help

[dreamy carbon]

good to know

[abstract mauve]

haruka is gonna be the go-to for everything else basically

[formal quartz]

I got nightingale

[dreamy carbon]

yea that's what i gathered she kinda powercreeps every healers that heals

[quartz moon]

I knew it man you can made it

[fiery canopy]

the humble monster

[slim tusk]

that's what people said about eyja but her healing never really matter

[abstract mauve]

mmmmmmmm

[pine plover]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[abstract mauve]

but like that's like 80% of her kit is the healing and good range with a cheaper cost

[quartz moon]

why ppl mmming

[fiery canopy]

[dreamy carbon]

i mean it would on my account

[pine plover]

more like the elemental healing

the HP healing is just good

[quartz moon]

High elemental heal+continous heal which in some cases can prevent your op get killed by a small difference

[abstract mauve]

well now it's just elemental healing that she does over other options

[quartz moon]

And AFK play choices

[slim tusk]

i think she is overglazed but time will tell

[dreamy carbon]

if i ever have to spark for hoshi alter, do i just take eiya alter? looks like the other options are kinda mid

[shadow bay]

i dunno i always see eyjaberry as a qol healer

[slim tusk]

just don't spark,i don't think hoshi worth going that deep

[abstract mauve]

if you are forced to spark, sure ig

[dreamy carbon]

how much should i pull then?

[shadow bay]

300 since ur sparking

[lone valley]

Till u get what u want
Sparking is garbage so, dont

[dreamy carbon]

i kinda don't want to but i probably won't get hoshi alter before 300

[lone valley]

Says who

[dreamy carbon]

says my luck

[slim tusk]

i'll just skip if she goes over 200

[dreamy carbon]

all right

[shadow bay]

why not we cross the bridge once we got there???... agree??? agree

[abstract mauve]

after 200 tho isnt that like missing out on hoshi2 and eyja2 in 100 pulls

[dreamy carbon]

kinda as well

[random mountain]

Why miss overthinking opportunity like this when you can

[dreamy carbon]

if im over 250 then i feel like it's a waste to not spark

[quartz moon]

Unless I'm really as rich as i can spend 300pulls in every banners i won't do that, even that means wisadel for me

ok wha-

[pine plover]

get a job

[vocal ferry]

execalt worth the gold certs?

[cursive maple]

no

gold certs have pretty high value so you only think about certing top tier units or niche ones if you know what you gon do with them, otherwise pulls is the best use

[pine plover]

save for buying HH tickets or the unexpected mlynar/ines return to the shop

[vocal ferry]

alright thanks!

[proven abyss]

whos hai mao?

[quartz moon]

Lowlight, one if the dev of ak
ocean cat

[pine plover]

the CEO

[leaden mural]

Only got 2 6stars in this acc so far

[quartz moon]

The damedane blahblah guy
The one who gives you monthly card
The one who really plays the game in IG

[leaden mural]

What is the average times you usually pull banners to get 6stars?

[pine plover]

35 i think

[lone valley]

Avg is 35

[robust thistle]

Isnt it 36 or 37

[pine plover]

any 6★

[quartz moon]

Luckiest time i grind 1 pull only for lemuen
Worst time i grind 120 for ash
On average its about uhh 36 or so

[robust thistle]

Emphasis on the word average

[quartz moon]

On ah sorry
My bad English

[fair tulip]

Why do you e0 max level everyone

[pine plover]

in the end it's gambling

[leaden mural]

I havent focused playing on arknights that much XD still tryna get ahold of how the game works

[pine plover]

5 years old unbuilt account

[leaden mural]

I just feel like I havent maximized the resources I have, What do you usually focus on?

[robust thistle]

A lot

[pine plover]

base first usually

[robust thistle]

You barely even started the game

[hexed adder]

Not even ncd might as well reroll

[burnt tree]

how good is hoederer?

[robust thistle]

Not

[hexed adder]

He is fine

[quartz moon]

Basically I finished full resource independence for over a year
And i'm still collecting

[fiery canopy]

gvg

[burnt tree]

how not good is hoederer 😭

[leaden mural]

Should I pull for Tragodia?

Alr thanks

[quartz moon]

Just see why ppl would rather use ulpp but not him

[burnt tree]

see but i'm not planning to pull for ulpipi

which is why i'm wondering if he's worth raising just as a generalist lane holding/boss killing unit

[quartz moon]

Just meant to say that low use is it anyway
Nah, you can have more ops to do that job

[robust thistle]

You can delete ulpian from the game and it wont affect hoe's usage rate

[burnt tree]

i see

[hexed adder]

Surely u have a lot priority (than hoe)

[burnt tree]

and what about skadi alter, is she worth raising?

[robust thistle]

Not really

[burnt tree]

i see

[hexed adder]

Just focus on ur prio first

[quartz moon]

Save and pull the prio
That simple

[burnt tree]

who should i replace with skadi if i want a healing unit that help with damage? i have medicmiya, is she a good swap?

[proven abyss]

what do i do?

[robust thistle]

Just use an actual medic

[quartz moon]

Your factory efficiency is quite low...
What's your setup?
2-4-3 or 3-3-3?

[quartz moon]

Oh wait
2-5-2 whaaaa

[robust thistle]

Its 252

[feral kraken]

I got the catboy now what

[hexed adder]

Upgrade ur lv1 fac to lv3

[robust thistle]

And none of those factories are producing gold?

[quartz moon]

Bro at least 2 producing gold pls

[proven abyss]

1 of em are

[hexed adder]

Its lv1 fac upgrade them

[leaden mural]

Can someone explain or share a video on how to maximize arknights stuffs? What to keep, what to prioritize, which to invest early on and how/when do you usually pull banners. Maybe a list of the s tier ones so atleast I have an idea

[robust thistle]

1 gold factory per TP

[quartz moon]

You need two, trust

[proven abyss]

ok2 i swapped now

[robust thistle]

Just play the game, clear like 2-10 then come back here again

[hexed adder]

3 if u using proviso

[feral kraken]

is tragodia primarily s2?

[quartz moon]

And make sure your lineups are gold-related

[leaden mural]

Im in 3-4 bro

[proven abyss]

should upgrade my tp to lvl 3? or should i upgrade my factory to lvl 2?

[quartz moon]

Wait, i can actually provide my work from my friend

[robust thistle]

Then do the event and clear out shop

[proven abyss]

cuz im currently using my sanity to clear out the event shop before doing anything to the base

[hexed adder]

Do u have proviso? If no tp lv3 the rest fac lv3 and 1 fac lv2

[proven abyss]

no sadly

[hexed adder]

2 tp lv3, 4 fac lv3, and 1 fac lv2

[proven abyss]

ty

should i upgrade base ops to e1 lvl 1 or just e0 max?

[robust thistle]

If you read the base sheet

[quartz moon]

Also if needed this is my precious metal setup:
disclamers: these are not highest efficiency but, they do work

[hexed adder]

Look at /baseskills #bot-spam some have e0 skill, some have e1 to unlock

[indigo spoke]

is every collab have good op?

[robust thistle]

Marcille

[fiery canopy]

laios is op

[quartz moon]

Not really, ash for example

[jade mantle]

She’s ok, she’s not bad

[burnt tree]

Ash

[robust thistle]

Shes a splash caster

[kindred root]

Best aoe caster for e0lvl1 niche!

[indigo spoke]

i remember she is exu but can active skill back to that day, exu is weak now same as ash

[jade mantle]

i guess she’s not a meta or something, but she never felt bad once she was on her second cast

[robust thistle]

Shes dead on arrival
Being eyja sidegrade isnt a high bar

[fiery canopy]

she uses a unique mana system !

[burnt tree]

dusk s1 isn't better than marcille s1?

[kindred root]

Marcille has attack cancels

[indigo spoke]

exu first and second year is good i remember

[jade mantle]

Idk if the people praising marcille are being sarcastic or sincere

[kindred root]

What i said is true

[robust thistle]

Both

[signal dragon]

she's mid

[robust thistle]

Shes pretty much defective before mod3

[indigo spoke]

her s3 10s isnt that strong but long casting time

[formal shadow]

marcille s3 sentinel tech
she uses s2

[lone valley]

Marcile s3 is garbage dude

[indigo spoke]

laios should have skill to turn into finally boss in manga

[lone valley]

Pepple should have the skill to not yap

[formal shadow]

lorewise this is before that
anyways

[kindred root]

If you spoil in helpchat im sending kaltsit to ur house

[shadow bay]

nah this is fine

[burnt tree]

are the IS operators (shalem, highmore, valarqvin, tin man, radian) worth raising?

[indigo spoke]

i need 1 kaltis in my life

[shadow bay]

tinman nice for though carrier, but lately he is unpicked

[proven abyss]

anything else worth getting?

[burnt tree]

lately? is there a new meta?

[vocal igloo]

raidian, yes absolutely busted in her IS and great outside. everyone else is no. tinman is niche, very niche. strats he was used in is now suboptimal due to various reasons.

[burnt tree]

btw, you don't need material to raise raidian right? i heard she level and masteries via is method

[formal shadow]

gavial

[vocal igloo]

yeah you raise her just by playing IS6

[proven abyss]

is both courier and gavial worth getting?

[vocal igloo]

you don't get them to use them, you get them so you can free up a slot in the shop

[formal shadow]

yeah

[fiery canopy]

green certs

[proven abyss]

i sea

is sasaki good if you dont have thorns or is she mid?

[fiery canopy]

saki and shes good

[proven abyss]

idk the collab girl

[hexed adder]

Thorns irrelevant

[shadow bay]

its only that he still need hope to bloat ur thought capacity

although if u can spare he is still a comfortable thought bag

[vocal igloo]

Sakiko? shes great. with or without thorns (treat him like he doesnt exist)

[proven abyss]

im tryna calculate how much orundum i should spend, if she sucks then i can spend more

[robust thistle]

I said "event shop"
The one in the event thats running

[signal dragon]

she's fine but doesn't offer anything except damage

[vagrant plinth]

Is it possible to skip the first gatcha pull. I Wana do a no gatcha challenge but I can't find a way to skip it

[glass mango]

hybrid arts/physical dps but she can ignore def and res so she not shit like Chen

[robust thistle]

Cant you just mark whos the first pull and just dont use them

[vagrant plinth]

That annoying

[robust thistle]

Ok deal with it

[signal dragon]

used to be able to skip by force closing game but it was years ago and probably doesn't work anymore

[hexed adder]

cant even skip tutorial stage anymore

[turbid ocean]

If you wanna consider "no gacha" run, technically most of those 4* are in the recruitment pool

if you don't count that as gacha atleast

[balmy panther]

1st pull is a forced 5star iirc

[turbid ocean]

its not

its minimum 4*

[balmy panther]

oh right
SMT SMT ppl getting 6stars there

[turbid ocean]

you can

but its usually a 4*

[wind mason]

Does pause deploy still work?

[turbid ocean]

Yes...

Easiest way is to use an emulator which has "Escape" bound to the androind "Back" button

Drag and press escape whilst dragging

[wind mason]

I will try the back button

[turbid ocean]

Are you playing on phone?

If so then it will be much harder idk if possible actually

[wind mason]

Yes

[turbid ocean]

I use iOS and its impossible atleast, idk how android phones exactly works but I doubt its comfortable either

[hexed adder]

Its possible but not worth ur time, a lot comfier on emu

[dim sluice]

What tags can u recommend

[slate ridge]

Mostly use split screen to have the back button always on

[shadow bay]

just have those fancy phone that have shoulder trigger set in "back " frfr

[turbid ocean]

Run it through a calculator and show us the possible combos

Looks medicore though i cant lie

[dim sluice]

Ye

[hexed adder]

Even for kafka the chance not that good

[gaunt hazel]

is jessica alter a good op ?

[dim sluice]

Should I just senior operator and ball

[median crest]

can we get kernel ops from the 5* selector we're getting soon™️?

[safe tundra]

not like youll use / raise them anyway. up to you

[dim sluice]

Hmm

[shadow bay]

that gurantee firewatch seems enticing 😋

[safe tundra]

theyre 97% of the time just gold cert dispenser

[dim sluice]

Alr I'll go for that

[patent lintel]

just double checking, it's worth to buy proviso from cert store next reset right? Is her e2 required for optimal lmd gain or is it not worth the extra gold bar?

[dim sluice]

Greythroat lmfao

[pine plover]

yes and yes

[turbid ocean]

What website did you use

[dim sluice]

I balled

[turbid ocean]

Website for the tags

Exact link

[dim sluice]

Uh the first one that popped up

[shadow bay]

oh someone actually advocate certing proviso???

[turbid ocean]

Okay that’s outdated Aceship probably

[turbid ocean]

No don’t cert

[dim sluice]

https://akgcc.github.io/recruit/?tags=Senior+Operator,Crowd-Control,DPS,Nuker,Survival

[turbid ocean]

Oh akgcc is fine

[dim sluice]

[turbid ocean]

Get proviso on anniversary selector

[patent lintel]

we're getting another selector?

[turbid ocean]

She’s very good for base and needs E2

[hexed adder]

Its interesting proviso cert always near Jan lmao

[turbid ocean]

We do every year

[patent lintel]

wait around what time I assumed the next selector was the 6* around ato

[fiery canopy]

tags dropped?

[distant marten]

When will the event stages unlock?

[pine plover]

i think we also got another 5★ selector on half anniversary

[copper oracle]

is tfn5 up yet?

[patent lintel]

Wait so ato gives both a 6* and a 5* selector as the anni event?

[copper oracle]

yes assuming yostar doesnt change anything from CN

[hexed adder]

Tfn in around 2 hrs

[turbid ocean]

We didn’t

[copper oracle]

ok thank

[turbid ocean]

That was July

[pine plover]

ah shuck

[dim sluice]

Went for firewatch

[copper oracle]

anyway chat does anyone want to help me beat a stage

[median fable]

is this another relicless clear?

[leaden mural]

Do we have gift codes ingame?

[shrewd peak]

Stop baiting

[turbid ocean]

No

[pine plover]

wasnt our (global) half anniversary july?

[turbid ocean]

And we got nothing

[copper oracle]

damn cant ask for help in the help channel 🥀

[shrewd peak]

half anniversary is august

[pine plover]

[turbid ocean]

Oh it was August right I can’t count

[shrewd peak]

You don't want help, you want a warn

[copper oracle]

nop i want help

[turbid ocean]

Ok then #strategy

[serene kindle]

What are "Bizarre fragment collections" in is5? Is that the name for the artifacts?

[turbid ocean]

Uh you get one each time you enter a bizarre fragment

They have “mystery” at the end of their name

Like Silkbond Mystery

Hand of Mystery is something else though not the same*

[serene kindle]

Ahh, okay, the ones that are useful only in those stages. Thank you

[pine plover]

bizzare fragment is hidden floor

[turbid ocean]

Not useful… usually they debuff you lol

[pine plover]

called as bosky passage, enter the wonderland, in other IS

[leaden mural]

Sheesh I always feel like certain modes and level needs specific ops with niches TwT

[pine plover]

and couple other name

[white kraken]

is there going to be an update today for TfN or is it preloaded?

[shadow bay]

no announcement avout quick maint, so ig it will just appear later

[pine plover]

no maintenance compensation

more playtime, less freebies

[supple beacon]

How long will it take for the Purchase Certificates to resupply?

[shrewd peak]

won't be happening for a while

There is no ressuply anyway. Items only get added or removed

[pine plover]

red voucher? once in red moon

[quaint valve]

How to get encounter to trigger for Playwright IS2? It feels so random, making me prioritize encounter than battle

[pine plover]

it is random

[lyric roost]

Can Liskarm attack flying enemies? Okokok thanks

[pine plover]

if anything, i dont remember any gun wielding operator that cant attack flying enemies

[median crest]

horn might be stretching it?

[versed agate]

That one brawler dog

[pine plover]

jackie doesnt attack with her gun

[median crest]

I think one of the r6 units

[pine plover]

all of R6S units can attack flying enemies

[indigo spoke]

when arknights in game widget profile discord?

[pine plover]

no pc client yet

[indigo spoke]

oh so this only for pc client?

[proven kelp]

Can executor alter hit air

[pine plover]

damn frederico fraud

[median crest]

it's doc, can instructors hit air? or is it a doc thing?

[pine plover]

and enforcer too cant hit air

doc, fuze, tachanka, iana, blitz, all can hit aerial

it's R6S thing

[median crest]

[pine plover]

fuze the shortest range anti aerial operator

[keen fulcrum]

Which of these should I prioritise building next

[fiery canopy]

zuo

[glacial cove]

What’s the best story line to go for

[fiery canopy]

heart of surging flames for 0 sanity normal stages

[nimble minnow]

most of these ops are useless upgrading, ?

[fiery canopy]

dorothy is good if ur good

[pine plover]

gladiia is mostly for healing ulpianus and give him non-sanctuary 30% damage taken reduction

which also stack with sanctuary because it isnt sanctuary

[brazen hollow]

How.

[formal shadow]

get all 3* is the simplest way

[brazen hollow]

Aight...

[maiden thunder]

cardigan3* is a gacha exclusive so if u dont have her from tragodia pulls it might take a while unless u are planning to pull on leizialt

[twin beacon]

What do these symbols mean?

[maiden thunder]

the white triangle is the SP you get as soon as you deploy the unit,the ⚡ is the amount of SP needed to active the skill and the clock is duration

[nimble kite]

▶️ means SP you get upon deploying operator, see sometimes SP bar is filled to some point?
⚡ means how much SP needed to activate the skill.
🕐 means duration of the skill.

[twin beacon]

Thanks

[pseudo gust]

Does beagle not have a paradox simulation?

[random mountain]

Not every ops deserve it

[pseudo gust]

Will she ever get one?

[wide zenith]

so i probably wont be getting much pulls since i pulled way too much for tragodia would it be fine to skip leizi for hoshi alter banner

[random mountain]

Maybe, its random honestly who's hg choose who get paradox

[pseudo gust]

Are there any other 3 and 2 star operators that do not have their paradox simulation?

[random mountain]

Check yourself
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Paradox_Simulations

[proven abyss]

will we ever get a myrtle skin rerun?

[shadow bay]

myrtle skins arent collab ones so yeh

its only a matter of when

also aren't we supposed to get myrtle skin from... teiko collab or something???

[fiery canopy]

taiko no tatsujin

[pale snow]

Which is better

[woven nimbus]

so uhh how do you get warfarin...?

[signal dragon]

recruitment, 5* selector ig but there are better options

[shadow bay]

need more hope??? right
fine with ur draft?? left

although me dumb would pick right coz hope is good(plus that squad limit gonna be handy)

[woven nimbus]

demn... now i wonder how did someone that suggested me trying to get her for a team expects me to get her...

[signal dragon]

wdym?

[safe tundra]

warfarin? a comp?

[woven nimbus]

idk i was aksing the other day what team i should use but they suggested some units i dont have... and that one is 1 of em...

[sage silo]

hi should i build qiubai or no

[safe tundra]

highkey you dont resort to a buffer when crafting a general use squad

[signal dragon]

probably misinfo warf isnt needed for anything

[woven nimbus]

was this one or smth...

[safe tundra]

wdf astrelgpt..

[signal dragon]

we'll factory reset him later. hes been in #arknights for too long

[lost girder]

Hi guise
New event in 2h and ex stages in 10h rite

[safe tundra]

you have silence or sussuro. thats a direct replacement for his warfarin

[sage silo]

still need a response pls

[woven nimbus]

i see...

[lost girder]

Same
Where help dalaos

[safe tundra]

idr about tragodia but according to pin yes TFN is releasing in that time

[cursive maple]

in arknights talking about....

[hexed adder]

new event in around 1 hr, ex stage like 9 hrs or smt

[woven nimbus]

what about cuora is there any replacements...?

[lost girder]

Ty help dalao

[signal dragon]

all times are in pins

[hexed adder]

lmao u dalao

[cursive maple]

for brick she does good, you will not use a brick as you get more dps ops unless a situation arises

[safe tundra]

kinda depends on the rest of your squad

[lost girder]

The lion does not read pins

[shrewd peak]

The lion will be forced to read the pins

[woven nimbus]

i dont think i have them either...

[signal dragon]

shes a 4* you'll get her eventually

[woven nimbus]

👍

[shadow bay]

bubble is a good substitue

iirc her def is not as big as cuora, but should tank just fine... have reflect dmg and can do enfeeble

[cursive maple]

sometimes i wonder why some of low stars have very busted talents

[hexed adder]

Same Enfeeble doesn't stack so, its not enfeeble

[safe tundra]

bubbul would arguably be generally a better tanker but cuora’s 4 block make it very noob friendly

[slim tusk]

eh 4 block is whatever
higher def and regen is kinda good tho

[shadow bay]

oh w8 bubble isnt termed as enfeeble, but yeh the effect is like that so

[cursive maple]

same with mousse

[safe tundra]

a moose made this chocolate?

[silver smelt]

do people not use vina victoria because her skill takes 2 years to come up or what?

[cursive maple]

idk what kind of brainrot content you have been consuming...

[cursive maple]

bad cycle, niche, better alternative

[robust thistle]

People dont use vina because shes 1 block, zero range, is a true dmg slave

[finite frost]

Top op aoe dp recov caster and fast redeploy, what to choose

[cursive maple]

aoe caster is mostima and ifrit iirc

[finite frost]

Only useful caster is ceobe right?

[safe tundra]

[cursive maple]

ceobe is niche
ifrit is niche
mostima is niche

[slim tusk]

all caster on recruit has their niche

[split shard]

Hidden blade whas best mod for ascalan right

[finite frost]

So .. caster top op and hope for the best?

[proven abyss]

how do i unlock the 2nd friend supp slot?

[ancient lintel]

upgrade your repcetion in base (not recommended for 252)

[proven abyss]

how did you know i have a 252?

[ancient lintel]

we always recommend 252 in here

[proven abyss]

ohh

[cursive oxide]

Which module should I unlock for Ascalon?

[grave fulcrum]

Is Suzuran's ModY worth it? Reading its effect it seems pretty good, more slow plus debuffs

[slim tusk]

4% more fragile for uh 300k and some t5 mats is not exactly worth it

[quiet mauve]

Guys is bagpipe good at e1 for is?

[cursive maple]

yeah no need to waste hope, why are you recruiting in first place idk

[slim tusk]

why draft e1 bagpipe or bagpipe at all

[quiet mauve]

I got a buncha vanguard rec cards, and she's the only offensive one... 🥲

[slim tusk]

just grab fang or reserve

bapipe is massive waste of hope

[cursive maple]

you dont have surfer, canta, ines?

[stray cliff]

who should i e2 first in this team?

[quiet mauve]

Ohh no I take her with 0 hope rec vouchers, but would rather upgrade other ops, so I was wondering if she can be used at e1

[cursive maple]

ulpianus>ray>trag

[woven nimbus]

Am I a dumbass or why would upgrading to elite NERF stats...?

Self stun + extra deploy cost...? Am I missing smth here...?

[cursive oxide]

I would do Ulpianus or Ray

[lunar obsidian]

what happen to my account? if u dont log in for too long do they delete them?

[ancient lintel]

it's called "lore accurate"

[woven nimbus]

huh...

[lost girder]

Think guest accs (not linked to a mail) got nuked some time ago

[ancient lintel]

also a lot of people got their cost go up when you promote so amiya isn't the only one affected by this

[woven nimbus]

sounds annoying ngl...

[lunar obsidian]

uhh it linked to yostar account, i have the account noted on docs

[lost girder]

If it was linked to yostar then it shouldnt be nuked

[woven nimbus]

is it even worth upgrading...?

[ancient lintel]

just continue playing, you'll understand what I meant by "lore accurate" if you actually pay attention and read the lore of the game XD

[ancient lintel]

obviously no XD
you need her at e2 in order to do some story stages but they're skipable so ye

[cursive maple]

better things (skill, stats, talent) cost more money, it;s just like irl

[ancient lintel]

DP isnt really an issue ngl, flags + agents can poop out penance or mudrock (36 DP) right at the beginning of the stage anyway so

[molten bobcat]

After tax alt
Who's next

[woven nimbus]

i see...

[woven nimbus]

whats flags penance and mudrocks...?

[lucid patrol]

Tragodia module good?

[shrewd peak]

it's relevant
if are not minmaxing lvl 1 is good enough

[lucid patrol]

Should i unlock it or its ok if i dont

[ancient lintel]

standard bearers (or flag bearers since most of them carry a flag) prints a fck ton of DP, agents also prints DP via hitting things, so these 2 combine can help you get a lot of DP to the extend that ur able to deploy penance or mudrock (2 very expensive units that cost 36 DP) right at the beginning of the stage, so operator costs going up dont really matter that much in general gameplay

[shrewd peak]

mod lvl 1 is important for trait upgrade to make him deal more elemental injury and activate elemental burst in bosses

[woven nimbus]

is elysium or myrtle better...?

[shrewd peak]

Considering youre new you can just use myrtle

[brazen gulch]

Hi everyone, relatively new player here. I am playing through the Act or Die campaign and have come to a full stop on AD-4. Villain's Minions are absolutely Thanos power-wise to my operators, killing just the first one takes like 40s with E2 Specter + armor shred from E1 Meteor healed by E1 Gavial and [forgot his name, it's a 4-star wandering medic]. When the double Minions arrive i just straight up can't hold them, they nuke my E1 maxed Cuora under S2 with the aforementioned medics' help in a few seconds.

I looked up a guide for this stage and the guy's OPs were all maxed E1, and i just don't have anywhere enough resources to do all these upgrades (i already spent quite a lot upgrading Cuora, Gavial, Popukar (to hold the left lane), Meteor, etc. trying to do something with this stage).

Help? Tips? Thanks in advance

[cursive maple]

did you borrow someone?

[lunar apex]

could you send a screenshot of your operators and sort in rarity ?
Just the couple first one is fine

[ancient lintel]

krooster or squad ss
so that we can cook up a strat for ya

[fallen depot]

did ascalon get a second skin?

[brazen gulch]

No, i'm generally trying to avoid using high-rarity OPs and win through strategy rather than stats. Never saw my Specter get abused so hard in my life before this XD

[brazen gulch]

Sure, gimme a sec

[proven abyss]

do i have to do the emergency supply?

[brazen gulch]

Never had to use Kroos so she's not upgraded at all

I tried replacing physical DPS with elemental with Warmy + Blaze alt, but Burn stacks way too slow to help with the double Minions

[copper oracle]

its cos elem dmg sucks

[copper oracle]

if u want to, if u only care abt mats u dont need emergency mode clear

[cursive maple]

15k hp 450 defense yeah no ahit you aint doing damage

[proven abyss]

thanks this was the answer i was looking for

[sage silo]

which skill on texalter is the best?

[copper oracle]

3, but 2 is sometimes used cos of the res shred and higher dps

[hybrid obsidian]

blaze alter's 2nd skill would work a lot better, looks like you're already close to getting her to elite 1, too. would be a pretty cheap solution

[magic dome]

Testing Necrass, is this the max stats of her summon? I tried again and again using her S3 and stuck at this, I thought her summon can be upgraded up to 6 times?

[lunar apex]

stage ad 4 on the left side only spawn film carrier (zealous extra) so it should be okay as long as you direct the light at them and put someone to block them since they dont attack you
right side have minion but if you know how to direct their attack by placing defender last then they would survive with a medic

[cursive maple]

it is alr upgraded, while using her skill she mustve spawned 2 normal soldiers and each click (x3 in one skill activation) upgrades it

[lucid tusk]

2 week new player. Ended up pulling Ascalon and Typhon on Trag banner. Either of them worth building? The only other 6* I have atm is Blaze, and still holding onto my 6* selection ticket

[copper oracle]

asc very good, typhon is benchwarmer tier

[late oasis]

hi i read pins and i know it’s generally not recommended to pull on kernel, but is this banner especially bad or has the pin not been updated yet? bc i saw that the pin was for the prev kernel selector

[magic dome]

Yeah but I thought up to 6 times? Technically means block up to 6..?

[cursive maple]

no

[keen anvil]

Ascalon is 100% worth
Typhon can be built since you're so early but is kinda mid

[copper oracle]

kernal is bad for avg player because all the ops there are powercrept or niche, if ur doing hard content that require niche ops you most likely also have the knowledge to know how to evaluate units and plan pulls

this game is 6 years old, and kernal are the untis released from year 0 to year 2

[tepid shore]

Mountain is good?

[signal dragon]

pick sa from ticket btw

[keen anvil]

This banner is also especially really really bad. But Kernal is also just bad

[copper oracle]

no

[signal dragon]

depends on the context

[copper oracle]

mtn is niche 🤫

[tepid shore]

For new account

[cursive maple]

2+2=4

[magic dome]

Kinda, I rarely sees him died from YT guides but people said he won't last against elites

[signal dragon]

if you pulled him from newbie banner then use him, otherwise ignore his existence

[tepid shore]

Ok

[late oasis]

oh yeah this i know i was just morbidly curious if this banner’s kernel targets was equally as bad as the prev one or has the pinned not been updated yet

good to know lolol, i really like aak’s design tho sadge

[copper oracle]

idt they update the pins for kernal cos ur just choosing from somewhat bad vs pretty bad vs very bad banners 😂

if u like the unit just get him having fun is important in a game

[late oasis]

lmao has there ever been an instance where the kernel selection is pretty decent?

[copper oracle]

when they put 2 niche ops on rateup and the player plays hard content, its a "decent" banner

[cursive maple]

as he said good units in it are niche so only good for people who are interested in their usage

[signal dragon]

you'd buy the ops with certs instead of pulling ideally

[craggy quiver]

I've heard that Saria isn't a good defender anymore due to power creep, is one of those meaningfully better?
note that i don't have good ammo skill-users, afaik (sankta)

[copper oracle]

ceobe and uh ng(?) or phantom(?) have good pots so its a "decent" banner ig

[keen anvil]

Smth like Nightingale Ceobe ig

[signal dragon]

saria cuora is fine

[keen anvil]

Kal'tsit Ceobe is probably better actually

[copper oracle]

kal pots suck tho

if u only need 1 copy just cert, u only pull if u need pots too

[cursive maple]

ok but he is not talkng about pots

[keen anvil]

All pots suck though

[copper oracle]

damn u must not play hard content then

[cursive maple]

err not all lol , just play difficult content

[copper oracle]

lol if play hard content then u will whine about having p1 defective units

[proven abyss]

what is hard content in this game?

[cursive maple]

even wisadel feels piss poor

[signal dragon]

high risk cc, high diff is

[cursive maple]

relicless

[copper oracle]

high risk CC, max diff IS with hard endings, or max diff IS relicless

[vital cloud]

Vector buffless hard smh

[copper oracle]

vector buffless is 4 ops its not rly hard

[cursive maple]

true but still doable without pots

[keen anvil]

A 5% damage buff is that impactful?

[copper oracle]

its the dp pots too, being able to deploy earlier is important when the enemies that appear at the start of the stage have 20k hp already

also some ops have more than 5% dmg pots, exu max pot is like 15% more dmg

some pots have intagible value like ela haveing an extra mine which is important for some strats

[brazen gulch]

I'll record from PC what i'm currently experiencing once i get home, because as far as i can tell i do as you say already, but my Cuora+Specter still die

[lunar apex]

[sage silo]

guys should i build vulpisfoglia?

[copper oracle]

shes not that impactful

[sage silo]

really?

[cursive maple]

ill simply say this, your units are extremely underleveled and bringing a ele healer wont do anything since the bar fills pretty fast and they will get stunned, you need more damage, since you are against borrowing, build your own SA

[maiden thunder]

Context dependent,if u have an agent such as cantabile,surfer and Ines you'll rather build/stick with them

[sage silo]

i thought she was pretty good man.

[maiden thunder]

She is good if the three agents mentioned don't exist

[sage silo]

ah okay thanks

[cursive maple]

having used ines, when she arrived she felt pretty weak to me...she will do fine in general content so upto you

[bright gust]

Does Focused Selection total times carries to the next banner?

[ruby galleon]

Uh theres the quest edit profile in friends page but even though i change it it doesnt complete why

[copper oracle]

no

[maiden thunder]

Change the text

[bright gust]

But pity does, right?

[wooden yew]

I'm so cooked...I only have 50 pulls for hoshi alter/Haruka....

[ruby galleon]

Thanks

[maiden thunder]

To other standard banner yes

[cursive maple]

and?

[wooden yew]

I'm wondering if I should skip

[young glacier]

You mean 50 +24 free + orundumb minigame

[lunar apex]

so stiff bruh

[cursive maple]

hoshi haruka isnt tomorrow

[maiden thunder]

Just skip idk? They are not all that if u got tragodia it's all fine and either way you are not really cooked since you'll have a lot more pulls by the time the banner comes around

[cursive maple]

i might skip it as well depending on what next sui is

[maiden thunder]

I honestly just wanna get hoshialt so I feel like def ticket is less dead

[copper oracle]

i hope the next sui is ji 🥹

[wooden yew]

What about ave mujica?

[signal dragon]

i read that as jj

[maiden thunder]

Whatever,they are not that good either and you'll get 20 free pulls on the banner making it just 100 more pulls to guarantee sakiko if you really want to and unlucky.

[cursive maple]

she is a good unit, get if youre new, if alr good roster she is fine-ish
but great in is5
so choose

btw for a newbie sakiko is better than leizi alt yes?

[copper oracle]

sakiko OP in is5 but other than that shes mid

[azure mesa]

how good is exe alter compared to other self sustain laneholders like ulpi or mudrock etc

[maiden thunder]

Shitter than ulpi much better than muddy since he can actually kill shit

[wooden yew]

I have considered skipping Leizi alter cause I have mylinar with the module

[cursive maple]

in my times people used to call him best dps laneholder

[copper oracle]

ulp not rly self sustain, but exec worse than ulp and better than mudrock

[lone valley]

Miles bettee than mudrock sinve shes doodoo
But not worth pulling nor certing

[copper oracle]

👴

[lucid patrol]

Who to change for tragodia

[azure mesa]

i guess la pluma will be enough for my reaper needs then lol

[fiery canopy]

ulp self sustain if stage has continuous dot dmg

[maiden thunder]

Sakiko at E1(s2) would allow most newbies to basically snore through the early game,seems more like a comfy pick more than anything.

[austere pivot]

I was told to ask here does anybody have a golden glow I can borrow

[young glacier]

Back in my days best DPS was Chalter Silverash, Surtr and Eyja

[lone valley]

Chalter, thorns, mountain
Pick yourself

[copper oracle]

so 0.01% of stages :realmad:

[maiden thunder]

Borrow lappalter if u are talking about that chapter 8 drone stage

[austere pivot]

I’m not

[fiery canopy]

lets get u to bed old man

[lucid patrol]

Chalter it is

[maiden thunder]

Why are we running medics these days🥱 just kick out sussuro

[lunar apex]

I was told the retired cop dominated the game for a while

[maiden thunder]

She did now she is kinda whack

[lucid patrol]

What tragodia skill is best and when is the next good operator? Is it ashalt

[maiden thunder]

Banner priority in pins and the next limited is hoshitalt.

[young glacier]

Answer to "When" is too soon for comfort

[coarse notch]

the next good op is leizialt tho, we dont know when yet

[fiery canopy]

[versed marsh]

does anybody have s2m3 hoederer on cn bilibili server?

[maiden thunder]

I wonder what that guy will say

[signal dragon]

who

[signal dragon]

dm

[austere pivot]

Please someone end my suffering and let me borrow a golden glow

[pseudo flume]

?

[median fable]

#friend-id is full of people with her, just use the search feature

[signal dragon]

hi guys

[austere pivot]

Oh

[pseudo flume]

I only have Lapplter

[sage silo]

okay guys is qiubai really worth building

[austere pivot]

I’m just trying to clear sss

[signal dragon]

shes fine, wont carry though

[pseudo flume]

If you have nothing else important then yes

[sage silo]

okay thanks

[pseudo flume]

I can let you borrow Lapplter

[signal dragon]

theres better options, like wis

[austere pivot]

I’m just returning back will she do same thing?

[pseudo flume]

Same-ish thing ig

[median fable]

borrow Lapp2, it's better lol

[austere pivot]

Bet thank you

[pseudo flume]

She's Global Caster #2

[austere pivot]

Can I borrow? Then thanks man

[pseudo flume]

Void#0732

[austere pivot]

Global?

Hm not coming up one second

[signal dragon]

capital v

[austere pivot]

Added thank you

[pseudo flume]

Accepted

[austere pivot]

Thank you

[pseudo flume]

No problem

[pseudo flume]

Suraj is Tragodia's best skill in SSS still S2 or do I switch up to S1 or S3

[abstract mauve]

🥹

[median fable]

🥹

[pseudo flume]

What?

[maiden thunder]

Go s3 but s2 was honestly fine,Shit is easy idk why u want to optimize

[pseudo flume]

I mean why not?

[fallen depot]

in the achaulan jungle s3 is better since s2 breaks down from enemy volume

[copper oracle]

tragodia isnt a carry in SSS dont feed him stacks

[median fable]

he doesn't really improve your run, just use another dps

[copper oracle]

thats like asking what stacks do u give ethan, obvisly nothing since he isnt a carry

[abstract mauve]

trag is supporter as well so like just use him to cycle and place him somewhere and forget about him like i do with most supporters

[fallen depot]

ethan carried both using specialist stack

[copper oracle]

[coarse tide]

Hu

[maiden thunder]

Bro just put those stacks on a dps as mentioned and u have better results since they actually kill shit🤯

[pseudo flume]

I do use another Dps was thinking of removing Heidi for Trag

[median fable]

keep heidi to cycle faster (she costs less dp)

[maiden thunder]

Bring more tacticians

[abstract mauve]

run him over heidi. literally just place him down. SSS gives you like 10 deployment slots

[median fable]

honestly I wouldn't bother bringing him in sss at all

[fiery canopy]

isn't s2 true aoe just the lure is limited

[abstract mauve]

i have the god given right to use all 10 deployment slots

[pseudo flume]

I just use Casters at that point

[fallen depot]

s2 doesnt deal enough damage, lure is too slow

[fiery canopy]

[maiden thunder]

But tacticians are cheaper

[abstract mauve]

tacticians are cheaper and block

[pseudo flume]

This is what I'm running with

[abstract mauve]

wtf

[pseudo flume]

What?

[abstract mauve]

ranged dps carry but no casters or tacticiam vanguards

[maiden thunder]

This is horrid bro,u don't need Suzu podenco proviso ejyaalt kroos just go with cheaper units like ranger,orchid,durin

Steward and tacticians

Kick flame and shu too btw

[abstract mauve]

the supporters arent the worst. my problem is that your carries litterally cant get any stacks

[maiden thunder]

Random ahh phantom,wtf is gravel🤯 you can also bring robin/wulfenite for range spec stacks

Look tldr get cheaper units that help stack your exu2 and Wis

[copper oracle]

this comp sucks bruh

[icy goblet]

Best phantom alter skill to m3?

[pseudo flume]

I mean its for Specialist Stacks

[copper oracle]

wis exu ela carry
run tactician + caster to feed them

spec stacks suck bruh

spec stacks are just bad vg/caster stacks

[abstract mauve]

acc true

[copper oracle]

ig unless its ceobe but ceobe for SSS

[abstract mauve]

i mean arts carry can use them but yeah not particularly needed

[copper oracle]

i mean for arts carry its equivalent right

[pseudo flume]

I can just replace Phantom and Gravel with Tacticians

[maiden thunder]

Do that sure along with those bum ahh flametail/shu with casters

[nocturne arrow]

is it worth to keep pulling even after not getting tragodia twice or just save at this point

[ember pine]

Spark mumu for more VG stacks

[median fable]

I'd keep pulling honestly

[ember pine]

If you can afford it then yes

[median fable]

saving for who? He's kinda the best op in the next 6 months

[nocturne arrow]

heres me hoping for a usuable 6 star that isnt stainless ✌️

[humble nova]

does exualter s3 have synergy with sivlerash alter?

[bitter anvil]

every ground unit in ak has synergy with exu s3

[ember pine]

[signal dragon]

wouldnt really call it synergy

[median fable]

technically true

[median fable]

forget about it, use her s2 (unless yk what you're doing)

[humble nova]

well thats obvious yea, but i wanna know how 'good' it is.
I mean considering it's just more insane redeployments

[median fable]

not that good, there is no reason to use s3+SA realistically speaking

[bitter anvil]

I mean when ur competition is someone like Yu tp or a lot of other ops that could maybe even do more damage like Mlynar, why would you wanna use Silverash

[ember pine]

Wym more insane redeployments

[cursive maple]

bro likes the animation lmao

[humble nova]

cuz he's op 💀

[cursive maple]

???? this mf sucks upto him, he is okayish at best

[bitter anvil]

he's not better than ines btw

[humble nova]

he is, lemme clarify silverash ALTER

[ember pine]

How is he OP?

[median fable]

I'd rather use Exu s3 with base SA than SA2 lol
and next time be more specific

[cursive maple]

silverash alter redeploy?? idk what this man is cooking but whatever he has cooked has us all in his maze

[humble nova]

maybe not in the sense of pure dps, but have yall seen those clips where you can end stages within a few seconds with him?

[ember pine]

He did say alter originally to be fair

Probably ignored bc it makes no sense 🥹

[cursive maple]

sciel watcher yeah gg

[signal dragon]

sa alt isnt as game breaking as you think, if every stage had triple dp cost then sure

[slim tusk]

how do you end stages with vg

[ember pine]

Okay but how is he OP

[spare jetty]

what did i just walk into

[median fable]

my mind refused to acknowledge it

[magic dome]

Hoshialter kinda great one, with that forced retreat and you can insta redeploy her and use it again

[humble nova]

refer to this https://youtu.be/7ujf96jNEZc?si=uBHw3SRmMGQChPXI

[ember pine]

Okay but how is he OP

[cursive maple]

called it

[spare jetty]

irrelevant

[humble nova]

he's op cuz of his kit?

[ember pine]

Okay but how is he OP

[bitter anvil]

I think bro has wrong definition of op, Op means actively breaking the game like tragodia

[spare jetty]

but what's the point

[ember pine]

The important word being “how”

[humble nova]

mechanic-wise he is op similar to tragodia due to the dp manipulation and whatnot

[ember pine]

Wha

[median fable]

1. he's not op, I'd call his "s2+Ulpi" more like a gimmicky funny thing than actual real usage
2. if you add Exu2 s3 in the mix it makes even less sense to call it op

[spare jetty]

dp manipulation when no natural dp gen

[cursive maple]

enemy path manipulation to dp cost reduction what an amazing comparison

[humble nova]

well obv you need dp to do shit 🙄
Otherwise u cant place wis, trag, exualter etc.

[ember pine]

[median fable]

guys, how op is texas with her dp manipulation talent?

[formal shadow]

[humble nova]

being able to place an army within mere seconds is not to look down on...

[cursive maple]

very OP

[spare jetty]

still ass

[bitter anvil]

Texas Made my Wisadel Pot 6 so she is very op obv

[cursive maple]

wow my myrtle saileach are OP

[grave bramble]

Is it 3 casters and 3 specialist or 3 of either both?

[median fable]

it is since that's not what SA2 does

[ember pine]

Consider this: it doesn’t matter at all

[copper oracle]

simulates p6 basically OP

[timber turret]

are annihilation rewards one time only?

[tidal pond]

Does Lucian blood diamond spawn infinite summons? He has dodge when not blocked but TPs past when blocked?

[formal shadow]

Wow I can bring out mudrock instantly using 3 vgs

[abstract mauve]

allows him to insta cast s3 on deployment. is this good? uhhh fragility + good dp gen is cool ig? not a particularly insane combo

[median fable]

and, idk if you've missed it, but in the video the guys is using like 9 vgs

[spare jetty]

9...

[cursive maple]

ive seen 3 at a time so yeah

[signal dragon]

9 vg meta surely

[copper oracle]

the TP has a 15s cooldown

[humble nova]

@abstract mauve ty, good response.

@median fable thx for pointing that out! who would've guessed that certain team comps can make such a strong point in gameplay.

[formal shadow]

It's basically crownslayer dash (but not silenceable)

[copper oracle]

silverash alter is so fake bruh hes literally a CC slave

[cursive maple]

we cant even say that

[median fable]

you can't be serious lol

[copper oracle]

if ur bringing 13 ops and have high dp pressure hes pretty good

[humble nova]

eh its whatever till he's released, this is prob one of those moments where the unit is being underestimated until further invested within time.

[median fable]

allegedely

[formal shadow]

Actually true. I can still seem him getting screwed over by cc risks

[bitter anvil]

if you wwre to use 9 buff/debuff ops, actually make it just 2 or 3, you could buff even some bad op to do a lot of damage, like tachanka

it isn't a practical situation

[copper oracle]

he has good dp gen ur gonna be taking him over like canta or some shit most likely

[ember pine]

If you have a ridiculous team comp you can do very silly things for views, who would have thought

[signal dragon]

? i used him, hes not game breaking. niche scenarios are where he shines

[median fable]

no, he really isn't lol. We already know when he's good/bad, we're waiting for CC to see if he will have actual usage there

[pale trail]

Bro am I doing something wrong or are these recent events like kernel and trials genuinely hard for newer players??? I’ve been playing for roughly 2 months and can’t do anything to prevail in these two events. I do fine in story events.

[cursive maple]

its his j*b, malding over meme clears

[copper oracle]

ive used a p6 m9 silverash alter, he sucks

[ember pine]

He’s been out for like a month lmao

[humble nova]

people used haruka, and guess where'd that go until recently ._.

[spare jetty]

yep*

[abstract mauve]

people shit on him just cuz he exists. idk he's fine. his numbers are good. he has decent utility but he isnt this game breaking 6*

[copper oracle]

ive also used haruka and i can certainly say shes giga overrated

[median fable]

even Haruka is not game breaking

like, I'd call Yu s2 tp more game breaking

[cursive maple]

no one from now on is gamebreaking

[abstract mauve]

people who shit on haruka from just seeing the preview arent very smart people. most people course corrected tho

[copper oracle]

i dont understand bruh u can just check the records posted in CN and see how good an op is obviously real usage > reading kit and theorizing shit

[formal shadow]

Just nature of the events. They're more tailored towards players with built ops compared to the other events

[cursive maple]

braking 🚙

[bitter anvil]

correct me if I am wrong but I think game breaking units are like Phantom, Exu, Wisadel

Maybe you could consider Ines and Mon3tr too for the utility and Mon3tr handing 56 aspd for free to everyone

[copper oracle]

yu peaked in vector and never used again

[bitter anvil]

wasn't he used in ccb4 clear

[copper oracle]

nop phantom and exu sucks, its tragodia and exusiai the new covenant thats good 🤫

[formal shadow]

Hey don't forget yu s3 slop week 1 ccb4 🗣️

[median fable]

1 more usage than SA2 🚬

[ember pine]

Okay but I saw a video where something cool happened

[cursive maple]

sa2 alr got usage in? oh 0

[copper oracle]

hes only there to activate shu's talent :realmad:

[median fable]

Yu: 1.5 real usage
SA2: 0

[bitter anvil]

:clueless:

[abstract mauve]

shitting on sa2 kinda crazy. actual hivemind mentality. maybe ard*nis wasnt the only contrarian here

[signal dragon]

this is going no where lol

[copper oracle]

sa2 is so fake :realmad: im coping him for 4 op emer deep cog but he does NEGATIVE damage and negative cycle

[junior hull]

Is asbinthe a good/decent core caster?

[spare jetty]

no

[median fable]

the topic started with "Exu2 s3 is good for SA2"

[cursive maple]

you should help bait with 3op tlk instead

[humble nova]

from what i've seen in comparison with other healers, I think she's worth that hype lol but thats just coming from global.

But yeah no, the silverash alter estimation, i'll just end the discussion with it being one of the most convenient ops to use and have its overall evaluation invalid until further investment, time, and release in global.

[copper oracle]

??? im literally the one spearheading the 3op tlk progress, i did p1 already am hard stuck on the spire caster #5 rn

[spare jetty]

can i rate this topic? if yes then its probably 0 out of 10

[humble nova]

and jesus christ, this channel is so toxic 😭

[ember pine]

Why does “global” matter to you?

[cursive maple]

he was playing on diff account today didnt see you there

[formal shadow]

Yeah the SA alter topic isn't going anywhere

[copper oracle]

why is evalulation invalid until he comes to global? just use him

[copper oracle]

hes grinding 5op emer ooc with senz no?

[median fable]

how he's "one of the most convenient"? Like, convenient in what?

[cursive maple]

currently getting the account to d18

[copper oracle]

lmao

[ember pine]

It’s silly and just wrong to say that CN players’ impressions count less than global players’

[median fable]

and he already has basically all the investment he'll ever get unless hg drops another module

[abstract mauve]

we left that topic a long time ago to just shit on sa2

[copper oracle]

theres a lot of goobers in CN too (less than EN from my experience at least) but u can just look at the usage of silverash alter from good CN players

[slim tusk]

no no the only valid player is sciel
And his speedrun on joke stage

[junior hull]

Should I e2 vulcan for the Bubble+ceobe combo or is she fine just as is??

[humble nova]

actually in this regard, there has been many cases from MY experience in many games where the perspective of ingame evaluation is different per server. Idk why, it just is. Could also be propoganda idk.

[median fable]

he's way overrated, I understand he's good but he's not game breaking

[magic sundial]

Is there a way to get exactly 1800 orundum on the weekly? And what is the combination to do it

[copper oracle]

ok then look at objective metrics like usage in records

[formal shadow]

I just don't use bubble comp

[abstract mauve]

i never implied that he was gamebreaking but why is he getting shit on left and right

[ember pine]

Your experience is meaningless if it’s with other games, and we’re talking about this one, tbf

[copper oracle]

and silverash2 stinks for records rn, he will prolly be used in CC but thats about it

[lone valley]

I swear i saw this exact convo before already

[median fable]

because people says he's gamebreaking

[signal dragon]

we have multiple times

[median fable]

people overrate him so others tends to shit on him

[humble nova]

I didnt "specifically" say he was game-breaking either, everyone here just loves misintepreting words and cause an argument because they respond with such toxicity to begin with rather than a constructive response in kind gesture.

[abstract mauve]

ok then correct them instead 🥹

[lone valley]

What does that mean, exactly 1.8k?

[median fable]

annihilation

[formal shadow]

This is just group SA alter bashing session right now

[copper oracle]

get 400 kills on anni2 anni3 and the latest anni to get 1.8k cap

[magic sundial]

Like not 1850 or 1810, but exactly 1800 (through annihilation)

[magic sundial]

So chernobog and lungmen downtown?

[ember pine]

Take the cigarette out your mouth and put down the baguette🚔 we are just comparing him in reality vs him in player’s eyes. Aside from fib, he is shitting on him 🥹

[copper oracle]

the cap is 1800 u cant get more bruh

[formal shadow]

Just use your tickets, it'll automatically refund your sanity to the right amount

[slim tusk]

why would that matter your sanity get refunded,just proxy the current rotating

[magic sundial]

Yeah I mean so that I don't waste sanity
I'm aware 1800 is the cap

[copper oracle]

theres sanity refund from overcapping, dont worry abt that lol

[median fable]

don't worry guys, John Arknights told me SA2 will be saved with mod delta, he will deal corrosion

[lone valley]

You get it refunded tho..just ignore and fill the cap as is

[magic sundial]

Yeah but it's still not efficient, so I'll worry about it because I want to stop telling me shit I didn't ask about

[hallow holly]

help, which of these to prioritize?

[slim tusk]

??? so what's more efficient

[copper oracle]

how is it not efficient, there isnt a better combo that uses less sanity for 1800 orundumb

[ancient lintel]

it's the most efficient bruh wtf r u on

[ember pine]

tragodia is gamebreaking
he is like tragodia

[copper oracle]

u do 5x rotating annihl for 124 sanity spend to get the max

[ancient lintel]

it's only 124 sanity right?

[magic sundial]

If you do anhi and you already have 1750 orundumbs or whatever, then you spend like 17 sanity for 50 orundumbs

[lone valley]

You do realise to "get exactly 1.8k cleanly" you need to do an anni and like, not fully but only up to certain enemy count multiple times
And thats even more sanity wasteful so...

[ember pine]

That’s not how it works

[copper oracle]

???? why would u be at 1750

[ancient lintel]

you did the downtown lmao, what we're telling you to do is grand baazar

do the current anni, not the perma ones

[copper oracle]

do rotating annihl bruh

[humble nova]

he is "like" tragodia can be inteprated to like "he is somewhat similar in terms of mechanic." like being able to manipulate DP which is a game mechanic, is somewhat 🤯
While tragodia controls enemy pathway, both affect ingame mechanics.

[slim tusk]

iuno what am i even walking

[magic sundial]

like current anhi 5 times?

[formal shadow]

[copper oracle]

yes

[ancient lintel]

yes bruh
124 sanity

[magic sundial]

yah that's fine

[median fable]

every ops can manipulate game mechanics, otherwise they wouldn't be playable

[ancient lintel]

124 sanity for 1800
that's the current best deal

[copper oracle]

being unique doesnt mean theyre good, enforcer is the only one that can do over the shoulder push

[magic sundial]

New orundumbs formula, recommended by 8 out of 10 operators

[copper oracle]

nvm i lied pramalt s1 does over the shoulder push too albiet less force

[humble nova]

yeah but some units affect or influence it more so than others, and from what I seen, silverash alter seems pretty high in that.

Also yall, just not point out things that aren't FULLy specified, and ask for clarification before putting words into the mouth.

[calm raptor]

Was logos already good before his delta mod or did it just make him stronger?

[copper oracle]

logos mid without module

[abstract mauve]

your tw*nk lost his only niche. it's insidover

[slim tusk]

he comes with delta

[magic sundial]

I have him without a module and he doesn't seem very strong yet

[knotty wave]

then mod him

[abstract mauve]

wait wrong tw*nk

[magic sundial]

I'm upping tragodia first

[copper oracle]

wat why insider

[magic dome]

When was Mlynar released? Was it in early 2024?

[calm raptor]

If let’s say, elemental resistance catches up, will units like trag or logos fall off?

[ripe prairie]

Gnorsis worth mod? And what lvl?

[lone valley]

2023

[copper oracle]

no because tragodia isnt a dps
logos has module Y so not rly ig

[lone valley]

It wont

[abstract mauve]

enforcover*. uhhh because i lost too many braincells from today's #help

[copper oracle]

🥀 man i wish he was better 🥹

[calm raptor]

Surely ak won’t succumb to hoyoslop incident

[ember pine]

If your argument only makes sense after being “FULLY specified” after the fact then it’s not very good

Which we all know. Stop digging the hole you’re in even deeper.

You got hyped about Silverash alter and made a bit of a blunder. Take the L and move on

[magic sundial]

elemental resistance exists? wuhr

[formal shadow]

Yes but no

[copper oracle]

yeah some enemeis have elem res now

[magic sundial]

Oh yeah it's there, everyone has E

[lone valley]

Elem injury they do
Was it ch16 that also git elem dmg res?

[copper oracle]

no, some enemies have elem res stat not E

[formal shadow]

Think it's still ERST? I never checked

[copper oracle]

i think it was ch15 or ch16 or smthing

elem res kinda fake stat cos elem dmg is fake anyway 🤫

[lone valley]

Ch15 has injury res
Ch16 has it too, but forgor if they also habe dmg itself

[formal shadow]

All the later ch15 enemies have 10 ERST

[magic sundial]

so like is elemental resistance resistance to the elemental damage that makes the circle fill up, or resistance to the damage dealt by the status, or both?

[indigo spoke]

is there any guide for new event?

[formal shadow]

Which is almost nothing

[lone valley]

Injury is circle, which ch15 has
Dmg noone does so far afaik

[copper oracle]

theres elem res and elem resist, one of them slows the bar ffilling up the other makes them take less dmg

[vital cloud]

How much will I regret skipping trag

[formal shadow]

ERST I'm referring to is more to fill circle

[ember pine]

Yes

[lone valley]

Youll die irl

[copper oracle]

oh they renamed it again?

[vital cloud]

Dang

[humble nova]

uh no, this started with me wanting to know how good the synergy with exualter s3 is with the alter.
I could care less about the power breaking scaling meta-ahh silverash alter balance.
You guys are digging a hole to a burning pit just because yall are led with ur own assumptions.
And thats not even the worst part, yall are sensitive or toxic about a lot of topics, which fyi should be expected when new or inexperienced players ETC comes in everyday.

this is like the 3rd time i've seen help channel became like this and heard it happens a lot more when im not around, thats an issue.

[lone valley]

Injury has been its name since..virt mod? Was it

[formal shadow]

I think that's what it's called now right? Elemental res and effect resistance

[knotty wave]

in Ch 15's case, the added eres was enough to make Virt need to tick the necro 7x to the boss instead of 6x to fill up the whole bar

[calm raptor]

Wait, they really separated the two but def is still just + and -?

[ember pine]

I ain’t reading allat. Congratulations, or sorry that happened

[copper oracle]

its a public chat on the internet, it will be toxic no matter what happens

[vital cloud]

Trag leiziAlt haruka hoshiAlt
If I gotta let go of one who'd it be

[lone valley]

"When im not around"

[median fable]

Silverash alter is good but not meta defining or game breaking:

• s2 is more like a "funny" gimmicky skill since it's reliant on other ops atk stat, I'd rate it more similar to Yu s3 since both skills kinda destory general content
• s3 is skill that can sees usage in CC but it still depends since context matters heavily there
  if you stopped at "SA2 has the potential to be one of the best CC ops" it would have made more sense than taking in consideration how "dp manipulation is game breaking" since it's not even true

also your main problem was providing as proof a meme clear used by sciel, notorious for aiming for that specific content which create click interaction than actual op's viability. You can't use a clear that feature 9 vanguards, Ulpi and Exu2 as a proof for SA2 being game breaking

[copper oracle]

haruka

[humble nova]

literally rule 2

[copper oracle]

if u enforce rule2 there would be no one left in this channel 😇

[lone valley]

Then be polite and everyone move on
Gg its over
Its painful looking at this shit

[lone valley]

U included ofc 🫵

[ember pine]

How exactly is… explaining to you that your opinion on a character is unfounded… toxic and digging a hole in a burning pit

[humble nova]

I wanna clarify I am NOT aware of content such as "meme clears" or "sciel" etc.
This sort of information is unbeknowst to a lot of players, and if thats whats causing discussions like this, then it must be point out publicly.
Im not sure if its common sense..

But yeah point valid, end of discussion. 🤝

[copper oracle]

i mean that is what no one means

[ember pine]

Okay but you literally linked a meme clear by sciel as your only evidence

[copper oracle]

link clears found in arkrec next time 🤫

[ancient lintel]

brute force it with broken DPS, or wait for kyo and his "activate melantha skill" vids

[median fable]

you asked, we answered normally, you insisted with "SA2 is op"

[vital cloud]

You can be toxic and polite. We got hannibal lecter

[copper oracle]

or link clears with 无藏 in the title next time

[humble nova]

I literally and personally said that im not aware that content is looked down upon or even know "why".
I sent it because idk I saw silverash alter being the reason why that stage was cleared in seconds. And thought it was valid because it was an official gameplay.

[formal shadow]

Why are we still going on this topic

[ripe prairie]

Gnorsis worth mod? And what lvl?

[indigo spoke]

should i level lumen

[edgy stone]

Whats the translation

[copper oracle]

do u use s2 or s3

[amber thorn]

When will elly alter be out again?

[knotty wave]

low priority, only spend resources when you finally need him

[copper oracle]

relicless 😂

[median fable]

I don't want to sound rude, but you've seen a clear that used 9 vanguards and you didn't even doubt for a second?

[edgy stone]

🥹peak

[polar hollow]

are there any ops that are good at nuking the puppet things this boss spawns?

[copper oracle]

yato alter

[formal shadow]

SA alter usage in IS?

[humble nova]

perhaps we just had different views on op, and that is fine ig.
Simple miscommunication ig, but the way SOME of you guys handled it, was not very friendly or befitting of a community.

[slim tusk]

it's just click baity vid basically
it's not as good or practical as it seems

[indigo spoke]

is IS mod usable in the new event?

[copper oracle]

with gnosis modA he can be used to permafreeze

[quick jolt]

no

[humble nova]

noted 👌

[lunar apex]

Is this IS mode usually hard or the easiest one ?

[formal shadow]

Oh yeah you did mention that once. Still funny

[humble nova]

easiest one is Is5

[median fable]

for the future, STOP considering yt video as relevant on an operator's usage

[knotty wave]

most bland one and basic 🥱

[humble nova]

noted 😔 👍

[ancient lintel]

it's the easiest one

[copper oracle]

like d18 heretics relicless is (SA guard) gnosis trag cheeto monster and they just permafreeze the entire lane, with some squad adjustments im sure SA alt can also be used

[indigo spoke]

do mizuki S1 have better dmg than Ascalon s1?

[ember pine]

Best one to start with since it teaches you the mechanics with the least amount of gimmicks

[maiden thunder]

its pretty easy if u are doing it on low diff but high diff IS2 is quite the pain in the ahh

[slim tusk]

it has more upfront dmg but on practice asca will do more

[ancient lintel]

there's no special mechanics apart from "plays" and "hallucinations" lol

[copper oracle]

no bc ascalon dot lasts for 2394543582340234 seconds

[craggy quiver]

wait, IS"2" is the leftmost one? 👀

[lunar apex]

[copper oracle]

IS1 is temporary event and permanetntly gonezo

[maiden thunder]

IS1 was ceobe drug trip

[lunar apex]

I must have skill issue because I find this harder than mizuki IS

[ripe prairie]

I only m3 his.. s3..

[craggy quiver]

seems like i fell into 2 fallacys there ...
i had assumed the leftmost was the first and the easiest to do

[copper oracle]

s3 uses modX
s2 use modY
if u use him in IS obviously do the IS mod

[knotty wave]

one thing i hate a lot about it is when youre starting on floor 1 and the game just throws Survivalist debuff on you

[ember pine]

It’s no big deal lol

[median crest]

its fine to leak enemies in ToN?

[maiden thunder]

exu2 start and i explode

[copper oracle]

yeah

[lone valley]

Its the easiest mechanics wise

[ripe prairie]

Im not really using.. just kinsly building up OPs that might be useful

[ancient lintel]

ah yes, survivalist f1 with no medic, the true phantom n solitare experience

[copper oracle]

it is the easiest tho

[ripe prairie]

Thank you very much kind sir

[copper oracle]

how is this an issue the enemies just die by themselves

[humble nova]

is Civilight Etern- good?

[craggy quiver]

then it seems like i have ski issue
... i should maybe build more characters to E1 to have more flexibility if voucers feel like trolling me

[copper oracle]

n*che (bad)

[ancient lintel]

it's easiest mechanic wise, but can also fck you up hard due to bad RNG
I dont think I have that much problem with the RNG dies in IS3 or collaps value in IS4 lol

[maiden thunder]

build 3* such as popukar,spot,kroos,steward,fang and ansel

[craggy quiver]

if i get 2 caster voucers i can just toss one into the garbage can, since amiya is my only somewhat leveled caster, same applies to a bunch of vouchers

[copper oracle]

get the free 3 star

[craggy quiver]

2/6 there

[ember pine]

Sounds like you’re just too new then lol, it’s fine.

[knotty wave]

recruit the 3 stars or the temporary casters

[magic dome]

Her S3 makes your ops immortal what?

[indigo spoke]

is medals of event like vector breakthough#1 never obtainable again?

[copper oracle]

not immortal

[ember pine]

When is that relevant

[humble nova]

Is mastery and module worth putting on medic amiya for IS?

[craggy quiver]

the free units sniff glue and i havent built the 3 stars 😆
i do have Fang & Kroos leveled, the other 3 stars are Level 1

[copper oracle]

its not even immortal, ive literally have my ops died under CE s3 or under ng s3 (vs arts enemies)

[knotty wave]

unless they run that specific version of vector and you missed the event, yes

[maiden thunder]

skip the mod just s2 masteries

[ember pine]

But how will I heal the bird

[magic dome]

Oh that sucks then.. cuz before I never had anyone died using her S3 iirc that's why I though she's good

[ancient lintel]

-10 ingots 4 u

[copper oracle]

u dont play hard enough stages where the enemies deal high dmg

[magic dome]

Fair enough

[knotty wave]

maybe because youre only playing on content where enemies hit like a wet noodle

[polar hollow]

s3?

[ember pine]

Mfw medic

[craggy quiver]

e.g. all Supporters i have ... realistically i can pick
Podenco, Free Caster, Tragodia if not broke

[humble nova]

is medic amiya usable outside of IS?
And correct if im wrong, but her s2 removes ASPD and Movement speed on enemies? 0-o

[copper oracle]

s3 yeah, the old record was lin + yato for crown mouthpiece relicless

[craggy quiver]

so i kept grabbing podenco, but she feels quite bad here

[knotty wave]

temporary caster or orchid if you want a slower

[ember pine]

You just take orchid. Once again, you’re just a bit new and a bit broke. This will stop being a problem later

[amber thorn]

When is Eyjafjalla Alter back

[knotty wave]

jan

[signal dragon]

off rate and sparkable in jan

[copper oracle]

she is whatevah not worth rly

[ember pine]

Never, unless you spark her or just get super lucky, so if you’re even a little bit sane, you won’t worry about it

[amber thorn]

Cant buy her for 300 certs?

[maiden thunder]

usable is a low bar,just keep her in IS and yes you can read

[craggy quiver]

i like podenco, but in IS2 she feels quite weak

[ember pine]

You can. It would be a very bad idea

[slim tusk]

mayhaps because she is weak outside of IS too

[amber thorn]

But shes the best healer right

[humble nova]

no, Haruka is mwahahhaha

[amber thorn]

Oooo shall see whos that

[humble nova]

literally on the banner with hoshi 2 side by side

[ember pine]

She already wasn’t, haruka aside

[knotty wave]

its a 1-time per battle skill so evn if you retreat amiya after the skill ends, you wont be able to use it again

[humble nova]

oh thats unfortunate

[solid grove]

i need help making my firsdt squad i just started back playing

[maiden thunder]

this could be solve by following the pinned messages>useful links>newbie vouchers>newbie teambuilding guide. the only note worthing thing is you can use blaze alt e1 for arts dps(dont e2 her)

[balmy panther]

story events are rerun once with medals

all other events are once and done in terms of medals

[solid grove]

got it