help

[brazen gulch]

off the top of my head i can give you only one example, an is5 stage, but generally speaking the occasion sometimes comes up. it's not like i'm saying either are a prio to build or anything

[hoary ruin]

How many times has this happened? If it's just once the other player probably just got disconnected.

[trim mantle]

Everytime i matched

[brazen gulch]

maybe it's because the stage has little ranged tiles, or maybe the specific spot is out of range, or maybe there's some aoe going on and most rangees would just die. yk

[hoary ruin]

Restart the app then imo and if it persists you can see if the folks in #tech-support have further ideas.

[trim mantle]

Thanks alot then

[raven ermine]

Why would mousse have any edge over range ?
Usually your melee ops are more likely to die than ranged ones, just deploy correctly
I don't know what stage you're talking about, because i never ran either and can clear is5 just fine
Maybe it's like one hidden tech i don't know about, but that wouldn't make them relevant

[undone portal]

if its for assassinating specific enemies in hard-to-reach spots, then that just sounds like utages usecase

[raven ermine]

And you can always draft amiya, she has 3 tickets, is cheap, and is useful in other forms too

[brazen gulch]

so guard amiya it is (will reply to the other message in a bit)

[raven ermine]

Well unless i'm really starved for ground units i don't use guardmiya either so idk why you need an art ground option so badly

[carmine trout]

should I build my lumen if these are my #healers

[raven ermine]

Nope

[odd heart]

No, too much of a resource dump and I say this as a Lumen user

[odd sky]

e1 purestream for base

[carmine trout]

i did sorry old screenshot

so who should like i use for healers

[hoary ruin]

Reed Alter and Silence should be more than enough to clear story. If you need stronger support than that borrow Haruka.

[odd sky]

silence

[severe crypt]

Silence and perfumer ig

[carmine trout]

is lumen that bad to go for a 5*healer instead? i understand perfumer tho

[severe crypt]

He’s basically a 4.5 star healer with 6 star costs

[carmine trout]

ow

[winter crystal]

Lumen bad yes

[odd sky]

too expensive, and silence has better healing

[carmine trout]

oki then

[hidden wolf]

Should i e2 her

[stray gust]

lumen has mediocre performance aside from the instant cure status niche despite requiring heavy investment

[raven ermine]

Not really

[stray gust]

in a certain way, whisperain might even be a better investment than lumen

[severe crypt]

And in that way, purestream is a better investment

[raven ermine]

Erm
Why not purestream atp

[odd heart]

This application has been seen on one hand from my experience. And tbh I built him cause “haha Ammo skill” obsession.

So a meme

[stray gust]

I only pick purestream in IS6 because of yanese and aside from that I don't use her

[severe crypt]

At least memes are funny, lumen is just boring 🚬

[raven ermine]

And you use whisperain ?

[odd heart]

Imagine if his S3 using ammo procced a ExuAlt talent on your ops

[stray gust]

IS3 drafting

[severe crypt]

That, would still not be enough to bother raising tbh

[raven ermine]

So niche af too, got it

[winter crystal]

You don’t use whisperain bc she’s a bum, I don’t use whisperains bc of the sound affects. We are not the same

[severe crypt]

I wish whisperain was good cuz she’s a beauty

[stray gust]

she is ermm.... decent, but super niche.

the only problem is the super niche part

[wraith shoal]

"decent" doing some heavy lifting

[rain forge]

Isn’t whisper good for base

[raven ermine]

Well she's part of PI, so you need to run full exodia for her, which is not really the norm in the user base
Outside of that she's garbage

[iron jacinth]

can you still get the originium slug emote set or is it gone

[brazen gulch]

i really want to emphasize that i have never argued that mousse or arene or an arts guard or anything really is needed anywhere. the original context that i saw was someone getting astesia, then someone saying that "she'll work as a replacement for a 6^ guard", and i replied with my own suggestion of mousse and arene since they fulfill the same role for meaningfully cheaper (in lmd, hope, dp, etc.)

while mousse doesn't have a meaningful advantage over a caster + defender or similar in the vast majority of cases, she is very much an alternative to them (assuming it's not a coughing baby vs nuclear bomb matchup like asking if Logos defender can be replaced with mousse healer - of course not). again, in the above-mentioned context, i wasn't saying that mousse is better, should be considered first, or is otherwise the prime solution for some common problem, i saw that a discussion about arts guards arised and suggested alternatives that i believe will do the same job of being a melee arts dealer equally well or better for cheaper, under the assumption/premise that you already for whichever reason decided that you need one

if you're curious about the specific stage i really like bringing arene for, it's https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Kaz_Falls, a map i personally call "good melee check" because of how hostile it has been in my experience to ranged operators. again, to emphasize, this is not to be taken as an argument for "here's why Arene is good 👍 and you should build him", it's just an example i have in my recent memory of where i like to use him and where he performed well for me. doesn't mean he's irreplaceable, doesn't mean this one specific approach to one specific stage of one specific gamemode magically promotes him to S tier - none of that

[raven ermine]

Holy, words

[winter crystal]

New copy pasta just dropped

[brazen gulch]

at least i hope i explained myself clearly

[raven ermine]

I had a feeling you meant kaz falls
You know there are some really easy solves

[polar hollow]

sorry thats like words and I don't read

[brazen gulch]

we're EN, nobody does 🫂

[urban sleet]

Thanks for the words, my dog was hungry

[winter crystal]

You could post your darkest secrets, make it long enough and no one will ever know

[brazen gulch]

i sure had a feeling but hey, like i said in the message it's just the way i clear it. works for me /shrug

[iron jacinth]

wait so sorry to interupt but can you still get the slug emote set in icebreaker games or is it gone 😭

[raven ermine]

Mousse is just bad tho
Her only redeeming factor is atk debuff and that's stretching it
Realistically there's no reason to use her
Because first you don't need melee arts
Second, in IS5 specifically, utage is already drafted

[severe crypt]

I look away to model a single thing and I miss a whole episode

[wraith shoal]

gone,reduced to atoms

[urban sleet]

Nothing compared to the marriage we had in here once dw

[winter crystal]

Get reading 🥀

[rain forge]

what

when the fuck did that happen

[limpid yarrow]

if you ever really need an arts guard amiya is 1 hope in class and does literally everything(including arts guard)

[urban sleet]

Thats a story for another day I dont want to summon blue names

[echo venture]

[severe crypt]

Speak of the devil

[rain forge]

hi hermy

[humble nova]

wait is lemuen the only one who is an additional pick from the rest in the 2nd selector for celebration? or is there more?

[echo venture]

what selector

[humble nova]

the standard selector paid pack

[winter crystal]

Are you talking about the 30 dollar selector ticket?

[urban sleet]

She isnt pick-able from sashter event's selector

[limpid yarrow]

isnt that only up to m3

[severe crypt]

Yeah it should only be up to mon3tr

[humble nova]

I know that I mean for the second one this year

[wraith shoal]

isnt 2nd one kernel?

[tiny chasm]

how much is the selector pack?

[humble nova]

because we are getting two celebration events in this year.

@wraith shoal no, well yes but not what im talking about

[winter crystal]

Nah the next time it comes around after this limited event I think he means

[wraith shoal]

30 bucks

[severe crypt]

That would likely be up to mantra?

[odd heart]

How does ExuAlt’s S2 Atk Interval Debuff interact if the target op happens to have a skill that lowers their Atk Interval? Would it cancel out?

[humble nova]

Okay lemme clarify

1st selector is up to mon3tr in sash2

2nd selector is up to lemuen at least from my knowledge is that true or is there more?

[severe crypt]

It should be far more than Lemu, should be up to mantra

[wraith shoal]

wouldnt it be till mantra?

[humble nova]

oh shit so we can get like haruka and tragodia from it..

[limpid yarrow]

aspd and interval are different stats but it it would cancel

[severe crypt]

And leizialt

[winter crystal]

Well you select one but it would be trag

[humble nova]

me already have tragodia, now ima ask what to get.. cuz like wow

[wraith shoal]

haruka kinda busted though

[winter crystal]

Still using monster 9/10 times

[severe crypt]

She’d only be a good pick if you already have tons of dps, as in the top meta dps ops

[urban sleet]

Trag rerun is down tbe line surely you can get him from that banner instead of the selector

[winter crystal]

This is like a discussion 3-4 months out?

[young glacier]

Why fail now when you can fail later and then cope entire year for 180 gold cert deal

[wraith shoal]

I'm thinking of picking ines or mlynar with it,is it a wise choice?

[severe crypt]

Well… yeah actually

[limpid yarrow]

quite wise tbh

[urban sleet]

This entire discussion is 6+ months ahead of time

[winter crystal]

Ask us this questions 4 months from now after you get a lot more ops lmao

[undone portal]

ines is kinda an evergreen selector choice tbh, quite wise

[obtuse obsidian]

Huh? Cant you just get him in sa2 free pulls like a skilled player?

[winter crystal]

Shrimply 💳

[urban sleet]

you have a point

[wraith shoal]

yeah,still trying to decide who to get first,her or mlynar

[modern ivy]

Wait we get haruka 2nd selector? omg
Okay so first selector im planning to either get
Ines, Ray, Logos, reedalter. mylnar
and second: Haruka, mon3tr (and everything above).
Note I only have ptilo&silence and I have good dps (wis+exu2+lemon)

What would I get

[wraith shoal]

monster is available in 1st too.Also,you only pick one

[turbid ocean]

You can only buy 1 standard selector

[modern ivy]

oh yeah and im pulling on the vector banner

[winter crystal]

You’re not selecting Ray or logos bc Ray dated/in cert shop and logos no need bc of pram2

[turbid ocean]

And second selector will be fairly late in the year

Would advise against pulling like that

[obtuse obsidian]

Ray and reed are horrible selector choices tbh

And this is from someone with m15 reed

[turbid ocean]

Mlynar is a very solid pick up though

[modern ivy]

yeah I know I can only pick one. Im speaking futuristically for both selectors in separate events

[winter crystal]

She waifu tho no resources wasted 🫂 (reedalt)

[modern ivy]

so my best option for 1st selector is either ines or mylnar.
(I lack dp meta unit / vanguard)
and second maybe haruka or mon3tr

[turbid ocean]

Things shift around but I think there is a good chance Haruka will stay relevant
But using selector on healer feels suspicious to me

Mlynar is way better because SilverAsh2 coming soon

[wraith shoal]

he buffs him?how?

[limpid yarrow]

haruka will always be relevant for story content

[turbid ocean]

More so that Ines is as necessary
They overlap a decent bit

[limpid yarrow]

so if you never plan on playing hard content haruka is the greatest thing ever

[modern ivy]

in that case, mylnar. But is the vector banner before wang/2nd celebration event?

[turbid ocean]

story content is never the basis to judge operator strenght

you can literally pull on anything and be fine about story

[urban sleet]

So haruka isnt used in high diff IS at all

[modern ivy]

I just want the general unit where I can use em for general and high-end content comfortably

[turbid ocean]

Haruka isn't particularly necessary on hard content
She was used on CCB4 sure

[limpid yarrow]

it's like a mayyyybe in IS6 and a no for the other ones

[rain forge]

saying an operator does well in story is like saying you can punch a baby easily

[obtuse obsidian]

Shit that murder high end end up murdering story anyway

[turbid ocean]

Yes then Mlynar for first selector and second selector will depend on what comes out and what you pull up until that point

[worthy gyro]

i'd imagine that her 30% sanctuary would be a blessing for surviving high ascension ATK boosts

[undone portal]

as usual for selectors, consider doing your pulls first then deciding

[limpid yarrow]

ya but haruka is a comfy afk operator
in the ideal situation she's like 2.7 ejyaberries + 1.7 caster eyjas for afk

[winter crystal]

Monster over Haruka in hard IS content anyday

[turbid ocean]

Alot of high end content will blow you to bits, 30% sanctuary is nothing

[obtuse obsidian]

Haruka is a blessing in is cause now we have 2 tickets to have a medic from

[limpid yarrow]

once pram2 comes out you just put haruka + pram2, activate skills, and then leave your phone

[worthy gyro]

damn

[turbid ocean]

Haruka is good because usually very good

[undone portal]

haruka is a good is draft, but you have to weigh drafting her against drafting tragodia/angelina/raidian
gnosis too depending on what youre doing

[turbid ocean]

But shes not a god send

[limpid yarrow]

very comfy
never worry about event stages ever again

[wraith shoal]

I find haruka more comfortable to use tbh,though only IS I've played a lot is 6

[urban sleet]

[turbid ocean]

Haruka is comfortable
But performance wise its always Mon3tr

[winter crystal]

Well specifically you’re using S3 on monster for high diff IS bosses so it’s a little different then Haruka

[urban sleet]

I knew mon3 is used but didnt know haruka is not used as much

[turbid ocean]

Really depends on the level of play you care about

[modern ivy]

thank you!

[winter crystal]

How many medics you planning to draft 😭

[wraith shoal]

s3 over s2 is news to me damn

[limpid yarrow]

lowk i feel like ines is more evergreen choice
unc still got it but even unc is slowly starting to lose it after all the years

[urban sleet]

Yes

[turbid ocean]

depends on the IS and scenario

ngl you don't draft 6* healers usually

Mon3tr only drafted for IS5, and sometimes IS6

[winter crystal]

True damage + sustained + attack speed goes crazy

[humble nova]

@modern ivy why do u wanna pull on the vector banner? and wdym "vector" banner. Isnt vector that high end content event mode

[obtuse obsidian]

Monster seem solid into is2 big sadge too but nobody like facing that mf anyway

[winter crystal]

[undone portal]

hung

[turbid ocean]

They probably mean a JO or Orienteering thats associated with an upcoming event

[modern ivy]

does he know?

[turbid ocean]

Please don't upload unnecessarily here

[modern ivy]

but uh basically, haruka, mon3tr, logos, I want all of em @humble nova and its like a banner that comes with vector I think

[brazen gulch]

fun prohibited

[limpid yarrow]

might be another 6 pick 3 banner i think

[humble nova]

ohh thats good man

[limpid yarrow]

global tends to switch the lineup around tho

[humble nova]

very slightly it seems, I doubt they'll remove haruka tho from it

[undone portal]

vb2 banner had mlynar/trag on it yea?

[turbid ocean]

Its subject to change, and the banner is Orienteering

[obtuse obsidian]

Are those pick 3 of 6 the same between cn and en?

[turbid ocean]

No, theres almost always something that changes

[limpid yarrow]

yea i think every time we switch out like 1-2

[humble nova]

except that one mon3tr, logos, ray banner or well they picked out one unit iirc

[rain forge]

There’s a chance that haruka mon3 logos get replaced with hoolheyak ebenholz and vivianna or some other useless operator

[limpid yarrow]

this is a strong lineup but they could always switch stuff out

[humble nova]

Haruka, I doubt because she's recent.. theres just no way 😬

[urban sleet]

Hool ❌ Lee ✅

[limpid yarrow]

this might be the greatest lineup so far but also they could still switch things up

[obtuse obsidian]

They gonna keep the stainless

[humble nova]

when even is this vector? like not date-wise but event order

[turbid ocean]

Don't speculate, see channel rules

[worthy gyro]

stainless thinks he's him...

[limpid yarrow]

who invited bro 😭

[wraith shoal]

after chen3 banner

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah how does irene fare now that she got her IS mod

[humble nova]

oh thats a lot of time, unless the 2nd celebration selector is before the vector banner for @modern ivy to pull

[limpid yarrow]

its alright
haven't seen too much experimentation but it seems pretty cool
nothing gamebreaking like archetto(yet)

[turbid ocean]

[worthy gyro]

tbh i'd pull for irene, even if she's not very strong anymore
she's just neat

[woeful burrow]

Until what date will this regime last?

[turbid ocean]

Cheeto and gamebreaking do not go in the same sentence

[wraith shoal]

lasts one week

[obtuse obsidian]

You guys should use mizuki as the example of broke is module

[modern ivy]

should I s3m3 Ulpi or s2m3?

[turbid ocean]

S3

[woeful burrow]

one week or until the end of the week?

[wraith shoal]

one week from release

[turbid ocean]

It should say on the April Fools Menu

[woeful burrow]

ok TY!)

[winter crystal]

I’m actually going to build hool bc of that triple damage gimmick that you said earlier, going to try it out for the memes lmao

[modern ivy]

best way to farm this? or still 1-7? (i feel like some of the material farm stages in bot spam are outdated)

[turbid ocean]

Hool is unironically used on IS6 sometimes

[woeful burrow]

I didn't see this information...

[winter crystal]

Yeah ending 4 will be funny

[turbid ocean]

It for ending 5, atleast what i saw

[stray gust]

is this like silence or totter?

[obtuse obsidian]

Forever will be 1 7

[modern ivy]

okay, also is silence worth e2'ing if I only have her and ptilo

[limpid yarrow]

hg will never forgive themselves for making 1-7 6 sanity instead of 9

[winter crystal]

And for the fat boss in ending 4 pretty sure

[turbid ocean]

Do you have all your main dpses and base ops raised?

[modern ivy]

except s3m3 sash, other than that im good.

[limpid yarrow]

anything that spans more than a tile is fair game

[turbid ocean]

Main dps masteries, modules, base ops first
then you can consider doing E2 healers / vanguards

[limpid yarrow]

anything that's 1 tile and can be levitated also explodes
even if it's 1 tile and can't be levitated there's still a good chance it explodes because ho ol the greatest caster to ever do it

[modern ivy]

i'll take that as a yes, although sash2 banner incoming, so I might regret it, but I only have ptilo raised soo

[turbid ocean]

Whether Ptilo or Silence is better E2 is kind of situational

[light sparrow]

just E1'd raidian and I am in chapter 4
should I upgrade her more and if so which level should I upgrade her too?

[turbid ocean]

Hard to say whether you want to E2 both

[turbid ocean]

I mean you have to play IS6 to level her
it might be hard as newbie but you can try since its free

[modern ivy]

yeah thats why i wanted to raise silence, incase I want her auto heals for single-target healing or global healing drones. or ptilo for aoe healing + range / burst

I already have e2 ptilo lvl.60 mod1

[halcyon remnant]

Best module for fiametta?

[light sparrow]

yeah but should I just leave raidian at E1, lvl 1 and then continue the story?

[turbid ocean]

Modx

[turbid ocean]

Uh I would get skill levels

But i forgot the exact requirements for SL7

[light sparrow]

alright thx

[turbid ocean]

would hold on Silence unless you have a lot of resources

[limpid yarrow]

you should level radian as much as possible imo it costs you literally nothing and she can really carry through story

most underlevelled low star operators will be worth less than a radian fish

[wraith shoal]

e1 lvl80 is easy for raidian

[light sparrow]

aight thx

[modern ivy]

I just need rocks to e2 her, and idk if I should lvl her or not..? or module? but I have 300k LMD left.
Should I still raise her or save incase I get something in sash2?

[wraith shoal]

e2 might be difficult if you dont have enough good ops to clear IS6

[turbid ocean]

did you already e1 max her

[modern ivy]

I-
yes..

[winter crystal]

The healers don’t need E2 to function

[turbid ocean]

Don't do that to any operator moving forward

Huge cash sink

You E1 max when you're confident you will go to E2 immediately

[modern ivy]

yes master

[stray gust]

the problem of 'just need rocc' is that a lot of ops need rocc, and they consume a lot of rocc

[modern ivy]

I figured the aspd talent and larger stat bonus would be nice.

[winter crystal]

Also Sashalt and pram2 are here soon, need to save lmd and exp and mats for those

[turbid ocean]

its nice to have

but doesn't make or break a lot

[limpid yarrow]

there's a reason 1-7 is so important 😭

[turbid ocean]

healing check is relatively low in general

[modern ivy]

okay!

[winter crystal]

That alone isn’t enough to justify going broke to E2

[modern ivy]

Anyways in here, suzuran, dorothy, sutr. Do any of em have a place in this squad?

[winter crystal]

Lin 🥀

[turbid ocean]

Lin for Dorothy
You don't need Silence on this team

Saria Ptilo is good enough

[young glacier]

It is not boring to Have Exu2 Tragodia and Wisadel each map?

[modern ivy]

I liked her l2d skin, but to my surprise she's pretty good cause of her shield mechanic. I abused it in ch16

[turbid ocean]

S1M1 and ModY1 Saria is enough

[modern ivy]

if wisadel is in there, it can be.. but yeha lol

[winter crystal]

Technically for Gen content there’s no need to change anything you’ll clear like 99% of it if not all but Lin isn’t good

[modern ivy]

I was about to ask if I should m3 her s1 lol

also dorothy build? idk how I feel about switching her for lin

[limpid yarrow]

just blasting through normal content for rewards so i can get to IS faster 🔥

[turbid ocean]

If not built

Just keep Lin

[modern ivy]

soemone told me I cant clear ch16 H stages 😢

[turbid ocean]

You should be able to

[limpid yarrow]

p sure you have the ops to clear h16-4

[winter crystal]

??

[modern ivy]

I have her modx1 s2m3 atm (dorothy)

well damn I was gaslighted 💔

[limpid yarrow]

if not you could also probably blast through it with brute force anyway(thats how it went for me at least)

[winter crystal]

Don’t listen to people try it yourself first 🫂

[limpid yarrow]

no thinking just 2026 operator power

[inland shell]

hi guys new to the game is there a beginner guide or progression guide?

[modern ivy]

so I guess I can ignore silence lol welp 200k lmd just gone due to poor decisions 🤣

[limpid yarrow]

its ok this is long term investment for your IS5 arc later

[young glacier]

Only 200k? In grand scheme of bench reinforcing it is nothing

[modern ivy]

but yeah what is the dorothy build? I thought it was s3 right? or is s2 better?

[turbid ocean]

oh already built Dorothy, then sure would replace

Lin is niche can be good

Else shes whatever

[winter crystal]

Well you have the important stuff like breakpoint on trag I wouldn’t stress

[modern ivy]

oki doki

[light sparrow]

how do you do the ulpianus gladiia synergy?

[waxen dove]

most people have like 200m in straight benchs

[hoary ruin]

You might need to borrow a specific unit, but you should be fine with that squad. IF you have to borrow at all tbh.

Between Leizi2, Wiz, Exu2 and Trag, you have enough stall and DPS to melt anything you want.

Hell, you probably have more DPS than me and I cleared H16-1 thru 3. I just haven't done 4 yet because it seems like too much work. >.>

[modern ivy]

just deploy em lol (if they have mods)

[turbid ocean]

You put down Gladiia with ModX and Ulpi sustains better
its kind of whatever

Just gives you room to play hands off

[winter crystal]

You deploy both

But really you need gladiia E2 and preferably with her regen mod lvl3 then just deploy both

[light sparrow]

oh thats what i was missing

[limpid yarrow]

you put one down
you put the other down

[modern ivy]

thank you, my confidence is boosted 🙏

[urban sleet]

Iirc you need silence/eyja2 in IS5 for the drone/global range for an ed right

Erm in that case are there any alternatives I should be raising/keeping an eye on if I have neither

[limpid yarrow]

m3 does everything there

[winter crystal]

You just being lazy

[modern ivy]

@turbid ocean wait u sure its mody1 saria and not modx1? for healing? or do I rlly want the reduced dmg trait?

[limpid yarrow]

but unfortunately those are the big ones
rose salt/ptil/quercus are also more niche options

[hoary ruin]

True. Lol.

[turbid ocean]

Because Saria is a very shitty tank as is

[limpid yarrow]

purestream too we love purestream

[turbid ocean]

Reducing damage is more effective than healing more by the same % given Sarias stat distribution
Given its not particularly fast healing

[modern ivy]

gotcha

[urban sleet]

Phew I am not cooked then

[winter crystal]

Which ending?

[young glacier]

Balancing guardian healing ability with downgraded def and HP

[urban sleet]

I forgot

[limpid yarrow]

is5 ed4 healing the quilon flames

[winter crystal]

Ahhh

[turbid ocean]

you don't need silence or eyja2

current ED4 meta is just Mon3tr

[limpid yarrow]

ya usually m3 does all the healing for you

[modern ivy]

I checked the wiki, and saria gets a third charge for her s1. is m3 good?

[autumn rivet]

you mean all is5 ending meta

[turbid ocean]

true

[limpid yarrow]

also true m3 might be the greatest to ever do it in is5

[turbid ocean]

i meant just for healing flowers but yeah

Mon3tr solves basically all of is5

[limpid yarrow]

but its an option to have for less hope

[cyan venture]

is the wisadel skin cn only? or is it coming in 6 months

[formal shadow]

Boat jump

[modern ivy]

Also I heard dorothy wants mod3, is that true? or is modx1 just fine?

[urban sleet]

so can I use purestream like pine and flower guy said if I lack those options

[severe crypt]

Pine and flower guy

[modern ivy]

the funny chibi one? thats next year on april fools

[limpid yarrow]

we will get it next april fools

[turbid ocean]

but you need to spend schizo amount of time on the game
and learn how to exploit boat jump

[young glacier]

From my knowledge people stop on m1 for SP reduction or something, I bet you have better stuff to upgrade over mastery of heal every few seconds skill

[cyan venture]

oh okay

[modern ivy]

ykw true

[limpid yarrow]

purestream good to have ye

[urban sleet]

thanks

[turbid ocean]

i told you S1M1 earlier

[modern ivy]

when should I s3m3 exu2? I dont think I have the ops worthy enough for her s3 just yet since I missed hoshi2 banner.

[turbid ocean]

IS5 is incredibly flexible what you can do
as long as you don't specifically chase 245 on 18

[modern ivy]

sorry to doubt you, I had to make sure if the extra charge was good or not

[urban sleet]

Modx1 if you must, modless also fine too unless I am forgetting some cruciak detail

[limpid yarrow]

its very flexible even if you are chasting 245 d18
so many different viable operators

[turbid ocean]

There is, but there is a big difficulty jump

[limpid yarrow]

so many different viable squads too
one of the better designed ones as far as variety goes

[urban sleet]

Erm that is my goal although this wouod be in low difficulty I want to prepare ops as soon as possible since I wish to climb higher

[limpid yarrow]

a little bit of something for everyone

[turbid ocean]

I guess difficulty is subjective

IS5 requires a lot of experience with pathing more than anything

[limpid yarrow]

no yeah it's definetly hard 😭 but being able to shake things up operator wise helps

[turbid ocean]

Getting consistent on D18 245 is the hardest hurdle by far,
regardless of squad or operator
but flingers is definitely way easier than the other strats

[glossy schooner]

That and if you want to do lamp Strats early on, Using supports(I don’t regret not using borrowing, but sometimes, Some times…)

[limpid yarrow]

oh ya find a good support operator to start with

ideally attach yourself to a whale with a p6m9 starter 😇

[winter crystal]

Just tell me if you do talons or lamp, I did lamp for 1,3,5 and I’m desperately trying to avoid looking up guides

[glossy schooner]

Yeah I’ve never used supports

[turbid ocean]

Thorns?

[urban sleet]

I was planning on going gvg since thats the comp I have the most ops for/can guarantee acquirement

[limpid yarrow]

you can skip the encounter entirely
you must wake up from the propaganda

[turbid ocean]

oh talons

[young glacier]

Probability is never zero that it is useful somewhere somehow, but do you want to chase around looking where s1m1 don't work and s1m3 just enough to work? If you use guides for hard stuff i doubt some guide will have Saria around instead Tragodia/Wisadel as most of them are every "So everyone can friend support 1 6* to copy"

[limpid yarrow]

its a false dichotomy what if we just dont go into the encounter 👻

[turbid ocean]

Fateless is viable but also incredibly hard to pull off

[modern ivy]

leizi2 s1m1
dorothy s3m2

Which should I focus? or save mats?
(I still have is6 for the mastery voucher too, which I may save for sash2 if I get any uprate)

[limpid yarrow]

but lamp is probably the more consistent one ya eaiser to learn too

[turbid ocean]

A lot of fateless players in Kasino2 playing D15

D15 is sunshine and rainbows though

[limpid yarrow]

s1m3 will probably do more because leizi2 s1 is quite good

[turbid ocean]

Leizi do S1 if you will actually use it

[modern ivy]

Alright 👍

[limpid yarrow]

i think they also had something like max 1 lamp per team tho so also that was a factor
not a problem for just playing by yourself

[turbid ocean]

Dorothy modx3 over other masteries first

[urban sleet]

She wants mod3?

[turbid ocean]

i know

[modern ivy]

me when no module blocks.

[turbid ocean]

but at the same time no one opted for doodle

[limpid yarrow]

play more is6 and get the module packet

[modern ivy]

wait why does dorothy want modx3

[young glacier]

SSS i have come to bargain

[turbid ocean]

one lamp, one talon, one fateless

[autumn rivet]

what x3 do ? more dmg ?

[turbid ocean]

Im not sure if im interpreting incorrectly but x3 deploys extra mine 50% of the time always?

I never use doro so maybe the wording is just shit

when deploying a Resonator, there is a 50% chance of deploying an additional Resonator within Attack Range

[urban sleet]

Iirc its a chance to deploy a mine to deal 50% more dmg, let me check

I see

[turbid ocean]

Thats literally a 50% damage boost if its how it reads

[modern ivy]

hm idk how I feel about chances because I like to auto deploy some of my stages.

[young glacier]

I dont recall which dorothy mod is which

[limpid yarrow]

auto deploy saves the rng seed im p sure

[turbid ocean]

that doesn't matter

auto deploy stages are usually piss easy

you use like 3 built ops and 9 trust farm

[winter crystal]

Thought so just wanted to make sure while I put more hours into it

Biggest problem is I think I’m just too greedy

[young glacier]

Then desyncs and crash off hill. I miss days of having to auto annihilation so just 15 minutes of everything going to hell when Chalter ammo talent, Goldenglow explosion, Ambriel stun, Kroos alter 2 stun, etc decide to do the funny

[autumn rivet]

so dorothy x3 is wang talent ?

[turbid ocean]

You mean Wang is better Dorothy ModX3

[limpid yarrow]

its like a quarter of wang talent 🥀

[modern ivy]

Honeslty ima just keep dorothy modx1 s2m3, I forgot wang is going to exist and I want to get him

is that alright?

[turbid ocean]

If you play properly and do base right you will prob build most of it

If you get Pram2, she easily slots in over Lin/Doro

[modern ivy]

awesome ok

[winter crystal]

Mb lmao

[turbid ocean]

245 D18 consistently or even first win is hard

any thing other than Flingers its advisable to look up guides...

well by look up guides go read central website

[humble nova]

do we know what the banner is for the celebration event after wang? I heard exu2 will be in it as an uprate/offrate

[turbid ocean]

optimal pathing / voucher choices or death

[turbid ocean]

you've been here long enough to know how limited banner off rates work
go read the pins

[winter crystal]

Ik I just like figuring out stuff my self, im currently deciding what timing would be best to grab the ending 4 relic and the combination of combat/encounters leading up to it

[turbid ocean]

yes that is incredibly important

[limpid yarrow]

floor 3 usually for lamp

[turbid ocean]

when you get petal, shop rob, faceoff

[limpid yarrow]

but ya isc guides super helpful resources
ask lots of questions in is-station or isc

[turbid ocean]

there is a guide in #is-station pins by Mei who has written detail about which floor is optimal for what

[winter crystal]

Yeah I know the basic steps just the details im working out

[turbid ocean]

actually the guide covers just pathing in general

not that im telling you to go read it

if you give in, thats there

[winter crystal]

Yeah going to take a look after this weekend if I haven’t figured it out myself by then

[turbid ocean]

pathing is the most essential part, more runs are decided by pathing than any other IS

stage/draft knowledge matters of course as always

[winter crystal]

Yeah but if I trial and error it out myself I tend to learn a lot more then just following a guide

[turbid ocean]

ye just reading the guide won't solve anything

it gives you an idea

[glossy schooner]

Yeah i didnt like IS for a WHILE, then a friend made a guide for me using ops I had and it helped a Lot!

[limpid yarrow]

just be mindful tbh "learning from mistakes" only happens if you're actively learning and not just doing the mistakes part

[winter crystal]

Ikik lmao

[turbid ocean]

yeah you really need basically a coach at some point

[glossy schooner]

Honestly, it did! It’s the reason I semi enjoy IS and at all got Raidian E2

[modern ivy]

wait! I forgot about ulpi s3! should I s3m3 ulpi or s1m3 leizi2? which should I prioritze first?

[turbid ocean]

Ulpi S3M3 is main skill

[glossy schooner]

Otherwise Fish lady was sitting at E1 80 forever

[turbid ocean]

I told you Leizi skills depends on usage
S2 for general

[modern ivy]

okay okay

[limpid yarrow]

you might like her s3 for the cocaine bear once you get there

[turbid ocean]

They're more than good enough for 16 stages

[limpid yarrow]

lovely how all of her skills are useable

[turbid ocean]

Trag Wis Exu etc

[modern ivy]

isnt the bear immune to fear or do u just mean dmg

[turbid ocean]

Its not fear, its tremble

[limpid yarrow]

tremble stops it from attacking

[glossy schooner]

Mainly cause I don’t use supports but that’s neither here nor there

[modern ivy]

oh, I must've read it wrong

[limpid yarrow]

what once was degenbrecher's signature status 😔

[turbid ocean]

Frighten / Tremble / Disarm

alot of ways people call it

Yes its immune to fear though

[modern ivy]

if I get the mastery voucher, should I use it pramalter or sash2?

[faint merlin]

Guys i got the thorns delta module. Did i fuck up

[winter crystal]

You did bc you got a thorns mod in general (you’re fine)

[limpid yarrow]

damn no sugarcoating at all

[turbid ocean]

think Sash2 S2 is marginally more expensive than Pram2 S2

[modern ivy]

mk

[proven kelp]

Kinda pointless getting X if you're just gonna do lvl1
Literally worthless lmao, all of X Value is at lvl3 with the additional Trap chance

If you're gonna have to stop at lvl1, just do Module Y instead since it already has most of it's value at lvl1
And you want Y regardless anyway, it's the better mod
The Crit allows her to reach higher dmg ceiling and X's extra trap is whatever when it's only within attack range, it's very limiting and not really that good

[hoary ruin]

mod 1 doesn't cost that much at least. Just don't put anything else into it.

[turbid ocean]

Its fine just dont upgrade Thorns mod more

[faint merlin]

I thought it would do elemental dmg but what is burst affect of nerve imp

[turbid ocean]

or upgrade him at all

[modern ivy]

the thing is I already have her modx1, I'd have mixed feelings having to spend more modules right now for her... unless getting her mody1 is a must. Because I feel reluctant till I get wang and considering that I want to build ops from sash2 banner (if I get any)

[turbid ocean]

thorns nerve imp is a scam

[faint merlin]

Craaazy thats depressing

[young glacier]

Thorns 4th mod for corrosion when

[turbid ocean]

i mean its fine you will replace her entirely most likely with Pram2

its kind of whatever dont put more resources for now if you don't have

[modern ivy]

oh yeah yeah

[median fable]

deltaest mod, deals all 4 elem dmg and all stack with each other (he deals tickle dmg and won't proc any of them)

[stoic quartz]

can i have some guidance here

[humble nova]

if a skills duration is 8 seconds, does the x2 speed feature make it 4 seconds?

[hoary ruin]

The golems will win. I had that one and the casters didn't have the DPS to deal with them.

[proven kelp]

I mean if you use Dorothy alot, mod1 is still incredibly cheap

Unless Dorothy is the weakest link in the team, she's not really going to die when Pram2 banner is out since your lower rarity will be kicked first
And even when Wang is released since unlike Summoners, Traps doesn't degrade the team by eating team slots so there's no problem using both, and he's like 4 months away

And why did you even get X in the first place?

[limpid yarrow]

yes

[turbid ocean]

If you want help with alot of these please keep it in #strategy
More suited for extended help

[loud remnant]

can i reset this tag to get another senior operator with other tags or if I reset I lose the senior tag? this is from the event

[limpid yarrow]

im pretty sure you'll lose it

[turbid ocean]

do not refresh

[hoary ruin]

Resetting will eat the Senior tag.

[loud remnant]

[winter crystal]

Why do people think this? 😭

[loud remnant]

thank you

[median fable]

even if it worked it will end up rerolling tags only to get the same trash 🥹

[hoary ruin]

Just hope that they might be able to get better tags somehow. I feel that. Mine yesterday were garbo and turned into reed dupe ><

[winter crystal]

Check pins to see which tag you want to select

[median fable]

the problem is that from SO there are like at most 5/6 ops worth to get for the average joe and I'm pushing it

on a pool of like 52 iirc

[proven kelp]

Just high roll debuff tag smh

[median fable]

reroll debuff --> you get Sesa 🥹

[valid violet]

this stacks on top of other tp efficiency boosts, right?

[median fable]

is this Umiri? iirc it stacks

[valid violet]

ya it is, ty

[median fable]

same way Sakiko stacks with other factory cc worker

[abstract mauve]

who's better between hoshiguma the breacher and lemuen?

[median fable]

you're comparing oranges and apples

[abstract mauve]

who's used more in high end?

[hoary ruin]

imo? Run both. Both are great.

[median fable]

both

[woeful burrow]

Are there any additional rewards for completing the remaining levels?

[limpid yarrow]

breacher is used more in high end but both are good

[median fable]

it's really hard to answer since both are great at what they do and it's not like you're comparing someone good with someone obv bad

[lyric lagoon]

(irl) sanity loss

[winter crystal]

Bragging rights

[lyric lagoon]

ak-7 lowkey pisses me off

[woeful burrow]

?

[woeful burrow]

What do you mean? Brag about what?

[hoary ruin]

It's a figure of speech.

[winter crystal]

Man no one gets my jokes

[unkempt pollen]

that you completed them

[limpid yarrow]

its the nicer way to say "nothing"

[severe crypt]

No no, the braggers deserve rights and we must fight for them

[woeful burrow]

Are there any rewards (achievements?) for completing the game that will be displayed somewhere?

[limpid yarrow]

no

[unkempt pollen]

no, otherwise he would’ve said that you’d get rewards (achievements) for completing the game that will be displayed somewhere

[hidden nacelle]

take a screenshot

[woeful burrow]

ok ty!

[hoary ruin]

It's purely for personal satisfaction. You got all the rewards from that mode. If you don't like the minigame you can dip with no drawbacks.

[woeful burrow]

Then I don't understand what exactly I can/should brag about if nothing will be given out and this is a temporary mode in a single-player game

[unkempt pollen]

.

[winter crystal]

[unkempt pollen]

you’re overthinking it lol dw

[winter crystal]

I shouldn’t have said anything mb

[woeful burrow]

ok TY!
I will gladly never go into this horrible thing again.

[lyric lagoon]

if you want some real (irl) sanity loss, get max points in terra investment masterclass

[hoary ruin]

That one's less painful than U Official's minigame ><

[boreal steeple]

Ak-s-2 is harder ngl, beaten ak-7 from second try bcz i met that jetpacker first time

[signal dragon]

Kevin?

[boreal steeple]

Her event is easy as long you choose 2 doubles increase/decrease and take no superchat

[hoary ruin]

It just bugs me because if you want all her pots you have to sit through the same photo stage and the same livestream multiple times.

[wheat sand]

Quick questions is ho'olheyak and narantuya good operators ( I don't have many 6 stars)

[boreal steeple]

Only naran is pretty good on low defense enemies. Hool is ass (until dlc2 is6 with her IS module)

[raw wigeon]

narantuya good

[signal dragon]

save for pram and sa banner

[wheat sand]

I am actually saving for wang

[hoary ruin]

If you haven't pulled on the banner yet, don't.

[signal dragon]

Wang is 4 months away you have plenty of time

[wheat sand]

Already pulled

[hoary ruin]

RIP. JO banner claims another.

[signal dragon]

hool is awful
pretend she doesn't exist

[wheat sand]

What do you mean RIP? Are they that awful?

[lyric lagoon]

less so of that, more so just wasting funds when a limited banner is close enough to breath down your neck

[hoary ruin]

Hool is terrible yeah, Nara's one of the better snipers.

[wheat sand]

Well at least I pulled someone good

BTW what are the chances of me pulling SA with only like 30k?

[hoary ruin]

I wouldn't skip SA2's banner but if I was going to I would have skipped this JO and waited for the orienteering after SA2 banner instead.

[wheat sand]

[lyric lagoon]

29.6% for a specific featured rate-up

[signal dragon]

you'll get like 40 more pulls from SA event

[wheat sand]

I like my chances just hoping I don't get unlucky

[hoary ruin]

It should be close to enough to get one or two 6* ops (RNG permitting), so not great but not terrible.

[lyric lagoon]

those are considerably low chances

[hoary ruin]

RNG gonna RNG, sometimes it takes one 10 to get the rateup, other times it takes 60+.

[wheat sand]

OK another quick question should I use 180 yellow certificate for Jessica or save 258 for wang

[lyric lagoon]

save

[hoary ruin]

Unless she's your Waifu, save your certs. Jessicat isn't meta.

How many pulls did they give us for Hoshi2's event?

[limpid yarrow]

it’s 24 for limited banners o think

10 pull + 1 free pull every day for 14 days

[signal dragon]

you get 10+ pulls from lottery too

[hoary ruin]

mmmm, so more like 35 then. I forgot about those. Seemed like SA2 was giving way more than Hoshi2 did but that's not correct.

[humble nova]

258, jessica alter is meh

[grand path]

so how do i get the top op tag from the new event?

[raw wigeon]

wait

[hoary ruin]

You can't. Yet.

[glad wing]

which haruka skill needs to be prioritized for m3?

[winter crystal]

And daily oru lottery (🐌)

[humble nova]

s2

[mortal perch]

Is the headhunting permits on stage 2 worth going for if ive already done this?

[echo venture]

yes

[raw wigeon]

Yes

What are you saving for otherwise

[humble nova]

how much of a priority is s3m3 ulpi? or just high as u can?

[hoary ruin]

You have MORE than enough green certs. Finish off page one there and grab the permits and recruit things off page 2.

[stray gust]

your monthly objective is to clear tier 1 shop to reach tier 2 shop and grab the 2 hh permits; the 30 recruitment permits is optional.

[mortal perch]

idk im just stingy with my green certs, i tell myself im saving for when i need materials, but it never happens

[hoary ruin]

You can skip the recruits if you want, but you will get a few gold certs off them. Otherwise feel free to spend your green certs when you need blue mats for someone.

Using green certs to buy mats is WAY better than trying to farm stuff other than rocks in story.

[echo venture]

pulls are way more important than mats

not the green t3 phase tho

[hoary ruin]

How many green certs does it even take to clear page 2?

[stray gust]

using green cert to buy mats should have lower priority than getting 2 more pulls monthly, considering f2p/monthly card player have limited option of gaining pulls.

[wraith shoal]

a lot

[mortal perch]

iirc its like 10k+

[hoary ruin]

Yeah....that's what I thought.

[stray gust]

t3 is not worthy to begin with when you considered buying trash item in t2 shop

[hoary ruin]

ewwww....

[raven ermine]

P3 is whale territory
I remember back in the day calcs were made to determine what was the cutoff for it to be worth reaching, and it was 60k ish certs iirc

[winter crystal]

#salt-mines message

[uncut fox]

Is Ascalon going to turn up in shop any time soon?

[winter crystal]

Not for a while but within this year

[hoary ruin]

Wow lol

[winter crystal]

Still not 60k green certs

Smol whale

[raven ermine]

The usual whale humble bragging

[winter crystal]

How else are you suppose to feel good about dropping 10k

[sick holly]

what zuo le module is better?

[raven ermine]

modx3

[waxen dove]

Is chongyye broken

He’s kinda fun to play
Very fun

[severe crypt]

N-no? Like how do you mean

[waxen dove]

Is he broken for afk teams or nah

[raven ermine]

Afk when you need to babysit him 5 times before he even is afk

[severe crypt]

The only op that could deserve the title of broken is Wis, if he ain’t Wis, he ain’t broken

[waxen dove]

It’s OK

[waxen dove]

Is he good

[raven ermine]

Chongyue isn't bad
He's not broken

[severe crypt]

Also even assuming not afk, he’s good at most, nothing crazy

[signal dragon]

he's pretty mid overall

[severe crypt]

And there are many other ops I’d much rather use

[raven ermine]

The only times i'm really using him is when i bring 4 suis

[severe crypt]

Even then 4 sui in most content is

[subtle dawn]

does gravel have a good base skill?

[signal dragon]

yes

[raven ermine]

I need more cycle for burn slop

[signal dragon]

#bot-spam /baseskillls for cheap slaves

[severe crypt]

4 sui into burn slop is truly the sloppiest of slop 🥹

[subtle dawn]

ty

[ancient lotus]

its peak ak gaming

[winter crystal]

The rat is eternal

[waxen dove]

Helpgpt
Read my name and tell me if i should go 300 for wang for yu spark
Is it genuinely that big of a game changer for lappalt

[raven ermine]

See, cube gets it 🥹

[signal dragon]

I use 4 Sui in co-op cause why not

[severe crypt]

I honestly forget 4 sui is a thing 🚬

[humble nova]

is glaucus good?

[winter crystal]

Wrong guy

[signal dragon]

no

[ancient lotus]

its a pretty big improvement if you must run lappalt, big true damage + res reduction can really buff her already good total damage.

then again, its a spark, do it at your own risk

[glad wing]

hello! what's the materials for Haruka s2m2 and s2m3?

I can't seem to navigate to krooster, its giving me a hard time

[severe crypt]

Try the wiki gg

[signal dragon]

check wiki.gg

[humble nova]

just search up wiki terra

[raw wigeon]

broken for 2023 afk teams

[ornate dust]

Newish account. Should I go for Ifrit or just raw tag? Don't have any 6* vanguards but I plan to get SA2

[waxen dove]

yeah i js care about “how much better” lappland gets

[subtle dawn]

do i need to e1 her to unlock it or nah? it doesnt say in botspam

[raven ermine]

Go for ifrit ya

[uncut fox]

What actually counts as good these days anyway? Is Blue Poison still considered good?

[winter crystal]

You don’t care about meta so go for it just be prepared to 💳

[severe crypt]

Was blue poison good back then 🥹

[raven ermine]

Not now, not before

[waxen dove]

if it’s her i will highkey if i need to

[winter crystal]

When….was she considered good

[severe crypt]

2017

[waxen dove]

meanwhile game released in 2019:

[uncut fox]

She was definitely good about launch time

[signal dragon]

you do

[winter crystal]

That’s the joke

[subtle dawn]

ok ty

[ancient lotus]

if we're assuming a decent amount of res on the enemy it can easily make her more than 50% better

[waxen dove]

im a boomer

[waxen dove]

yeah think it’s going power level 300 this time

[ancient lotus]

the higher the res the better yu is for lapp

[severe crypt]

You wouldn’t understand a good joke even if it ran you over

[ancient lotus]

iirc its a 50% improvement at >40 res, percentage gets higher as res goes higher

[winter crystal]

Omfg it’s rbp I just realized

[raven ermine]

Damn you even have lappalt slop math ready to go

[ancient lotus]

but technically the ele proc damage belongs to yu so its hard to credit all of that to lappy

[waxen dove]

also bro when the fuck will sa2 event come its like i’ve been waiting for 5 years

[signal dragon]

wait harder

[waxen dove]

i m not crediting it to her i just need to make her more useful

[raven ermine]

Blaze2 is the real core of burn slop
Well you need yu, but eh

[waxen dove]

Fuck blaze2 all my homies hate balze2

[ancient lotus]

then yeah yu is probably gonna be as good as it gets

[winter crystal]

You should spark Yu and don’t redeem wang bc lap is all you need

[waxen dove]

Yeah im not redacted word

[uncut fox]

I just hate on principle the fact that they turned a chick with a burning chainsaw into a caster, it's just feels wrong...

Looks at Exu on how to do it right... Angel with a gun to Angel with a even bigger gun. That is the correct way.

[lament loom]

Welp we have Thorns and Thorns Alter

[winter crystal]

They kept his “mid” intact

[lament loom]

Guard into Alchemist

[severe crypt]

Are you looking for logic in a game where fire minions are better than a judge who’s better than a full fledged ex reunion general

[winter crystal]

Or where sheep have a magic wand

[lament loom]

Mmmm, me when swarm of dogs beat Jesselton

[rocky pilot]

Unfortunately logic already doesn't exist for me long ago

Hellagur I thought you are something why are you like this

[severe crypt]

You clearly haven’t played bo1

[lament loom]

What does bo1 stand for

[winter crystal]

Simply walk in a circle the dogs don’t hit you 🥀

[humble nova]

mod triangle or mody logos I forgot

[abstract mauve]

triangle
is called delta

[winter crystal]

Delta

[solar knot]

Any medic other than warfarin have target max hp scaling heals ?

[abstract mauve]

hypothetically speaking, how much dps would pallas have to have to compete with ulpianus

[winter crystal]

Why are you using warf for heals

[hidden nacelle]

idk search up what dps ulpi has and tyry to match it

[solar knot]

Why are you answering my question with question

[severe crypt]

Why are you answering his question with another question

[hidden nacelle]

pretty sure its just warf btw

[raven ermine]

And it still wouldn't compete because ulpi is tanky af and has stun/iframes/repositioning

[winter crystal]

Medic Miya

[severe crypt]

That’s technically regen, no

[winter crystal]

It’s “healing”

[solar knot]

Ok ty

[sick holly]

https://www.krooster.com/u/srsurchin who should i level for base?

[unborn kayak]

Where in the boat race do I find this guy?

[rustic pecan]

Which tag combo is the best?

[winter crystal]

Pins

[odd sky]

shamare gamble?

[rustic pecan]

shoot yeah lol

on the other note, how do I eliminate patriot? His armor is so strong, he instakills (two shots for hoshi2) my operators and just is a menace overall

[wind storm]

Bring a hospital with cuora s2

[native cargo]

wht does it mean "via combat"

like only candleguest in pathfinder?

[rustic pecan]

elaborate more please?

[quick jolt]

theres an option in pathfinder where you can take a battle and operators that survive lightning strikes become candleguests. theres also a tongbao that does this. both work

[native cargo]

so it doesnt work for free candleguest in shop or wonderland candleguest?

[quick jolt]

no, those arent combats

[native cargo]

alr thnks

[quick jolt]

oh maybe you're confused. the buff applies to all candleguests regardless of how they become candleguests. having candleguests promoted via combat just increases the duration of the buff

[native cargo]

no im just refering to the duration stack

[odd sky]

patriot ch7? use the mines

[errant sparrow]

Silverash banner on the 8th I heard?

[random mountain]

No

[waxen dove]

Maybe

[fathom hawk]

tragodia s2 stall

[random mountain]

Its jp stream, not the event

[errant sparrow]

When’s the banner then?

[random mountain]

Thats the stream purpose

[spice gust]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/my_funnyvalentine

shamare e2? or should i focus on else?

[wraith shoal]

get haruka to lvl60 and get mod2

[native cargo]

whts best skill of degen

[coarse notch]

s3

[abstract mauve]

s3

[raven ermine]

Well don't go for e2 base slaves without even finishing your 4*
Also finish raising your 6* before thinking of e2ing for base
Mod1 s2m3 for haruka, mod3 s3m3 for necrass, s3m3 for hoshi, and thorns too

Thorns is the lowest prio on that list, and you'll likely pull on SA2 before reaching his masteries, so might skip him entirely and focus on better units at that point

[pine mulch]

What’s the best way to play Arknights on PC?

[abstract mauve]

if EN you use mumuplayer or ldplayer depending on your system

[spice gust]

oh ok, so first max out those 6* E2 and get modules and mastry, then 4* slaves and then E2 for base slaves. Got it

[lyric lagoon]

shileds got whitewashed

[abstract mauve]

[raven ermine]

No, first 4* slaves
Then lv60 mod/masteries on your good units, you can also e2 tequila since he's good both for combat, and needed for base with shamare
Then you can think about e2ing for base yeah

[abstract mauve]

i just redefined my identity as a pallas simp

[spice gust]

oh ok, the order was important, my bad xD

[lyric lagoon]

wrong channel to post this stuff, interesting nonetheless

[wraith shoal]

nobody doing that

still pretty cool,never thought you could do that. Doesnt it only work for ch9 to 16 though?

[lament loom]

Anyone can get whitewashed if live in EN country for so long tbh

[humble nova]

is gladia better than eyjalter to heal ulpi?

[raven ermine]

Gladiia, without taking the DR into account, is only 210 hps for a lv90 ulpi
Needless to say, the number is actually pitiful
If ulpi is on skill, it increases to 378, which is also pretty weak

[shadow bay]

now add 30% hp from spalter buff

[frosty flame]

what types of guard have multi target damage?

[pale tapir]

at the very least, centurion and liberator IIRC
ah yea reapers
not sure if all libs have multi target skills

[frosty flame]

ik there is reapers and some skills on liberators and swordmasters

[hoary ruin]

Crusher hits all blocked enemies. Ulpi's S3 also does a big AoE.

[raven ermine]

Centurions too

[frosty flame]

do all centurions hit blocked enemies?

[raven ermine]

That's archetype trait

[raven ermine]

Earthshakers have aoe baked in too

[pale tapir]

earthshakers have aoe
damn got snailed
if grace is the only primal guard she technically has multitarget skill

[shadow bay]

deym they will know i modded a centurion

[hoary ruin]

Sakiko too kinda. She's technically single target but makes enough projectiles with her S3 that she can deal with multiple enemies.

[raven ermine]

I mean, you mostly look past the archetype and straight into the kit when you want aoe
Especially for 6*

[pale tapir]

yeah some lord guards like lappy are multi target on skill

[light latch]

Shes directly aoe iirc, her phys notes pierce

[raven ermine]

This is aoe

This is multitarget

[light latch]

Sakiko’s on skill physical notes have a 0.8 radius true aoe hitbox upon impacting an enemy supposedly

[frosty flame]

tru, I ask because I ran into a mission where I had to defend 2 far apart lanes with heavy flow of enemies and silverash s3 is aoe but during the downtime his side struggled a little so I had to make be careful with tequila to help him out and I feel like it coulda gone a whole lot easier if I had say a second spectre so I wanna keep an eye out for aoe guards, tequila is goated tho

[hoary ruin]

Does she still have pierce on S3? The description doesn't mention it. I want to say that's part of S2 only.

[pale tapir]

second specter you say? blaze
pls don't raise blaze tho

[unborn kayak]

where in the boat game is this guy?

[frosty flame]

[light latch]

The keywords are defined in her s2 and her s3 just reuses they keywords without describing their effect so i have no clue

[pale tapir]

the phys note piercing effect u see with s2 doesn't happen with s3 but not sure if any small scale aoe effects of notes hitting on s3 exist

[raven ermine]

No, s3 notes don't pierce
Unless i missed some weird interaction, but i used it a lot and it definitely doesn't
It's also not a part of her talent, just her s2

[stoic nebula]

Cant i choice the map i want on the new event?

[shadow bay]

u can technically, but that would be in a private room

[raven ermine]

I can't find anything about aoe on her phys notes, and didn't see any when using her on blocked enemies, so if you know where the info comes from, hit me up

[shadow bay]

u cant select the stage if u just do find match

[neat mirage]

is it just these 3 or does struff like sleep count too?

[stoic nebula]

So i just need to luckly find someone whos able to clear ig-3 and also het to play ig-3

[frosty flame]

are there enemies that dont take up 1 block?

[shadow bay]

let??? do u want someone to coach u???

[neat mirage]

yea
theres enemies that take 0 block, 2 block, 3, 4

[frosty flame]

I see

[shadow bay]

but u can create a room, set ig-3

and share the code in #icebreaker-lockers , hoping someone would help u yeh

[stoic nebula]

Oh thx

[raven ermine]

The only thing i can find about 0.8 radius with the notes is the tracking radius and direction speed, no mention of aoe in skill tags or PRTS

[pale tapir]

yea I haven't noticed any sort of aoe dmg from her notes on s3 ever

[ancient lintel]

Wait did they release new type of E damage in CN? Like the corrosion shit?

[winter crystal]

buy the company, be the change you want to see

[waxen dove]

how many teammates can be in your team>

[severe crypt]

i believe a grand total of

1

[ancient lintel]

I mean I saw that the new 5* supporter in zima2's event is a corrosion ritualist so

[raven ermine]

They did
#help message

[undone wren]

global chibi wis skin wen?

[hoary ruin]

Next year, supposedly.

[proven kelp]

Corrosion looks meh

[undone wren]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-no-disappear-sad-noob-gif-24308846

[ancient lintel]

-120 DEF sounds kinda low icl

[abstract mauve]

hater energy

[abstract mauve]

you heavily underestimate what -120 defense permanently could mean

[hoary ruin]

Doesn't it stack too?

[abstract mauve]

permanent debuff yes

[ancient lintel]

I mean ye it's perma and it's infinitely stackable but eeeeeeehh idk

[raven ermine]

It is kinda low
But the cd is only 8s so at least they understood we likely will have to apply it a few times

[abstract mauve]

quilon going from 2000 defense to 0 defense means that kroos2 will beat him to death with just kings relics and roll his ass

[hoary ruin]

I think it could work once we have multiple units who can inflict it.

[raven ermine]

The units that would take advantage of that are obviously not out yet too, so you'll have to stick around and see how it goes

[abstract mauve]

the new 5* is guaranteed to be good in is5 for me at least. idk if she'll be good outside that tho

[raven ermine]

Isn't the injury pretty low on the new 5* ?

[hoary ruin]

Is negative defense a thing?

[reef sparrow]

Just slap arturia's kit to 6* corrosion ritualist

[formal shadow]

No

[hoary ruin]

Darn.

[abstract mauve]

is5 enviroment means that she'd almost instantly proc it anyway. that + the fact that she reduces its cooldown that even with a shit duration assumign 20 seconds, she'd still proc it like 3x at least in a skill. assuming better duration and her reducing the cooldown of it further, it could be quite good there

if she's anywhere above complete ass, i'd use her basically. she buffs kroos2 too much

[raven ermine]

Yeah i can see where you're coming from actually

[ancient lintel]

So far all elemental users are arts + elemental right? Except thorns I guess
So with corrosion they'll have to make someone who does physical + elemental damage to utilize it maybe? Cause it's def shred

[raven ermine]

Well no, they could just make a ritualist very good at applying it
You have other operators to take advantage of the -def

[abstract mauve]

her s2 deals physical damage apparently. that means close to nothing tbh

ritualist doesnt deal damage with aspd or atk buff and they sure as hell wont deal damage with no buff attatched lmao

[raven ermine]

Like any kind of good injury + cd reduction would go kinda crazy for def shred

[abstract mauve]

my 1 issue with her is that the numbers from showcase looked atrocious. i hope that was no mod and no masteries. i really do

[subtle dawn]

So I'm kinda stuck on 9-14 and the guides on YT use chen alter is there a f2p way to get her rn or is there any easier way I can beat this stage?

[ancient lintel]

Fair

[frosty flame]

I think I used a sakiko borrow for that one

[ancient lintel]

Imagine turning amiya into a sponge in IS5

[frosty flame]

tombkeepers go crazy tank wise

[subtle dawn]

Did you put her in the middle? On the right side of the blue box

[frosty flame]

I cant remember tbh

but I think most op dpses can help you out on that stage

[raven ermine]

Tombkeepers are only tanky in egg form
Else they have 0 res, 500 def and 10k hp, which really isn't a lot

[abstract mauve]

tombkeepers are marksman victims from my experience at least

nowadays anything competent kills them anyway

[subtle dawn]

Ok I will borrow sakiko wish me luck, and also what's her best skill and mod?

[frosty flame]

I think s2 is most consistent but idk

[slim tusk]

500 def is above e1 marksman paygrade

[abstract mauve]

well ye it wasnt e1 marksman

[slim tusk]

who would e2 marksman on 2026

[abstract mauve]

they stopped adding units to the branch but like there's quite a few marksman in spirit units out there

[frosty flame]

im tryna do 9-14 again rn and I think a big problem is the flamethrowers, they dont seem to like to retarget and just insta kill, im assuming the intended counter is smthn like dropping a dreadnaught guard on em?

[abstract mauve]

you can just face tank them tbh

[raven ermine]

You either bait their skill, or tank the burn proc

[severe crypt]

dreadnaughts in the big 26

[raven ermine]

Burn proc is only 1.2k art, so it's not that hard to facetank

[frosty flame]

they seem to do abt 2k arts damage

that doesnt seem right since it one shots a unit with 1.5k hp and 20 res

[raven ermine]

Burn proc removes 20 res for 10s
But it really is only 1.2k

[frosty flame]

idk maybe the visuals are lagged and the DoT damage is doin more than it seems

[proven kelp]

Oh she reduce the fallout cool down? That's neat
I haven't really seen the kit, i was just looking at the Corrosion itself

From my perspective, it's kinda eh
Like sure it's a Perma debuff, but by the time you do any meaningful reduction other stuff would have reduced it's HP much more than when your phy carry that was lacking in dps that warrant using a Corrosion debuff will do when they starts kicking in

I don't really play low rarity ops that much so I don't really appreciate the debuff but i can see the angle of it being very useful since lower rarity doesn't really have that high of a dmg ceiling so reducing them is better
But then again, why not just use Shamare

[abstract mauve]

this stage right? seemed pretty straightforward

[hoary ruin]

If you have Ulpi he can flat out ignore it iirc. Since he heals every time the flamethrower damages him.

[frosty flame]

kinda wacky that it removes 20 res tho, does reducing res do anything to a 0 res unit?

[abstract mauve]

it does nothing

[proven kelp]

No

[frosty flame]

alr

[frosty flame]

well he also gets upwards of 7k hp

[raven ermine]

The flamethrower units deal 12% of their dmg as arts per 0.5s
So 24% per second, at 600 atk before CM modifiers, that's 144/s
Likely your unit isn't full hp and you just take some more from either flamethrowers or random enemies

[frosty flame]

hes also a ground unit meaning you cant have it defend the box and tank the flamethrowers at the same time

[raven ermine]

And yes, ulpi fully tank those while gaining hp from them, and can s3 to remove burn injury

[hidden nacelle]

I forgot is reducing def below 0 I creasing or diminishing returns

[raven ermine]

You can't

[hoary ruin]

I asked a few minutes back and negative Def doesn't exist apparently.

[limpid yarrow]

yea you only go down to 0 def

[stray gust]

oh the flamethrower

[hidden nacelle]

oop sounds like sharply dimishing

[hoary ruin]

Which made me sad because....I wanted to reduce enemy to very negative defense and make beeg number

[stray gust]

I remember using penance s3 to meme them

[abstract mauve]

ye the shamare comment i do get. uhhh for is5 case, im not sure if the debuff persists through phase change. that would be funny to test. but for me raidian s2 and kroos2 s2 which are basically the highest dps my niche has to offer relies on enemies having low defenses.

honestly the difference between 500 defense enemies and 0 defense enemies when the dps is krooster is quite big. shamare cant do that reduction to the same extent. i think the bigger "problem" is that we dont have any competent low dph units so it's gonna be used mainly for meme clears. unless they make some crazy broken corrosion ritualist/primal defender soon that procs 3x the defense reduction, it wont be that relevant.

[limpid yarrow]

even if the status sucks its hard to immediately write off a future corrosion 6*

if you just read NI you would not imagine what they were cooking with traogida

[abstract mauve]

the idea of a future 6* corrosion applier is very enticing

[proven kelp]

[hoary ruin]

Yep. Need more data to say for sure if corrosion is good or not.

[formal shadow]

Surely it'll be broken in RA danger mode when you're already stalling for 10 hours

[limpid yarrow]

altho if you're trying to beat quilon to death krooster does that already with shamare and firework hand tbh
its a core part of the archetto degen core

[proven kelp]

I mean
Corrosion itself is mid
It's just depends on how they will make the ops who inflict make up for it's shortcomings

[raven ermine]

And now your ceobe does Zdps and you want to jump of a cliff 🥹

[hoary ruin]

Depends on how fast it can be stacked yeah.

[stray gust]

I just hope the ritualist that do corrosion works like virtuosa s2 and the cooldown to status bar is low enough to make use of it.

[abstract mauve]

if all a unit does is apply corrosion every 8 seconds exactly when it runs out, they'd still be a bad unit. so yeah it largely depends on who's applying it

[limpid yarrow]

i think its not a 0% chance the 6* literally just removes the burst duration entirely

like you'd have to speed up the burst cooldown or magnify the numbers somehow

[abstract mauve]

if the 5* can reduce the fallout duration, yeah that is more likely the 6* just ignores it lmao

[raven ermine]

I think the burst cooldown reduction is the most likely answer tbf

[formal shadow]

The one benefit is it being an 8 second burst cd base

[raven ermine]

It's already present on trag, and the new corrosion unit
They already lowered the cd compared to other injury types
Seems to me they're taking that route

[proven kelp]

I mean, lowering cool down of any ele type is always an answer to make it better

[narrow pagoda]

If this is what I see in the team tab, it means I'm not in a team? Is there a member limit on teams, only two?

[long owl]

Can someone rank each Sui operators based on meta tyy

[raven ermine]

Wang > shu > yu > nian > goobers

[formal shadow]

Wang >> Shu >>>> everyone else

[nova arch]

how long does the ark no nights event last

[abstract mauve]

wang>>>>>> shu >> yu > else

[stray gust]

wang > shu = yu > nian > irrelevant

[formal shadow]

Nah Shu is higher than Yu

More utility, more useful tp in most cases

[raven ermine]

Yu has one thing going for him
Shu has many

[rocky pilot]

From what I compiled from everyone I only have this

Wang > Shu > Yu > Chong > Ling > Nian > Dusk

[stray gust]

I would say they are on par in terms of usage though

[abstract mauve]

below yu, it doesnt really matter

[broken flicker]

has there been a past version of this, any clue when this will unlock?

[raven ermine]

Random EX8 stages don't count

[formal shadow]

Not really. There's just been recent showcases of Yu usecase

[abstract mauve]

the thing is i would call them good showigns for yu. where is shu with her good showings

[formal shadow]

7-18 hcm :clueless:

[abstract mauve]

wasnt that shu yu exu2 stall?

[raven ermine]

Jokes on you i play RA, we use shu

[limpid yarrow]

ccb4 max risk

[formal shadow]

Yeah that's the point. Shu was used as well

[stray gust]

below yu it still matters since you need nian for the 4 sui 3 defender

[slim tusk]

yu get optimized out

[abstract mauve]

if you arent gonna place the 4th sui, it doesnt matter

[slim tusk]

shu remain,other sui chopped for ela suzu

[quiet sandal]

is it worth levelling morgan and delphine to e2 for proviso team

[formal shadow]

Both Shu and yu were used for mechanist as well

[slim tusk]

243?

[quiet sandal]

running 252

[raven ermine]

You don't need morgan e2
Only delphine
The fact that the combo takes a CC slot is kinda

[light latch]

I would like to point out nian also buffs shu while in squad even if u never deploy her

[formal shadow]

You won't be using level 3 tp then so it's worthless

[slim tusk]

wut no point running them then unless you have max left

[raven ermine]

And yeah with a 252 MR you don't even get to run lv3 proviso tp

[quiet sandal]

my tps r lv3 tho

[raven ermine]

Are you max right ?

[light latch]

MR?

[slim tusk]

downgrade the tp if you have factory below level 3

[winter crystal]

cant wait to hear the levels of your factories

[raven ermine]

max right

[quiet sandal]

max right

[formal shadow]

Mastery rank

[light latch]

oh

[winter crystal]

4 lvl 2s

[quiet sandal]

my cc is kind of a mess idk what im doing tbh LOL

[stray gust]

why the f.... you are sacrificing 1 level 3 factory for 1 level 3 TP....

[raven ermine]

Then yeah downgrade proviso tp to lv2 and make a fac lv3 as nidhoggr said

Just use a random 40% for proviso if you have access to one

[raven ermine]

Basically try to include +fac +tp in each rotation
There are some combos that absolutely need a cc slot, but you'll see when you decide to run them, like pinus
If you don't, go for mlynar and smileys

[quiet sandal]

kk, or should i change the base layout in general

[stray gust]

ultimately you want an exodia PI/WP for your proviso, else just use a 35%/40% one like hoederer

[raven ermine]

No it's fine, just downgrade tp, up a fac, and you're good

[quiet sandal]

wat this mean?

[raven ermine]

Nothing you should worry about, they're tweaking

[quiet sandal]

wouldnt the lv2 tp be less efficient when proviso is sleeping

[light latch]

Theyre referring to a riic combo that needs like 4+ limited ops
Fiamatta refills morale once u get her

[quiet sandal]

or the lv3 fac is just that important

[raven ermine]

It would be, but not by much, and one lv3 factory is kinda huge, especially when you get to run lv3 fac combos

[light latch]

but also u can leave proviso until her sanity drains, put her away until she refills and then bring her back

[stray gust]

you would want to have a fiammetta sleeping in dorm for you, e0 is fine.

[raven ermine]

Like bryo, vermeil exp, etc

[light latch]

morale refills a lot faster than it drains

[hidden nacelle]

ya

[quiet sandal]

oh is it gigabis if i e2 fiametta refill proviso everytime she runs out

[raven ermine]

Yes that's the point of fia

[stray gust]

her base skills kick in at e0

[quiet sandal]

😓 i use her to make more books LOL

[raven ermine]

But you only need e0 yeah i missed that part

[slim tusk]

lv2 tp has higher droning multiplier so it somewhat offset the loss also you can also pop out proviso for droning while she rest

[quiet sandal]

so you... drone the lv2 tp when proviso is sleep?

[light latch]

Is there something better than vermeil combo for xp besides pinus setup

[raven ermine]

No, when you drone you put proviso back in

[quiet sandal]

also i dont think i have enough fac lv3 combos

running this for my current only fac3

[raven ermine]

No, pinus and vermeil are bis

[stray gust]

most base slaves averaged 30% efficiency, but under certain comp you can get like 3x 35% or so.

[hidden nacelle]

how does one even use muelseye

[quiet sandal]

i was looking at upgrading purestream to match with eunectes weedy for fac

also cos shes good in IS

[raven ermine]

You'll worry about those in time, but for example, bryo is way better in a lv3 fac

[quiet sandal]

whos bryo sorry

[hidden nacelle]

show ops you probably have some
and purestream is a e1 upgrade, innit
bryophata from eyja alter event

[raven ermine]

Nah bryo is e2
Purestream is absolutely mandatory tho, just e1 her

[quiet sandal]

https://www.krooster.com/u/lively-cherry-heron-071z

[light latch]

bryo still a 30% worker at e0 tho

[stray gust]

anyone here runs ros with anything else aside from e2 waai fu? aside from 5 level 3 factory that is.

[raven ermine]

Well your proviso isn't even e2'd

[quiet sandal]

working on it 😭 😭 😭

[light latch]

Vermeil combo doesnt seem worth using for me

[raven ermine]

Your 4* baseslaves also aren't raised

[quiet sandal]

i also need to e2 tequila idk which one to prioritize

[raven ermine]

Your 4* 🥹

[quiet sandal]

which ones u reccomend?

[raven ermine]

Well what are you running instead ?

[raven ermine]

check #bot-spam /baseskills
All those

[light latch]

Vermeil seems to be 103-104% on a 12hr shift but i dont even run them on a 12hr shift

i have a bunch of 35% exp factory workers which would be 105% i think

[hidden nacelle]

well vermeil doesn't go solo use the combo

[waxen grove]

Hii, I hope this aint a bad question, I just got back in arknights and theres no gamepress guides anymore, where can I find infos on upcoming banners?

[light latch]

I am clearly referring to the combo, on account of having said “vermeil combo”

[golden crest]

is she worth building

[raven ermine]

What's your vermeil team ?
Because with scene you ramp up for 5h and then you plateau at 106%, just keep that up for as long as possible, no need to dip after 12h

And those 35% can be used elsewhere if they're standalone, either in a bryo fac, like thorns2/gravel/bryo, or on their own/during downtime of vermeil/bryo

[hidden nacelle]

for your account probably worth, but also not a priority

[golden crest]

alright, thanks

[raven ermine]

Mod2 your trag, mod3 your sash, tuya is good upgrade her after those

[stray gust]

I remember my vermeil scene ceobe gives like up to 112% or so?

[rocky pilot]

When was narantuya released again

[golden crest]

who will be replaced sa2 and para2 comes?

[raven ermine]

You likely have +fac in cc

[obtuse pawn]

Any good swap targets on my squad that are obvious for when Silverash and Pramanix release?

[raven ermine]

you can likely replace surfer and myrtle with sa2 and pram2 without issues

[golden crest]

thanks

[raven ermine]

Would honestly ditch either monster or haruka first, likely for pram
You don't really need 2 vanguards for a gen content team, so your choice of daily flavor between sa2 and ines