help

[spice patrol]

Bellone event is mini side story right? Like entel

[gentle gust]

yeah, vignette or wtv its called

[urban sleet]

Yes, its called vignette event

[green anvil]

Hey guys which tag should i choose?

[spice patrol]

No rerun banner..

[urban sleet]

I am sure even mlynar would work for that stage but okay you got a chen2

[urban sleet]

Supporter for suzu 50/50

[pale tapir]

top op supporter for suzu gamba
sniper would be funny for cheeto but I'm guessing you don't have suzu yet and losing to exia would suck

[obtuse berry]

I have almost maxed out Mlynar (except lv) but I got skill issue so...

[mild turtle]

who's the other op for supporter top op

[gentle gust]

magallan

[urban sleet]

Magallan

[gentle gust]

i read somewhere shes mid

[urban sleet]

She is really, but if you are goated you can use her to stall irrc

....in your own creative clears that is

[green anvil]

Yehhhhhh

What does she do exactly?

[polar pier]

Is this worth buying or will I just get an oversupply? I can auto SSS.

[pale tapir]

slow in a huge area and apply fragile
she's kinda useless before e2 tho tbh
just like her mom

[nimble kite]

Increase the damage output for others.

[urban sleet]

Buying doesnt hurt

[brazen gulch]

supporter trainer, among gameplay things

[green anvil]

Wait so ima ditch Silverash e2 and focus on suzu?

[pale tapir]

absolutely not

[urban sleet]

Do your dmg units fitst

[nimble kite]

Increase the damage output for others.

Megabruh.

[urban sleet]

Imma be real unless you improve your gameplay you would be watching guides for harder stages, in which case suzu usage would drop

[haughty obsidian]

ops with sniper training skill?

[pale tapir]

krooster
wiki has this info probably

[green anvil]

Tbf i have like logos surtr saki so i think i need support more than dps?

[nimble kite]

W.

[mild turtle]

ops with specialist training

[pale tapir]

🥹 no

[polar pier]

The thing is, my Module Data Block can't keep up with the the Data Instruments so I was thinking if it's better to just go with the Emergency supplies for sanity and mats

[urban sleet]

Get one more, raise her after you have worked on your dmg 6 stars, and what I said

[green anvil]

So e2 silverash then e2 suzu?

[urban sleet]

Yeah go for mats and sanity pots first, its just you earn currency very easily so why miss out

[green anvil]

I’m dented so y’all might find me annoying

[sacred cave]

Do you have a krooster?

[green anvil]

Yeh but I’m not home rn

[nimble kite]

Suzu as last, when you done with all DPS providers

AND, and only and

If you sure you need more damage and could arrange that.

[polar pier]

I'm talking about the 100 points unlimited emergency supplies. Not the cheap one

[urban sleet]

Dw I remembee you sd the giy who said teq is hard yo use

[pale tapir]

you're not annoying it's funny tbh
more dps is never bad
better base production is never bad

[gentle gust]

is bellone any good on laneholding

[pine plover]

well about that

[urban sleet]

Ah t3 mat crates, meh get mod mats imo then those

[green anvil]

Well i know how to use him now XD

[gentle gust]

the mf teleports everywhere so im skeptical

[sacred cave]

Bellone is a funny unit to use

[pine plover]

if his block count get reduced to 0, he stucks on teleporting until skill ends

[mild turtle]

how do i see people deploy ops insanely fast, especially in annihilation

[pine plover]

bullet like reflect

[gentle gust]

that sounds so funny but probably miserable to anyone using him 😭
and im the anyone too

[urban sleet]

We are getting monhun with a rerun gap aftet bellone so pulling for him is kinda as for bellone himself he's more def shred and multi-hit dmg with s2 and funni single-target-at-one-time-dmg and dodgle gambler

[sacred cave]

When would the monster hunter Collab be? Should be the next big thing after cny right?

[pine plover]

s3 move counts as redeploy so his talent get refreshed

[gentle gust]

post wang update, you can deploy operators while paused, pre wang update people do pause buffering or whatever its called where they deploy operators and then pause, then play, deploy, pause

[polar pier]

Even though my Module Data Blocks can't keep up? Like, the usual is 12 blocks 20 instru and 60 stick. If I use up all my block, I'll still have more than enough instru and sticks thus the oversupply I'm talking about.

[urban sleet]

Robin is welfsre from mansfield break event (very first sidestory in "those who take the future", she's a specialist trainer

[gentle gust]

ik rerun isnt confirmed but is yato2 still good cuz i might get her

[pine plover]

she is still good, unlike texas2

[urban sleet]

Thats something I wanma ask too, ik she good but is she the optimal choice anywhere

[nimble kite]

TexasAlter?

[robust thistle]

well she has her S3, which is like, free damage

[pine plover]

texas2 dies to slug reflect without killing any

[drowsy hollow]

What module would yall pick for saria? I checked the pins and they are equally rated

[robust thistle]

y1

[nimble kite]

Ah, Yalter. She shines in Ep16 indeed.

Could even brush Mortars in one S3.

[gentle gust]

texalt flopping faster than yatoalt is definitely fun

[limpid sorrel]

hey, is there an approximate date for SA2's banner? is it after Mantra or is there a joint operation in between? (I'm asking based off on the arknights wiki banners)

[robust thistle]

we dont know

[median fable]

I think texas2 is overhated

[pine plover]

yato2 has both super armor and invincible frame after all

[urban sleet]

I personally would still prioritise them over t3 mats, simply cuz IS and RA give them too (RA tons) others prefered the mats like they reacted/responded to your first instance of of your query

[nimble kite]

Read Channel Rule 5 and drop the question.

[gentle gust]

like april probs, hard to say since they lowk fuck up schedules a lot

[median fable]

fell off but seems like you'r'e desribing lessing lol

[limpid sorrel]

o mb.

[nimble kite]

I agree. Especially when enemies are much tanky either of them cannot kill them, TexasAlter has CC to delay them or make them weaken upon taking Stun.

I never substitute TexasAlter unless most of enemies are Stun Immune.

[drowsy hollow]

What saria skill should I m3?

[prisma oyster]

Hello, I'm new to playing Arknights, and I just got an operator voucher. Which one should I get? Liskarm, Silence, Projekt Red, or Pramanix?

[robust thistle]

pins, roadless camelot, newbie voucher guide

[coarse notch]

none of them, s1m1 at most

[median fable]

or don't use her s3 and switch to s2

[prisma oyster]

Oh okay, thank you 👍

[nimble kite]

You just make Yalter win once again.

[cinder hearth]

The s2 remains pretty ok, even if it's fighting with tragodia.

[urban sleet]

S1m1 really
Nornally I could say s3 if you want to get creative with your clears, but thats a big if since an optimal account doesnt use her s3 at all
Also wang soon

[median fable]

honestly I stopped using her since Tragodia s2

[slate ridge]

S1 silence usecase moment

[nimble kite]

Lappies exist.

[urban sleet]

Hey she's the only limited to be kind to my pull stash 🥀 and the first limited I managed to get

[pine plover]

enemies not having silence-able ability enter the stage

[acoustic atlas]

hi, after the whole 10 days passes, will the furnitures in this set become unavailable or free to purchase anytime soon?

[light latch]

unavilable iirc

[acoustic atlas]

no reruns?

[pine plover]

no rerun, gone gone

[light latch]

they dont rerun chapter releases and have not added a way to obtain chapter release furniture yet afaik

[acoustic atlas]

also how "renewable" are these furniture parts
like how fast do you stock up on them thru regular gameplay

[wintry anvil]

New player here. How do I beat 16-7 in Abnormal Spectrum

[light latch]

very renewable

[formal shadow]

just place ines and canta and wis and trag and exu2 and hoshi2

[acoustic atlas]

so like i can dump furniture parts on this and get them back quickly for future events?

[robust thistle]

if you play regularly you can buy every new furniture set

[light latch]

you get a steady stream of furniture parts from dailies/weeklies, event shops, random drops from stages, and credit store

[acoustic atlas]

alr cool

[pale tapir]

I would take this discussion to #strategy so it doesn't get buried and ppl can help u better

[wind storm]

Furni part acquirement is much faster than usage

[wintry anvil]

Thank you

[nimble kite]

Defend the bluebox area with 2 Block Vanguards not facing left, accumulate enough DP for medic and slug killer.

[acoustic atlas]

Is module lvl 3 ever worth it cuz (unless im wrong) ppl always recommend lv2 module

[light latch]

module dependent

[median fable]

module level recommendation are given case by case

some ops need mod lv3, some don't even need it

[nimble kite]

Maybe Lv3 is not worth the price.

[lyric lagoon]

some don't even need lvl2

[nimble kite]

Like Surtr give shitty +2 RES-ignore for 4 more T5 mats.

[acoustic atlas]

did sakiko need lv3 or just 2

[proven kelp]

3 or fraud

[cinder hearth]

She wants 3.

[lyric lagoon]

mod2 is minimum, preferably you get mod3

[acoustic atlas]

alr i made the right decision lol

is it worth getting lappland mod tho

[lyric lagoon]

which one

[light latch]

which lapp

[acoustic atlas]

original lapp

[raven ermine]

Lappland guard no
Lapp caster mod1 at most

[median fable]

if it's a 4/5* you generally won't mod them unless it's for some niche situation

[cinder hearth]

Lapp guard has an ok mod tbh, but you want to save blocks for your 6* ops for the most part.

[raven ermine]

It's pretty shit let's not lie to each other

[median fable]

for the general player they are placeholder for 6* and mod blocks are a hard capped material

[mild turtle]

any advice for iw-9

[formal shadow]

wis solos it

[lyric lagoon]

you shouldn’t need to use lappland with a half-decently built acc anyways

[acoustic atlas]

wdym
like theyre not renewable and only more obtainable thru events?

[cinder hearth]

Relatively better than a lot of low star mods
Look at shit like Frostleaf and Mutsumi for instance

[raven ermine]

They're time gated so you only get so much each month

[acoustic atlas]

so kinda like

[median fable]

only sources are monthly in red cert shop, a little amount of it in event shops and login events, SSS first clear rewards
only other source is real money

[raven ermine]

Sure but you brought frostleaf into the mix now, so uh

[lyric lagoon]

but why are we saying this in relativity to low rarities and not just every op as a whole, that’s just a waste of blocks

[acoustic atlas]

so its really scarce then

[mild turtle]

wasn't she already shit at e2

[median fable]

he meant that in a vacuum it's not a bad mod considering the gains, obv he's not recommending it

[cinder hearth]

Because I already said you save blocks for the meaningful 6* mods.

[median fable]

like how Rosa mod improvement is good but you shouldn't mod her

[raven ermine]

Basically you can expect 12-15 modblocks per month if you don't miss any, sometimes a bit more
It's one mod3 for a 6*, and a bit more

[acoustic atlas]

How many data blocks did today's event sell, i cant check cuz i already bought them all

[cinder hearth]

Ch16 gave 2, iirc

[acoustic atlas]

oh
so thats why some guy told me to get those data blocks in cert shop always

damn holy material starve

[raven ermine]

Yes, it's a big part of mod blocks income

Tbf it's time gated, but if you're not unlocking useless modules, and keeping the recommended levels for each one, you shouldn't have an issue raising your ops

[haughty holly]

@median fable hi hh

[cinder hearth]

Talking about income like ts is a job 🥀

hh

[acoustic atlas]

What are the SSS first clear rewards from

[acoustic atlas]

at some point gacha games do feel like a job

[rocky pilot]

Make arknights content and treat it like a job

[haughty holly]

HH is the cousin of jj

[cinder hearth]

5 blocks per first SSS

[acoustic atlas]

i mean what gamemode is that

[cinder hearth]

Stationary Security Service. It's next to the annihilation operation.

[acoustic atlas]

oh that
uhh how hard is SSS
as someone that only has a small handful of good 6 stars

[cinder hearth]

Easy enough

[odd sky]

so easy it's boring

[nimble kite]

Easy if you have a lot of Snipers or Casters.

[acoustic atlas]

Is it sss per "stage" (theres 2 rn)

[lyric lagoon]

super easy if yk what ur doing

[cinder hearth]

You stack up some buffs, then plop down your borrowed carry op, usually someone like ie Wis'adel, and call it a day.
It's a set of 6 stages per SSS operation.

[nimble kite]

In one "stage", there's 6 stages.

[copper axle]

Does annihilation keep getting updated?

[acoustic atlas]

yeah theres mama john's and galeria ruins

[cinder hearth]

Yeah

There should be guides on YT for both already. They've been out for a while.

[nimble kite]

Yes. At least release of new maps.

[copper axle]

Well I've cleared a lot this reset time
Only 4 more left

[acoustic atlas]

also at what point do i worry about holographic combat matrix, contingency contract, vector breakthrough (and how do i unlock the latter two)

[nimble kite]

It's high-end stuff and they requires a lot of account investing.

[acoustic atlas]

so endgame stuff

[raven ermine]

The latter two are seasonal game modes so you just wait until they come around

[nimble kite]

Don't push too hard if you cannot beat it.

[acoustic atlas]

requires a really built acc?

[raven ermine]

Not really

[nimble kite]

Matrix stages requires 5 certain SixStars. Minimum. For 15 Score.

[raven ermine]

620 score CC (which is all you need for rewards) is usually pretty easy

[acoustic atlas]

Is HCM time gated or nope

[cinder hearth]

Matrix is pretty tough especially when you start cranking the risk. But there's no timegate or meaningful rewards.

[nimble kite]

Permanent. Won't leave anywhere. But CC and VB are.

[acoustic atlas]

Is it also a recently added gamemode

[nimble kite]

Yeah, January, I believe.

[cinder hearth]

Pretty new, yeah.

[acoustic atlas]

Is that why theyre locked rn?

[cinder hearth]

Oh no, cc and vb just rotate through.

[nimble kite]

Yeah. Because it's seasonal events.

[acoustic atlas]

ah alr

Also whats a good source of information fragments?
i heard buying them in cert shop isnt good

[raven ermine]

Just wait for a vignette event

That's basically the only source outside of shop

And yes, buying those in shop is not great

[acoustic atlas]

Is it those kinds of events thats just story content?

[raven ermine]

When they release the first time they have stages associated to them, but the reruns have only the story yes

[lyric lagoon]

yeah but the debut has playable stages and an event shop

[nimble kite]

And 8 temporary stages and 2 special stages with banner op provided to show his power.

And no new enemies or event mechanics.

[acoustic atlas]

huh
that sucks
i guess those are timegated ?

[raven ermine]

Kind of

[nimble kite]

Yep. You will lose Primes forever if you miss that.

[raven ermine]

iirc the debut banner also do not rerun

[lyric lagoon]

you shouldn’t care about record restoring special ops anyways, unless you need like a few gold certs for some reason

[raven ermine]

Those would be the most expensive gold certs of your life tho, so even then i would definitely recommend considering other options

[acoustic atlas]

maybe just for completion's sake

[raven ermine]

Yeah just wait for a vignette event and stock up in the event shop
They sell fragments in the infinite shop

[lyric lagoon]

well if you do complete them, you get a pitiful amount of resources that are expensive for the amount of red certs you put in

[acoustic atlas]

yeah thats why im taking the suggestion to get them from vignette events

[buoyant sigil]

Got confused after reading the in-game “details” page. Is pity between debut banners and reruns shared? What about orienteering and such?

I’ve read the info on pins, and that’s exactly why I’m confused.

[proven kelp]

No
That's why it says that after the banner ends it's also gone
Read the one on pins

[abstract mauve]

you read the one in roadless camelot?

[abstract mauve]

he said he did just asking if it's your one in specific

[proven kelp]

Wait, is there other pity guide here?

[abstract mauve]

uhh at some point before they reformatted. idk if that's still the case

also i thought recollection banner didnt share pity

[spice gust]

When you gather material for promotion and stuff, is it better to craft them or doing the stages?

[proven kelp]

Oh ye they shouldn't, typo

[median fable]

hiiiiii

[raven ermine]

You farm blue mats, called t3, and you craft the higher ones from those

Except for rocks, because t2 (green one) is better to farm from 1-7
Check /material in #bot-spam

[abstract mauve]

also work on clearing event shops for mats

[spice gust]

yeah that's what i need for haruka, i knew about 1-7 but i wasn't sure

[wet ermine]

Can someone who still hasn't completed 16-18 record the lobby and let the theme play out at least once, please?

[raven ermine]

1-7 has overall better rates because of sidedrops, and byproducts from crafting with t2 mats

[spice gust]

that's good to know, i'll keep that in mind

oh btw, should i build Necrass? i pulled her the other day

[abstract mauve]

unless you're very stacked then yeee

[raven ermine]

Depend on your account but i would say yes

[spice gust]

should i send krooster?

[abstract mauve]

that doesnt seem necessary

[haughty holly]

Yes

[raven ermine]

I have a feeling necrass would be great for you, you seem relatively new

[spice gust]

yeah, don't have that much tbh. for now just Hoshiguma and Thorns E2

[abstract mauve]

well she'd be amazing for you then

just work on her e2 tho. she's not the best before then

[spice gust]

does she fall out later on?

[abstract mauve]

she doesnt hold up in high level content but you dont have to worry about that at all for now

[raven ermine]

In hard content basically
She has a huge summon with big stats, so statchecking will fail at some point

But for general content, 14.5k hp, 2.5k atk will be fine for pretty much everything

[abstract mauve]

ye but the summon has very big stats so that shouldnt be a problem as long as you are using her right

[spice gust]

ohh okok i see

[regal phoenix]

For new chap, is more medic in range = more heal to miners or no?

[abstract mauve]

ye. the heal is based on their atk stat as well

[regal phoenix]

Do perfumer passive n bard heal them also?

[abstract mauve]

i dont think so. believe it's just medic range but i havent tested it myself

[raven ermine]

Didn't try perfumer, but skalter wouldn't heal them

[odd sky]

just specifically medic, and regen doesn't count

[still breach]

haruka also won't heal them

[jade latch]

To get Raidian to Elite 2, I just need to clear any ending by completing Guided Tour 2, even if I don't clear it with ending 2?

[boreal steeple]

You dont need ending 2, except m2+ for skills

[jade latch]

I mean, I can just clear Guided Tour 2 with defeating Yi, then Raidian will promote to Elite 2, right?

Okay, thanks. Since yesterday, I was trying to get ending 2, turns out I don't need it to promote Raidian to Elite 2

[boreal steeple]

-# Learnt hardcore way

[jade latch]

HAHAHAHA

So, just clear Guided Tour 2 to promote Raidian to Elite 2

Correct?

[delicate scaffold]

which is the most sensible option?

[still breach]

hoshi alter s3 or haruka s2

[abstract mauve]

lemuen s3 or hoshi2 s3 depending on which you like more

[royal swan]

Lemuen s2/s3
Hoshi s3
SA s3
Haruka s2

Look at all of the mat costs for each of these and pick the one with the t5 material that u tend to lack

[pale tapir]

hoshialt/lemon s3 imo
haruka s2 isn't bad but dmg > healing

[delicate scaffold]

thanks a lot guys

[still breach]

but when the s2 going infinite mode, it goes crazy for the heal

[maiden prawn]

Guys is U-official in the standard gacha pool or.. i dunno i’m stupid help

[royal swan]

April fools free unit

[maiden prawn]

So can she still be obtainable on this years april fools or was it like a one time thing only that i missed?

[lone valley]

She can be obtained yes

[abstract mauve]

was there a free reward for CN april fools last year?

[nimble kite]

Don't think so. Except 1 Prime as usual.

[olive mulch]

is 16-16 possible without invis reveal like sash, ines, mantra, etc?

[nimble kite]

All April Fools will rerun, so you will have chances to get missing ops.

[nimble kite]

And what you can offer instead? You know you won't clear it with such attitude.

[olive mulch]

idk miner management

[boreal steeple]

Save miners alive or send them when you have enough dps placed. If miners are in healers range they heal

[abstract mauve]

i wouldnt say that's how you use miners effectively

[regal phoenix]

Oh cool, miners will atk stainless turret

[abstract mauve]

hmm good to know

[boreal steeple]

Positional play, phase 2 you just hold left side with miners

[regal phoenix]

Can I buff all my miner with global +50 atk spd n win stage using miner only

[boreal steeple]

Phase 2 those golems are problematic. Also cant outdps yurodstvo bcz of fear

[rain forge]

phase 2 yuro will annihilate all of them

[haughty holly]

Buff them more

[regal phoenix]

Game say miner is allied unit, aak skill say inject ally, skadi skill 1 says take dmg for ally, but all doesn't work

[rain forge]

also the cores of stupor will just shut them down entirely

[robust thistle]

most non controlled npc units are not actually coded as 'allies'

some controllable allied units are even coded as enemies so

[raven ermine]

Yeah pretty sure you can't apply any buffs to the miners
Which is why regen does not work either

[robust thistle]

rule of thumb is if you cant tap and see their stats, usually theyre not actually allied units

[ancient belfry]

Why cant I set the module? It goes back to Orig instead?

[frank talon]

You gotta equip it manually if he's already in the squad

[raven ermine]

When you set something to "default" it is not applied retroactively in your squad, just switch him out and put him back in

[ancient belfry]

oh it worked, i just removed him and put him back

thankss

[nimble kite]

It doesn't equip automatically on Squad menu. You have to do it manually.

[frank talon]

Btw is executor alters new mod worth it or nah, I already have his first one

[nimble kite]

You like S2?

[raven ermine]

Definitely not worth

[frank talon]

Only when I don't have any other options lol

[waxen flame]

no, 2nd mod is worse

[nimble kite]

Wanna make Exalter an "dodge tank"?

[frank talon]

I have ulpuanus lol I don't need that

[waxen flame]

instead of uh, increasing his regen??

[nimble kite]

Here's answer about Ymod.

[nimble kite]

Damage output.

[robust thistle]

his x mod isnt for the increased regen, its for the S3 damage ceiling

the +healing is just a nice bonus

[odd sky]

surely bellone will revive dodge tanking :clueless:

[robust thistle]

kid named bee unter

[frank talon]

Btw what hoeder skill should I put masteries on when I E2 him

[robust thistle]

is not E2ing hoe an option

[lone valley]

No

[odd sky]

can you afford m9 for IS5

[lone valley]

U either s1m3 for is5 (i also sometimesdraft for is6) or s3m3 for normal use (noone except nas uses him normally)

[robust thistle]

hoe either has no investment or high investment

[frank talon]

I'm willing to make that sacrifice

[odd sky]

he wants mod3 as well i believe

[robust thistle]

you want s1m3 mod3 minimum

[copper axle]

How likely are we to get a Mostima Alter

[frank talon]

We don't know

[robust thistle]

we dont work at HG

[frank talon]

None of us are John Hypergryph unfortunately

[olive mulch]

should i get ceobe module that increase the defense percentage? (i dont rly use her tho)

[nimble kite]

Neither we can datamine here, see Server Rules.

[copper axle]

Booooo

[robust thistle]

just get the bread one

[copper axle]

Well I'm just asking assumptions

[robust thistle]

non gameplay related goes to #arknights

[raven ermine]

Ceobe need modx3 when you use her
Granted that's not often

[regal phoenix]

If I play arknight full campaign but set rule once a unit is used for a stage it can never be used again whole run, would I have enuf units to finish whole campaign

[frank talon]

No

[regal phoenix]

How do u know

[spice nexus]

Can I manually destroy the Rock Walls?

[boreal steeple]

No. But if it resets each chapter and you can change the setups then sure

[robust thistle]

1 chapter has 15 stages minimum multiplied by 2 for CM, we have 17 chapters, you can do the math

[brisk ice]

hello! for the stages in chapter 10, do the standard environment and adverse environment versions have different drop tables?

[nimble kite]

No. Only Civs can do that.

[raven ermine]

I hope you're ready to solo clear every stages
Good luck with roberta and medics

[regal phoenix]

Oh, how many unit exist in arknight now? Less than 250?

[robust thistle]

less than 300

[frank talon]

There's 200 something something units and assuming you're not a giga whale that's been playing every day since day one with an absolute godhand with a full squad of 12 units and you're not allowed to reset every chapter no

[raven ermine]

You, uh, do realize that imply you need to solo everything right

[robust thistle]

and 15 is lowballing it, even we we have 250 ops, you have to literally solo every single stage with every single operator

[odd sky]

do operator tower instead

[regal phoenix]

But wiki say there is 389 operator in global

[regal phoenix]

What's that

[robust thistle]

do you have 389

[raven ermine]

Surely you can clear with only myrtle right :glueless:

[pale tapir]

myrtle solos 16-17

[frank talon]

Naaah wait for myrtle alter in 2037

[nimble kite]

In Myrtle we trust...

[boreal steeple]

Its possible if 2 star clears fr

[rain forge]

what’s 16-17 again

[waxen flame]

spuria soloes 16-17

[pale tapir]

the one where u wait 7 min and it clears itself

[slate ridge]

4-4 no op clear

[raven ermine]

One less problem to worry about, now about those 250 other ones

[regal phoenix]

Oh I have 346

[nimble kite]

Leveled enough?

[robust thistle]

you can try doing it then

I mean youre practically halfway there

[odd sky]

https://youtu.be/7qGWD9y6MnU?si=vSSZsR4iNNY-8g7v
an example

[rain forge]

solo 15-21 with hibiscus 🤫

[raven ermine]

Just do 1p relays and nicheknight like a normal player idk

[boreal steeple]

Its easier to do wis solo all story mode than doing other solo ops

[waxen flame]

15-21??

[regal phoenix]

I don't get it, is it just 1 op + other op

[pale tapir]

could arknights nuzlocke style and ban an op if they die in battle

[odd sky]

other ops only for 1 stage

[raven ermine]

Your usual meta team goes from 0-1 to ch16 no death

[robust thistle]

sounds like no hit challenge would be a lot more interesting than nuzlocke idk

[pale tapir]

lmao nvm then
just throwing out ideas

[raven ermine]

No hit relays

[waxen flame]

is bagpipe s2 viable for nuke with mantra

[slate ridge]

Sure

[robust thistle]

thats like calling kroos skill a nuke

mantra works with anyone that can use skill twice within 40s

[rain forge]

the run ends on ch 7

mortars

[robust thistle]

you can just retreat before you get hit

[raven ermine]

Mortars really aren't an issue

[waxen flame]

do i need bagpiper mod3

[robust thistle]

what does mod have to do with mantra

[rain forge]

i mean good luck ig

[waxen flame]

like increase starting sp

[robust thistle]

you can just wait like 5 more seconds

[pale tapir]

what about londinium artillery
does that still fire if no ops on field

[waxen flame]

eh..

[teal elk]

can bagpipe still kill dogs in 2026

[rain forge]

it stays charged iirc

[raven ermine]

You just deploy/undeploy fast enough

[waxen flame]

ccb4 dogs melt her

[robust thistle]

it stays charged, and its not like you can just pause retreat

[teal elk]

just keep her on the bench 😂 or dont use her

[robust thistle]

or get this, we have 12 slots, just use another op's skill

[waxen flame]

hm, i am using trag too so maybe i can use that + bagpiper = 3 skill activations

[robust thistle]

thats how every no hit relays go though, they retreat just when theyre about to get hit

[pale tapir]

do poison fields or the vampire goop count as hits

[waxen flame]

@robust thistle does skills like tex2 and yato that instantly activate count?

[median fable]

wtf am I reading

[robust thistle]

idk, I didnt test, disappointed by mantra

[odd sky]

i still don't understand what counts as s3 skill activation tbh
seems like only auto recovery works or smt

puzzle s1 doesn't work
but ascalon s1 works

[pale tapir]

does exialt s3 redeploying op with passive skill count as 2

[raven ermine]

Well cutter skills work, so off.rec is fine

[robust thistle]

offensive auto isnt fine then

[slate ridge]

#strategy message

[regal phoenix]

If I deploy nothing but medic can't I outheal their measly 700 dmg

[sand folio]

Is it remotely realistic as a challenge to only being allowed 1 op deployed at a time? Depending on the map ofc

[royal swan]

Those are called relays, there's a bunch on YouTube for various stages

[boreal steeple]

Retreat before they die

[robust thistle]

1p relay has existed since long ago

[hushed niche]

who should I e2 next between eyja alter, Mantra and typhon

[royal swan]

Some people even go a step ahead and do 1 tile relays as well (everything must he deployed on the same tile)

[raven ermine]

1 tile relays are not doable depending on the map

[median fable]

wait, on deploy skills don't trigger mantra s3?

[raven ermine]

1p relays tho, i'm pretty sure are fine wherever

[pale tapir]

even with wang?

[sand folio]

Oh damn, this sounds amazing

[median fable]

I was pretty sure they did

[raven ermine]

Kind of defeat the point, if wang is soloing the stage no ?

[pale tapir]

[boreal steeple]

Im sure it does

[pale tapir]

still curious about this

[boreal steeple]

It does since it activates skills, extra sp doesn't change anything

[autumn kettle]

Should I M3 Lemuen S2?

[pale tapir]

if you use it sure

[pale tapir]

wdym by extra sp?

[boreal steeple]

Exu2 S3 extra sp on deployment to op with the thing

[pale tapir]

op deployed has a passive skill tho it actives automatically

[vital kelp]

which chip are on ave mujika event since theres 2 event op

[boreal steeple]

Guard and spec

[pale tapir]

wiki should have event shop info

[raven ermine]

Guard and spec

[vital kelp]

so both?

[raven ermine]

Yep

[pale tapir]

because welfares were nyamu and umiri

[vital kelp]

kay thanks

prob too late to undo farming chips ig

[boreal steeple]

Its for the future dw

[raven ermine]

Eh, you'll use them elsewhere
A bit tight since you have to farm certs tho

[odd sky]

we should kill ken

[rain forge]

They do

I tested it with surfer s1

[median fable]

got confused for a second since Rain said only auto skills do and I got a "do I have dementia?" moment

[odd sky]

offensive auto doesn't work

[vital kelp]

just like 480 more this month or 1080 if i get really shitty luck(less than 9 from recruit this month)

[raven ermine]

You should be fine then
Especially with monthly

[median fable]

yeah, Ik. Or at least, only some of them do

[frank talon]

Toddofins "arrows" count as ammo right, I got her as a temporary recruit in IS once so I'm just curious

[raven ermine]

yes

[slate ridge]

Oh did i say only auto ?
I never went into that territory
I only played around skill cancels

[frank talon]

Nice ty

[fiery canopy]

could u add red arrows still can't see her

[frank talon]

What's the name of the aceship thing again I forgot, like, the updated one

[raven ermine]

I'm too lazy for that

[cursive maple]

did the red cert royal tokens come back in cn?

[median fable]

nevermind, I was blind

[raven ermine]

It's in pins

[waxen flame]

is naran still meta?

[raven ermine]

Never was, but she's good

[fiery canopy]

meta for the rock stage !

[waxen flame]

her downsides?

[cursive maple]

she doesnt do anything unique and better replacement exist

[raven ermine]

No utility, need some specific conditions to achieve optimal performance

Even then the "optimal performance" in question is nothing groundbreaking

[waxen flame]

basically, she is mid

[fiery canopy]

above average id say

[cursive maple]

id say better than mid

[median fable]

she's good

[cursive maple]

below meta tier

[median fable]

someone send the #help chart of "good vs bad"

[wooden timber]

i didn't know where to ask this so i assume this is the right place, but what units would mantra have in value over in my squad?

[robust thistle]

none

[raven ermine]

You can ditch myrtle/thorns if you're looking for a slot
Mod1 your degen

[median fable]

myrtle, because an extra dps is better than no dps

[thorny edge]

no tragussy this is saddening

[median fable]

jokes aside, she won't offer too much, you're stacked with good art dps and mantra isn't exceptional in any way, with s2 she's competing also with Logos for elem dmg

[cursive maple]

hey we will get him soon if yostar doesnt fuck up

[wooden timber]

i didn't read about tragodia so this is my fault completely

[raven ermine]

They never listen when we tell them to save up

[thorny edge]

six months until "no wangussy this is saddening"

[raven ermine]

[neon inlet]

do the tokens from the red cert shop reset or change?

[nimble kite]

They did it only once for whole time of game existence. Cannot tell when is next rotation tho.

[candid badger]

added/rotation ye

[neon inlet]

so it doesn't matter if I get them, right? I have like 12k and I buy the module data block every rotation

and everything already

[raven ermine]

If it's like the last time, you'll get a timer before they expire/rotate out

[nimble kite]

Within a month.

[raven ermine]

So you can always buy them then

[neon inlet]

oh I see

[gentle gust]

hows sash2 in laneholding

[thorny edge]

the damage isnt shocking but he's actually pretty tanky

[neon inlet]

isnt he a vanguard? or s3 good enough to have him stay?

[thorny edge]

his talent gives him decent defensive stats and hp regen

[neon inlet]

he blocks 2?

[regal phoenix]

Damn they have a cap for miners on field, I kept them all alive n game stop spawning them

[slim tusk]

you shouldn't lanehold with vg

[median fable]

I'd rather lanehold with sash2 than mountain 🤫

[thorny edge]

[slim tusk]

hey mountain is vg

[lone valley]

Id rather have a concrete block

[thorny edge]

i'd rather have u

[lone valley]

So is ela and exualt

[gentle gust]

is wang a vg

[lone valley]

you already have me, laqyboo

[neon inlet]

s3 damage or rotation not good enough to have him clearing trash in one lane?

[robust thistle]

hes a vg, hes not a dps

if youre using him and expecting damage, youre using him wrong

also 55/48 cycle, lol lmao

[neon inlet]

oof

[undone wren]

Is this logos module3 worth it? Also can I get data supplement instrument from somewhere else other than that game mode?

[robust thistle]

logos wants mod3 regardless

you get it from event shops too

[undone wren]

Ah dem guess I have to play the game mode. Hope its nothing crazy

[raven ermine]

SSS is very easy
Just think of it as doing the arknights dishes once a month

[rain forge]

you will get slaughtered if you don’t follow the gimmick

It’s easy if you do

[twin dawn]

if i have loads of ASPD buffs like in SSS, is S1 or S2 better 🤔 probably S1 for the auto activation?

[polar pier]

Matsukiri S2. Does the hp inc get removed on 1st retreat or 2nd retreat?

[polar pier]

Wait. Is this Matsukiri being retreated or the operator that got the buff being retreated?

[astral gazelle]

Do other doctors see you moving your operator on the base when you visit them?

[nimble kite]

None. S2 doesn't improve the SP Cost, but would be main skill pre-E2 to cast Disarm. The Auto-activation will be appreciated on her.

[cyan venture]

whats the best stage to farm during this event that isnt supplies

[raven ermine]

1-7, the usual

[nimble kite]

1-7

[sweet warren]

10-6

[lone valley]

Honestly? Neither
Degen's only bread and butter is s3
And even s3 is kinda ass now

[verbal tangle]

Is mountain still decent

[lone valley]

Hes fine for newbies ig
Kinda shit past that

[verbal tangle]

So is there like any op that is very good inside kernel

[lone valley]

No
Everyone is niche or bad
But some are decent

[verbal tangle]

I mean like, who's the best op to get inside kernel

[lone valley]

Suzu, phantom, ceobe, weedy, ifrit and so on are niche good
Silverash, saria are decent

[verbal tangle]

Aight ty

[lone valley]

Well theres also kalsit, mizuki, angelina

[sweet warren]

Who the hell shill phantom today

[lone valley]

Shill? Noone
Its why hes niche

[verbal tangle]

If I have haruka, is mon3tr still a must buy if she's on cert or no

[silver smelt]

Wtf is his niche even

[lone valley]

Go back to #strategy

[robust thistle]

shes never a must buy imo

[verbal tangle]

I don't have a good healer

[lone valley]

She kinda isnt
Not a bad op ofc but, shes still 2 years away so like

[robust thistle]

that doesnt really make mon3tr a must buy

[twin dawn]

i use it as an opportunity to do all the module unlock missions i havent done yet

[lone valley]

You have haruka
The best healer in the game

[normal timber]

guys where the priority pull list on pin ? i can't find it ?

[robust thistle]

considering healers are like one of the earlist ops to get optimized out

[median fable]

I consider Mon3tr more of a buffer than a healer on s2

[verbal tangle]

Ye I only got her recently, so my point is if I already have her, does that mean I shouldn't get mon3tr anymore

[robust thistle]

then you already have a good healer

[lone valley]

Not with certs no, shes 2 years away anyway

[verbal tangle]

She also have dmg on S3 (which is I'm a fan of)

[robust thistle]

do you really want to get mon3tr 2 years from now while you already have haruka

[verbal tangle]

They need to be 2+ years to go to cert?

[lone valley]

Yes?

[verbal tangle]

That's nice to know

[steep pivot]

is this a collab skin ?

[robust thistle]

no

[twin dawn]

🤔 any impactful modules that I haven't gotten yet?

[robust thistle]

lots

[lone valley]

Lol

[livid crest]

There's a disclaimer on the top of the operator's skin if it's a limited or not I think

[twin dawn]

which ones should I focus on?

[split sphinx]

Ange ros

[robust thistle]

send krooster, have you cleared IS

[raven ermine]

collab skins have a big X and crossover in the place of the skin line

[twin dawn]

ive only played IS6, none of the others and only up to difficulty 8

[robust thistle]

ange and ros IS mod

SA mod3 if you use him

[twin dawn]

📝

[twin dawn]

i dont have krooster 😅

[copper axle]

What are all the operators available in the credit shop

[raven ermine]

gavial, courier, idr if there are others

[woven fjord]

dur nar

[copper axle]

After?

[rain forge]

what do you mean you don’t have a krooster profile just go and make one

krooster (the operator) is also a welfare you can get her any time

[twin dawn]

havent made one

going to ages 💀 5 years of operators to add

[cursive maple]

...

[glossy schooner]

You don’t have to do it manually, just follow the instructions on the site to import your account’s Ops

[rain forge]

You don’t have to add operators manually

just import your Arknights account

[raven ermine]

Maybe they don't want to give their auth token which is valid
We don't really need their krooster anyway it doesn't matter

[woven fjord]

i dont believe theyve gotten a reset yet no

[lone valley]

You know they dont nas

[karmic urchin]

what is the little badges on the top left? is that ending I cleared?

[steep pivot]

Does most of the operator free from the side story any useful or strong ?

[cloud gulch]

They change color depending on the difficulty you cleared it too

[woven fjord]

yes, they change depending on diff with higher ones being brighter. max badge change is at d12

[split sphinx]

the ones you want can be counted on one hand

[cloud gulch]

Kroos alter, Gladiia, Crownslayer with module (All I can think of)

[twin dawn]

oh, maybe i'll try that

[raven ermine]

For a new player, feel free to ignore everyone but tequila/krooster
Grab bryophita for base too

[lone valley]

Sorry sir
Gladia and crownslayer are doodoo

[cursive maple]

my memory is failing me, why would i ask if i knew 🥹

[honest talon]

Should I E2 her immediately?

[cursive maple]

e140 works

[raven ermine]

no, e1 lv1 sl7 is plenty

[cloud gulch]

I'm not a "sir"

[raven ermine]

Sorry maam
Gladia and crownslayer are doodoo

[split sphinx]

what if they not a maam either 🥀

[silver smelt]

crownslayer is like middish

[cursive maple]

🍿

with mod she is useable atleast

[raven ermine]

Considering the investment needed to make her middish, i would definitely make sure the one asking is not a newbie

[past wagon]

any other side story base recommendations other than byro and ceylon?

[cloud gulch]

Btw any chapter 16 stages worth farming?

[raven ermine]

Nope, i don't think anyone else is relevant, i might be forgetting someone but idt so

[thick hazel]

Hii is there a guide for purchase, gold, and green cert? Can't seem to find it in the pin. Tyy

[lone valley]

Yeah, cuz im supposed to know that from stars above. Not the point

[raven ermine]

Not really, just consider chapter releases as dead weeks

[vague wasp]

everyone in internet are e-girl sir

[raven ermine]

Best to farm certs/chips/1-7 during those

[cloud gulch]

You're not but I've corrected you, move on?

[lone valley]

So youre an e-girl?! :yay:

[vague wasp]

[nimble kite]

Gold: keep 180/258 for useful Shoperator/Full Pull Ticket buyout.

Green: buy out whole Phase 1, on Phase 2 buy all Pull Tickets and Vouchers. If you have extra to spare, buy mats you urgently need and hardly to find elsewhere/wait for events to get them.

[silver smelt]

u guys suck

[lone valley]

And youre toxic
Who is worse

[silver smelt]

i tabbed in and actively frowned like

[honest talon]

Am I doing something wrong? My standard team revolves around monst3r(cause why not)

[past wagon]

so long as we're not cringe. :v

[thick hazel]

Ah okay. How much cert minimum for green to be worth it?

[nimble kite]

2390 minimum both for Phase 1 and 2 Tickets on Phase 2.

[cloud gulch]

Yes, go raise your DPS

[pearl zinc]

Buy everything on phase 1
And get tickets and recruitment from phase 2

[raven ermine]

focus on sash instead
Use your lappland, get kroos alter and tequila from side stories, where is your second newbie voucher ?

[nimble kite]

Add 15x20 for Vouchers.

[ember mirage]

Hey guys, been back and forth from this game a few times and looking to get back into it, anyone know of a genuinely accurate tier list website or some source that I can use to judge where my account is sitting and where to put my resources

[thick hazel]

Right tysm!

[silver smelt]

pins -> roadless camelot

[honest talon]

Wdym?

[raven ermine]

Which part ?

[nimble kite]

Rule #1: tierlists in AK are misleading and shouldn't be followed by any means.

[honest talon]

Voucher

[ember mirage]

Yeah i never use them as complete go to for any gacha games but I just want a rough idea of what units to focus on

[raven ermine]

Newbies have access to 2 tickets allowing you to select a 5* for free at account creation
I assumed you picked lappland with one, correct me if that's wrong, what did you use the second one on ?

[ember mirage]

Because I have a bunch of 6 stars sitting at level 1

[split sphinx]

better just ask here

[proven kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969192347965456414/1483420294650531911/Your_paragraph_text_23.png?ex=69ba864e&is=69b934ce&hm=e3103a11c75362619751e6787b8bc046aeee45b8cc1e2f0573bf21759996d195&animated=true

[nimble kite]

You can show your stuff indeed and we will show you which one worth any attention.

[frosty mason]

is ed3 the hardest ending of is4?

[silver smelt]

ed5

[somber gulch]

ummm what is this red line on 16-13?

[frosty mason]

ed5?

[silver smelt]

ed5 is the hardest post dlc2
currently the hardest imo is ed2a

[nimble kite]

Somewhat.

[proven kelp]

Secret stage, you need to complete the whole chapter to unlock it

[raven ermine]

Secret stage/ending
You need to complete the chapter with all 4 prerequisites to have access to it

[nimble kite]

IS4.
The Sami one.

[glossy schooner]

Secret stages like chapter 8

[honest talon]

Oh yeah that one. Yeah I did use it to get lappland. Tho I didn't know there was a second ticket

[silver smelt]

obruh

[frosty mason]

im confused now

[ember mirage]

It would be too many screenshots to post. Anyone know of a good site I can use to bundle them because Imgur won't work for me

[raven ermine]

Check your depot, in the consumable tab then

[glossy schooner]

Krooster

[somber gulch]

oh I thought I would need to do stuffs to unlock it like in chapter 8

[nimble kite]

He misread and talked about Sui IS6 whole time.

[ember mirage]

thanks

[silver smelt]

is4 ed3 is the beach ball? that one then

[frosty mason]

cresson

[glossy schooner]

A site im sure you’ve seen plenty of in this server when talking about what ops to use/level

[nimble kite]

Yes, the Black Hole one.

[silver smelt]

its 11pm

[ancient current]

the beach ball yes

[honest talon]

Found it. Which operator should I get?

[frosty mason]

is there a guide for ed3?

[proven kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969192347965456414/1483420294650531911/Your_paragraph_text_23.png?ex=69ba864e&is=69b934ce&hm=e3103a11c75362619751e6787b8bc046aeee45b8cc1e2f0573bf21759996d195&animated=true

[raven ermine]

you can check pins for voucher recommendation, idr the pool

[nimble kite]

Bring burst DPS, like Degen S3, to make the damage at the small window and kill it ASAP.

Any Immortalities or jebaters would be appreciated too, since he hits like a truck.

[frosty mason]

what other options do i have, i dont have degen
mantra, lemuen work?

[raven ermine]

Lemuen works fine

[woven fjord]

lemuen needs exu

[formal shadow]

mantra?

[woven fjord]

if no exu you need shit ton of buffers. no mantra doesnt work

[frosty mason]

this is d3, so it might work?

[nimble kite]

With S3 maybe, but you need to shoot the thing fast. Or bullet blast will go to nowhere.

[glossy schooner]

I mean, I don’t have Exu and my Lem does plenty of damage(note, I don’t know what Exu does for Lemuen)

[abstract mauve]

they look cute together

[woven fjord]

lemuen should be fine then. im assuming ur below d15 ye?

[glossy schooner]

I don’t play IS I was just saying Lemuen works just fine without exu.
again, don’t know what Exu does for Lemuen

[formal shadow]

the initial asker said it's diff3

[frosty mason]

she has atk buff for laterano

[abstract mauve]

cute together

[raven ermine]

The context is IS4ed3

[woven fjord]

oh wait ur not original commenter oops

[abstract mauve]

able to mark for her across the map as well

[nimble kite]

But mostly...
Cute together.

[frosty mason]

that too...marking i mean

[glossy schooner]

…I’m just gonna say I understand so you don’t have to explain it in case it’s a lot to explain

[dense fulcrum]

Y'all what's a cornerstone of lane holding? I've seen peeps mention it. Now I'm curious. Can sakiko be considered a corner stone?

[eager totem]

why do i always see exu s2 pairing with myrtle

[raven ermine]

Integrated strategies 4 ending 3
It's a bit of a specific context, the window to deal damage is quite short

[woven fjord]

anyway it shouldnt matter then yea. just keep in mind that the ed3 boss only begins marking after you reveal him for the first time.

[abstract mauve]

good question

poor players cant afford sailleach or ines

[sleek finch]

it is a pairing known as "using normal operator" where you place second operator after the first operator

[ember mirage]

https://krooster.com/u/wise-brown-exusiai-71cb
If anyone could spare some time to point out anything that I should level and why it would be much appreciated

[frosty mason]

im just gonna go in blind, nothing much to gather now

[worn drift]

for silverash alter banner, is it 200 or 300 to get spark?

[spare jetty]

absolute poverty

[raven ermine]

Link does not work for me

[spare jetty]

reconsider your decision

[nimble kite]

She can putted and she will kill everyone without your proper attention.

Unfortunately, she just a DPS, which may be even better than normal lanehold.

[glossy schooner]

Gotta post the link to your collection not your account lookup

[tiny abyss]

It's u/

[dense fulcrum]

So... What's a cornerstone?

[worn drift]

the banner good no?

[nimble kite]

I... don't know.

[spare jetty]

good but sparking is bad

[worn drift]

I plan to get W also

[raven ermine]

Just a random term being thrown around with no real implication on gameplay
Ignore it, putting operators in tight boxes is not a good way to resume what they should do/be used for

[nimble kite]

Which one?

[ember mirage]

https://www.krooster.com/u/seiten

[worn drift]

wisadell 2

[nimble kite]

There's new cockroach alter already?!!!

[glossy schooner]

Chen the worst E2 art and golden glow are pretty good from what I know

[worn drift]

lol meant w2/ wisadell

[umbral ermine]

Anyone has a hoshiguma, I need her to finish 16-12, thanks

[lone valley]

You know outdated stuff then

[proven kelp]

Corner stone is a old term that was used by CN to refer to units that have consistent dmg, good block count and self healing

Back in the days, it specifically refers to Thorns, Mountain and Mudrock

It's an outdated term that nobody really cares about

[nimble kite]

Sparking is bad, but from every old Limited, will be perfect one to spark.

[lost isle]

Just got horn, between s2 or s3 which is the better skill?

[raven ermine]

First of all, fix your base/baseslaves #bot-spam /base and /baseskills
sl7 the operators you use often
e2 silverash, s3m3 mod3 him
unlock IS mod3 for kaltsit
e2 chen alter, e2 mantra
E2 proviso for base

[nimble kite]

Map and Enemy dependant question. It may vary from case to case.

[lost isle]

I see

[spare jetty]

if ur lmd is a real problem i recommend building your baseslaves
else i dont see any

[worn drift]

should I save my pulls instead of sparking then?

[eager totem]

is guardmiya decent at least

[nimble kite]

Yep, because you can get Wang later on.

[raven ermine]

She's better at north

[umbral ermine]

The abnormal manglerbeast, too hard to defend without hoshi

[glossy schooner]

Pretty Mid

[ember mirage]

what are these alters i keep hearing about, they didn't exist last time I played properly and how do you get them

[glossy schooner]

Alters are same character, but as a new op, the soon to release Silverash alter is a vanguard

Meanwhile the original Silverash is a Guard

[crimson harbor]

Am I stupid or I cant block spy on 12-19?

[formal shadow]

check all the enemy descriptions

[nimble kite]

You are stupid. Read Enemy Info.

[ember mirage]

do you pull for them or do you unlock them through gameplay

[glossy schooner]

Pulls

[raven ermine]

They are mostly gacha operators, some are given as welfares tho

[glossy schooner]

Hibiscus went from a medic to an Incantation medic
Kroos just became a better marksman
Chen went from a guard to a sharpshooter

[crimson harbor]

Okay thank, some mf needed to be blocked

[frank wing]

they basically just act as a different operator, although they do share the same trust level as the original

[formal shadow]

killed*

[tiny abyss]

Blocked works

[glossy schooner]

Also wdym you don’t know what they are you have Ch’en the Holungday

[raven ermine]

We used to not be able to use the OG/alter at the same time, but they changed that

Meaning we're 2/3 anniversaries away from an entire chen team

[ember mirage]

Yeah that's why I was confused when someone said level my Chen Alter, I didn't know she was one because I never saw anyone refer to her as an alter when I pulled her

[spare jetty]

3 chens

[raven ermine]

Might be because you don't know about the og chen, which is a guard
Meanwhile we got chen's 2nd alter, which is also a guard

[spare jetty]

guard but better

[ember mirage]

I knew about the old Chen just never knew the different versions were called 'Alters' I thought the alters everyone was on about was something completely different, thanks for clearing it up

[nimble kite]

Killed. In this map, both of them love to stay on banned tiles. So you have one option left.

[glossy schooner]

Fair enough, but now you know!
Most times, if an Op is an Alter their name will be the normal but a “The” title

Hoshiguma The Breacher
Hibiscus The Purifier
Silverash The Reign Frost
Eyjafjalla The Hvit Aska

[nimble kite]

Wisadel

[raven ermine]

Tragodia

[glossy schooner]

Minus those two

[nimble kite]

Vina Victoria

[glossy schooner]

And I Did say Most Times

[nimble kite]

Do we care

[glossy schooner]

Doesnt really matter so

[tiny abyss]

Higuys is Vina s3 atk scale

[eager totem]

anyone got is6 ed4 guide

[crimson harbor]

Thank rude yet helpful guy

[nimble kite]

My pleasure homie

[raven ermine]

Just check the tags

[lone valley]

Its just atk% buff

[eager totem]

??? what the fuck does he target??

closest??

[spare jetty]

lowest def

clearly u didn't read the tips at the beginning of the stage

[nimble kite]

Lowest DEF value

[static glade]

What's the best advice to play safe in sui's garden without going into a deadly battle and ending the run

[eager totem]

is ulpi good in is6

[eager totem]

didnt have enough time

[raven ermine]

No, ulpi isn't great in IS overall, outside of initial sp relics/s3 interaction

[spare jetty]

u can pause

[eager totem]

yeh i wasnt paying attention

[nimble kite]

Learn the maps.

[eager totem]

didnt konw theres more than one variant for the same layout as well

[static glade]

Ty

[raven ermine]

Trial and error will lead you to knowing what to expect from certain floors/encounters, and draft around it
Sometimes a certain stage with a bad draft is just game over

[balmy panther]

play low difficulty?

[nimble kite]

What encounters do, which one to fight, which one to avoid.

[static glade]

Struggling because I keep picking options that instant end

[balmy panther]

always skip the encounter with the hot lady

[raven ermine]

If you really want to make sure beforehand you can check tomimi.dev for stage layout, but you'll get it on your own eventually
Just learn from your mistakes

[nimble kite]

Pussy... Just have better ops to clear.

[rocky pilot]

[nimble kite]

This one soloed by Wis+medic.

[robust thistle]

its called playing a roguelike and learning the map, youre expected to fail

the actual good advice is if you see a node you havent seen before, just do it

[gentle dove]

Just keep going, there's newbies who can clear is6. It isn't impossible and actually quite fun imo

[static glade]

Ah ok

[rocky pilot]

Is expected

I lost my first is6 run on a extremely fast time because of a fatass fish

[eager totem]

does this mean only one op can fight the boss ?.?

[past wagon]

qn: to recruit elemental tag (robot), should I be setting minimum 1 hour timer, or 3 hour 50?

[robust thistle]

theres multiple nodes with that option

[spare jetty]

no

[hexed adder]

U can send bunch of it to doubt

[dense fulcrum]

So good heal good dmg good block equals cornerstone? Thanks

[robust thistle]

that scout node is just for getting the ending

[rocky pilot]

I say best not going for 1 hour to ensure the best chance of not getting the tag crossed out

[raven ermine]

3:50, that's less chances for the tag to drop

[eager totem]

like which ones?
so like i have to balance out my ops between f5 and f6 boss?

[balmy panther]

just get the "reveal all turmoil nodes" in floor 7 + the relic from shop for insta 3 candles + save the f5 candles
boom
10 op team for ed4

[rocky pilot]

Happened to me once on robot tag
Don't do that

[robust thistle]

doubt node in bosky

[raven ermine]

And it will happen again, even with 3:50, robot tags drop often

[past wagon]

rng be rng, just can't remember if minimum timer or maximum timer was best for 1*

[robust thistle]

neither

its 3.50

[past wagon]

I meant maximum timer while still technically allowing 1*. 😛

[raven ermine]

minimum is if you're going tagless for some reason, but you lose out on a lot of gold certs
maximum is 3:50 if you have a robot/elem/compatible tag

[dawn canopy]

Are there any operators that worth invest in to boost sakiko's strengh ?

[robust thistle]

shes fine alone

[eager totem]

are any of these recommended for the f6 boss

[woven fjord]

saki, exu, raidian, m3

[balmy panther]

matterhorn where

radian unironically hard carrying ed4

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure we have 2 f6 boss, which one

[eager totem]

what do i have left for f5 boss

[woven fjord]

ur supposed to send them out on the f6 bosky, just scout m3 regularly

[balmy panther]

thats ed4

[eager totem]

oh

so i wait until f6 then send them out

[spare token]

dumb question but how do i get into my inv again

[robust thistle]

Depot

[true summit]

I have 278 ori rock how much red rock can i have ?

[robust thistle]

Thats like 1 pull and a half

[true summit]

I mean i have 278 the rock that process in factory

[robust thistle]

Oh no thats 2 pulls

[hexed adder]

2 pulls but yea, not much

[bold mist]

Who's the discounted operator during SA alter?

[robust thistle]

Yes I read what you said

[balmy panther]

you need to send 1 at least to unlock ed4 tho

[true summit]

Wait what only 2 pull ?

[robust thistle]

Yeah?

[true summit]

Is something wrong

[robust thistle]

No

1 pull is 120 rocks so

[true summit]

Maybe its name is originum shard sr

[robust thistle]

Idk, you said orirock

[true summit]

Sr so how much again ?

[robust thistle]

If you dont know what its called, how should we know

[urban sleet]

W, Rosmontis, Skadi Alter, Nearl Alter

[robust thistle]

Read above

[bold mist]

Ah, nice, im not going for 200, gonna wait for spalter

[true summit]

I mean the one that go through process in factory that come from rock from 1-7

[urban sleet]

Thats originium shard

[true summit]

Ye

[robust thistle]

Cant you just look at your own depot and look at its name

[raven ermine]

Maybe don't farm orundum if you have no clue about the math behind it

[urban sleet]

Not rock smh

[true summit]

So if i got 278 ho many pull can i get ?

[raven ermine]

anyway it's 60 shards per pull

[rocky pilot]

More than 300 at that point

Wait no is something else hold on let me do the math

[robust thistle]

278 shards is 4 pulls

[urban sleet]

Just 278/60

[rocky pilot]

Oh right

[true summit]

4.63333

[severe crypt]

En cant calculator

[rocky pilot]

I forgot how to do math damn I gotta stop using tomimi

[true summit]

Ok ty guys

[bold mist]

After SA alter, we'll be getting a rerun event or nasti banner?

[robust thistle]

We dont know

No one here works at HG

[urban sleet]

Just check cn schedule, en schedule can vary by 1-2 events here and there, plan accordingly

[robust thistle]

Or yostar for that matter

[bold mist]

I thought global is just 6 months behind cn

[neon siren]

Is og exusiai worth building if you don't have her alter but have lemuen?

[severe crypt]

Yes but that doesn’t mean we have the exact same schedule

[urban sleet]

.

[bold mist]

Thanks

[robust thistle]

Approximate, still doesnt determine schedule

[urban sleet]

E2ing for base are we

[bold mist]

Ah, I see, my mistake

[neon siren]

[raven ermine]

Might as well e2 any other 40% instead of exu's 35% atp

[neon siren]

My thinking was that she might me useful for me in stages as well, so she does two jobs at the same time or sm

[urban sleet]

Damn its 35%

[rocky pilot]

Value immediately lost

[urban sleet]

Thats the part where you stop thinking why do you think we dont recommend og exusiai even to newbies

[raven ermine]

Exu won't do anything for you
Ig if you can find an enemy with big hp pool and 0 defense (in the literal sense), sure, but you can do the same with other units

[neon siren]

Yea good point, guess my lmd is better to hoard for the next limited hmmm

[neon siren]

Ig archetto does a better job then her or sm

[neon siren]

Welp, since exu is ass, time go check out more base combos

[raven ermine]

Well at the very least archetto would be used in IS

[neon siren]

Other Than radian is anyone here worth building at all?

[eager totem]

yeh i didnt make out the f5 boss and it wasnt even close

[jade mantle]

i dont have any protector defender e2, but i do have an e2 ticket from some event (stuck on 16-12)

can Bison, croissant or heavyrain fill in for cuora? which?

[urban sleet]

Maybe mostima for super slow shenanigans but otherwise no

[eager totem]

i think i really needed a vanguard

[neon siren]

Why not just use coura?

[raven ermine]

Not really
Mostima would be the closest, but she's extremely niche

[jade mantle]

i dont have the resources to get her to e2 lvl 7, i have a 5 star e2 ticket

[urban sleet]

E1 max cuora also works, give her another medic or two

[neon siren]

Oh

[jade mantle]

see thats actually why i didnt build her, all the low end strats kept her at e1 lv 60 lol

[neon siren]

Hmm.
Better to hold of for now

[neon siren]

In all honesty, it's a 4 star, just wait and build her.

The e2 ticket would be better off used on someone else like matsukiri or grace bearer sm

[jade mantle]

i can't believe im being let down by hoshialter and gummy

[urban sleet]

Hoshialter can do it

[neon siren]

So you have hoshi alter but want to build a defender?

I'm stumped

[jade mantle]

16-12 specifically doesnt seem to work with her

[urban sleet]

Give her more medics

[rocky pilot]

Hoshialt hospital

[neon siren]

Do you use support units?

[urban sleet]

Or borrow mon3tr with s2

[jade mantle]

assume i have every op unit after first Vina victoria event

[neon siren]

Do you use support units??

[jade mantle]

OH for cuora, i forgot i can 4 star supports

[raven ermine]

Just make the bear walk back and forth with ranged units
Either setup better for your defender, or skip 1st phase entirely

[neon siren]

Do you have wisadel?

[raven ermine]

Or, idk borrow a nian or smth

[urban sleet]

Does that mean you have tragodia

Raised? As in breakpoints reached?

[jade mantle]

i can't get anything to stay alive long enough to get it going, im just gonna follow a guide now, they asked for protector defender

[gentle dove]

Crazy

[raven ermine]

Or don't listen to anything i say that works too

[neon siren]

@jade mantle

[jade mantle]

i can use nian yea, she's 6 star defender

[balmy panther]

just borrow a nian

[jade mantle]

actually all my high cost operators might be working against me lol

[neon siren]

Just watch it

[urban sleet]

Can you also answer this

[jade mantle]

lol ill use nian, i dont have her, didnt realize she was protector defennder

[balmy panther]

ppl really will borrow a cuora instead of a nian only cuz kyo used cuora in the guide

[jade mantle]

because i have no name recognition, cuora comes up way more often, and nian is only ever usually talked about as a mid defender

[raven ermine]

Nian tanked like 15 attacks from the bear before needing a medic
Maybe more idk

[neon siren]

Dude, watch the damn vid, bear is very easy since u have such good operators

[urban sleet]

Kay no trag strat alternative for you

[neon siren]

That's crazy good 💀

[hexed adder]

that means they have haruka, can be paired with a lot units

[raven ermine]

Well, she's crazy tanky

[balmy panther]

shining >>> for bear

[balmy panther]

well
what do you think happens when you have 4.5k hp, 3 shields on deploy, passive +21% defense, another +20% on block, the highest base defense in the game, and then a +120% defense skill

[neon siren]

Hmmm

[neon siren]

-# nods on approval and awe whilst not having her in my roster

[slender temple]

Is caper good for IS

[woven fjord]

no

[fiery canopy]

what happens if u have a 13k hp op with 0 defense

[balmy panther]

you take 5k damage each time

[raven ermine]

They get mauled, bye bye ulpi

[fiery canopy]

yay

[balmy panther]

cuz 1.3k atk x double hit x 200% dmg taken

meanwhile a good protector will take minimum damage (and by good I mean nian, hoshi and cuora)

[chrome prawn]

Is there a way to get more gold ingots for my trading post other than the factory?

[raven ermine]

credit store has some occasionally
i wouldn't rely on that

[winter crystal]

Yes daily credit store

[chrome prawn]

It doesnt have that rn

[raven ermine]

Which is why you don't rely on it

[winter crystal]

Refreshes daily with a random assortment of goods it is what it is

You can use your drones in your base to maybe get a handful if you haven’t already

[chrome prawn]

Hmm i think i need a better worker

[waxen flame]

wait is this refering to the monthly card?

[rocky pilot]

Yup, can confirm since is also happening to me as well

[waxen flame]

oh I see, time to make that go away

[subtle dawn]

What is the third easiest anilhation stage?

[jade mantle]

damn, i only know the 2nd and 4th easiest

[green anvil]

i mean chernobog is easy?

[subtle dawn]

What's the 4th easiest? And also pls tell me that saltfin graveyard is the hardest cuz I beat that one by a hair

[subtle dawn]

Yeah I beat that one and also the lungmen outskirts one I think

[waxen flame]

its pretty easy

[green anvil]

then do lungmen downtown

[subtle dawn]

I can't beat all the flying enemies they too tanky 😔 had 6 leaks last time I attempted it

[rocky pilot]

Saltfin Graveyard is very easy honestly

[rocky pilot]

You can always borrow

[subtle dawn]

I'm scared for the other anilhation stages now

[waxen flame]

how many annis are there in total? 34?

[rocky pilot]

I think there's a guide with narantuya if you're interested

[left tulip]

I am?👀

[subtle dawn]

Who would you recommend I borrow? I borrowed wisadel last time but she doesn't rlly go for the flying enemies unless you use her skill

[rain forge]

Saltfin graveyard is like piss easy

just down the enemies in the salt and 75% of the mobs vanish

[green anvil]

just borrow wisadel and easy win XD

[subtle dawn]

How is saltfin graveyard easy when theres enemies that be one shotting ur defenders 😭

[rocky pilot]

Just wait here... I'll just say yes for you for your sake

https://youtu.be/gK242O80ebY?si=JArgqFpMRif1-TAq

[rain forge]

bait with a frd

[drifting scroll]

Were I to start now, what will I have missed permanently?

[green anvil]

i mean coura or beagle can tank the ememies easy?

[rain forge]

something something the best time to start was 5 years ago the second best time is in 4 months the third best time is today

[subtle dawn]

At e1 lvl 30? They were one shotting spot

[rocky pilot]

Oh ma gawh
https://youtu.be/1pTeDWYln-w?si=Y0R_d9Z3UKEBgY58

[rain forge]

it’s an e1 level 30 spot what do you expect

[drifting scroll]

What is happening in 4 months? Anni, I assume?