help

[light sparrow]

aight thx

[boreal steeple]

Only when you're pulling characters you want. You rather want to pull on the last day of limited banner to spend less(well it's autoconverting anyways)

[winter crystal]

There’s no downside expect ori is used to buy outfits so if you can avoid doing it would be ideal if you plan to buy any

[raven raptor]

the "free" packages you get every 5/10 levels will convert some originium to orundum for you, right?
so no point in converting it before then, unless you need it

[light sparrow]

alright thanks
I am saving for the stronghold alliance banner

[undone portal]

just keep them unconverted, when youre pulling itll happen automatically if you pull without enough orundum

[winter crystal]

Hey give your the exact conversion of ori to oru plus extra stuff so it’s worth

[boreal steeple]

Just buy them, they're cheap anyways and have mats for better acc progression. 1 to 1 orundum conversion

[raven raptor]

yeah, but if you convert all your originium before unlocking one of the packages, then you can't get the package

[abstract mauve]

CN april 1st event teased yet? it's almost april 1st on CN server. or is it already

[undone portal]

not yet afaik

[winter crystal]

Conviction alter when

[abstract mauve]

i pray

[boreal steeple]

You don't need to convert op to orundum anyways, cuz its a stock basically

[winter crystal]

Still won’t know its gender

[abstract mauve]

na they should allow you to be able to select the gender using an amiya class like system

[undone portal]

gender is conviction, says on their file :ya:

[severe crypt]

That’s convicting

[knotty wave]

Conviction alter new talent: Enemy attacking her now has a 30% chance to deal 401% more dmg

[winter crystal]

“To nearby Allie’s”

[static arrow]

April fools event when..............,,,,,

[undone portal]

waiting for ark no nights on global

[abstract mauve]

naaaaaaa that would be hilarious. 30% chance to see the bear deal like 20k damage in 1 hit to them

[undone portal]

liang dph would go crazy

[abstract mauve]

also any way to get 2 module blocks?

[undone portal]

yellow certs?

[knotty wave]

💸

[abstract mauve]

[undone portal]

your tequila may have to wait until monthly reset im afraid

[winter crystal]

Too busy making all your ops lvl 69 for Ines masteries

[knotty wave]

Arent we having the we are reunion now event this year? 🤔

[static arrow]

Should I mastery my Ines s2?

[undone portal]

ines s2 is a completely different beast between sl7 and m3. very worth

[abstract mauve]

CN gets new april fools tho

[dense anvil]

What skill should astgenne alter be on generally, s3?

[winter crystal]

He has 58 E2s I think he’s goofin

[abstract mauve]

s3. s2 is fine as well tbh. decent afk skill

[dense anvil]

Understood thanks

[undone portal]

s3 has better damage, s2 is her permaslow niche

feeling ill end up using her s2 more often for it

[abstract mauve]

for a normal account s2 seems to be the one i'd use more. she slow decent enough off-skill and skill makes it slow more n shi

[rain night]

If I were to get salter should I think getting ines in the future?

[dense anvil]

Just trying to figure out what skill to put her on for stronghold

[static arrow]

I do??

[undone portal]

stronghold protocol? s2 for sure, afk uptime is nice there

[winter crystal]

Why do you hate masteries

[static arrow]

Cus I don't know how much of a jump m3 vs sl7 is
Also I need alloy

[severe crypt]

Fym you don’t know, that info is readily available

[brazen gulch]

the game doesn't tell and not everyone is aware of the wiki

[rain night]

Ak terra wiki

[severe crypt]

Is it not common practice to look for a wiki of a game you start 🥹

[static arrow]

Alright is there anyone else I should raise

[undone portal]

arknights.wiki.gg
prts.wiki
90% of questions people ask here are answered with a cursory look at these

[rain night]

You have so many e2s but you were unaware about the wiki lol
I knew about the wiki before I even started the game

[odd heart]

Ngl, I just keep an instant Mastery in my inventory to see jumps from SL7 to M3 (that is a bit of a whale moment though)

[dense anvil]

I do not "wiki", I do not do "research", if I can't faceroll a game and win, I uninstall

[severe crypt]

Thank you Kermit very cool

[undone portal]

🥱

[brazen gulch]

loving yu is complicated? 🥹

[ancient current]

quit yapping

[rain night]

Anyone ?

[winter crystal]

Ines S2 S3, Wis S2, lapalt S3 mod2, monster S2, hoshi2 S3, logos S1, hoe S1 mod3 (if you use), exu2 S2 S3 mod3, mylnar S3 mod 3, trag S2 mod 2 lvl 82, Ethan S2 mod 3

didn’t even get to lezi2 or naran

[lyric lagoon]

well they serve different functions than just cost manipulation, so yeah

[dense anvil]

Ines goes a bit lower in priority for sure, I think silverash alter's tankiness makes him much easier to use but that's more from an IS perspective

[rain night]

I just have simple vanguards I don't know much about the expensive ones kek

[rain night]

Got it. Tysm

[undone portal]

theyre both excellent dp gen units, bringing one or the other depends on what added utility in their kits you want them for

[rain night]

Oh i see

[median fable]

different use cases, you'll benefit from having both
I'd give the edge to Ines probably but the direct comparison lacks nuance

[rain night]

Basically both are good ops which are worth having in my roster

[median fable]

they really do very different things, ideally you want both and use one or the other depending on context

[abstract mauve]

hi chat. is it reasonable to have a slight hatred towards the episode 16 mechas?

[rain night]

Roster as in my roster of operators not my squad for clearing

[median fable]

only if you don't rarity abuse

[hoary ruin]

Yes. I found the whole "all enemies are invisible" to be obnoxious.

[abstract mauve]

im not sure how im gonna do these stages welfare only tbh. 16-16 ss2 was already annoying enough not welfare only

[hoary ruin]

It was a pretty clever way to counter the abundance of range a lot of meta ops have these days tho.

[winter crystal]

Cry’s in lapalt 🥀

[glass mural]

honestly, I'm really tempted to go raise Matsukiri once I'm done with my current Crownslayer project. Or there's definitely a couple masteries in the Nate is always in poverty backlog/not fully raised modules I could work on... this is a thinly veiled request for, gimme ideas.

https://krooster.com/u/angel-peach-ceobe-39wc

[rain night]

I'm satisfied with reaching till 16-15

[median fable]

are you raising matsukiri only because you like him? because I find him quite useless in your case

[static arrow]

What's with trag lv82?

[winter crystal]

Mod 3 greyy but no masteries

Also you could raise Matterhorn with mod for E4 IS6 pick

[tired pewter]

ritualists have level breakpoints for inflicting a status effect in a single skill use

[stray gust]

cutoff point for his s2 to trigger on boss within one skill

[winter crystal]

Break point. You aren’t using your trag to its fullest potential and he’s top 3 op

[glass mural]

Raise Matterhorn and stop slacking on Greyy it is. 👍

[static arrow]

Breakpoint for WHAT

[undone portal]

matterhorn is relevance? this is new

[ancient current]

matterhorn already had relevance with fremont

[winter crystal]

You might not realize since your trag has no masteries on S2 as well but if you use his S2 it should proc with one use on any unit if he has mastery 3 and mod 2 and lvl 82

[static arrow]

I see! Will level!

[undone portal]

idk is5 ed1 isnt really an achievement. is6 ed4 kinda is

[winter crystal]

Yeah bc no hope cost 4 block 🥀

[abstract mauve]

wis s2m3. i would imagine you are working on narantuya. you can go for whatever tbh

[static arrow]

What's the use for his s3 then

[median fable]

you can consider doing Wisadel s2m3 which is used in high aspd context
finish Nara s3m3 and consider modding her
Ifrit for res debuff niche
raising exalter but idk how I feel about it
finish Marcile s2m3
outside that there are some operators you can raise for base like Aroma but idk how much interested in base you are

[abstract mauve]

i'd ignore ifrit completely

[median fable]

like, I'd consider doing e2 bibeaq since you already pushed her to e1 lv46

[median fable]

hi rechord

[winter crystal]

Burst, it applies his proc on a significantly shorter cooldown in a wide area for a limited time. Pretty much prevents enemies from attacking during that duration unless they attack quickly like the bear. It will also deal a lot of damage

[ancient current]

sigh, hi

[abstract mauve]

wtf hiii rechord

[median fable]

meh, she's still used here and there and is basically the best at her job

[static arrow]

But s2 for damage?

[abstract mauve]

i dont imagine any future usage for her tbh

[stray gust]

guys how good/bad is the 2800 orundum skin pack?

[median fable]

well, she's niche for a reason. Same as Mosti, NG & co
we will use her once every blue moon like in a CC or sth like that and then bench her for the rest of the year

[glass mural]

It costs slightly more than the amount of OP it takes to buy a 15 OP skin.

2800/180 is 15.56 or so.

[hoary ruin]

Scam level bad. You can click on the "Click here" thing to see which skins are in it.

It's a random skin for an op you may or may not own. The only notable aspect is that it's a way to get skins without spending OP, except you can't choose what skin you get.

[winter crystal]

S2 is main skill S3 is niche, S2 allows you to deploy a deployable cat that explodes and lures enemies to it, the explosion (if you have break point) will do enough to proc his cc

This cat is also infinite use just goes on cooldown every time

[hoary ruin]

If you want an older skin just wait for the real fashion review with SA2. Then you can pick what skin you actually want.

[coarse notch]

you dont use tragodia for damage fyi, he just happens to deal some amount of damage

[undone portal]

oh wait a sec thats rechord. hi rechord

[hoary ruin]

Trag's AoE isn't bad, but his main job is to give you unlimited time to setup.

[median fable]

his "dmg" is basically the 6k fixed dmg he deals that most of the time won't kill all elites

[stray gust]

well I am currently sitting at 244 + 20 + 38 pulls so...

[severe crypt]

Offrate hool be upon ye

[glass mural]

Globally deployable cat nuke that deals some damage, indirectly provides additional survivability support, and forces the enemy to move backwards, potentially around walls.

It does a lot.

[median fable]

the main job trag has is the "survivability support" you mentioned, his job is literally stalling so much so that enemies won't even attack

[hoary ruin]

It really is criminal how short the cooldown on the cat is, for how much time it buys you.

[median fable]

it's the only reason a non dps unit is so highly regarded

[winter crystal]

Just get the reduced cooldown for deployables relic in IS6 and have him infinitely toy with bosses until they die globally

[hoary ruin]

lol....that sounds amazing.

[stray gust]

just fyi, tragodia cat is also considered a summon so if you play him in IS6 you can take the collectable that reduces summon redeploy time and spam his cat to the end of time

it has like 5 second cooldown or something with that collectable

[glass mural]

Oh right, sidenote.
Tragodia cat has high hit count.
IS6 has hit count enemy gimmick shenanigans. This is a fantastic thing.

Generally. It's like the Swiss army knife god of swiff army knives.

[winter crystal]

That’s….what I said

[stray gust]

I am EN; I don't read

[hidden nacelle]

yea but trag cat cant bllock or summon shadows of revenant

[winter crystal]

Also if people didn’t know you can select your cat summon when you place him down then retreat the cat for an instant explosion

[hoary ruin]

I did not know that actually. Noted.

[undone portal]

yep, keeping the cat deployed is just for the lure
if you need the damage out immediately, do retreat

[grizzled galleon]

How long does specialization take

[young glacier]

8/16/24 without operators who speed it up and uh... which one has poggers skill for that? Irene?

[glass mural]

Logos

[undone portal]

8hrs for m1, 16 for m3, 24 for m3 if im remembering right
speeds up when you assign a trainer

logos/irene for m1 and 2 into an m3-specific trainer is the fastest, but surely youre not chewing through masteries at such a quick pace where it matters

[winter crystal]

#help message this guy needs it

[undone portal]

im less concerned about specialization time and more about material cost for a list that long. what do you need masteries immediately for anyway, last minute cc prep?

[urban haven]

who's worth to recruit here?

[ancient current]

silence or waaifu depending on roster and current situation

[glass mural]

Is this the Silence one?
Edit: ah, it's the Silence one.

[winter crystal]

Well he’s got 58 E2s and about 4 masteries spread out between them

[buoyant sigil]

How’s pozëmka? Won’t pull but curious

[ancient current]

she's ok

[buoyant sigil]

… do elaborate..?

[spark moat]

when you exchange clues in the base does it line the people after your starred w/ the ones who recently sent you clues?

[ancient current]

reaching her full damage potential can be clunky, better options exist
but if nothing better she manages well

[buoyant sigil]

nice to know

[wind blade]

she's decent, good in focusing down a boss, okay at wave clear
typewriter's global range is flexible, but actually using it with her burst dps is finicky
overall fun to use but not my first pick

[real scaffold]

Is Chen 2nd alt standard operator I forgot

[ancient current]

standard

wang is the limited

[grizzled galleon]

How does mod 3 specialization 3 somehow do like double the dmg in videos ;-;

[stray gust]

chen 2nd alt as in ch3n and not ch2n?

[ancient current]

yes

[winter crystal]

Which one 😭

[grizzled galleon]

Sakiko

[winter crystal]

Defense and res ignore

[ancient current]

mod3 m3 versus modless sl7 usually has a very high difference

especially sakiko, anyway

[winter crystal]

Iirc it’s like 60% more damage? On Sakiko (just the mod)

[limpid yarrow]

mod2 removes her ranged damage reduction

and also she scales well with all buffs including m3 and mod

[grizzled galleon]

Tryna do this strategy now

[grizzled galleon]

Oh

[grizzled galleon]

How long does it take for specialization?

[stray gust]

sakiko mod1 basically increase her dps by like 25%, and mod3 doubling the def/res ignore can potentially doubles her dps.

[stray gust]

isn't that mod1?

[limpid yarrow]

oops

[ancient current]

is it not mod2

[stray gust]

let me check in prts

[ancient current]

it is mod2

[wraith shoal]

it's mod2

[grizzled galleon]

Doesn’t she only have 1 mod?

[wraith shoal]

mod lvl2

[grizzled galleon]

Oh ok

[hoary ruin]

Mods have levels.

[winter crystal]

If you start now? Uhhh 8+16+24 hours multiplied by 0.7 for basic guard skill reduction or if you have surtr multiply by 0.4

[grizzled galleon]

;-; can I still use the operator during it?

[hoary ruin]

Yep.

[winter crystal]

Yeah but the skill wont be upgraded until it’s finished

[wraith shoal]

you just cant place them in your base to work

[limpid yarrow]

0 hours with the m3 ticket time to play IS

[ancient current]

mod1/2/3 means module level 1/2/3 in our jargon
mod X/Y/delta/alpha qualifies the actual module itself

[hoary ruin]

The op who's getting the mastery won't be able to be used elsewhere in the base, but you can run maps with them as normal.

[grizzled galleon]

Ok I’ll do this to beat 16-16 once and for all

[wraith shoal]

we still talking about saki? If yes,she's not needed for 16-16

[grizzled galleon]

Irma send you my krooster to see what I’m dealing with ;-;

[hoary ruin]

I mean there are alternatives, but who knows if this person has them.

[wraith shoal]

yeah true didn't consider that,mb

[grizzled galleon]

16-16 https://www.krooster.com/u/big-rose-almond-078k

[winter crystal]

If I remember correctly you don’t have masteries and just mod 1 right

[stray gust]

oh mod1 basically gives 5 aspd + 12 more aspd when her attack range has more than 2 enemies, which is quite a lot here.

[grizzled galleon]

I have only done 30 pull tbf and yea

[winter crystal]

Yeah so you can start masteries now and actually finish the mod to lvl 2 or 3 if you have the resources rn

[grizzled galleon]

I think I might hopefully

[wraith shoal]

mod2 is pretty important for her,3 isnt needed iirc

[winter crystal]

Mods take lmd masteries don’t so that’s nice

[stray gust]

I feel that sakiko mod level > mastery level to be honest.

[hoary ruin]

Saki does work against the bosses in Ch16 though. Even if the bear killed her with a rock in one map >.>

[winter crystal]

Yeah but specifically for him he will need all he can get since sakiko is basically his only op

[undone portal]

not needed but its a pretty big boost
her module has incredible numbers and her masteries have shit numbers so that prio makes sense

[stray gust]

s3m3 vs s3sl7 is roughly a 22% damage improvement, not the best but nether the wrost though.

[undone portal]

yea, its not horrible but we regularly see better mastery improvements on dps ops

[grizzled galleon]

Lowkey don’t think ima beat it anyway ;-;

[winter crystal]

Again no big deal it’s a chapter release so you can come back to it whenever and complete it without losing out on anything

[stray gust]

aside from the bear where you probably need a cuora to bait/tank, sakiko can be your sole dps and do most of the job

[humble nova]

anyone know a stage where I can use s3 leizi2? I wanna try it

[grizzled galleon]

Ye but I want currency

Alrdy maxed shop but i want the manganese

[undone portal]

under tides boss stage is a fun punching bag

[winter crystal]

You can get currency by doing a lot of other stuff then actually running the event. You mean the event shop currency right?

[grizzled galleon]

Ye but it feel better to do story 11 chapters behind

[pale field]

Hi, I want to try Arknights again, but my problem is that I was following a guide to clear the stages with support operators and it seems like there's now a level cap for them, so I'm on stage 5-1 with level 5 operators. What should I do?

[frosty flame]

the level cap is dependent on highest promotion operator in squad iirc

[grizzled galleon]

Elite 2 your main operator and build up from up there

[winter crystal]

If you’re new you should have the E2 ticket

[abstract mauve]

you should have a 5* e2 voucher in your depot. use it on someone good

[winter crystal]

If you’re a returner maybe post your roster here so we can recommend a good unit to E2

[bright lake]

who was the last 6* that was added to recruit

[winter crystal]

Otherwise follow pins in this channel on who to use it on and how to build a basic team

[grizzled galleon]

I need better healers ;-;

[winter crystal]

Ptilo, silence

[grizzled galleon]

Ye but I feel the urge to pull but ik I gotta save

[winter crystal]

Keep that gamba in check

[grizzled galleon]

I want monster or haruka

[pale field]

My operators

[raven ermine]

Well yeah
you're supposed to raise your ops

[grizzled galleon]

I’m actually annoyed I spent more on skins in total than all my pulls

[undone portal]

passenger

[pale tapir]

be not annoyed at your based gigachad nature

[undone portal]

carnelian on cn

[pale tapir]

kelsey is coming to recruit with sashter right

[winter crystal]

You have an E2 unit it’s Lapland

[raven ermine]

Yeah but they're on 5-1 and all their roster is e0

[winter crystal]

Wisadel things

[pale tapir]

I think they might be used to games where u level up by playing with the units

[hoary ruin]

I feel your pain. Man I wish we got SA2 event before Icebreaker ><

[grizzled galleon]

Fr I sadly joined in last week of sakiko event so I couldn’t pull for hoshi or haruka

[winter crystal]

What’s your best op

[undone portal]

yaur

top op + summon stocks implemented

[hoary ruin]

Uh......honestly I've done pretty well since returning. Best DPS is Leizi2. Otherwise Haruka or Mont3r probably.

[pale field]

should i just level her up?

[winter crystal]

Ok noted if I see you I’ll make sure to grab lezi2 for my team

[pale field]

i can make her lvl 72

[median fable]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/edit?gid=693976745#gid=693976745
read this @pale field

[winter crystal]

You can put 20 cheap levels into her for some good stat increase but the rest of your units need love too

[hoary ruin]

lol what? You get to steal other people's OPs for Icebreaker?

[raven ermine]

No, why would you invest everything in a single operator
Raise your team, raise your baseslaves, read what JJ sent you

[grizzled galleon]

What operators you got on support

[winter crystal]

You can’t use the same ops so it goes into a draft mode on who gets what op. I can tell the game I really want lezi2 on my team and you’ll have to play without her

[dawn canopy]

Can i ask about which module is better for raidian in general.content

[severe crypt]

no we’ll just shoot you yes you can

[hoary ruin]

Ahhhh you take turns picking? Huh alright.

[raven ermine]

They can too, it depends on who get the first draft round

[winter crystal]

I plan to take everyone’s wisadel and see who just quits the match

[hoary ruin]

LOL

[severe crypt]

Since she only has is specific mods, the better one would be the one with the higher raw stat increases

[pale tapir]

does general content include inside is6

[severe crypt]

I would assume the distinction for gen content is sans is6

[pale tapir]

aren't both her modules IS modules tho

[severe crypt]

Yeah, which is why the better one outside is would be based on stats

If there is a clear winner at all

[limpid yarrow]

if you somehow have a maxed radian but not a good general squad she's like comparable to ling its quite interesting

[pale tapir]

piddlywinks of stats lmao
I'll take beta over alpha so I get +65 atk instead of +43
simce 165 extra HP is meaningless

[severe crypt]

Yeah that makes sense

[limpid yarrow]

many bad oeprators are worth less than a radian fish

[boreal steeple]

Actually goated take tbh

[abstract mauve]

raidian s2 is bagpipe s3 but ranged. raidian s3 is a solid arts damage option

33% better kjera

not even considering the helidrop nature of raidian s3

slow is nice in a pinch

[boreal steeple]

Its constant too

[abstract mauve]

s2 range also cheeses a lot of stages. ground units arent meant to have 5 tiles of range

[pale tapir]

being able to create a firing squad with s2 is great

[limpid yarrow]

magellan still has the "summoner with cc" niche on lock 🙄

[grizzled galleon]

Which is more important manganese ore or loxic khol

[pale tapir]

fartooth guard when

[boreal steeple]

Both are used very often. Manganese more tbh

[abstract mauve]

i didnt know wang was a ground operator. delta mod waiting room :waiting:

[limpid yarrow]

anecdotally i find myself needing the ore more often

[grizzled galleon]

Should I spend the event energy stuff to try get like 5 of each

[limpid yarrow]

but im sure its similar

[boreal steeple]

You should have at least 30 of them in stock

[winter crystal]

Ulipi S3 map wide range

[grizzled galleon]

Got 10 and 8

[raven ermine]

Just wait for sash event to stock up

[grizzled galleon]

If I spend all my energy I can get up to 20 18

[raven ermine]

It's more expensive in chapter release shop, and there's sanity there

[limpid yarrow]

id buy the boxes rn tbh

[boreal steeple]

Yea take boxes and get mats from RA shop

[grizzled galleon]

Ok

Boxes are gamble right?

[winter crystal]

Random mat yeah but they also give you a 10 sanity booster

[grizzled galleon]

Wicked

[boreal steeple]

Some t2-t3 mats and 10 sanity per crate

[sudden bramble]

u can let it leak these on this annihilation right? since they does not count as real enemies

[ancient current]

yes

[boreal steeple]

Dont leak too much tho

[sudden bramble]

9, maximum then alr, thanks

[urban sleet]

Is that ling event anni

[pseudo flume]

The floating cutlery

[urban sleet]

Ethan/asca showcase map

[grizzled galleon]

My biggest opps in IS6

[limpid yarrow]

the pots and pans

[hoary ruin]

I'd never seen those things before running into them in IS6. That run ended real quick :D

[urban sleet]

Feng shui is roadblock placement check

[pale tapir]

you don't have krooster either huh

[urban sleet]

Exemplary servjce can be a pain tho if you are running some weird comp

[limpid yarrow]

ente s1 clears the entire thing by herself 😭

[hoary ruin]

Huh? I have one.

[urban sleet]

Beyond mount and sea however :smileinpain:

[winter crystal]

Also flinger aftershock tech

[pale tapir]

then how have u never seen these enemies 😭
don't tell me u did is6 before iw

[boreal steeple]

Its even worse on em

[grizzled galleon]

Do they appear in story?

[urban sleet]

My first time with that stage was on em

[hoary ruin]

Because I quit mid Year 1, came back right before Leizi2.

[boreal steeple]

Some are from collab event, some from other limited events, some are is6 exclusive. (In dlc2 there will be the ch16 bear)

[winter crystal]

You left your ops to get milk

[grizzled galleon]

Ok

[hoary ruin]

Got screwed by gatcha too much, rage quit :D

[grizzled galleon]

Did game give returner rewards?

[urban sleet]

Thise teacups and co are from ljng event aka Invitation to Wine

[winter crystal]

Same

[grizzled galleon]

Couldn’t be be got 2 sakikos and the whole team in 20 pulls

[ancient current]

get back on topic

[hoary ruin]

I don't think so. I just had the stuff every new account gets now. The two selectors and some other stuff.

[pale tapir]

I don't remember any returning player rewards when I came back

[grizzled galleon]

defo getting shafted in silver ash banner

[abstract mauve]

there's a new event for returning players. and they reduced the amount of time needed to trigger it

[urban sleet]

I got few days of all supply stages being open, 10 mat vouchers and thats it

[pale tapir]

what does it give?
oh
that's why I don't remember it
practically worthless

[limpid yarrow]

i had this too i think

[hoary ruin]

Actually yeah, I did have access to all supp stages and some returner missions.

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah missions too whicb gqve lmd/books/exp/mats

[winter crystal]

Iirc like 180 days right

[abstract mauve]

it's like 1 month or smthn now

[winter crystal]

Ah

[urban sleet]

Thats not returnee gift anymore thats 'welcome back from vacatjon'

[left tulip]

Is doing h stages particularly rewarding resources wise

[hoary ruin]

Just do 'em once for the OP.

[pale tapir]

it gives u 4 in exchange for a "fun" challenge
u decide whether it's worth your time

[boreal steeple]

Only some t3-t5 resources for first time clear, and OP

[urban sleet]

You also get some t4 mats these days

There's medals too but you cant flex those

[hoary ruin]

I believe hell stages only have 1 time rewards anyway.

[young glacier]

and potential ptsd

[lyric lagoon]

it only costs 10 sanity per anyways, pretty cost efficient

[urban sleet]

Cost efficiency in exchange for harder stage sounds good

If you are struggling return later with good enough oos to make the stage a snoozefest

[grizzled galleon]

If I start a IS 6 rn does it get deleted if I don’t complete it by update?

[boreal steeple]

No, i got stockholm syndrome

[winter crystal]

It’s the irl sanity cost where they get you lmao

[boreal steeple]

You can leave anytime except during battle

[grizzled galleon]

Ok

[young glacier]

Btw if you have End Of Times relic which allow you to survive dying on not last node of floor (basically all non boss stuff) once you can exit during battle to skip it instead waiting for running of HP or something

[gloomy sundial]

Do IS updates ever include balance patches or are they strictly for new content?

[winter crystal]

People usually use that to rob floor one shop in IS6

[boreal steeple]

Except you dont get any battle-rewards

[urban sleet]

I rob by clearing the stage

[young glacier]

Not fighting IS6 shop battle is reward by itself

[median fable]

new content usually ends with a new meta, idk if you count that as "new balance"

[boreal steeple]

No balance patches, only adding stuff or adding harder difficulties

[coarse notch]

i dont think balance patches really exist in gacha games

[winter crystal]

If you’re asking if IS6 will become easier it won’t, it’s already considered one of the easiest. And D18 release will do the opposite

[median fable]

hg never nerfed sth, at most a couple of buffs here and there but not really "balance updates"

[coarse notch]

certified dlc1 moment

[pale tapir]

is there just a "rob cannot" button? how does this work

[coarse notch]

you touch him and he gets mad so you beat him up

[raven ermine]

"touch wares" spam it, and you get to fight him

[limpid yarrow]

you put the hands on him

[urban sleet]

Akshyally you touch his wares

[gloomy sundial]

Thanks for the info. I was more curious if they ever mess with existing mechanics like specific tongbaos or something similar

[winter crystal]

If you’ve donated enough ingots to him to unlock the function yeah, click to rob him then exit the battle immediately then you can take all his wares for free, but he won’t be in or sell you any future stuff in his shop for the rest of the run so avoid his nodes

[coarse notch]

nah, the only thing they ever changed was reducing the frequency of ling loop
and then they added flower squad in dlc1 anyways

[abstract mauve]

they only bug fix things. rarely if ever do they touch things like that

[young glacier]

If something breaks it usually get fixed on CN server way before it hit us. Well we get few global exclusive YOSTAR INTERN moments. Like H16-3 roadblocks being blocked by rocks which miners break for ranged tiles. Chapter 9 fireball pathfinding making it hit pillar and break it while it suppose to be for making beneficial path dammit!

[urban sleet]

Shop rob feature is available at a certain ingot investment tier (iirc its 50 for is6)

[abstract mauve]

"can cannot show you his wares?"

[coarse notch]

i do not consent to seeing cannot's "wares"

[raven ermine]

Not on f4 please 🥹

[abstract mauve]

definitely not on f4

[coarse notch]

dlc1 rob pattern is on f3 or f6 now no

[urban sleet]

The difficulty rises with floors?

[boreal steeple]

On f5 then /jk

[abstract mauve]

f3 or f6 ye

[young glacier]

H14 release on CN was legendary because they somehow broke bunch of code, CM/H modes bonus stats didn't work, H14-4 boss couldn't spawn, cutscene stages broke

[raven ermine]

Yeah
Didn't try f6 rob yet
But f4/f5 has a tendency to end runs early

[abstract mauve]

or if there's a good enough shop before that but rarely

[boreal steeple]

Kinda. For example ed4 bosky has buffed stats than regular bosky

[abstract mauve]

ed4 bosky also has different enemies in the stage. usually they add more. some are barely changed tho

the artillery drone stage lol lmao

[winter crystal]

It’s not that bad although by floor 6 I was very buffed

[slate ridge]

The Nightmare nerf

[raven ermine]

When i highroll i have zero issue with it
But i don't highroll every run

[abstract mauve]

wasnt she 1 shotting literally everything back then

[raven ermine]

With a bit of help

[undone portal]

blazealt s1 nerf :ya:

[slate ridge]

Stairs was an easy way to reach high numbers
But current Nightmare is just capped to 0 if you hit enough velocity from Weedy or Swire2

[abstract mauve]

could've been peak but they removed it completely

[undone portal]

blazealt being dp gen meta for a solid couple hours :real:

[gaunt vapor]

Do people in CN need to bring anything other than silverASH alt and Ines ?

[coarse notch]

bring anything where

[young glacier]

If you don't seek to murder stage boss in first 30 seconds vanguards are overrated

[median fable]

no one "needs" to bring anything unless specfic context

[little parrot]

Bring Podenco

[median fable]

wtf, thought soc lost mod status for a moment lol

[lyric lagoon]

I love frdknights with sashalt

[quiet sandal]

how is hoshi def calculated with s2 and mod? i cant seem to find out how this guy has initial 1239 def (before blocking for +20%)

[fathom nest]

wtf shu is alive

[young glacier]

Spoiler, you are "not" blocking phase 1 because bear keep slapping from range

[quiet sandal]

you can drop hoshi onto the bear melee for the +20% def cant you

[young glacier]

Well in that context yea

[quiet sandal]

but again, im asking how they have this initial def amount

[median fable]

s2

[fathom nest]

The mod also gives extra def to defenders, that includes herself

[abstract mauve]

so you have her (base defense from levels + defense from trust + mod defense stat) * (1 + def% from talent + def% from skills + def% from mod trait)

[quiet sandal]

my hoshi is s2m0 with modx1, idk what "breakpoint" i need to reach for her to be able to tank the bear comfortably with a healer

[median fable]

do a mastery and try each time til it tank the bear
or just calc it

[abstract mauve]

or just borrow tbh

[quiet sandal]

idk how to calc it, and i dont ahve the resources to mastery ( i have a m3 ticket from clearing IS)

[median fable]

don't use the m3 ticket on her s2 pls

[quiet sandal]

im borriwing another unit already

[abstract mauve]

[median fable]

just to be on the same page, is your hoshi dying?

[quiet sandal]

yeah in like 4 or 5 hits lol

[median fable]

are you healing her?

who are you even borrowing on first place?

[young glacier]

(723 base + 60 trust + 30 pot? + 140 assuming mod 3) x 1.3 from S2M3 is 1238.9 and game rounds numbers to integers (which is why you can dig up some cases of 0 HP operators etc)

[quiet sandal]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/lively-cherry-heron-071z my roster
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iDsuziEYm/?buvid=XU290922DC34DDB589AC6B7FFA909A81DC80A&from_spmid=search.search-result.0.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=HbSPY7IrFHktyJUZi%2BLvQQ%3D%3D&plat_id=116&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android&share_plat=android&share_session_id=d108379b-6b22-4dd5-81a4-08ecbe620a19&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1774988158&unique_k=oTYZHmk&up_id=398933914
im trying to use this strategy to bring the bear around to the other boss(around 5mins start)

the issue is that my hoshi cant tank the bear long enough for the miners to walk around and reveal the tile for silverash

[median fable]

you're forgetting talent 2

[young glacier]

Well it is literally not active when not deployed

[median fable]

isn't she deployed?

[limpid yarrow]

i dont think they let go yet

[median fable]

nevermind, I'm blind

[median fable]

are you using NG as your only healer?

[quiet sandal]

haruka support

using her on s2, i dont have tragodia to stall the bear long enough for her s2 to loop twice

[median fable]

borrow tragodia, it would be easier

[quiet sandal]

i dont know how to kill both bosses in second phase with tragodia and my roster

[median fable]

I'd recommend you asking this in #strategy , they will handhold you

[quiet sandal]

i did n someone linked me this crazy frame perfect ass tragodia clear thats nigh impossible

[abstract mauve]

wouldnt yu be better for this strat

[quiet sandal]

like it involved shifting the bear's aggro between 2 operators using totter's invisibility ignore, and another ally tanking hits from the other boss

i dont have yu and im kinda unaware what he does other than the fire wall thing

if i swap yu support over haruka, i have to replan my roster to clear phase 1 using yu and excluding haruka (need 1 other healer)

[median fable]

his 2nd worst thing

good luck mate, you'll be able to do it

[vital kelp]

whats the next event in en

[young glacier]

April stupidity

[median fable]

the one in the pins

[regal sky]

there is a website with like kroos on it that you can show people what operators you have and what masteries what is it called if anyone can help me please?

[median fable]

krooster.com

[quiet sandal]

thx but i give up lol

been on this stage for like 2 days, im sure some other player could clear with some random full 4 star e1 team but i aint that guy

[median fable]

you can add shining and see if her def buff is enough to compensate mastery/pots. Should be pretty doable

[abstract mauve]

i can assure you if it was easy it would've been done already. i am unaware of any 4* clear of the stage and it's been out for over 6 months

[quiet sandal]

can u still get this medal after the event ends?

[vital kelp]

yes

[severe crypt]

Yes because it’s related to the story chapter and not the event

[shadow bay]

h16-4 make u life rough huh

[sudden bramble]

ethan is actually a good aoe character if u dont got much stuff right?

i got good dps like silverash surtr and kal'tsit but i kinda need a aoe dmg too

[fathom nest]

His damage is trash

[shadow bay]

i wouldnt say hes good aoe unit... hes mostly used for bind control, and killing furnitures for dot

[sudden bramble]

yeah, thats was my goal

[vital kelp]

[sudden bramble]

considering i dont got much characters

[shadow bay]

well for that sure hes good for his rarity

coz seems like ur making song and dance for his damage, which isnt the case

[sudden bramble]

ight ill keep that in mind, its not like ill e2 him just e1 should be enough

[fathom nest]

Kinda needs to be fully built for him to be useful at binding

[shadow bay]

sure

to mention though ethan for usage want invesment, meaning s2m3 mod3

[sudden bramble]

ill check his module then

seems pretty cheap, it should be okay

[raven ermine]

If you're lacking "aoe", investing in ethan masteries and module is kind of counterproductive

[shadow bay]

he is cheap, but not a priority to build

utility units have their turn back in line... u prioritize dpses yeh

[raven ermine]

Because you're most likely relatively new, and would spend ressources on an operator that doesn't do what you seek

[sudden bramble]

i alr prioritize surtr silver ash and lappland i just need a guy that can hit multiple furniture, nothing much, on the annihilation i lost on 350 kills just cuz of that

[shadow bay]

for furniture killing even e0 ethan works lmao

ur just after his dot on s1

[winter crystal]

his dot on S1 kills them

[shadow bay]

the aforementioned invesment is when u want his bind utility

[sudden bramble]

yeah in this case ill just keep him on the e1 then since i alr had the materials it dindnt seem that expensive

[winter crystal]

yep and thats S2 E2 + mod and masteries

although you can kinda get around it if youre playing IS and have ridiculous attack speed

[abstract mauve]

fellow AK enthusiasts. when are we getting april fools event for CN?

[fathom nest]

Not sure on time but I'd assume after reset

[shadow bay]

deym do we rly dont have latest events that reward ceu??? freaking hoe need like 17 of it for some reason

[vital kelp]

buy from shop if u need desperately

[abstract mauve]

reset already happened

[winter crystal]

youre on a funky tz

[vital kelp]

we didnt get april either and reset also happened

[raven junco]

What to get? i have waai fu already

[fathom nest]

Do they not have a notice for it?

[abstract mauve]

this?

[vital kelp]

when is april event chat wtfart

wait the biggest april fools joke would be them cancelling april fools event without notice

[shadow bay]

what if devs want to prank u by delaying event, coz ur expecting something today

[vital kelp]

thats underaged people can play on these days(holiday) from 8-9

[fathom nest]

Get another copy unless you want either Sesa or Meteorite

[waxen dove]

you understand it?

[vital kelp]

no i dont i just look at scribble and spit out random bs

[abstract mauve]

what a random ass thing to give a notice on

[fathom nest]

Well they have a curfew over there

[white kraken]

Is it possible to get the old event furniture or is it locked?

[shadow bay]

id just pick whoever nearer to p6, or who already p6

can also gamble for case that if u dont have hi9m/her yet

[fathom nest]

If it's not in the store or record restore it's gone

[white kraken]

For the old Main Missions like Ch9

[glass nexus]

When are they going to release the pc launcher for global

[heavy basalt]

Does anyone know any common operators to substitute for Nightingale in guides? The only borrowable Nightingale that ever shows up for me is E1 level 40

[fathom nest]

We don't know

[white kraken]

Has HG updated that store for years?

[raven ermine]

Waaifu, for certs

[fathom nest]

Yes, it has new stuff added all the time

[proven kelp]

Haruka is much more "Common" than NG since NG is a Kernel

[white kraken]

For the story furniture?

[shadow bay]

i can lend u my ng

[fathom nest]

Don't care enough about furniture to look up where it's from

[heavy basalt]

🙏

[white kraken]

Ok thanks. I was looking at an old event furniture set but I wasn't sure if I was able to get it

Probably locked out

[fathom nest]

Just look for the set name in the store

[shadow bay]

it should be in event shop if chapter furnitures yeh

the only furnitures u cant obtain when missed out are the ones in collab

[shadow bay]

just give me a heads up or what...

although u seeing only e1 kinda sus... do ur team have atleast 1 e2 unit?

[uneven kernel]

I keep seeing Rostmontis mentioned as strong in IS5 specifically, but her module would work in any IS map, right?

[shadow bay]

as long as ur in IS, her IS module work

[heavy basalt]

Yeah, by team has plenty of E2 (some E1's for trust farm) but only she's not showing up? More of the newer operaters are max level /E2 lv60+tho when I try to borrow

[shadow bay]

rosmo mostly get highlight in is5 coz of lamp abuse

[shadow bay]

yeh ig u just need to expand ur friend that have ng

but like one said u can also opt for haruka (yeh lmao forgot how strong she heals, plus that sanctuary)

[heavy basalt]

Oh ok, thanks!

[sudden bramble]

do yall know what does the symbol mean ?

[severe crypt]

aint that the mystic caster icon?

[sudden bramble]

holy grammar issue mb

[fathom nest]

It is

[sudden bramble]

oh thanks

[wraith shoal]

story ones are limited,event are there but some parts you have to get from the event

[humble nova]

is lvl'90ing liberators good?

[severe crypt]

while theyd benefit from the small stat increases more than others, youd likely have much more pressing matters to put your resources towards than going for the lvl90

[turbid ocean]

5% extra attack your call whether it’s worth it

[pale scaffold]

How to use provision in RA

[shadow bay]

like the foods??? let ops eat it for the effects

[abstract mauve]

if you already have the provision made, you go to the operator page which is the first option at the bottom. go to adjust squad at the top left or make sure it's selected. now beside an operator there should be this icon that's like a tray with a cover. press on it and here you can select a provision. be careful tho since povisions generally have a limited duration. however some of them are unlimited in duration and you have access to them relatively early

[subtle dawn]

What's the best way to kill the snails in chapter 16?

[fathom nest]

Let the miners attack them

[pale scaffold]

Damn i thought provision buff is general for everyone

[winter crystal]

reedalt, miners, medicmiya

[abstract mauve]

have a healer to heal the person attacking the slugs. high dph attacks. elemental damage. etc

imo you can ignore the mechanic with the miners

[subtle dawn]

I used e1 lvl 45 mountain supported by both ptilo and purestream and he still died

I'm on 16-11 btw and the snails come from an area that miners can't access

[formal shadow]

Anything sourceless works

Thornsalter broken frfr

[abstract mauve]

tinman s2 works wonders ye

[subtle dawn]

Who's tinman 😭

[lyric lagoon]

just use daughter and her crush

[formal shadow]

The welfare from is5

[subtle dawn]

Bro idk what y'all talking about 💔

[formal shadow]

5* alchemist from Sarkaz Furnace Fables

[bright lake]

do any of the 5 ch16 medals go away when the debut ch16 event ends?

[wraith shoal]

no

[subtle dawn]

And tell me why I need tequila, specter, silverash and logos and two healers just to kill those damn bears

[formal shadow]

You don't?

[abstract mauve]

which bears

[lyric lagoon]

get logos delta mod

[vagrant juniper]

The regular mob bears, not 16-12

[subtle dawn]

The bears on 16-11 they so damn tanky

[abstract mauve]

havent seen anyone complain about them yet but they are quite tanky ye

[hoary ruin]

The normal bears also have a mechanic like the slugs. They have boosted def and rez unless you let a miner break the shell on them.

I think I used Lemon or Ray to deal with them.

[subtle dawn]

Damn I'm just bad at the game then 💔 😔

[lyric lagoon]

just logos delta mod

[vagrant juniper]

I used Typhon don't worry, just borrow an op

Doesn't hurt to do so

[subtle dawn]

Oh yeah I forgot I can just borrow a wisadel and one shot everything on that stage thanks guys

[hoary ruin]

they get ASPD too? Ew.

[abstract mauve]

kroos victims

[vagrant juniper]

Don't get used to this or you're going to complain anything un wis-able is "too tanky" or straight up "broken"

[abstract mauve]

100 defense enemy

[reef sparrow]

haven't seen them attack my ops ngl

[formal shadow]

Wis deletes them

[raven ermine]

Yeah without the DR they're so damn squishy

[subtle dawn]

Yeah ur right I'm not borrowing for this stage imma beat it with my units and my units only

[formal shadow]

:roswao:

[abstract mauve]

[wraith shoal]

no reason to go from one extreme to another. No problem in borrowing,just dont rely on wisadel always to bail you out

[subtle dawn]

I think if I replace mountain with S2 silverash and then put surtr where silverash was I should be fine

[abstract mauve]

doesnt have to be wis that you borrow. she isnt the only good unit in the game

[subtle dawn]

Imma def be relying on wisadel to bail me out of that one stage with the actual tanky bear that I've been hearing about

[undone wren]

Yes rely on ines instead 🤭

[wraith shoal]

wis aint even that good there

[lament loom]

Inb4 the bear targets the one who is dealing the most dmg

[abstract mauve]

wis can solo the stage but she needs rng

[wraith shoal]

yeah ik just an example

[hoary ruin]

Give each stage a reasonable number of attempts with your ops and then borrow some help if you can't crack it without help.

[lament loom]

Wait, can bear target Wis thru her camouflage?

[native cargo]

how do u distract the big ahh hand in IS 6 ed 2

[vagrant juniper]

Can't wait to hear about hoshi1 instead

[wraith shoal]

it's the one who deals most damage

[lament loom]

IS6 ED2 claw? Just fast redploy

[subtle dawn]

Bruh 💔

[abstract mauve]

dont think so

[wraith shoal]

just use hoshi with healers and you're good

[native cargo]

no but sometimes it doesnt change target even i fast redeploy

[subtle dawn]

Ok bet hoshi1 right not hoshi2?

[abstract mauve]

it has specific targetting. most in a 3x3 > bottom most > left most

[wraith shoal]

yeah hoshi1,she's tankier

[lament loom]

So it targets rocks... or anyone else dealing daamge that isnt camouflaged to the bear? Huh interesting...

[raven ermine]

If you know the targeting it's quite easy
It'll prioritize clump of allies > operators placed at the bottom > operators placed at the left side

[vagrant juniper]

Make sure it's s2 mod3

[lament loom]

Oh I see. Then check what @abstract mauve just said.

[subtle dawn]

Also guys I have another question I almost have 180 gold certs is there any 6 star worth buying rn in shop or is there one coming soon?

[raven ermine]

Right now no
Coming soon we don't know

[vagrant juniper]

I'd save those for pulls in case of SA2

[subtle dawn]

Oh ok

[vagrant juniper]

Provided you don't have enough saved up as of now

[subtle dawn]

How many do I need to buy all the pulls?

[raven ermine]

258

[lament loom]

What's Pramanix2 archetype and main feature for using her?

[subtle dawn]

Oh ok that's kinda alot but do-able I guess

[supple wolf]

For rerolling do I go for mantra

[vagrant juniper]

Feature: so I can look away from the screen

[subtle dawn]

Yeah

[raven ermine]

She's a phalanx caster
S1 is niche pushing skill
S2 is afk with good damage and crowd control
S3 is big damage in a wide range with lure baked in

[shadow bay]

hmm lmao jo banner later seems doo doo also for rerolling

lemuen kinda neat though for her burst dmg

[abstract mauve]

s1 is niche (good) not niche (derogatory) since it has actual uses

[vagrant juniper]

S2 enables me to play arknights without playing arknights

[shadow bay]

m9 pram alter as she deserve it

[astral bear]

you deserve a bouquet of flowers

[lament loom]

Huh, she seems good on paper then. Thx for the info.

[raven ermine]

She is very good in practice too, in case you're wondering

[undone wren]

So like whats m9? I thought masteries are only until 3?

[vagrant juniper]

M3 all three skils

[undone wren]

Ou

[vagrant juniper]

3x3 = 9 quick maths

[lament loom]

Feels like Pramanix2 is like Logos + Tragodia

[shadow bay]

deym i thought that was 23

[limpid yarrow]

pram2's afk ability blows every other afk operator out the water

her dps on afk is many old operator's dps on skill

[vagrant juniper]

Yeah me too, took me a while because I can't count numbers after relying on wisadel to blow up all those hp bars

[limpid yarrow]

while also spanning a very large aoe
with her own cc
and can freeze the box for blockers

[abstract mauve]

carnelian s3 average dps is an afk skill now with slow + cold utility and with a revive

[limpid yarrow]

damage isn't that low 😭

[raven ermine]

And cuter, wcyd

[vagrant juniper]

Cuter than sarias new skin?

[abstract mauve]

i blame the dps bot 🫡

[shadow bay]

u all looking down to carnelian smh

[abstract mauve]

anyway it's like 2.2k dps or smthn

[limpid yarrow]

like when it comes to s3 it's like tied with logos maybe but her s2 is just new levels for afk
must pull for anyone wanting to skip gen content

[lament loom]

Patriot as DPS check dummy

[lament loom]

Sanrio skins is cuteness overload imo. Mmmm, Goldenglow yes.

[limpid yarrow]

surtr's famous ultimate is only +330% attack
guess who has +380% on an infinite afk skill

[lament loom]

Wadahek is that numbers LMAO

[abstract mauve]

it's the funny

[limpid yarrow]

to put it in a more direct way
pram2's s2 is chalter(no mod) s3 but infinite

[lament loom]

Thats crazy outclassing Surtr s3 with simply having bigger numbers scaling and acts as AFK skill

[abstract mauve]

btw it should be atk scale not atk%

[raven ermine]

Carnelian dps on s3 charged is 2.5k
pram2 dps on s2 without the snow tiles accounted for is 2.2k
All according to arkdps

[bright lake]

question - just to make sure, are story debut week long events, still the most efficient time to spend sanity?

superceeding efficiency that of reg events iwth boosted mat drop rates

[limpid yarrow]

i guess you have to specify shotgun chen but ya you have a fully infinite skill that matches her s3 but also has the cc and cold from snow and the frozen blue box and

[lament loom]

I forgot, Pramanix2 can generate terrain like Chen2?

[limpid yarrow]

three whole typhons on an afk

[abstract mauve]

wasnt typhon s2 no crit like 550 dps per arrow or smthn

[limpid yarrow]

ya she spreads snow everywhere which does damage + inflicts cold + slow

[lament loom]

Cuz I know Ceylon apparently interacts with Chen2 water terrain gen

[raven ermine]

Yeah snow tiles, she generate them passively, faster during s2
Module help generate them faster too

[limpid yarrow]

every cn player has it ingrained into memory that hypermax typhon only reaches 799 dps against 0-2 weight targets 😔

[abstract mauve]

799

[raven ermine]

🤮

[limpid yarrow]

the famous number

[abstract mauve]

actually insane

[limpid yarrow]

synonymous with typhon 😭

[lament loom]

Welp, truly an operator of all time

[abstract mauve]

wait so you're telling me the CN folk succeeded in the war against the typhon glaze ?

[severe crypt]

By not killing typhon shills

[abstract mauve]

ye nasti s3 is a permanently active tile that gives +60% atk. it's the giga slop combo

[limpid yarrow]

also a nice high ground anywhere to solve range issues

[abstract mauve]

it just takes a bit to setup but if you do the gen content enemies die in a few seconds

[wraith shoal]

What's the chance to get an offrate limited op in a limited banner?

[raven ermine]

We have that in pins

[severe crypt]

100% for Offrate hool

[lament loom]

What do u mean by that? DP cost or having to activate the same skill multiple times or have to wait long to activate skill?

[abstract mauve]

nasti tile needs to be upgraded 3 times to be permanent after which you can remove nasti. it takes around a minute iirc. it also costs a bit of dp since nasti herself isnt cheap and you have to place her summons

[winter crystal]

so low you might as well ignore its there

[lament loom]

Ahhh understood, kk

[wraith shoal]

So when getting a limited op, it's like 99% of the time the rate up?

[abstract mauve]

in most gen content stages that shouldnt be an issue really

[lament loom]

I guess Nasti is pretty niche op then

[wraith shoal]

Man I'm never getting wisadel with those bum ass chances

[winter crystal]

exactly, if you want an off rate limited youll have to spark the vast majority of the time and even if you do pull an off rate limited it might not be the one you wanted

[raven ermine]

Is nasti even used anywhere yet ? Outside of relicless and low ops ?

[winter crystal]

💳 or move on there are plenty of ops and coming ops that do a lot of damage like wang

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah i've seen about that actually
And leizi2 bouncing rooms

[wraith shoal]

Are the offrate ones like the normal banners,where every limited is offrate,or are some completely unobtainable depending on the banner?

[lament loom]

Funny Chen3 s3 toilets

[wraith shoal]

It's not just about dmg tbh,her skin is fire too, would love to have it

[raven ermine]

Sounds like an expensive skin if you account for 300 pulls and 24 op

[winter crystal]

not really sure what youre asking :/

[undone wren]

Reverse psychology huh? Nice move hai mao might bless you

[mild yacht]

Sui are only on CNY, summer are only on summer, collabs are only on that specific collab.

[abstract mauve]

in 1 pull you have a 0.2% of getting a random off-rate limited. for the rate-up limited it would be 0.7% so around 3 times less likely to get them

[limpid yarrow]

the past 5 limiteds are on the banner(they're rated up compared to normal operators but thats like very small vs small)

[abstract mauve]

when you go for a specific one it's waaaaay too rare

[wraith shoal]

Let's say I pull for Mantra,and don't get her but instead I get an older 6*,like Mlynar. Could the same happen in sash2 for example,and get shu?

[lament loom]

Even funnier is Chen3 using the event mechanic against the enemy. Where does that dragon come from, again? It has like two mechanics with producing colored noodles for the pot. It's like Sui related theme.

[hoary ruin]

AK has like 3 different pools of limited Ops. If you want to know who's in each one, Roadless Camelot in the Pins has that info.

[undone wren]

If you really want wis rerolling is an option xd

[heavy basalt]

oof

[undone wren]

Or yk spark

[wraith shoal]

Honestly that doesn't seem THAT bad

[lyric lagoon]

yes, 3, celebration (anniversary and half anniversaries), carnival (summer), and festival (cny)

[raven ermine]

The past 3 no ? There's 5 copies of them in the pool
And all past limiteds are included in the pool

[winter crystal]

sorry buddy and even if you could now youre getting into lottery territory of probability

[heavy basalt]

I guess I'll save a while for Wis then

[winter crystal]

you got a month

[limpid yarrow]

no not shu

[heavy basalt]

At least I got lucky with Shu

[wraith shoal]

200 pulls in a month trust

[limpid yarrow]

because shu is a sui banner
you can offrate shu on a sui banner like wang

[raven ermine]

Yeah ofc
All past limited of the same banner type

[winter crystal]

300 to spark wis 200 for ros

[lament loom]

I wonder if there will be an operator outclassing Wisadel at its current stage

[verbal tangle]

Jessica alter good?

[abstract mauve]

she's fine. mid nowadays tbh

[raven ermine]

decent, nothing outstanding

[pine plover]

not good reason to pull or buy her via gold cert when limited banner is within the horizon

[wraith shoal]

Already have 100 so I guess I'm...close? Coping hard but it is what it is

[hoary ruin]

Wang on the limited banner after SA2 does. Kinda. Similar damage, requires a more active playstyle.

[verbal tangle]

Aight imma hold into my gold cert for now ig

[winter crystal]

^ wouldnt really recommend it even if we didnt have a limited banner soon

[lyric lagoon]

outclassing her in what? cause if it’s raw damage she’s been outclassed for awhile

[raven ermine]

You're not, you're missing 160 pulls, just, don't spark

[lament loom]

Not just raw damage, but considering that she's used for almost any content in Arknights for how easy it is.

[wraith shoal]

Yeah, probably gonna rely on luck. Not like 200 pulls in a month is possible anyway

[abstract mauve]

mlynar with mod outdamages wisadel. being a part of the best hasnt been solely about the damage for some time. ig wang breaks that mold by just having crazy high quality damage

[vital kelp]

outdamage in what condition is the question here

[abstract mauve]

the condition is 6000 defense

[raven ermine]

I cast ceobe

[vital kelp]

u cant compare shit without context

[limpid yarrow]

the condition is 0 defense wang against 80 res is wis at 0 defense

its not even close
and for afk pram2 is beyond busted

but in IS she's still quite good
she's lost her dream in CC tho
and daily content is soon to be trivialized

[winter crystal]

"afk" and "busted" in the same sentence gen chat is very happy

[raven ermine]

At least they're not running slop anymore

[abstract mauve]

she's the first actually good afk ability

[lament loom]

Wisadel's features being like, self-camo, spawning rocks that apparently have better stats than defenders (minus the block count) is something HG cooked up.

[winter crystal]

no they will still have typhoon

[raven ermine]

If they bring typhon for afk nowadays, they're broke bums anyway

[winter crystal]

cant wait to see typhoon in icebreaker games

[rocky pilot]

Or they just using typhon for two big reasons

[winter crystal]

gonna grab her for my team then never deploy her

[pine plover]

even her s3 gimmick was taken over by lemuen

[random mountain]

Never thought seeing this in 2026

[rocky pilot]

[subtle dawn]

Guys I think I'm on the stage with the big scary bear anyone got a hoshi1 with mod3 that I can borrow to beat this?

[lyric lagoon]

in terms of damage? cause haruka exists

[pale tapir]

no cuora?

[abstract mauve]

trueeee

[subtle dawn]

Nah, I was told to borrow a hoshi1 one cuz she's rlly tanky

[mild yacht]

-# She doesn’t need mod3, nor lv90.

[vital kelp]

wisadel3 is a good afk ability

[rocky pilot]

Is there no nian in your borrow list?

[pale tapir]

cuora e1 works if you have enough healing
just don't try to tank bear when enraged

[severe crypt]

Someone need nian

[abstract mauve]

my sankta miksa is up if you need them

[wraith shoal]

In limited banner, it's still possible to get non limited 6 stars right?

[abstract mauve]

willing to put up bison as well

[random mountain]

Hikki#8812, i'll put her up

[subtle dawn]

I don't have cuora, and if I don't tank bear when he's enraged what am I even supposed to do 💔

[pale tapir]

stall him until he's not upset anymore

[severe crypt]

Anger management 101

[abstract mauve]

bait him around using his agro during phase 1. he walks towards units that hit him

[pale tapir]

I used 4 e0 decel binders and beanstalk
you can even use melee units or trag

[subtle dawn]

Thank you 🙏

[subtle dawn]

How would I get enough dp for that tho

[pale tapir]

myrtle
lyudmila trag 2op stall
mr nothing exu 2op clears

[rocky pilot]

The 500 videos of people bullying the bear in YouTube and Bilibili

[pine plover]

i beat that stage without vanguard, i dont knkw how you dont have enough DP

[subtle dawn]

I watched those but my brain is too small to pull off the stuff they doing 😭

[abstract mauve]

raidian crownslayer. crownslayer sankta miksa 2ops

[pale tapir]

infinite solutions

[rocky pilot]

So we have those dp generation like those lmd supply stages when fighting the bear now

[pine plover]

there is a risk in using haruka in this stage cuz she deals damage on heal, and thus becomes the bear's target

[pale tapir]

haruka eats bear rocks ez no issue
the issue is the stun, since she can't heal ur defender when stunned

[subtle dawn]

I'm using purestream, ptilo, Ansel, and hibiscus and spot for healing wish me luck

[pine plover]

getting stunned then the 3 hits clawing

[mild yacht]

Just don’t make your blocker the main dps.

[pale tapir]

I used e0 gavial e1 hibiscus and e1 sussurro you're fine

[rocky pilot]

Good thing I have a built lumen for no reason other than I like him

[pine plover]

since the bear can also hit your ranged operator if close enough with its "melee" attack

[subtle dawn]

Ok wait so do I only try and tank him in his 2nd phase when he's done being enraged? I don't try at all in his first phase or when he's enraged right?

[pale tapir]

? bear should be perma attacking your defender that isn't beside ur healer

[mild yacht]

Even Tragodia in Eyja2 s1 can tank the rocks.

[pine plover]

it priorities highest damage dealer, and haruka s2 damage is 200% of heal amount

[pale tapir]

ok and? she eats rocks for breakfast
just have someone else to keep ur defender alive while she's stunned

[rocky pilot]

She has seen things in 1-7 to begin with

Ops got too hungry in 1-7 they ate some excess rocks without the doctor knowing

[vital kelp]

whats the gimmick of ave mujika stages

[pale tapir]

moonlight
wakes enemies up and makes them hyperactive
source changes direction, can be blocked by ops

[vital kelp]

ok moonlight what

like netherbrand tiles?

[pine plover]

light that is checked per tile causing some lag

[mild yacht]

Mobs in light are buffed, mobs not in moonlight aren’t. Moonlight can shift directions during the stage.

[vital kelp]

like netherbrand tile in the lathaenia event?

[pine plover]

and then you have 1 enemy that do the opposite

[pale tapir]

no
just watch an SS stage clear video bruh

[pine plover]

like the showlight in act or die

[pale scaffold]

Lathaenia? What's that

[pine plover]

but opposite

[pine plover]

that shit is iberian

[light latch]

Specter alter they mean i think

[pale scaffold]

Stultifera navis?

[mild yacht]

Or like NL light, but most mobs are the drunks that sleep in the dark.

[pine plover]

like darknight memoir but with light

[mild yacht]

But nightlight or lightnight?

[pine plover]

floodlight

[severe crypt]

@ light

[vital kelp]

i mean the light rays that change direction to op facing since u said they change direction

but since its tiles i said netherbrand

[pine plover]

programming-wise, the game check the light on each tile individually

[vital kelp]

so its random?

[light latch]

[pale tapir]

bro will do anything but watch a clear

[pine plover]

no, it's just making stuff run like a shit

[mild yacht]

No, go read #game-news message

[lament loom]

H16-2 cocaine bear, what levels and mod Hoshi needs to be in order to survive the bear's dps while being healed?

[pine plover]

because it checked each individual tile if it's lighted up or not

[vital kelp]

ok but what does that actually m ean

[mild yacht]

Light can shift directions like the sandstorm and is global unless blocked by ops or moth pupa.

[vital kelp]

each tile is checked indivisually

what does that even mean

[lyric lagoon]

do you have shining and haruka

[hoary ruin]

I had to borrow a maxed Hoshi1, who was being healed by Haruka, Saria, Mont3r and E1 Sussurru. If you have a maxed Shining she should be enough with Haru and a medic defender.

[light latch]

can u pls just read the game news post instead

[lament loom]

Don't have Shining

[light latch]

Borrow one shrug

[lament loom]

I assume borrow her then? I only have Haruka, Saria, mod2 Hoshi (not sl7 s2 unfortunately)

[glass mural]

Depending on comp and strategy, you don't actually need Hoshi.

[lyric lagoon]

unfortunately you’re not gonna be able to face tank h16-2 bear then, and if you do you’ll have some difficulties

[light latch]

How do u have a mod2 hoshi but shes not sl7 wtf

[lament loom]

Long time ago, I was a newbie haha

[pale scaffold]

Dont think you can tank with that, better stall

[hoary ruin]

I tried with my own who is similar to yours in investment and yeah, she would not live long enough.

[light latch]

u dont even need to tank the bear

[pine plover]

you want that 700+ def
more the better

[lament loom]

Hoshi is like 832 def at E2 lvl 60 (max trust)

[lyric lagoon]

truly the rare shining pull

[pine plover]

this is like minimum with healers

[pale scaffold]

Max hoshi modx3 m3 is like ~1.1k-1.2k def when blocking someone

[glass mural]

Bear do be very rage-baitable, stunnable, and bindable.

[pine plover]

freeze it

[lament loom]

Can this still work if I borrow maxed Shining?

[lyric lagoon]

do you have sankta miksa raised by any chance

[light latch]

The stage literally hands u a setup to copy the beginning of 16-12

[severe crypt]

Yall know nian exists 🥹

[lament loom]

Nope.

[pine plover]

ulpianus dies in 2 attacks

[lyric lagoon]

not on phase 2

[pine plover]

1 attack

[hoary ruin]

Yeah...the bear in rage mode will eat poor Ulpi alive in two hits ><

[pine plover]

[light latch]

This is some EN brain shit going on lmao

[lament loom]

Hmmm

[light latch]

Phase two timer can be stalled with two lvl 1 decel binders

It takes the bear so long to walk across the bottom row that getting hit by a Slow twice runs the clock out

[lament loom]

Tragodia s2 can work?

[pale scaffold]

If he doesnt eat rock

[glass mural]

He's part of a 2 man run, so yes.

[lament loom]

Wisadel Tragodia?

[limpid yarrow]

tragodia clownslayer

🔥

[glass mural]

Beary stunnable.

We got a welfare last year who's entire schtick, purpose, and reason for being is stunning.

[light latch]

For phase 1, the game practically feeds u a setup

[pale tapir]

exia alt mr nothing

[lament loom]

Welp, this could potentially work, I just need to figure out how to stall the bear and / or facetank the bear

[light latch]

the bear walks right into the middle of the enemy lane

[lyric lagoon]

face tanking is harder than stalling

[pale tapir]

oh you mean a trag 2op clear
idk then

[rocky pilot]

How much of a difference can matsukiri atk buff provide for tragodia

[lament loom]

I guess the goal is to survive phase s1 and then stall phase 2 to let bear rage run out?

[glass mural]

For bonus points, Ethan binds, Ines binds, and insert random low cost operators really really, ragebait the poor guy.

[pale scaffold]

What's the encounter with a triangle on top in RA mean, will it start a raid?

[lyric lagoon]

ambriel in the corner forcing him to go across the entire map

[pale tapir]

ray binds too

[glass mural]

He's very vulnerable to ragebait and crowd control.

Very very vulnerable.

[lament loom]

He's not immune to Frozen and Stuns apparently

[lyric lagoon]

average gacha gamer basically

[light latch]

If it werent for the stupid fortbreakers at the end of the stage u could probably 3* only clear h16-2 pretty easily

[lament loom]

I'll cook a lineup and post it here if this is viable

[hoary ruin]

Yeah....the rocket attack on those things is terrible.

[humble nova]

is the ch16 simulations permanennt?

[subtle dawn]

How do I get cuora?

[lament loom]

Army Heavy Artillery is the fortbreakers or different one?

[pine plover]

Fortbreaker is Fortbreaker

[lyric lagoon]

recruit with defender + survival/defender + defense and pray hg gives you a 4* (or just pull her)

[lament loom]

Oh huh nvm then

[pine plover]

Artillery is the Fart Cannon

[subtle dawn]

What is the chance that I get cuora from this tho?

[lyric lagoon]

considerably low

[subtle dawn]

Is there no other way to get her?? 😭

[lyric lagoon]

nvm she isn’t even in the survival pool

[subtle dawn]

Ah hell nah i guess imma be using beagle for a while then

[lyric lagoon]

you could also just pull her or get her from the damn expensive 4* voucher in the green cert shop

[subtle dawn]

Is the 4* voucher worth it?

[upbeat iris]

hey, ch16 medals, can you still get them once event is finished

[rocky pilot]

If only cuora is still purchasable for red crets

[formal shadow]

should be

[rocky pilot]

They’re not event medals so

[upbeat iris]

nice

[rocky pilot]

Oh yeah supposed to ask this

How much of a difference maker is tragodia with the 10% more atk from a e2 matsukiri

[balmy panther]

whats his level

[hidden nacelle]

if you don't have module level breakpoints then possibly otherwise not really

[rocky pilot]

82, mod3, max trust

[balmy panther]

then not really?

[hidden nacelle]

then no

I mean 10% will be a difference just not huge

[languid swallow]

what are the conditions for the extra stuff in 16-13 and 17 and all that jazz

[formal shadow]

none

[pale tapir]

have u cleared the entire chapter (excl. H stages) and claimed all the rewards you can in the footprints mission list

[languid swallow]

ah not yet, then ill go ahead and do that 😴

[pale tapir]

the hints for how to get the hidden items are also written in the stage description in red

[lament loom]

Erm, so I cooked up a lineup. Can this work for stalling H16-2 cocaine bear?

[subtle dawn]

Logo's best mod is the delta mod right?

[lament loom]

Nvm I replaced Mon3tr and Ethan with Hoshi2 and Surtr S3

[subtle dawn]

How come when I look at logos mods there's only one there the one that gives 1 sp every time he attacks an elite enemy or a boss

[limpid yarrow]

scroll down

[subtle dawn]

I'm so stupid 💔

[vital kelp]

are mods always ordered default > x > y > delta > alpha or is it by other order

[lament loom]

@lyric lagoon Welp, stalling is easier for sure

[wraith shell]

Is it a no brainer to E2 amiya

[severe crypt]

It’s a no brainer to do the opposite

[hoary ruin]

No reason to because it's expensive to do so.

There are like 2 story maps that ask you to E2 her, but you can just skip the end of ep 8 and go to nine. Likewise you can skip the end of ep 14 and go to 15 as well.

[subtle dawn]

Isn't logos sp mod better than the necrosis mod cuz the sp one helps him get his skill up faster which deals big damage

[severe crypt]

And then you lose out on the original source of said big dmg

[hoary ruin]

Generally elemental damage is more valuable than straight Arts because stuff is less resistant to elemental.

[gentle dove]

You need her E2 anyway for a lvl in story, ch-8 if I recall correctly?

[light latch]

Sure but no reason to e2 her ahead of time

[gentle dove]

Fair

[hoary ruin]

As I said, you have the option to skip the end of ep 8 AND ep 14, which removes the need at all.

[subtle dawn]

Even if the enemies have high res doesn't logos s3 still do good damage to them?

[severe crypt]

You do realize that he no longer deals necrosis sans module

[hoary ruin]

Someone else will have to answer that because I don't have Logos. But I don't think he would be recommended very often if he wasn't decent.

Elemental procs like Necrosis are pretty good damage though, if the numbers I see from Nymph are anything to go off.

[pine plover]

some elemental injury applied based on damage dealt, some based on atk stats directly

[subtle dawn]

Can someone explain necrosis to me I dont rlly understand it from the games description? How big is that 8% necrosis that his mod gives

[fathom nest]

It's just ritualists for atk applied isn't it?

[light latch]

Primal defenders iirc

[fathom nest]

Hm

[proven kelp]

Being part of their kit tends to make them Atk based aside from Primal Casters

[fathom nest]

Makes sense

[abstract mauve]

basically. there's this bar that fills up. 1000 for normal enemies and elites. 2000 for bosses. 8% of logos's damage dealt goes towards this. so if he deals 1000 damage, 80 points goes towards this 1000/2000 bar. once it fills, it activates the fallout effect

[fathom nest]

Primal guard should apply too then

[subtle dawn]

And what does the fallout effect do? It wasn't letting me click on it

[tall atlas]

Is Sash s2 generally his best?

[indigo spoke]

something missing here

[light latch]

Bosses and elites have 2000 elemental hp, if 8% of logos dmg is elemental dmg it takes 25k dmg to fill the bar up, at which point they will take 12k pseudo true dmg over 15s

[subtle dawn]

Also thanks for explaining

[proven kelp]

Its a old one pls understand

[abstract mauve]

for friendly necrosis, it deals 800 elemental damage per second for 15 seconds and it prevents any other elemental injury from building up the bar. it also halves enemy atk which decays from 50% less atk to 0% over the duration of the fallout

[indigo spoke]

old one doesnt have yuri? sadly

[proven kelp]

Funnily enough, they aren't, well from the current available ones

Seems like Archetype that are designed to benefit from Burst have them at Dmg based

[abstract mauve]

necrosis***

[pale scaffold]

Do i get guard, sniper or supporter headquarters buff in RA

[subtle dawn]

Oh damn that's strong, is it easy fill up that necrosis bar tho? I feel like 8% is kinda small

[proven kelp]

Just get VG buff, everything else is kinda whatever

[fathom nest]

Classic HG

[pale scaffold]

Isnt vg buff just +4 dp

[light latch]

+4 initial dp in a gamemode where u spam deploy operators

[fathom hawk]

who’s best caster in IS6

[proven kelp]

Yes, which is big since RA has a stage limit on most stuff so deploying your units faster is better
not to mention you always start at 0 DP so its really a big boost

[vital kelp]

wang

[abstract mauve]

8% is enough for logos to apply necrosis once during an s3 cast. depending on enemy res he applies it earlier into the skill allowing him to deal more total damage. i believe up to 90 res, he's able to apply necrosis during s3 consistently. this is an extra 12000 damage per skill not counting the extra elemental damage from the talent

[fathom hawk]

isn’t he like not out yet 😭

[light latch]

wang both isnt out and isnt a caster

[pale scaffold]

I dont think dp is a very big problem when i can just carry a vanguard like ines

[abstract mauve]

for most enemies this is applies within a few attacks

[proven kelp]

I mean, you do you
Just get whatever ones that increase your dmg

[subtle dawn]

Damnnn that's strong wtf as soon as I e2 my surtr I'm def gonna work on getting his mod

[pale scaffold]

Aspd then

[abstract mauve]

his mod also has a pretty good talent upgrade that helps make it a pretty good mod overall ye. one of the best

[fathom nest]

Casters are kinda dead in IS6 aren't they? I don't think Pram is even used much outside of a couple stages

[proven kelp]

Casters are dead

[abstract mauve]

i've seen people praise pram2 for ed2 at least

[slender temple]

Not even Logos?

[vital kelp]

how long ago was dlc2 for is6

[abstract mauve]

logos is ass in is6 icl

[gentle dove]

Here I recorded my logos without module (hold on for the next)

[proven kelp]

Logos is literally rotting

[gentle dove]

And with

[subtle dawn]

Damn you didn't have to do that but thank you, and yeah the damage difference is big lol imma def get his mod before fighting the bear

[vital kelp]

logos is as overrated as i said he is

[abstract mauve]

he's just showing his age now that we're consistently getting good units. the gap between him and wis is no longer "he's the 2nd best unit"

[proven kelp]

What a bum, can't even kill a years old meat shield