

Havent needed to use it yet im on chapter 7

[severe crypt]

It’s a bind, and ur supposed to retreat after she’s done dp gening

[thorny edge]

if all ines is doing is sitting behind blaze, you might asw just use pallas for more dps
or fucking swire dawg

[ancient lintel]

wtf is this strat 🥀
even if you wanna do that, why dont just, ya know, use thorns behind blaze for example? better damage and bigger range XD

[severe crypt]

Yeah I think Pallas would do better

[balmy moat]

I put thorns behind saria

[thorny edge]

so whats tragussy doing

[ancient lintel]

It's suppose to be blaze behind saria bruh....

[balmy moat]

I just place him high ground and cat scary people

[balmy moat]

Okay then ill place ines behidn thorns

[worldly estuary]

atp I might think there’s a bigger problem about not being able to pass ch7

[balmy moat]

I am beating the levels

[ancient lintel]

can u just
like
place ines down, get some DP, and then retreat her?

[thorny edge]

hang on if ur beating the levels fine, then just chill and beat levels

[ancient lintel]

yes because you're overpowered, but like the way ur doing it, does not seems right man, to us at least

[thorny edge]

its fine he can come back when he runs into trouble, returning customers good for long term revenue

[severe crypt]

We don’t get paid laq 🥹

[thorny edge]

true...

[ancient lintel]

as if we get paid for this

[balmy moat]

I mean i have plenty of people to place so why not just have her as a little extra damage

[severe crypt]

Ok technically I get paid cuz I #help during work

[thorny edge]

cuz u can..place better units for "little extra damage"

[worldly estuary]

For now, just keep listening to them and not mod thorns, which was your main question

[thorny edge]

think ur question was answered ya
unless u got more

[balmy moat]

I meane i just got told who to replace so i already know what to do now

[severe crypt]

We did it chat we #helped

[thorny edge]

good timeline

[balmy moat]

I was just explaining cause i got asked

[ancient lintel]

nah I feel like I lost some braincells after that

[thorny edge]

ok but thats every #help interaction

[teal elk]

ines dps can do around half a dogs hp maybe

[ancient lintel]

she can kill fodders ye, but definitely not elites, or not even those with like 700 DEF or more I think lol

[severe crypt]

Thing is you don’t wanna kill, else you lose out on dp

[wintry anvil]

been waiting for the top recruitment tag where is it

[tired wharf]

14th…

[ancient lintel]

next update

[pine plover]

#game-news message

[balmy moat]

Som peoples arent good at tower defense u just gotta accepy mane

[honest plinth]

can priestess be killed in 1 window she can take damage?

[ancient lintel]

uh afaik yes

[pine plover]

if anything, they are adding more way to do so

[ancient lintel]

just use something with super duper big DPH
like ulpi S3 for example

[pine plover]

or Zima2 s3

[honest plinth]

isn't zima...weak

[ancient lintel]

zima alt isnt

[pine plover]

zima the raging tide s3 has 100k total damage

[honest plinth]

she isn't even out is she?

[pine plover]

she is out in CN

[ancient lintel]

zima alt's kinda goated
I saw the stats on her s2 and I'm like yep, I'm getting her

[silent pendant]

are the weekly missions the only way to level up raidian or is there another way to do it

[ancient lintel]

just play IS6

[pine plover]

playing IS6 in general level her up

[severe crypt]

You’re mainly supposed to grind is6 to level her

[pine plover]

and it's also the only way to promote and train her skills

[silent pendant]

do you have to actually Use Her or na

[teal elk]

she can buff vanguards for epic siege bagpipe burst and saileach s3

[gentle dove]

Nah, just for the quests that require her to do so. But not for leveling

[silent pendant]

ic

[gentle dove]

But you do want to use her if built she's like the best option for is6

[silent pendant]

this might sound crazy but i don't think my lv6 raidian is cutting it yo

[ancient lintel]

she's broken in IS6 and okish outside of IS6

[severe crypt]

Just use the squad that gives max raidian

[gentle dove]

Just beat until dif 3 and use the squad that gives her to you at the beginning and you should be fine from there on

[thorny edge]

raidian is like
pretty decent in gen content tbh. she's not rly weak or anything.

[shadow bay]

i was told zima alt have synergy with nasti is that true???

[thorny edge]

everyone has synergy with nasti

[slim tusk]

vigil has synergy with nasti ril

[honest plinth]

what's cheapest dp laterano?

[slim tusk]

confess

[abstract mauve]

ye but people seem to shit on her

[silent pendant]

yes, she deals more damage when a wall is nearby

[timber finch]

isnt it cause summons uses deployment?

[slim tusk]

people also shit on ling and raidian is worse ling

[wanton meadow]

After pram2 s2m3 would you prio sash2 masteries or pram2 s3m3?

[abstract mauve]

raidian isnt worse than ling

[ancient lintel]

I mean blue woman is fine

[silent pendant]

that's the criticism of summoners in general but some can work around it (such as raidian and ling)

[abstract mauve]

ye and they cost an arm and a leg but they do the job. definitely better than 5*s you might have access to and quite a lot of 6* early on

[gusty river]

Sorry just a quick question, which skill should I M3 ray?

[timber finch]

yeah, tbh if raidian summons werent costing THAT much itd be nicer lol
but im using her rn in ep9 and its neat
(800x3)x3 burst hurts lol

[reef sparrow]

S3

[slim tusk]

raidian perform worse than ling outside of IS idk what to refute about
her s3 has okay dmg that's about it

[abstract mauve]

damn uhhh get your levels up. it's 1.5k x3 when maxxed

[honest plinth]

what's fasterst way to disarm Mimic machine

[timber finch]

im trying man i swear.. i just struggle to win ending1 alr lmao

[reef sparrow]

you kill it

[honest plinth]

no shit

[abstract mauve]

ye if you think s3 has the better damage between the two skills it screams you havent used raidian enough but ok

[timber finch]

whats s3 doin

[reef sparrow]

what's the question even tbh

[ancient lintel]

fr just kill the mimic machine with like trag or mon3tr

[abstract mauve]

decent arts damage drones with chain-link that's unique to them. they deal quite nice damage on skill but the skill cycle is a bit worse than s2

[wanton meadow]

The one usecase off the top of my head is cos the summon doesn't grow in dp cost, I'd use her over actual one of the frd for maps that require me to throw large numbers of bodies over time

[slim tusk]

what you want to argue
s2 squishy shit or 3 max deploy
radian doesn't come close to ling on low op for a reason

[reef sparrow]

am I missing some mechanics of mimic when you say "disarm"?

[timber finch]

oh pretty neat
would be useful if they also hit air then

[zinc fjord]

What Best tag to choose?

[abstract mauve]

im not arguing cuz you dont know how raidian works clearly

[honest plinth]

is there suzu? prob her tags
do you have nightingale?

[slim tusk]

ah yes best argument
then again this comes from cs simp

[reef sparrow]

what 6* do you have, tho it's most likely guaranteed ifrit tho

[zinc fjord]

I don't have them

[abstract mauve]

are you actually being serious 🥹

[timber finch]

btw my raidian is e1 80 sl1 lol, but yeah im trying to win is6 at some point

[ancient lintel]

they do

[zinc fjord]

I already have ifrit
And she is useless eh

[grave fulcrum]

Put those on krooster and see who you can get and compare to who you have

[reef sparrow]

gamble suzu then, you probably won't use her too much as well

[abstract mauve]

ye it would be quite nice to get her skill level up and e2. if you are able to you can use tragodia to cheese ed1 otherwise you can leave it to later

[honest plinth]

Nightingale probably will be better if you have no good 6 star medic
top op + healing
might wait for a few responces though

[timber finch]

trag alone lack dps with my trash nonsurviving teams sadly, need some rng for defense or edamage

[wanton meadow]

If you're lacking 6* medics you'd rather build smth like sussuro or silence

[abstract mauve]

for ed1 or for the rest of the run?

[zinc fjord]

I think haruka and mon3tr is enough
Unless some stage requires a nightingale?

[slim tusk]

ng is pretty niche atp,more niche than suzu

[timber finch]

ending boss specifically, im using trag spam + suicide squad spam
anything goes, summons, gravel, tankd

[honest plinth]

they should be enough

[wanton meadow]

Ng healing numbers suck in the 1st place

[slim tusk]

pure healing ptilo better

[reef sparrow]

I'd still take 50% suzu than 25% NG if both not owned

[honest plinth]

probably gamba suzuran if u don't have her then?

might wait for few answers though

[zinc fjord]

Alright thanks guys

[reef sparrow]

no need to wait smh

[abstract mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDLSsuIdT1w

[shadow bay]

youre welcome

[left tulip]

which is swire's alt best module btw? they both seem kinda interesting

[timber finch]

that's roughly what i do, but usually add raidian's summons, but it still summon drones to my left side squad at some point 😭
and one wave is enough to ruin all of it

[slim tusk]

you are doing something wrong then

[timber finch]

that was my lastest run
it ended cause everyone was dead and it leaked 😭

[abstract mauve]

usually since the boss has paralysis stacks on him it's easy to get back in position

[spare jetty]

IS mod

[slim tusk]

watch closely how the vid keep yi at upper line so the drone doesn't kill your bottom lane

[abstract mauve]

oh your issue is with left/right side

[timber finch]

i mean, check the screenshot i just sent, yi was at top and killed everyone

[timber finch]

nah, it's really precisely the drones, they spawned everywhere even tho the boss was at the very top line and it made me lose by redeploy
only tragodia had survived and didnt kill the red snakes

[slim tusk]

why is ptilo up there?

[timber finch]

to reinforce saria that was used as desesperate bait
or gravel maybe, whoever's there

[left tulip]

well for outside is

[ancient lintel]

ye you need someone tanky enough to just lock Yi at where he spawned

[formal shadow]

always X for merchant

[timber finch]

i really think yi just at some point spawn drones everywhere regardless of that strat at this point 🙏

[slim tusk]

with paralysis gravel is enough

[formal shadow]

false

[timber finch]

i mean, i can't explain it otherwise, it happened at each of my run to die that way

[ancient lintel]

uh you know drones do arts dmg right? Do you know how much res does hoshi2 gets when she's low on HP?

[left tulip]

fair enough although making her second talent way cheaper seems like it could have some cool applications

[timber finch]

i still don't have hoshi2 😭
i borrow the trag

[thorny edge]

unironically use raidian s1 for that stage

[spare jetty]

hoshi2 with meds can basically facetank yi

[thorny edge]

raidian s1 takes care of like 80% of the stage's issues, you can drop trag and just use raidian to lock yi and the flying bombs arent really an issue. use raidian s1 to guard ur valuable ops so they dont explode

[left tulip]

true

[timber finch]

i mean, on that one i had used beanstalk + gravel + raidian (s2 tho, forgot to switch to s1, but she stayed up still) and still got droned
that's my main issue tbh

[spare jetty]

use s2 to kill yi for like 1 run so u will he able to level up ur raidian skill

[slim tusk]

drone is relative to yi's position so you defo messed up somewhere

[left tulip]

thats a criteria for one of his levelups🥹 ?

[spare jetty]

*her

[thorny edge]

yes but you can do it on low diff and atp you can get enough relics for raidian s2 to basically spawn kill yi

[left tulip]

mb brain didnt brain

[timber finch]

all her skills are in tour 1, elite 2 is tour 2

[slim tusk]

killing yi is for proficiency and that one need guided tour 6+

[left tulip]

they said specifically kill yi with s2

[reef sparrow]

how easy to brute force max efficient IS6 compared to diff7 IS3

[timber finch]

wont have the dps
that was my first try

[spare jetty]

2 ops and ur win

[thorny edge]

yes but you can do it on low diff and atp you can get enough relics for raidian s2 to basically spawn kill yi

[reef sparrow]

can you name those 2 ops

[left tulip]

probably past a certain point radian can

[timber finch]

with some rng yeah

[spare jetty]

assuming u have quite reasonable amount of buffs from relics

[thorny edge]

its a roguelike

[timber finch]

currently im having the same project to buff trag & defenders with the same idea 🙏

[hidden nacelle]

how much does sahs dps compare to sash2
completely iugnoring util

[limpid yarrow]

💀

are we fr 💀
did we expect the vanguard to outdps a proper dps skill

[slim tusk]

lul

[raw wigeon]

e1 Raidian though... would still recommend Raidian S1 and do the Trag cat stall thing, or just get >30 lp and leak Yi

[timber finch]

honestly, that 30 lp idea is maybe one of the best i could do

[left tulip]

why are you failing the stall

[glossy pecan]

is this e1 only challenge?

[timber finch]

idk, i keep the boss at the furthest away, get droned, and everything goes to hell

[timber finch]

nah just didnt have luck on defender roll
was trying to get saria e2, rest is almost my general lv

[wanton meadow]

Try recording a run

[odd sky]

you can see the video example of raidian s1 trag stall in #is-station is6 guide

[glossy pecan]

not trying to be mean but what have you been doing for the past 5 floors...

[timber finch]

i mean yeah, that's what im trying to do at all my try 😭

[timber finch]

kroos etc elite 1 is my max

[limpid yarrow]

im sorry for doubting mr silverash
the vanguard might actually have crazy dps

[odd sky]

duration is pretty long yea

[limpid yarrow]

...the vanguard form has more total damage

[odd sky]

real? is that with another ops with the eye?

[tired wharf]

His S3 tho

[rocky pilot]

Just continue his bloodline and he'll forgive you

[limpid yarrow]

ya you have to count both eyes for sa2

but both eyes for sa2 is like 135k but SA1 is only like 80k total

[ancient lintel]

da fck?

[slim tusk]

which skill?

[ancient lintel]

aint no fckin way lol

[thorny edge]

you have to account for the fact that vg s3 lasts for five decades

[limpid yarrow]

skill that also has invis reveal fragile application and dp generation btw

[odd sky]

how's dps?

[cursive maple]

s3 waow

[limpid yarrow]

but also yea dps and dph both suck(its a vanguard after all)

[odd sky]

[thorny edge]

vigil has the highest vanguard dps in the game

[cursive maple]

mumu?

[tired wharf]

Will be fixed in 2027

[thorny edge]

mumu's dps isnt that high

[cursive maple]

vigil is higher?

[limpid yarrow]

3.5 typhons(2830)

[thorny edge]

vigil is like well over 3k

[light latch]

Are we assuming 5 ranged clones here

[cursive maple]

hmmmmmmmmm

[slim tusk]

vigil is like exu of vg
with the glaring issue wolf has zero range lol

[thorny edge]

not even the issue

[raw wigeon]

It's unironically a valid strat not that hard if you don't waste any candle in the bosky

[copper charm]

Hi chat. Who to e2 next?

[thorny edge]

he has shit dph so half the time he's dealing 43 damage per hit

[limpid yarrow]

ela
super big cup

[honest plinth]

hmmm

[cursive maple]

ela not raised
minus points

[timber finch]

i mean im not sure how ima get a lot of hp yet, but i did just get a new strat of mr boom
24s stun total

[cursive maple]

can you sort by rarity? also use krooster next time

[thorny edge]

raise ela?

[ancient lintel]

did you use monmon s3

[honest plinth]

yes

[cursive maple]

ela>narantuya>zuo>texas

[ancient lintel]

wait was that thing always that tanky?
did not remember it was that tanky ngl

[copper charm]

Will do. Is she that good? I find her mechanic for slowing down enemies. Havent checked what her E2 does tho

[honest plinth]

?????

[thorny edge]

she's one of the best ops in the game

[honest plinth]

Did you guys even remember the enemy in question

Mon3tr s3m3

[pale tapir]

ela is like top 10 op

[cursive maple]

global slow plus fragile and good damage

[copper charm]

Wow good to know. Thanks everyone

[limpid yarrow]

damage lowkey not enough in 2026
but unmatched utility

[ancient lintel]

ye you ask us how to kill mimic machine and I said mon3tr or e damage cause I recall it has a lot of DEF and RES

[honest plinth]

That was set up with debuff thing active, using 3 vanguards with -1 cost pots
and ethan

[slim tusk]

what's cooking

[cursive maple]

she still deals good damage if not great damage with today's standard

[thorny edge]

this actually makes her better cuz now ur not butthurt about trading ela damage for more mines. you can comfortably activate and deactivate her skill

[copper charm]

Fcking chatgpt recommended different ops. Should have asked chat first 😔😔

[ancient lintel]

bro used chatGPT lmao

[honest plinth]

Same question

How do I get rid off Mimic Machine fast in H15-4

[copper charm]

Cant believe I did haha it's shameful

[honest plinth]

Spent like 10 tries by trying Mon3tr set up recommended

[thorny edge]

gpt doesnt know how to play arknights bro

[severe crypt]

Idt bro knows how llms work

[abstract mauve]

maybe your llm isnt mythos tier

[thorny edge]

who have u got? its got 25k hp and 3k def and 75 res. so best bet is high dph physical damage or true

[thorny edge]

mythos will find a way to bypass anti cheat instead. it also doesnt know how to play arknights

[abstract mauve]

[severe crypt]

But it’ll straight up slime you tho

[abstract mauve]

point still stands if you had a better llm you'd win smh

[cinder hearth]

Bro knows from experience

[thorny edge]

arknights servers will get compromised, everyone gets free 5 mythozillion OP

[thorny edge]

no thats just what mythos was made to do dawg

[cursive maple]

is surtr high dph

[thorny edge]

surtr is arts damage, dph doesnt matter for arts damage

[formal shadow]

Truly worthwhile use of computational resources

[cursive maple]

waow

[thorny edge]

so ig the answer would be syntax error

[cursive maple]

what about coldshot? can i use her

[cinder hearth]

No

[formal shadow]

🥀

[abstract mauve]

damn

[cursive maple]

isnt she high dph 🥀

[slim tusk]

dph is measure how well phys dmg fare against def
arts just reduced by % so the calc is pretty straightforward

[cinder hearth]

She does do enough DpH iirc but the DpS is abysmal

[abstract mauve]

ye

[formal shadow]

Me when hunter sniper

[left tulip]

shileds is iris good i got her off you

[cursive maple]

what about quartz

[abstract mauve]

huh. how did you get her off me?

[cinder hearth]

Acc sharing, kill them

[thorny edge]

anything shileds uses prolly isnt great 💀
he plays welfares

[left tulip]

friend list

[abstract mauve]

oh wtf. why do i have iris there

[left tulip]

if you dont know...

[slim tusk]

iris is welfare of ave mujica ril

[formal shadow]

Ave mujica boss playable when

[honest plinth]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/zahoc

[abstract mauve]

uhhhh iris is ok for 5* standards. that's not a unit i would recommend basically

[eager totem]

teq doesnt want s2m3 right

[abstract mauve]

for normal account, no

[eager totem]

do i do it anyway for the welfare or save for someone else (the m3 ticket)

[ancient lintel]

Is CE good welfare wise?

[thorny edge]

use lemuen s3 on priestess and mon3tr for the mimic

[cursive maple]

wdym gladiia is great :joyplush:

[abstract mauve]

CE isnt considered a welfare

[ancient lintel]

[honest plinth]

eh

[abstract mauve]

she'd be good overall tho but would likely never be drafted for IS unless to buff kroos2 which would be funny

[formal shadow]

Welfareknights moment. Chapter release "welfares" aren't true welfares

[abstract mauve]

that's if she was allowed in the niche

[light latch]

Arbitrary rulesets moment

[reef sparrow]

sakiko can melt mimic also

[thorny edge]

you can use lemuen for the mimic and mon3tr for prts if you want

[slim tusk]

does mon3tr even reach on H stage?

[limpid yarrow]

she unironically gets drafted sometimes in is5
i think by speccast too 💀
who are a very desperate squad 💀

[abstract mauve]

i think that'd be better when you start playing the niche instead of just planning to. you dont need to have the entire roster to have fun anyway

[thorny edge]

if it doesnt just switch the roles ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive maple]

bad advice in help wiw

[abstract mauve]

i borrowed lemuen to brute force when i ran the stage

didnt have my own lemuen built at the time

[thorny edge]

lemuen so peak

[cursive maple]

wtf why are you using good unitd

[abstract mauve]

you ever wonder how i get my advice on meta units

[light latch]

For someone named hands why are your hands so bad at typing

[abstract mauve]

[cursive maple]

i cant type on mobile

[cursive maple]

ik you have other account to satisfy your meta needs

[honest plinth]

there are no close tiles for mon3tr to damage priestess?

[thorny edge]

then go with my original advice and use lemuen for prts and mon3tr for mimic

[ancient lintel]

Ye we all have 1 account that's full of metas and 1 troll account with the weirdest roster you can find

[honest plinth]

lemuen can't even focus

[thorny edge]

skill issue?

[reef sparrow]

lmao

[honest plinth]

I gave up on getting normal answer from help like 20 mins ago

[ancient lintel]

Just face her against da wall and mark priestess with like ambriel or adnachiel lol

[pale tapir]

just use franka for prts

[thorny edge]

?????? bro we cant win

[light latch]

Why do u need two accounts unless you’re playing some weirdass e1/e0 nicheknights

[reef sparrow]

it is normal advice, idk what you ranting about

[slim tusk]

what anser do you want?
mon3tr can down the machine,lemuen kill the prts
let her face the wall if you are that bad at positioning

[reef sparrow]

ig he wants handholding advice

[honest plinth]

was your first answer "Just kill it"?

[cinder hearth]

I'll take relationship advice too

[ancient lintel]

I mean ye just kill it, we give you 177013 ways to kill it

[reef sparrow]

what else do you want me to? your question is how to disable mimic?

[fossil horizon]

Guys when?? Was the vermeil skin icebreaker game? How did i miss an entire event

[ancient lintel]

IBG #1

[formal shadow]

There's nothing special about ch15-4's mechanic

[fossil horizon]

Isn't #1 the one w the robot skin?

[ancient lintel]

Which was like last year's october or somethin

[formal shadow]

It's hit big number and kill or do it in a few cycles

[thorny edge]

then bro asked who to use to kill the mimic so i said you can use lemuen and mon3tr
i added that you can switch the two roles if for some reason bro didnt want mon3tr to kill mimic. and now bro's complaining

[balmy moat]

Da team i make wit yours advice

[reef sparrow]

I even suggested sakiko for mimic but I doubt he even try it cuz it's my advice

[formal shadow]

There isn't a ground tile next to prts in h15-4 as far as I remember

[thorny edge]

go give it levels

[slim tusk]

does sutr even do anythign in that team

[pale tapir]

oh this is H15-4 not 15-20 oopsie
then yeah same thing lemon monmon
or ray if you're based

[balmy moat]

I getting rocks

[ancient lintel]

Looks gud ye, invest some stuff into surtr first lol

[honest plinth]

go use mon3tr to kill prts with no close tiles, yeah thanks I guess?

[ancient lintel]

Ewww bnuy user

[pale tapir]

use monmon to kill mimic

[reef sparrow]

maybe use your sometimes yeah

[thorny edge]

if you recall the first thing i recommended was "lemuen for prts and mon3tr for mimic"
to which you replied "eh"

[formal shadow]

Mimic isn't particularly tanky

[reef sparrow]

it has same Def and res as prts

[slender cloud]

will the top operator have kaltsit?

[honest plinth]

Asking for things that can be done in game is bare minimum

[timber finch]

if you're lucky, yea

[balmy moat]

I need 60 rocks

[reef sparrow]

so you really want handholding eh

[slender cloud]

so i need luck to get summon eh

[timber finch]

basically
hoping for it too ngl

[ancient lintel]

She'll be in the recruit pool yep, you gotta get them tags tho

Top + medic + summon I think? Cant remember

[timber finch]

is there a top summon other?
genuine question btw

[slim tusk]

old hag to+summon is enough

[reef sparrow]

bro left the server lmfao

[ancient lintel]

Kal alter in 2030 trust

[honest plinth]

why do you keep replying to me? get a hint?

[ancient lintel]

Wdym?

[pale tapir]

I'm confused what are they struggling with?
they should be ok now right?

[timber finch]

like another operator with top+summon

[slim tusk]

no

[reef sparrow]

ye ye, I know, you can rant somewhere else

[ancient lintel]

Yes
Magallan I think

[honest plinth]

you are the one escalating?

[timber finch]

ah dang it

[slim tusk]

only kal has summon tags for top

[formal shadow]

Nah this is all on you

[pale tapir]

I thought maggie doesn't have summon tag

[thorny edge]

atp idk
they wanted to kill the mimic fast so i told them to use lemuen for priestess and mon3tr for mimic and they're whining like a 6 year old abt it

[ancient lintel]

He struggled with PRTS and the mimic machine in H15-4, he posted his roster, we advised that he use lemon for source code, monmon for mimic machine, and things should end there, but unfortunately, it didnt

[reef sparrow]

bro got most ops to kill it but still struggle even when given advices

[honest plinth]

I have no idea why this child keeps trying to ragebait me

[reef sparrow]

you already blocked me, why bother opening my chats

[honest plinth]

not sure if it's open invitation on getting more dirt?

[reef sparrow]

and I'm giving you proper advice here, you're just hard headed and can't even understand how your ops work

[formal shadow]

Bro...

[ancient lintel]

I mean I dont remember but maggie's a summoner, so immediately I think she has summon tag lol

[timber finch]

click s2 better right?
(generally)

[slim tusk]

maggie doesn't have summon tag

[timber finch]

yey more little chance to get kalstit

[slim tusk]

top+summon is 100% kal

[ancient lintel]

I'm officially subscribed to dementia+ then

[timber finch]

yeah but summon is rare iirc
atleast its not summon/heal

[light latch]

Magallan not being a summoner is wild

[balmy moat]

Whats a good healer other than monster

[timber finch]

haruka

[lyric lagoon]

and then medic + top op is 1/3 chance to give kaltsit, she has some pretty good pools

[ancient lintel]

Haruka, eyjafialla the I'm not saying allat, etc

[thorny edge]

who do you have? or did you just want to know

[timber finch]

tbh as long as it's not shining id be happy as a useage
if it's shining.. well she looks good atleast i guess

[slim tusk]

she has good skin

[ancient lintel]

You'll like her if you have her coral coast skin

[balmy moat]

Monster lumen and ptilopsis i want a second healer other than ptil or lumen

[lyric lagoon]

shining alter never coming atp

[timber finch]

i saw it lol, that's also part of why i say that
tbh shining > gavial

[spare jetty]

the best healer aren't even a medic either

[thorny edge]

right and that would be haruka

[balmy moat]

Whens her rerun

[ancient lintel]

I mean she has that niche of turning nian or hoshi into "the wall", but I guess haruka took it away from her in some way

[lyric lagoon]

who's even using gavial in the first place

[timber finch]

cough cough i wonder
totally didnt e2 80 her without knowing

[thorny edge]

haruka turns everyone into "the walls"
haruka is like the founding titan the way she makes walls out of operators

[formal shadow]

:clueless:

[slim tusk]

gavial good in surtr hospital ril

[lyric lagoon]

the niche that can fulfilled by the sankta blender alone

[spare jetty]

1 year for haruka to show up on standard banners
2 years for her in cert shop

[light latch]

Limited banners dont rerun i think

[ancient lintel]

Unfortunately, she doesnt
You can only offrate her or wait for joint/orienteering banners that has her featured as a rate up

[balmy moat]

Its okay, with my luck ill just off banner her like what i did with mylnar and ines

[timber finch]

if only i had 4 more good medics

[wanton meadow]

Gavial is actually important for 4* knights apparently cos she has the highest sustained heal per second amongst all of them, so gavial would be the main choice for tanking sustained high dps

[timber finch]

isnt sussuro better at that

[ancient lintel]

Aight dawg get yo a$$ to #salt-mines

[lyric lagoon]

atp we gonna get every alter including kaltsit alter before shining and mostima alter 🥀

[wanton meadow]

Sussuro is a significantly better burst healer, but gavial has higher sustained heal per second

[slim tusk]

depends
if the tank would often goes below 50%,gav can be better

[turbid ocean]

@reef sparrow @honest plinth This isn't the place to complain or argue
If you think someone is trolling you can DM or ping a mod

[timber finch]

fair

[spare jetty]

how is kal getting an alter when she exploded

[cinder hearth]

Larp larp larp sahur

[ancient lintel]

Cocaine bear proved that sometimes you need to pair haruka with a wall tho

[lyric lagoon]

bro needs to visit #ak-lore

[subtle dawn]

Should I use my 4 star and 5 star skill training pack on my myrtle and specter?

[thorny edge]

imma be real that boss was overhyped to shit

[ancient lintel]

For the 4* thingy use it on ethan

[timber finch]

i wouldnt boost myrtle with it
sash2 is happening soon, and better 4*

[pale tapir]

no why is your myrtle e2 (based)
save it for ethan s2 or something

is sussy's outfit collab limited? like will it ever return

[thorny edge]

use haruka s3 and like anyone can tank the bear 💤

[ancient lintel]

Sussuro's? Ye it's cross over iirc

[subtle dawn]

Oh you can only use it on e2 ops? My myrtle is e1

[spare jetty]

deadass channel