help

[heady ruin]

at least she's a 4 star so raising her won't affect much in resources

how lemuen being able to hit someone specific across the map a bad thing? 💀

[median fable]

it's just not relevant

[heady ruin]

forgive me for wanting to do dmg I guess? 😭

[median fable]

it's not more dmg though

[light latch]

lemon's atk range is silly big, she doesn't really need help procing her wanted status most of the time

and uh well exusiai alter exists if u want to cover both halves of the map i guess

[hidden nacelle]

lemuen has mega range already
using another slot for the buff isn't huge

more range ≠ more damage
at most it's funny to play with in IS but the wanted extend is exu2 anyways and they fie

[pale tapir]

just use exialt for marking

[heady ruin]

depends on the map, I still remember that one dreadful spot in the masses travels spot but yeah

[slate ridge]

Sometimes i need her S3 to hit enemies to kill them instead of separating shots on whats already killed by Exe2 and wasting the ammo

[plain hemlock]

her huge range is not that relevant since you don't always want her targeting the entire map and using S3 on mobs. That said, Exec alter is hardly the best targeter for her. It's just a nice little trick, won't affect building priorities

[heady ruin]

I use blender for making when I need it cuz hes not gonna kill a lot and he survives enough to kill shit.
but yeah yall right

[median fable]

it's just that in the context "should I raise Executor alter" the fact that he helps with Lemuen's marking has 0 relevance

[heady ruin]

fair

[polar hollow]

are there any stages you're supposed to farm on chapter 16?

[heady ruin]

#event-info

[median fable]

#event-info has a list

[robust thistle]

Youre not supposed to farm anything

You can just do other stages and still clear the shoo

[pale tapir]

the shoo

[heady ruin]

you are still farming something

[robust thistle]

I didnt say you shouldnt farm so

[heady ruin]

unless you haven't cleared story yet

[plain hemlock]

you are actually supposed to farm anything (you want)

[heady ruin]

except for side content

[pale tapir]

well farming in this context means repeatedly clearing the same stage for resources

[heady ruin]

tbh if you cleared all story what else you gonna do

[plain hemlock]

1-7 and red cert stage are still there

[median fable]

and chip stages if needed

[winter crystal]

Using exu2 to buff range will also buff damage by 26% if you have her 5 pot

[hidden nacelle]

farm

[light latch]

dmg is not the same as atk

[silver hull]

How long do you think it would take a new player to reach the point where they can afford to Lv 90 their fav 6*?
A year of constant playing?

[light latch]

3 weeks assuming they already own the op

[hidden nacelle]

like $30

[robust thistle]

You can do it in like 3 days if you know what youre doing

[winter crystal]

Yeah mb 26% buff tho on an op that has a massive base attack stat is still nice

[hidden nacelle]

10h/day wisadel abuse in IS

[plain hemlock]

much less. There are a lot of one-time rewards in the game for a new player

[coarse notch]

its actually less than 26%, its closer to a 22% buff to her damage i think

[light latch]

oh right borrowing units for IS to do the squads huh, i change my mind then, a few days

[hidden nacelle]

pot 5 they said

[robust thistle]

Its actually RA, not IS

[winter crystal]

Oh how come?

[hidden nacelle]

well RA too

[plain hemlock]

both are good

[coarse notch]

i calculated it with the 26%, because lemuen t2 has an innate +18% to her atk

[winter crystal]

Ahh

[hidden nacelle]

time to pull out yii arknights math video

[light latch]

if you're using lemon s2 the dmg gain is even lower

[coarse notch]

each s3 hit should go from 7545.5 to 9208.1 if my math is right

[pale tapir]

is exialt pot5 worth 8 royal tokens

[cunning niche]

The LMD/EXP ramp as you get closer to E2 Lv90 is the part that hurts the most

[light latch]

you have a pot 4 exialt?

[hidden nacelle]

ela pot 3 shill

[pale tapir]

pot 3
I don't have ela

[winter crystal]

I used 4 to get her max pot

[coarse notch]

gg account bricked

[median fable]

yk the good pot for Exu2 is pot3?

[robust thistle]

The atk buff is p3

[coarse notch]

any chance you'll be going for p6 yatoalt if she reruns

[median fable]

pot5 was more aoe dmg

[turbid ocean]

Exu2 best pot is P3

The rest trickle down

[pale tapir]

idk I did like 320 pulls on that banner and that's what I ended up with
no, pot2 yatoalt probably
I will have nothing after ch3ngus banner

[coarse notch]

and if reagan taught us anything trickle down is fake

[turbid ocean]

P3 is like 10K
P4 5K
P5 2K

P6 arguably matters more but 💀

[pale tapir]

ah so not worth then

[winter crystal]

Pot 6 vindication

[tacit anvil]

Any suggestions who to use this on?

[median fable]

almost had to bring Texas because pot3 Exu2 wasn't enough 🥹

[light latch]

proviso

[median fable]

I'd e2 proviso normally atp

[light latch]

oh wait your proviso is already leveled

[median fable]

send your krooster link pls

[robust thistle]

Proviso for max efficiency
Otherwise I'd go like teq/lapp/spec/mutsumi

[light latch]

uh well you've made things slightly difficult

[coarse notch]

id do surfer tbh even tho you have ines
the other options are kinda 🚮
or just hold onto it for now

[light latch]

for anyone who also wants to answer proviso, his proviso is e1 50

[heady ruin]

does he have tequila???

[winter crystal]

Could use it on band members depending on his roster and if he can easily E2 provi soon

[cunning niche]

Texas has strong long-term value, have been picking her especially often in Sui's Garden runs.

[coarse notch]

the fuck

[robust thistle]

They can just get him, hes literallly free

[light latch]

...no?

[winter crystal]

Doesn’t matter he’s free

[light latch]

the heck are you using texas for

[heady ruin]

i forgot

[median fable]

Texas long term value is being a max pot dp simulator lol

[coarse notch]

bro hopped in to give the most diabolical advice

[pale tapir]

texas has the opposite of long term value in that she had basically no value to begin with

[robust thistle]

"Texas has long term value" when its recommended to not complete the pinboard mission for texas

[winter crystal]

Have you tried picking other ops on those runs 😭

[cunning niche]

DP output in IS6 runs, Lungmen counts for Yan check in Doubt.

[silver smelt]

Just use an agent?

[robust thistle]

Surfer

[median fable]

you're trolling, there is no other way

[heady ruin]

I think thats more related to the fact you lose 252?

[winter crystal]

You can start with bean stalk and go from there….

[cunning niche]

I'm not pushing the ceiling of IS6 much, at the same time

[robust thistle]

So why are you bringing IS6

[median fable]

you're making your situation worse mate

[heady ruin]

well at least having one outpost be underleved (which I bricked my acc but idc)

[silver smelt]

You dont have to be pushing the ceiling to know that texas isnt a very good use of a vg voucher and hope

[cunning niche]

Alright

[robust thistle]

So shes replacable in her supposed use case

[pale tapir]

you don't lose 252 you just lose production output
ie texas is worth less than a fac level

[light latch]

texas does not count as a yan op last i checked, unless my memory is that poor

[heady ruin]

Beanstalk...for dp generation????

[coarse notch]

if you're gonna be drafting a vg specifically to fulfill yan wanqing is literally right there

[tacit anvil]

I have tequila maxed already

[winter crystal]

Fang Texas for IS6?????

[pale tapir]

what else she gonna do? play crabs?

[light latch]

she's not even a lungmen op, she's a siracusa op

[median fable]

she does but still, no one would draft her anyway

[plain hemlock]

isn't texas a yan op? she's from penguin logistics

[light latch]

she does?

[heady ruin]

then I guess you should for the japanese dog I cannot pronounce his name but hes a cool vanguard

[median fable]

penguin logistic operators have yan status in is6

[plain hemlock]

PL main HQ is situated in Yan so yeah

[light latch]

wild, TIL

[robust thistle]

Texas is PL, PL is in lungmen, lungmen is yan

[heady ruin]

that is so random LOL

[pale tapir]

yan is a nation

[light latch]

does this mean exusialt counts as a yan op

[median fable]

it isn't, it kinda make sense geographically

[winter crystal]

Are we witnessing actually big brain Strats? (no)

[plain hemlock]

all PL and their alters count

[median fable]

yeah, but chalter doesn't for example

[silver smelt]

yes but also blaze alt doesnt count because hehe funny bug

[heady ruin]

I wouldn't say Texas is bad by any means though, module is p good and the aoe stun has some value, DP gen is not really that bad either (thanks to mod) but it's still a hefty invest for someone who could bring more value immediatly

[light latch]

bro why does chalter not count but exialt does

[pale tapir]

texas is bad

[plain hemlock]

wait chalter doesn't count? lmao

[coarse notch]

nah texas is bad

[patent heron]

Here's the list if u want

[median fable]

going to a holiday apparently make you lose yan citizenship

[heady ruin]

like the japanese dog info broker

[light latch]

that's wild

[pale tapir]

matsukiri

[heady ruin]

windscoot is yan????? whar?

insane upscale

[median fable]

one of the reason you draft him

[robust thistle]

His logo is literally yan, what do you mesn

[light latch]

windscoot is literally a yan martial artist

[heady ruin]

I might be blind

[robust thistle]

Hes literally born and raised in yan

[warm basalt]

Who should I raise first?

[heady ruin]

I use him all the fucking time how I didn't notice this shi 😭

[robust thistle]

We need more context than this

[winter crystal]

He’s been like a go to early pick up for IS6 just bc of that

[heady ruin]

Specter
tin man if you do IS.
(5)

[patent heron]

Your cute cat boy is made in china

[coarse notch]

with your roster none of these
even tin man isnt really necessary

i love needing to discord search people's messages for a screenshot of their roster

[winter crystal]

Tin man isn’t needed to E2 and even if you E2 him in a IS5 run you’re benching him anyways and using him for toil count

[median fable]

next time send https://www.krooster.com/ if you want to get good answers

[heady ruin]

I mean he gave me an image and I just picked the best of them lol

SIGHHHHHSSSS

[wide gull]

is it recommended to farm chapter 16? if yes, which material?

[light latch]

#event-info message

[robust thistle]

Pins
And no you dont have to farm ch16

[median fable]

if i gave you a pic with Lessing, Vigil, Hellagur and Siege and I asked you "who should i raise" what would you answer ?

[heady ruin]

when my fav is actually meta viable ❤️

[heady ruin]

I think i'd just kill myself at this point

[coarse notch]

valid

[winter crystal]

No one actually deploys him tho 😭 just pick him up for yan op count for zero hope

[neon siren]

[heady ruin]

Nvm I'm going to end it all

[pale tapir]

in a game with highly limited resources, not investing is always an option

[sly compass]

60k is spark for pulls ya? Planning for next few banners and deciding if I have enough for SA2, Pram2, and then Wang+ChenAlter

[winter crystal]

Wiscoot is never making my roster otherwise

[coarse notch]

spark is 180k

[pale tapir]

180k

chalter is 120k IIRC
unless u mean ch3n
but chalter not sparkable for a while so irrelevant anyway

[sly compass]

ok that felt toooo easy. makes sense

[coarse notch]

yea thats why we always stress how bad of an idea it is

[plain hemlock]

I wish it was 60k

[wide gull]

adverse and standard combat have same droprates?

[neon siren]

If it was 60k then sparking might have actually been recommended in a few situations

[sly compass]

I meant this banner, but it looks like I'm prolly going out of SA2 banner without excess

[winter crystal]

6000 for 10 pull 60k for 100 pull and 180k for 300 pull = spark

[pale tapir]

you can skip silverass alt
both sashter and pram alt are good tho
you have time

[coarse notch]

you'll have time to save between sash2 and wang

[placid pond]

what do i need to do to unlock these?

[heady ruin]

btw where this image is from

[neon siren]

Go collect the items from the footprints event mission

[patent heron]

Post from 3 months ago, slightly outdated
https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1pqph9v/list_of_yan_operators_for_is6/

[coarse notch]

you're in IS central just check the is6 channel pins

[heady ruin]

thankie

[placid pond]

🫂

[plain hemlock]

Sparking would be recommended in most situations. Unless you got both ops in like 20 pulls somehow

[sly compass]

I guess I should look more into the actual gacha then. what is expected pulls to get both 6* on a banner

[heady ruin]

ngl I forgot I was even there I play is even once 12 years

[neon siren]

Ye lol

[coarse notch]

typically 150+ is a relatively safe amount to get both

[gentle gust]

is it js me that thinks raidians second module looks suspiciously easy since its only on guided tour 4

[pale tapir]

it's kinda bad is it not?

[coarse notch]

raidians 2nd module is also barely used compared to her first

[neon siren]

What schrodincat said

[neon siren]

[winter crystal]

Yes but true gamers will only unlock it after doing a d15 ending 4 run (me I’m suffering)

[placid pond]

took me the full 300 to get haruka and hoshi alt

[gentle gust]

oh really? i didnt think it was that bad

[neon siren]

[pale tapir]

just reading it it looks bad

[gentle gust]

why do you even willingly torture yourself like this

[neon siren]

He said relatively, so most likely, but then again this is gambling and ur luck plays an important role here lol.

[winter crystal]

It’s a break inbetween doing d18 ending 1,3,5 for IS5 (max diff ending 5)

[neon siren]

I need to start doing IS 3 again 😭

[winter crystal]

Hell no, I did diff15 and I had the worst rng of my life

[neon siren]

[placid pond]

exactly lol, i got lappland's alt in the free ten pull, so i had bad luck coming my way xD

[coarse notch]

why not do 245

[gentle gust]

is3 is so fun, you get to watch your operator deal a billion damage whilst also having runs where your wisadel has -50% attack

[winter crystal]

Bc I don’t actually hate myself 🥀

[neon siren]

Gambling is bad MOST, NAH ALMOST ALL THE TIME.

But a miniscule, a fragment and a neutron of it is amazing good 😆

[coarse notch]

bruh i thought we all had bottomless self hatred here

[gentle gust]

yall masochists im scared

[placid pond]

all the IS are good in their own way i suppose xD

[neon siren]

We do, we just got better at covering it.

[winter crystal]

I’m getting there (I just maxed my hoerer for iS5)

[coarse notch]

master bait will guide you to victory

[placid pond]

🥵
👆
bro i sweat it so hard, i hate gambling lol, and i'm f2p so the gotcha part of the game grinds my gears, i'd rather just a specific set goal to grind towards to unlock each character lol

[ancient current]

[tacit anvil]

https://www.krooster.com/u/pseudooracle

[placid pond]

i loved leveling raidian, i would love all characters to be like that xD

[neon siren]

Well, a common thing is we both f2p

-# mod came, let's stop.

[ancient current]

moving on

[tacit anvil]

Here’s the krooster finally

[winter crystal]

If you have the mats and lmd to E2 provi do it, if you do then E2 umiri and add her to your squad in place of Ethan, if you don’t then use ticket on provi imo

[median fable]

a couple of things:

1. level your Ines skills to at least skill level 7
2. you have three choices: use the e2 ticket on Mutsumi (nice dps and fever synergy with Sakiko), Surfer (you'll e2 her anyway but less priority since you have Ines), save it for someone else since it's not like you really need it asap

also, raise your base slaves /base and /baseskill in #bot-spam

[winter crystal]

Why choose mutsumi over umiri when he has ulipi and hoshi2? (No hate genuine question)

[placid pond]

matsukiri is pretty great when you get the chance to build him, he's probably my favorite out of those in your pictures

[abstract mauve]

my favorite is umiri :shusmug:

[placid pond]

uika is probs my second

[winter crystal]

Has Haruka

[median fable]

simply because mutsumi is better overall speaking
I can see he has some good arts dps like hoshi2 and even eyja but if I had to chose one among the band members to e2 I'd go towards Mutsumi

[buoyant sigil]

Is she useful in welfareknights?

[abstract mauve]

she's one of the best welfares ye

[buoyant sigil]

Oh, that’s nice to hear
Did you lack something that fulfills that role before her release? Slowing, fear, etc
Just, what did you have?

[winter crystal]

I was leaning between the two but figured he had enough blockers

[torpid quail]

The H16 stagez will unlock later?

[buoyant sigil]

I feel she’s pretty nice role compression

[abstract mauve]

welfareknights does not lack slow at all. it's mainly that she slows decently and she deals decent arts damage. she has good range and decent survivability

she's really good in IS when used alongside an sp charger

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh, I see. Also on the topic of mujicaknights: How’s nyamu? Is she just not it

[winter crystal]

Garbo

[placid pond]

yes lol

[median fable]

he has a nice roster overall speaking. That's why I'd proposed as option to save the ticket for now since there is no need for it short term

[abstract mauve]

nyamu is an odda sidegrade with fever generation. she's uhhh. you can do without her

[buoyant sigil]

In welfareknights that is

[median fable]

if I had to give a subjective opinion I'd have e2 Bryo lol

[winter crystal]

Even for a complete newbie with only them on their roster I’m still not recommending her even if you use all the other Ave ops

[placid pond]

but it's still fun to build and play with her if you have the rest of them, i really enjoy playing with them as a team, but i find the most use for uika as an extension for sakiko

the rest are just for fun for me lol

[abstract mauve]

she's mainly brought to buff umiri's uptime lmao. she has some range compared to odda and deals with hitcount enemies really well so there's uses for her

[median fable]

this isn't really the best channel to talk about fun value, there is #arknights for that

[buoyant sigil]

Ooo, neat. You mentioned odda? As I’m uninformed, do tell. They’re welfare?

[silver smelt]

if you want to build mujica characters nyamu is not the one to build
you build the dollkeeper and ambusher

[buoyant sigil]

Very honestly this game has so many ops that the first time I heard of odda is the RA freebie genuine question somehow

[placid pond]

uika has more utility in most situations imo

[abstract mauve]

yee. they are earthshaker. atk up defense up on skill with a micro levitate in aoe around enemy hit. doesnt levitate the main target tho

[silver smelt]

no the point of using mujica isnt utility its for buffing sakiko

[thorny edge]

they are earthshaker and we are japanese gobulin

[buoyant sigil]

Interesting, interesting. And how are they in welfareknights? Used mainly for the levitate or just dealing with certain enemies? I suppose the latter

[tacit anvil]

Thank u all ya girl needed some help 🙏 didn’t know the ave mujics 5*s were worth

[placid pond]

that's part of the utility, also, it's each players choice what the characters they earn are for, if you want to talk about why i use mine my way and you use yours your way that's fine, but there's no rule book fam, uika is simply better for my team, and if you played how i play she'd be better for yours too lol

[buoyant sigil]

Arguably just use both umiri and uika for even bigger range extension lmao

[median fable]

honestly, i find zero reasons to use uika with heidi free to get (general context, not band only)

[winter crystal]

Are you a tw player?

[placid pond]

i don't have room on higher level squads or i would frfr

[median fable]

I knew I had to edit my text since someone would have wrote sth like that

[thorny edge]

just put sakiko in a better tile

[median fable]

unless you're playing the Ave Mujica niche it really isn't

[placid pond]

absolutely, and low dp, you can get sakiko with crazy range early on, especially if you're using ines and matsukiri like me ❤️

you can have all of them out like right away

[thorny edge]

the mujica glaze

[gray mulch]

All bards are low dp

[placid pond]

only 1 extends sakiko

[median fable]

why do you want to extend Sakiko when I can just bring another dps?

[gray mulch]

She doesn't need extension

[tacit anvil]

What is a tw player?

[placid pond]

a less good dps

[tired dune]

Taiwan

They operate on another server than global and cn

Right EN my bad, too used to these things being global

[median fable]

pretty sure Exu2+Sakiko outdps Uika+Sakiko

[woven fjord]

^

[winter crystal]

Taiwan is two months behind EN

[gray mulch]

There's better dps than sakiko band. You only bring band if you're a newbie that doesn't have the better dps

[tacit anvil]

EN

[tired dune]

Used to be 6 months

[winter crystal]

Yeah they are getting screwed lmao

[placid pond]

right, for sure bring exu2, but tell me the rest of your 12 that justify not bringing uika if you bring sakiko? now if you don't bring sakiko, obviously don't bring uika xD

[median fable]

the band is good for nebies because 3/4 of the 5* are actually on the higher end of the 5* power level
this doesn't make Ave Mujica a meta comp

[abstract mauve]

used for damage. their damage is mid even for welfareknights so not really used at all

[winter crystal]

So you’re just asking about the collab ops like 2 months late 😭

[median fable]

any above average 6* is better than Uika

[plain hemlock]

Using the band members for fun is fine since they have good synergy, but there is no world where bringing stuff like exu2, wisadel, tragodia, ulpi, Lemu, etc. would be worse than the 5* members

[placid pond]

not if you bring sakiko, you avoid half of what i type so that you can be right, enjoy that brother ❤️

[tacit anvil]

yea lol i wasn't rlly building Sakiko until the recent story came out yesterday

[buoyant sigil]

And then I’m assuming neither is nyamu the sidegrade ig

[thorny edge]

fever + range extension is not better than bringing another super big cup 6 star bro

[median fable]

mf really thought he cooked

[plain hemlock]

Using sakiko or not is irrelevant, + she functions fine without her band members

[winter crystal]

Imagine benching wang so you can bring sakiko range extension

[abstract mauve]

for the most part yeah. the thing with nyamu is the extra fever can be quite nice for umiri. nyamu can be retreated once the fever is full so there's more use for her

[gray mulch]

I wish I had this level of confidence truly inspirational

[silver smelt]

anyone have a stage with 2+ elites that have a lot of hp
like atleast 50k each

[buoyant sigil]

Shame, odda’s design is genuinely pretty cool

[dense anvil]

What is super big cup! Not everyone is cn

[pale tapir]

I'd bench wang for texas

[median fable]

pretty sure you'd benefit more from heidi+sakiko since more atk buff/skill cycle then sakiko+uika for extra atk range

[abstract mauve]

i remember hearing about the super big cup from the best EN IS player

[placid pond]

show me your 12 that justify that statement, i know all the arknights, and i just don't agree, if you bring sakiko, i don't belive that you have 11 other operators that will compliment that choice to the best extent without uika. period.

[thorny edge]

good thing i translated to en then

[winter crystal]

Also wangs range (no this isn’t edited lmao)

[light latch]

Is this another troll

[woven fjord]

mfer doesnt realizing unironically bringing pepe for the guard atk talent is more useful then bringing uika for this

[silver smelt]

its actually global smh

[buoyant sigil]

Same thing atp

[silver smelt]

not necessarily
his global range gets used alot

[winter crystal]

I like seeing the 5x5 grid

[pale tapir]

I'm just being silly, wang is staying e0lv1 on my acc anyway

[silver smelt]

wtfart

[winter crystal]

Chad behavior

[thorny edge]

?
logos, wisadel, exu alter, mlynar, leizi alter, lemuen, ela, wang, chen alter alter, tragodia?

[abstract mauve]

haruka ines erasure

[thorny edge]

they wanted dps

[buoyant sigil]

Pram2

[scenic kayak]

is it worth maxing narantuyas mod

[placid pond]

i believe you can easily make a team without sakiko that can outperform teams with sakiko, but if you bring sakiko, having her be able to hit more ppl with that dps is almost essential because you're dedicating a slot to her for only dps, she's competing with the combo of lap and yu, the combo of arturia and logos, and now mantra and tragodia, walter, exu2, etc etc etc

my point is that IF you bring sakiko, she needs range extension, and for me uika is the best at doing that the way i want it when i want it, and i'm happy to talk about the merits of that lol

[median fable]

guys, who should I remove to add Uika? I heard she has a good synergy with Sakiko, surely she's better than Tragodia

[placid pond]

i think you're confused about my point, refer to the statement above

[woven fjord]

no ray detected, ur getting biden blasted

[gray mulch]

This has to be bait

[winter crystal]

You see if he was a newbie mylnar and Lezialter wouldn’t be used bc zero block so you’d swap them for uika

[abstract mauve]

"the combo of lap and yu, the combo of arturia and logos" 🥹

[placid pond]

lemuen, easy pog

[silver smelt]

ok technically lapp2 yu is a commonly used combo to deal with stat bloat enemies before they get optimized out

[thorny edge]

uika + sakiko is not better than lemuen + sakiko

[winter crystal]

Logos not lvl 90 = washed

[median fable]

because people wants to use cute band girls but instead of admitting is not the most meta comp and enjoying it he comes here spreading misinformation

[silver smelt]

as much as people clown on burnslop that's what people default to on day 0 of cc

[placid pond]

ascalon lemuen ela or leizi, depends on the stage my guy

[abstract mauve]

bro it got used because this CC debuff arts and physical damage and half op atk

[median fable]

@turbid ocean we got a troll

[thorny edge]

uika + sakiko is NOWHERE NEAR ela + sakiko bro

[plain hemlock]

No, what I meant is the opposite. Independently of you bringing sakiko or not, there will always be better operators to bring. If you enjoy playing Uika, that's fine, I use the 5 together all the time for general content and IS runs. That said, you should be aware that there are completely cracked 6* ops that the 5 star members just cannot compete with in terms of value. They just don't bring enough to the table metawise.

[silver smelt]

its been used in hcm and past ccs as well just uh they get optimized out on day 2

[gray mulch]

Just drop it they're baiting

[winter crystal]

Speed running a convo with Shaw is crazy

[abstract mauve]

hmmm. ig ccb4 is the only time where it lasted to day 3

[pale tapir]

eminem level aura if you succeed

[lone valley]

I hate your lvls so much

[woven fjord]

woah look its all the other operators that would be better combo with saki then uika 🤯

just admit ur wrong and move on buddy

[placid pond]

bro, i think the real trolling is just listening to mainstream arknights slop instead of actually learning to play the game without the help of the internet so much

[median fable]

logos lv80 was needed for ccb3 🥀

[thorny edge]

"noo i'll never admit im wrong, the mainstream sucks! grahhhhhhhh mujica for lifeee uikaaaaa hrghhhhhh"

[pale tapir]

you could also just do trag raidian no logos
unless u mean max risk which case idk

[winter crystal]

Puff aura if you don’t

[silver smelt]

it was? 💔

[median fable]

man, ccb3 didn't have Raidian 🥹

[lone valley]

Wtf skinmaxxing

[idle finch]

Should I pull mantra

[pale tapir]

I misread
thought u said b4

[placid pond]

back any of that up, how would any of them be better at delivering dps with sakiko than uika, they simply wouldn't, this is actual trolling, but i'm sure i'm the jerk somehow

[silver smelt]

pins

[median fable]

not generally, in my specific clear yeah. He didn't kill the right enemy fast enough

[thorny edge]

bro ela???

[silver smelt]

kid named 30% fragile

[winter crystal]

Logos lvl 90 is needed for my ocd tho

[lone valley]

Youre amazing
This confidence is to die for

[waxen dove]

probably gets bullied for having this name

[median fable]

pretty sure #help doesn't fall in "arknights mainstream slop"

[placid pond]

why just cause i don't read about "the meta" xD

[waxen dove]

yeah its just arknights mainstream

[woven fjord]

do u know what they even do, i doubt you do if ur actually asking this.

[placid pond]

bro why try to micromod me when you're the one coming at me xD

[silver smelt]

@ancient current

[median fable]

who is micromodding?

[abstract mauve]

he's not trying to micromod. he straight up is calling the mods

[winter crystal]

You should listen to Shaw

[waxen dove]

megaadmining this shit

[median fable]

I only called a moderator since the discussion went above what we can deal with

[placid pond]

🥵 well whatever, nobody even wants to talk about the game or game machanics, they just want to act outraged and be outrageous....

[winter crystal]

“I don’t agree with you so you’re wrong” mentality

[gray mulch]

Nice bait, please fuck off

[woven fjord]

still havent answered this

[waxen dove]

😴 wait 😴 dont bait me up 😴 i dont wanna get baited

[winter crystal]

Please don’t add to the convo 🥀

[silver smelt]

u guys are moths and this guy is a lamp

[placid pond]

bro i was giving real arguments about how i use my operators to my best end, and i was willing to explain, and instead i'm just getting attacked, and nobody is willing actually explain how their choices are somehow magically better than mine, i can explain why mine are good for me, but yall don't want to do what this room is for and talk about helpful strats, you want to crap on me cause i don't agree with yall and am confident in my disagrements.

[silver smelt]

nobody is saying that, ur allowed to play how u want but the channel is for meta advice

[waxen dove]

bro
yall hate me

[median fable]

you didn't give one argument except "range extension"

[plain hemlock]

We can help you with off-meta ops too but we won't tell you Uika is better than meta 6*

[placid pond]

no, it's for help playing good, the whole idea of meta advice is simply group think and lessing the number of strategies at your disposal cause you heard it on the internet is literally dumb

[median fable]

the fact you didn't even mention fever speaks a lot of your knowhow

[lone valley]

The only thing uika does for sakiko is range extension and what? Faster fever charge?
Thats nothing
Ela's 30% frag mines do much more+shes useful outside of them

[flint onyx]

For this ch16 event. Am I getting right that the stages clear bonuses, which are the footsteps or whatever this tab is called and adverse extra challenge rewards will both stay even after the event is finished so no need to rush and tryhard all the levels if my team can't, only event shop farming is obligatory?

[winter crystal]

It’s literally the rules of the channel

[lone valley]

Wait why am i even participating🥹
Nvm im not here

[median fable]

the main reason the band is solid (not meta but still solid) is the fever mechanics, not the range extension from uika

[placid pond]

the rules say you have to go with group think meta advice? and you can't have individual strats that are helpful?

[median fable]

like, if you wanted to give arguments you could have been better

[placid pond]

i'm literally the only one that made any arguments, so miss me with that

[ancient current]

alright, stop this immediately
this argument is leading nowhere
no more points are to be made, this is just yapping on all sides

move on

[winter crystal]

The rules of the help channel (one of like 20+ in this discord) is to give meta advise, no where else do you need to do so please pick any of the other channels

(Just saw mod message don’t Shaw me I’ll stop 😭 )

[lone valley]

Hi pookie
Havent seen u around

[thorny edge]

we're so fucking bored this guy is great entertainment

[ancient current]

not sure what wasn't clear with stopping

[thorny edge]

myb pookie wookie had to scroll up 😔

[lone valley]

Laqyboo u too🥹

[placid pond]

like don't talk?

[robust thistle]

Has CN got IS6 deep investigation yet

[ancient current]

moving on from the pointless subject

anyways, how exactly does mantra s2 weigh in on her performance? when to use it over s3?

[urban sleet]

Did we get any more monhun updates after that 36 sec teaser

[winter crystal]

S2 when no trag S3 when trag right?

[ancient current]

don't think we did

[robust thistle]

Mantra S2 is when shes your only caster and you dont have trag

[placid pond]

needs more testing for me, i had to skip this banner xD

[ancient current]

so does she perform well enough at e1 for a newbie?

[robust thistle]

Good enough

Generic caster skill no.37 with good cycle

[median fable]

prts wiki doesn't seem to have it, I think it's too soon

[formal shadow]

I just got here

[silver smelt]

i wouldnt get mantra to use s2

[ancient current]

interesting
how can she compare to a caster like eyja/blaze2/ceobebe at e1 for a newbie, over someone like click or amiya

[gray mulch]

Am I crazy if I think s3 seems good even without trag

[robust thistle]

A lot better than ceobe and balatro

[silver smelt]

it's alright, but it goes fucking stupid with trag

[formal shadow]

It's decent without trag but you're missing out on a lot of damage

[median fable]

the problem is that once you activate the 6 par she does nth for the rest of the duration

[plain hemlock]

It is still good, lot of frontloaded damage. But trag just gives you so many extra paral stacks

[placid pond]

right, but if you were new it could be useful to have if you need it

[median fable]

s2 is more consistent

[formal shadow]

Most of s3 damage is from the overcap paralysis :ya:

[gray mulch]

Yeah obviously but I'd still use it over s2 in some cases, like I don't think you always want s2 with no trag is my point

[light latch]

If you’re new.. isnt the other banner still active? pulling on mantra seems questionable

[urban sleet]

Ended today

[robust thistle]

You can get her offbanner in the future

[median fable]

I'd rate her s2 as the top for a newbie (among the ones you mentioned)
I could run some calcs on s2 e1 Mantra if you want

[robust thistle]

Its just generic usability on E1 for newbies

[lone valley]

Something something mantra s2 has logos mody dmg something something

[placid pond]

real talk, save for ash is real

[light latch]

Oh it ended thats unfortunate

[torpid oar]

omg its "my account is bigger so I'm right" guy

[light latch]

Can u not, we just got out of the last argument

[urban sleet]

Dude we stopped

[silver smelt]

[placid pond]

what? i don't have a big account, i'm f2p homie

[median fable]

~84k total dmg on single target
half for the chain targets

[ancient current]

I'd actually like to see it compared to eyja s2

[robust thistle]

Eyja s2 is slop though

[ancient current]

if you have nothing valuable to say, you would rather keep it for yourself

[plain hemlock]

S2 deals very low elemental damage tho so it should still be walled vs decent res enemies

[median fable]

gonna do it tomorrow

[ancient current]

I'm curious because I know eyja e1 s2 is actually quite solid for newbie accounts

[lone valley]

thats every caster pookie

[placid pond]

i think the numbers are out there, but that's a nice offer, it would be helpful to have them on hand for new players

[sly compass]

is there a resource that shows all the free operators you can get from Side stories? I remember seeing a website that had that info, or maybe even ingame but I can't find it again

[silver smelt]

Comparatively mantra s2 is fine
it's a caster skill of all time

[light latch]

Can s2 bounce back to the initial enemy targeted

[median fable]

Ik mate, I did the calcs for her s2

[lone valley]

U can click "reward" in the terminal, ye

[plain hemlock]

Thats ALMOST every caster

[median fable]

it's just that we usually don't bother with e1 numbers unless specific reasons

[placid pond]

nice! even has a graph!

[median fable]

like, newbie context

[lone valley]

Oh the 86k was lvl90 m3? Thought its e1

Wtf thats kinda ass
Oh well

[silver smelt]

skill of all time @ancient current

E2 S2Sl7 Mod1

So i imagine it only gets worse t e1

[lone valley]

Myrtle spotted
Take invalidated

[ancient current]

152 damage in the big 2026

[silver smelt]

im not raising matsukiri lil bro

[light latch]

Dont those things have 60 res

[signal dragon]

did you manage the pluma solo btw

[lone valley]

Like sorry but u didnt prove like, anything with that vid

[formal shadow]

Raise the rat surfer

Double agent :ya:

[silver smelt]

i have canta ines raised 🥹

[lone valley]

Thats like proving balze2 s2 or se against him

[ancient current]

no lol it's either something has changed in game mechanics (post-Unity??) or lag (we were actually able to get very very close with a lot of lag)

[silver smelt]

im not proving anything im just showing her in a specific scenario

[lone valley]

Wtf raise the rat too
Have every agent built

Except the new one..

[silver smelt]

cause apparently nobody else can do this because nobody else fucking pulled her

[gray mulch]

I pulled her

[lone valley]

I did

[formal shadow]

I'm poor

[signal dragon]

I think it's just the new engine running smoother compared to before with the frame drops

[silver smelt]

like if you want to suggest a stage you want to see her s2 ..u are welcome

[ancient current]

probably that

[lone valley]

Im a pro that pulled basicaly everyone since like, idk even
Hoederer?

[ancient current]

you can keep blogging about that in another channel

[silver smelt]

but yeah idk what stage do you want to see s2 on

[lone valley]

rechy

[light latch]

Kill the bear with s2

[lone valley]

On none

[silver smelt]

no thanks

[silver smelt]

yes this is my sentiment anyway i pulled for s3 usage

[raven ermine]

Why are we trying mantra s2 on random stages now ?

[placid pond]

for older players who have most the heavy hitters, do you think it's worth it to build a team around paralysis yet? like at this point, is the value there to justify building around thorns, tragodia, and mantra? i really like paralysis, but like i said, i don't do any real online research, i just play the game a lot xD

and my take so far is that thorns is way better with the nerv mod but he's still not worth always keeping the slot to bring with tragodia (who is almost always on my team if i'm playing harder content).

i'm struggling with my choice to skip the banner and want an excuse to pull i think, but in your opinion, does having mantra make it worth it to save a slot for thorns or not? if not then i'll probably continue to skip

[silver smelt]

idunno rechord was wondering about mantra s2 performance

[lone valley]

Ofc not
Thorns sucks

[light latch]

i pulled on the banner for the agent for base

[severe crypt]

She has a good base skill?

[light latch]

…absolutely do not do what i did

[lone valley]

And u take a stage where 98% of casters would have the same result🥹

[light latch]

It is a 5% improvement for the weedy combo

[silver smelt]

hey we have higher standards for 6 stars

[raven ermine]

Seems like not the best way to test the skill, especially at sl7

[gray mulch]

30% gold that works with weedy

[severe crypt]

…I’ll save my pulls

[lone valley]

"Higher standards"
Looks at nasti and titi

[gray mulch]

It's a 10% upgrade over windflit iirc

[pine plover]

nasty titit

[signal dragon]

30% anything isn't it? as long as level 3 factory

[silver smelt]

nasti is a caster? 🥹

[severe crypt]

Ok but like who’s using windflit

[gray mulch]

I was

[raven ermine]

She's a replacement for passenger

[silver smelt]

ok stop getting mad at me and suggest a stage then :realmad

[severe crypt]

Huh, maybe for lvl3 fac ig

[lone valley]

Im not getting mad :realmad:

[light latch]

We have plenty of 30% workers already, her claim to fame is she is a 30% that works in a specific setup that was previously using a 25%

[silver smelt]

[ancient current]

hi

[severe crypt]

In base rechord

[raven ermine]

In base rechord

[ancient current]

oh...

[lone valley]

Wtf

[raven ermine]

[ancient current]

windflit has a base skill?

[lone valley]

Clown to clown telepathy

[gray mulch]

Same one as passenger

[ancient current]

i see
cheaper passenger then, isn't that a win?

[gray mulch]

Yeah but now sneg replace them

[raven ermine]

I'm not raising windflit lol

[light latch]

sneg even better and only needs e1 and is a cutie

[ancient current]

oh wait right sneg also has the same skill

[light latch]

3 in 1 combo

[gray mulch]

if only she was good in combat

[light latch]

HG feared her power too much

[raven ermine]

~~0 hope draft for chetto ~~

[lone valley]

Draft better strats instead

[ancient current]

is cheeto sneg an actual copium strat or just giga fake and mayu is just caught lacking

[pine plover]

pathfinder node puzzle

[cinder hearth]

Sounds giga fake to me

[rancid sage]

Which Ascalon module is the best?

[pine plover]

X level 1

[gray mulch]

X you did the right one

[cinder hearth]

ModX, lv1

[rancid sage]

Thank you!

[golden vortex]

guys 16-19 challange mode so difficult, what are some good operators for it?

[urban sleet]

Is this a troll or typo

[pine plover]

[gray mulch]

Post your roster to #strategy

[formal shadow]

[urban sleet]

Could have sent the stage pic instesd

[golden vortex]

ok wait

[urban sleet]

Or yk just read better

[golden vortex]

this one

[raven ermine]

🥹

[cinder hearth]

Knew it. Unnecessary media, member since 2025, dusk pfp.

[severe crypt]

Eid just be making #help mad slop

[cinder hearth]

All adds up to baitslop.

[ancient current]

avoid unnecessary media here

[cinder hearth]

Notice how he didn't say "no ragebait", that's because baiting is actively encouraged by the mod team.

Anyways, Mantra mod level, if I'm building her? Mod1, mod3, mod0?

[light latch]

mod 1 iirc?

[raven ermine]

Would mod3, especially if you plan to run her alongside trag

[honest plinth]

tinman counts as a welfare op?

[light latch]

arent there some weird rules on the definition of welfare op depending on who u ask

[abstract mauve]

welfare refers to the arkrec definition. you can check the list of welfare ops there. people usually mean free when they say welfare tho

[plain hemlock]

isn't welfare basically if you can get it outside of gacha? aka free ops as rewards for doing game stuff

[gentle gust]

any usecase for logos elite module

[abstract mauve]

no

[abstract mauve]

i've only heard of schizophrenic use cases so i'd stick with mod delta

[gentle gust]

technically you get robots outside of gacha but i dont think they count as welfare

[light latch]

wouldn't vouchers make that definition a bit shaky

[gentle gust]

hermmm alright

[honest plinth]

ngl I hate this arkrec site already

[plain hemlock]

there are, but the use cases where it's better are rare AND not that much better

[waxen dove]

5 stars with best damage? like just good dmg
imo lappland is one of the,

[honest plinth]

tequila?

[raven ermine]

Def not lappland tho

[abstract mauve]

rockrock gracebearer mutsumi tequilla shalem techno

[boreal steeple]

How does yurodstvo ranged targetting is?

[abstract mauve]

most recently deployed

i havent used taunt so idk how she interacts with that tho

[waxen dove]

hmm ok
and unrelated but penguin logistics is basically obsolete in the story now, no? it was only relevant in the beginning

[light latch]

whar

[abstract mauve]

penguin logistics shows you the drops from stages. it will never be irrelevant

[raven ermine]

That's literally the basis for the data used in mat efficiency calcs

[waxen dove]

really?

so its contirbution to the story is.... in game things

[light latch]

uh can i get some context

[abstract mauve]

are we talking about the website?

[plain hemlock]

you're talking about the faction right?

[raven ermine]

Oh you meant the faction

[waxen dove]

yes

[plain hemlock]

he did mention "in the story"

[gentle gust]

youd probably have better chances of asking that in #ak-lore

[abstract mauve]

that doesnt narrow it down

[raven ermine]

I thought story stages idk

[light latch]

penguin logistics pops up in both siracusa and laterano story lines

[waxen dove]

yeah

[waxen dove]

main story

[honest plinth]

it's spread equally? well it tries to

and depends on context

[plain hemlock]

we can't have everyone popping up in the main story, there are tons of factions and characters. PL just isn't needed there for now

[subtle dawn]

how do i get robots from recruitment?

[waxen dove]

hm alr thx

[honest plinth]

tag robot and low req time

[waxen dove]

also lappland just belong to ri right

[plain hemlock]

you can watch the anime for PL content

[honest plinth]

what do you mean by belong...

[formal shadow]

Lapp is siracusa I believe for faction

[subtle dawn]

oh so you cant get them without the robot tag? on krooster it shows that you can get robots without it

[plain hemlock]

isn't she free with the wolf lords or wtv they're called currently?

[honest plinth]

you can

[raven ermine]

Lappland is not a p.logistic unit

[gentle gust]

id assume its like elite ops or smth, technically born somewhere else but recruited by RI and is a big part of it

[mild yacht]

You don't need just robot. It helps, but at low timer, it's just as likely to drop. THRM-EX is also the only specialist below 4 , so just sacrificing Gravel or Jaye with a low timer also works.

[mystic breach]

do i get anything for doing all of the strategy simulation or w/e or do i just need to do enough to get 24 score

[ripe prairie]

M3 priority for mantra?

[honest plinth]

Vigil s3?

[wraith shoal]

a medal

[honest plinth]

2?

[faint garden]

Bonjour, i was late to do this, can i get all the rewards?

[abstract mauve]

vigil runs s1 generally

[wraith shoal]

yeah,you got 6 days so you should be cool

[gentle dove]

Should be 6 days left, right? Yeah you can

[honest plinth]

ooooh, what about matsukiri, s2?

[gentle dove]

Just rush max efficiencies and you're fine

[abstract mauve]

s1 and s2 are both good

[limpid galleon]

hey i have a question real fast with the upcoming silverash alter

banner should i go ahead and pull for it with 150 or should i hold for the next one with 300 pulls?

and im a newbie newbie

[candid dirge]

does auto deploy on adverse compared to standard do anything for farming the new stages

[proven kelp]

Why do you need to reach 300 pulls?

Are you the type of players who will only pull for banners if they have enough for guarantee?

[proven kelp]

No

[limpid galleon]

not 100% but i dont mind saving when need to, to get broken or very good units down the line

[ripe prairie]

M3 priority for mantra, thankz

[raven ermine]

No reason to skip Silverash banner, both units are very good
The only real meta priority afterward is wang/chen3, and it'll be 3 months later, which is plenty of time for saving up

[limpid galleon]

gotcha good to know

[raven ermine]

Just get both featured if you can and dip

[limpid galleon]

since yea i have no units rn since i only summoned here and there with a multi so yea

i mean who dont like a yolo multi

[raven ermine]

People who save for upcoming banners

[chilly apex]

does this "reward track" stay after the event ends?

[boreal steeple]

Yes

[limpid galleon]

fair which is what im doing since im learning more and more about this game and loving every sec of it

but im noob as hell

[raven ermine]

We all start there

[limpid galleon]

true, rn im just trying to learn the good units from bad ones and learning the machanics as i try all the game modes

[wraith shoal]

whats the best module for logos

[raven ermine]

Delta mod3

[wraith shoal]

so max lvl

[raven ermine]

Yep

[chilly apex]

i have some spare pulls after doing some calcs for SAalter, mantra or the one that makes a ranged tile

[raven ermine]

Would say mantra over nasti personally

[chilly apex]

oh there is the sleep medic too, what about between the 3

[raven ermine]

Idk if titi got any usecase, i haven't been the most informed the past few months
But based on kit, i'd say mantra > nasti > titi

[abstract mauve]

for me would be matra > titi > nasti but if you want to have fun nasti is the most unique just not meta relevant in the slightest

[raven ermine]

titi used anywhere for now shileds ?

[wraith shoal]

titi easy skip cause right after is Wang + Chen3

[abstract mauve]

i heard of usage but from kit alone, nasti to me is just warfarin but takes more setup

like kit-wise i'd prefer warfarin to her but she has the schizo usecases of her but ye

[chilly apex]

is there like a sleep comp or smth?

[abstract mauve]

no. titi is the only relevant sleep character

[raven ermine]

No, that's pure cope

[chilly apex]

at this point there is like what 6 sleep ops?

[abstract mauve]

there's a lot more

[cinder hearth]

She does have the advantage of it being permanent and not even needing to keep Nasti fielded once you finish the setup, compared to Warf who'll have to stay on the field and keep cycling.

[raven ermine]

As you can see, not many notable ops there

[abstract mauve]

it's only permanent like a full minute in and you 1. get a worse atk buff 2. spend more dp 3. lose out on the utility of having an extra medic

same reason i'd prefer warfarin over stainless is why i'd prefer warfarin over nasti. it's the ease of use

[chilly apex]

next limited will be sora alt and sleep will be the meta, trust

[raven ermine]

Raw unadultered copium

[chilly apex]

i believe

[abstract mauve]

i pray for pallas alt

[ancient current]

get back on topic

[spark matrix]

should i go for narantuya skin or are there any other bangers i can use this voucher for in the future? (i only use her for s1 afk annihilation for now, is she still relevant in future stuff other than that?)

[cinder hearth]

Dawg you're asking us for opinions on cosmetics.
Think about your question, then ask yourself.

[gray mulch]

18op is the best value you can get from it

[ancient current]

skins are cosmetics and personal preference, this channel cannot help you with that

[spark matrix]

i forgot

[deft crow]

pretty sure they ask if skins rotate here and i believe they do

[ancient current]

pretty sure that wasn't mentioned or underlying anywhere in the question

[gray mulch]

You can check all upcoming skins in ak skin planner website, google it

[cinder hearth]

Let's look over the line again

should i go for narantuya skin or are there any other bangers i can use this voucher for in the future? (i only use her for s1 afk annihilation for now, is she still relevant in future stuff other than that?)

"should i go for narantuya skin or are there any other bangers i can use this voucher for in the future?"

• asks whether or not there are other skins they think will look good in the future.
  "i only use her for s1 afk annihilation for now, is she still relevant in future stuff other than that?"
• asking for nara use case.

Now, tell me, where is the "do skins rotate" question?

[deft crow]

any other bangers i can use this voucher for in the future

this means that they ask if other skins will be there in the future

[tiny abyss]

They alr knew that the skins rotate in there like that then

[gray mulch]

Nara is one of the better ops but not top meta @spark matrix

[ancient current]

no, this means that they are asking for people's opinions on future skins they find amazing

but let's not continue on this

pretty pointless, they got their answer

moving on

[raven ermine]

The voucher can be used on any 18 or less originite non collab skin if that's what you were looking for
As they said, we can't really help if that's based on skin preferences

[cinder hearth]

Moving on, people have been glazing the 5* "juggle not" but does she even have a use case?

[gray mulch]

I haven't seen any glaze for her

[cinder hearth]

I've been reading her kit and frankly she looks like "laneholder but worse" #1000.

[ancient current]

vulcan but better

[cinder hearth]

I've seen some here and there, but I visit the slums of arknights so

[limpid galleon]

man i hate lungmen downtown so much

[ancient current]

you can blog about this in #arknights

[cinder hearth]

Case in point, been there done that. /j

If you need help #strategy is the place.

[gray mulch]

Idk maybe she gets used in bearknights

[ancient current]

i mean probably

one of the main elements of glaze i saw was from shileds (no shit)
on the higher end of 5* apparently

she def ain't bad

[cinder hearth]

Fym higher end, what did Shileds find that I'm missing.

Are her statlines unusually high?

[ancient current]

personally i didn't even fucking get her so i couldn't test her

[cinder hearth]

I have her like pot4'ed since I was pulling for mantra.

@abstract mauve Get yo ass over here, what makes veto a good 5* op cuz I can't find it.

[raw tundra]

what should I do to unlock?

[ancient current]

I mean surely from:shileds veto

[gray mulch]

If you mean EG-7 you just full clear the chapter and it unlocks

[raven ermine]

It'll unlock only at the end of the chapter, granted you did all prerequisites
You can check depot/mission for the items, 2 from each
This one is just rescuing a miner

[cinder hearth]

Shileds kinda just shit on her in the only result.

[abstract mauve]

that's when asked about s1

[ancient current]

mfw context

[cinder hearth]

Mhm, problem is that's the only result to Rechord's suggestion.

[abstract mauve]

s2 is her main skill. it's a fast cycle and decent laneholding. she's decent ye

[cinder hearth]

Well there's a second one but I'm seeing indra so I'm, uh, ignoring it.

[ancient current]

well you do look at context anyway not just the singular message
but anyway, it's just that s1 is shit

[cinder hearth]

Are her statlines good enough to justify the raise over ie grace, pluma, etc?

[abstract mauve]

oh you mean for a new player?

[cinder hearth]

No, just for no-6* gameplay, the type I usually do.

[raven ermine]

ngl she might be a decent 5*, but any amount of glaze likely amount to "new operator cute, me want"

[cinder hearth]

Cuz my napkin math came out with some pretty mediocre values.

Then again, I kinda ignored the fear.

[abstract mauve]

frighten but ye

[cinder hearth]

Anyways I meant as in "does she have a niche compared to the other 4/5* laner options" basically.

[keen lion]

Guys, top operator:
Specialist, defense, slow, fast-redeploy

[abstract mauve]

idk when compared to gracebearer who would be better but i dont have good opinions on reapers in general so i dont think im the one to ask on this

[raven ermine]

slow for suzu

[cinder hearth]

Oh you don't like reapers much either? That's my goat.

[keen lion]

Got suzuran already

[abstract mauve]

just dont think they're worth the effort half the time even in no-6* gameplay

[raven ermine]

slow for suzu pot and certs
If you really don't want to, spec for weedy

[cinder hearth]

I think them just flopping over to ranged damage sucks when like half the modern enemies and most bosses have some kind of ranged attack.

[keen lion]

2nd top operator:
Starter, dp-recovery, shift, elemental

[cinder hearth]

I try to place them down and I just watch them explode half the time in newer stages.

[boreal steeple]

Shift for weedy

[abstract mauve]

ye. it kinda makes them unusuable in a lot of content and IS in general lowkey

[gray mulch]

Wtf 2 top op in a row

[spice gust]

guys what's the trick to cheese IS 5?

[cinder hearth]

Lamp.

You clear...is it 1 run of IS5? Then on any future run, you get an encounter on floor 1 that offers you a choice between 3 relics: doodle, talons, and lamp.

[keen lion]

Didn't get it for more than a month

Got magallan from slow

[cinder hearth]

Doodle makes nodes more likely to reroll into encounters
Talons makes nodes more likely to reroll into emergency battles
Lamp makes nodes more likely to reroll into relic nodes.

[gray mulch]

That's normal anyways weedy from shift and then defense for the other one for saria

[cinder hearth]

Then ideally you unlock blueprint squad, which lets you reroll nodes once for free.

[keen lion]

Did slow and shift, weedy and magallan

[buoyant sigil]

How’s weedy actually is she good

[cinder hearth]

Pusher niche and that's about it.

[raven ermine]

tf you mean defense for saria

[spice gust]

is there any Operator i should bring in particular?

[gray mulch]

Best in her niche

[cinder hearth]

Wis'adel, Rosmontis, Greyy Alter are all nice-they're flingers, who get heavily buffed by certain relics the Lamp makes appear more often. Prio's probably in that order, for new players.
Ros has some sweet IS5 value but you probably already know how to use Wis'adel, so she's easier to start with.

[raven ermine]

Niche, but good niche, more versatile than you might think, and quite irreplaceable when you actually need her

[spice gust]

yeah i figured out how much she's strong lol

[keen lion]

Magallan any good?

[ancient current]

you got shafted

no

[cinder hearth]

Contingency Contract merchant

[spice gust]

i'm getting her as soon as i can

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh, neat. Is she the one with the shifter summons or something along those lines?

[cinder hearth]

You can just borrow her in the starting squad.

[gray mulch]

1 summon

[raven ermine]

She's better than what people will tell you, but she's niche and hard to use

[cinder hearth]

Just make sure you have someone friended and with a raised wis'adel available.

[green anchor]

does anyone know if theres a list of operator records in release order? the wiki seems to just have them randomly and i dont want to have to search per event...

[buoyant sigil]

Oh, alright. And both her and said summon push?

[raven ermine]

All 3 of her skills have usecase, and the summon being able to deploy all over the map pop here and there too

[cinder hearth]

Every op is better than what people will tell you save like a single-digit number.

[buoyant sigil]

That’s… actually better than I expected!

[raven ermine]

Well what i meant by that is that she's actually useful
Not "slightly better"

[buoyant sigil]

Oh yeah. Was thinking about this earlier. Is there a tag combo that has only 5* ops? Hmm

[keen lion]

Should I be using suzu in daily stuff or main team? I've not really built her

[ancient current]

yes, check /rectags in #bot-spam

[buoyant sigil]

Thank you!

[gray mulch]

Nah just bring her when you need her

[ancient current]

never

[keen lion]

She is E0 lv50

[dire cove]

hi, which skill to M3 for Nymph?

[ancient current]

s2

[gray mulch]

You want her at e2 for s3 or use her s2 in sss afk

[ancient current]

@raven ermine genuinely what are actual maga use cases
and I'm not talking niche once-in-a-blue-moon usecases like cc

I've raised her and tried using her in the past. genuinely did not find any angle where I'd bring her instead of another op
zero dmg and the only realistic use i found was s1 helping a bit sometimes

[supple fossil]

How long till sliverash and praminx alters, is it enough to get them both if I drain all my pulls rn or just skip

[gray mulch]

Around a month

[winter crystal]

youve been playing for a year do you think a month is enough time for a limited banner? 😭

[supple fossil]

4 years now

[winter crystal]

yep....that made it better

[gray mulch]

You should know the answer to your own question

[raven ermine]

It's mostly stalling with s1
I have no clue about her usage in IS, but i used her a lot in RAcc, the environment is quite friendly to her and she's basically another flavor of stalling but in a good way
Fib told me a few times that she's good for relicless low ops iirc, but my experience with her end with RA
But you hate RA, so

[supple fossil]

Brain usage is a luxury

[winter crystal]

for 4 years?

[supple fossil]

[ancient current]

ive tried her in IS too and she was ass, so fib is most likely talking abt something very specific lol
RA doesn't exist so point invalidated

[raven ermine]

😔

[fallow raft]

When we get EX stages for chapter 16? in a week?

[ancient current]

you mean H stages

timestamps are pinned

[fallow raft]

also anyone knows who is this new enemy?

[ancient current]

isn't that the incendiary perro

[spice patrol]

I think its the baby dragon on is6?

[fallow raft]

no, not them

[native cargo]

what is elemental injury

[fleet badge]

Top operator must get from recruitment

[spare jetty]

not EX stages
its H stages

[royal swan]

To quote fib, Maggie is good in IS if the player is good (shocking I know)

He's talking about low relic or relicless stuff in IS3 ig but is prob less relevant post tragodia?

[ancient current]

well now this infaegraphic might come in handy

[tiny abyss]

Alpha mod

[abstract mauve]

fae misinfoing

[ancient current]

[ancient current]

@proven kelp any plans on reworking this graph

[ancient current]

no idea, don't have it either

[echo venture]

rechord is right

lacks yuri

[ancient current]

[spare jetty]

true

[tiny abyss]

Is there actually any alpha mod that focus on e damage tho

[mild yacht]

Pepe, kinda. Increases where damage can come from.

Elemental, no.

[ancient current]

the focus was precisely elemental

[royal swan]

None

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Operator_Module#Specialized

[mild yacht]

Ele’s only on delta till HG decides to be sneaky.

[royal swan]

I mean anything CAN be on alpha, they just haven't done it yet

[native cargo]

um can somoene simplify thsi collectible im my smoothe brain

[abstract mauve]

ed4 relic

[native cargo]

aint this just pure debuff

[abstract mauve]

yes

[winter crystal]

you take it then go to a scout node and send one of your ops into the future to fight the 4th ending boss, only people you send to the future can fight it

[abstract mauve]

you can send them later tho

[spare jetty]

ending relics is sometimes a debuff relic

[native cargo]

5 hp debuff damn

[royal swan]

Elites and bosses are stronger
U lose life points per statue left on the field
Last part implies it has extra effects in scout nodes (in this case, it's required for ed4)

[winter crystal]

you get 3 hope when you send the op tho

and pretty much prevents you from buying stuff in the bonsky shop with the way it depletes your lp

[vital kelp]

*often

idr any ending unlocking relic that isnt debuff

[ancient current]

i mean is4 ed2 relic isn't a debuff at all

[winter crystal]

there are those that dont do anything

[royal swan]

ED2 technically has no debuff and turns into a buff as well

[vital kelp]

fair ig, free 3 hope

[ancient current]

and free node transformation
bye bye emer carnival

i mean that's not the relic itself but zzzzzzz

[royal swan]

IS3 ed2 is also a buff no? +1 deployment or sth iirc

[winter crystal]

bye bye lp tho too unless you plan to go without candle guiests then you lock yourself out of relics that give bonuses to that mechanic

[junior heath]

I see the text, but sanity 0, Skadi's benefit to other Abyssal Hunters is purely from just being in the squad, and not being deployed like Specter?

[abstract mauve]

what is this thing?

[formal shadow]

Little Ba'jie of course (idk)

[ancient current]

sanity 0 indeed
if it says in the squad, it does mean in the squad

[hexed adder]

New surprise mon, comes with DLC

[spice patrol]

Eldritch horror

[hexed adder]

Its listed along them on archives

[lyric lagoon]

yi’s little guy

[junior heath]

The sanity levels too low But thank you

[spare jetty]

yi also keeps a fucking seaborn that gives us tooc sooo

[proven kelp]

I actually made another one when i noticed that i typed Alpha instead of Delta

[spare jetty]

more yuri pls

[proven kelp]

So true

[ancient current]

oh nice didn't have that one, ty

[native cargo]

whts bets chongyue skill

[coarse notch]

s3

[native cargo]

for IS6 aint s2 better?

[coarse notch]

did you get a temp recruit or something

[native cargo]

ye

[coarse notch]

i think he kinda just keels over and dies ngl

[ancient current]

still s3 anyways no

pretty buffable too

[coarse notch]

can he even get his s3 up in time during a stage

just use whatever skill you feel like using tbh chongyue is kinda terribad in IS

[near kite]

Any idea how to unlock the hidden info on stage 16-17?

[hexed adder]

Let the miners destroy all rock walls

[near kite]

Hmm strange I did… but did not open…huh…

[hexed adder]

U only get token, which is lamp i believe. Clear 16-19 to reveal all nodes first (then use the said tokens to unlock secret, dont do it in simulation btw)

[neat acorn]

Is there only 5 of them?

[native cargo]

is dusk good in IS 6

[hexed adder]

If its temporary just pick it, free yan

[proven kelp]

Did you claim the rewards from the rewards list
And have you beaten the whole story chapter

[hexed adder]

Thats for 18 and 19

[near kite]

Not yet…

[winter crystal]

also youre new right? still recommend for IS5 man

[silver ingot]

What level is good for mantra?

[sweet warren]

How recommended Mantra S2 Mastery in case Tragodia isn't present

[winter crystal]

How?

[wraith shoal]

this whole IS6 thing confuses me,like am i tripping or are there 5 ISs

[light latch]

there are 5

[winter crystal]

Yep but the first one is discontinued so starts at IS2

[wraith shoal]

oh damn alright

[light latch]

each one plays extremely differently from the others, just treat them as different gamemodes

[wraith shoal]

why though,was it any different from these ones

[winter crystal]

All rouge lites but not all rogue lites are the same

[light latch]

the first one was the prototype obviously, and it was very rough

[winter crystal]

Rough means boring

[light latch]

it was fun

just the balancing was whacky and it wasn't designed to be continuously replayed for dozens of hours

[winter crystal]

It would be more fun for me imo if IS5 high rolling didn’t exist

[wraith shoal]

not like these are any more fun after dozens of hours of playtime

[sweet warren]

What they mean IS#6 is actually IS#5 and the poster even said Integrated Strategies#5
It just that people love being wrong

[winter crystal]

They are as you unlock higher diff and different endings

Just gotta play it man

[buoyant sigil]

Or they say IS6 out of habit due to how the general community calls it, well, is6

[wraith shoal]

story wise may be but gameplay wise its the same thing each playthrough

[winter crystal]

Can’t teach an old dog new tricks or something

[wraith shoal]

obviously it might be cause im newer but still,thats just my opinion

[winter crystal]

Bruh the complete opposite

[sly compass]

Is this kind of clue fixing base skill not worth? Better to just make more number happen over smart clue'ing?

[buoyant sigil]

Yup. We wouldn’t as a whole get used to calling IS5 is4 instead or something, well
it gets a bit confusing

[winter crystal]

The nature of a rogue lite is that there’s a different experience every time (at least theoretically)

[wraith shoal]

"theoretically" does heavy lifting here.

idk if maps change after each completion but for now theyre all the same for me lol

[winter crystal]

🥀 bro you need to play the game more to make an informed decision

[buoyant sigil]

At that point it’d just be better to call them phantom, mizuki, sami, sarkaz and sui IS instead
(please correct me if I’m wrong)

[wraith shoal]

maybe i have to do a completion first for it to change

[winter crystal]

Higher diff will also unlock alternate stages and endings. Then there’s emergency nodes compared to regular combat nodes

[barren crane]

will sui skins be in store during wang banner

[wraith shoal]

well im not sauing theyre ass,just my early-game opinion on them

[buoyant sigil]

Personally I think that if you haven’t completed any of them fully at least once you’re not really in a good place to be giving out those takes

Play it fully and then form your take on them

[winter crystal]

It’s like tasting the top layer of a 3 layer cake and saying it’s all icing

Like wut?

[raven ermine]

If you don't like IS that's fine
But at least play the mode enough to give an informed opinion on it before dissing it

[wraith shoal]

if i wasnt stuck at that fisherman like boss id maybe come closer to beating at least IS6

[glass gate]

best tags here?

[winter crystal]

Can not stress enough times stop playing IS6 if new and play iS5

[raven ermine]

Guaranteed ifrit with debuff

[buoyant sigil]

IS5 is so much easier
get that one instead

[wraith shoal]

doing it to level raidian

[winter crystal]

Ok and why would you want to do it she’s horrible outside IS6 just play IS5 instead and have a better experience

[raven ermine]

So you played only IS6 on top of that ?
My guy, don't judge things so fast

[buoyant sigil]

You don’t need raidian right away, and even so she won’t boost your account enough to justify hurting your brain in is6 instead of doing is5

[wraith shoal]

played IS5 and IS1 a bit too

[wraith shoal]

well TIL raidian sucks

[buoyant sigil]

If anything just think about her as a long term goal, especially because she’s… well, specifically for IS6

[winter crystal]

Ok…… even if true why break your back trying to raise her then

Just play more iS5 as you learn more about it you’ll have a lot more fun the IS with your current account

[buoyant sigil]

IS5 + Wis’adel = Profit, and that’s just about how it is

[wraith shoal]

seemed like i could get an "easier" e2 than other 6 stars,since she doesnt need traditional resources

[buoyant sigil]

Ehh you’re probably not really using her outside of is6 anyways so it won’t matter that much

[winter crystal]

Yeah but again she doesn’t benefit you in general content. She’s specifically for IS6. You can use her outside it but it’s suboptimal so even freely raising her doesn’t serve a purpose

[wraith shoal]

i mean i didnt particularly know that much about her,and its not like i have an amazing team for general content,just thrown in there the best i have so she seemed like a nice addition

[winter crystal]

Again do what you want but if you’re hating the experience then why continue. Play easier more fun modes this isn’t a mandatory thing or time gated

[raven ermine]

Go farm wood in RA

[wraith shoal]

not really hating,just having a harder time thats all

[abstract mauve]

never !!!

[winter crystal]

Highly suggest looking up low dif guides then or borrowing a max radian and seeing how strong she can be in IS idk

[raven ermine]

[buoyant sigil]

As much as I may think it’s absurdly boring to grind RA glowstick (or RA in general), I can’t deny it’s something you wanna do ASAP because of how easy it is and how many resources we’re talking about

[pine plover]

[woven fjord]

IS senses went off whats up

[severe crypt]

Is6 hard

[abstract mauve]

we have an IS hater in here smh

[winter crystal]

IS6 hard, he’s doing it for radian, didn’t know radian isn’t good outside IS6 etc

[raven ermine]

Ew glowstick abuser 😒

[abstract mauve]

she is good outside is6 tho

[winter crystal]

Ok “not optimal”

[severe crypt]

Dw Mayu they can’t understand true RA gameplay 🥹

[winter crystal]

I doubt he’ll max her for it to be worth

[abstract mauve]

she's optimal untill you have at least 8 e2 meta 6* ops

[woven fjord]

the beginning curve for IS6 is pretty steep with no raidian so that’s understandable. Probabaly just statements made in frustration

[frigid stream]

do you really get that much resources from RA?

[abstract mauve]

it's a 1 time thing but it's quick and a lot

[buoyant sigil]

Yes. Absolutely. For starters there’s a chip etcher for every class as early as tier 3 iirc

[abstract mauve]

and by quick i mean the cheese

[raven ermine]

A decent amount, less than an IS reward track if i had to guess, but it's so much faster if you abuse glowsticks

[frigid stream]

I guess im spending the next hour farming glowsticks

[buoyant sigil]

As much as I wanna get into it at some point I just can’t find the time to sink into it + I already wiped the rewards clean
Maybe in ra3…

[pine plover]

quick and a lot

[winter crystal]

You think it’ll only take an hour 🫂

[woven fjord]

RA was fun imo, enough to log 800ish days anyway

[raven ermine]

All those RA shops cleared and they never saw croc priestess smh 🥹

[buoyant sigil]

Hour? You underestimate the ra grind
I recommend some background noise, definitely. you’ll be here for a while.

[frigid stream]

is it more than an hour

[raven ermine]

One of us !

[winter crystal]

Even if it isn’t it’ll feel longer

[abstract mauve]

it's like 3 hours with cheese

[woven fjord]

RA makes me miss my Yomi now

[pine plover]

techincally clearing RA shop is faster than reaching max milestone in IS

[raven ermine]

It's not even close

[abstract mauve]

it definitely is faster

[pine plover]

[woven fjord]

Ya, IS runs take at least an hour and a half on earlier iterations (for inexperienced players)

[buoyant sigil]

It’s faster by a lot