help

[pine plover]

speaking of which, which swire non-IS mod is better for outside of IS?

[undone portal]

designing stages around an op that wasnt even in the game until the event was halfway over sounds wack

[haughty blaze]

what skill mastery for mont3r

[undone portal]

x1 is good for the merchant dp qol as usual
you shouldnt be abusing revive talent so much to make y3 suddenly worth it

[signal dragon]

X3 is +40% attack

[undone portal]

2 or 3, depending on what you use her for. consider doing both if you bring her a lot

[haughty blaze]

i just got her and i have eyjalter so i havent experimented much. same with haruka, still not such which one is comfier

[undone portal]

for haruka, just stick to s2
for mon3tr, think about whether you want her as a healer/aspd buffer always (s2) or if you want her to sub in for blocking/dps when necessary (s3)

[odd sky]

just do m6 🥱

[pure dove]

What's the deal with the recruitements event ? Is there any way l can look at it in more detail ? I could have sworn l saw the Top Op tag mentionned on it but l can't find the page it showed when l logged on

[signal dragon]

it's not here yet (top op)

[odd sky]

below setting button in home lobby thing

[undone portal]

'after update' means after the next major update w/ maintenance

[royal swan]

Senior op, top op is in the next phase (when the timer ends)

[undone portal]

check top left in homescreen, there should be a dropdown of the special events happening rn

[pure dove]

Ooooo ok l see

It just didn't appear for me when l clicked the drop down menu yesterday, thank you for your help
While l'm at it, is there any skill on Mantra that really wants a specialization or is she fine at M7 ?

[robust thistle]

shes fine at s3m3

[pine plover]

wtf is m7

[robust thistle]

if shes m7 you already done masteries on all 3 skills wdym

[pine plover]

that's not how math works

[odd sky]

[undone portal]

do we mean skill rank 7

[pure dove]

This but idk what it's called since l avoid the gacha communities like her plague ever since l played Genshin so l'm not familiar with the terminology

[robust thistle]

[undone portal]

abbreviate to sl7 here
do skill 3 mastery 3 (s3m3)

[robust thistle]

if you have tragodia, do s3m3
if you dont have him then you can hold off on doing masteries

[brazen gulch]

seeing "m6" in #friend-id especially also kinda bamboozles me. which two skills are we talking about

[median fable]

saria is a m7
s1m1, s2m3 and s3m3

[undone portal]

'm6' on an m9able unit usually means the two good skills, if that helps

[odd sky]

commonly mastered ones :clueless:

[pure dove]

S3M3 it is then, thank you for your answers.

[brazen gulch]

i mean yeah but "up to interpretation" isn't that great of a situation. wish people just took a bit more keystrokes to type out the specific skills

[median fable]

it's probably low priority btw
high chance you have sth better

[undone portal]

idk, if mantras your best arts dps unit then i wouldnt hesitate
mantra s3 is fairly easy to get nukes out of even without trag s3 helping her

[odd sky]

what's a good spammable skill for mantra s3?

[pure dove]

My only other units that could be considered as Arts DPS are Goldenglow, Ifrit, Trag and Hoshi Alter so l'm guessing she's my best option since Goldenglow's damage is getting pretty lackluster right now

[undone portal]

any frd with a passive on-deploy skill, low sp powerstrikes, bagpipe s2, stance changes,

ive been clicking mountain s2 on and off

[robust thistle]

If you ask me, mantra wouldnt do a whole lot better

[rain forge]

bagpipe s2

[pine plover]

kroos s1

[undone portal]

hoshialts your best arts dps

[rain forge]

stainless s3 + any operator with a m3 power strike y 🤫

[undone portal]

minimalist s2

[pine plover]

you dont even need stainless with enemies in range anyway

[odd sky]

i'm so mad puzzle+stainless doesn't work for mantra bro

[undone portal]

they do, its just that mantra has a cap of 3 additional paralysis stacks from skills in range + the 1 she applies when her s3 starts
any further requires nervous bursts

[odd sky]

wait, i guess i misinterpreted the skill wrong

[onyx vortex]

what way to get arknights on pc (IDEALLY WITH HIGHER FPS THAN 60 POSSIBLE) would u guys recommend?

[odd sky]

Arknights is locked to 60 fps so

[onyx vortex]

some emulators unlock it

[undone portal]

youre not gonna get higher than 60fps without intentional frame interpolation fuckery. why do that to the graphics anyway
experiment with emulators (ldplayer, mumuplayer, bluestacks..) or wait for the official pc client

[onyx vortex]

which emulator is preferred?

[worldly estuary]

The ones that ori said are good, except bluestacks ig

[rain forge]

ldplayer’s Arknights dedicated version

[undone portal]

whichever one runs better on your pc. hence 'experiment'

[pine plover]

the game itself is programmed for 60 fps because of the chibi-animation

[rain forge]

either that or emigrate to china and get access to the cn pc port 🤫

[urban sleet]

-# google play games

[rain forge]

gpg is kinda ass imo

[pine plover]

even if you run it on higher fps, the animation is still locked to 30/60 fps anyway (with 2x speed and +500 ASPD in mind)

[urban sleet]

Why do you think I tyoed that in small

[undone portal]

-# should i assume theres something wrong with my eyes if i cant tell the difference between 60 and 120fps

[urban sleet]

-# you dont feel the difference yeah

[onyx vortex]

thank u a lot, didnt know that was a thing

[next bronze]

Do we know when the april fool event will end? If not, how long did it usually last for the previous ones?

[shadow bay]

peeps saying like 6 more days

[clever cedar]

what's your monitor refresh rate?

if it's 60hz you won't see the difference

[surreal wing]

How long does the April fools event last, I don't see a deadline on it

[native blaze]

Is this team good enough to last a good while

[ivory terrace]

for which content

[rain night]

Can someone explain me what helidrop operator mean

[ivory terrace]

deploy and within seconds their skill is ready to use
or just activate immediately

[proven kelp]

Operators that have high Initial SP or have a Passive Skill that allow them to use their Skills very fast upon deployment

[pine plover]

being dropped from heli and ready to go immediately

[rain night]

Got it

[royal swan]

Operatora with skills with either high initial sp or that activate on deployment that are typically used in a drop -> activate skill -> retreat loop

Silverash skill 3, surtr skill 3, utage s2, contrail s1 etc

[rain night]

I see

[royal swan]

Units that have this but also have lower redeployment time (any agent vanguard, executor specialist or units like april) are called fast redeploys instead

[native blaze]

low-key every content

[ivory terrace]

will have been overkill setup anyways for general content

[native blaze]

[rain night]

Should I build surtr for filling this niche ? Or wait for some newer op

[royal swan]

Surtr is fine to build, u don't need this niche covered but a lot of units can fulfill this

[pliant bison]

Whos better for mumu clone, narantuya or dorothy?

[rain night]

What about my team when I have completed actually building them

[unreal fable]

i did a reroll and got degen on 1 pull. should i reroll for lemuen regardless?
it's passive activity

[rain night]

Oh i dont. Okay

[royal swan]

There's units like logos for example that don't need to just be used as helidrops but can be if u need to

Surtr is a good OP so unless ur acc is stacked, it's probably a good idea to build her anyway

[shadow bay]

i would keep it, degen is also a good unit

[royal swan]

Save the acc to an email if u wanna go for lemuen, so u can go back to it if u get tired of rerolling

Lemuen is better imo but degen is good enough to just settle for

[rain night]

I'll just build her in low priority

[shadow bay]

a big auntie that can nuke enemies in an area, while her being invincible...

and she kinda work at e1, although gonna hurt them fingers spamming s2

[glass nexus]

@rain night how to get that W chibi skin in game?

[odd sky]

wait next year

[rain night]

Oh you can't on global

[shadow bay]

and have a money when the time comes

[unreal fable]

do i continue pulling, or just use free units and save for whatever op character in next banners?

[royal swan]

Save for the limited banner

[odd sky]

save

[shadow bay]

save for limited banner, should be rly soon

i dont get it but seems like limited banner gonna be a week or two early in global

[royal swan]

Don't speculate on the specifics of the release date, that's against channel rules

[pliant bison]

Whos better for mumu clone, narantuya or dorothy?

[shadow bay]

dorothy faster aspd
naran have bigger range

[unreal fable]

iirc we get vanguard ash, does it make sense to reroll then, or good enough with degen or lem? i'm very much at the start of the game

[royal swan]

There was a youtube video that analyzed and ranked all of the mumu clones

[shadow bay]

not saying anything

also a livestream announced on 8th, which mostly fall events not more than a week from its announcement

[royal swan]

Depends on whether ur in a rush to start playing, I'd personally reroll on the limited banner instead if u don't mind waiting but if u wanna keep degen, u can farm enough pulls to safely get him as well

[shadow bay]

i would give u a path here

save that degen account, save up pulls

in limited banner would go all in till get pram alter

if u also get sashter in that route, much better ig

[potent trellis]

Matee..should i max lvl Ines or Yu first? Im legit broke for both

[unreal fable]

how long to wait? 1 week or so?

[shadow bay]

neither an option here?

[royal swan]

Hasn't been announced but we usually get them in april (it's been in May exactly once)

[unreal fable]

i guess ill play with degen or maybe reroll for 1 hr to see if i hit lum, then keep playing and see if i get the target characters when limited comes

[proven kelp]

Or you know
Play now, save pulls, pull on the banner

The banner lasts 2 weeks, with tons of free pulls
You are more likely to get the Limited than not within the duration especially if you start early

[potent trellis]

😭😭 alright i will save my mats

[shadow bay]

yeh just think of maxing levels of an unit a luxury

[potent trellis]

Will do

[proven kelp]

If you really want to a better reroll, then reroll for Lemon in this banner

Or high roll a Off rate like Mlynar or Trag

[unreal fable]

btw is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E7HmgKWiV8pKpJpvpVzziYxnaQTP01Vtw_PXEdL7XPA/edit?gid=1108925005#gid=1108925005 reliable for tierlist (and is this for endgame)?
An Arknights Tier List - Dead Site Edition

[royal swan]

Tier lists are not reliable, full stop

[shadow bay]

offrate rerolling

[glass nexus]

Why lemon? Is she strong

[shadow bay]

mfs gonna be on higher plane if they succeed

[royal swan]

Best of the 4 on rate up

[unreal fable]

hmm, is tierlist not reliable it due to combinations and situations?
iirc some 3-4 stars are much better to use?

[royal swan]

Conviction is just bad

[proven kelp]

I mean when the option is better Hool, Degen and Naran
Lemon is the best option there

[rocky pilot]

Naran and degen is good but like lemon is obviously better

Hool is hool, don't bother

[glass nexus]

Hool is that bad? I have her but haven't max her out yet

[proven kelp]

Personally I'm not really that against Tierlist, people here just have a strong hate boner on it

Anyhow, the reason why people here have a hate boner on it is because Most Tierlist generalized all content into 1 List, it lacks Context since some units that are good in High End Content are bad in General Content and Vice Versa

Imo if you're new and just want to know what units are good for general contents, check https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969192347965456414/1483420294650531911/Your_paragraph_text_23.png?ex=69ba864e&is=69b934ce&hm=e3103a11c75362619751e6787b8bc046aeee45b8cc1e2f0573bf21759996d195&animated=true

[rocky pilot]

Unfortunately being hot doesn't mean being good

[pine plover]

well, hot garbage is a thing

[rocky pilot]

Right

[proven kelp]

As long as there isn't anything sharp, it's fine

[rocky pilot]

My condolences now you set her up as assistant and never use her in gameplay ever
Done

[pine plover]

but sharp is actually decent despite mode exclusive operator

[proven kelp]

[shadow bay]

[robust pond]

i did something stupid

[rocky pilot]

Please not too stupid

[pine plover]

how stupid

[robust pond]

I accidentally nuked my factory. Wait this is the wrong arknight discord.

[shadow bay]

[proven kelp]

I don't recall Endfield Industry making nuclear weapons

[pine plover]

imagine izumik explode on your RA basecamp

[odd sky]

i don't have to imagine

[rocky pilot]

Unattended grown up popukar got assigned to the factories and things happen

Hopefully

[rocky pilot]

Wisadel I didn't pay my taxes and obviously I still haven't buy your skin get back to the shop

[pearl zinc]

That daym $4 skin

[carmine trout]

why am i making

35k a day on factory

[odd sky]

build baseslaves

[carmine trout]

i think i have I'll screen shot my presets later

[odd sky]

did you collect consistently like at the same time, how's 3 days average

[carmine trout]

Uhh im not sure,,,

[carmine trout]

Like the previous day i got less than 30k

İ even use drones on proviso e2 with midnight partner

[odd sky]

click arrow on cc

35k with proviso

[carmine trout]

Yaa D:

[regal phoenix]

Like 15 or 20s

[carmine trout]

And my other like okay partner is lapp texas jaye e1 but i rotate them out a bit early because texas kills herself too fast

#whatdatmean

[odd sky]

texas should last 12hr at least wdym

[pine plover]

only lappland can cause her mental damage

welp

[lapis tide]

is it even physically possible to average 3 days in the 30k range with proviso at all, one day could maybe happen if you drone the next day with previous day drones.

[pine plover]

you should have double that with proviso

[urban bolt]

When half anni?

[hollow comet]

street saying they released new playable elemental damage is that true

[odd sky]

corrosion yes

[lapis tide]

yea like only way i can see you getting only 30k a day is if you didnt log in to collect

[hollow comet]

is it the same with what we had

[pine plover]

we didnt even have corrosion

[odd sky]

#cn-lounge message

corrosion was enemy only until zima alter

[hollow comet]

i may misremembered then...

[tall atlas]

About what level should I have my ops to get started in IS?

[whole bolt]

not an is expert but i do fine at e2 lvl 67

i think until you unlock the ops module should be good

[odd sky]

a built carry or two, or just borrow a carry

[spare jetty]

operators?

note that this game aren't gated by your level

else what check #is-station pins

[ancient belfry]

Is the rocket here based on block count? if I use SAsh in the middle, wont the nuke be redirected?

[whole bolt]

yea it targeted the op with most block

[odd sky]

utage summer skin? how old is this acc
oh youtube

[ancient belfry]

Thats kyostin

[whole bolt]

i placed ulpianus s2 on the bottom right near blue box

[odd sky]

do note that the slugs increase block count

[whole bolt]

oh yea dem slugs i forgor

[ancient sonnet]

Is anni defense artilery also 3k damage?

[ionic fractal]

Hey guys does the u-official event (livestream) need you to pick every picture to finish one?

[ancient sonnet]

You need 8 pictures total. Stream ends early if you max fans or revenue

[lament loom]

You need like 8 golden pictures I think

[ancient sonnet]

The lungmen part can be maxed with just 3(Sora, Rat, the other guy)

[odd sky]

you mean londinium cannon right? yea 3k true dmg

[lament loom]

Oh yea the latter part

[ionic fractal]

Ah that sucks 🥹

[lethal sundial]

Is this background unobtainable forever?

[odd sky]

we don't know
we do know that an chapter release UI was rerun, so you might have a chance
this was ch14 event background

[spare jetty]

isn't it 14

[odd sky]

yea 14

[outer ermine]

is hoshibreacher s2m3 worth it

[lethal sundial]

When was ch14 released?

[spare jetty]

around the end of 2024

[rain forge]

not really imo
s3m3 is enough

[lethal sundial]

Wdym i have a chance though

[outer ermine]

unless u actively use s2 (?) idk

[rain forge]

October 2024

[odd sky]

we don't know, but there was precedent of chapter release UI was rerun, so maybe
but this background is also event login, so idk, haven't seen any login event skins or anything rerun yet

[rain forge]

eh sl7 is enough for s2 imo

[outer ermine]

or maybe m2 for sp cycle ?

[rocky pilot]

Does Irene even have any use cases in is

[rain forge]

somewhat of a FRD with IS mod

[median fable]

if you use s2 so much you can consider doing it, generally we don't recommend it since there are better skills to mastery

though I'd say say that s2 has good mastery gains

[rain forge]

no point in stopping at m2

just go all in on m3 if you really want to master it

[outer ermine]

[median fable]

actually s2m2 can be considered a good breakpoint

[rain forge]

[lethal sundial]

Is the hired date in the profile tab using the mm/dd or dd/mm?

[median fable]

iirc it's mm/dd

[odd sky]

mm/dd

[lethal sundial]

Aw i completely missed the login event then

[rocky pilot]

Hey at least is not too much
Don't be like me who actually started playing arknights despite downloading it during release

[outer ermine]

but wait, is her s2 even recommended to be used in view of her s3

could you give a rough ratio of usage for reference

[spare jetty]

s2 when hitcount fest

[outer ermine]

so atk spd shenanigans

[lapis tide]

a good chunk of us just put her down to hold lanes or smth idk

[outer ermine]

oh i thought s3 sort of makes her a helidrop burst

that shouldn't die instantly

[lapis tide]

yea thats what it is mainly for, people use s2 to afk

[median fable]

s3 is the best skill, one of the best arts dmg in the game

s2 is used if you're lazy and want an afk option or you need extra self sustain

[outer ermine]

uhhh moving forward it's pram sash wang n chen we're saving for/investing in right

anyone else

[spare jetty]

none

[lapis tide]

nothing inbetween these 4

[median fable]

for example Hoshi2 s2 is actually used against Yi in is6

[outer ermine]

great

[rain forge]

s3 only kills if you manually deactivate it

[outer ermine]

lemme get their usages briefly, pram is afk global (?) arts & cc, sash generates free deploy, wang is a hyper trapmaster, chen is... uh... an interesting burst with utilities (?)

[humble nova]

wait do people use normal hoshi or hoshi2 for bear

[median fable]

have you read their kits?

[lapis tide]

either works, the only thing that kills op is when bear still got enrage up

[pine plover]

you need 1000+ def to facetank the enraged bear

[outer ermine]

the bear will solo hoshi2 in seconds

[lament loom]

Defence is king... that or stalling.

[marsh dune]

Is viviana good to build?

[median fable]

maybe use hoshi2 s1

[outer ermine]

think not,

[humble nova]

damn so I was misinformed again smh

[lapis tide]

without the enrage bear cant even kill beagle, but if you insist on facetanking it then yea hoshi1

[marsh dune]

Aw sad, she is cute

[pine plover]

she might as well die before it activates

[median fable]

she's decent with mod

[outer ermine]

even with mod she's hardly on the meta at least

[pine plover]

s1 is def recovery

[median fable]

y'all are too poor to use shu premium talent 🥹

[marsh dune]

How many mod she has bcs Im poor rn to e2

[outer ermine]

then don't bother unless u love her

[slim tusk]

clearly the angle is too aak her

[rain forge]

Is it true that logos can oneshot witch king with s1

[median fable]

delta mod for burn, she goes from trash to decent
low priortiy to raise (or simply don't raise her at all)
she has usage in base so not completely to avoid

[outer ermine]

he who one shots anything with enough atk

[astral thorn]

Im pretty new and have 8 material select vouchers, what are the rarest items you can get from them?

[marsh dune]

I also have ray and ascalon e0, should I build them instead?

[median fable]

unless they patched it yeah

[outer ermine]

ascalon yes, premier aoe slow

ray i think is also competitive dps

[marsh dune]

Oh okay

[slim tusk]

patched

[rain forge]

aw

[median fable]

send your 6* (or better krooster account) if you want good build recommendation because context changes a lot

[astral thorn]

Im basically looking for the hardest one to get sanity wise

[worldly estuary]

Is narantuya S3M3 worth? And if so, should I mod2 her at least?

[outer ermine]

mod2 yes

s3 only if ur not lazy enough to s1

[median fable]

if you lack burst dps option go for Ray, otherwise Ascalon
forget about Vivi for now

[marsh dune]

On progress bcs I can’t receive the verification code for some reason

[median fable]

s3m3 worthy, mod her if you actually will use her (mod2)

[worldly estuary]

Alr thanks

[rocky pilot]

That one thumbnail of logos with 9288 attack in is3

[outer ermine]

death

[marsh dune]

Ou okay. Just that I feel like I lack lane holder

[slim tusk]

lane holder is a relic of ancient era

just cycle your skill

[worldly estuary]

I suppose she can replace kroos2 or work in pair with her
I just lack aerial/ground dps lol

[marsh dune]

Did I do a mistake by e2 Ulpianus?

[lament loom]

No

[median fable]

aerial/ground dps is kinda meh classification
aerial dps matters only in the first chapters with tons of drones

[marsh dune]

Good to hear

[rain forge]

He’s still good

[median fable]

but yeah, she can replace kroos2

[rocky pilot]

I mean ulpi is still good so

[lament loom]

Ulpipi good, s3 very strong. S2 is optional tbh, but good synergy with Gladiia talent on s2 buffs

[rain forge]

he will never not be a good e2

[median fable]

Ulpi can both lanehold and deal burst dmg with s3, consider him a "modern laneholder"

[worldly estuary]

Yeah, most stages have only ground enemies and I can use sakiko/Silverash in the other case

Thanks

[fierce viper]

shud me build [image] or [image] lodestar

[spare jetty]

show roster

[fierce viper]

idk hwo to use it

[rain forge]

if your roster is decently built then I wouldn’t build either of them

[fierce viper]

how use roster

[slender temple]

Show your roster/characters you own

[fierce viper]

k gib me a few min

[rain forge]

https://www.krooster.com

[carmine trout]

meow i finally made a krooster account anyone wanna giv some tips https://www.krooster.com/u/awesome-teal-tiger-65ub

oml it shows my leo skin and puzzle assistant 😵‍💫

[humble nova]

will sash2 and pram2 have mods on release?

[lone valley]

No, yes

[fierce viper]

how do i use it

find user? is there any requirement in the username

[lone valley]

Import by using your yostar login

[fierce viper]

o

[carmine trout]

anyone have any suggestions on who to build?

[fierce viper]

wait how do i check if my accout is bound with yostar account

[carmine trout]

other than wisadel

[rocky pilot]

Are you using guest account to play or?

[fierce viper]

used my google email

the thing is i just dont remmber if i bound with yostar or not

[echo venture]

s3m3 executor alt and give him module
s3m3 wisadel and give her module
s3m3 reedalt

[rocky pilot]

Just https://account.yo-star.com/login

Use the same gmail and sign in when you scroll and see the arknights account and bound to it with the same gmail again

[static glade]

How do you get a unit you want, what ritual must you do, I NEED Degenbrecher

[astral thorn]

For medics I have silence, ptilopsis, Ceylon gavial abd purestream, should I e2 silence?

[rocky pilot]

Good news for you degenbrecher will be out for gold certs sooner or later

[static glade]

[rocky pilot]

If you don't have enough gold certs go spend 30 usd for the 6* voucher when sash2 banner comes ig

If both no just pray

[astral thorn]

How long til sash2?

[rain forge]

#arknights

[rain forge]

Soon™

he’ll come out within the year

[ancient sonnet]

Ascalon, Leizi alt, Reed alt are worth investmenting?

[echo venture]

smh speculating

[fierce viper]

uh help im not receivning any emial verificationf rom kroster
the code

[ancient sonnet]

Check spam

[fierce viper]

i got error retrieving data

[rocky pilot]

Try refreshing

[fierce viper]

oh nvm it works now

[marsh dune]

Just wanna ask, do buffers and debuffers like Shamare have any use? Like they can make your team stronger right?

[rocky pilot]

[fierce viper]

they make your team stronger by making enemies somewhat weaker

[signal dragon]

not needed in general content though

[marsh dune]

Worth to build?

[rocky pilot]

Shamare is uh

[fierce viper]

here https://www.krooster.com/u/fishmael

[marsh dune]

Oh okay, I just watch showcase and they seem strong

[signal dragon]

shamare is niche, the debuff is nice but you rarely need it

[lapis tide]

funniest shit ive seen today ty

[rocky pilot]

I am using this image from now on I see anyone asking when sash2 banner will come

[obsidian holly]

Ascalon module X or Y?

[signal dragon]

x is the movement speed reduction right?
just do mod X 1

[rocky pilot]

E2 shamare can still be used for base if you want to pair her in tp with tequila

[fierce viper]

anyway bac to the question
shud i build thorn
and which thorn

[carmine trout]

is exalter like

[slender temple]

Both thorns are meh

[carmine trout]

worth it tho? i thought lane holders don't need that nuch investment

[rocky pilot]

Just pass both thorns unless you really like him

[lapis tide]

she doesnt hold lanes, she nukes lanes into oblivion

[echo venture]

hes good to have. also you dont have many six stars

[marsh dune]

Oh okay but is trago a good debuffer to build?

[shadow bay]

inb4 thorns need e2 to function

[echo venture]

he means exec alt tho

[carmine trout]

thats true,,,

[marsh dune]

Sorry I just like his design, that’s why Im asking

[rocky pilot]

Definitely worth

[carmine trout]

oh right exalter now means exusiai alter

[signal dragon]

trag is great

[marsh dune]

Thank you

[lapis tide]

so used to calling him fedex 😔

[carmine trout]

hmm how about suzuran is she still good?

[shadow bay]

nope exalter is executer alter

exusia alter is exu alter grr

[signal dragon]

niche

[shadow bay]

she is still that handy of utility unit that can slow and apply fragile in big aoe

[slender temple]

Not sure if he does count as "debuffer" but he's top 3 op so yeah he's pretty much broken

[fierce viper]

yes because cat
the fucking cat lure enemies and apply shit load of nervous impairment

[shadow bay]

if u think about it elem dmg have debuffs

[carmine trout]

https://www.krooster.com/u/awesome-teal-tiger-65ub

[slender temple]

I'd say he works more like a premium executor class

[rocky pilot]

Nervous impairment with a bonus of 6000 elemental damage!

And paralysis

[lapis tide]

the debuff is so good it just kills them

[carmine trout]

oh how about saria

[slender temple]

Good to have ig

[rocky pilot]

Sounds like hibiscus cooking

[marsh dune]

Good to hear, thought he works as debuffer

[slim tusk]

he debuff enemy's iq for pathing

[slender temple]

They can't resist the cat for obvious reasons

[signal dragon]

well yeah who wouldn't want to pet a random cat

[slender temple]

Did they drop any showcase for lemon skin yet? I already saw Surtr's one

[rocky pilot]

https://youtu.be/MmushGC2QOU?si=-aL24GE2FoXhhhfI

[astral thorn]

Is silence worth e2ing

[slender temple]

She works perfectly fine at E1 , doesn't benefits much from E2 anyway

[glossy schooner]

If the rest of the ops you need to E2 are E2 then yes
If not, No.

[rocky pilot]

From what I checked no

[astral thorn]

I dont have an e2 healer

[glossy schooner]

Healers are always last on the E2 priority 99 times out of 100

[astral thorn]

Ahhhh

[rocky pilot]

If it heals enough it works

[signal dragon]

silence fine at E1 50 tbh

[slender temple]

Don't be me and instantly E2 ptilopsis on day 1

[glossy schooner]

E1 works for most if not all healers and those that Need E2 are damn good
Mon3tr is one of such healers since she just gets off her high horse(high ground tile) and starts stabbing like the spine she once was

[rocky pilot]

Nah don't be me and instantly E2 liskarm

[atomic minnow]

Stainless worth building?

[shadow bay]

not a priority

only consider if u need his utilities for whatever reason

[slender temple]

Stainless is not a healer btw

[glossy schooner]

Oh, I’m dumb, didnt know

I guess I was thinking of a different op

[raven ermine]

Then how can you even answer if you don't know what the operator does

[slim tusk]

stainless is reaper healer ril

[glossy schooner]

Again, sorry, just misremembered

[shadow bay]

beaten me to it

[atomic minnow]

Does his dmg buff stack with warfarin?

[shadow bay]

i dont remember it non stackable, so should be

[raven ermine]

Yes, every atk% will stack additively with each others

[shadow bay]

but then again, must be rough needing that much atk buff

[abstract mauve]

buff army in 2026. crazy

[atomic minnow]

Well its nice to see big numbers when using lemuen nuke

[abstract mauve]

exu2 + warfarin already deletes virtually everything

[pine plover]

lemuen nuke boss without even external buff, what?

[shadow bay]

atleast its not those ebenballz one shot shenanigans (man i miss those clips)

[atomic minnow]

I didnt say she doesnt, i just said its nice for those numbers to get bigger

[pine plover]

what the point if the boss die in single s3 anyway

[slender temple]

Just spam bunch of DPS so you don't have to slot in a buffer

[raven ermine]

Well at least lemuen doesn't have a multiplier of her own so it's not the worst target ig

[shadow bay]

seems liks self interest so whatever

[pine plover]

this game doesnt even reward overkill like valkyrie profile

[raven ermine]

Dopamine from big numbers, i can respect that

[pine plover]

masterfully calculate to make skill deals 676767 damage

[slender temple]

I've never seen anything survive a gauntlet of Exu2 S2 Lemuen S3 Mlynar S3 then Sakiko S3 yet so that works too

[abstract mauve]

the slot in more dps agenda from #help

[rain forge]

Hermy I will do things to you

[pine plover]

"corrosion stalling to make boss has 0 DEF" agenda soon™

[abstract mauve]

you bet. i dont think the 6* applier of corrosion will have these limitations tho

[pine plover]

CC back: bloated def buff, wisadel deasl 2 digits damage
CC then: 6 hours of proccing corrossion burst

[opaque remnant]

CC back, CC then?

[pine plover]

[abstract mauve]

CC is just wang victims anyway

what are you gonna do make the enemies 70 res?

[obsidian holly]

Alr thank you

[pine plover]

what limitation anyway? corrosion stack up to 0 DEF remaining is the default effect

[lament loom]

HG loves breaking their own game with their modern ops it seems

[slender temple]

Why don't they just make corrosion percentage base at this poin? Or are the physical DPS too OP for that already

[raven ermine]

The Elem burst cd limitation i assume

[pine plover]

they cut the cd to 8s for player corrosion compared to enemies 10s
and the ritualist corrosion s2 make the cd faster

[abstract mauve]

that's not how the enemy version works and it would be funny lowering is5 ed5 amiya's defense from 11k to 0 permanently in like 4 proccs

[pine plover]

while also doing 120 DEF reduction per stack instead of 100

[lament loom]

0 def Amiya in is5 ed5 oh dear....

The final boss ends up becoming a 0 def slug atp

[slender temple]

Can do something like 10% of current defense so it never goes down to 0, but works more effectively on bloated def enemies

[pine plover]

From Enemy: The victim takes 800 Physical damage and inflicted with -100 DEF (stacks). Cooldown 10s
From Ally: The victim takes 5000 Elemental damage and inflicted with -120 DEF (stacks). Cooldown 8s

[tough ginkgo]

How can I know if people invite me to co-op even if I didn't enter the co-op lobby?

[lapis tide]

very small blink on the notification at the top left of your menu screen

[slender temple]

Ulpianus eating corrosion

[pine plover]

ulpianus eating bear +100% damage taken

[raven ermine]

Well why then
Depending on the amount of defense it would be strictly worse
Huge amount of def wouldn't care about 10%
Low amount of def wouldn't benefit from it being %based compared to flat
You'd just be nerfing your ceobe for fun

[pine plover]

it's not even fun

[slender temple]

Idk the idea of corrosion as of now isn't that fun either

[raven ermine]

Because it released on a 5* and you have no clue how they will integrate it on a 6* kit

[lapis tide]

they will just release it to see how it fares and then make a 6 stars with none of the issues another year down the line like they always do dont worry

[pine plover]

the 6star can just double DEF reduction per proc

[valid karma]

whihc to build surtr or viviana

[raven ermine]

Like do you think burn was anything special when it released on warmy

[abstract mauve]

it still isnt special tbh. neither is necrosis. paralysis is tho

[pine plover]

it still is

[pseudo flume]

Surtr

[raven ermine]

That's true 🥹
At least we have funny gen slop comps now

[pine plover]

they could have make a freeze elemental injury
call it Hypothermia or something

[pseudo flume]

J0bless is that you

[slender temple]

Maybe it's just that NI was too good for an elemental effect

[abstract mauve]

it is true. i am in fact jobless

[pine plover]

but are you also drunkard like pallas?

[raven ermine]

Well it's undoubtedly better than the other elem procs for sure, but the actual unit using it is cracked out of it's mind too
If NI was tied to thorns delta i assure you it would still be shit

[marsh dune]

Lmfao wtf

[rocky pilot]

Just ask silverash for a job

[slender temple]

Can do something like "frostbite" that CC enemies and make them take % base more dmg for a period

[glass mango]

He also jobless recently

[pine plover]

smh, elden ringer

[pseudo flume]

That just depends on the Kit of the op

Burn has bad rep because its stuck with Hag2

[pine plover]

make ursus' dominion into elemental injury instead

[mild yacht]

That’s just ‘cold’.

[subtle dawn]

How else should I upgrade my team after I get logo's mod and then specialise his s3 to lvl 3?

[slender temple]

Hey you can slander me all you want but not the game

[pseudo flume]

Mod2 Surtr, Mod3 SA

[raven ermine]

silverash s3m3 mod3
Surtr s3m3 mod2

[pine plover]

maybe actually wait for surtr 2nd mod news

[abstract mauve]

ril

[raven ermine]

She's getting one with the new ursus event ?

[pseudo flume]

That's a good idea

[subtle dawn]

What is m3?

[opaque remnant]

send your krooster

[pseudo flume]

Mastery 3

[raven ermine]

That would be mastery 3

[pine plover]

skadibard, surtr, and nymph are getting 2nd mod
for nymph, the module icon implies SP related trait upgrade

[subtle dawn]

Ok but it ain't updated, logos, silverash, surtr, and mountain all have lvl 7 skills

[raven ermine]

Skadibard

[pseudo flume]

That's a buff for nymph ngl

[slender temple]

I doubt her 2nd mod would be better tho, could be wrong

[subtle dawn]

Oh like specialising it 3 times right?

[safe tundra]

wdf diamond

[pseudo flume]

Who knows if HG will do a plot twist

[pine plover]

inb4 gain SP on proccing necrosis burst

[raven ermine]

Damn it's not delta for surtr, still no burn

[abstract mauve]

her current mod isnt allat. why not make her a better 2nd mod

[pseudo flume]

It might regress like what happened with Exalt

[pine plover]

gain buff when undying proc

[raven ermine]

Skadi module is garbo tho, so i'm praying for a better one

[abstract mauve]

exalt had a good first mod tho

[safe tundra]

its best to wait because modD thorns ended up being worse than his first mod

[abstract mauve]

please no unless it's 3x damage

[pseudo flume]

That's my point, what if the 1st mod is the good mod

[abstract mauve]

exalt's first mod was actually good tho. surtr mod i wouldnt call that at least

[subtle dawn]

https://www.krooster.com/u/wise-gold-durin-28bc here's my krooster

[slender temple]

I mean what could they cook with her 2nd talent, I got no idea

[abstract mauve]

could just buff the same talent as first mod

[opaque remnant]

you can update your krooster by reimporting

[pseudo flume]

Update your Krooster

[pine plover]

we have 2 operator with both module upgrading same talent, virtuosa talent 2 and fartooth talent 1

[slender temple]

Unless it's something like after receiving fetal dmg, deals double dmg for 5 sec then retreat

[subtle dawn]

Okie

[formal shadow]

silence2 talent 2

[subtle dawn]

Also is there any banners coming up with characters that I might replace surtr and silverash with? Cuz I don't want to invest a lot into them if I'm just gonna replace them soon

[safe tundra]

that bum has two mods?

[slender temple]

Sash2

[formal shadow]

cuz she's a 6*

[abstract mauve]

wdym bum

[safe tundra]

erm

[pine plover]

welfare isnt real

[subtle dawn]

Isn't he a vanguard replacement?

[proven kelp]

Her 2nd mod is Mod Y no?
Arts Guard ModD has a different icon

[abstract mauve]

first mod is good for general survivability increase and 2nd mod is good for panic button barrier applier

[hexed adder]

Its mod Y ye

[safe tundra]

yeah idr what surtr’s first was

[slender temple]

Team building doesn't work that way but whatever, you can quite keep SA tho he can be handy sometimes

[unreal fable]

is this good enough? 6 pulls in

[abstract mauve]

yes. that is very good

[safe tundra]

roswao emoji

[slender temple]

Yeah good, keep this one

[boreal steeple]

Can somebody send icebreaker team code?

[shadow bay]

ur rly set lmao... nice one beating rng

[formal shadow]

would've preferred +sanc lowkey on one of them at least

[abstract mauve]

any more and she'd give close to 90% on s2

[unreal fable]

i can finally start the game XD

i guess i should also recruit?

[shadow bay]

oh so tequila now kept at e1

[grand wigeon]

Do we have any info on all purchasable packs for the retracing steps patch?

[raven ermine]

Also singles on your newbie banner until your first 6* there

[abstract mauve]

would've been better yeah but unlikely they go with it

[pine plover]

just prepare the moolah

jp already announced the date for livestream on 8th
so the event will be very soon

[rain forge]

Have we gotten the ursus side story date yet

[proven kelp]

Mod Y Surtr probs gonna be meh
Needing to block means she will be forced to actually face tank the hard hitting enemies, so she will have less time for s3

And it likely to take her immortality talent, which just probs extend it to 10 sec or smh

Im not sure if you would rather lose 8 aspd with more res ignore than longer immortality

[proven kelp]

Tequila doesn't really get much from e2 anyway
Its unlikely for a newbie to afford Mastery

[opaque remnant]

base skill-

[abstract mauve]

mastery doesnt do a whole lot for him as well

[slender temple]

No shamare no party, it's not allat

[abstract mauve]

sl7 is his main breakpoint

[neon siren]

Holy beginner 🤩

[unreal fable]

pretty lucky, about 50 rerolls?

[boreal steeple]

Reminds me of you

[neon siren]

It's worth it trust, lemeun plus degen brecher crazy, alr IS4 with degen, wis borrow for IS5, and by then u can do other IS, sa2 banner soon too.

[boreal steeple]

Lemu is better than degen for is4

[neon siren]

My offrates were crazy lol

[unreal fable]

i have no idea what half of these are, but i'll get back here in a few weeks

[rain forge]

son im crine you aren’t even 3 months old yet

[safe tundra]

🐘

[neon siren]

Hmm yea lmao

[brazen gulch]

all i'm saying is that i'd much rather have an e2 tequila on my account right now that's at least better than average in base than e2 specter who does nothing nowhere

[rain forge]

Anyways in simpler terms degenbrecher and lemuen are pretty good operators

they should be your main priority to e2 first

[neon siren]

LMFAO
72 days

[safe tundra]

both of them are shafted from combat sooner or later once you get the 6*

[rain forge]

Raise your entire team to around e1 level 40 then focus on raising degen and lemuen to e2

[brazen gulch]

precisely

[slender temple]

Well, different perspective. Since both you and I know what we're doing doesn't mean a newbie does

Both got throw into oblivion later anyway

[safe tundra]

but specter is easily more serviceable since what you want from her are 3 block, the talent and the almost no need to mastery her skills

[boreal steeple]

Tbh I'd rather raise degen first since her 2 other skills are offrec

[shadow bay]

yeh do see him sufficient at e1, just thought he is that poweful of a dps thats accesible hence the peeps give him the resources (although i do see him selled as such so he can also work in base, which also on same boat not having his team to work out anyway for a newbie)

and yeh, if one would rly use specter in a new account she works better at e2

seems like this consensus been weighted out

[rain forge]

What effect does tequila e2 have

[safe tundra]

reflect talent increase which is sort of slight

[rain forge]

does it just boost that useless ass talent of his that reflects dmg

[hidden wolf]

No no no u wasted pulls when very good banner a few weeks away : 😢

[boreal steeple]

Kill patriot /jk

[abstract mauve]

access to masteries and module

[brazen gulch]

i know this talk was had many times over, i'm just passively doing "e2 tequila propaganda"

[rain forge]

so instead of 3 damage he does 5 dmg

[safe tundra]

big if true

[abstract mauve]

reflect talent is only usable when you get mod for him

[formal shadow]

he also make the unit behind him reflect damage

[rain forge]

It’s fine dude he’s new he can get those pulls back by simply doing story

[slender temple]

Since I'm a guy who E2ed medic on his first day, I'm actually not bother with both

[abstract mauve]

that's with mod2+ only

[indigo spoke]

hmm is there a channel i can get the code to join a team in new event?

[neon siren]

It's 6 pulls, he's new too, je could prolly get around 150 plus pulls before that banner ends with a borrow and his Operators

(If he hard grinds)

[rain forge]

so 10 damage against mortars 🥹

[shadow bay]

#icebreaker-lockers

[safe tundra]

byeah once you get 6* operators you wont have the time nor resources for mastery or module for either of these two

[abstract mauve]

brother he deletes the mortars even when they are invisible. in 8 shots but in 4 shots if there's someone behind him lmao

[safe tundra]

idek if youll use them either

who the fuck reacting som bullshi

[brazen gulch]

honestly, i'd rather have an e2 ptilo or silence over specter too now 😭

[abstract mauve]

unironically one of the best solutions against the mortars

[lapis tide]

honestly by the time you get to the point where you start to regret your early game raises, they are already like drops in an ocean

don't think too hard about it unless you literally need roach to clear a stage level of casual

[proven kelp]

My guy is really grasping straws lol

[winter crystal]

Unless you E2 provi first and don’t have enough to even clear the stages to get tequila

[neon siren]

I think that's the point most players find out that the roach exists

[proven kelp]

No? If they have an E2 then they can just Borrow a carry

[lapis tide]

reminds me of how everyone is like e2 myrtle first and myrtle does nothing for them yea lol

[proven kelp]

Not like you need Tequila day 1

[slender temple]

At some point I'm starting to think that using Exu2 is not far off from using Wis, she's starting to cause some brain dmg on me ig

[winter crystal]

Yeah for the newbies that refuse to borrow the first E2 can make a difference

[safe tundra]

training ticket werent distributed at the time so you went for the cheapest possible upgrade

[brazen gulch]

idk man an e2 voucher yesterday is still an e2 voucher today. i'm not saying having an e2 specter is now somehow causing me insane trouble now because i'm now 1 exp short of upgrading a unit or smth XD. i just wish i had the foresight/my current knowledge back then, which tbh you always wish you had in all things life

[neon siren]

I can't wait for some newbie to reroll 300 times to off rate a wisadel

[dense bridge]

Skill/s and mod to upgrade?

[light latch]

Cheapest possible upgrade on a unit that doesnt benefit from it instead of any other 4* is certainly a choice

[neon siren]

S3 m3 preferably

[formal shadow]

3 mod2

[winter crystal]

They will try but we won’t see them bc they will have completely burnt themselves out from arknights

[grizzled galleon]

Mb killari but do you know where I can find the full image?

[pine plover]

the one who draw Wisadel's april fools skin apparently is the author of Pop Team Epic himself, Bkub Okawa

[neon siren]

[safe tundra]

i certainly didnt agree to this at the time

[humble nova]

what are all the keybinds

[lapis tide]

regardless of how efficient you went about it you were always gonna hit a resource farm wall at one point, so you just gotta make what you have already raised work

[brazen gulch]

i know

[neon siren]

It's inevitable

[winter crystal]

@proven kelp

[brazen gulch]

i will ask santa for 1mil lmd on Christmas

[neon siren]

1mil gets over quickly, ask for 1 bil

[brazen gulch]

yeah tbh

[safe tundra]

🧑‍🦲

[proven kelp]

Full image is just a separate list for Top Operator

Senior List is just those, all other Senior op that isn't listed aren't worth mentioning because they're just not worth raising

[shadow bay]

u can also wait for a little more, and see if her new mod gonna be better to her current one

[winter crystal]

Ty

[humble nova]

for those who dont know what my question meant, Im asking for keybinds that are keys on your keyboard used to interact with the game's interface

[slender temple]

May I ask wtf is going on on the right

[proven kelp]

Agenda

[formal shadow]

noone here has ak@pc probs

[winter crystal]

Wdym that’s normal

[neon siren]

[humble nova]

emulators exist, i just wanna know if the game has default keybinds, if not. What are the recommended keybinds?
I did space for the pause with keymapping, but im not sure if its worth putting keybinds for x2 and such

[formal shadow]

there are?

[humble nova]

yes multiple or few for pc and mac

[proven kelp]

I mean, Keybinds are your preference

[lapis tide]

you can also bind skill activation but map sizes can fuck with it sometimes

[winter crystal]

Do people really use key binds?

[formal shadow]

eh let me just get a preset keymap for ya

[brazen gulch]

the game does not set the keybinds, the emulators do. we can't tell you without you telling us your emulator

[humble nova]

oh oof @winter crystal at least putting a key on the pause is really handy rather than dragging your mouse to the button

[brazen gulch]

apparently yeah, i also kinda just don't feel a need for them

[spare jetty]

yes
it just u doesn't see it much

[winter crystal]

Am I just just crazy to play this game almost 100% on my phone

[lapis tide]

its a game changer but just like pause deploy you can always play without keybinds

[humble nova]

im currently using playcover nightly version. Just wanted to make sure the details in regard of keybinding. I'll prob keep mine with space bar on pause. and maybe another on x2 speed.

[slender temple]

Same here, mostly because I don't have freaking much time to play anything else

[humble nova]

oh yeah idk how to use the "pause deploy" technique, how does that work

or is it a mobile thing

[lapis tide]

you just select and drag someone then hit the pause button with a keybind or something in simple terms

[proven kelp]

Just drag an op then pause

[humble nova]

lemme try that rq

[formal shadow]

you can do one keybind for pause, one for x2, one for skill activation, one for retreating

[winter crystal]

Usually if I see a pause deploy being useful it’s bc my approach was wrong to begin with. Unless I’m doing some sort of meme clear I shouldn’t need it or at least haven’t had to

[safe tundra]

i play on emulatio because i value my battery life

[proven kelp]

Last time i used a Pause Deploy is to make my auto look cooler by retreating everyone at once

[winter crystal]

Or I’m just good at timing stuff

[humble nova]

oh I couldnt use the pause button when dragging cuz the game removes the pause button from being interactable howeverr, if I press the esc button which I asume is the settings icon, it pauses it normally like the pause button. Interesting

[lapis tide]

my coop partners suffering from my habit of micropausing probably wondering if im trying to troll or not

[humble nova]

so real. I saw it on a video of a full vanguard team with sash2 clearing the stage in 4 seconds or something that was my first time

[winter crystal]

Get use to using pause deploy then play h15-4 😂

[brazen gulch]

you can actually request to pause?

[humble nova]

LOL

[proven kelp]

Theres a pause button for a reason

[lapis tide]

yea thats what i mean i keep hitting pause on habit to do small reads on the map

[brazen gulch]

i thought the button just didn't work. ic ic

[humble nova]

for me it didnt work at all until I key map it. Esc is the setting icon and space (if not designed already) for pause. You cant pause during drag for some emulators like mine. But esc works apparently by default (for my emu at least)

[craggy quiver]

how good is the current Targeted OP banner? 🤔 am at 200 pulls and i do have Degen

[brazen gulch]

in my emulator i only use ESC which is bound to the "back button"/"swipe from the side of a screen" system action and that's it /shrug

[slender temple]

Then you have like 50% to flop in this banner, cuz hool ain't allat, I'd not recommend

[humble nova]

lemuen is rlly good, but hooleyak or whatever in there make it less appealing to pull

[craggy quiver]

hmhmhm i see, thank you! :D

[humble nova]

does your emulator allow you to keymap?

(ik he aint ignoring me )

[opaque remnant]

read the pins

[signal dragon]

sa pram banner soon so just save

[craggy quiver]

oh huh, that escaped my vision in the pins, ty! :D

[distant sky]

Which one I choose ? Eyjafjalla or Surtr ?

[formal shadow]

who do you have

[opaque remnant]

what does your account look like

[carmine trout]

Wheres is this from :o

İ would love a bagpipe on my acc,,

[opaque remnant]

free 6 star selector from the anniv

[carmine trout]

wait when was anniv

[pine plover]

couple months ago

[humble nova]

Are these gonna be available in the next annihilation refresh (9 days left)?

[carmine trout]

ggs,, missed it i just got back into the game a week ago

[opaque remnant]

Just so you know, bagpipe is the worst option there

[carmine trout]

Ehh rly?

[ancient sonnet]

They are on the list of "next mission" so probably

[median fable]

she offers nth relevant in today's meta while we can cope the other three

[humble nova]

ok good

Are all laterno ops snipers?

[pine plover]

1 stroker, 1 sentry, 2 geek, 1 primal guard, 1 charger, 1 lord guard, 1 ritualist

[median fable]

1 caster (mostima alter)

[craggy quiver]

(Random example)

[median fable]

there is also fiammetta

[pine plover]

is fiammetta not sniper?

[proven kelp]

Do they?
I mean, atleast Bagpipe has the excuse for convenience sake for speedrunning stage

The other 3 doesn't even have that

[mild yacht]

”Are all Laterano snipers?”
Lists sniper

[median fable]

yeah, I'm getting old

[pine plover]

time to put you down

[humble nova]

shes a laterno?!? I thought all laternos have halos

[mild yacht]

Laterano is a place. Sankta is a race.

[pine plover]

it literally said "place of birth"

[proven kelp]

Even if you mistook Laterano to Sankta
Miksa is a Defender

[slender temple]

There's also a dude with a shotgun who apparently is a guard

[abstract mauve]

Miksa is also my goat 🗣️

[abstract mauve]

Executor the Ex fjewklf

[pine plover]

i dont know you have grandpa fetish

[abstract mauve]

i have a goat fetish. cuz he's the goat

[pine plover]

shure

[proven kelp]

[median fable]

Surtr is still a burst dps option, an old one but better than nth especially if new to the game
Eyja is still better than lower rarity art dps and better than like half of the caster roster (speaks a lot about the class)
Saria is still a comfy option to use if lacking Shu, which again is good in a new account
Bagpipe on the other hand is like 🚮 , Sash2 is coming soon and a new account won't really need her in any case

[winter crystal]

Wut…what did i miss

[pine plover]

crazy helidrop tech of eyja s3 modY

[median fable]

if you're not new, pick the one who you like more or simply get more gold certs

[abstract mauve]

eyja mody tech dealing less damage than mod x

[median fable]

eyja s2 is also a good res debuff, was used in some ccb3 clears

we have many res debuff and their usage is niche, but certainly better than bagpipe imo

[proven kelp]

I mean i assumed you meant are for non newbie player since you said "Today's Meta"

Today's meta implies that the players you are talking about actually has those meta ops, which newbie doesn't really have. since otherwise it would be irrelevant for them

[abstract mauve]

does today's meta imply that the person has sash2?

[median fable]

today's meta = state of the game today, newbie and non newbie both included

if it's for today meta all three of them are better than bagpipe simply because you can cope the others but you can't cope bagpipe with the agents (the good ones) and sash2 existing

[proven kelp]

I don't see the cope for the other 3 aside from Eyja, for a Vet atleast

I used Bagpipe more than those 3 combined in my years of playing

[pine plover]

saria cope for shu-less

[slim tusk]

why my saria not tp ing enemy

[proven kelp]

I still use Bagpipe cuz she's convenient to bring, i don't need all of my slots to win, 4 slots missing is still more than enough to massacre the stage 10 times over

I find it more convenient to dump my units faster than bringing some washed dps that i have no use whatsoever

[craggy quiver]

i throw Hoshi alter at every tankyness issue, personally 😆

[median fable]

you're using bagpipe because you're still using flags, that's it

I also bring Schwarz to boost my Lemuen/Wisadel, I won't cope her though

[eager totem]

how much total dp is surfer modless sl7

[proven kelp]

Like for a old player, Bagpipe has more value than those 3 simply because you can actually still use her convenience

The same can't be said for the other 3, they don't really have anything over other ops because their roles are simply stats stick, theres no reason to bring them in todays meta because bringing a modern dps is much better
While efficiency wise, bringing Bagpipe is worse than Agent, she still fills a role of a allowing me to speedrun the stage by dumping all of my VG in seconds
Theres literally nothing those 3 will ever provide that other units can't do better since they're simply stats sticks

[median fable]

2 dp from talent + 1 dp for each attack*17 seconds of s1 activation=19

[median fable]

the point is that except Surtr you can actually cope Eyja and Saria even in hard content

[slim tusk]

just dump all your unit with sash2 ril
and get the gold cert

[eager totem]

after rdp its only net 6 dp gain?? thats so much worse than i thought
nvm i dont have max pot

[proven kelp]

Aside from that one CCB3 Eyja usage, what does Saria and Eyja even do?

[reef zinc]

Is it worth pulling in the new banner?

[eager totem]

saria is such a good tanking option if u have nothing else!,

[proven kelp]

I would rather just dump Ulpi at my probems
or you know, Hoshi2

[abstract mauve]

me personally, sankta miksaparato

[fiery swift]

Is it worth it to pull in this banner considering that the limited banner is close?

[winter crystal]

Also factor in retreating her

[median fable]

Saria and Eyja were one of the main solver for the last garrison stage in vector
if you want to talk about every day usage Saria still good for people lacking Shu (many don't have her)

[abstract mauve]

no. the banner isnt worth it regardless of what future banners we have

[fiery swift]

🫶

[eager totem]

they cant keep teammates alive
but idk man i dont think u need teammates when they kinda wipe everything

[raven ermine]

Saria has a niche
Granted it never comes up but she does have one
She's used in RA contention for stall/arts amp
Outside of it tho, she might as well be gummy

[winter crystal]

You poor = no (❤️)

[median fable]

I can cope Saria s3 more than +6dp when agents and sash2 exists

[nocturne topaz]

Guys when is SA banner?

[median fable]

since it effectively stack with other sources of res debuff if you ever need it

[fiery swift]

How does one determine

[formal shadow]

<300 pulls is poor

[abstract mauve]

even considering your reserves, you have barely above the recommended amount of pulls to have for a limited banner to be slightly more likely than not to get the limited unit from it

[fiery swift]

I'll grind 300pull before the update drops trust

[raven ermine]

For everyday content, i can see the bagpipe argument
But that's just comfort and qol, it's just up to personal preference, the unit is basically +6 sp for 2 slots in exchange for a team slot
Might come up in some niche CC clear here and there every year or so, but bp is very low value too

[median fable]

I'm not even hating on flagpipe, as you said you have 12 slots and if you use an extra slot for bagpipe no one will die
I just don't see it relevant enough compared to the other in the selector since I can use a better vanguard than the flags while at least Eyja and Saria has sth "niche" that it's not completely useless

[fiery swift]

What's the reccomended amount of pulls?

[glass mango]

Hey handsomes hypothetically speaking if I purchase 3 monthly card now will I have barely 300 pulls for Sash2

[winter crystal]

Limited banners are highest prio, save 150 pulls to be comfy for them.

If you have excess you can start to plan which standard banners before the limited might be worth pulling on for your account.

This next limited banner is less then a month out and you have like 60 pulls saved

[light latch]

Bagpipe key component of lazyknights

[fiery swift]

Ty❤️

[median fable]

it's because you haven't used Ines s1 🥹

[ivory terrace]

except stacking cards only extend duration
not multiply the effect

[light latch]

lazyknights = higher tier of afknights where the goal is to minimize the amount of time spent watching the stage

[median fable]

it's not #help if we don't talk about vanguards one time a day for real

[glass mango]

I know 18 OPs is 18 OPs then
Love you

[winter crystal]

IS attack speed tech

[abstract mauve]

i only talk about vanguards to shit on them. the only ones worth respecting are ines and sash2 anyway

[median fable]

forgetting about the goat Mumu

[abstract mauve]

[light latch]

This disqualifies typhon, thorns, and haruka, and half your squad is made up of instant dp effects like texas s2, bagpipe, and a bunch of flag vgs

[fiery swift]

I have like 100 saved but like can we get off banner limiteds too?

[abstract mauve]

it's a bit rare to have that happen
but it can happen

[pine plover]

inb4 HG release a non-vanguard but capable of DP-recovery operator

[glass mango]

Oh you gonna need some help
Both financial and mental help

[winter crystal]

Yes you have a chance at pulling lemuen or degen etc on limited banners that’s why they are prio over everything else (besides the fact that limiteds are “limited”)

[median fable]

you can get all the limited ops under 20 pulls in theory

[fiery swift]

I love the name

[median fable]

if you're lucky enough with 100 pulls you can get all of them at max pot

[light latch]

Idr the exact rate for offbaner limiteds, its not high but its not zero either

[hidden wolf]

What does m3 s3 mean

[eager totem]

skill 3 mastery 3

[winter crystal]

Used car salesman energy 🥀

[glass mango]

Mastery 3 for Skill 3

[ancient sonnet]

skill 3 mastery 3

[light latch]

its high enough u pick them up overtime as u pull over a bunch of limited banners

[fiery swift]

Which uh skill for ascalon?

[median fable]

it's in the pins

[abstract mauve]

definitely not. you have to get lucky

[hidden wolf]

Mastery is module or

[ivory terrace]

mastery is for skills

[eager totem]

the 3 levels after skill level 7

[mild yacht]

Mastery is mastery, module is module.

[abstract mauve]

module is an entirely different system

[median fable]

it's low enough that aiming at what you said is coping

[left tulip]

It’s a pain in the ass

[eager totem]

people who reroll for wis start

[median fable]

in between getting only W copies for the next 3 years

[ancient sonnet]

s2 is recommended
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/edit?gid=1957249969#gid=1957249969

[median fable]

rerolling for Wisadel was like 100 accounts iirc, I don't remember honestly

1 in 300 accounts, I correct myself

[left tulip]

Youre 30% to get an off rate when you get a 6 star and the off rate pool is fucking gigantic

[winter crystal]

Yeah thats hell

[left tulip]

I lowkey would consider that

[abstract mauve]

hi chat, when arts defender mod?

[median fable]

300 multi instance guest accounts just to get a wisadel account 🥹

[glass mango]

Very soon

[abstract mauve]

is this true?

[left tulip]

If what it takes is a spark

[median fable]

sash2 event iirc (at least hoshi2 got here her mod)

[winter crystal]

You could get a minimum wage job work the same amount of time it would take to reroll all those accounts and have enough money to buy 300 pulls

[abstract mauve]

[glass mango]

Don't worry I love men not telling lies
Earliest will be early May

[opaque remnant]

how much does it improve hoshi2

[abstract mauve]

who cares about hoshi2 tho

[median fable]

kinda huge mod for her, ngl

[left tulip]

Nuuuuhhhhhh its ok im happy if i get any of the offrate ups anyway

[boreal steeple]

30% ig, her mod2 is crazy difference basically

[median fable]

she's like best total arts dmg in the game, surpassing even Logos with like 220k dmg

[light latch]

the pins estimates it at about a 55-59% chance per 300 pulls

[opaque remnant]

30% more damage on S3?

[boreal steeple]

Yea, on any skill

[abstract mauve]

depends on the skill

[median fable]

cureently it's 180k (s3 context)

[opaque remnant]

pretty useful

[abstract mauve]

the talent change is +15% atk when max tenacity iirc. so it affects each skill differently cuz +atk% is additive to eachother

[median fable]

obv she dies while logos will still remain on stage, but still

[opaque remnant]

mod3 needed or no

[winter crystal]

When are we getting monster mod again? Or I guess which event?

[glass mango]

Needed

[fiery torrent]

so there is this event for hiring a top op. i hit refresh to get something good along with it and its gone. it hasnt come back. did i miss my chance with it?

[abstract mauve]

didnt start yet

[ivory terrace]

nasti event in CN

[median fable]

biggest gain is at mod2, but we'll probably recommend mod3 anyway since lower requirement for the tenacity

[winter crystal]

Ty

[slim tusk]

did you refresh a to tag?

[left tulip]

Wait where’s this, in roadless?

[opaque remnant]

how many more months for ray 2nd mod...

[median fable]

mod1 gains are the biggest iirc since it's a free 10% dmg

[boreal steeple]

Tenacity remains the same 35%, her tenacity threshold lowers by 10%

[pine plover]

refresh is full refresh, even the game warn you about it before confirmation

[jaunty heron]

what's the gimmick for this fight to end3?

[ivory terrace]

dun know if it has the link but
bit.ly/AKModules

[glass mango]

Wang balls hit hard and enemies placement is cancer

[boreal steeple]

Mod2, mod3 is just lower tenacity threshold and slightly more baseatk

[abstract mauve]

"While at maximum bonus, ATK+15%" part

[proven kelp]

Roadless has one on the Event List

[fiery torrent]

did it? i saw 6 star and was like "well lets see before i go to bed" but i didnt read it all i was in a hurry but ok

[left tulip]

What does it do?

[jaunty heron]

wang is here?

[glass mango]

Only his balls

[winter crystal]

If you have hoshi2 it’s a breeze, if you have reedalt, it’s a breeze, if you only have ranged ops and no healers you’re gonna have a rough time

[abstract mauve]

is6 ed3

[boreal steeple]

Oh right

[lapis tide]

if ops are surrounded by only the balls and edges of the map they get perma stunned and die, the melee enemies put talismans on anything nearby so theres very few safe tiles

[fiery torrent]

i just didnt want a defender lol

[eager totem]

theres like 2 safe spots
go to the is guide thing to read about it its pretty detailed
also do remember to read is3 boss fight or u get absolutely fucked over

[pine plover]

the one you refreshed isnt even part of special recruitment guaranteed but 0.2% chance of tag appearance

[left tulip]

Wait what guide

[eager totem]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/

[abstract mauve]

if you mean the stage, he's talking about the stones. wang doesnt appear in is6 ed3 prereq. (prerequiste stage to being able to do the ed3 boss fight)

[jaunty heron]

gosh i only have 2 ranged op to carry me this whole is

[left tulip]

Ohhhh ty

[fiery torrent]

huh?

[unreal fable]

should i E2 spectre if I already have degen? early game

[eager totem]

its also pinned in is station btw

[lapis tide]

roach can work because she has self camo, else you need to figure out the safe tiles and clear out the hazards first

[fiery torrent]

yes she is great definitely one of the best 5 stars

[eager totem]

mans back from rerolling

[winter crystal]

Well melee shine on that stage like mylnar lezi2 hishi2 sakiko etc

[jaunty heron]

i only have exualt and raidian so am i cooked

[pine plover]

the guaranteed top op is given later after major maintenance update

[fiery torrent]

so there will be another?

[ancient sonnet]

You get one top op from this event

[pine plover]

yeah, but you just burn the lucky 0.2% one

[midnight sphinx]

Guys, should i use blacknight or mitm for ranged dp recovery unit?

[lapis tide]

if you dont have any ground units capable of clearing the hazards fast then yes

ranged tiles are all unsafe if its not wisadel

[fiery torrent]

i doubt that was just a random top choice when the event had just started. but oh well just wanted to see.

[slim tusk]

both is mainly staller,not much for dp

[zenith bane]

Whos the other limited operations on silver ash alter banner? I think wisadel is on there im thinking of making a new acc and get like 2-3 6* I want. Just asking for the banner details

[pine plover]

it is random

[unreal fable]

for senior op, is there a target or i try to match as much as possible for https://old.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1m16fz8/recruitment_tag_guide_july_16th_2025/ ?

[winter crystal]

Radian S2 and place both in the upper right, place exu2 first to clear ballz then radian placed next to her and use S2 to cope clear the stage

[ivory terrace]

with those tags? nah

[fiery torrent]

not like it would give me my wife W anyway

[pine plover]

10 gold cert is 10 gold cert

[left tulip]

You have pramanix as the other rate up not limited and all the limiteds of this time of the year in the offrate pool, with offrate rate ups being lappalt wis and virtuosa

[humble nova]

for SSS wisadel s1 right?

[eager totem]

that picture refers to the combination that would guarantee 4/5*s and senior tag already guarantees a 5 star so jsut check pins to see what u want
for your usual tags (no senior op or top op) try to get those specific combinations to get as much 4 stars and 5 stars as possible

[zenith bane]

Hmm I see I think I'm rr for silver ash alter w alter and virtuosa since I dont have them on my main

[jaunty heron]

oh wait i'm fine

[abstract mauve]

nice

[winter crystal]

For SSS you do whatever

[lapis tide]

good job

[eager totem]

please check the ed3 sorry boss mechanic
speaking from personal experience

[jaunty heron]

i have read wang for a few times now, will do more if i want to beat him

[winter crystal]

Bubble, saria, gummie, Myrtle….2022

[pine plover]

just avoid getting weiqi'd by the marble pieces

[hollow summit]

any good caster banner upcoming?

[jaunty heron]

i just started 1 month ago soo

[abstract mauve]

setting up the ed3 fight is the hardest part. other than that, during phase change, wang brings all the stones to surround your ops so if you havent been killing them, it can be a problem

[winter crystal]

Oh yeah btw for ending 3 your ops have a %max hp burn. Radian summons aren’t affected by it so use S2 to clear out all the balls to place your other ops

[left tulip]

gang do i get a third beanstalk or do i go fast redeploy

[candid badger]

yeah in silverash alter banner

[raven ermine]

frd if you don't have gravel for base

[abstract mauve]

it doesnt matter. you'll get all 4* from recruitment eventually

[pine plover]

take both and let the fate decide

[left tulip]

i have one gravel already

[opaque remnant]

it doesn't matter much in the long run, just get either since you'll farm gold cert from them

[hollow summit]

I heard that she's niche, is that true?

[unreal fable]

would this mean we try to match any of above, or the bottom row (just senior)?

[ancient belfry]

How much stats does trust give?

[raven ermine]

then you don't care

[shadow bay]

is she max pot?

[left tulip]

is it worth tryna stack pot on one same op

[opaque remnant]

fate decided to drop both tags then

[lapis tide]

max pot gravel is kinda good though so up to you

[winter crystal]

If you have senior tag you listen to the bottom row

[eager totem]

the very bottom
the top row is for top op (6*s)
and senior is for 5 stars

[raven ermine]

You'll get all recruitment 4* to max pot eventually
Really does not matter

[unreal fable]

ah i see, thought they are both yellow/senior, thanks!

[winter crystal]

You can find that info on the wiki

[lone valley]

Operator dependant

[shadow bay]

i would max pot those 4 stars...

beside gravel being nice at p6 due to her nature, every time u recruit her that 1 gold cert

[left tulip]

then ill get the 1 dp cheaper gravel (or jaye )

[candid badger]

niche ... just watch her playstyle in yt

[jaunty heron]

will do thanks

[eager totem]

where

[quaint valve]

I still havent touch icebreaker, it doesnt have daily mission right?

[shadow bay]

also later on the game ur recruitment action will be chasing mostly for 4 stars for the gold cert

ofc u still get 5 and 6 star if it permits

[raven ermine]

Jaye is decent for base at e0 too if you collect often

[shadow bay]

not rly, but the hype boost daily do help to finish rewards asap

[quaint valve]

Oh okay. Hope the hype still there next few days. Last time i try (last year), laggy as hell.. thus i skip entirely.

[shadow bay]

u do get boost daily till certain cap... u can also ofc just do all of the event in last few days, but ig if u can lessen the burder if grinding the event, unless u just dont rly care that much to let say medals

rowing, and bastion defence on 2nd half do take some time... esp bastion lol... not to mention that ping

[rocky pilot]

Icebreaker is more tolerable this time around at least for me

[lapis tide]

the pain of trying to play things with tight activation timing like zuo le on 300 ping while on 2x

[rocky pilot]

Idk I never played the last one I only returned to playing arknights this year

[raven ermine]

Doesn't have soccer 🚮

[shadow bay]

they rly didn't bother with the ping issue

[lapis tide]

last year was all roach, your partner either roached and won the map by themselves or they lost you the game taking up all the tiles

which was unfun regardless of outcome so you really didnt miss out

[raven ermine]

Didn't have any issues, you can carry alone

[eager totem]

ohh thanks

[hidden wolf]

M3S3 sakiko or silverash e2 first

[lapis tide]

yea for sure but you cant solo queue and nobody ever retreats their roach minions unfortunately

[shadow bay]

expanding roster seems good of idea esp if still only have handful of dps

[olive mulch]

how can weedy is high tier and saria/surtr in bottom

[lapis tide]

because she isn't replaceable, yet

[ancient sonnet]

Probably cause best pusher

[shadow bay]

weedy niche is good when u need it, shes the best op u can lean on

while saria and surtr so replacable nowadays

[hidden wolf]

Which banner has pity carry over

[opaque remnant]

saki mod2 would be very nice...

[shadow bay]

not to mention how atrocious surtr (and saria also ig) tags to snipe her

yeh saria do have guranteed tags afaik

[raven ermine]

Saria is garbo, surtr is very mid
Weedy is niche and needed for some content, also easier to guarantee than both of those

[lapis tide]

one of my biggest brainrot moves of all time was pulling kernel for saria, only for her to show up in selector a year and half later

[rocky pilot]

Waiting for another one

[winter crystal]

Saria S1 sakiko S3

[jaunty heron]

oh and i have to fight yi to fight wang right?

[rocky pilot]

Eventually
Eventually

[lapis tide]

yea after yi it opens floor 6

[jaunty heron]

ok thanks i thought that i went the wrong way

[winter crystal]

You don’t need to rob the shop tho if you aren’t confident with your roster

[olive mulch]

what are archetype without 6* currently?

[winter crystal]

Watch a YouTube guide

[keen hedge]

Strategist

[raven ermine]

primal guards, skyrangers

[mild yacht]

Skyranger, skypatrol

[proven kelp]

I mean i doubt that there are no other solution for those stages other than those 2 specifically, i really don't think that Vector garrison will be that hard
I mean even without Shu, i don't really see a usage for Saria when you can simply blast the enemies. Healing defender be damned

I just don't agree calling those 3 having "Niches" while Bag has "Nothing"
Bagpipe has the niche of convenience, being able to deploy your whole squad in the first few sec of the stage is very convenient
A lot of players are casuals, and as players get older they will soon feel the value of clearing the stage as fast as possible
I find Bagpipe to have more value long term for players who will play a long time, especially for the average player

As the players gets older, they will have better stats sticks than those 3 as they're simply kill and tanking
So far there isn't really another op who gives the same convenience as Bagpipe does, even SA2 is not really the same since he first need to be deployed to give the initial SP

Convenience is a very nasty thing as you get older. At least for me and some of my friends who played for years

Not that im advocating for Bagpipe select, just don't agree calling her useless