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So if you wanna tierlist the damage in AK, you'd literally have to tier it for every boss differently
better question, how many pull you have currently
is eyja still worth to e2
Do you have better casters?
pulling shouldn’t be a consideration for you
then no
errr no
how much should I have?
Then yeah she should be pretty worth it.
more than 150
I remember seeing a detailed proviso base guide somewhere in this server, but now I can't find it again
you at least want to have 150 pulls to spare for next limited banner
I need to find the best unit to put there with her
highest efficiency skill
Put the best % worker you have with proviso
mr.nothing with setup
Quartz from red shop if you don't have better
is there a way to get refunded for this if i uhm chose someone i don’t have cuz im dumb 😭
Oh the guide is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?usp=sharing
You can still use them. Go to the operator showingscreen, then as a Support
what not checking appointment rules on top right does to EN players
ask your friend to put the one you choose on support so u can use that char
Unless its a dogwater operator noone has. Then get screwed
but i could’ve done that anyways right 🫠 so i wanna use what i spent on someone else? or nah 😭 or is there a way to restart the entire thing? 💔
what will happen if your friend change their support operator while you use it in RM 
No you could not borrow them until you have drafted them
whaaaa no i picked 4 ppl and i only drafted 2
Unless you spent 800+ to unlock the "support unit without needing appointment" node
i did ☠️😭
Once you pick the support it's "locked in" to your roster
any 6* worth e2 after eyja here
Well, good news is you can unlock lots of support slots
i’m using 4
She seems to be my best bet atm
if you pull the same 5 star like 7 times but you didnt use the potential tokens, do you not get the 8 certs?
Does hunter ops counts for the bullet buff collectible in IS5?
sooooo leik can i restart rs cuz i think i lowk bricked it cuz i chose goated ops that i have, chose ops in that selection that i don’t, realized and unselected the ops that i have in support, and now i don’t have any way to access my goated ones unless i grind hella 😭
Sankta maybe
There's a few more Emergency Dispatch nodes that give 100/200 of the Exceptional Appointment pull currency
Cert gains are the same whether you use pots or not
Your dupes from random appointment also turn into exceptional appointment banner pulls
says on the shop i get 8 when its 7+
Does hunter ops counts for the bullet buff collectible in IS5?
oke 🥹 thx 😭😭
so no way to reset?
Just borrow… if you unselect you can select it again just refresh bruh
It only considers how many times you got that op. Then there is also certs you get for exchanging extra tokens
(rebuilding mandate) hi sry for interrupting! is it possible for an appointed operator to disappear from your operator list due to a bug? I just recruited wisadel from exceptional appointment but she's not in my operator list
Plus you don’t even need anyone else outside of the free ones they give you to pass those stuff
but better to select ops u don’t have right i don’t wanna waste resources by investing then changing to another one
yeah so im wondering if it counts the 7+ when you use the tokens or not\
You don't need to upgrade pot to exchange extra tokens
You need to borrow her in a support slot if you don't own her
Just got Monst3r from the banner
me ahh 😭🥹✌️
thank u!
Which skilk should I prioritize?
S2 mostly
So who did you even choose?? Just borrow the ones you choose and done
Yeah, e2 entelechia and a few strong support ops plus an e1 roster is more than enough to clear the current stages
Not the true damage one?
The 7+ has nothing to do with tokens. If you get tokens for max pot from other means but you haven't gotten the op 7 times from gacha yet, you will not get the cert amount for 7+
60k total damage isn't anything crazy
If you lack damage you can use s3, but that's not really why you'd use monster in general content
Got it
I didn't even realize entel free, finish shit with ifrit and bunch 4*
Tbf ifrit is very good in this mode 
Don’t even need the strong support op tbh if we nitpick
that’s why I don’t understand why they keep saying they’re bricked because they summon bad

so you only need to get the op 7 times and the unused tokens dont matter
i chose logos lol but i unlocked the node that lets me choose from wtvr for support
Just enable him with support
If you really need to use other op then just wait and gather resources you’ll get more selectors from pulling the general pull
Nothing is bricked really
This. Ente + ambusher + gravel + whatever is enough lol
Make a Rebuilding Mandate channel? react ✅ or ❌
Oof
I don't think it's necessary but I wouldn't mind so I refrain
Idk so I won’t vote
Yessir RM channel would be nice
would be nice to collate all RM things in a single channel
Issue with that is RM is a Limited Event unlike the others which is seasonal
I mean, we had a stronghold protocol channel
well SP became seasonal event
I mean its returning now
And it was used quite a bit from what i remember, especially for images/videos that would be clogging help
Is wasting rolls really damging for a f2p account or it can still recover is 80 wasted spins for ray not too bad
Hermitz do we have an archive of that Stronghold Protocol Channel?
its ur account bruh do wat u want
True true
80 is very unlucky but you can recover
Going for the most efficient/meta pulling plan is by no mean an obligation
Depends but more on damaging because either 1. You need a strong op to compensate for skill issue or 2. You want a release op or skin and you are suddenly broke
u can play 4 star only and clear everything with rewards
Regrets creeps slowly and painfully
what's like the average amount of pulls that you should be able to save every week/month? i feel like i'm getting my pulls really slow but i'm also comparing to youtube videos where they have like 100k+ orundum saved
you already did it so yeah...
recover or not its how determine you gather all the wasted pulls back
Did you get someone else instead of ray
any must pulls on banner rn?
Yknow people act like wailing pigs that are getting butchered soon if they missed Fomo or something
No only got 2 rays

Must Pulls does not exist, Look in pins for Pull Priority
Pulling past the first was your mistake
just dont get fomo bruh it not that hard omg
People don't have self control 🤫
bare minimum 5 pulls a week from daily weekly missions and annihilation
additional income from uncleared content will vary
How do I gain this power
Each month is like 40-50 pulls if you count originite usually
Sometimes more depending on if you buy yellow certs pulls or not
All bcs of my obsession for proviso💔
Tbh I want to gamble more after I got monster..
realize that AK is gachaslop and there are better games out there
Keep your grubby hands away from the button
ah ok, so i'm like about on track lol i'm at 30ish pulls not counting op since i pulled for sakiko and starting the account beginning of feb
Which Logos skill is sanity cost efficient? Planning to use skill mastery on one of his skills
Counting op from events btw
As a new player you'll gain a lot more from first clears, be it story or reruns
3 uses too much rock
tbh sanity efficiency doesn't matter at all. what matters is the actual usability of the skill
and yeah s3 is the best option
yea i've been trying to at least clear all of the basic event stages one way or another, i think i missed last event's last stage
Btw since your here, what's SA2 best skill again
Oks, I'll use skill mastery card on his S3
the event isn't afkable right
And manually upgrade skill 1
https://ark.yituliu.cn/material/elite if you want to compare sanity costs
I mean to an extent yes 
Guys am I tweaking or does mon3tr's construct sometimes not bounce the heal to other operators 😭
is there a way to keep 2x on forever instead of it keeping cycling
You are tweaking because that bounce is based on last deployed op
s2
You have to put down the equipment to spawn enemies but after that you could possibly afk
settings maintain 2x speed
no like RM-3 seems a bit challenging for my squad with barely any skill levels and e1s
so i guess i'm farming RM-2 for now? 
You can just idle until you get stronger and try again
RM-3 can be cleared by Entel and a bunch of Casters
im not using entel
With 3 weeks of event, i assume you have way enough time to idle and not power farm everything
RM-3 is a tad difficult for lower level
I had to basically farm up to E180 a bunch of ops to easy clear
casters and arts dmg helps a lot
That stage is basically just screaming Arts Usage
Ifrit is good
U can clear it with bunch arts, not even need 6*
I used Sakiko to melt mobs
wat is a 6* sorry idk if there's any rarity above 5*
ReChord just spam Casters and Ambushers
that's what I'm doing but I guess I need more levels
negative dmg
Oh lol I found umiri to be rly good but she's not afk
Doable with few e1
Also don't spawn anything that does ranged
I saw a silvergun guy say "shirayuki is the best caster" , thoughts
Not much of a choice, you need archives
Zero chance silvergun said that
Brb I'll link it
I mean its Cheap Aoe Arts ig
Don't send it here, dm me
wtf
i enjoy rm-3 with mousse and pinecone core
Ye shirayuki also good option to cover
i just got lavalter so i guess i can slime humus or something
trying to spam arts aoe i guess, stuff like lava/gitano even works?
Ya
Tbf blocking doesn't seem worth it, i'd ditch humus
Maybe he meant "best 4* aoe caster"
In all honestly you can ditch blocking all together
Yea it's a 4 star tier list
I didn't even remember using 6* here
my first 6* was blem
I've just been spamming arts with eyja indigo amoyi kirara 
Even then i'd be very surprised if that's not sarcasm
Because click is much better
Also still kinda questionable surely pudding is not that bad
skill handbooks are tough to get
what's the stuff used to farm those again
Blood Crystal Spawner
ulpianus any good in this event?
Bloodborn Cytoplasm
many way
i default to spawn junkman if want easy way
If you pulled him sure don’t select him though
Is there still a chance to get the older 18op skins last reset?
surely earthspirit works
Basically
You use rock, river, archives, slug spawner, mines, villages, platforms and portals
And you get everything
Don't expect much from him. He's ok
yeah i pulled
The prerequisite for that is having enough mobs to trigger village
You know what I think dedicated RM channel would be good actually
Hmm rough translation, so in short S3 mats cost much more sanity than S1-2?
I wouldn't spend on him unless you have an overflow of resources
i have 2m exp but i will not be able to upgrade his skills
Decent blocker then I think, if you can remember to activate skill s3 otherwise s2
what about passenger is he ok?
Blockers are whatever tho
I rewatched it,he says shirayuki is best at aoe arts dps than 4★ casters
He’s ok
S3 cost is 3882 sanity and s1 is 2954 in this example yes
and luckily this event have infinite mobs in all map:ya:
Thanks
He's good imo, you don't need to invest much in him tho
River is too good tbh
Is there a guide on how to balance out my deployment stuff on tiles in event
So I can farm everything evenly
^
Let me make a Copypasta of this
no idea
i believe it just activate all tool available
Does mountain have usage in IS
Watch kyo guide or read the equipment description more
I read it, I'm going all in for defence upgrade stuff for my hoshialt for now
Villages on both rocks and nothing
Archives and portal spam, and you should get everything
After getting wis from the recruitment thing who should I recruit next in RM
I should unlock portal too ig
River + rock + archive + village + surveyor (+ any handbook equip of your choice, optional) for max prod clear
I haven't used river yet but doesn't dossoles holiday mobs cause corrosion
I don't have ele healers
if i pulled mutsumi sakiko should be my next 6* pick right?
Mb i mistook surveyor for another node
They don't
Is there another game mode like rebuilding mandate where u can try 6 stars u don't have to see whether you should pull?
The assistant system has characters at set levels which means I won't be able to test their performance at certain levels
Y’all?
You can borrow it
River gives a lot, and honestly despite how chestnut is bad he’s good enough for this event
logos, ascalon, reedic, ifrit etc
Just borrow them in any stage 
is logos or reedic prio over those
also why ifrit?
no idea
will just default to usual strong 6* as priority
Ifrit is in special appoint
Ascalon, Logos, then whatever you lack in terms of utility.
I see
Or just pick waifu cause you can pass 
Dawg the assistants I see are at e2 then I won't be able their performance at e1 which would be the case if I ever get them since I don't have high tier mats
You’ll eventually have mats so just experiment with maxed op lol
I just tried Eyja alter at e1 and she died to elemental damage this is important data for a broke doctor like me with no materials
I usually make my squad E1 to avoid E2 support
Its capping but thats about what you get to try lower level before support update comes
Rebuilding Mandate Max Production
Terrain - Rock, River
Construct - Wilderness Village
Equipment - Bloodborn Cytoplasm, Archive
Special - Ruins/Outpost, Surveyor
Note: Don't add more stuff over it to have a more likely chance to get what you want
Item Production
River - Guard/Vanguard (Dockworker) and Sniper/Specialist (Diver) plus Training Handbooks
Wilderness Village + Rock - Defender/Medic plus Skill Handbooks
Archive - Caster/Supporter plus Skill Handbooks
Bloodborn Cytoplasm - Skill and Training Handbooks
Surveyor - Cores (Random Gambling Currency)
The borrow op gets set to the highest promotion level in your squad so you can try them out at e0 or e1 if you want
Huh, I always bring my e2 skill 1 m3 myrtle so I've never seen any e1 assistants, thanks for the info
You don't need bloodground or bloodborn, you can just spam more river to get more handbooks
Should I swap Thorns out for Ray, or is this my best bet fr fr?
remove e2 ops from your squad and then test them out
or y’know just borrow them in IS, they’ll start out at e1
Its faster if there's more sources ya
Would say logos s1 > asca > reedic
Ifrit is very good but i wouldn't select her yes
Yeah but having more equip types clutters the deck
Alr
swap thorns for ray
bet
but also make sure you will have pulls for next limited banner
you don't wanna arrive there with 0 pulls

No need for cursed bloodground or cytoplasm
Also missing witchcraft altar
I'm using originium recycler for extra density too
You don't need altar if you use ente s2
Fair point
Altar is still very good and upgrades archive
You can use it but it's not core for max
Is there a list of operators I should try out in rebuilding mandate while I still have the chance?
Like which operators do people say to pull for other than exia alter, wisadel and tragodia since I've already tried out all 3.
Probably just commit to entity spam
Whatever you want. Logos and ascalon are good picks for the mode tho
Entel (prep work for her Module Arrival)
I have a soft spot for reedic s3
About new game mode, do I need to play every stage multiple times or there's some kind of auto deploy?
Portal spam with only one ground unit with 0 block and reedic s3 is absolutely bonkers
Just get Max Gains and auto gather will do it for you
Technically you don't even have to do max clear, there's no medal for it unfortunately
Lol
This thing is gathering the sum of all stages gathering efficiency
Best max it for a lazy time while you let it pile up items
Not really but it would make your life easier
You don't need to, it just gives you more idle gains if you do
Don’t need, but it’s nice if you were to prepare for upcoming stages
Is mountain still decent in current highend content as laneholder
Absolutely not
The Auto Gather is based up the stuff you have gathered
Well actually, what is "highend" to you
It will not magically get items that you gathered 0 on
So I play once and the gathering does the rest, I can replay if I want to optimize better
which one should I choose?
Yes
Ifrit mosti
Like in story in general is he alr powercrept fully
That's not high end but still in the realm of general content
Story is not high end, he's fine there
No, for story he would be fine
Powercrept, yes, and it's not close
Alr
Which skill for Ray, and does she need her module?
thanks
S3 Mod3 for better cycle
Or you can wait for the better dmg module but it requires more micro
Thanks. If I have her as E1, do I want to use S1 or S2 in the meantime?
You need modx3 to lineup hamster and s3 cycle
How big is the difference between mod x and y do you know
whichever is more useful for your situation
s1 is nice as a pinecone esque skill, s2 for larger reach and consistency but lower dmg
@copper oracle what's the percentages again
I don't have your old math
for the banner only the mentioned 6 star are there or is 50/50 can give you any character not rate up ?
Much appreciated. How about for Mon3tr?
the older skins tht reset last feb can they go back in store again?
Hermy since your here, do we still have the old Stronghold Chat
most skins eventually rerun every limited banner.
there are exceptions like collab skins and l2d skins
Only a few Log In Skins has rerun 🥀
but can u still buy them with op?
yes. what skin are you particularly speaking of?
CC and Log In ones needs Event Tokens
3 collab skins after 5 collab skins with no
in between 
do ambience synthesia skins rerun whenever ambience synthesia happens or does it follow the regular rerun after 1 year schedule 
oh cool
l2d skins dont follow this rule tho
so logos skin rerun on sa2?

i read your mind
so what abt the l2d skins
they tend to rerun but not all together
just use my planner des
all the info you want is there
i dont have it on me bruh
for example. only the sui l2ds rerun during the sui banner
cant u do ur own calc
astrel wants the spoon
im on mobile rn and the ui is all fucked up and evil so yeah
Is it better to mr Monst3r's S2 or S3?
s2
Aight thx
#help message
I think that would be it
mon3trs a genuine m6 candidate, i would say she uses s2 more in general content and s3 in more difficult stuff
Doesn't look specifically better, more like a sidegrade tbf
@gray mulch
I thought you had a folder on calcs
that boss in 7-18 is making me pull my hair. I mange to finish the stage it's not 3 stars. The one at 9 is honestly easier.
No thank you when Light exist and the others have already done a calc 
no bruh i just recalculate it everytime
How strong is this guy
patriot uh just throw wisadel at him
Incredibly strong on S2
spam the mines
He's the closest thing to a cat god
cos i dont calc for the sake of calcing
i calc if i have enough dmg for a stage and the stage conditions are always different so saving calcs is useless
That's patriot no ? You can skip phase 1 with mines, any decent laneholder would handle bottom left
So you have your whole team +1 borrow to deal with only phase 2 patriot and win
giga strong
smthing smthing theory vs practical application
If it is can be stalled, he likely will stall it to infinity
bro is really tanky.
only thing lure immune is patriot from holomatrix mode
How? He can't block
2nd phase is way less tanky iirc
s2 cat lures enemies and applies paralysis on them
Fair enough, I just know about it for curiosity sake 
spam the mines
Also I'm tempted to get logos. He's too cool. I know the silver ash banner is next month. 💀 Talk me out of it.
read what the skills do
pair that with a fast redeploy and you can shut down almost every single boss ingame
if you have good amount of pull you can pull both
How many pulls you got
Is base eyja still good?
monmon at e1 should always be on s2
at e2 also s2, but her s3 is very useful sometimes
💀 I can't get the timing right.
good option if none else
By base I don’t mean base
I mean not the alter
120
wouldn't actively pull
u can pause to think or put at 1x spd
I have had e2m3 myrtle for so long now i was thinking should i upgrade to wanqing or elysium ?
yeah no save
ok
S2 charge, get deployable, enemy forced to move toward it if they path to it (walls with no direct path/fence tiles don't work). If enemy move slow enough they will not advance forward. And game usually don't spam enough trash (Cough Is6 latest ending on CN) to break stall loop
Basic is mid
I just wanted to E2 her because the sanrio outfit is very pretty
"upgrade" and it's like 2 extra dp
Appreciated. Thanks
You’ve already invested that many resources into her
no point in upgrading Ely or wanq atp
I haven't played reclamation algorithm yet does it have a recruitment feature like Rebuilding mandate?
oh yeah absolutely worth it
no
Ok thanks
Shame
I'm a honkai star rail player. 1x speed feels criminal. 🤣
this isnt autobattler simulator
So, wrong reply, but if you were to slow the game down you might handle the stage better
Wrong reply
Yeah well this isn’t autobattle simulator
You forgot blemichi and dr. leon 
real ones follow arflanyr
I'm confident. I can get 150 to 170 before the banner.
how many 6 stars will that get me.
ascended ones make strategies themselves 
Keo is the real nobrain
Me when i need to activate 18s cd thing to counter 19s cd boss skill with no backup plan if i fail even once in 15 minutes: Let's goooooo
worst case scenario 1
like 3 or 5 depending on your luck
I'm a new player I'll literally take anything.
Though you’ll likely get like 4-5 imo depending on luck
on the conservative estimate of 40 pulls per 6* about 4
Hopefully one of them is a Lapland. I like crazy ladies. 
Lappland 1 or 2
offrate lapptop 🥀
lappland 1 is out of the question since she’s kernel and logos is better than lappland alt
Both can't be obtained, lappland1 is kernel and lappland2 is limited
2 obviously
Isn't lapp2 in the pool?
either huff copium or get ready to spark if you want lapptop because you're cooked on SAlter trying to shoot for offrate
maybe they didn’t pick her 
Yeah she'll be offratable
off rate is small chance though
offrate chance is very small and logos is just better
I picked a random back then. Because I was ignorant.
by that logic pram2 is better
Can we judge your random pick 
lappland 2 gets shut down by any hittable map object with aggro on it
I don't have logos. I want him. 
also no res shred 
33% chance
no guarantee you’ll get logos
the damage is very good in itself to not make a difference when compared to others like gg
lapptop and susie are comfort picks anyway
if you actually need to clear difficult content there will always be better options
Didn't you just tell me to save

yes
yes
gg with 20 res ignore 🤣 :
33% chance is dookie bruh
that's 33% on top of the base 2%
33% of logos now or
or 95% for silverash2/pram2 in a couple weeks
hopefully I don't get the same character multiple times. Dupes in arknight aren't as valuable as other gachas.
Yes I'm salty about my P1 executor
I feel like those lines are the most important ones tho
if you’re still unsure about saving for sa2/pram2, logos and pramalt have very similar dps
Wait fuck this is s3 on pram
Well yeah, why would you not use s3 ??
speaking of dupes has there been any way to obtain more royal guard tokens beyond CC perma shop and red cert shop?
That's pretty close.
Spec token in is2 and the gold cert shop
Whale territory, but yellow certs have tokens
Pram s3 is lure mostly and doesn't fight for elemental
Her main yes, but s3 still used in endgame stuff
i see
holy 540 gold certs
thanks
that's 76 pulls 
s2s her afk slop skill, and is usually more comfy. theres just high end usecases out there for s3
same case as haruka
Considering the damage/range/util, i feel like s3 would be the main skill in gen content too
Players are just looking for the least effort possible
good point yeah
Ngl I haven't used haruka s3 yet
it's a nice skill
big range n all, plus bubbling the enemies is funny
So uhmmmm, yeah! I got her in a few pulls, should I put her in a team alongside Haruka?
yes because they do different things
and just say her name next time 
Yeah but 60sp feels really expensive compared to inf duration is all
yes
haruka is mainly afk healing and sanctuary, mon3tr is for aspd buffing
You usually don't need both
she’s a great pair for sakiko if you have her
I think I can pair her with Sakiko
Considering the fact that she greatly benefits from it
should be after iirc. applies onto final damage number
apparently fire chen dragon turn also variates with the tile shes on?
not just the tile type srounding her
wait fr? 
all im aware is that it moves forward, then turns right if it bumps into anything considered a wall (ranged tiles, red box, etc)
what 
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV129P5z7EBJ/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=c656cfef4810ab05e483e9c96960f9b5 9:40, this guy said on 0 0(left bottom), she only gets 52 turns, and after 8 8, she gets her max turn in one tile bathroom
After calcs. For example mutsumi with sanctuary doubles from bubbles: dmgx0.7×0.7
-# Why is Chen3 in the bathroom? 
why does customer service keep deleting my conversations
Well what are you asking them
cn call it bathroom
idk it just happens
i know its a joke related to the previous comment. but it could derail chat into nonsense
exactly why i said this
So you're just chatting with CS for fun ? 
You don’t even need to care about this as a causal
no whenever i try to ask something it keeps erasing the conversation
This is the same guy who said Wis is bad cuz she can’t survive ra danger mode day 3000 🥹
well, what if it matters, like killing al rafiq in time
Something like what ? You're being very vague for no reason, how can we help ?
SEE
Can agree but some cases you need to place saki early and mon3tr healing prioritizes path with most recent placed character so it can literally skip sakiko since i place early
just anything in general, what if i f up and forget to bind my account and i can't contact cs
seems to be behaving normally afaict 
ch'ens surrounded with 'walls' (red box north, map boundary east, ranged tile south, nasti tile west)
also the deviation is quite big, 62 to 52????
With fking how big the map how horrendous your placement would be for it to affect anything
But what ? You're not making any sense, cs are not there to discuss things
You either have an issue with your customer experience, or you don't and they won't humor you
And just bind your account then
You either tried to ask them something serious, and then you should be able to tell us what the topic was about, or you didn't and that's why they deleted the thread
no no
huh
i wonder if he asked gameplay question on costumer service
@manic marsh are you having an issue with the game currently?
whenever i try to say anything on cs it just erases my conversation
omfg 🥹
ok but besides that. are you having an issue?
only hypothesis i have is that dragon has weird interactions with tile height, in the 3d map layout sense
if you are having an issue feel free to email them in #✨contact-support or leave a message in #tech-support
wait
Note that there's no Support team in Discord. And leaving message here doesn't solve the problem. 
Who should I get next? Any recomendations?
tragodia
you wont even have the DP to deploy the cat with all tile shit you need to spam deploy
Yato alter idk
Reedic, logos
I guess something is erasing your cache, so you're starting ticket anew every time...
Idk how to help except reinstall and look for better outcome.
You should be able to full clear everything easily with that already
Well bind it ?
Oh yeah I cleared all the current maps. But in a few days theres a bunch more
Bind in Main Email would be appreciated.
You can just save it till you see how you do with the new map and decide then
Main. Not Recovery. You should leave this menu for that.
is whisperain good 5 star
Can't go wrong with logos tho
logos maxed with s1m3 on witchcraft outpost 
just pump his atk so enemies die the moment they step in
didnt say im gonna use s2
while you focus putting down all the tiles for farming
Yes.
Yes allan (did I guess right)
Like why is it 3 censored 😭 That’s barely hiding anything
can i bring modules in rebuilding mandate?
only if you own the op and have installed their module yourself
if the support have the module
ah shiet
support borrows are locked out of mods 
oh, they are? sucks to not own wis urself ig
wis/logos borrow bricked ril
lyudmila stonks down 
speak for yourself i built s3m3 y3 for her months ago 
if your email is say abcdefghijk@gmail.com it will be censored to ab***jk@gmail.com
Oh ok
that’s how every email censor works man
Who should I choose; I’m feeling Myrtle cause I don’t really have a flag bearer but Ethan’s 3x chance sounds so good
Why in the new event, some op I recruited doesn't show up in the op tab?
The 2 that don't show up are ulpianus and blaze2, both I don't own
But so does nymph and ceobe but those 2 show
Just go with ethan
have to use support unit
Why? Also only ulpianus show up there
nobody in ur friends list has blaze alt support unit ig
Tho tbh, not like you’d wanna use blazealt 🥹
Her s1 should be good here I think?
Blazealt s2 is decent aoe for mobs but yeah you probably have better options
blazeter? s2
Just skillfully roll marcille 
only if you have someone with a passive slow like modded ethan and even then it's just worse than s2 which has basically no cooldown
just select for marci :real:
I just use the aoe duo ifrit+logos now
wtf you have logos, why you need blazealt
Cause it's an even I can use any op I want at max (no mod)
i will NOT tolerate blaze2 slander 😭
So you wanna use blazealt despite her being subpar?
I wanna use her because I never have used her before
Look for her in #friend-id then
blazealt has solid enough aoe damage on 2 different skills, and rm rewards aoe quite a bit. if youve got no better 6stars go ahead and draft her
I can toss u a friend with m9 lv90 blazeter if u want
in a couple min
And no, there is no way ilo start with her in is
if you're talking about the current orienteering banner, the info is in 📌
Is Lee any good?
Isn’t he like weaker chong yue?
chongyue is the wrong comparison, lee isnt even really a laneholder
hes a mob staller + anti-stun/cold utility option
nothing like chongyue and hes not good
Not good, can’t even think of a place where his niche apply
bro Lee is a silly for fun man
Aight thanks
I was wondering since I got his outfit for sanrio
he also has taunt + dodge. situationally better than mlynar if you need a taunt bot
when there's a lot of small guys I like using Lee to push them all away to see them all scatter but it's not very useful
he's also good stun bait since he reflects stun
what is the situation in which he is better than mlynar 
i find lee fun to use but lets not be too charitable here
when your taunt bots survival is of more importance than any damage they deal 
...but mlynar's defensive stats are just straight up better with no rng
isnt mlynar significantly more survivable than lee?
70% is a pretty charitable rng check and lee isnt that far behind
it's a choice for sure
He stand in the middle of a 3x3 which surrounded by holes, hundred of weak mob like ori slugs and spider walk around him
to use lee that is. an interesting choice 
In that situation, he is better than mylnar
lee is missing 15 res, 37 def (meh), and about 1500 hp
and has the cost of eating all of your dp 
so what you're saying is that he won't get targeted by mini londinium cannon barrage 
Not using Lee with mod, disgusting.
Do you guys think in the future, there will be a supporter whose kit is supply an ungodly amount of sp
no
isnt that just nasti s2
lee with mod still cripples your dp 
8 sp on a shit cycle isnt an ungodly amount
At that point, you already have Stainless.
correction. isnt that just exualt s3
yes actually that kinda is the best we have
Can stainless s2 resupply his devices?
Lee doesn’t cripple dp with mod, it’s just lower.
this is some weird questions being asked, help dont predict the future
Not legally anyway.
id say 66% of ur dp is a cripple
illegally we still dont, not that far any ways
yep
? 66% decrease is pretty crippling in my book, thats worse than baro2
we cant tell u what HG is gonna release in a billion years 
It'll be nothing because we will be EoS
i can bet you that in 2 years we arent getting any good sp batteries
and half the time baro2 forces a flag draft already
Can devices be heal with skalter
Isnt this just ptilo/shu all over again

Which thorns module?
arts damage one
And theyre not even used for sp battery outside of fringe cases
modx2
the only good sp battery is still razor from year 0 aaaaah
If only there is a way to 100% up time yu s3
Is shu even good
Wdym is shu even good
is this the legendary yu tail hugger all over again
but why tho, the operators that take advantage of it have terribad cycles
Shes the best defender in the game
Blaze2 s3
Oh
sp batterying isnt relevant for most content because you arent coming close to cycling skills off cd
i love yu
but you are tolerable. we've had a case earlier that wasnt
a "case"
Never heard of shu other than her being a guardian
Wow you must live under a rock
when does salter event start?
hasn't been announced yet so we can't say
in 1-2 month roughly
Don’t know, in a month or sth
In the future
It has sp lock
Sp lock until shield does full circle
it also changes her own autos, skill doesnt end until hannya does a full rotation
For the current event, are there any specific units that most would have or are easily obtainable in it that one should build?
i thought sakikos 5head in this event, but her dmg is kind of underwhelming
is she overhyped?
entelechia is free through the skill tree and is a comfy carry while you wait to pull everyone else you need
Huh
overhyped yes, shes single target so shes not doing that good in this event yes, but she should still cook unless ur not using her right
need mod 2
She’s st, not suitable, plus you probably don’t have her mod
this event really wants aoe damage, while saki is single target. shes your bosskiller when you need one
she also absolutely needs module lv2 at minimum
i mean i thought her S2 with multihit was genius, that was my idea
I wonder how good would chen3 be in this event
keep wondering
it would fly out of the map
yea saki phys s2 doesnt feel great for this icl
setting up a ch'3n toilet with all the terrain blocks you have sounds incredibly easy 
The event also encourages arts more than phys
proof?
how high is the average enemy def in this event that togawa s2 feels underwhelming
Ente for carry, ifrit aoe, kirara ambusher, quercus healer, ely canta dp, gravel frd
Nah I mean the slash skill
al rafiq isn't the only thing you deal with, so you wouldn't neccsarily think how to optimize damage on him, but rather how to have enough damage so your care about him the least
Keep the mob flowing and she should go in indefinitely
ch'3n s2 needs to sustain a kill for every hit to keep her uptime, and uh . lets say the skill doesnt give her the damage to do that the moment they toss an elite at you
-# i am ch'3n s2s biggest hater and i will die on this hill :realmad:
That's why you buff her with like skadi
-# 
whats one skadi gonna do 
these weird asf pure copium combos reminds me of someone
yes. yes it does
does ch3n dragon benefit from yu wall?? yu gather all enemy too so she can hit all of them!!
You can always do the easy route of logos ifrit, but the fun begin when you do random shit that work
yu wall isnt a tile barrier, s3 dragon should just pass through
it does mean he can make it deal burn damage tho 
Like all the sp battery and lemuen s3
omg yu so borkin
is entelechia good in this new mode? 
can i sell yu/wang tech so wang can get res ignore on top of his res ignore 
of the opinion that entelechia is good, period, but between rm valuing aoe damage and giving you an entel for free, shes a very comfy early carry while you wait to pull the meta ops
entelechia is decent when new mod. currently still mid tier tho
How can I uninstall(?) a voicepack?
uninstall the game

clear cache and redownload all the files
and what meta ops do i want to recruit? walter, exu2?
no but actually. i dont think there's another way
clear cache removes all ur installed stuff but at least u dont need to download the app again
Aight thanks
- tragodia, lemuen
-# ifrit, marcille
I drafted hoshialt
How many yellow tickets do you need to max this out?
Also how many Orundum do you need to get an operator guaranteed in his banner?
is hoshialt an s2 angle in rm? s3 doesnt sound aoe enough
thanks
258, and u cant guarentee in this banner
ah thx
I only mean in general the operator banners. Not the orienteering one
average is 35 pulls for a 6*, max u can go without is 99
for a specific 6star, it depends on the banner type
standard has guarantees within 150 and 300, solo debuts at first 6star after 150, limited gives you spark points to spend on whoevers available
is rm mudrock worth looking at at all
no imo
She'd probably leak/fold quickly
fair enough. just figuring out who to dump my mats on since ive built everyone good already
Ascalon?
dont have
can borrow
Are kernel and standard pulls counted together or separately in game, cuz they're put together in the the thing in the yostar center
no like, i havent pulled her and im saving my next select for exu
get the workforce expansion upgrade, you can borrow anyone. don't have to pull them
will SA banner still be in march
seperate
oh holy shit?
so you get to just stop engaging with the gacha entirely after a point, noted
Still? Who said it was going to be in the first place?
We don't know but it's certainly not gonna be this month since the last limited banner was Hoshi alt
And that was in January
This event is what 3 weeks long?
ok good more time to save
oh yeah does chen dragon only turn clock wise
Should my surtr have S1, S2 or S3? (I dont have S3 yet but i still wanna know)
s3
Whats the second best
Not using surtr
uh she doesn't have any other skills
Alr then
but while she's e1 you can use s2
S2 at E1, S3 at E2
I have her at e1 rn working on e2 thanks
should i nab haruka (no healer rn), exu2, tragodia, or like ascalon sash ulp for rs (rn borrowing wisadel pink wheelchair girl logos mylar)
or like r there better ppl to borrow lol
I mean you already are borrowing the best stuff
If you think you have enough dps then Haruka isn't bad to get
oke lol idk if i missed someone better or smth 😭
Leizi2 is a missing choice
oh… would i switch out mylar for her
Nah its fine since both are equivalent anyway
Which skill for Mudrock in specifically the curent event?
🥀
2
Thought so, thanks
Aoe is the shining jewel of this Event
Gummy module worth getting?
Too many things clump up
First line done now what do i focus
Ye wasn't sure if the extra 15% was decent enough
Is this banner worth pulling from or should I just save for upcoming banners? New player
First 10 pull is worth imo. Beyond that absolutely not
pull singles until first 6*
Sounds good thanks
Oh I didn't know the bonus applied to singles too
you can check the bottom node for extra free ops if you want, otherwise get the big node below your current one
Bottom if you want unli access to support
The 2nd last node removes Support Restrictions
So probably i gonna go for that one
it's 1 from tutorial and 9 rn, so a 10 pulls is wasting 1 pull
If you want borrows sure
But is the best choice🤔
I didn't prioritize that for mine because I already had the most meta ops
Guys could i buy Wisadel on SilverAsh alter banner for pulling 300 times?
best choice if you're not struggling just get the big node below your line
I got a 6* in 9 pulls, is it just guaranteed once or would I get another one after my 10th?
Sparking is not recommended
i mean if i dont have her
I see thank you
only once
Ty
Sparking is never ever recommended in most situations
Only reason you'd spark is you getting stupidly unlucky and is practically kissing the the pity system
One year and a half later and wisadel sparkers all around still 
I mean can't blame them if they wanna shut down cognitive thinking
Ew why would you 
I use Wis'adel and the others for convenience reasons
Yeah i mean sparking is if i already have a character. Maybe i dont understand you. Im asking if i could buy some standart character in the shop for pulling 300 times on a limited banner.
no
No
Nvm I can’t read
the only standard character in the spark shop is that banner's standard pair
You are indeed not understanding me, wasting 300 pulls for a character is not ever recommended
oh i see. So i can buy only rate up characters in that shop
Your wording is wrong
You can buy wisadel for 300
Wisadel is not a standard character, she's a limited
You can buy both featured, and past limiteds of the same type of banner
Only Standard in that shop is Pram Alter
Oh yeah thank you
It only allows you to have access to the current rate up standard
This is, in fact, not recommended
But knowing that, you're the one in charge of your account
What should be the best option

Wis'adel if you want an easy time
Don't mass upload
Use krooster and if something isn't there you can communicate that
So better would be just getting the rate up character and waiting untill she becomes standart and waiting for her returning banner or buy from yellow certs shop?
But i dont have her but if i chose i can use ?
They also make a collage just saying 🤫
we don't need krooster for this, it's all ops except collab
Well everything is there outside of collabs, so 
Only 1 image wouldn't clog up the channel
It allows you to borrow her
Kroster works for the new event?Didnt know that
how does this work
what prefixes should i use
Specialist for Weedy gamble
That makes sense sorry
use akgcc or krooster to check all available options
id that exulsai
So probably i gonna chose her 
huh?
idk what is weedy
an operator
She won't become standard
But the better path would be to pull for silverash and pramanix alter
Then save your pull currency when you have them
In the off chance you have to go to 240-250 pulls for them, you can consider sparking
But most likely you'll reach 150ish and have both
Spending 150 more pulls just for wisadel is too expensive
You are indeed not understanding it
Limiteds do not ever go to the Standard nor Rerun nor go in Yellow Shop
The Standard Operator in that banner will never get a rerun because she's unfortunately placed in a Limited Banner and you'll need to wait 2 years later for Gold Certs Shop
top op specialist to gamble for weedy
do you know if i can roll exilsai on it
On what, be specific
You can offrate Exu2 on SA2 Banner
top operator thing prefix

You can, but why do you want exusiai
Base Exu yea
Wym X Schrodin
thank you. i understand it better now
Isn't Exu2 offrate on October limited and not Sa2
thank you guys
Why are you replying to the limited banner conversation 
the covenant one
meta one i love metamancing
She won't go the Recruitment ever
idk what to use for this than
i could just gamble raw
Limiteds are Limiteds for a reason
You can't get exusiai the new covenant on top operator tag
Check the top op pool with a recruitment calculator
we've told you to go specialist top op for weedy
Just gamble with Top + specialist
Why would you ignore the advice about getting weedy just because you don’t know who she is?
okoookok
don't ask a fish why he gets baited
-# they were taught not to go near strangers
Question. Does the distance from a target influence at all how fast the dmg is applied? Like Range's arrow having to travel more to hit or anything
fundamentally yes
Depend on the skill, but yes
Saki being a weird case I guess
Like imagine weedy s3 for example
Point blank damage is instant-ish
But there's a very clear travel time
this becomes notable in IS for example with spinach/pasta (+% atk for 1 second after skill activation) when certain operators' attack animation combined with projectile travel time makes them not use the relic at all

this depends on if its projectile attacks or instantaneous attacks
discussions were had before on hibi winning over ansel in early IS3 startings cuz hibi healing is done when she raises her staff whereas ansel healing is after he throws the stuff and the stuff flies to the one being healed
Actually is Sa bird affected by travel in his normal attack
no SA attacks are instantaneous the birb takes the same amount of time regardless of where the enemy is
Cuz the anim shows the birb from the sky instead of originating from him
Are you saying sa2 or 1
Afaik the bird animation doesn't come from SA's xy, it starts directly above the target
Does Sa2 has birb in normal attack
Then you got your answer already from the reply above; for sa2 bird only comes during s3
https://krooster.com/u/furaine_aiko-25 Who do yall think i should use the instant skill m3 on
for which rarity?
If jts the 4 star m3 ticket, ethan for the most part
This is very interesting and very close to what got me curious with this. Was having fun with Mon3ter on SSS and with 3 sniper buffs she wasn't at all more effective, probably bcs she had to wait for the construct to lose at least 1hp before the next healing.
Not at all a problem ofc, SSS is supposed to be weird and fun, but got me curious on the mechanic
alr
Is dmitri good from what we’ve seen so far?
Baner drops on 10th
wait for numbers
Not really, at least arguable
ah
His kit is basically dmg if that's what you want to know, kit in #cn-lounge
saw a vid on twitter with his gameplay 
It's gonna be a vignette for him right
I'm betting on s2 usage
Wht not s3 
Can’t find it in pins
feeling
Also e2 your provisio
I can't open the pins right now (discord mobile shenanigans) but when does sa2's banner start?
Thought they pinned it mb
#cn-lounge message
Ascalon's Module X is just more slow while Module Y is more damage and evasion, right?
mod x lv1 and stop
Jj is a captain now 
Dmitri talent 2

shit gains
Ah gotcha, ty
flametail powercreep 🥹
Ew ew ew 🤮
I picked ray for the exceptional appointment, I dont see her in my list is she supposed to be support or..
I think she's supposed to be support but let someone else confirm
Yes, if you don't have the unit yourself, you need to find a friend that can let you borrow her
😭 bruh.
that is..
Is ray even a good pick for the event
I heard aoe ops are the best
I dont want to use meta ops, kinda bored well ray is kinda meta less meta than wis
Meta is meta, be it less or more than wis
Aoe is good, yes
But it won't really decide everything
I'm still doing great with Saki
Mobbing down trash mobs became less of a problem as you progress since you have access to Entel
So you will also want just high dmg in general to handle the actual threats, like boss or the crocs that spawn from Forest
whats the best op to get from exceptional appointment? wis?
Any particular reasons as to why you're using forests ?
It's free 20% atk
team trees
Why would i waste my slot on Rocks or Bush?
Didn't try it yet, i might
Rocks and river good for mob density methink
HOW DO I BEAT THIS DUMB MAP 12-19
Like VRO NO MATTER HOW EARLY I SPOT THE GUY ON THE RIGHT, HE’LL JUST WALTZ THROUGH PASS EVERYONE
bro doesn't know
Rock is just 20% HP, and even then it's placement is awkward
Since it takes the same slot that other spawning equipment does so you result in less enemy to kill and gather resources from
River is good
Oh I have my Sakiko
To handle them later on, I just want my 3 stars

I'll play around a bit with forests and see how it feels
It’s JUST THIS ONE GUY
the reason why the spies are going through your ops is because that guy is alive
Have yoh read his info? He makes unidentified civs unblockable as long as he's alive
23/24
enemy description moment 
6384929th guy to struggle on a stage cuz didn't read 
I usually just brute forced everything
got game mechanic checked
yea
does anyone know why there is deviation of chen's hit count for tile cordinates
idk
Does Silence's medical drone s2 summon count as a unit deploy?
Should be mentioned in her kit no? 
Issues solved 
any upcoming banners that make this not worth?
thorns alt makes this not worth 
I don’t think you can get enough defender/supporter chips if you don’t use village+rock
I don't see it saying. But I'm known to be blind
Yeah if it was 23/24 with that guy left on tol the unidentified civ was safe 
save for upcoming limited
kk
Burst fucking enemy at left top corner or use someone ranged to reveal the enemy
Brochacho dealt with 
Hi y'all can someone tell me the optimal way to play ascalon ? Skill 2 or 3 and wich module plsss 🙏
If it's skill based I doubt it takes a slot, although its not mentioned indeed
I don't even use Rock to max
Fae does silence drone take deployment slots?
i assume its 50/50 for suzuran?
Most of the ops dont take deployment limit unless it's summoners except eblana
Using Class specific gathering tool is outdated
It's all about spamming the one that gives you all resources outright
slot not deploy limit
That, or guaranteed ifrit
on which operator should i use it? (ignore the lvl 1 ulpianus)
Thx guys ❤️
I already have ifrit, so its gamba ig
summon clogging your deployment waiting list only matter in SSS anyway
Gold cert pulls refresh monthly right?
Also matters in RM cuz now i need to click an additional button to deploy my shits
Ah ok I guess river plus 3x3 detector just gives everything
Methinks raise ulpi and use on him
Would hold it
All your expensive skills are already on way to mastery
Ulpianus S3 isn't that expensive relatively
Deprio Thorns/Blaze
Consider just not finishing their masteries its not worth it atp
Dose the story have 0 sanity cost from chapter 10-16?
No, that's only the lowest difficulty mode unless i'm mistaken
the only reason i dont have m3s is bc i have training room on lvl 2
Nah, they still cost sanity, more if you play on the highest diff
The lowest diff still gives originium right?
Well why not get to 3
You have some base issues 
I don't think so, no
It's basically trial mode
Nope
Downgrade dorms, or factory and upgrade TR to lv3
Not leveling training room for max left???
Crap
Too bad then thanks tho
Can you show us your base if possible
oh thanks i forgot u could do that
I hope its not 333
Might be a good idea to send us a screenshot of your base, just in case
Betting on 243
im lazy to get that 10 reinforced building material lowk
Would 243 or 333 even need TR2 tho
That would be fine considering their lack of awareness about base 
243 should have more than enough power lol, unless all of then are lv1 or somethin
Well it’s either that or like have weaker operators
243 should have 810, which is enough to max everything 20k ambience max right max left
Dont tell me just 1 power plant
pls send pic fast
i do think it's 252
252 max left but lv3 rr or office me thinks XD
223 bet
The famed 522
531 
153 😭
💀
Sooo nobody won that round 🥀 🥀
Orundum crafting ahh machine
Bro must love his bars
Now they aren’t gonna send it 
proof or it never happened
i dont know how to change the factories bro
Nuh uh, orundum base has 2 tps, you need money
I did call the 1 power plant
elysium S1 or S2?
Downgrade until gone
S1 for DP get, s2 for whatever the sigma s2 does
1, 2 for invis reveal me thinks
What 153 actually?
S1 as main dp-gen. S2 if over than enough dp-gen(can replace tbh)
1 power plant 5 fact 3 tp
No, 1 TP 5 fac 3 pp
That one power plant carrying the entirety of the land ship or sumn
Which is very cursed
