help

[cursive maple]

you dont farm lmd, you base makes it for you

[oak shale]

Ok last question for today frens. When you do x6 auto deploy, do you still gain trust from all 6? Or does it count as one

[maiden thunder]

Gain x6 trust

[oak shale]

Pog ty. Game is easy mode since I last played

[coarse notch]

always ways to get humbled if thats what you want

i dont think im good enough to adapt to these modifiers
my friends most definitely are not

[ember spear]

Hi, what should I be focusing on next. Just upgraded lemuen to e2. K I ACC just have like 3 questions lmao.

Should I get a module for one of my operators, and which one?

Who should my next e2 or operator I need to upgrade be?

And I'm always running short on lmd. Have a 252 base layout. I usually farm lmd from stages. Is that normal?

Thanks

[turbid ocean]

Its a leisurely tournament with uh try hards in mind

[coarse notch]

focus on giving your exu2 and lemuen their mods and masteries
farming lmd from stage should basically never be done, how much is your base producing per day

[sour sundial]

Who should i e2 first I'm new

[coarse notch]

lemuen, stop raising exu and archetto and grani while you're at it
check new selectors in pins for more info

[sour sundial]

Thanks

[ember spear]

uhh im not actually sure. def not that much tho. liek maybe 30 to 50k? how much is normal?

[coarse notch]

40k is bare minimum, ideally 50-60k lmd a day

[ember spear]

wait is there a way i can check for sure?

[coarse notch]

go to control center, press assistant, there should be an RIIC report button

[ember spear]

k produced 33500

[tropic gale]

It looks like this

[coarse notch]

yea thats a bit low, build some more base slaves
if you need more, either wait for base to produce or get some from playing IS/RA

[ember spear]

damn ye mine looks soemthing liek taht

[ember spear]

damn alr

k ill focus on some base slaves for now b4 i e2 another 6 star again then.
once i do that, who shoudl my next e2 be?

[tropic gale]

I suggest use this to help you https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/htmlview#

[ember spear]

damn my goat

[tropic gale]

If you're noob, there's section specifically for you. Then slowly replace with better unit once you get new ops

[coarse notch]

no one really, get s2m3 mod3 for exu2 and s3m3 mod2 for lemuen

[ember spear]

o shoot alr. Ill work on that then.
Thx for all the help guys, appreciate it.

[pine inlet]

s2m3 or s3m3 for Gladiaa

[fallen depot]

Whichever you prefer, both skills gets used

[proven kelp]

S2

[radiant fog]

Is vulpis a good unit? What mastery do I do for her

[versed agate]

Decent. S3

[pine inlet]

rosmontis skin only reruns every anniv?

[turbid ocean]

Seems to be the case

/ half anni

[pine inlet]

btw, about gladiia's new skin, when will it arrive

[turbid ocean]

What new skin

[pine inlet]

my bad. not new skin. The one from EPOQUE

[torn galleon]

Is aggregate cyclicene craftable?

[fair tulip]

No
It would have a workshop option

[torn galleon]

Thanks

[torn galleon]

Yeah, the option was missing, so I had a doubt if it was due to not having it unlocked yet.

[fair tulip]

It would just be greyed out if you didn’t beat the stage required iirc

[torn galleon]

I see

[turbid ocean]

Uh it was reran in CN with Path of Life rerun

See when that comes arund

[magic sundial]

Where can I find iron in reclamation algorithm? (south, north...?)
And yes I do have the iron map

[proven kelp]

Iron is just bottom right

[pulsar relic]

How does one go about getting officers like Pith are they in the headhunting or

[slim tusk]

you don't,they are IS only ops

[magic sundial]

You can't own them as an operator, they're only temporary within special modes

[pulsar relic]

Ah ok

[verbal moon]

Hello, does anyone know if they ever released the OST for the il Siracusano PV? The one with saxophone 🎷 and sora sinking a little

[minor creek]

Is kal'tsit s2 a big deal? Or am I fine with just s3 leveled

[severe crypt]

I think it had use in is6? But I don’t think it’s needed elsewhere

[minor creek]

Cheers, thanks

[crisp dawn]

https://youtu.be/yxMHXket3K8?si=rP_Hg4DxK9kLSX2c

is it this one? Wait nvm idts

[verbal moon]

Sadly no :( I know they made a video explaining how they composed the music for that trailer, but I've never been able to find said music from the trailer!

[cursive maple]

+aspd is a big deal yeah, some stages in different IS need her to use s2

[shadow bay]

do i need to repeat a stage when all garisons come out to complete medal when i have completed first clr stages on time? vector yeh

[pine pier]

which trailer ?

[verbal moon]

It was the 3d pv trailer for 'Il sirscusano'.

The music is such a bop but I've never found it over 2.5 years

[pallid creek]

Should I level them up? If yes then in what order?

[shadow bay]

ray

u can pitch in lemuen ig to add more dps

if u love is rosmo would be nice to raise after ray though

[pseudo flume]

Ray > Lemu > Typhon = Eblana = Ros

[slim tusk]

rosmo is IS slave

[worthy crater]

Is virtuosa worth upgrading to put in my team?

[slim tusk]

i'll skip typhon altogether

[pseudo flume]

No because Tragodia is arriving soon

[worthy crater]

how soon?

[hallow raft]

soon soon

[spare jetty]

soon™

[abstract schooner]

does normal exu count as laterano

[oak shale]

Soon^2

[cursive maple]

in a month or less

[pseudo flume]

I mean yes since that's her hidden faction

[abstract schooner]

ok thank you

[worthy crater]

will he be like a featured char without any other taking up the 50%?

[pseudo flume]

You can look in Reddit for the Hidden Faction stuff

[hallow raft]

Since it'll be an event revolving around him yeah

[slim tusk]

50% him,50% offrate

[pine pier]

nope they didnt released this ost anywhere (ive look thru all the official osts for this event none of them had the one in the trailer) so ya can only hear it in the trailer sadly

[verbal moon]

Man... that one and one other (stultifera navis trailer music) still haven't been released, huh. That's such a shame...

[pallid creek]

Okay, thank you

[rough sierra]

Hello, is Penance's s2 still good?

I want to m3 her s2, rn im clearing ch 14

[regal phoenix]

Is it mechanist can never reduce ulpi to 0 block if ulpi uses s2? Is ulpi s3 on activation n deactivation always refresh block back to max?

[pseudo flume]

Since when it was good?

[fiery canopy]

it should refresh since he gets redeployed yeah

[rough sierra]

Its not?

[pseudo flume]

Most of the Penans clears I saw was using S3

[warm scarab]

do y'all guys have Ascalon that I can borrow?

[pseudo flume]

I do yes just no module or only staying on E2 Lvl60

The module is a work in progress

Void#0732

[bleak gazelle]

Hey small question, I'm trying to unlock H14-22, I cleared it with Amiya ||all 3 forms|| and it still isn't unlocked. Am I missing something?

[warm scarab]

idk anything about modules

[maiden thunder]

Have u beaten 14-18 with amiya in squad?

[warm scarab]

added

[wind forge]

is anyone here have narantuya support?

[hallow raft]

Feel free to add, Plekkx#7769

[pseudo flume]

I have it set now

[warm scarab]

thanks man

[hallow raft]

accepted

[wind forge]

thankss broo

[runic rain]

yo who got ascalon s2m3

[hallow raft]

Feel free to add, Plekkx#7769

[runic rain]

thnx

[keen obsidian]

in 252 am I rushing lvl 3 factories asap (as permitted by power)

[hallow raft]

accepted

[runic rain]

added

[runic rain]

do u habe a proviso

[keen obsidian]

negative

is her base skill that crazy, I dont understand it unfortunately

[fiery canopy]

its quite crazy

[maiden thunder]

Makes it so every 2/3 gold trade turns into 4/5 gold trade every single time

[keen obsidian]

o thats so efficient wow

[hallow raft]

Takes less time to produce an order and still get orders of higher quantities.

[maiden thunder]

Yeah the time to produce for order stays at 2/3 while u get 4/5 gold trade truly an operator

[vivid yew]

If i buy multiple copies of 5 star units from red cert shop, will i get yellow cert?

[hallow raft]

Personally I wouldn't do it thou

[keen obsidian]

If I dont have proviso, is it a lvl 3 factory or lvl 3 TPs angle. The precious metals dont actually matter right? Its the TPs that make the money, so I go TP to make money?

[maiden thunder]

Might as well orundum farm at that point

[maiden thunder]

Lvl3 TP angle,yes

[hallow raft]

You need gold bars to make money from tp in the first place.

[vivid yew]

I just finished all Annihilation missions, should i save the red cert?

[maiden thunder]

How bad do you need the gold certs? and yes save the red certs

[radiant pelican]

which skill to m3 for narantuya?

[vivid yew]

Not that bad, i only have about 50 right now. I want to save just in case Mlynar coming to shop

Speaking about Mlynar, is LeiziAlt his sidegrade?

[hallow raft]

You could hold off the red cert tactic until the time comes

[maiden thunder]

Leizialt can also actually lane hold with s1

[radiant pelican]

thanks, last who do i raise next here?

[maiden thunder]

Just nightingale e2 modx1 s3m3

[frank wing]

Anyone in particular I should e2 next? I also have ifrit at e1 (please don't tell me to use different operators)

[radiant pelican]

Alright, ifrit no?

Tbf i only use her for afk clears

[maiden thunder]

It depends if u are doing hard content like high risk CC sure,she has a RES shred niche

[runic cipher]

maybe lumen or enciodes

[edgy dirge]

Do i pull this one

[knotty wave]

no

[stark gulch]

silverash

[frank wing]

who is enciodes?

[knotty wave]

there will be a far better unit coming

[edgy dirge]

Ight, tyy

[knotty wave]

Silverash

[runic cipher]

enciodes silverash, silverash is family or race name iirc

[vivid yew]

Is Thorn worth to raise? I tried maxed Thorn from support before, and i'm not impressed

[runic cipher]

then not worth

[knotty wave]

hes below avg

[maiden thunder]

E2 entelechia>Sash>Nymph,Don't bother with lumen he is terrible use sussuro instead if u want an ST healer

[frank wing]

ohhh ok

[maiden thunder]

People are shading entelechia again

[lone valley]

[maiden thunder]

There is no way sash>entelechia for e2

[runic cipher]

use ansel for st healer

[vivid yew]

From beginner and selector, only Silverash and Saria are worth to build?

[radiant pelican]

I only do r18 for cc for trim

[runic cipher]

yesn't

[maiden thunder]

Don't bother

[radiant pelican]

alright, thank you

[runic cipher]

i got my yato max pot from 34 recruitment

[torn galleon]

Is there an up to date module rating spreadsheet? DragonGJY one was last updated June 2025

[vivid yew]

Is there any orundum or pull reward from IS?

[runic cipher]

no

[bleak gazelle]

18? Oh crap maybe not

Wait no I did, she's in the auto squad

[vivid yew]

Alright, time to finish base then

[crisp dawn]

Dragon’s is up until Leizi rn, no? Or do you want to know ratings for Ato+

[tepid heart]

Guys, is the term dps with actual numbers used in this game's discussions often? Like for example: "Decadenza's skill has lets say: 5k dps" is that comonly used?

[bleak gazelle]

Am I supposed to complete it with a specific Amiya form or...?

[fierce fern]

Does anyone know how to get this l2d profile pic of amiya??

[torn galleon]

Thanks

[pine pier]

keep up the grind-

[torn elbow]

what do i spend the masses travels currency on

[crisp dawn]

Not really because of how much your actual DPS varies depending on def/res and skill uptime

Correction: it’s used but doesn’t paint the whole picture

[knotty wave]

you reach 360 cumulative login days in the game

[hallow raft]

I think it's more shown in a graph. As mentioned previously by Immediately dps varies a lot by resistances, armor and stuff from enemies

[runic cipher]

on the thing yoh need, focus on grandpa pots if rerun it'll give you some yellow certs

[slim tusk]

dps and dph for phys is number that often discussed ye

[maiden thunder]

Just reset the game then

[runic cipher]

dph is damage per hour?

[slim tusk]

caster dps is pretty straighforward since res is just % reduction

[pale tapir]

damage per hit

[knotty wave]

per hit

[torn elbow]

like what cause i got lmd and exp what else do i need

[tepid heart]

oh k, yea i was kinda thinking that, since stuff like exu's s2 dps vary since the rng of the nukes vary

(exu 2)

[runic cipher]

grand pa pot already cleared? if yes just go whatever you want, loxic khol or purple rocc or just get the extra lmd instead

[torn elbow]

is it worth getting the skins?

[warped blaze]

hi guys, what is the best way to get this material?
I don't think I can clear the material stage now

[hallow raft]

If you can't clear the stage... RA for a one time chip pack I believe

[runic cipher]

yes why not basically free sin

[bleak gazelle]

Just did, didnt fix it

[tepid heart]

those cycle daily, or do u mean as in too difficult?

[hallow raft]

Well nvm bad advice.

[torn elbow]

k

[crisp dawn]

IS monthly squad

[honest coyote]

yo guys what are the buffs I need for the whole vec. event?

[warped blaze]

Yes I'm new

[tepid heart]

I mean there are some low budgets clears, u can try and find one online

[honest coyote]

ah dam lucky u have wisadel

[maiden thunder]

Take a short vid scroll through chapter 14 so I can see

[warped blaze]

Where is that?

[crisp dawn]

Terminal, second to last tab, Integrated Strategies

[hallow raft]

@warped blaze do you have your rosters at E1 lvl 40? If you don't I think you gotta make a proper team first before even thinking of Wis E2

[warped blaze]

Where is terminal, sorry I'm dumb

[pale tapir]

waltuh is whatever
she's just a stage clear button
game is more fun played without her

[warped blaze]

oh I thought wis e2 will be a huge change

[rough wyvern]

Is wis'adel will rerun?

[knotty wave]

no

[hallow raft]

It will, but like, you need a team to at least do their basics

[warped blaze]

Oh I already have a decent one, but not everyone e1

[rough wyvern]

Is limited unit will never rerun?

[vital kelp]

wisadel isn't will rerun

[crisp dawn]

Terminal is just the big button at the top right of menu you click to open stage selection

[warped blaze]

ohhh I see

[pale tapir]

she'll appear as x5 rateup on the next limited banner
and will be sparkable but not recommended to spark

[rough wyvern]

Need answer pls😭

[knotty wave]

their banner wont rerun, theyll be an offrate in another limited banner. You can get them by getting spooked or you spend 300 pulls to spark them but spending 300 for 1 unit is too expensive so we dont recommend it

[crisp dawn]

Watch every character for 6 months after saalter be absolute dogshit and there’s finally an excuse to spark Wis or exu

[maiden thunder]

just go adverse? on bot left?

[warped blaze]

this one right?

[bleak gazelle]

Oh adverse im only at 14-14

But it's weird cause chapter 15 didnt have this problem

I did adverse til a little bit before the boss and still unlocked the extra stages

[rough wyvern]

Which one is limited banner?,im new idk which one is limited😭

[knotty wave]

in reality, we are only advising you against it. You can still do it if you want to...at the end of the day its your acc

[knotty wave]

our closest one will be in january but wis wont be in it

[maiden thunder]

i mean the conditions to unlock those were simulations points

[tepid heart]

whats the next limited op?

[crisp dawn]

Hoshiguma alter, SilverAsh after that

[bleak gazelle]

Which means?

[pale tapir]

check pins for banner explanation
yt vid can help but can't guarantee accuracy for those

[maiden thunder]

for chapter 15 u just need to do simulations to unlock H Stages(extra conditions on adverse mode)

[tepid heart]

And how good is the new silverash alter? does he still detect stealth?

[bleak gazelle]

Aight but chapter 14? Am I supposed to complete Adverse? Cause the wiki doesnt specify that

[crisp dawn]

Read his kit on wiki

[rough wyvern]

Where to check who are the unit will avaible on the next limit banner?

[tepid heart]

Oh they post the ones that are only in cn in the wiki?

[crisp dawn]

Pretty decent and has some funny interactions (Ulpi S3 nuke) but not broken

[bleak gazelle]

Dammit... aight then ima do adverse

[tepid heart]

I didnt know that++

[knotty wave]

check pins under useful links section. Upcoming Banner Priority

[rough wyvern]

Alr,thx yall😼

[knotty wave]

we highly advise against sparking coz we are in an era of great banners back to back. Its better to spread your pulls on different great banners than spend all of it in 1 unit

[pale tapir]

as someone who sparked wis on exu banner, definitely spread your pulls if the roach isn't your favorite character of all time

[pseudo meadow]

how big is skalter's buff again? 200 atk? 400 atk?

[cursive maple]

tragodia can block aerial units with s3, yes?

[turbid ocean]

Yes

[cursive maple]

W

[knotty wave]

s2m3 266 no mod

[tepid heart]

Decadenza is the best op with global range right?

[cursive maple]

well ofc we dont have plenty

[delicate ibex]

Depends on which skill. I think s2 is almost 300.

S3 is about 500 I think

[tepid heart]

Cuz ive been using her in annis instead of wis and omg, i didnt know other operators were good

[pseudo meadow]

holy moly that's bigger than I thought

[knotty wave]

its not rly...because it doesnt get added to any buffs the op may have

[delicate ibex]

Im counting her 1.08 bonus though for having 2 operators within range. A bit lower without

[pseudo meadow]

was about to make a question to inspiration applying to that thanks

[knotty wave]

Inspiration as a buff just sucks 🙁

[turbid ocean]

The buff is only significant on direct scaler operators yeah

And even then buffing in general content is kind of dead

[hallow raft]

If your dpser's skill is like +70% instead of deals 250% damage then it won't be of significant benefit for them yeah.

[delicate ibex]

Eh it's still fairly strong on operators thag dont have built in atk buff (atk modifiers are fine).

And even with atk buffs, its fairly significant for low atk operators like drone casters

[warm scarab]

how do I clear IW - 9?

[cursive maple]

plenty of options: yato alter, wisadel, exu alter borrow

[warm scarab]

can a newbie do some of it?

[knotty wave]

yes you borrow

[cursive maple]

you just need someone to destroy those flames, wisadel doesnt need much help, but yato alt and exu borrow might need your ops to help them destroy the flames

[warm scarab]

i tried but I'm really having hard time

[hallow raft]

tldr, borrow wis

[sacred elm]

borrow ascalon

[cursive maple]

bruh

enough discord for today ig

[warm scarab]

not wis?

[red oasis]

borrow wis

[knotty wave]

you dont need iw-9 to grab krooster tho? why're you trying to clear it? The pots are insignificant

[sacred elm]

not wis ascalon

[warm scarab]

i want krooster hehe

[shadow bay]

probably concerned with furniture killing

but then again ethan exist

[cursive maple]

you get her without clearning iw-9

[knotty wave]

exactly, you dont need to reach iw-9 to get her

[warm scarab]

no no, like I want the potential something

[sacred elm]

but potential does nothing

[knotty wave]

with ah beside her, 288

[warm scarab]

i mean small boost still give something ykwim

[shadow bay]

he just probably want it for the sake of it

[knotty wave]

its insignificant, dont bother

[formal shadow]

jus borrow wis i think she solos

[warm scarab]

yes

[knotty wave]

then grab wis and clear it

[coral tinsel]

may I ask which one I should upgrade next after exusai ?

[cursive maple]

yato alter

[shadow bay]

yato

[sacred elm]

reed and yato

[warm scarab]

i tried borrowing her but I can't clear it seems

[formal shadow]

yatwo reed2 yeah

[coral tinsel]

ohh okay thanks ❤️

[sacred elm]

saria if you dont have shu

[shadow bay]

[knotty wave]

you need to learn what the boss does so you arent doing the same mistake. Read the enemy description

[gusty dove]

anyone know how to beat Vec-c without lemuen. i feel so stupid in this event

[shadow bay]

yeh dont put eyes on it... looks like one though

[warm scarab]

oh okay

[sacred elm]

iw9 is not boss yet isnt it

[warm scarab]

imma try again latur ig, I just need to borrow a high level wis

[formal shadow]

9 is boss

[sacred elm]

do the yato s3 funny

[fiery lynx]

There is a 5 ops clear without lemuen. Dunno if you have necessary the ops

[gusty dove]

do you the link pls?

[fiery lynx]

I dont think I have the link but I can show it to you if you want

[knotty wave]

#strategy

[fiery lynx]

^^

[coral tinsel]

btw which skill should I invest for exusai?

[cursive maple]

og or alter?

[knotty wave]

alter? s2

[coral tinsel]

the alter

[cursive maple]

whatever garden said

[gusty dove]

pls do. everything is too tanky and rosmontis oneshot everyone (if only her playable version has half of this power)

[fiery canopy]

her playable version in IS has

[brittle hazel]

is regular Skadi worth building

[lone valley]

No

[brittle hazel]

evne with the module and all?

[vague swift]

Anything specific to choose or it doesn't matter?

[brittle hazel]

Horn and Degen are pretty cool for me imo

[severe crypt]

Still no she sucks ass

[shadow bay]

yep not worth

ig if u wanna dedicate urself to AH, but then again glad ulpi and to an extent spalter works enuf

[brittle hazel]

damn

[vague swift]

Alr

[coarse notch]

check pins

and only pull if you're rerolling

[severe crypt]

And no degen and horn aren’t the best picks

[late oasis]

hi can i ask, what are talents and how do i view these talents??

[prime lichen]

Ines module seems... not that impactful, am I missing something?

[coarse notch]

nope

[severe crypt]

Indeed, it’s shit, mod1 is the most you need, mod less is also fine

[coarse notch]

passives, below skills

[echo oasis]

Is there any place where I can check which side stories provide which skin in it's rewards without having to unlock said side stories first?

[severe crypt]

W I K I

[fiery canopy]

u can also just do rewards button ingame

[late oasis]

ohhhh omg thanks

[severe crypt]

Also in game yeah

[echo oasis]

Huh, how? Lemme check.

[sharp elbow]

Who?

[fiery canopy]

when ur viewing movements there will be a view between rewards completion something click rewards

[echo oasis]

None

Tequilaa

[severe crypt]

Save it for whoever you want, the lvl80 doesn’t really matter much

[formal shadow]

tachank-ACK!

[fiery canopy]

my goat

[echo oasis]

Is Amiya not worth promoting btw?

[prime lichen]

Well. You don't have a choice

[severe crypt]

Pretty much yeah, she sucks metawise

[late oasis]

what do you call the skills that the operators have for the base? like 5% morale increase if this operator used in grading post etc

[shadow bay]

not rly... but ig her medic form have bit of appreciation

[severe crypt]

Also for the levels you do need her for? Just skip them, do them later in your account life

[coarse notch]

not until you have nothing better to do

[prime lichen]

I thought you had to get her to e2 to continue story

[echo oasis]

I heard she has other versions or something. If I promote her, will all her versions be levelled?

[fiery canopy]

u dont need to do those stages to continue story

[coarse notch]

it locks you out of a couple of stages that you can skip and come back to later

[severe crypt]

You can just skip them

[prime lichen]

wish I knew that

[fair tulip]

You can skip to chapter 9 and 15

[severe crypt]

Since those versions need e2, the other versions start at e2 as well

[formal shadow]

the gates that require amiya e2 are built without fences around them

[coarse notch]

levels yes, modules and masteries have to be redone for each version but dont

[echo oasis]

But I'm a lore nerd

[magic sundial]

Which pozemka skills are good?

[coarse notch]

s3

[severe crypt]

Just skip and come back later? This ain’t cable tv

[main slate]

am i allowed to ask when trag is

[coarse notch]

you can just read it online anyways, ak story reader

[severe crypt]

Legally can’t say yet

[coarse notch]

you can ask, we cant give an answer

[formal shadow]

soon duh

[main slate]

oh okay

[crimson lava]

There is no official info about this

[random kestrel]

just go for it then
less gain and lost less

[severe crypt]

Wtf kagare ur not dead

[crimson lava]

I am dead bozo🥀

[late oasis]

i wanna ask but are there any operators really worth e1 just for their skills for base operations? or are there any operators who have 2 skills that can work for the same station

[magic sundial]

Whoever is moderating this channel, it would be cool to see a list of "all best skills for every operator", like
Kroos alter - S2
Mon3tr - S2 (support) S3 (true damage)
Etc etc

[severe crypt]

Roadless Camelot has that in pins

[prime lichen]

Am I missing any good modules

[magic sundial]

Wh

[coarse notch]

lemuen

[severe crypt]

You don’t need to lvl everyone to 90 btw

[prime lichen]

It bothers me if they're all at different levels

[crimson lava]

Lemuen, there is also fiametta, miksaparato and normal exu but I don't think you'll use them anyways so only get lemuen mod

[severe crypt]

Have you considered just keeping them at 60

[prime lichen]

I sometimes use gramps because I have a severe lack of things that aren't ranged units

[severe crypt]

You have ulpi, I see no need for gramps

[prime lichen]

But what if I want to hold 2 lanes

[gusty dove]

@fiery lynx i got the idea, thanks. (i hate this stage so much)

[severe crypt]

Thorns and kal are right there

[prime lichen]

I'm so sick of the spies let me out of chapter 12 already

[severe crypt]

Also why the need to hold a lane when wis can just kill it 🥱

[crimson lava]

Eh but not that he needs the mod if ur gonna hold 2 lanes, main benefit of mod is for lateranoknights

[late oasis]

will logos have a rerun anytime soon i want that fine ass man

[frank wing]

entelechia s2 or s3?

[severe crypt]

Uhh gonna have to cope offrate, hope for orienteering/joint op banner, wait another year till shop debut

[late oasis]

i’m asking bc i used a friend’s logos and he’s so good ok i want him 😔

[severe crypt]

Or buy the paid 6 star selector

[late oasis]

i’m trying my best to be f2p bc i alr be gambling my money on other games

[maiden thunder]

both are usable but s3 is much easier to just click without thought

[late oasis]

that being said how much is it

[severe crypt]

You can, just look at it in game

[prime lichen]

I kinda want to run this now

[safe tundra]

how much is 30 doler in kuwaiti dinar

[severe crypt]

Shit man idk

They don’t do a direct exchange that’s for sure

[median mauve]

Is the latest GL arknights update supposed to be 10gb on android

[tranquil narwhal]

Excuse me but when will Mizuki skin rerun

[lone valley]

Thats the engine update from like 2 months ago
U just didnt do it

[prime lichen]

does the robot count

[carmine olive]

Which one? Summer or arcane?

[tranquil narwhal]

Summer

[fiery lynx]

yw

[late oasis]

objectively speaking, is this worth it for the price

[severe crypt]

Summer is is3 reward

[prime lichen]

From IS

[tranquil narwhal]

What is that

[lone valley]

Yeah
One of the best values
Depending on ehat ops are left to get

[ancient lintel]

How do I unlock the birthday and celebration dialog of each operator? Do I have to wait until anniversary/the day I created my account next year to unlock those dialog?

[severe crypt]

Integrated strategies 3?

[tranquil narwhal]

I need that skin

[late oasis]

i have none of them. should i get logos or is someone better?

[lone valley]

Yea logos
If u want to buy it, that is
Since it is your money and we cant tell u to buy or not to buy it

[severe crypt]

How do you have the most time played on is3 of all ises 🥹

[prime lichen]

My son

I'm so bad at IS

[late oasis]

i have 3 days to decide whether to make a bad financial decision but tyty

[quick jolt]

so where did your self hatred begin

[prime lichen]

Long ago

[ancient lintel]

Just speed run IS5
Blue print
Lamp
Profit

[severe crypt]

You’ve got rewards sitting there for the taking

[lone valley]

exu2 = fucked lamp

[tranquil narwhal]

thanks

[proper lichen]

How long does that take u

[prime lichen]

Long I kinda just did other things

[pastel summit]

How much do you need saved up to hit pity on a banner?

[coarse notch]

depends on the banner, 249 for event debut, 300 for limited
realistically you'll never hit these

[pastel summit]

I am planning around the chart here but I don't think I will have enough to get Hosiguma

[coarse notch]

pull on tragodia first and see where you're at after

[karmic urchin]

is the damage cause by elem dmg affected by the rarity of character?

[pastel summit]

I don't have a lot of pull tickets and Orundum

[prime lichen]

I have vina and idk what to do with her

She certainly is an operator in arknights

[coarse notch]

doesnt matter, tragodia is by far the highest priority operator in the next 6 months

[coarse notch]

no

[prime lichen]

Is lappy alter going to be on hoshi banner

[vague swift]

Should I pull on these banners, cuz idk I'm new :V

[marble solar]

no

[coarse notch]

no, shes gonna be on sash2 banner, please dont spark her

[vague swift]

?

[prime lichen]

my plan is to get lucky

[coarse notch]

never pull on the banner type thats on the left, or the blue banner called kernel
do single pulls on the beginner banner until you get your 6 star, then stop

[vague swift]

The exusiai one

[slate ridge]

depends on stages and strats
i prefer S2 for most cases as its easier to plan for

[vague swift]

I'll pull on the beginner one ig

[lucid patrol]

Mudrock good?

[prime lichen]

I'm just waiting for the warfarin banner atp

[marble solar]

no

[prime lichen]

She's dodged my account for too long

[marble solar]

just take from 5* selector given for free in january (anniversary banner)

[vague swift]

Exusiai good or she gotten old?

[proper lichen]

She gotten old

[pastel summit]

When is the Tragodia banner gonna come out?

[proper lichen]

Soon

[marble solar]

monitor #game-news

[vague swift]

So I'll do a multi on exclusive headhunting then the beginner one for thorns or reed then skip on the jessica banner 👍

[quick jolt]

you missed it

[ember pine]

The beginner one is the exclusive one. Don’t do a multi, just do singles until you get a 6 star. And you can ignore the “pick 3” banner

[hallow raft]

Soon™

[vague swift]

Okay tysm

[prime lichen]

When's silence alter going to be available

[ember pine]

She is already

[compact veldt]

hello everyone, is there a set timeline for when limited banner comes out? its been more than a week since last limited banner ended so jus wondering when will the next one be coming

[carmine olive]

Free reward in the lone trail event

[marble solar]

we don't know, stay tuned - approx time should be like in january ish

[quick jolt]

the average timeframe is roughly 3 months between limiteds. theres 4 a year

[slim tusk]

limted banner every 3 months discounting collab

[pastel summit]

If you don't mind me asking what is with the symbols above the banner? Like above the name

[compact veldt]

wow thats alot of time

[turbid ocean]

uh the and ? ingame currency,
uh seems like mostly white space filler

[prime lichen]

I could have sworn I looked at that like 2 weeks ago and didn't see her there

[ember pine]

As you should since collabs aren’t limited

[ember pine]

It is now

[compact veldt]

collab banners come often?

[severe crypt]

Cuz record restore just recently activated for lone trail

[ember pine]

Nope

[compact veldt]

in the games i have played before collab characters dont do much guess its the same here as well

[severe crypt]

Record restore comes to non-chapter events 2 years after release

[marble solar]

lol, a lot of them are fantastic and very powerful here

[severe crypt]

Ash:

[regal phoenix]

Texalter from Mon hunt collab is pretty cool

[marble solar]

didn't say all of them!

[ember pine]

Collab characters can suck or be very powerful. We get one or two a year maybe. But collab isn’t limited…. Collab is collab…

[keen wagon]

hello, will profile theme packs return and how much do the paid ones cost?

[quick jolt]

#help try not to interpret "most" or "a lot of" as "all" challenge (they always fail)

[severe crypt]

Oh no I’m just taking the piss

[ember pine]

A lot implies more than half at least

[fierce viper]

Qiubai any good?

[ember pine]

High ceiling, low floor

[quick jolt]

tbf i would say exactly half of the collab 6stars are good so this is true!

[warped blaze]

hi guys, shamare is only for base right?

[ember pine]

She’s good to have for combat as well

[marble solar]

nah, she's pretty decent, tho u realistically won't need to use her outside of niche/hard content

[quick jolt]

shamare has lots of use for both her defense and atk debuffs

[ancient lintel]

Global debuff is good
Ok I worded that wrong, she has global range for her debuffs, not that she can debuff everyone on the fckin map, that would be too OP

[fiery lynx]

Lads. Isnt that yu s2 needs to be "inside" the enemy pathway to pull them?

[ember pine]

The spot they travel to has to be pathable. So like you can’t use it in hasty escape on the 2 isolated tiles for example

[radiant fog]

What mastery do I give to muelsyse

[severe crypt]

S3

[marble solar]

3

[quick jolt]

3

[radiant fog]

[lone valley]

Isnt that most houses

[pastel summit]

Is Leizi a must pull? Or I can save on that banner?

[ashen scaffold]

Should I buy anyone with yellow certs? I have like 300

[severe crypt]

Pulls

[ember pine]

There are no must pulls but she’s quite good

[carmine olive]

If you already has mlynar, she isnt

[marble solar]

no. she's solid for beginners but is lower priority for those with mlynar in acc. also a great pick for is6

[ashen scaffold]

Anyone we expecting to be coming up worth spending yellow certs on?

[ember pine]

Enjoy safe savings

[severe crypt]

Next good shop debut is ray ig, but she’s awhile away

[pastel summit]

I don’t have her and I don’t know who that is

[marble solar]

consider pulling leizi

[proper lichen]

Ray worth the gold cert?

[ashen scaffold]

I have like typhon, lemu and exu alt tho so I don’t think she’s worth for me

[carmine olive]

Then you can pull for her if you want her

[quick jolt]

jack can i pull you

[severe crypt]

Then the next good one would be ascalon less than a year away

[radiant fog]

Exu s3 or s2 best? I feel like I got baited into s2 when I see everyone uses s3.

[severe crypt]

Exu alt? S2

[ember pine]

No one uses s3 lol

[marble solar]

s2 is better for most content but s3 is the preferred choice in many hard content stages

you'll realistically never use s3 unless you do niche/hard

[radiant fog]

Every single clear I see for the new event everyone was using s3

[carmine olive]

S2 is still her best skill
S3 is only for niche/hard content

[severe crypt]

And no, the showcases on yt don’t count as “everyone”

[ember pine]

Yeah that’s the one use, congrats

[slim tusk]

s3 is pretty strong tool but s2 is the general brain dead usage

[severe crypt]

Also, she can still use s2 in vec12 🥹

[lone valley]

0 chsnce if not durin

[severe crypt]

Chsnce

[ember pine]

Better cycle better damage idk man

[lone valley]

[marble solar]

tbf s3 is pretty much her primary skill in a lot of IS stages but that is niche still...

[signal dragon]

S2 damage is just more applicable to stages than redeploying a melee op with S3 imo

S3 still good when you need/ want it though

[warped depot]

Is there a big stat difference between e2 lv90 and lv60 or is the difference not that noticeable?

[marble solar]

lv90 does not matter

[ember pine]

Completely not worth it at all, in 99.9999999% of cases

[marble solar]

well it matters but like not for you (not yet anyways)

[lone valley]

Add more 9s

[abstract mauve]

i wanna remove some 9s tho

[radiant fog]

s2 seems pretty basic and can be replaceable by anything tho. Not having s3 when you need it is just 💀

[ember pine]

Okay sure… you don’t need it

[pine pier]

is this dude any good... the offensive reco telling me no- 💀

[ember pine]

No, but that’s not why

[marble solar]

do you play d15 integrated strategies
you don't have a reason to use s3 if you don't. unless you're doing niche stuff like low op records

[abstract mauve]

he's uhhh fine. i'd argue better than a reserve operator 🥹

[regal phoenix]

If enemy is low def, will exualt s3 do more dmg than s2?

[ember pine]

Very low def, yeah

[hollow jackal]

yea

[mighty smelt]

They have almost the same total dmg anyways

[marble solar]

s3 is good just play the right content trust

[hollow jackal]

Personally i play vector breakthrough all out

[radiant fog]

I don’t play it enough to where it’s needed but I will probably just mastery it still to save myself the pain if I need it in the future

[marble solar]

ya enjoy :)

[copper oracle]

yes

[sullen jetty]

i need some advice just got e2 exalter what do i invest in skill wise?

[severe crypt]

S2

[hallow raft]

S2

[lunar apex]

s2 first then maybe s3 much later on

[sullen jetty]

ok thx

[severe crypt]

Also what is steward doing there

[copper oracle]

do my vector stages

[sullen jetty]

placeholder

[marble solar]

lazy mf &fib2

go play

[severe crypt]

So you’ll do his vector stages?

[marble solar]

no??

[copper oracle]

i play other stuff
do my vector stages

[severe crypt]

He’s asking nicely jack 🥹

[safe tundra]

we live in a cockmunity

anyway which 2nd week garrison is worth setting up

or do you just first clear

[severe crypt]

+150% ranged atk seems good

[regal phoenix]

+150 flat actually

[severe crypt]

Well damn I’m blind, doesn’t seem that good now

Maybe the 10 sp on deploy might be the best option instead

[marble solar]

+150 flat is pretty strong for like exia alter

[sleek raptor]

does it count as base stat

[slim tusk]

it goes before %atk so yes

[turbid ocean]

uh it goes before the 300% atk scale yes

but its not base

there is still the attack buff in her talent that is applied first

[sleek raptor]

I guess bards would scale the best from it, it's basically 30-50% extra atk for them

[turbid ocean]

Uh

But bards barely do much

[sleek raptor]

well yeah, it'd be an interesting interaction though. on paper though you could put that 150 atk through like 3 or 4 multipliers

[steady shoal]

I got it again, any recommendations

[turbid ocean]

Seems mostly mid, run it through a calculator

FRD could gamble kafka pots but very niche

[sleek raptor]

honestly just gamble on only senior op tag

[slim tusk]

it's base

[visual hinge]

Lemuen s3 over s2 ?

[steady shoal]

aighty

[turbid ocean]

Oh the context is VB

I thought it was +150 inspiration

[vital cloud]

Light what's kazdel kasino

[turbid ocean]

#tournament message

[sleek raptor]

that's atk scale though, it'd multiplicatively scale with normal atk + something buffs

[steady shoal]

Yo I got elysium from just sen op is he good

[turbid ocean]

the 1.18 is the 18% from her talent2
which is an attack buff

[sleek raptor]

oh I cant read

[turbid ocean]

300% is scale and wouldn't show on her stat

[steady shoal]

also should I upgrade his pot or should I just convert it to cert

[turbid ocean]

you don't have a choice

if < P6, you have to upgrade

[steady shoal]

oh alright thanks

[gaunt vapor]

Who should I use my 4 royal tokens on ? ( got from IS grind, can get 4 more with red cert/slowly to have Pot3 maybe).

[sleek raptor]

theoretically it's probably better to do it on colab units given the odds that you'll be able to ever get normal pots of them are basically zero

[turbid ocean]

Collabs way less likely to show up again

[copper oracle]

ela p3 good but idk if ur the type of player to use it

[turbid ocean]

The pots wont matter unless you know what you are doing with it

They're n*che

[copper oracle]

ela p3 only useful if ur a big nerd like light

[steady shoal]

how much better is elysium than myrtle I already E2ed my myrtle and my elysium is unbuilt should I pivot to him

[sleek raptor]

sustained output is better, you also have a more useful S2 I think

[turbid ocean]

He does more DP over time but its not worth it if you are just a general player

[copper oracle]

30% in terms of dp generation

[turbid ocean]

His util is much better anyways

[royal badger]

How many gems could u get before haruka and hoshi banner assuming u start from 0 after tragodia

[steady shoal]

oh alright thanks

[copper oracle]

assuming both m3 ofc

[sleek raptor]

I'm suprised its that much

wouldn't that beat most agents

[undone portal]

5star flags gen 18dp per skill over myrtles 14, on only a slightly slower cycle
agents can hit 18-20ish if theyre always hitting something during their entire duration

[pale trail]

Is bobbing(funny name) a good supporter if I wanna do funny burn elemental damage in regular gameplay?

[undone portal]

bobbing really only works at max investment, consider carefully

[neat mirage]

Does the max of 2 times mean max twice per battle?

[rocky vortex]

whens tragodia banner? and how long is between each banner in upcoming banner in pin ?

[undone portal]

not per battle, per deployment
each time you use s2, a 'stack' gets applied to everyone still in the deployment zone and of lower cost than the eye. this stack count maxes at 2 until you deploy them
once you retreat, its set back to 0

[sleek raptor]

it is funny but you'll only be able to barely trigger burst in a single skill cycle. afaik some levels past E2 or masteries are needed for it to not become painful to time

[neat mirage]

Ahh I see ty

[pale trail]

What about with warmy?

[undone portal]

warmy s1 is terrible at applying burn by herself, and s2 doesnt at all. either use her with bobbing to help, or not at all

[pale trail]

nvm it doesn't work that way

[neat mirage]

Typically events come out ~0-1 weeks of the previous events end iirc

[rocky vortex]

so the gap between banner and event is only 0-1 weeks ?
thats tough

[sleek raptor]

shes better than diamante I guess but like him the gains are marginal

[gaunt vapor]

Ela pot 3 is let me place 1 extra mine?( idk what that actually give me in edge). Was thinking use it on exui alt and grind red cert to have extra 8% attack at Po3. Does red cert shop reset for those royal tokens ?

[gaunt vapor]

Both him and the 6 star flag bearer is better if are max Pot like Myltner. If not not worth the effort tbh

[copper oracle]

u spawn in with 4 mines instead of 3

red cert shop doesn't reset they just add different tokens from time to time

[cold skiff]

how much longer till dead week is over? i need time to do story

[crude sage]

Everyone should I S1M3 Ines?

[copper oracle]

no

[cold skiff]

can I do chapter 9 til chapter 14 before dead week ends

[crude sage]

May I know why?

[copper oracle]

bad dmg bad util

[crude sage]

What about her module?

[crude sage]

So only Lv7 is fine?

[copper oracle]

its mid
u can get lv1 if it u want

[copper oracle]

i mean use a different skill and not s1

[crude sage]

I already S2M3S3M3

[proven kelp]

No? All flags are better than Myrtle at any point of potential. She's literally the worse Flag

For the common people, she's "enough" if they all care about is DP, she's not better or good, just "enough". If they already raised Myrtle and only wants a flag for DP, then there's no need to raise more
But if they haven't raised anyone and they have any other flag, then it's much better to raise those

[cold skiff]

?

[gaunt vapor]

Any other way to reliably farm those tokens slowly ? Or only $$ next year ?

[livid osprey]

Does pity on the jessica and pozy banner carry to tragodia? Yes right?

[proven kelp]

Probably not

[lone valley]

No, not enough sanity

[cold skiff]

how much time do i have

[cold skiff]

i have a lot of pots

[lone valley]

Yes
Doesnt excuse or validate "building pity" so dont even dare

[gaunt vapor]

So Ela pot 3 and saved the red cert tokens is better than grind red cert tokens to Pot 3 excui alt ?

[lone valley]

Using pots on story stages is kinda a waste so i wouldnt use them

[livid osprey]

I dont rly care tbh i just want a chance at cool cat lmao

[native blaze]

Still wondering where I should put the s1 shu because I don’t have e2

[proven kelp]

If you have lots of pots then it's possible, it's not really about time, it's really about how much sanity you have
If you have pots for sanity then you have enough time

[cold skiff]

it is about time tho if there's an event on monday then i can't really just spam story

[livid osprey]

Is it the same with orienteering or is that its own thing?

[proven kelp]

They will announce the event at least more than 3 days before it's released
You can easily Speedrun those chapters within a day if you ignore sanity restrictions

[cold skiff]

which stage do I get CE?

[proven kelp]

Ch14, about the last stage in it

[pseudo flume]

Just complete Ch 14

[cold skiff]

bruh im on 9-12

this is gonna take years, which stage is it you unlock guardmiya again?

[proven kelp]

Ch8

[pseudo flume]

Just a week or so if you dedicated enough

[cold skiff]

i haven't complete chapter 8, should I just skip it

and do chapter 9, i just want CE

[proven kelp]

Sure
You're better off doing ch9+ for the recipe unlock

[copper oracle]

well exu p3 is useful in everystage but ela p3 only useful for nerds

cos exu p3 is 8% more atk lol

[proven kelp]

How about a p5 exu

[copper oracle]

u can get 1 set for 540 gold certs

[cold skiff]

does zhu le have any significance in current content

[lone valley]

It also shares pity
Still, dont pull

[twilit owl]

is pozymeka hard to use like ray?

[copper oracle]

p5 exu gain is pretty low

[proven kelp]

Zuo le? Sure, he's still pretty decent

[copper oracle]

both arent hard 🚬

[proven kelp]

Damn 🥹

[lone valley]

Pot3 exu was like 10k dmg diff, pot5 only 4k? Or sum like that

[twilit owl]

🥹 oh oka, just need to get used to it i guess

[cold skiff]

when exu alter steal asdp, what happens if the op she steal from have less than the asdp she steals

[lone valley]

She steals only enough ti leave the op at 20aspd minimum

[faint ledge]

want to consult which unit should I get logos/mylnar/ines from pack, I linked my krooster on my profile

[livid osprey]

Yep yep meta i know.

[cold skiff]

but does she still get all the asdp in her skill

[lone valley]

Logos
Isnt much competition im afraid

[proven kelp]

Wdym sir
Mlynar is right over there

[lone valley]

Well, no
If she only steal 50, she gets 50
She cant gain ehat she cant steal

[cold skiff]

so you should use her with a highg asdp unit?

[turbid ocean]

Doesn't matter

[cold skiff]

what happens if the unit she steals from only has asdp during their skill?

[turbid ocean]

Just dont have the target of steal not be on skill while Exu is

[proven kelp]

Is this different from Ines stealing from nothing?

[turbid ocean]

Exu skill exhausts so fast anyways
Just stop the skill when done with current wave

[sleek raptor]

thats only if aspd matters on that unit

[lone valley]

Apparently yea
Hg and its consistency

[proven kelp]

Damn

[covert mica]

should i swap anyone with specter?

[pseudo flume]

No one tbh

[proven kelp]

Wdym only has during their skill? All units has a baseline of 100 Aspd, what you are thinking is attack interval

You can plop Exu s2 on anyone and still get her max aspd steal, unless the enemy is debuffed with aspd down

[hexed adder]

Even bards has it

[cold skiff]

what if the unit has less than the amount she steals, but then they use their skills and get an asdp boost, then does she steal more or the same amount

[hexed adder]

en hand

[eager rapids]

anyone i should be raising here

[hexed adder]

Dorothy

[cold skiff]

is it worth e2-ing caper

[fading yacht]

am i reading this right? the ATK bonus increases by 85% when attacking elites?

[cold skiff]

for base

[ember pine]

Omg I love off topic media

[fading yacht]

or dmg increasses by 15%

[ember pine]

+25% additive attack buff, then has 15% multiplicative buff separately on top

[fading yacht]

crazy

[turbid ocean]

Please see channel rule 4

[carmine olive]

Not really

[cold skiff]

how do you get caper

[hexed adder]

[carmine olive]

In the red cert shop

[shadow bay]

oh its muffin

[fiery canopy]

[proven kelp]

Did the unit use increase their aspd before exu steal them? If yes she gets more, if no then she doesn't

[cold skiff]

so she doesn't lose asdp when the unit lose it

[proven kelp]

No
She steals it

[ember pine]

Exu gaining aspd and operator losing it are fully independent events

Once the steal happens, they stop having anything to do with each other

[cold skiff]

say a unit with 50 asdp
they use skills that last 10 seconds and get to 150 asdp
exu use skill to steal asdp in that 10 second
then unit run out of skill and return to 50 asdp
exu retain the stolen asdp?

[oak shale]

Any suggestion? Idk jack about 5 stars

[proven kelp]

Again, she steals it

If i stole your phone, and your house burnt down, does that mean the phone i stole will also be burnt?

[fathom nest]

Save it

[cold skiff]

just answer my hypothetical

[proven kelp]

No

[radiant fog]

Wait what if my unit have less then 70 aspd? Do they just don’t attack when exu steals aspd?

[cold skiff]

so she doesn't retain asdp

[hexed adder]

It never ends well with him

[ember pine]

If there is a valid streak target when skill cast, she gets 70. End of story

[oak shale]

Oh ok. For anyone specific?

[shadow bay]

use it to your best dps or something

or someone u like

[fathom nest]

A dps of some sort would appreciate the levels if you end up raising one

[shadow bay]

its just levels u can live wherever u use it... but yeh those are the ideal case of usage

[cold skiff]

i just want a yes or no to my hypothetical

[oak shale]

I can't imagine using a 5* dps when i have stuff like wis and exu2. Could be wrong though

I'll just sit on it

[knotty wave]

once the steal happens, its the end of story. Even if the op that got stolen gain aspd it doesnt change a thing

its a 1 instance transaction

[fathom nest]

Maybe you'll end up finding one you really like as a waifu even though they're garbage. Usually who gets a max level in my account

[oak shale]

Absolutely based

[cold skiff]

@knotty wave so a yes or a no

[knotty wave]

she will get the 70 aspd regardless of what happen as long as there is a target she can steal it from

[slim tusk]

just say yes and end this circus

[oak shale]

The choice is now clear thank you socks

[fathom nest]

[bitter anvil]

where is true damage actually practically useful enough to justify bringin an op like vina/mon3tr over something else?

[knotty wave]

she retains the stolen aspd

[fathom nest]

IS

[cold skiff]

does she get 70 asdp if unit has less than 70 asdp

[knotty wave]

yes

[turbid ocean]

Uh usually there is almost always a way to avoid "needing" True Damage

[ember pine]

Your hypothetical is answered btw….

[cold skiff]

what so she steals from a unit with 50 asdp she still get 70 and not 50

[turbid ocean]

the only real place where True damage is used in IS is for IS5 ED2 high end if no proper solve (Shu/shifters)

[carmine olive]

In IS or CC

[bitter anvil]

so Vina is still not justified, actually would Mon3tr still be a justifiable unit to pull if her s2 didn't give more aspd?

[turbid ocean]

It is not used in CC

Damage bloat

💀

[hollow moat]

Having a severely hard time on IS-5 funny enough cause the Auto deploy is failing

[knotty wave]

in fact, you can retreat the op that got stolen and exu will still have the stolen aspd as long as her s2 is still active

[bitter anvil]

isnt cc just cooked with so many risks relating to minus attack and enemies are so tanky

[desert yoke]

in past years, true damage was most often useful as a way to circumvent damage mitigation in one form or another (e.g. phys/arts dodge/damage reduction)

[ember pine]

Idk depends man

It would hurt her certainly

[turbid ocean]

Uh Mon3tr S2's main appeal is alot of healing, and is her main skill
S3 is good too generally by nature of having relatively higher true damage for how flexible it is
Mon3tr is meta for IS5

[desert yoke]

sources of true damage typically have neutered damage totals to compensate for the fact that it's very unusual for an enemy to resist true damage in some way

[cold skiff]

why call it stealing asdp if she gonna get 70 regardless? like she steals from unit with less than 70 asdp and she still get 70?

[desert yoke]

because it's a japanese org half-assing translations from chinese to japanese to english

[bitter anvil]

wow healing 😭 I actually never care about healing and put the ops in her range that benefit from aspd and see the shenanigan 😭😭

[fathom nest]

Ops also have 100 aspd by default so

[cold skiff]

is it bad to use the rotate function in base? is it better to do it manually for staggering rotation

[copper oracle]

omg hi igneous

[bitter anvil]

so help would still tell people to pull mon3tr even if aspd buff didn't exist with the banner lineups we have

That's good to know actually

[fathom nest]

Depends on your setup really but if you rely on specific comps then yeah you'd want to manually do it

[turbid ocean]

Uh no, that ASPD buff is decent part of it

Its not all the appeal, but its also not a small one seems 50/50

[bitter anvil]

aspd can't go in negative anyways, technically if a unit had 50 aspd they should be left with -20 after exu steal

but game code doesn't allow, there is a min aspd cap iirc

[cold skiff]

damn useless feature then

[turbid ocean]

Uh

[desert yoke]

aspd floor is 20

[fathom nest]

Actually, are there any skills that lower aspd? I know there are plenty of interval changers but

[turbid ocean]

Uh perfumer

fraud

[copper oracle]

socks fraud

[cold skiff]

yeah but like if a unit has 50 asdp and get stolen by exu, she should get 50, i don't understand why she get 70

[ember pine]

How broken is wiki

[copper oracle]

steal is a keyword and it has worked like that since ines release anyway

[desert yoke]

"steal" is just an approximation of the effect in more plain english
she's not literally stealing it, she's debuffing them by X and buffing herself by Y

[regal phoenix]

Atk spd is not a stat, is like a modifier thingy, so

[fathom nest]

ngl completely forgot

[bitter anvil]

it's not the right word then I guess, point is if there is a unit in front of exu, exu gets motivated and shoots faster

[fathom nest]

Been a while since I've used her

[regal phoenix]

So u can steal or lose as much as u want.. Is a modifier to the atk spd, is not a real stat.. Is a relative stat

[knotty wave]

part of the reason shes good is because of that 53 aspd from s2. We rarely get an aspd buffer mainly just Aak and Shu before mon3tr existed

[copper oracle]

s2 is 61 aspd if ur rich or 56 if ur poor

[regal phoenix]

What a unit has is an atk interval.. When u lose atk spd, u have a formula to calculate ur new atk interval

[timber quail]

if I'm still using fang as one of my vanguards is it worth it to go grab puzzle and level him to replace him?

[knotty wave]

unless m3 is your waifu, no sane man would dump that amount to push 56 into 61

[regal phoenix]

So let's say exu steal from this guy, this guy now atk every 3 sec or so n can permanently stun enemies now

[desert yoke]

i feel like it's more confusing to try and say aspd is not a stat

[bitter anvil]

yeah that's what I have been sayin, I don't care about healing at all

she gives so many operators aspd like it's some free candy, aak used to buff only 1 and almost kill the op in the process

I haven't even used mon3tr s3 once since I got her

it's just me putting gg and logos in mon3tr range and watching everything die whenevrt I press button

[copper oracle]

how many more times am i gonna have to see the exu nothing combo 🚬

[ember pine]

The only welfares worth leveling for early game players are tequila and kroos alter

[slim tusk]

giraffe as an ally when

[desert yoke]

count how many times people called him bad in the game's formative years and use that as a guide ig

[bitter anvil]

With New module, is Vina justifiable to build if I get her as offrate

[timber quail]

I'm at my main team all like e1 lvl 40 or e2 lvl 60 for silverash/lemuen/exu2, just trying to find if there are any welfare upgrades for the team

[ember pine]

Nope

[knotty wave]

youll quickly learn that most welfare arent event worth paying attention to unless you submit yourself to playing BadKnights

[desert yoke]

true, play 5* only

[timber quail]

What should I do about vanguards then? having fang maxed at e1 and needing more vanguards seems like it would be worth to go grab something that can at least be leveled past that

[ember pine]

Can’t you just e1 Myrtle

[copper oracle]

i would say so ya shes has good total true damage just wait for the stage just needs that 🚬

[ember pine]

[timber quail]

I have elysium as my other one and I thought having 2 flag bearers didn't really work bc they tend to fail early when they can only block 1 unit

[shadow bay]

[ember pine]

Oh well then you’re fine….

[knotty wave]

if youre facing a stage with early dog rush you can run 1 flag and your fang to lanehold early wave

[regal phoenix]

Maybe we will say atk spd is relative n not absolute like Einstein say about time how much a unit is affected by atk spd depend on their atk interval, so +50 atk spd can look different for different units

[bitter anvil]

so like lin, no need to build until her need popped up in ccb2

[jovial urchin]

Chat, what is Mechanist's shield HP?

[ember pine]

Check wiki

[desert yoke]

no this is about the definition of "stat", as in a numeric value that affects the outcome of a unit's actions
aspd affects how fast a unit attacks through the formula based on their attack interval
aspd is a stat

i get what you're angling for, but the premise is faulty

[copper oracle]

sure

[desert yoke]

explaining attack interval and aspd is just going to be confusing, that's HG's fault

[copper oracle]

vina was used in ccb3 guard branch 🚬

[shrewd peak]

Very relevant

[real hare]

which logos skill is the one I should use?

[knotty wave]

[shrewd peak]

S3

[jovial urchin]

Takes quite a while to check wiki (device diff), can anyone give me a rough estimate if you don't remember?

[fathom nest]

It's 50

[jovial urchin]

[fathom nest]

Hitcount and all

[jovial urchin]

Alright thanks

[knotty wave]

you can use a hitcount op to deplete it fast

[jovial urchin]

Yea I know, I'm trying to figure out a way to deplete it (specknights clear) without dumping Exu2 and Ela or Ascalon onto him

[desert yoke]

doesn't ethan have a dot

[regal phoenix]

So can I say atk spd is a relative stat n not an absolute stat or sth

[livid vortex]

anyone got a Silverash, max level, elite 2 with mastery I could borrow?

I'm uhh.. trying to clear R8-11 using a strat rn.

[hollow jackal]

is this the best thing to do or should i drop everything and leave robot tag

[desert yoke]

sure yea, or hidden stat - same as how attack interval itself is obfuscated

[slim tusk]

i do but there are a lot of better solution for that now

[copper oracle]

yato s1m3 🗣️

[fresh depot]

you're aiming for robot tag right?

[shrewd peak]

what do you want to get

[hollow jackal]

i do want a robot yea

anything but castle and phonor pls

[livid vortex]

I could really use your help if you have Silverash.

[slim tusk]

friend id?

[regal phoenix]

What if Yalter s2 or sth

[shrewd peak]

its probably better to just use robot specialist then unless youre unlucky enough to drop 2 tags you will get something valid

[copper oracle]

yato s2 is 32 hits

[fathom nest]

Would be better off with s1

[hollow jackal]

thats a pretty good thought process

[fresh depot]

keep in mind that robot tags aren't guarantee, and the game can outright cross them in front of your face
so i guess can just do robot specialist...
still risky to have specialist since this game is kinda biased

[hollow jackal]

ok spec dropped

bet i still won

[livid vortex]

Goldstein#4369

sorry for the late reply, didnt notice

[regal phoenix]

Wait a minute...can mountain permanently block giraffe n never go to block 0 if s2

[pseudo flume]

Just stall the Giraffe to death

[desert yoke]

wouldn't he just get hit by the mechanist's special attack again

surely it's easier to devise a burst strat than a stall strat

[proven kelp]

Block down stacks

[pseudo flume]

It would be easier if the last buff is available

[desert yoke]

just use your funny 6*s and kill

i don't see the problem, unless you're poor

[safe tundra]

how many revive does he has on 12 again

[pseudo flume]

Its unlimited until both are dead at same moment no?

[safe tundra]

well yes.

then im guessing he only goes two phases still

[timber quail]

The texas you get from pinboard missions worth using?

[safe tundra]

but last run i couldve sworn i saw him get up the third time

mechanist didnt leave the field

[desert yoke]

nah not really, 5*s are generally more expensive than they're worth
texas herself is pretty whatever at this point

[pseudo flume]

2 phases yeah with the halfway point of phase 2 getting an invincibility frame

[knotty wave]

he becomes invulnerable when you reach 50% hp in p2

[safe tundra]

nah it wasnt half

i drained both his and giraffe robot's HP to 0 as im finished with the enemy waves of 2 minibosses and cars

high time i remembered it incredibly wrong

[knotty wave]

try and record your runs, emus have that built in

[safe tundra]

[fiery canopy]

💊

[proven kelp]

🍋

[safe tundra]

does mechanist in a way lost small bit of damage on p2 btw? cause he stops eventually killing ulpian without baiting his occasional burst

[fiery canopy]

in p2 he just starts spamming the arts attack

an at 50% p2 he prios spamming it on the one blocking the giraffe

[pseudo flume]

I find the giraffe more of a hassle than him on P2

[safe tundra]

oh ic. thats huge dps loss for sure because arts burst are typically weaker against bloated HP

[regal phoenix]

The atk he spam on giraffe blocker is 40% scaling, it's his weakest atk

[thorny edge]

does he even launch the cross attack if the giraffe isnt blocked

[safe tundra]

s3m3 gladiia solo was devious cope that i have no idea why did i do that. so i just started slamming the 6★ frds on subsequent trials

[dense kraken]

Is the excel sheet for which packs to buy in the pins?

[pseudo flume]

I used Gnosis and Hoederer for mine

[thorny edge]

like the moment he dropped into his invincibility section on p2 i lemuen'd the giraffe to get rid of it, so idek

[fiery canopy]

he doesnt

[thorny edge]

what a hack, just kill giraffe

[fiery canopy]

[tulip cliff]

Is she good to build rn?

[pseudo flume]

I don't think so?

[safe tundra]

ya well i was shredding his shield with only ulpian and exu. takes quite awhile

[dense kraken]

Does anyone have a link for the packs efficiency

[thorny edge]

wdym exu removes it so fast

[dim sluice]

Why even bother just use monster

[thorny edge]

use s3, its better anyways

[fiery canopy]

all she does is kiss saria sadly

[safe tundra]

i cant borrow both s3m3 exu and s2m3 yu at once can i 🥹

[dim sluice]

Sadly no

[knotty wave]

you missed both their banners? how?

[thorny edge]

s3 doesnt need masteries

[pseudo flume]

Can we add the pack spreadsheet into the helpful links pin? @fathom nest

[safe tundra]

no i just didnt do s3 exu. i just e2 yu like days ago

[dim sluice]

For the giraffe and guy with shield just surtr the giraffe and mon3tr the guy worked for me no mastery just e2

[tulip cliff]

And this is why I ask help for this characters

[thorny edge]

haruka is better, just get her

[pseudo flume]

We have Haruka coming up in 6 months

[tulip cliff]

Noted

[thorny edge]

6?

[dim sluice]

Sanctuary merchant

[pseudo flume]

Its like around 5 - 6 months

Wait no I'm thinking of SA

[thorny edge]

[dim sluice]

How fast will rerolls take to get to lvl 50

[pseudo flume]

I mean 3 months btw

[safe tundra]

we should retire astrelgpt

[dim sluice]

Acc lvl 50 just to clarify

[pseudo flume]

Nuh uh

[odd sky]

i still don't get it

[safe tundra]

the question still kinda misses me

do you just mean how long does it take to start the game and speedrun to lvl50?

[dim sluice]

Yea acc lvl 50 not operator lvl

[fiery canopy]

lvl 50 took me around 20 days iirc

[safe tundra]

it kinda depends on your sanity inventory

[karmic urchin]

is ceobe that good, I think her damage is pretty low

[odd sky]

that's coming from the grindiest newbie i know

[fathom nest]

Remind me in around 12 hours

[pseudo flume]

He thing is shredding enemies with High Def

[dim sluice]

Assume a monthly and a limit of 20 days op can also be used

[safe tundra]

she doesnt have any standalone damage. she scales on DEF to start ramping damage

[fiery canopy]

didnt need to use op

[pseudo flume]

Ceobe dmg is based enemy def ya

[karmic urchin]

wait which skill do we use

[pseudo flume]

S2

[safe tundra]

2, to ramp the modX2-3

[fleet spire]

She needs m3 and mods too

[copper oracle]

oh ya @desert yoke while ur here, to my understanding, in order to extend freeze, u need to apply cold twice while the enemy is still frozen, is this true

[pseudo flume]

Mod3 Really Dry Bread btw

[safe tundra]

we still on permafreeze theorycrafting?

[thorny edge]

doesnt freeze only stop freezing when all of the cold timers run out or smth

[regal phoenix]

Only when doing nirvana protocol, otherwise no

[pseudo flume]

I mean Fib moved on from Twinks and went to Nerdge instead

[desert yoke]

being real i don't remember sry
i can see HG doing it that way tho

it's a very HG thing to do to have all of the chill/freeze timers tracked individually

[pseudo flume]

Oh ya fib, what are you hyper optimizing now?

[regal phoenix]

Damn the debuff goes though block+1 skill

N toggling it doesn't remove the debuff

[safe tundra]

they just told you the negative block debuff can stack

[desert yoke]

block+1 works for stage modifiers because they only happen one time
mechanist's skill continues to apply over and over

[safe tundra]

you will continue to lose block until it goes to 0

[umbral fulcrum]

Hello it's me again, asking for suggestions. Which operators should I E2 for sniper, specialist, and Medic?