help

[royal swan]

i personally would go m3 logos ascalon(i actually did pick this and pull), goes well with sakiko and is the newest operator of the 6 so is prob gonna be the one that's takes the longest for shop

[urban sleet]

If no phy boss killer: ray and logos
If yes phy boss killer: asca and logos

[dull estuary]

Is sakiko considered a boss killer

[royal swan]

btw avoid speculation for cert shop stuff here as well, that comes under rule 5 also

[valid violet]

which ray mod is preferred?

[buoyant sigil]

if I don’t have a good caster and click is just not cutting it do I raise rockrock or can I rely on surtr/saki/mutsumi?
newer player speaking

[urban sleet]

Saying which op will debut in cert shop soon is fine

[obsidian inlet]

Is there any good?

[urban sleet]

Provisio if you don't have her

[winter crystal]

Provi rockrock and whoever

[royal swan]

im pretty sure i got warned for this earlier but if its fine then no worries

[dull estuary]

Thankfully for me I own 3 of the 6 5 stars

[winter crystal]

It would say owned if they did yeah so they have none

[frosty verge]

Oh? Its now?

[glossy schooner]

Yeah

[frosty verge]

Who should i pick? I dont have ANY of them

[urban sleet]

regular #help mofs wouldn't, one of them even said month for sa2 banner

[dull estuary]

Yeah ive been waiting all day for this and only just sat down for ut

[buoyant sigil]

I am fairly sure surtr helidrop is great but I have to rely on range extension cope for maps with multiple lanes

[royal swan]

proviso and it doesn't matter after (honestly pick the ones u have closest to max pot for the extra gold certs)

if ur missing all, almond and figurino are usable for base, rockrock is a usable caster if u need one and tippi is ok but good enough options in click and contrail exist among to 4* so i wouldn't build them even if i did get them

[urban sleet]

Check pins
Consider ray if no physical boss killer

[royal swan]

SA2 banner is fine cuz limited banners go on a strict schedule more or less, so its not really speculation there

[dull estuary]

Well i just got asca

Was kinda hoping for monst3r but for my first 10 thats great

[obsidian inlet]

Thx

[ruby knoll]

Any and all combination that involves Thorns2 or Hoederer automatically makes this banner abysmal.
But I am willing to take that risk. If I had to pick one, which one will be pick for now?

[thorn token]

Should I go for it with 40k orundum?

[dull estuary]

Whats asca good at

[severe crypt]

Heavy slow and dot

[dull estuary]

Same lol exactly 40k

[urban sleet]

Both are bad for general content, hoederer atleast sees use in is5

[thorn token]

crazy hahah

[buoyant sigil]

[ruby knoll]

Alright thank you.

[royal swan]

hoederer has use in high end IS5 specifically as the best guard to draft outside of guard vanguard strats and is still good in guard vanguard as well

thorns is a fun archetype and not a bad unit for general content if u enjoy the stuff he does but isn't really meta

[dull estuary]

Whats the deal should I go all in

[winter crystal]

From my understanding saying something should come up soon “tm” is fine but giving a time frame like your example of 1 month is a no no

[wanton meadow]

Welp so i got mon3tr at 70 and still didn't get proviso

[opal depot]

who should i pick as a third if i have logos already? (mon3tr and ascalon already picked)

[royal swan]

pins cover this,ray

[urban sleet]

Saki works, worst case take the band's help

[thorn token]

👉 👈

[dull estuary]

Fr I want an answer too

[buoyant sigil]

Alright then!! Good to know

[dull estuary]

Ive got asca but i still want monst3r

[urban sleet]

Ray is the only valid choice, stay away from thorns2 and hoederer

[turbid ocean]

@royal swan @urban sleet
its fine to say what debut op order is - since it happens in operator release order 99% of the time
but debut order doesn't tell you the actual order of gold cert shop since reruns are weaved in at Yostar's discretion, so saying xyz will be next, or in x weeks is not allowed

[odd sky]

i wouldn't pull if you already have logos

[echo venture]

save for next limited banner
@dull estuary you too

[royal swan]

gotcha, thanks for clarification

[thorn token]

alr thx whats the next?

[dull estuary]

So no more rolling at all 😔

[echo venture]

silverash alter is next limited

[royal swan]

i assume it would also be fine to post the list of operators that haven't debuted in the shop yet in order for people to see as well? since that isn't really speculation

[dull estuary]

Let me have a look at the next limited is shes cool ill just do 1 more 10

[turbid ocean]

as long as it doesn't include speculative dates

[sly compass]

I'm choosing my RM strategy, and I don't know these 6* except Surtr. Which ones of these are good aoe?

[turbid ocean]

i usually use akgcc to view that

[thorn token]

And if I already have normal SilverAsh P2 l60?

[odd sky]

entellechia is reaper

[urban sleet]

Unrelated to silverash alter

[signal dragon]

then you'll have max trust on sa alt

[dull estuary]

Oh thats what the limited looks like I mean hes alright ig how good is he

[urban sleet]

Goes for all alters

[sly compass]

gotcha so probably insanely strong for huge aoe waves that sometimes healers can't hit

[lyric jewel]

why does the orienteering pull recommendation say to not pull below 150? why 150?

[severe crypt]

Almost all alters do different things than their original counterpart

[echo venture]

different classes. also silverash is from 2020.
newer units tend to be stronger/ more useful

[urban sleet]

Safety net for upciming limited banner

[glad raptor]

So.. For my own sanity without gambling, i decided to do only 10 pull and got rayray, i love it cuz i lacked on ranged unit, wich one should i replaced for rayray

[signal dragon]

Myrtle

[glad raptor]

Ight bet

[thorn token]

didn`t know I can play kroos and kroos alter at the same time

[urban sleet]

Simce you like myrtle, canta

[opal depot]

i want mon3tr a lot all good i got ascelon, mon3tr and ray in 30 insane luck XD

[glad raptor]

A

[urban sleet]

You can, the restrictions were removed years ago

[teal heart]

Yo did I miss that togawa banner??

[signal dragon]

yes

[teal heart]

My slumber will continue until silverash then

[royal swan]

Operators that haven't debuted in the shop yet in the order they released in
Note that while shop operators typically debut in the order they released in, this order does get moved around every now and then at Yostar's discretion so bear that in mind. Orienteering banner 6* are bolded.

Typhon
Jessica Alter
Hoederer
Vivianna
Degenbrecher
Ray
Zuo Le
Ascalon
Logos
Ulpianus
Nymph
Siege Alter
Thorns Alter
Entelecchia
Necrass
Mon3tr
Lemuen
Tragodia
Leizi Alter
Haruka

[odd sky]

damn first name basis with skk

[urban sleet]

Or yk wake up and start saving pulls

[teal heart]

I have a bunch of pulls I just don't feel like playing

[turbid ocean]

Is it necessary to paste it all here

instead of linking the resource

[urban sleet]

sure you do you

[odd latch]

Does Uika's S2 hit air?

[royal swan]

i couldn't find it, could u link it instead actually (prob worth adding in the pins as well if it isn't already imo but up to you)

[glad raptor]

Is rayray still good?

[royal swan]

oh nvm i see it

[odd sky]

not worth adding to pins

[turbid ocean]

https://akgcc.github.io/shoplist/

Past shop operator + debut order

As for things like banners the most you are allowed to say is when a banner was in CN and for the order was it was on CN specifically given that you note that it was CN order, its in #bot-spam /cnbanner
For limited banners since they occur during a similar time of the year saying tentatively SilverAsh2 might be around April or May is okay
But to go as far as to narrow it down to a certain part of a certain month e.g. Early May will fall under speculation

[odd sky]

when is bellone again

[plain hemlock]

pretty sure it does but lemme check 1 sec

[urban sleet]

His banner drops on 10th iirc

[odd latch]

Aight

[brazen gulch]

https://www.krooster.com/u/elenakrittik can someone suggest my next e2 target if we ignore surtr and sash? they're all so nice and i just can't decide. if there are some crucial modules i missed please let me know as well

[dull estuary]

I got both ascalon and logos and not monst3r which is who I wanted

[royal swan]

unfortunate but still 2 good units, it do be like that when u gamble on stuff

[urban sleet]

Leizi2 and ascalon

[royal swan]

ascalon or leizi2 ye

[grand wigeon]

Does anyone have any graph on examples with how ASPD works and example of how fast someone could attack with mon3 s2

[odd sky]

leizi2 ascalon
e1 purestream roberta perfumer quartz for base

[buoyant sigil]

To what level should I raise mon3? Do I e2/60/sl7 her as a priority for now? I have a feeling she’s my priority to raise rn

[brazen gulch]

the e1s are for base?

[urban sleet]

E2 lvl 60 goes for all 6 stars tbh

[grand wigeon]

She’s worth the investment so go for it

[buoyant sigil]

Neat

[brazen gulch]

alright thanks people. will go with ascalon first because story relevance and i already have mlynar

[plain hemlock]

it can

[odd latch]

It's so small I barely noticed it 😭 thank you

[odd sky]

that's... what she said

[snow siren]

hey, what class is Leizi?

[winter crystal]

Guard (the alter?)

[odd sky]

caster, or leizi alter?

[brazen gulch]

leizi1 is chain caster, leizi2 is liberator guard

[snow siren]

ok thanks

[dull estuary]

Who out of the 6★ here should I prioritise (after surtr)

[gleaming sigil]

who do I raise first if I'm not having difficulty with general content and play IS a lot, ray or surfer?

[brazen gulch]

we'll never know 😔

[urban sleet]

Ray

[gleaming sigil]

okie dokie thank youu

[winter crystal]

Logos then ascalon but you can E1 ascalon while you E2 logos bc her main skill is S2

[dull estuary]

Ok

[winter crystal]

I would also skip surtr and go right for the logos ascalon plan first btw

[dull estuary]

Oh alright

[snow siren]

how hard is raidian to get?

[winter crystal]

Free

[subtle dawn]

Ok guys so ik I was told to pick monster, ray and logos but like ray seems kinda bad and ascalon looks kinda good so idk anymore

[dull estuary]

Man I got lost on the gacha high and spent all my saving trying to get monst3r 😔

[snow siren]

yeah. I know but how hard is she to get?

[dull estuary]

Didnt even get her either i got the other w

[severe crypt]

That seems is working overtime on ur end

[winter crystal]

It’s ok for new accounts damage is much more important plus logos in general is the best op you could get on that banner

[fluid egret]

is there a resource for knowing what masteries are good for an operator?

[subtle dawn]

Ok I will just pick ray logos and monster and see what happens

[silver smelt]

id say mon3tr is the best there but

[dull estuary]

Im happy about that but man monster looks so cool whens her next rerun if shes getting one any time soon

[winter crystal]

Easy plus you can borrow ops when running IS6. Maxing her out is another story tho

[silver smelt]

go ascalon > ray unless you have her already

[subtle dawn]

And for 5 stars I pick proviso, rock rock and who else?

[snow siren]

isnt IS pretty difficult? I havent even gotten any of the IS operators
I havent even completed an IS

[glad raptor]

How do u play rayray

[subtle dawn]

Nah I'm new and my only 6 stars are silver ash mountain and surtr

[pearl forge]

what is the purpose of rockrock?

[winter crystal]

Not really some are harder then others IS6 is difficult for newbies but it’s not one of the hardest ISs, IS5 is typically the easiest.

This game mode is also has hard as you make it as you can set the difficulty as you play more of it

[snow siren]

ok.

[fluid egret]

IS6's the first run is pretty hard, especially not knowing the stages.

Once you beat the first run, you can get maxed support Raidian in one of the squads, which you can then use to clear most of content to an extent with Raidian + 1 support operator carry.

[subtle dawn]

What is IS do I have it unlocked?

[winter crystal]

Best arts damage from a caster of all 5 stars but that’s also comparing her to only 5 stars

[raven ermine]

At low difficulty one carry can be enough for a lot of them
It's mostly a knowledge check so just play and see what's going on

[royal swan]

sakiko module asap

then logos/ascalon/surtr, would do ascalon e1, logos e2 before doing surtr like killari said ye

[winter crystal]

I think you need to play a little bit of story mode but once you unlock it you unlock all ISs

[signal dragon]

integrated strategies, in the long term exploration tab. unlocks after 3-8

[tiny abyss]

Higuys I got Asca how does one use her

[coarse notch]

put her down press s2 win

[subtle dawn]

Oh ok imma get that quick then I'm 3-4 rn

[frank wing]

What ascalon skill should I m3, and which module?

[raven ermine]

You drop her, press s2, watch ground enemies die of cringe

[coarse notch]

s2m3 modx1

[silver smelt]

S2m3 modx1

[subtle dawn]

Also what 5 stars do I pick in the new banner?

[slate surge]

do i pick logos, ray and mon3tr to fit in team or ascalon is a better replacement?

[frank wing]

ty

[dull estuary]

Where is modules again

[royal swan]

if u have sufficient physical dmg operators, i'd say logos mon3tr ascalon is a better combo to go for, ray is if u need a physical boss killer

[raven ermine]

logos ray ascalon imo

[dull estuary]

Is that like skill upgrades

[urban sleet]

Can go with those three if you have no physical boss killer

[winter crystal]

Logos Ray ascalon you have healing with Haruka

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah haruka, yeah go with asca

[dull estuary]

Oh that thing

[royal swan]

i mean mon3tr isn't picked for healing, she's picked for her buffs, the healing is just a bonus

[glass cipher]

what should i do if i just want to quickly spend my sanity rn cuz no event stages

[slate surge]

i thought mon3tr is a great buffer

[winter crystal]

No skin

[frank wing]

she is

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't prioritize module over e2ing logos

[tiny abyss]

Wtf I have 0 polyketon

[royal swan]

sakiko needs mod 2 minimum

[raven ermine]

Yes and buffing need good targets to have any value
And in gen content, buffing your ops is just a win more situation

[winter crystal]

Yes but you are not bringing two healers in your squad it’s redundant so since you already have Haruka get the other ops

[dull estuary]

It says I need to beat some stage in IS-7 aren't we on 6

[tiny abyss]

Il Siracusano

[royal swan]

she is yes, imo mon3tr is the best pick of the bunch especially if u have sakiko, they synergize pretty well

[royal swan]

that's il siracusano, it says so as well, its a side event under sette colli's sprouts, the one that has vigil as the reward, its not integrated strategies which is the IS6 ur thinking of

[dull estuary]

Yh thats the stages name

[tiny abyss]

That's event name

[dull estuary]

Ooh

[urban sleet]

If you think you will use her aspd buffs you can get her

[tiny abyss]

It's in side stories, Sette Colli's Sprouts

[dull estuary]

Ok i get it now

[tiny abyss]

Also Jessicat event record restoration

[winter crystal]

For the record you’re lacking damage be it arts or physical (physical more) especially when you have a top tier healer already going for another isn’t recommended

[frail lynx]

Should i build Mon3 or Ascalon first?

[coarse notch]

mon3tr

[winter crystal]

Ascalon functions just fine E1 since S2 is main skill, you’re lacking damage and S3 on monster will help (S2 buffs)

[raven ermine]

They're not lacking damage tho

[teal parcel]

why i cant use ticket if its not 10 for multi pull on this game ...

[robust thistle]

you;re lacking damage 😭

[coarse notch]

mon3tr is e1 max already

[robust thistle]

you can, wdym

[winter crystal]

Well not a full squad of damage

[robust thistle]

it just automatically uses orundum to make it a 10pull

[urban sleet]

Click on pull not on the ticket in depot

[royal swan]

if u have for example, 7 pull tickets, it uses them + 1800 orundum when u 10 pull, the icon just indicates that ur also spending orundum

[raven ermine]

This is not the standard for damage lol
mlynar surtr sakiko hoshi2 are plenty for basically everything in gen content
Damage is good here

[royal swan]

they're prob confused cuz the icon shows orundum while the single pull icon shows the ticket

[teal parcel]

ah yes, the icon mislead me it says 6000 orundum

[robust thistle]

I mean thats how much a 10pull costs

[winter crystal]

Ok well technically none of those ops are needed for gen content

Eventually, end goal full meta squad he’s lacking though

[robust thistle]

you couldnt do that in the past but they changed it, they just didnt bother to change the text

[silver smelt]

this is a silly convo

theyll just get more units over time lmao

[robust thistle]

is this some kind of weird genre of elitism I'm not familiar with

[urban sleet]

Does logos s2 see any use these days

[raven ermine]

Not that i know of

[robust thistle]

does logos S2 see any use ever?

[coarse notch]

no

[urban sleet]

Idk stuff before 2026

Or for content beyond general content

[reef sparrow]

logos only have 2 skills

[robust thistle]

unless you wanna do like harry potter beam struggle rp with mandra, idt it has any use

[silver smelt]

it saw use in ccb4 max risk afaik

[robust thistle]

didnt they just end up using S3

[urban sleet]

Sounds good enough

[reef sparrow]

is there any ops that has s1 as their main skill?

[coarse notch]

logos got deported from max risk anyways

[urban sleet]

Myrtlr

[robust thistle]

I forgot if its s2 or s3, I only remember hermitz bemoaning logos talent RNG being shit
something something 7sp 7sp 7sp

[reef sparrow]

ok let's not include vgs

[robust thistle]

saria

[silver smelt]

true but when he was there i think it was s2

[reef sparrow]

fair

[frank wing]

3 stars

[raven ermine]

tbf when saria is relevant it's s3

But she's not, so 🥱

[gleaming sigil]

is ray's module worth it? or should i just save my LMD for sash and pram? (i have 800k left)

[echo venture]

hey

[coarse notch]

worth it, just not super high prio

[echo venture]

i dont remember malding logos

i always glazed him since day 0

[robust thistle]

huh who was it then, I forgot

oh its kermot

[coarse notch]

heidi

[echo venture]

that i rmb of

[frank wing]

his talent is rng

[gleaming sigil]

okay ill probably just level her to 60 just in case then. thanks!

[echo venture]

which talent

[odd sky]

yea kermot did mald logos

[robust thistle]

the one that procs his necrosis

[frank wing]

1st I think, idk I don't have him

[urban sleet]

Meteor too iirc

[robust thistle]

no necrosis = no kill

[marble viper]

[boreal steeple]

Also whats the bot to check every characters dps?

[echo venture]

pallas

[reef sparrow]

so basically useless ops have s1 as their main skill

[robust thistle]

strongest guard dps skill

[subtle dawn]

Any usable characters here? This is my team, I usually have surtr instead of scavenger

[boreal steeple]

Even hoe? Damn

[robust thistle]

yeah the one you just got

[marble viper]

surfer

[urban sleet]

Meteor sees use in some is5 ending iirc

[raven ermine]

https://ark-dps.com/
It's been a while since i was around, so i'm not sure how accurate this one has been determined to be

[reef sparrow]

I did exclude vgs, since most of them do have s1 as main

[royal swan]

boss killing and self res, it was used in the last cc for example

[slate surge]

what's the point of rockrock, her base skill only?

[reef sparrow]

good thing to hear, I'm glad I have her s1m3

[raven ermine]

No she's good arts for new players

[royal swan]

are we including lower rarity cuz there's a bunch

[coarse notch]

greyyalt, argument for hoederer and qb, eyjalt, meteor, kafka may

[frank wing]

is there anyone specific that i should use the 4 star m3 ticket on

[reef sparrow]

I just realized, 4* do have a lot

[tidal pond]

is it just me or is arts not that good? from what i've seen almost all high-end content focuses on getting past high def with even higher atk + utility

[reef sparrow]

oh greyyalt main is now s1?

[coarse notch]

was always s1 in IS

you dont really use him outside of IS so

[reef sparrow]

never used him in IS so fair enough

[royal swan]

depends on what u mean

in IS with the collectibles u get ur atk becomes insanely high and physical scales better than arts with that

arts is still used in CC and against say chapter 15 boss if u aren't using true dmg or elemental

[marble viper]

wang would like to disagree

[royal swan]

oh yea eyja alt is a good example for 6*

[blissful saffron]

Which chars should you pick for the new selector banner ?

[coarse notch]

generally yes, hence why casters are a pepega voucher in IS outside of two operators

[royal swan]

arts is good even in higher tier story/event content

[urban sleet]

Turn back a few years and surtr would like to join the disagreement club

[royal swan]

ethan s2 if u haven't masteried it at all

[echo venture]

logos. strongest caster

[raven ermine]

It's actually way easier to bypass high res than it is to bypass high def tho
Not to mention Ceobe which scales with stat bloats

[subtle dawn]

I'm talking about the other characters 😭

[royal swan]

yea, outside of IS like content where u get absurdly high atk so physical scales better, arts is just better against high res + def combos

[jolly seal]

3 with pram2

[royal swan]

paprika for base if u dont have any of the other 3rd slots for shamare + tequila trading post team

[raven ermine]

Basically why we see ifrit/suzu/ceobe combo in some CCs and everywhere in RAcc

[coarse notch]

its just logos and pramalt

[jolly seal]

nymph cope trust

[coarse notch]

[subtle dawn]

What about for stages and stuff

[woven fjord]

Nymph when speccast drafts trag anyway

[coarse notch]

speccast is just specspec

[silver smelt]

some others are fine enroute in certain is

[woven fjord]

Specsup

[formal shadow]

Spec sup best class

[royal swan]

the others are 3* and 4* so u will get all of them eventually, none of those are woth talking about

i think record keeper was used for some IS3 strat altho i might be wrong lemme double check

[formal shadow]

Schizo ass strat

[coarse notch]

rather take nowell

[royal swan]

actually no he's not i lied, i mixed him up with nowell yea

[subtle dawn]

I also got almond in my first multi

[royal swan]

useful for base

90% of the 5* pool is not worth building so expect a similar reply

[golden vortex]

Is Ascalon or Thorns the Lodestar woth building if this is my current team

[subtle dawn]

Also do you guys usually run one caster or two?

[coarse notch]

zero

[odd sky]

zero

[jolly seal]

cuz status res

[coarse notch]

one is usually enough, just adapt your squad to the stage

[royal swan]

ascalon is always worth building

[jolly seal]

1 - logos

[tiny abyss]

I run a medic instead

[raven ermine]

Ew

[subtle dawn]

😭

[azure thorn]

Can anyone please explain how rebuilding mandate gacha works? I just got reed alter and penance from it's gacha, yet it just said "unowned" and did not give me them
However, when I got thorns and fia, it gave me both right away, even though I don't own them

[odd sky]

we'll only run pram2 soon cuz she eats general content

[tidal pond]

0, unless i need their utility for something. their dmg usually isn't great. examples include laptop for her global range+silence, or necrass when you need big CC/laneholding energy with limited deployment slots

[silver smelt]

and hard content too wdym

[raven ermine]

I haven't kept up to date for a bit but pram seemed good for both with s3
Does she have any usage in hard content or is the RA taunt not enough ?

[boreal steeple]

Use support and thorns and fia are both from second banner there, so they don't count as "not owned"

[stone dawn]

Who should I prioritise building?

[formal shadow]

Logos

[coarse notch]

interesting account

[burnt cedar]

logos tragodia mon3tr

[glass panther]

I'm saving up for silver alter raghh

[azure thorn]

Buh, alr thanks

[winter crystal]

Logos, you could cheaply E1 monster while you E2 logos so you can use her main skill S2

[silver smelt]

She's in 3/4 of HCM max risk records

[glass panther]

Should I or should I not

[silver smelt]

Yes, you should save

[boreal steeple]

Pram alter has usage literally everywhere

[left void]

chat please tell me we get something else apart from this event the next 20 days

[formal shadow]

Yeah pramalter is surprisingly strong

[tidal pond]

trag is usable at e1, i'd go for logos SA monter

[native cargo]

Does selection standard banner pity get carry over to next standard sleection banner ?

[subtle dawn]

Damn I was happy for pulling logos but now I'm sad 😔

[royal swan]

pins cover this, read and decide

[raven ermine]

Using s3 ?
Did s2 see any usage ?
She did seem very good during pv

[silver smelt]

Feel like there's mass psychosis because people immediately peg her as genslop because s2 is good in gencontent

[boreal steeple]

Both skills are nice tho

[tidal pond]

logos is an outlier, his 2nd module makes him do necrosis (basically true damage), so he's able to squeeze out much more dps than your standard caster.

[royal swan]

logos is good, what teams people run depends on what they own on their accounts and logos should be in ur main 12 for quite a while anyway

[subtle dawn]

😃

[formal shadow]

S2 is a solid skill outside afk slop though I don't know which is used more

[raven ermine]

Well i have a bit of a hard time figuring how s2 would be used in more stat bloaty content ngl

[silver smelt]

its usually s3

maybe with sash and pram gnosis draft is realer

[abstract mauve]

all 3 of her skills are used

[formal shadow]

I thought s2 was used cause of the snow tile spread

[abstract mauve]

that plays a role ye

[boreal steeple]

Dw, logos still one of the best. And was one of the best units in ccb4. Its just the uptime of skills and enemy stats that don't require running casters

[boreal steeple]

Wait s1 where

[abstract mauve]

it's just that bro is lowkey washed

[raven ermine]

Good to know, i was more excited for pram than sashter tbf

[formal shadow]

Btw how does pramalt work in patriot stage phase 2? I'm confused on that one

[abstract mauve]

s1 used in is3 ed4 starve and in is6 ed2 left side

[woven fjord]

Is3*

[abstract mauve]

is3* yee

[modest magnet]

hi yall guess who came home within 20 pulls

[formal shadow]

I might wait for pramalt to go for no feed is3

[modest magnet]

is she good...... (i only started playing again this week after a year or so)

[woven fjord]

Solving 2 lanes at e1 in a dead voucher is

[hoary ocean]

Is U official operator still obtainable?

[formal shadow]

Wait till April 1st

[burnt cedar]

you'll get her on april fools

[hoary ocean]

Oh that's awesome!

[silver smelt]

Yes she's good

[boreal steeple]

#salt-mines
And yeah she's good as atk/aspd buffer and has best true dmg rn

[silver smelt]

does mon3tr get drafted in is6

[teal parcel]

Thank god, should I go for logos guys? 2 multi so far

[formal shadow]

Is6 🚮

[silver smelt]

just save for sash2 banner

[boreal steeple]

Meh, dies on ed2, and dies on ed1. Ed3 not enough heal

[modest magnet]

ogiiii

[teal parcel]

Alright

[silver smelt]

does she do anything enroute

[formal shadow]

I doubt well enough to be worth the hope drain

[boreal steeple]

I would save tbh. You just roll 0.66% for logos when you can just roll pots on them instead (which you don't want rn)

[woven fjord]

She has more then enough heal for ed3, she’s extremely relevant in DLC2 as well

[formal shadow]

[silver smelt]

For ed5?

[teal parcel]

since im newbie, building ascalon should be not priorty right guys? focusing on main role first

[woven fjord]

Yes

[boreal steeple]

Yeah dlc2 is
They throw bunch of enemies so she's good there

[signal dragon]

she's fine at E1 with s2

[formal shadow]

How's kal is mod in is6?

[boreal steeple]

Used sometimes on ed3

[sudden lotus]

How do you spawn in this tower

[silver smelt]

can she handle left lane in enhanced ed2

[teal parcel]

i use ptilopsis and perfumer as healer, with addition of monster i should bench perfumer right?

[woven fjord]

Fuh no

[abstract mauve]

that deployable facing a forest

[gray mulch]

You put a forest in front of it

[formal shadow]

Ed2 left lane is screwed 🥀

[sudden lotus]

Is that wat the extra tile is for?

[silver smelt]

they somehow made ed2 left lane worse

[boreal steeple]

Negative dmg for leaks omg

[woven fjord]

She was good before dlc2 because she was ur ground presence but m3 takes her spot as medic draft. M3 and reedic do anyway

[neon siren]

So the unowned operators i have are support units only which I can't level? I got happy for a sec 😭

[formal shadow]

Fair

[gray mulch]

Bruh being able to roll ops you don't own in RM is so fucked

[neon siren]

Exactly.
It's a pain in the ass

[abstract mauve]

maybe own more ops tech

[boreal steeple]

Wtf

[woven fjord]

If by enhanced you’re referring to the alter version then it doesn’t actually matter that much because the stage has a killgate

[neon siren]

Somehow I'm able to use thorns when I don't have him but can't use all the others

[dawn canyon]

Which skill should be mastery for hoshi alter?

[woven fjord]

You can just infinitely stall an enemy and then focus ur entire team on repositioning and killing the boss

[formal shadow]

S3

[neon siren]

What?

[boreal steeple]

Cuz he's from second banner

[gray mulch]

It's just for the special appoints yeah

[abstract mauve]

ops gained from the recruitment packs arent subject to the restriction

[neon siren]

Oh yea shit.

[boreal steeple]

I'm jealous cuz i got only viviana from those 40 rolls

[severe crypt]

Wait a minute, my hool curses are more powerful now

[neon siren]

I got waay to many 6stars,I'm using 3 rn, and a few I didn't touch yet

[severe crypt]

Wait you can pull kernel ops here right

[formal shadow]

Fartooth be upon you

[next socket]

Which 3 should I choose?

[neon siren]

Ascalon logos monster

[raven ermine]

Btw what's the consensus on ARKdps if there is one ? It was pretty new when i stopped keeping up, but how accurate/inaccurate is it ?

[formal shadow]

Is that the bot?

[raven ermine]

That's https://ark-dps.com/

[neon siren]

He's from your server tho same tags sm

[abstract mauve]

[raven ermine]

It was discussed a bit, but i would assume it's pretty inaccurate ngl

[formal shadow]

I didn't know they made a new dps calculator

[teal parcel]

guys is monster filling the 2 slot of healer for newbie? i use ptilo and perfumer

[raven ermine]

It's a few months old

[neon siren]

Yes, but that's still subjective.

[formal shadow]

To be fair even viktorlab had some inaccuracies

[abstract mauve]

i asked light and theacc back then and they said it seemed aight

[teal parcel]

bench perfumer right?

[shadow bay]

try it for ursefl... if u can survive with monster as sole healer much better, since thats 1 free slot for a dps

[abstract mauve]

it does have some innacurate totals it feels but it seems fine

[silver smelt]

arkdps makes some questionable assumptions

[neon siren]

Yea ig so

[raven ermine]

Well i'm using their calcs more often than not, so i'll assume it's fine-ish for getting an idea

[abstract mauve]

that's why it has conditions

[formal shadow]

Yeah should be. Certain ops might be a bit wack though

[raven ermine]

That's pretty much what i figured

[teal parcel]

will try, since i also slot uika in for sakiko

[formal shadow]

I hate how dps calculators do warf s1 hps :realmad:

[silver smelt]

Yeah of course just dont go quoting their numbers blindly
Helpchat thought sakiko had 300k total damage on 1 s3 for a solid couple days

[boreal steeple]

300k with fever. 170 without

[heady moon]

Whats the mastery for mon3tr?

[abstract mauve]

mmmmmm yes the help chat always doing naughty things

[raven ermine]

This was not helpchat
We all knew it was fever numbers day one

[boreal steeple]

S2 and s3

[silver smelt]

Yeah which is what they forgot to check
They were saying 1 s3 is 300k damage, not 1 Fever s3 is 300k damage

[mental gull]

What does my team lack?

[formal shadow]

That sounds like skill issue on interpreting results

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you stumbled on the bad apple yeah

[heady moon]

Oh 2 skills? Which one is used more?

[boreal steeple]

Phys attacker ofc. Or arts buffer idk

[mental gull]

Who are the best phys attackers..?

[abstract mauve]

more broken 6*s (it's not really lacking in anything)

[humble nova]

how good is max pot confess robot

[wanton thorn]

Guys returning player here,which 6* and 5* do i need the most?

[pale tapir]

read pins
proviso

[boreal steeple]

You can just ignore. Cuz some enemies can have absolute insane res so just saying

[mental gull]

Yeah but just in case that happens.. who are the best phys ops?

[raven ermine]

Exu2, wis, mlynar, ray, lemuen, things like that

[mental gull]

Arts buffer like eyjafalla?

[abstract mauve]

im not sure what arts buffer even means

[raven ermine]

More like saria s3/ifrit i reckon
But for gen content that's so overkill

[mental gull]

Oh right yeah.. she just increases caster atk

[formal shadow]

Eyja caster buff real 🗣️

[royal swan]

proviso and the other 2 dont matter for 5*, rockrock if ur lacking arts but u have sakiko reedic and surtr so ur fine to pick whatever

[abstract mauve]

logos is a pretty good arts buffer. maybe they meant logos

[mental gull]

I alrdy have logos

[abstract mauve]

then that's all the arts buffer youll ever need

[royal swan]

that is true, logos buffs ur arts dmg output by replacing the actual caster u have and doing more dmg

[abstract mauve]

that and he literally buffs arts dps

[formal shadow]

1 + 1 < 2

[mental gull]

Ok so what my team lacks is phys.

[abstract mauve]

kinda but it doesnt matter for now

[formal shadow]

Most fights you can just brute force it

[raven ermine]

Somewhat yes
What your team lack is suzuran for the trifecta

[scenic yoke]

Since I am gonna pull for logos and monster who should I choose here

[mental gull]

what trifecta?

[wanton meadow]

Honestly who cares, you have tragodia and logos, you'll brute force thru basically anything

[formal shadow]

Doesn't really matter. You already have proviso

[sand folio]

About Mon3ter and Ray, do they want full investment like e2, mods and mastery?

[teal parcel]

guys as newbie is it wise to plan on sparking the silverash alt banner aiming for wisadel?

[formal shadow]

The rest are basically dead slots you wouldn't bother raising

[mental gull]

yeah but I want my team to be even better

Hmmm... would chen alter replace thorns?

[wanton meadow]

Atp what you want to optimise isn't general use, it's on stage by stage basis

[raven ermine]

Mostly a joke
But suzuran/logos/qiubai have funny interaction with 380k t.damage or smth

[mental gull]

oh damn

[formal shadow]

Quibai talent :roswao:

Most of that damage is still logos s3 with suzuran s3 fragile iirc

[abstract mauve]

you have
tragodia logos hosho2 sakiko haruka.
in the future if you can grab prama2 wang chen3 and maybe sash2 for vanguard you're golden

[wanton thorn]

How bout for 6*? Who do i need?

[raven ermine]

Your team being even better mean cutting the middle man, removing everything that isn't a red button operator, and cycling between nukes to completely stomp gen content
But who cares

[hidden wolf]

Is logos the best caster in the game

[hidden wolf]

Proviso

[formal shadow]

For now yeah

[abstract mauve]

caster? sure. arts damage? no

[mental gull]

would chen alter the summer one repalce thorns?

[abstract mauve]

she's maybe 16x better so sure

[formal shadow]

Might as well. Thorns pretty dead there

[abstract mauve]

wait you mean holungday? uhhh sure she can

chen2 is fine sniper if you have mod

[wanton meadow]

Thorns ain't finding any target to swing on anyway, everything in a 50km radius should be dead

[mental gull]

these are my other 6 stars... only chen the holungday makes it out to the team huh?

[royal swan]

check pins but if u need a physical dps u consider ray, otherwise just do logos mon3tr ascalon

[mental gull]

yeah... they'd all be taken care of in an instant by my other 6 stars. only use he has now is being a blocker with a special self healing mechanic but that's pretty obsolete

[jolly seal]

n eyja

[abstract mauve]

you are not building eyja

[raven ermine]

tf does eyja achieve exactly

[formal shadow]

Chalter is the only one I'd consider out of them and it's... not that great?

[royal swan]

honestly u can not build any of those and you'd be fine

[pale tapir]

look cute in her new outfit

[hidden wolf]

The global version follow the same path as china right? I mean banner release update etc

[mental gull]

but chalter...?

[formal shadow]

Not quite

[jolly seal]

washed

[raven ermine]

meh
Without module i wouldn't even consider her

[abstract mauve]

chalter is fine with new mod. nothing crazy

[raven ermine]

Eyja > yes
Chalter > no
The duality of man

[royal swan]

to an extent yes but not 100%, we get a few changes here there (like this orienteering banner in cn had ebenholz instead of thorns alt)

[mental gull]

she replaces thorns nonetheless

[formal shadow]

Chalter is washed I won't deny it

Definitely more usable though

[light latch]

How do supports work in the new event

[scenic yoke]

What are the odds, I pulled her 3 times now but none of the others

[hidden wolf]

Did silver ash alter banner come after this banner

[royal swan]

i mean for the cost it takes i would rather save for a better unit that u will prob pull down the line, thorns is already built

[jolly seal]

1/27

[abstract mauve]

damn lucky

[raven ermine]

Should've stopped at the first one

[royal swan]

silverash alter should be in april for us, limited banners follow a schedule that's close to fixed

[jolly seal]

to get her 3 times in a row when 6*

[scenic yoke]

That was the first and pulled her on a single row after

[random shard]

You could only get 1 of three 6* so it's 1/27 yes

[hidden wolf]

U should post this in salt mine

[pale tapir]

should I dump a ten and hope for almond or are the chances so low that I'd be huffing copium

[raven ermine]

Why would you want almond ?
Don't say base

[pale tapir]

cute
I've been chasing her for yrs

[scenic yoke]

Sorry was just actually curious about the odds

[lilac valve]

Is ascalon worth building if I already have my goat Ethan

[raven ermine]

erm
That's outside my area of expertise, i'm sorry 🥹

[boreal steeple]

1 < 2
1 + 1 = 2

[heady ruin]

is he any good

[pale tapir]

just say logos bruh no need for pic
we all know who logussy is

[jolly seal]

to get this exact pull its 0.05%chanche

if im not wrong😭

[heady ruin]

okay yeah then no need to ask if hes good if hes that famous 💀

[jolly seal]

best caster in game

[heady ruin]

which skill/mod for him?

[coarse notch]

nah its just that competent helpers here know every 6 star operator at least so

[pale tapir]

delta
s3
unless you like s1

[jolly seal]

s1 for afk, s3 for dps

[formal shadow]

Bro doesn't know 🥀

[coarse notch]

s3m3, delta3

[raven ermine]

s1 does not exist, s3m3

[pale tapir]

b-b-but think of the slimes he could annihilate

[formal shadow]

1 dps + 1 buffer < 2 dps
-#

[lilac valve]

Ok second question, is she worth it if I wanna keep this unfunny joke going

[coarse notch]

what is this unfunny joke

[pale tapir]

what joke

[raven ermine]

What's the unfunny joke exactly ?
Just raise your units please

[heady ruin]

I think I remember his s1 helping me afk vector breakthrough LOL

[tardy urchin]

those LS-4 slugs will not stand a chance 🤑 🤑 🤑

[pale tapir]

I mean if you don't need her don't raise her ig
like if you're a 4*knights player just leave her

[formal shadow]

One of the accounts of all time

[heady ruin]

i mean, yeah don't they do different purposes?

[slim tusk]

Meh just attention seeker

[sharp sandal]

should i pull for hoederer on the orienteering one? hes the only one i'm missing from the selection

[jolly seal]

aura monster with s1

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you answered yourself with that one

[wanton meadow]

Ok bad luck cleansed in this banner, surely i won't also be unlucky in sash2 banner (foreshadowing is a...)

[scenic yoke]

Should I build logos or ascalon first to replace with mountain

[jolly seal]

logos first

[royal swan]

20% chance when u hit a 5* so i wouldn't

[heady badge]

will the ones i pick here show up in the cert stroe?

[sacred cave]

Is it true that yostsr is pushing the banner dates?

[pale tapir]

you're right I did 4 and it's proviso dupe
whatever gold certs

[granite needle]

Do we have an approximate estimate for when Chen Alter Alter banner is coming? Just see that there is 9 banners untill it comes

[coarse notch]

ascalon e1 in for thorns
logos e2 for mountain

[coarse notch]

when she came out in cn + 6 months, so about 5 months here give or take a couple of weeks for yostar shenanigans

[royal swan]

july prob since that's when we usually get the festival banners on global

[sacred cave]

https://imivi.github.io/arknights-pulls-calculator/ are these dates accurate?

[coarse notch]

guesses

[tardy urchin]

very late july/early august

[granite needle]

Nice, I returned not too long ago so my Orundum is in shambles. Is that enough time to guarantee?

[honest plinth]

which of them is useful in is6?

[ancient lotus]

sakiko

[sacred cave]

Hmm okay I was told yostar is pushing banners front

[coarse notch]

leizialt and sakiko

[honest plinth]

skk mod lvl 1
leizi/surtr/mountain are lvl 1

[coarse notch]

cube is sakiko still washed in dlc2

[ancient lotus]

shes pretty good

[coarse notch]

whats the guard prio actually in dlc2

[ancient lotus]

chen3 saki mlyn, no specific order

[hidden nacelle]

sounds like fake news

[coarse notch]

also alyssal mentioned m3 + reedic for dlc2, whats up with them

[ancient lotus]

basically there's an enhanced version of spiked chest that you need to solve

[coarse notch]

oh right that makes sense then

[royal swan]

leizi alt

[wanton thorn]

Got logos on 60 pulls 🫠

[coarse notch]

what happened to leizialt

[wanton thorn]

Should I keep pulling?

[ancient lintel]

can I sub leizi2 for myln

[wanton meadow]

Oh jeezus mon3tr's skills are offensive recovery

[coarse notch]

they're fake offensive recovery, shes constantly healing her reconstruct

[wanton meadow]

Oh you mean using the summon?

[ancient lintel]

which becomes auto recovery if u use the reconstruction

[ancient lotus]

you can, shes still decent but mlyn taunt can come up.

plus the talismen will kill themselves after expansion 2 so leizi's talisman counter doesnt really work that well anymore

[hidden nacelle]

she never stops attacking and gives aspd to herself usually do generally it's faster ngl

[wanton meadow]

Ok gotcha

[honest plinth]

she's lvl 1 rn. anyone else who is not?

[sly compass]

Entelechia s2 > s1 for RM?

[royal swan]

sakiko then yea

[raven ermine]

It's not faster lol, check chain medics aspd

[coarse notch]

just take sakiko, no one else there is good

[ancient lotus]

yes s1 is strictly if you want to afk

[scenic yoke]

Logos mod y or a and is level 60 enough? And which skill first

[honest plinth]

has ntrk ever been meta

[near hollow]

Is weedy the push strokers pus-y good? Or is the X better?

[subtle dawn]

What skill do I use on logos?

[ancient lintel]

3, sometimes 1

[coarse notch]

skippable mod for most players but use modx

[raven ermine]

Slightly used at some point to bypass deploy limit
That's it, she died like right after

[near hollow]

got it

[coarse notch]

super copium congestion hedge in is5 vgg, thats about it

[severe veldt]

i have ptolpsis at max level but i also have lumen and nightingale. should i replace ptolpsis for either one? and if so which one is better?

[honest plinth]

Has specter alter ever been meta?

[raven ermine]

No

[royal swan]

delta module

S3 mastery should be enough, s1 is nice for afk stuff as well if u wanna do that

[subtle dawn]

Bet ty

[ancient lintel]

just keep using ptil, sub her with NG if u need to live through some kind of arts onslaught, lumen can stay in the closet

[severe veldt]

is there a better six star healer i can use for general use?
ng is for arts no?

[pale tapir]

yeah haruka

[ancient lintel]

haruka or mon, or you can just, not use healer at all

[pale tapir]

monmon is a dps trust

[royal swan]

ptilopsis is better than the ones that aren't mon3tr, haruka cuz she also provides sp regen to ur units allowing them to spam their skills more often

[teal parcel]

guys as newbie is it wise to plan on sparking the silverash alt banner aiming for wisadel?

[ancient lintel]

ye but u dont really use her for that, unless u got something that has unbelievably high DEF and RES but like 5000 HP or somethin idk

[ancient lintel]

sparking is never recommended, but if ur a fan of her then sure, just know that with 300 you can get much more than just a cockcroach

[keen hedge]

Mon3tr has good healing? I know she does good DMG

[ancient lintel]

she has good burst heal on s2 ye

[keen hedge]

Ok tank u

[pale tapir]

she's mainly an aspd and atk buffer with good burst heal

who deleted my message about s2
monmon s3 is for based individuals

[ancient lintel]

and an AOE true dmg source if u happen to need one

[keen hedge]

Thanks but I have Nightmare's S2 for aoe true damage 😎

[ancient lintel]

She does like 60k ish on s3, if her mod bumps that to like 80k at mod3 I'm doin mod3 XD

[keen hedge]

Is that alot? lol

[signal dragon]

surskit why did you do this to yourself

[pale tapir]

btw monmon s3 only attacks blocked enemies

[ancient lintel]

she's a crusher on s3

[signal dragon]

monster? it has a radius

[tiny abyss]

Does she?

[keen hedge]

I bought Nightmare with 45 gold certs 😎

[pale tapir]

yea but skill says only attacks blocked enemies
do I have to test this

[odd sky]

3x3 attack up to block count

[jolly seal]

crushers dont have def, she has

[tiny abyss]

It's 3 enemies within a 3x3 range no? no need to be blocked

[pale tapir]

is this a yostar moment

[tiny abyss]

Else how does she attack Theresis

[ancient lintel]

nah it's a 3x3 aoe up to 3 targets

[jolly seal]

centurions also have that

[odd sky]

no bad reading comprehension

[ancient lintel]

dementia+ kicking in it seems

[pale tapir]

it literally says "attacks all blocked enemies"

[jolly seal]

its actually attack enemies in range upto block count

[pale tapir]

so it is yostar moment
never trusting skill desc again

[raven ermine]

You never should've in the first place

[jolly seal]

bumstar

[tiny abyss]

If she needs to block then the range extension is kinda useless

[odd sky]

seems to be yostar moment

[tiny abyss]

Just make it Mountain s2 range

[bold kernel]

I assume Nymph and Logos have synergy since Logos can inflict necrosis?

[pale tapir]

does logussy even inflict enough necro to proc it

[wanton thorn]

Returning player her, who do I r2 forst? Surtr or logos?

[odd sky]

logos doesn't burst necrosis fast enough

[raven ermine]

They do not, you'd rather standalone logos and ignore it entirely

[ancient lintel]

kinda? but like why lol

[bold kernel]

Bummer, Nymph will continue to be unleveled then. Thanks y'all

[jolly seal]

logos

[pale tapir]

nymph is still a decent staller
she just suffers from a bad case of primal caster

[jolly seal]

nymph is a good caster with s2

[ancient lintel]

she could have been a female logos 🥀

[hollow patrol]

Should I wait for Hoederer CRU-Y module or is X his best for general laneholding?

[cursive gazelle]

Is it worth to m3 myrtle with that free thing?

[ancient lintel]

use it on ethan

[lethal void]

which skill?

[ancient lintel]

2

[raven ermine]

s2

[wanton meadow]

S2

[jolly seal]

s2

[cursive gazelle]

i don't have ethan but I'll work on it

[wanton meadow]

He's from red cert so basically a free unit

[lethal void]

who should i pick for the rate up banner?

[hidden wolf]

Should I max training room

What about dorm

[raven ermine]

Not a priority if your base isn't setup correctly, but yes max TR
Dorm lv 1 tho

[odd sky]

ethan s2 mastery is more expensive yea

[haughty vector]

is ascalon a niche operator or you can use her generally?

[raven ermine]

Both

[abstract mauve]

use regularly

[haughty vector]

hmm ok

[pale tapir]

she has a niche but that niche is generally useful

[vivid quarry]

wait new event doesnt need sanity to play at all?

[modern pilot]

Is pairing surfer with cantabile too much or is it okay?

[pale tapir]

you can but why do u need so much dp

[hidden wolf]

Why can I only choose these to train

[wanton meadow]

Mudrock eunectes turbo

[jolly seal]

cuz only units with skill lvl 7 can show up

[lethal void]

should i do 1 ten pull on the orienteering gacha?

[raven ermine]

TR is for masteries
Which are unlocked at skill level 7 and elite 2
Also very much not a priority for you rn, masteries are expensive

[jolly seal]

type in dark so buns

[pale tapir]

ok yeah monmon s3 is attacks up to block count in that 3x3 area
idk why I trusted skill description my bad gang
now I gotta test if flagbearer module increases that count

[cursive gazelle]

I'll do my best to remain strong for silverash alter...

[jade mantle]

Penance seems good, worth gold cert?

[jolly seal]

no

[hidden wolf]

Only mitsumi is e2 tho

[abstract mauve]

not at all

[lethal void]

is tecno worth building?

[jade mantle]

Gawddamn alright

[ancient lintel]

fck no lol

[jolly seal]

no

[cursive gazelle]

Then theres this guy with mines incoming too 😔

[raven ermine]

Which is why i said that this is not a priority at all right now

[hidden wolf]

U meant skill 7 or e2?

[jade mantle]

Isnt penance like a sidegrade to mudrock or something

[tiny abyss]

Both

[ancient lintel]

both are not as good as they used to be

[raven ermine]

both

[abstract mauve]

they are both ass

[worldly zealot]

is logos module important to him or should i leven up ascalon instead

[pale tapir]

only if you're a 5* knights player
but why would u do that to yourself

[ancient lintel]

Their prime is over bruh

[buoyant sigil]

In rm-3, how do I block those running guys

[meager kraken]

hello im new in arknights and im struggling trough the story can some1 help me fix my mistakes

[jade mantle]

i will not take this mudrock slander, but ill accept her position in meta

[honest plinth]

who do I position to the left Raidian or Wisadel

[ancient lintel]

#strategy can help you with stages ur struggling with

[reef sparrow]

she's meta in workshop

[hidden wolf]

But only mitsumi is e2 s7. Kroos and the other girl are not but they show up

[pale tapir]

leftmost op when sorted by dp

[wanton meadow]

Dw i too will continue to use mudrock even when she gets powercrept for the nth time by beagle 54

[honest plinth]

eh, the most expensive one?
or cheapest

[pale tapir]

least

[ancient lintel]

the true rock miner

[raven ermine]

They can show up
You can't train them
They show up because sl7, you can't train them because not e2

[hidden wolf]

Ohh

Ethan or humus

[ancient lintel]

ethan

[hidden wolf]

I meant humus

[modern pilot]

Why don’t I need so much? I’m honestly still kinda stuck on the 2 vanguards per team idea and I can’t break away. I don’t even know who to use in replace of my second vanguard.

[pale tapir]

most stages aren't tight on dp
so there's no real need for multiple vanguards most of the time
sometimes you'll need more, but majority of the time u can run no vanguards

vanguard mentality is driven by early stages being dog rush starts

[wanton meadow]

It's hg future proofing stages against ling solos trust

[runic willow]

agents are great vs early dogs

[abstract mauve]

maybe bellone will be good also against early dogs. you'd never know

[wanton meadow]

Honestly how often do you use mon3tr s3?

[abstract mauve]

never because i dont have her

[pale tapir]

10% of the time

[native cargo]

in 5 star selelction cards for anniv evnet does it include proviso in it?

[abstract mauve]

it does ye

[wanton meadow]

So basically s3 is a luxury raise?

Or is the damage difference actually important

[native cargo]

when does anniv event typically start

[abstract mauve]

like a bit over a month ago

[pale tapir]

imo yeah
the problem is that she's kind of a sitting duck until skill is up
it has its uses and you'll know when u want to use it, but it's nowhere near as useful as s2

[sand folio]

Does Mon3ter and Ray need their full invest? Like e2, mods, mastery

[abstract mauve]

we got our anniversary selector with hoshi2 event. summer event is EN anniversary

[native cargo]

somewhere around jan i suppose

damn

[abstract mauve]

16th of january to 6th of february ye

[honest plinth]

totter?

[abstract mauve]

mon3tr mod is wtvr not needed. ray you'd have to decide between her mods. 1 of them is better cycle the other is more damage. i believe the damage one has better overall damage

[nova nest]

Does anyone know if SA2 works well with Myrtle, or do they occupy similar spot?

[jade mantle]

i only need ray hoderer and thorns lodestar from the banner, its a skip for me i guess

[next bronze]

Is Logos and Ascalon mods worth to level 3?

[abstract mauve]

logos delta mod lvl 3. ascalon slow mod lvl 1

[nova nest]

Logos is Triple S tier in mod recommendations

[next bronze]

Thanks!

[little wagon]

I want monst3r from the banner but the 33% chance isn't looking very pretty so I think its a skip

[wanton meadow]

The banner should only be pulled if you want all 3 of the rateups anyway

[next bronze]

Is that like in a document or something? Where is it?

[wanton meadow]

Mods

[nova nest]

Yea, it's in pins
https://tinyurl.com/5ax8fxbm

[abstract mauve]

<@&586570970345635868>

[nova nest]

But yea, would you guys suggest running SA2 + Myrtle? Trying to figure out if Myrtle is right pick for M3 ticket (would need to E2 her first though)

[abstract mauve]

the strategist archetype is somewhat a flagbearer/pioneer powercreep in the way they function. SA2 has similar dp gen to the 5*/6* flagbearers on his s3 for the first skill activation ~55 seconds after deployment. other than that he also blocks 2 of the entire skill duration, has decent levels of survivability (decent-ish defense and health regen), applies fragile, deals some damage, reveals invisible enemies, has a dp swap mechanic, and gives +4 initial sp and reduces redeployment timers of operators to the left of his summon

[slim temple]

Can I borrow ulpianus S2?

[sleek finch]

basically means logos gain a lot of dmg from module

altho there is a funny issue with logos where he already does too much dmg that he doesnt need mod in general content, since most everything die before necrosis trigger

[nova nest]

And 5 star flagbearers give more DP than Myrtle already, right? 55 seconds sounds like a lot though, so probably he doesn't actually replace Myrtle from your description

[sleek finch]

55s means 2 skill cycle

[severe crypt]

If Ely himself replaces Myrtle, how Tf do you think sa2 fares

[nova nest]

Also, thought that Strategists have block 2 by default, not on skill (I've played like 5 days before rerolling and had Matsukiri there)

[sly compass]

For RM, does Brigid count as an AOE sniper? Or just a sniper that's hits three times on three targets and then waits.

[fathom hawk]

is ascalon worth building :(

[pale frost]

Yes, she is really strong. Her S2 is game changing

[fathom hawk]

ooh oke ty

she does dps right is she comparable to sakiko

[severe crypt]

Let’s not go that far

[fathom hawk]

oh 💔

[hoary ruin]

Asc isn't a boss killer like Saki. She's great at REALLY slowing and killing normal enemies though.

[fathom hawk]

wb comparable to sash 😭

i… don’t rlly have a prob w normal enemies tho 😭

[drifting prairie]

Is saki even a boss killer? I feel like lemuen or typhon are better boss killers

[hoary ruin]

85% enemy movespeed reduction when maxed. Will make sure Saki will kill anything that lives.

[coarse notch]

she can bring basically any ground enemy down to the movement speed floor

[pale tapir]

if sakichan is a machine gun asscalon is a cloud of poison gas

[abstract mauve]

here. graph i made a while back. should be accurate. 48 seconds in, elysium starts to generate more dp than sash2 s3. myrtle only starts generating more dp 69 seconds in

[severe crypt]

S2 slows air btw

[coarse notch]

thats like all shes good for, shes a single target dps
typhon is kinda terrible for killing bosses
and obviously lemuen is better

[fathom hawk]

oh demn

[nova nest]

Are these M3 versions?

[coarse notch]

of course

[drifting prairie]

Why do you say typhons terrible for bosses? I thought that’s the whole point of besiegers

[abstract mauve]

ye. everyone is m3 here. elysium and myrtle are pot6 sash2 is pot 1

[coarse notch]

her s3 dps is horrendous and she gets distracted very easily
her s2 dps is similarly bad but its at least used for afk

[nova nest]

Thanks, that's very helpful! Mostly answers my question

[coarse notch]

if you have absolutely nothing better to use then typhon might be able to get the job done, but otherwise shes solidly in the afk tier

[tiny abyss]

Rq calculation day is every 3 day in RA right

[sleek finch]

because it takes her 50s to even kill one, +her dmg is gimped if any mob walk around the boss

single target is not a good thing when its also random targeting, especially when theres ops that can do aoe, kill faster and do more dmg in total
and im not talking about wisadel

[neat eagle]

Ok so i've just encountered something on lemuen
As she was using her s3 the enemy being marked was killed by my goldenglow but the s3 mark stayed where he died, lemuen didn't continue marking for quite a while and i had to manually deactivate her s3 and all of the ammo spent dropped right into that spot
Is this a bug or a mechanic?

[sleek finch]

basically

"boss killer" is not a good thing when there are "everything killer" in this game

why only kill the boss when you can also kill the boss and everything else

[abstract mauve]

mechanic

[neat eagle]

Oh ok

[hoary ruin]

If the skill ends when she still has ammo and nothing to target, I think she just drops all shots on the last square she targeted.

[solemn carbon]

it doesn't drop all the remaining ammo, just the ones you've "spent" already, she's gotta tag an enemy with each shot

[thorn panther]

I can E2 1 5* which 5* should I do it
I'm new

[pale tapir]

proviso idk (show ur krooster profile)

[sleek finch]

everything boiled down to typhon is too slow at killing a boss

[drifting prairie]

Hmm, I guess they just need to release a better besieger. Typhon already powercrepr rosa

[sterile crane]

Hello all! I am a fairly new arknights player. I was really thinking of getting Eyja because of the new sanrio skin (I haven't used my anniversary recruitment voucher yet)

BUT..also kind of wanted surtr because she is one of my favs (and she is still a meta gaurd I have heard)

but Eyja is ALSO one of my favs and I don't have a good caster yet

I was also thinking of pulling on Chen alters banner... so I don't know if getting another guard is smart atm
Help me please..!! Also heres what some of my acc looks like

[drifting prairie]

I think eyja is better for daily content than surtr

Especially since you lack a good caster

[sleek finch]

idk dude, besieger is a lost cause atp
they can "save" an archetype by number inflation but thats boring

[slim tusk]

just take surtr

[wanton meadow]

If we're talking daily content, bro could easily clear the waves with just ascalon instead of having to raise eyja

[nova nest]

Myrtle and Ethan are basically only M3 candidates for ticket, right?

[wanton meadow]

Myrtle is not a candidate

[drifting prairie]

Ascalon and eyja have different uses?

[sterile crane]

So I should go with my gut and pick Surtr?

[untold dawn]

So I've cleared RM 1 but it's not showing max, is my goal to get max for each map? I don't know how to do that really

[wanton meadow]

If youre talking aoe damage, raising eyja for just daily content is such a waste of resources when ascalon does the job well

[sleek finch]

they are different but similar role of filtering the mobs out, which ascalon is better at it

[drifting prairie]

That’s valid, imo I just think surtr is overhyped especially when this person has no e2s

[thorn panther]

How to share it?

[thorn panther]

https://www.krooster.com/u/quiet-indigo-plume-804o

[slim tusk]

who cares people see eyja with tinted rose glasses

[sleek finch]

idk about you, but surtr is already better than most of their 6*, aside from ascalon

[slim tusk]

realistically eyja s2 doesn't do much

[jade turtle]

almond.. figurino or tippi? who to choose?

[sleek finch]

none if possible

[slim tusk]

all sucks but eh almond ig

[nocturne arrow]

curious but whats the best skill and what module for ascalon?

[jade turtle]

well.. i picked fang rockrock.. i need a third

i have proviso already so xD that 3 is left

[sterile crane]

So pick Surtr.. got it! Thank you all!

[thorn panther]

Help me somone 😓

[wanton meadow]

Almond for blacksteel base combo ig?

[jade turtle]

aight good enough for me xD

on the 6 star... mon3tr logos and ascalon.. thats good right?

[fathom hawk]

if i were to build ascalon, she’d replace… cuora?

[shadow bay]

sure if u dont need brick anymore

[winter crystal]

yeah you have ulipi moutain and saria, no need for a 4th wall

[shadow bay]

s2

mod that give more slow, base only

[grand wigeon]

Would mon3tr s2 make degen s3 end faster considering it says 10 slashes?

[spark matrix]

who should i level up for this new mode (should i also take passenger support for cheaper raise or what)

[coarse notch]

no the slashes are fixed at 0.3 seconds

[vocal igloo]

I need help on who to raise, + mods and masteries. https://krooster.com/u/payday2636

[coarse notch]

wtf payday in help chat

[vocal igloo]

i have returned

[grand wigeon]

Thanks

[jade turtle]

great.. i got her LOL

[polar totem]

mon3tr or ascalon is worth raising first?

[coarse notch]

ascalon e1, then mon3tr e2

[polar totem]

oh ok

[coarse notch]

tragodia mod2
leizialt mod2
sakiko s3m3 ,mod2/3
hoshialt s3m3, consider s2m1
finish logos mod
necrass mod is good for her
haruka mod1 s2m3
ceobe s2m3 modx3
suzuran s3m3 modx1
hoederer s1m3 + s2m1 mod1 and greyyalt s1m3 mod3 if you play is5
humus/gummy/windflit have solid e1s for IS
roberta e1 for base
wtf unraised wisadel
maybe entelechia m6 if you like her, shes pretty good with the new mod coming soon

[grand wigeon]

is degen mod 1 the best stopping point?

[dense copper]

will ascolon and logos no longer have a chance of showing up in the shop any time soon cause of the new banner?

[crimson harbor]

So like how big og an upgrade getting mon3tr and ascallon

[coarse notch]

depends on your account but they're both very strong operators

[vocal igloo]

time to put all this in the planner, and yeah i like using entelechia so wait for new mod. but uhh idk about m6, which skill is used more in is6?

[dense copper]

no they wont show up or no they will?

[grand wigeon]

have to wait a long time before it happens again unless she appears in the banner again

[coarse notch]

s2 iirc, dont quote me on that
also from what ive heard she isnt really prioed there but is just okay

[vocal igloo]

this banner has no effect on their appearance in the cert shop.

[orchid kite]

Is this the 2nd or 3rd time sanrio skin has appeared? Also is Ray worth pulling from the banner or nah

[coarse notch]

cube said guard voucher goes to chen3 sakiko mlynar

[vocal igloo]

i'll ask cube later.

[coarse notch]

2nd
and check pins

[manic marsh]

yall would victoriaknights be a good idea
problem is there's too many casters

[grand wigeon]

both could have a chance to come in another orienteering banner thats coming in a few months but its a 50/50 as those banners are subjected to change

[crimson harbor]

This should be good enough

[hybrid bluff]

Should I m3 my myrtle I have my ticket

[grand wigeon]

meant to reply to this

[vocal igloo]

if you don't have a question, don't post bruh.

[manic marsh]

?

[gusty briar]

is this bugged or im just stupid, closure highlight Lava instead of the equipment and i dont see any equipment?

[coarse notch]

weird, try restarting the stage

[vocal igloo]

i wouldn't recommend it, youd much rather use agents. unless you're simping for her save it for better 4s

[crimson harbor]

I forgot the question mark sorry

[frosty flame]

Got logos on abt the 5th reroll, any of the others worth rolling more accounts for double 6 star or nah?

[hybrid bluff]

I don’t have much e2 4* so

[coarse notch]

e1 ascalon, then e2 mon3tr, then e2 ascalon, then give ray/naran/degen/surtr their mods

[vocal igloo]

well, if talking general content sure, do you have a specific stage or content in mind?

[hybrid bluff]

I’ll keep it maybe

[orchid kite]

How do you check what units youre missing from which faction

[coarse notch]

archives

[vocal igloo]

No, logos is most ideal, keep it and start playing the game 👍

[crimson harbor]

Naran have mods??

[coarse notch]

oh right its not out yet

forgot yostar did a funny with her module

[orchid kite]

Archives dont show all factions does it?

[crimson harbor]

Just want to know where to focus my resources and not spread it stupidly

[orchid kite]

Oh nvm I gotta look at the map thingy

[pale glen]

Who can I replace with Mon3ter?

[granite needle]

There is something im not getting here

[coarse notch]

need to clear it under standard environment

[granite needle]

what does that mean

[coarse notch]

[severe crypt]

Oh god

[ancient lintel]

ur in story mode bruh, switch to standard

[coarse notch]

change the difficulty to standard in the bottom left

[severe crypt]

Inb4 bro made it to chap 14 ONLY on story mode

[granite needle]

OH
I returned a little while ago and havent touched story untill now 😭
ty

[coarse notch]

chalter or sash can come out for now, once both are e2ed then kick out lappland
when you need silence replace click/krooster with lappland for that stage

[granite needle]

Thought they were just generous that we didnt need sanity for story 😭

[frosty flame]

I didnt really need to on my og account but, should I use the remaining rolls on the beginner banner for the 6 star?

[pale glen]

Thanks

[coarse notch]

do single pulls until you get your 6 star then stop

[frosty flame]

Alrighty

[manic marsh]

Chen

[hallow raft]

is there a means to farm the new event? Or do I have to manually clear a stage repeatedly.

[manic marsh]

Actually silverash he's only relevant on his s3

[slow sun]

So?

[coarse notch]

you rerolling?

[royal swan]

it just dropped today, check the pins for this

[royal swan]

prob logos is the best reroll target of the bunch

[little wagon]

what about Ascalon and monst3r?

[green anvil]

Hey guys who should i choose on the new banner?

[manic marsh]

guys how do i make a team out of this victoria roster?

[royal swan]

update the reroll part btw

[coarse notch]

they're good but not as good as logos
depends on how deep you're rerolling

[turbid ocean]

Thanks

[royal swan]

good units but for a new acc logos is more value

when u have a bunch of units i'd argue both ascalon and m3 can be more valuable than logos(acc dependent again) and ray but logos and ray are better for newer accounts who need to build their first carry, ig it depends on whether ur pulling for short/long term gains

[manic marsh]

oh and jessicat is there too

[green anvil]

There isn’t any 5 star recommendation on the new banner;-; who should i choose again?

[opaque turret]

anyone worth in Orienteering Headhunt for my team?

[royal swan]

there is, u just didnt read it, proviso and the rest dont matter

[manic marsh]

Ascalon

[royal swan]

if u have both ray and logos prob skip cuz as much as ascalon and m3 are good, the last char isn't near their value and prob isn't worth gambling on

[radiant wyvern]

Self imposed challenge or what just use all the 6*

[slim tusk]

i'll just skip orientering

tragodia and eblana sleep

[manic marsh]

Maybe

[royal swan]

if the goal is to use only victorians for a team, even if its subotimal then

saileach - vanguard
puzzle - another vanguard, agents are comfy to have and its not like there's a bunch of better units there anyway
necrass and tragodia 0 best units in the list
Harold for the healer
mousse and vina and rockrock for arts
May
Bena ig since dollkeepers can be useful
shalem and jessicat for defenders

[opaque turret]

im lost, what do i look in the pins?

[green anvil]

Umm guys i just got logos in 10 pull is he good?

[opaque turret]

nvm found it

[manic marsh]

one of the best casters

[royal swan]

click on current pool (blue link) then click on the link for orienteering

[green anvil]

:000

[jade mantle]

the only man to head a matriarchy

[proud zephyr]

Is ray worth building/worth slotting in my squad? My current team

[royal swan]

gladiia and thorns aren't really needed so one of them can go for ray

[manic marsh]

Damage is nice but range is really awkward

[slim tusk]

her range is one of her selling point

[coarse notch]

ulpianus isnt even there so just kick gladiia out

[frank wing]

I'd say gladiia should go

[proud zephyr]

I just slot her there cause it’s just my free slot + was doing a few stages with ulpipi support

[coarse notch]

even if he was there it'd be her going out first so

[frank wing]

You could probably switch out thorns for gladiia when you want to use ulpi, otherwise just replace her with Ray

[proud zephyr]

Alright

[slim tusk]

or just don't use ulpislop
that team is strong enough

[royal swan]

u use the sand beast to extend her range as needed

[cyan oasis]

I got Logos from the appointment in the new game mode but he doesnt appear for selection

[royal swan]

go to appointment, click on appointment rules at the top right and read

[vocal igloo]

set up your base

[bleak wave]

ray will get a 2nd mod? is it better than current one?

[cyan oasis]

He doesn't appears, I can't even add to armory

[lament loom]

Is there a way to check what mats are running low?

[random shard]

Use krooster and put your goals into it.

Or just look at your depot

[eager ridge]

https://krooster.com/u/d0mi
What should i priority next?
Doing good on normal stages, but bosses are kicking my ass, for example stuck on 15-20 and GO-EX-8-CM (barely cleared normal)

[full trellis]

who should i select for the 3 6* and 3 5*