help

[radiant wyvern]

bla alter

[hoary ruin]

S3.

[buoyant sigil]

Wait a second if on limited banners only one op is limited and the next limited has sa2 and pram2, does that mean pram2 is standard

[hoary ruin]

Yes. Similar to how Haruka was introduced on Hoshi2 banner but is a standard op.

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh, good good

[raven ermine]

Yes, pram2 will end up in shop 2 year-ish after, can appear on banners like standard/JO/orient
But she won't have a rerun banner like other standard debuts

[radiant wyvern]

Is pram2 even usable without sa2 healing talent

[raven ermine]

Erm why wouldn't she be ?

[severe crypt]

She solos stages. Solos

[hoary ruin]

If she was dependant on another OP to be usable, I don't think people would be recommending her tbh.

[radiant wyvern]

oh wait she has revive talent nvm

[raven ermine]

Nah but even without that
You can run logos and no one is giving him 3% regen
Idt you realize how little that is in the first place

[bright lake]

can anybody pls confirm?

and no

[modern gust]

So I started the reclamation algo but I ran out of food am I softlocked or something

[radiant wyvern]

Umm it does not look as blue as the other medal

[radiant wyvern]

no you can just skip days on peaceful mode

and prevent raids i think

[formal shadow]

Wiki.gg L doesn't have squad medals in IS tab as far as I could see

Oh wait it's in the ending section

[formal shadow]

Special ed1 is d12 medal

[zinc storm]

does narantuya's talent hitrate reduction stack with ascalon's s3?

[abstract mauve]

it has them on the endings part

[radiant wyvern]

so pretty blue

[undone portal]

3%/sec isnt very much hp at all when its on a caster, even a phalanx

[radiant wyvern]

i like to put phalanx in middle of enemy group need sustain

[left tulip]

hows typhon btw

[formal shadow]

Have you heard of medics? :roswao:

[abstract mauve]

then sustain her

[abstract mauve]

capital M Mid. fine to build if you have her and like afk tho

[raven ermine]

Sustain is definitely NOT 61 hps

[undone portal]

silveralt being pramalts personal medic is a nice bonus, not something pramalt requires to be good

[spare jetty]

just bring a medic dammit

[undone portal]

'medic' in huge quotes. youd get similar results from fielding angelina

[left tulip]

from u-official's healing passive!

[chrome tiger]

actor’s perfume gaming

[undone portal]

sash/pram synergys main draw is making sure pram doesnt freeze herself if you accidentally let her die

[abstract mauve]

fire relic. found out that it heals summons the other day. i've been walking with a spring in my step since

[undone portal]

i love actors perfume
unless im running mon3tr in which case run bricked

[hoary ruin]

"Freeze herself" ..... huh?

[abstract mauve]

yessir

[undone portal]

pramalt inflicts freeze on herself for a few seconds when she procs her revive talent
silveralt talent gives kjerag ops freeze immunity

[spare jetty]

it bricked my m3

[hoary ruin]

Huh. Interesting.

[undone portal]

fr tho actors perfume doesnt brick mon3tr if you just draft a geek

[chrome tiger]

stop adding weird pheromones to it

[undone portal]

chain medic/geek tech truly never dies

[opaque remnant]

I got this, why do all the options look kind of ass?

[gloomy fossil]

Is it worth going for pamanix alt or silver ash alt on the next banner with this on my loadout?

[undone portal]

@abstract mauve since youre here what are your thoughts on ukusik talent making herself her own mon3tr reconstruct is kinda cool

[limpid yarrow]

pool basically hasn't been updated since it first came out

[raven ermine]

because they are
I would go support and pray for suzu/mosti/ng

[opaque remnant]

Kalt’sit should’ve come to the recruitment pool sooner…

[spare jetty]

keep coping

[opaque remnant]

Would it better to go for saria dupe for the gold cert or a new op

[abstract mauve]

actually looks like a pretty cool medic. thing is i still worry about their cycle. i pray they make their sp cost like 30 or below

[undone portal]

30s cycle camouflage applier would go very hard

[severe crypt]

80 sp or bust

[abstract mauve]

kermit mentioned potential use in is3ed4 but that still depends on her cycle not being absolute dogshit

[raven ermine]

If you're missing ng/suzu/mosti i'd take the 3/8 over the certs, but if you value 10 certs more than them that's a decent option

[left tulip]

why does sash change anything in it?

[raven ermine]

Read his talent 2

[abstract mauve]

camo when needed on ranged tile with no extremely stupid requirement like 4 adjacent tiles sounds huge

[wanton meadow]

Uh can cuora tank h16-2

And if she does, does she need masteries

[gloomy fossil]

Oh & what units would people recommend? I’m thinking of getting blue poison for the sake of a new marksman

[raven ermine]

sash2 btw, not guard sash

[opaque remnant]

Something tells me they’re kinda ass

[gloomy fossil]

And i like blue poison in general

[undone portal]

i imagine they would have to leave ukusiks numbers entirely raw to not make her a straight heavyrain upgrade

[limpid yarrow]

WE all like blue poison

[abstract mauve]

how could you tell

[radiant wyvern]

Is it a bear stage

[opaque remnant]

Who the fuck uses shining in the first place

[wanton meadow]

Yes it's the extreme bear

[raven ermine]

Ardanis

[abstract mauve]

i think they intend her to be a straight upgrade but ye ill wait for the sp costs

[static glade]

I saw someone clear it with just Crown Slayer and Sankta Mik

[shadow bay]

can we actually say shining is the best def buffer???

[left tulip]

yo btw unless indicated otherwise skins rerun in the shop right?

[abstract mauve]

that's 16-12

[boreal steeple]

Bear has extreme cases of ppl trying to stall everything with bricking

[radiant wyvern]

oh no she cant because my hoshi pot5 mod3 died to it with shining heals

[undone portal]

give it a bit, skadialt 2nd mod might just powercreep her

[static glade]

Oh I see

[wanton meadow]

I'm thinking with haruka ofc

[shadow bay]

grrr now u make me remember to spark her to have another AH buffer

[abstract mauve]

unless collab or paid skins, they rerun in shop naturally. paid skins when HG feels like it. collab when they collab again

[gloomy fossil]

What units would one recommend me getting? (I dont use mountain or nightingale in my team btw)

[radiant wyvern]

i dont have haruka hmm goodluck

[wanton meadow]

She doesn't have to permanently tank the bear, just as long as she stalls the bear enough past phase 1

[raven ermine]

If you play AH you're contractually obligated to bench her

[left tulip]

paid skins are the ones indicated by "promotion" right?

[abstract mauve]

i meant more like that one kaltsit skin, exusiai skin, or that one chen skins. not sure what you mean by promotion

[radiant wyvern]

just bring a stun character to stall some attacks like project red or crownslayer

[buoyant sigil]

Skadi2 doesn’t count as an abyssal hunter iirc because the whole bard thing is a disguise in lore

[undone portal]

i imagine the bear becomes a lot less scary with atk debuffs
time to shill tinman s1

[left tulip]

whats indicated in the skin catalog

[raven ermine]

smth smth ishar'mla smth smth

[buoyant sigil]

also that

[wanton meadow]

I tried to take a support hoshi + shamare s2 and it blew thru the hoshi (granted no sanctuary)

[shadow bay]

nope

ill use her to buff AH futher

[boreal steeple]

I did 5 ops without stuns, but slow instead (e1 max no 6☆), so it's just silence or stun

[undone portal]

point is, skadialt 2nd mod is soon and is confirmed to have 30 phys/arts dmg reduction in base effect and add def to her atk boost talent. shining competitor incoming

[raven ermine]

aak

[left tulip]

i dont know balls abt the new mods ill go peep tmrw

[wanton meadow]

Wait what? She gets 30/30 sanctuary???

[raven ermine]

30 flat 🤮

[shadow bay]

also im interested if surtr mod will be better to her current one

[wraith sentinel]

Flat reduction unfortunately.

[undone portal]

not % sanctuary, - flat 🥹

[wanton meadow]

Oh 30 flat

[boreal steeple]

Truly mephisto bird counter

[steep goblet]

Whici side story gives decent caster that worth raising?

[undone portal]

and its only onskill 🥹

[raven ermine]

Really doesn't seem better to me at least
Might depend on the aspd/immortality numbers, but ts looks ass

[wanton meadow]

Wooooow

[radiant wyvern]

i think the new surtr mod is only good for 1v1s

[left tulip]

i did wis only as i have to + random stuff with range as safety fodder

[shadow bay]

that arts fragile will be something trust

[boreal steeple]

Her s3 is aoe

[undone portal]

consider just picking up raidian from is6 and using her

[proven kelp]

They have this label "Obtain from Special Pack"

[raven ermine]

It's 10%
Her current mod already gives her 20-ish% dmg increase at mod2

[steep goblet]

Then Whici side story should i do now

[limpid yarrow]

its also surtr and hopefully you can save the mod blocks for someone like hoshi2 when she gets her module

[raven ermine]

Well yeah that too

[undone portal]

the best non-raidian welfare arts dps is uhh.. kjera? idk
either way a single raidian s3 plane significantly outdamages her

make sure you have tequila/kroosalt/ceylon/bryophyta. from there just get whoever interests you

[steep goblet]

Im missing ceylon only i think

[left tulip]

the best thing i got out of ceylon side story was just the sanity free op lol

[wraith sentinel]

Isn't Lumen a better pick than Ceylon?

[raven ermine]

Works great for modules requirement too

[undone portal]

ceylon is for base

[wanton meadow]

Ceylon is a base op

[wraith sentinel]

Ah.

[gloomy fossil]

Go to bed it’s 1am for you

[wraith sentinel]

Smh.

[undone portal]

timezone doxxed wtfart

[left tulip]

you mean the stages?

[wraith sentinel]

(Also it's 2 AM here because DST.)

[radiant wyvern]

arts fragile doesnt seem to affect those not block by her so its waste.

[abstract mauve]

kjera is kinda ass imo. id go with anyone between astgenne tinman umiri or gladiia before considering kjera for arts dps. you also get astgenne2 very soon

[raven ermine]

Yep, they're free, so when you need to deal like 100k damage with an operator for module requirement, you just go to OF stages, clear them a few times, and you're done

[abstract mauve]

when you start considering kjera, you also start thinking that you are playing a stage the wrong way. maybe coldshot valarqvin or even shalem could be better here

[steep goblet]

I still have one more event crystal

[undone portal]

fair enough. i might be overvaluing freeze chance

[gloomy fossil]

Sleep bro

[wraith sentinel]

Says the woke pigeon.

[static glade]

Freeze is temporary, binds are forever

[abstract mauve]

havent found her freeze that useful myself. i would do so much to have santalla over her

[undone portal]

i meant more for the res debuffing angle, but thinking on it if you want an accessible hybrid arts dps + res debuffer i think thats what haze is for

[steep goblet]

Ngl i might just use my last event crystal on path of life he looks cool

[abstract mauve]

ye that's where i start to consider shalem

new mod means shalem will be used a lot more since it buffs his res shred waaaay more

[proven kelp]

That's the guy on is2 right?

[limpid yarrow]

all three shalem fans rejoice

[wraith sentinel]

That reminds me, I still need to do the medal for Shalem clears...

[formal shadow]

I don't even have the is3 medal for using highmore

[abstract mauve]

naaa but like they've been doing this trend with welfare mods of "double it and give it to the next person"

[static glade]

Do you guys know how long will events be rerun again in intermezzi

[severe crypt]

*2.5 fans

[dark ridge]

I'm trying to do all the stages in iCebreaker. So I want to host a game but hosting a game, will someone join in eventually or do i need to go somewhere else?

[hoary ruin]

I believe you have to manually invite someone to a private Icebreaker room. You can post the room invite code in #icebreaker-lockers

[candid badger]

#icebreaker-lockers if you make your own room

[wanton meadow]

Should i s2 m3 cuora?

[wraith sentinel]

Generally overkill.

[wanton meadow]

I mean i wouldn't be using a brick unless it's overkill damage like the bear

[median arch]

so as someone who didn't pick sultr when i started playing, is it worth to try and pull her for in the upcoming banner? (3ish month old account)

[wraith sentinel]

I wouldn't, there are better options these days to pull for.

[slender temple]

Surtr? Absolutely no

[proven kelp]

Surtr? Lmao no

[wraith sentinel]

If you really like her though she's definitely usable.

[wanton meadow]

Ok so sl7 modx3?

[hoary ruin]

No banner currently running is worth your pulls with the upcomming limited banner on the horizon. Save all your pulls.

[median arch]

thanks peeps ill just keep saving for limited

[raven ermine]

Didn't see anyone mention it, so
Surtr is kernel
Pulling kernel is a big no no

[hoary ruin]

Yeah true, that makes going for her twice as bad of an idea.

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, also remember for enemies like the bear you only get the extra Defense if she's actually blocking them.

[wanton meadow]

Yep gotcha

[winter crystal]

With mod funny 2k armor (or close)

[wraith sentinel]

Still evaporated against Mechanist sadly.

[abstract mauve]

off-skill she'd just need a healer

[undone portal]

even nian folds to mechanist

[abstract mauve]

i dont remember exact specifics for mechanist tho. he's like 2k dph or smthn

i remember bison fairing a bit better than sankta miksa when helidrop so in that ballpark of defense should be at least decent me think

[dusty lagoon]

Chat, am a brand new 6 day old account and I've got a bunch of stuff to recruit operators directly. Which ones do I get from the following:

• Silence, Liskarm, Pramanix, Projekt Red
• Blaze, Exusial, Silverash, Saria, Mountain, Thorns
• Any 5 star operator

[wraith sentinel]

Did you do your beginner banner pulls yet?

[dusty lagoon]

Mhm, used them up

[abstract mauve]

who'd you get?

[hoary ruin]

The pins have recommendations on who you should get with your vouchers and what not.

[winter crystal]

Silver ash I’m assuming this is the beginner 6 star selector ticket

[dusty lagoon]

Yep yep

[abstract mauve]

then ye silverash. both silverash and thorns would really like e2 in the long run tho

[winter crystal]

the rest are in the beginner pins channel

just raise silver for now and get hopefully a better 6 star then thorns in the sash alt banner

[raven ermine]

why is everyone lv20 🪴

[dusty lagoon]

Which one is that channel again? I don't see a chat labeled

[wraith sentinel]

(Or save the vouchers until you're missing just one option.)

[hidden wolf]

When is jp stream

[dusty lagoon]

There's a bunch more, they're at like level 1

[potent tartan]

They meant in the pins in this channel

[winter crystal]

there is a tab in this channel for pins look there mb i shouldve said help channel

[hidden wolf]

U wasted your pulls. Thorn and jessica are trash

[spare jetty]

pretty mid

[potent tartan]

bruh he justv started

[wraith sentinel]

Hard to waste pulls on the beginner banner...

[potent tartan]

Like saying that isnt helping him

[spare jetty]

reroll on limited banner which is pretty near or cope with it

[dusty lagoon]

I only did 20 pulls...

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah that's fine.

Not like Jessica is bad, even if she isn't top of the meta.

[hoary ruin]

And scroll down

[winter crystal]

not the end of the world

[spare jetty]

though its much better to reroll

[dusty lagoon]

If i do, who should I aim for? Or is that in the pins too

[wraith sentinel]

Rerolling is cope, live with the consequence of your actions.

[buoyant sigil]

Despite everything I do feel like you can gather pulls for the limited, uh, just farm a bunch and you’re proooobably good
Though yes rerolling when the limited comes out does give you a better start
-# carmen jumpscare oh my god

[dusty lagoon]

Ngl this is my second gacha game ever so idek how to reroll an account-

[wraith sentinel]

To be serious, both alters for SilverAsh and Pramanix are great. If you're really lucky you'd also get some limited spooks from previous limited banners.

[hidden wolf]

When is jp Livestream

[buoyant sigil]

There’s a guide on Roadless Camelot doc in pins under the category “Reroll” if you ever need it

[potent tartan]

i wouldnt recommend rerolling unless youre bored out of your mind and have the spare time
But if you do, Lemuen is the best one on rate up rn

[raven ermine]

There should be a guide in pins, in roadless camelot
Both lemuen and narantuya are decent reroll targets

[buoyant sigil]

The 8th iirc

Going by jp timezone tho so depending on where you are the 7th

Curious does tragcat have an hp stat and can it die

[wraith sentinel]

Probably has a placeholder stat but it can't be attacked or damaged.

[buoyant sigil]

Interesting, it’s just that good

[wraith sentinel]

The redeployment timer also starts when deployed and not after exploding if I recall correctly.

[hidden wolf]

What time

[buoyant sigil]

Oh wow

[lament loom]

U can just simply Trag cat and retreat it intentionally

[buoyant sigil]

So does it just explode midway thru or

[lament loom]

Good for reaching enemies that can't be lured

[hidden wolf]

Do we get code from livestream

[coarse notch]

no

[wraith sentinel]

Explodes when retreated, mm.

[coarse notch]

any codes will be in pins here

[lament loom]

Explodes when enemies touches the cat by Lure, or manual retreat, or has fixed time before exploding

[buoyant sigil]

Oh wow

[wraith sentinel]

Very broken.

[lament loom]

Trag Cat in IS6:

[buoyant sigil]

Trag really is just that good huh is there even any unit that’s more broken/more utility

[wraith sentinel]

Exusiai the New Covenant is comparable I suppose, especially with her S3.

[lament loom]

Uhhh

[hoary ruin]

Nope, Trag is the best if you need to stall something. No contest really.

[buoyant sigil]

oh my god what the hell

[hoary ruin]

This with that -65% RDT coin I keep hearing about?

[lament loom]

In terms of utility, yes Trag s2 for stalling, then probably Haruka s2 with Sanctuary bubbles and explosive arts dmg. Or Hoshi2 with soaking dmg in 3x3 area and immortality passive.

In terms of damage, Wisadel s3 and Exu2 s2 exists.

[buoyant sigil]

Insane honestly

[lament loom]

Mmm yea lmao, cuz Trag cat technically has longer cooldown than the video I posted wih redeployment time relics.

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah it’s just no contest at all for literally any other staller

[limpid yarrow]

its a cat on a 25 second cd that lures for 10 seconds, takes 10 seconds to walk back(on top of a 6s slow)
its a 25 second summon that has cc for 24.8 of them

[wraith sentinel]

Hoshiguma plus Exusiai is always funny.

[limpid yarrow]

and somehow not his best skill for high end given that his s3 is the single highest peak of stall in the game

(until they make anti paralysis enemies or whatever)

[wraith sentinel]

Especially with Leizi it is kinda crazy.

[buoyant sigil]

Troublesome situation for the other staller ops when you can just say “trag exists” and completely disregard any possible competition

[limpid yarrow]

its at the point where every other cc operator is only considered as "a way to patch up the downtime between trag skills"

[buoyant sigil]

Crazy

[wraith sentinel]

It's kinda funny that he's the only Operator I've ever borrowed (only for Contingency Contract though).

[buoyant sigil]

I knew he was good but this is genuinely insanity

[hoary ruin]

Yeah....they made a mistake by making his S2's CD so low lol

[buoyant sigil]

phantom had the comeback of the century huh

wait theyre the same person right. I didn’t touch on the lore yet but it at least looks like so/I’ve heard as much

[limpid yarrow]

tbh original phantom still sees high end use sometimes(older IS and still has a dream of cc)

[true summit]

Can someone help me calc, i have 22295 orundum, 609 ori shard, 628 ori rock, 5 ticket. How much pull do i have rn ?

[limpid yarrow]

if you skip over a bunch of asterisks yeah

[lament loom]

Trag cat s2 is like 7 secs or smthing

[haughty silo]

is outfit like wisadel outfit will eventually rerun back in the shop?

okay thanks for the reaction

[lament loom]

Obviously with IS relics, u can modify Trag cat's redeployment time and summon DP cost

[buoyant sigil]

So trag is basically phantom2, skipping over the asterisks

[wraith sentinel]

25 seconds, not that short. Still absurd though for the value.

[shadow bay]

600 = 1 pull
1 shard = 20
1 shard need 2 rocks and 1.6k LMD for 3 hrs

[candid badger]

28699/600 + 5 = 51 pull

[shadow bay]

he also want u to see how much pulls he can get thru AO farming

[buoyant sigil]

It’s 3 weekly pulls from annihilation so

1800 weekly orundum = 3 pulls
So would depend on how much weeks we thinking

[shadow bay]

although must be desperate.... plunging to AO while only having 600 rocks

[shadow bay]

AO, not anni

[buoyant sigil]

They might have more

[chrome epoch]

is it worth getting skadi alter from 200 spark? i dont have any alters cause i started like 4 months ago and didnt get hoshi2

[buoyant sigil]

Oh no no I was just bringing up how they also have to factor in 3 weekly pulls for the total sum

[humble nova]

whats considered a wild beast

[true summit]

Will virtuos exchangable at 200 roll?

[shadow bay]

sparking is never worth unless u just want the unit badly

or ig ur just deep to actually consider spark coz why not

[humble nova]

like anything that isnt humanoid?

[wraith sentinel]

You can check in the ingame Enemy Archive. There's a filter for enemy types.

[humble nova]

@ancient current do you think grain buds is good?

[shadow bay]

yeh somewhere in near 2030 unless they hasten it up

[formal shadow]

Wild beasts are the RA animals

[wraith sentinel]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Wild_Beast

[humble nova]

ahhh..

[true summit]

How many ticket can we get from yellow cert ?

[shadow bay]

okay nvm its the RA peeps... time to shade away 🥹

[rain forge]

38

[wraith sentinel]

38 for 258 Distinctions.

[humble nova]

when was grain buds skin released? I cant find the info

[rain forge]

Check wiki

[wraith sentinel]

Path of Life.

[humble nova]

I did, lemme check again tho

[chrome epoch]

but on the off chance that my luck tilts that badly she should be the better choice right

[wraith sentinel]

At the bottom in the Changelog.

[chilly granite]

Does anyone have an image of future banners? I thought it was in pins, but I can’t find it.

[humble nova]

it released in 2024, has it ever rerunned ever since?

[hoary ruin]

It's inside Roadless Camelot fyi, was converted to a spreadsheet tab for because it's easier to update that way.

[buoyant sigil]

Roadless Camelot doc in pins (Upcoming banners section) or /cnbanner in #bot-spam usually works

[shadow bay]

u still have rosmo for IS shenanigans

iirc by that time nearl alter should be 200 spark, which also still a neat deploy unit that ignore dep limit... and a true dmg access if that's something for idk who would be....

[chilly granite]

Ohh. Tyty!

[rain forge]

When’s the stream for JP

[tiny chasm]

pick your favorite and go honestly... but the unit that will probably see the most sunlight is rosemontis js cus of IS

[coarse notch]

200 spark prio is ros > ntrk > skalter > w

[chrome epoch]

ntr's a helidrop? ooh thats cool

[shadow bay]

list still underwhelming but ehh thats that... peeps would mostly lean to rosmo in case someone would actually spark for 200 token units..

[humble nova]

isn it suppose to be today or 8th?

[slim tusk]

washed helidrop

[rain forge]

im asking for the exact time

[shadow bay]

neat should be what im imagining atleast on practice

[buoyant sigil]

Ntr?

[coarse notch]

nearl the radiant knight

[shadow bay]

yeh that ntr

nearl the radiant knight

[tiny chasm]

nearl the radiant knight

[lament loom]

Nearl The Radiant Knight (ntrk)

Nearl Alter basically

[coarse notch]

something something ntrk vgg congestion hedge

[tiny chasm]

nearl 2 ⛈️

[slim tusk]

after ros it's more like for collection hodge podge

[shadow bay]

don't forget the ignore deploy limit

[buoyant sigil]

Never sparked and probably never will but can you spark people that aren’t 200 pulls for a higher value

[shadow bay]

giving grace to that minute detail coz why not

[wraith sentinel]

I wish I had the pulls to spark her, but unfortunately need to save three hundred for Shu.

[buoyant sigil]

Rice queen!

[rain forge]

does anyone know the exact time for the JP stream

[hoary ruin]

I'm not sure what you mean. Previous limiteds cost either 200 spark or 300 spark.

[shadow bay]

i only know in my time zone

but thats 7pm for me, gmt +8

[buoyant sigil]

Ohh, yeah I was asking that. Uh, sorry for the lack of clarity, I don’t know my way around sparking exactly because it’s not something the average player will do

[sleek finch]

literally just google it https://www.youtube.com/live/LYgbSKfulDU?si=1iyPsU1Gh10VEX1Z

[wide knot]

Hey I wanna know if my progress is alright or slow based on the pic

[shadow bay]

thanks for googling it for me chisa...

[candid badger]

<t:1775646000:F>
should be this time

[winter crystal]

Lumen E2 when your logos is E1

[random shard]

Poor base

[tiny chasm]

siege builder 0-0 and mostima on a freshie account

[shadow bay]

how ur base?

[wide knot]

Cant e2 at the moment

[winter crystal]

Is that s1 on your sakiko?

[slender temple]

There's also the 5* feathered in the banner that can be bought with 75 spark tokens, just in case you only pulled between 75-150 and you want some gold cert back

[hoary ruin]

Each pull you do on limited banner gets you one spark.

I dunno how old a limited needs to be but once old enough the unit will become sparkable for 200, and removed from the offrate pool if very old.

Other offrates will cost 300.

[wide knot]

Wait let me take a pic

[wide knot]

Its s3

[winter crystal]

Ideally you don’t want to have invested resources in these ops

[wide knot]

Why thorns and lumen?

[slender temple]

Because they're not allat good

[wraith sentinel]

Sakiko is better than Thorns in the same role.

[wide knot]

A tally trying to e2 tank just need money

[shadow bay]

243 huh...

would suggest following a 252 base guide, and while at it also invest to base slaves

[wide knot]

Eh I like thorns anyways I think he looks cool

[wraith sentinel]

Fair enough, always a valid reason.

[wide knot]

Base slaves?

[shadow bay]

also he have a near maxed right base

[slender temple]

Well, we give advice base on practical use not that, so take it however you like

[wanton meadow]

Near 2k def + 30% sanctuary should tank the h16-2 bear phase 1 assuming enough healers right?

[winter crystal]

You might use S3 (like you should) but your default is S1 in the picture. This is S3 logo

[shadow bay]

units u raised mostly to work solely in base

we have cheap ones... should have a list on pins here or #bot-spam .. u should start with them first

[wanton meadow]

Surely it tanks phase 1 enough to stall it out

[wraith sentinel]

Depending on where the Sanctuary is coming from you won't need too many healers, yeah.

[wanton meadow]

It's haruka

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah then just one or two additional healers.

[wide knot]

Nah I appreciate its just sakiko sometimes is not enough

[abstract mauve]

how much sp regen is needed for nymph perma stall?

[wide knot]

I use dakikos s2 for the pierce

[wraith sentinel]

Though be careful that she doesn't get sniped in phase 2 if her damage contribution is too high.

[wide knot]

Thanks

[wanton meadow]

Surely it'll be fine, I'm pretty sure I've seen people tank phase 2 with ulpianus

[slender temple]

Sakiko S3 summons both the piercing note and the art one

[hoary ruin]

Pierce is unique to the S2, but S3 makes twice as many notes so the loss of pierce really doesn't matter.

[wide knot]

Yeah but most of the time I only need the afk version since its always up

[shadow bay]

remember only invest first for the cheaper ones... ie 4 stars and below... coz they mostly need only at elite 1...

we have premium slaves in which u should avoid for now... coz idk what list u would see... but the pins here also have the list for cheap ones

[rain forge]

close enough that works

[wide knot]

I dont know maybe I should just use s3

[wide knot]

Frick should have just invested in 4 stars

I cant help myself but to use the 6 stats even though I hate the character like siege

[wraith sentinel]

The boulder throw deals 3000 Physical Damage (2100 with Sanctuary) so it's kinda close.

[shadow bay]

yeh something like siege is so washed u rly dont use her unless just a simp

[wide knot]

Haha thank gos I ain't one

[hidden nacelle]

why not just ignore
zero return on investment

[wide knot]

Just waiting for Silberash alter to replace siege

[severe crypt]

…Myrtle replaces siege

[wide knot]

Its a bad habit of mine huhu

[rain forge]

Then get rid of that bad habit brah

[wide knot]

Actually siege has saved me sometimes since she is cheap like 14 dp and I want to block a few enemies while myrtle prints dp

[severe crypt]

“Cheap” “14 dp”

[rain forge]

Noir corne does the same for 11 dp

[wide knot]

Youre right its time to change

[wraith sentinel]

Use Plume or Fang.

[severe crypt]

Plume???

[wide knot]

Eh gonna keep using her until I get the silverash alter

[wraith sentinel]

(I like Plume.)

[slender temple]

Just know that some 6* can be pretty much worthless so don't go around building everyone that is 6*

[wide knot]

Already skill level 7 might as well use her

[rain forge]

She is garbage dude myrtle is just better

[wide knot]

Yeah but she only blocks 1 and when she prints dp she cant block

[rain forge]

just because you wasted resources on trash doesn’t mean you have to use that trash

[severe crypt]

Sl7 isn’t even that high, it’s MINIMUM

[slender temple]

Plume in the same sentence as fang sure is crazy for help standard

[wide knot]

Especially when thr trash miss are fast I cant put down any ground units beside siege

[rain forge]

then use a defender to block instead

Or y’know just deploy a guard or some shit

[wide knot]

Dont have them invested yet

[severe crypt]

What stage are you playing where Myrtle dp gen isn’t enough to defend

[shadow bay]

anyway focus on rectifying ur base first... do 252 and raise base slaves....

atleats ur account investment seems good on surface... just make sure u also invest to their skill levels... like its sl7 for e1 units, and ofc masteries for respective skills per unit

and yeh fix ur roadmap... like talked upon, something like siege can be left alone till end of time... and something like mostima is on bottom of the barrel for priority to raise... her kit is in nicher side, and mostly a utility one... priority dps>>>>utility (with that focus to logos next)

[rain forge]

Istg if this is some 7-9 discourse

[wide knot]

Not enough dp siege is literally the only one cheap enough that I can deploy

[wraith sentinel]

(Crossed out for a reason.)

[hoary ruin]

To be fair, there are a few early stages where they send like a million dogs at you RIGHT at the start. Thankfully that stops eventually

[wide knot]

2 green 2 blue 5 yellow?

[slender temple]

Please don't, fang is alright but plume isn't it

[wide knot]

Alright guess I will raise fang

[wraith sentinel]

(Also I like using Plume for IS because it's funny when she gets to act as a spotter for Lemuen.)

[slender temple]

But as everyone said, you already built myrtle, and you don't really need more than 1 vg in general

[silver smelt]

i forgot how to do this stage are you just cooked without initial dp

[shadow bay]

close enuf yeh, u hit the colors right

252 means 2 trading post, 5 factory, 2 power plant

ur base atm follow 243... 2 tp, 4 fact, 3 pp

[formal shadow]

yeah

[tiny chasm]

pretty much

[wide knot]

Wait when I remove the Power plnt will it give ba k the mats?

[shadow bay]

iirc yeh, except the drone

[wide knot]

Phew then ots alright

[mystic badger]

Is there an easy comparison for the amount of damage that Pramanix Alter does, either with S2 or S3? Is she comparable to any other popular ops?

[wide knot]

Should I progress story?

Not sure what to do

[silver smelt]

why not

[wraith sentinel]

Not much reason not to since there isn't a story/farming event going on.

[hoary ruin]

Yes. You should. Story is the main source of free pulls in this game. No reason to stop.

[wide knot]

I mean some people are saying that I should build ayjafjalla

[wraith sentinel]

If you aren't walled no reason to build.

[rain forge]

How does that correlate with not doing story

[wide knot]

Like e2 her

[wraith sentinel]

I used E1 Eyjafjalla for a lot of the story.

[wide knot]

Using sanity to farm mats

[rain forge]

We have a better caster coming soon, don’t e2 imo keep her at e1

[shadow bay]

u have logos, u rly have little reason to raise eyja

[wraith sentinel]

Her E2 isn't super important.

[slender temple]

You have Logos, he should be your priority

[wide knot]

Cant even e2 haha

[shadow bay]

then chop chop... salt should be unlocked at ch9 now

not to mention u can go straight to ch 9 if u cleared ch3 already

[chilly apex]

does proviso make you consume a lot more bars than normal?

[silver smelt]

to make more gold yeah

[candid badger]

yes

[shadow bay]

ig, since she make ur order have +2 gold

[wide knot]

Im actually at 9-11 right now

[chilly apex]

so i should prob stop using my drones on xp then

[lament loom]

Yes but its very worth, its also why u have more factories (252)

[shadow bay]

u can drone xp when u lack xp
drone gold/tp when u lack lmd

[wide knot]

Like when do I unlock the recipe for logos*

I wanna know since if its still far in chapter 9 imma do something else

[pine plover]

something something chapter 9 side stage, S9-5?

[subtle dawn]

What's the hard stage in chapter 10 again?

[wide knot]

Damn thats far havent even have my first side stage

[pine plover]

manfred and london artillery?

[chilly apex]

its just that i think my bars were going down when i mainly used drones on xp before i started using proviso

[pine plover]

what's chapter 11 gimmick again? i dont have much impression nor memories about it

[formal shadow]

The glasgow device thing that gives barrier?

[wraith sentinel]

Also kind of the trees?

[pine plover]

aah, fart cannon

[formal shadow]

Necrosis is the chapter gimmick

[pine plover]

the nezzalem army

[formal shadow]

Ch11 artillery

Manmade carnival haunts me forever

[shadow bay]

yeh i do drone gold bars so i have huge stash, then go straight to proviso tp droning...

and if run out just go back again to gold bar droning... repeat

and tbh i rarely run out on exp cards, but i do drone them in happenstance that they ran out/low stock

[wraith sentinel]

LMD is so very limiting, man.

[pine plover]

yeah, 10 millions gone in a blink of eyes

[robust thistle]

Person discovers the concept of supply and demand

[shadow bay]

i would also have this problem if only these people stop demaning CEU like a candy grrrr

[lament loom]

Later on, it doesn't become a problem with Proviso (as well as other LMD sources) if you don't have anyone that you intend to raise at the moment.

[pine plover]

the different is you burn more lmd faster because you make lmd faster

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah I know, still a pain to leave so many operators unbuilt because of it.

[pine plover]

you raise more operators anyway to not lose the motivation to play the game

[wraith sentinel]

(Was especially annoying during Vector Breakthrough because holy shit I needed a lot of new ops for all the Special Frontiers.)

[robust thistle]

Vector was a long time ago thoigh

[nocturne tusk]

Is this stage rlly 3 starable?

[wraith sentinel]

And I'm still continuously broke, sadly.

[shadow bay]

yes?

[robust thistle]

If your base is still defective since then, then its skill issue sadly

[wraith sentinel]

That stage was a pain, yeah. Low-Altitude Hovering is urgh.

[lavish ledge]

Is vendela decent

[reef sparrow]

destroy the pillars to make the enemies reroute

[humble arrow]

You can do surtr hospital with just mon3tr exualt and surtr??

[wraith sentinel]

I mean I also haven't even reached a year of playtime yet.

[nocturne tusk]

wait wa-

[robust thistle]

A decent base is achievable within 1 month

[nocturne tusk]

I thought its stage 15

[shadow bay]

yeh actually thats the 1st thing i think of... pillars rubble can repath enemies as long as they have another route to take

[humble arrow]

Fallen pillars act as walls

[nocturne tusk]

[rapid oasis]

Would u guys prioritize gg’s mastery or module?

[wraith sentinel]

How much is a decent base supposed to produce? I'm generally at 40k~50k LMD per day with Proviso droning.

[robust thistle]

Didnt the tutorial tell you that enemies cant pass through rubble

[reef sparrow]

should probably be around 60k if prov droning

[nocturne tusk]

no i thought the pillar thing is another stage

[robust thistle]

????

[nocturne tusk]

[reef sparrow]

tf are you smoking mate

[wraith sentinel]

*sigh*
I guess I'll have to look over my setup again.

[pine plover]

chapter 15 doesnt even have pillar

[rapid oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/sadhamstergirl-gif-4231717927828306245

[shadow bay]

offtopic gif... time to die

[rapid oasis]

I will bring you down

[wraith sentinel]

(Anyway, even +10k per day would still leave me at a heavy deficit, even without considering non-6* ops worth building.)

[robust thistle]

I think the problem is you spending too much LMD raising too many stuff

[chilly apex]

what are good pairs for proviso? i left her with generic dudes since i had trios before

[robust thistle]

You cant complaon youre poor if you keep spending money on random stuff

[wanton meadow]

If you're using proviso even without droning you should be pushing 50-55k

Even with 90% team and proviso +30%

[reef sparrow]

damn bro spitting facts even irl

[rapid oasis]

Just smt with high acquisition efficiency
If it’s wrong then other people will end me so either way u will know

[candid badger]

exu, bigil, quartz or just use 30%

[chilly apex]

im using 2 30%s

[abstract mauve]

hi chat. what do we think about a 35% uptime faster cycle camo that can camo 4 units as long as they are linked to each other by 8 adjacent squares?

[wraith sentinel]

I mean while yes, it isn't really on random stuff. The game does kinda want you to have a range of choices.

[reef sparrow]

is your base 243?

[wanton meadow]

The idea is you just want as much tp% with her

[reef sparrow]

heavyrain?

[chilly apex]

yup, im a lazy bum

[abstract mauve]

no. a bit newer

[rapid oasis]

It’s just barely two words
Pleaseeee

[formal shadow]

uksuik or whatever her name is

[formal shadow]

modX1 first

[gentle dove]

Flip a coin

[reef sparrow]

oh the new medic

[rapid oasis]

[hoary ruin]

If it's someone you like using, both. The order isn't important. Generally mod does more than masteries but both are important.

[rapid oasis]

Is this ChatGPT’s answer?

[robust thistle]

Theres like minimal amount of non *6s that demands high investment

[chilly apex]

does it make a difference?

[rapid oasis]

Ahhh I see
Well I actually wanted to know which one too but I got my answer

[wanton meadow]

For lmd, it's mostly whether or not you can pump out enough gold to supply proviso

[abstract mauve]

"mod does more than masteries" is not true as a general statment bruh

[vital kelp]

only very good mod are better than masteries

[wanton meadow]

243 will usually have issues with either generating enough gold bars or they'll tank xp to keep proviso droned

[abstract mauve]

you'd be happy if a mod gives you over 24% more damage. mastery at a base you expect over 30% more damage with some possible sp cost reduction

[severe crypt]

Basically 252 can give you competitive lmd AND exp prod

[hoary ruin]

This at M3 or M1?

[abstract mauve]

m3 vs mod3

[reef sparrow]

how frequent would you be using the camo mechanics tho, idk inside IS since I barely play IS, but group camo that is better than heavyrain sounds ok-ish to me

[formal shadow]

module gives you instant gratification so it's better

[outer gyro]

this guy doesn't know about irene cursing

[rapid oasis]

Look at least u gave me an answer
Unlike other people who only jumped while they could see someone to beat up

[severe crypt]

Erm just use fully charged zuo le

[abstract mauve]

module reminds you that trust is a thing tho

[formal shadow]

0 h >> 4 h

[abstract mauve]

it could have some applications in IS but nothing too major

[reef sparrow]

the skill is insta cast so you can generate sp while still in camo, and the positioning of ops isn't as limited as heavyrain camo so I find it better if there's a map you want to abuse camo

[formal shadow]

we'll see if that guy's a megafan for him to commit to gg mod3 first

[chilly apex]

does qiubai have a good niche? i have sakiko and thorns already leveled

[abstract mauve]

s3m3 is still a good mastery regardless. mod1 for gg is fine tbh

[robust thistle]

IS5 quilon permabind

[rapid oasis]

U talking about me?

[tranquil zodiac]

anyone willing to help me? I need to finish the starter quest username gorushi

[severe crypt]

….slow down what starter quest

[tranquil zodiac]

Visit friends base

[severe crypt]

Ah thats when you browse #friend-id and hope someone answers

[tranquil zodiac]

Ah

[reef sparrow]

you can add everyone there too

[severe crypt]

If we are willing to accept

[reef sparrow]

surely out of 100 peeps there should be

I can drop my ID but I can't accept now so I guess that wouldn't work for me

[winter crystal]

You don’t want to complete the last steps of pin board missions fyi they call for you to level the right side of your base and you can’t reverse that

[severe crypt]

I mean don’t think this mission would do harm but yeah don’t bother with the base building ones

[ancient belfry]

what was the name of the noisiest vanguard? she/he was using a katana?

[wraith sentinel]

I said even without considering them, it's mostly 6*s I have unbuilt that I do want built (Saileach, Reed the Flame Shadow, Weedy, and maybe if I really have spare change Sankta Miksaparato).

[severe crypt]

Saga, and she wields some sort of polearm

[severe crypt]

Deadass the only ones worth building from here are reed and weedy

[elder shore]

Is e2 thorns still worth it when i already have e2 sakiko?

[severe crypt]

Not really no

[wraith sentinel]

I know which is why they haven't been built yet.

[snow siren]

for temporary operators in IS, if I promote them will they gain modules/masteries I have on my versions of them?

[wraith sentinel]

They're completely maxed out.

[formal shadow]

full mods & masteries

[snow siren]

oh nice

[winter crystal]

Except if you don’t have radians proficiencies you won’t have them even with temp radian

[snow siren]

This map is the bane of my existence, I haven't managed to beat it once yet.

[formal shadow]

thorns draft?

[snow siren]

Yeah, free thorns

[formal shadow]

surely he can tank those guys with s2

[snow siren]

I gave him S1.

Also he probably gets overwhelmed and a bunch slip through, that's the problem I keep having with this level.

[formal shadow]

jus lure them out one by one should be fine I think

shu s2 can block 4 so no need to worry about leaks if you're drawing out all 4 with wis

[robust thistle]

I isnt that stave just waiting until.you have enough for blocker+dps

[shadow bay]

where spike killer???

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure wisadel and shu just eats that stage alive

[formal shadow]

qb s2 duh

[robust thistle]

Oh I see the problem, its a myrtle draft

[shadow bay]

should be

shu in, wisadel next... wait wisadel s3... kabiom

[minor oracle]

I'm coming back after not playing for a while ... I forgot how to team build entirely and need help TwT (not sure if I should post my units now or not)

[snow siren]

whats a spike killer.

[robust thistle]

Pins, krooster, import your account there
Read roadless camelot in pins

[minor oracle]

Ty

[formal shadow]

someone to kill the green crystals (art damage)

[shadow bay]

most peeps yearn for this one coz it give plans

[snow siren]

oh, I use wisadel.

[limpid yarrow]

tragodia humus duos the stage im pretty sure

wis should be fine tho

[snow siren]

I dont have him yet

[crimson star]

is silverash alter a "must pull" or should I wait for lappland alter to come back or something

[random shard]

Lapp alter will be an offrate but will never "come back" as a banner main

[shadow bay]

no one is a must pull

but pram alt is one of the good unit to pull with the banners we have atm

[severe crypt]

Pramalt is leagues better than lappalt anyway

[crimson star]

do we know when she's coming

[random shard]

With sash alt

[wraith sentinel]

A week or two.

[shadow bay]

also a rate up beside sash alter

[crimson star]

ohh ok thanks

[snow siren]

what does raidian do?

[shadow bay]

deploy funny fish and airplanes

[snow siren]

whats her best skill pre promotion?\

[shadow bay]

but yeh...

s2 for fish that can atk straight ahead
s3 airplanes for coordinated atk if condition met

[formal shadow]

s2. s1 if cannot rob f1

[subtle dawn]

What do the red numbers mean that sometimes appear?

[wraith sentinel]

'Critical' hit, or high damage hit.

[subtle dawn]

Oh there's crits in this game?

[desert mulch]

Every other limited operators never come back as banner main?

[slate ridge]

sometimes
mainly on Conviction and Dorothy

[wraith sentinel]

In quotation marks, certain operators have for example Talents that occasionally let them deal more damage.

[formal shadow]

? isn't it just any hit that is above enemy def

no way my tequila has 99% crit rate

[wraith sentinel]

Normal unenhanced attacks don't show damage numbers as far as I can recall.

[severe crypt]

I remember something about the op dealing 150% of their attack

[wraith sentinel]

On Skill damage counts as far as I know.

[coarse notch]

yes thats why they're limited

[severe crypt]

Like why beanstalk deals red numbers as long as the enemy is blocked by crab

[worthy gyro]

red numbers don't really have a hard rule to them tbh
even projekt red gets red numbers when proccing her talent Chill (deal at least 30% ATK as damage on hit)

[desert mulch]

Damn, that means chance to get Wisadel almost 0

[severe crypt]

Oh yeah then why do I see a lot of Toyota highlander limiteds

[subtle dawn]

Ohh so when one of those trigger it comes up as a red number?

[severe crypt]

I’m highly certain of the 150% of attack figure

[random shard]

Either off rate her on celebration banner (2x per year) or 300 pulls on one to spark (not recommended)

[wraith sentinel]

Turns out I might have been mistaken yeah, looking around the 150% makes sense.

[worldly zealot]

is logos or lapp alter generally better/more worth investing in

[worthy gyro]

why does projekt red show red numbers when hitting people, then?

(hitting people with too high DEF, forcing her talent to proc)

[vital kelp]

its doing 150% of what they should be doing(atk - def)

[subtle dawn]

I saw a red number for 35 a few times and was confused

[desert mulch]

When wisadel april fools skin coming to global? If it even coming

[minor oracle]

I was just curious if any of these should definitely be on my team (I checked the guide already but I'm asking here so I can double make sure)

[wraith sentinel]

Next April Fools.

[severe crypt]

Next April 1st

[slate ridge]

its mostly just this
3rd req is not reaching 10 scarlet numbers but i havent tested if they updated the limit

[severe crypt]

Thanks rain

[wraith sentinel]

Haruka and Hoshiguma the Breacher definitely.

[worthy gyro]

ahhhh
so to the game, 500atk - 2000def suddenly coming out to 150dmg dealt through her trait is considered enough for red numbers?

[vital kelp]

yes

[severe crypt]

You can send the krooster link, easier for us to recommend

[minor oracle]

Ah ok

[worthy gyro]

neat

[subtle dawn]

Also is there any ops worth buying in the red cert shop for my team or base other than quartz and Ethan?

[severe crypt]

Go to settings then copy link

And you did import right

[minor oracle]

Yes

https://krooster.com/u/tiny-navy-otter-899n (thank you)

[winter crystal]

You have hoshi2 but no sakiko or band members?

Did you quite shortly after

[minor oracle]

I would come back here and there 💔 life caught up to me so I had to be on and off a lot

[neat acorn]

[winter crystal]

Oh no wait there is a single band member?

[neat acorn]

So random

[subtle dawn]

Will an opportunity to get hoshi2 ever come back I'm kinda lacking on defense 😔

[wraith sentinel]

Build Cuora or Bubble.
Only as an off-rate / spark.

[lyric lagoon]

wait for the next festival banner and pray to whatever god you believe in for an off-rate, cause she doesn’t rerun

[winter crystal]

Well hoshi2 isn’t a brick wall she’s damage so you’re good

[lyric lagoon]

also if you’re worrying about not having enough operators of a certain role, roles don’t matter as much as an operator’s function

[subtle dawn]

Oh ok I thought she was a defender, are they gonna release any new good defender units soon?

[winter crystal]

You can literally have all ranged ops as long as you’re killing stuff before they enter your blue box

[neat acorn]

True

[signal dragon]

do you have cuora?

[neat acorn]

[lyric lagoon]

me when you can literally run medicknights and clear 90% of the game

[winter crystal]

She is a defender but she’s not a tank but damage. There are supporters that are basically healers and healers they are basically ranged damage etc the role doesn’t matter

[subtle dawn]

Y'all don't understand bruh these enemies in chapter 10 so tanky and do so much aoe damage and just come back to life when you kill them, and don't even get me started on the cannon

[lyric lagoon]

though she doesn’t have bad tankiness at all, she just doesn’t have as much of it as dedicated bricks

[neat acorn]

I’m stuck on a tutorial stage

[subtle dawn]

Nah I'm having 0 luck in recruitments

[signal dragon]

well sa banner is soon you'll get cuora from there

[lyric lagoon]

if you’re stuck on main story, you don’t need to keep on going in main story, just clear past events

[slate ridge]

change the Beagle to Bison after Beagle dies and change Bison to Cardigan after Bison dies
repeat it for every stage in chap 10

[slim tusk]

what will cuora do on chap 10 that hoshi2 can't

[minor oracle]

Should I just follow the beginner guide mostly then?

[wraith sentinel]

Tank the bear.

[winter crystal]

Spot cuora bubble etc

[slim tusk]

bear on chap 10 uh sure

[subtle dawn]

Im tryna get logo's mod before sash2 banner so I won't have to worry about logos anymore because he will be fully built that's why I'm tryna get through chapter 10 but damn bruh they were not playing around when designing this chapter

[wraith sentinel]

Oh, I misread as after Chapter 10.
(Ignore me then.)

[neat acorn]

What boss is chapter ten

[slim tusk]

manfraud

[signal dragon]

can't you just use support if you're struggling that much?

[subtle dawn]

Yeah but then i don't get that joy of beating it after many attempts cuz wisadel will just one shot everything

[quick jolt]

what part of ch10 are u struggling with, imo its one of the easier later chapters

wisadel probably isnt even the best support for it if you dont have anyone who can tank the cannon

[lyric lagoon]

you don’t need to use wisadel, there’s other supports you can utilize if you’re so against her

[subtle dawn]

10-11 bruh 😭 the first enemy that comes out is some tanky mf that does so much dmg and my mountain was tickling him

[robust thistle]

Mfw 90% damage reduction

[neat acorn]

You can bait the cannon with 3 defenders

[robust thistle]

Fun fact, youre supposed to use the cannon to kill the enemies if youre playing it "normally"

[neat acorn]

Just place a defender on the enemy

[lyric lagoon]

mudrock and mountain can duo that stage pretty sure

[subtle dawn]

But the cannon doesn't even one shot them

[quick jolt]

it deals enough dmg to them to let you chip away after

[neat acorn]

Dmg is dmg

[robust thistle]

You do it multiple times then

[lyric lagoon]

and there are way better defenders you can borrow than mudrock to use

[robust thistle]

You dont have the raw damage to kill them so this is what you should do

[gloomy fossil]

Is there any way i can get hoshialt’s e2 mats in episode 3

[wanton meadow]

So uhhh do i e2lv40 or e2lv70 cuora? Feels like she really likes having the extra base def

[subtle dawn]

Ok I will try that on my next attempt ty

[wanton meadow]

This is to actually tackle stuff like h16-2 bear

[slate ridge]

get lucky with events dropping the right mat ig

[shadow bay]

40 is fine, only 70 when rich and rly need that extra def

beside, if u want more defense for some reason, invest in module instead

[quick jolt]

technically yes. the mats needed to make her e2 mats are unlocked in chapter 9 and chapter 15, both of these are the beginnings of new arcs meaning you can instantly jump to them after chapter 3.

the issue with this is that you would have to grind them on stupidly inefficient low droprate story stages

[lyric lagoon]

atp just pray an event shop has them

[quick jolt]

doesnt is6 rewards have them?

[slate ridge]

cant access IS in chap 3

[lyric lagoon]

oh yeah, they do

[wanton meadow]

I'm planning on modx3 anyway, I'm just wondering if she needs the extra levels to handle h16-2 bear cos every single video i saw with her uses her at max

[neat acorn]

He isn’t getting close to IS6

[quick jolt]

i mean its doable with a borrow, but that assumes you know what you're doing in the first place

[neat acorn]

True but highly unlikely

[shadow bay]

ahhh specific use huh .. im not certain for this, but uhhh surely it wont leverage that much coz of that bit of defense from raw stats

[lyric lagoon]

iirc nasti event is the next time they’re in shop (and there isn’t even enough of them)

[gloomy fossil]

I was told IS6 is like MDI but worse which doesnt seem bad

[quick jolt]

basically tl;dr you could get her mats but its going to be really fucking annoying

[gloomy fossil]

Sweet

[raw wigeon]

IS6 is fun

[shadow bay]

for now test for l40, if she can tank the bear.... if it doesn't work then just bump it to 70...

[minor oracle]

Does this work?

[neat acorn]

Can’t you lure the bear with low stars and use Wis as support

[gloomy fossil]

Could i even do IS6 with this?
(I have since given tea applesauce e1)

[lyric lagoon]

yes

[shadow bay]

way too many vanguards

[quick jolt]

my cuora at lvl60 with mod3 could not tank the bear in h16-2 offskill. it deals almost 2k base dmg in that stage. even with haruka s3 active she struggled to survive. onskill she can so it depends on if you can burst it in that time

[formal shadow]

MDI is akin to high-difficulty IS
normal IS run is around hard mode f5 at most. f10 if you're pushing other endings

[neat acorn]

Well that’s the method I use but you could just out heal the dmg too

[minor oracle]

I see

[neat acorn]

There’s a lot of methods to bully the bear

[lyric lagoon]

bear is clearable with all low stars, the problem is what comes after the bear that makes h16-2 unclearable with 3*s only

[gloomy fossil]

Oh okay
What would i need to do to get hoshialts e2 mats from is6

[quick jolt]

theoretically you can win a run with nothing but a borrowed tragodia and a bunch of 3stars. obviously that requires actual knowledge of what you're doing

[ancient belfry]

worth it? or shall I use it on humus if I ever pull him

[formal shadow]

just grind the battlepas

[raw wigeon]

You need to borrow friends' operators if you want to do IS6 now. Tragodia or exu2

[wraith sentinel]

Was Cuora blocking the bear? Since it attacks at range.

[quick jolt]

yeah

i made sure to deploy her on top of it. she cant survive off skill without very heavy sustain

[wraith sentinel]

Oh wait I missed the 200% Attack buff, yeah that makes sense.

[gloomy fossil]

Sweet i can do that

[neat acorn]

My hoshi2 with haruka was not able to tank the bear dmg and I had to put an extra healer

[quick jolt]

well thats hoshi2 she has low defense compared to protectors

[lyric lagoon]

well hoshi2 ain’t that much of a brick

[wraith sentinel]

She has really low Defense, in exchange for high Resistance.

[lyric lagoon]

she trades off the defense for res due to being arts protector

[gloomy fossil]

She’s an arts defender what do you want from her

[wraith sentinel]

Base Hoshiguma is better against the bear, to tank at least.

[neat acorn]

Oh well equivalent exchange

[frank rune]

whens next new banner?

[gloomy fossil]

GO TO SLEEP ITS 4 AM

[wraith sentinel]

[lyric lagoon]

wait for confirmation on the jp livestream in like 8 hours from now

[quick jolt]

even nian offskill gets obliterated by h16-2 bear offskill lol. didnt test hoshi because i dont have anyone on friends with her

[neat acorn]

I thought it was on 8 April?

[wraith sentinel]

Warfarin S1 is funny with Nian, but yeah gets tricky without an additional healer.

[signal dragon]

the livestream yeah

[neat acorn]

Also is it even guaranteed we’d get news of sa2 on the livestream

[quick jolt]

that is literally what the stream is for so yes

[lyric lagoon]

that is the 8 of april

[signal dragon]

yes, streams are only for limited

[neat acorn]

Which platform is it being streamed on?

[formal shadow]

who else can it be? nasti?

[neat acorn]

Perchance

[quick jolt]

youtube

[lyric lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/LYgbSKfulDU?si=ZIN2lVSk_ggInqkt

[thorny edge]

wdym pram isnt limited

[minor oracle]

I shall keep asking until I figure it out my sleep deprived brain is attempting to navigate through the guides on mobile, is this a better team setup

[thorny edge]

holy homegrown

[quick jolt]

literally like 8 of those can go honestly

[signal dragon]

ditch mull, Lucilia, Irene, bag and exu

[shadow bay]

mulberry sucks, use normal medi-- w8 nvm.. ur also overhealing... stick to either haruka or eyjaberry

[wraith sentinel]

Mulberry isn't that useful either, especially with Haruka and Eyjafjalla on the team.
Ninja'd.

[signal dragon]

actually just send roster

[limpid yarrow]

homegrown is a very interesting way to put it

[lyric lagoon]

is that like your leftovers

[minor oracle]

I sent a link I can resend it

[lyric lagoon]

quite a mid ass acc to be homegrown from

[minor oracle]

😔

[neat acorn]

The live will be when I’m asleep💔

[thorny edge]

i mean max pot howshitter and haruka

[lyric lagoon]

did not realize that

[thorny edge]

and like nothing is levelled

[severe crypt]

Wait I just realized the max pot

[quick jolt]

give this guy a hool offrate

[vital kelp]

homegrown

[random kestrel]

is this asking or flexing?
guide in pin exists for some reason

[thorny edge]

they should give me those haruka pots

[severe crypt]

This guy either paid a lot, or he paid a lot

[lyric lagoon]

bets on image spam for their roster posting?

[severe crypt]

No bets cuz I taught him how to krooster link

[thorny edge]

the real savior

[lyric lagoon]

taking them quite a long time then

[severe crypt]

If he still image spams I am going to give 6 hools to laq

[thorny edge]

can you not

[quick jolt]

can i have some too

[minor oracle]

It's almost like there's a reason.. I'm asking for help... because it's like I'm confused on how it works.. because I ah ent been on the game for a bit

[signal dragon]

think of the certs

[quick jolt]

oh so you WONT give me hools if i ask for them thank u so much

[minor oracle]

I'm playing because I like the story ts confuses me because I don't understand it, I have a friend make my factories on Endfield because I'm swamped enough, that should be enough of a tell

[severe crypt]

I don’t think that’s what we’re concerned about

[thorny edge]

you can keep haruka, hoshiguma, ente, and myrtle

[thorny edge]

what certs

[minor oracle]

Then follow the beginner guide for the rest of the team slots?

[lyric lagoon]

the if and when but never is certs

[thorny edge]

yes but ignore medics bc you already have the best one

[neat acorn]

[humble arrow]

Theres a way to take out the fire? I put wisadel down and she took out her own fire?

[thorny edge]

yes operators will remove the fire on their own tile

[signal dragon]

the certs I'm gonna steal from you

[shadow bay]

deploy ops in the very tile

[minor oracle]

I'm fine with following the guide the reason I was asking after the fact was to see if there would be a replacement with anyone I have that's a 6 star, I apologize for any inconvenience or "trying to flex" I caused

[neat acorn]

I didn’t notice that while my ops were burning alive

[humble arrow]

But the ones on the right burned the entire stage

[signal dragon]

it's fine it's just unusual seeing max pot 6*s at low investment

[thorny edge]

cuz..operators werent blocking the fire?
fire will spread unless an operator is deployed on said fire tile. operators will put out the fire on their own tile after a bit. tiles that operators occupy arent immune to other tiles spreading fire to it

[lyric lagoon]

it takes like 20 seconds and it can get reignited after 5 seconds, so don’t blame you

[humble arrow]

Basically just use the ones with the same roles as replacement, caster can replace caster, sniper for sniper, tsnk for tank, healer for healer

That should get you through most guides

[minor oracle]

Thank you all for your help, sorry if I acted kind of rude

[neat acorn]

Ye better to just let the entire map burn and out heal the dmg

[humble arrow]

You can also go read what the 3 /4 stars do and see who you have that does the same tjing

[minor oracle]

I'm a pm fan what is "reading character kits"

[humble arrow]

Basically a lot of ops u have are 3/4 stars but better in many ways if that makes sense, just figure out who does what

[neat acorn]

What they do

[humble arrow]

I didnt even say the word kit brother i said read what they do

[random kestrel]

no worry
maybe be more clear about what to do next here so i can't jump to wrong conclusion

[neat acorn]

You also can choose not to read and figure out what they do while playing

[minor oracle]

Using this info I'm gonna read and build and play, thank you all again

[neat acorn]

More fun but tedious

[random kestrel]

and ak in general favor who read thoroughly

[humble arrow]

One tip i have is find out what an operator does before building them

[thorny edge]

ak is also racist

[neat acorn]

0.1%

[humble arrow]

Building a 5 star op to max then never using them again is quite the setback, much less multiple

[thorny edge]

fortune favours the chinese 💀

[neat acorn]

I am not in this %

[lyric lagoon]

politics moment (and also publisher diff)

[random kestrel]

glad folks here catch it fast :cheers:

[humble arrow]

Me when the translation itslf sucks

[thorny edge]

cn just has better resources wcyd

[neat acorn]

Does cn have a bigger player base?

[humble arrow]

Snipers shoot physical damage, casters shoot magic damage which is better vs the guys with armor and shield

[chrome epoch]

is the sky blue

[random kestrel]

tl suck is this game trademark anyway
dont dwell too much on it

[thorny edge]

idk but cn channels more of the "tony stark hammering in cave" energy

[arctic cargo]

random question is there anyway i can change the day/night lobby theme to just night time? like the music

[humble arrow]

Cn has the same bozos aswell but those who cant read wont be remembered 🫠

[lyric lagoon]

majority of player advice also sucks cause they’re casuals

[nimble kite]

Yes, stay on fire for some time and it will extinguish itself.

[lyric lagoon]

not manually

[knotty wave]

you mean the so long adele theme? no

[humble arrow]

No way bro my right side burned for 20 years

[arctic cargo]

exactly lmaooo

[pale tapir]

just play only at night ( you can't)

[neat acorn]

Just accept it

[arctic cargo]

thats the move for real lmaooo

[lyric lagoon]

they get reignited after like 5 seconds of being put out

[humble arrow]

[neat acorn]

When I played the stage it was easier to just let it all burn instead of trying to prevent it

[humble arrow]

At this point haruka made me lose more braincells than wisadel she is so breandead

[lyric lagoon]

reeds as a mechanic lowk sucks in design

[humble arrow]

Haruka and ulpianous got rid of critical thinking

[minor oracle]

I'm so sorry last question, everyone kept saying to keep hoshiguma.. which one

[lyric lagoon]

the breacher

[humble arrow]

The one that says hoshiguma the breacher, she is an arts dps that kills everything in radius once you upgrade her

[winter crystal]

The one with more pixels

[neat acorn]

Kills everything hm

[rigid folio]

#help

[pale tapir]

she can only target up to 3 simultaneously with s3 btw

[neat acorn]

With masteries

[humble arrow]

Surtr targets 4 surtr mogs 😇

[wraith flicker]

If I completed hoshi2's module missions now, would they actually register when the update comes or would i have to deal 100k again for example

[random kestrel]

a very powerfull oni
at e1 she already function with s2

[neat acorn]

Actually I forgot

[odd sky]

mission doesn't register

[pale tapir]

you're correct, needs at least m1 to target 3

[neat acorn]

Still pretty broken with 2 still

[humble arrow]

whats hoshi s3 total dmg?

[verbal tangle]

Until when is the April fool's event

[lyric lagoon]

mogged by unblockables

[neat acorn]

[humble arrow]

anyone know which stage reed module unlock is?

[pale tapir]

wiki should have requirement info

[winter crystal]

I really hope this is reedalt

[knotty wave]

you couldve just googled this and gotten your answer immediately

[lyric lagoon]

reed mod isn’t even good either way 💀

[winter crystal]

If you’re at the point where you can mod Reed you’ve gone too far

[arctic hawk]

i know the stage off the top of my head but come on really

[humble arrow]

Why not mod 1 doesnt hurt

[winter crystal]

E2 does tho

[lyric lagoon]

there are better mods you can spend those blocks on

[knotty wave]

im waiting for her 2nd mod for that arts fragility increase

[shadow bay]

indeed... now look down to peasants that cant spare 4-12 blocks for reedic

[vague wasp]

Ops of jack all trade

[humble arrow]

how are yall getting materials to e2 m3 faster than mod 3 is my question...

[neat acorn]

These side story ops are free cert

Are any of them useful

[winter crystal]

You’ve been playing for 3 years why are you struggling for mats 🥀

[shadow bay]

have u experienced hoe needing 17 CEU for some reason???

[quiet sandal]

when do u choose between saki s1 and s2?

[humble arrow]

cuz I dont play everyday boss

[winter crystal]

You don’t you choose S3

[quiet sandal]

her other skills bad?

[neat acorn]

Ye

[lyric lagoon]

s3 just far overpowers s1 and s2

[humble arrow]

s2 is okay for afk

[neat acorn]

Well s2 is useable but s3 is just a better version

[minor oracle]

I think I got it finally

[humble arrow]

If you want to play the game at least as possible, I use her like that too

[quiet sandal]

ya cos for afk i kinda dont see when youd ever pick s1 over s2

[lyric lagoon]

kichisei

[humble arrow]

apparantly s1 has synergy with the ambusher in her band

[quiet sandal]

but i was thinking her s1 would be rly good for is with archetto as its like only use case

[neat acorn]

Why are half the ops lvl 1

[minor oracle]

Cuz they aren't leveled I just did this

[quiet sandal]

ic ill look

[humble arrow]

eyjafjalla te hvit aska is pretty good u can use her

[neat acorn]

Max pot

[humble arrow]

Wtf i just noticed max pot

[neat acorn]

Eating good I see

[humble arrow]

lol

[winter crystal]

You can E1 Haruka just to use her S2 then keep her E1 while you focus on dps

[humble arrow]

haruka s2 is a very strong healing skill after you use it twice

[winter crystal]

It’s her main skill yeah

[neat acorn]

Haruka drops my iq by half

[humble arrow]

Ulpianous takes my other half

[winter crystal]

There is a funny interaction with S1 sakiko and S1 umiri but you’re using S3 regardless

[neat acorn]

I really want ulp to use with sa2

[minor oracle]

Over who?

[pale tapir]

do I e2 nyamu
considering it rn

[fiery canopy]

shes a fever bot for saki

[winter crystal]

Please god no

[lyric lagoon]

you’re gonna summon fae

[humble arrow]

I dont think u need cuora with hoshiguma breacher

[pale tapir]

it's between nyamu and blaze

[lyric lagoon]

for why

[winter crystal]

WHY

[neat acorn]

Ulp should be on banner after sa2?

[pale tapir]

for fun ofc

[winter crystal]

The banner could change don’t know for sure

[proven kelp]

Yes

[humble arrow]

U dont want to use ulp for his amazing s2?

[winter crystal]

You and I have very different definitions of fun

Also if I see you in icebreakers ima steal sakiko

[quiet sandal]

kk thank you killari

[nimble kite]

<SuperMarioGalaxy-BowserTheme.flac>

[fiery canopy]

nyamu isnt that bad !

[pale tapir]

yes ma'am right away my glorious almond eye

[proven kelp]

Nyamu good for passive Fever

Helps save time

[pale tapir]

oh lol maybe u will I was considering her so I can run full bandori in icebreaker lol

[winter crystal]

If you bring stronger ops you’ll clear the stage faster which will also save time

[neat acorn]

Well

[winter crystal]

Well I always go to steal sakiko if I see full band squad

My count is up to 4 rn, I’ve stolen wis and it made 4 people instantly quit

[neat acorn]

Wth

[lapis tide]

I'm being merciful and not having wis in my draft because i know half of the game population cant live without her

[humble arrow]

only half are using her from what I see, I barely see any wis in icebreaker

[neat acorn]

I see mostly lap

[proven kelp]

I don't even have Wis in my 1st choices

[lapis tide]

last year was all wis, this year its all yu lapp pink cat

[humble arrow]

i see shu every game for some reason why are people spamming shu yu with no lap

[winter crystal]

also full 5 star squad I saw recently from a lvl 120. Unfathomably based

[lapis tide]

I do like the yearly occasion of getting to check people rosters out

[slim tusk]

why would shu yu need bum like lap

[winter crystal]

Yu S3 funny

[light latch]

When im coaching i bring my own wisadel to aak for fun

[neat acorn]

It is probably bad that I haven’t done my Anihaltion op for like 4 months

[quiet sandal]

does gg work with yu s3

[humble arrow]

yes

[pale tapir]

her cycle doesn't line up the way lapptop's does tho unfortunately

[quiet sandal]

🤤 🤤 🤤

[neat acorn]

Laptop

[light latch]

Why did u throw away 48 pulls bruh

[humble arrow]

they literally put down 2 vanguard shu yu plus healer like gang

[ancient lintel]

That's the torchwood comp ye

[neat acorn]

Laziness

Also I forgot about it

[quiet sandal]

is ifrit w the burn mod + yu cope af

[lapis tide]

you couldve gotten max pot wang from these smhmh

[neat acorn]

[quiet sandal]

idk what other elemental sources there are, like i heard virtuosa good to enable or buff elemental units or smt

[slate ridge]

google tomimi.dev > recruitment > pick ops that do elemental

[humble arrow]

theres 4?