Buff exalted staff

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I think there is something missing with how the new exalted staff feels in 1.1, it feels way worse than it did before 1.0 the AoE removed from attacks just makes you struggle when I’m solo especially with Umbra the enemies overwhelm and make you clear them one by one since theres no AoE anymore on the other hand glaive does amazing job, you can just switch to glavie and the ability can make up for that small damage difference, the sword as I tried feels way better compared to the mythic version of sword… isn’t exalted supposed to be next tier and something better or unique, it’s not that good nor unique the ability is meh… I’d like to hear opinions from people testing exa vs glaive

[short oar]

If exalted is the top tier, it should be the best Staff in the game. Makes no sense to have anything lower be better.

[regal yarrow]

I personally disagree with this. I don't think a weapons tier defines its strength and thats one of the best things about the game.

with that said buffing the weapon seems like a good idea

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isn't the monk supposed to be a tank class? you already get better armor and health and now you want him to also outclass more squishier classes for damage? sure, i'll agree with the buff, but add a flaw to it like lose 50% armor on equip

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I don’t want it to be best dps, I’m just saying exa staff went from being really good to being worse than a mythic glaive in most cases of the game, maybe just add the AoE 2nd hit back or something

[visual urchin]

it has room for buffs without surpassing sam dmg. sam is doing just shy of 15k with zero mv per phase. meanwhile im using exa, new flame armor, buffed bongos, and popping off for 4k 😂 just to get humbles by zero mv sams

[fast inlet]

seems like zany wants his old farming weapon back, but the staff is solid doesn't need anything. tank with health and wants damage on top of that?

[short oar]

agree to disagree 😛

[regal yarrow]

ok well I prefer a game where all the epics rares mythics and exalteds are playable over a game where the exalteds are so good that any gear that isn't exalted is useless and therefore bloat.

[short oar]

No, thats a different problem on its own, I agree with you

[regal yarrow]

oh then perhaps I am misunderstanding what you're advocating for?

[regal yarrow]

this implys that exalted should be the best and anything under it should be a forced opportunity cost to use

[short oar]

most likely, it would take more effort on my part to elaborate

[regal yarrow]

I wouldn't mind

[cyan zenith]

I personally prefer it when the higher higher rarity items have more niche or situational use cases that allow them to shine in those particular scenarios.

For example a bomb with a high throw time and small radius that deals a lot of damage would be amazing if you're able to predict the movements of a boss (like phoenix or certain hammu phases).

Or an armor that greatly reduces hp but greatly increases defense would be great in a hellstorm of bullets, especially when paired with a blessing like panda.

I've only used judgement for a short time (and have barely tried other staffs) so take my opinion on it with a healthy helping of salt, but from my experience with it so far it's been significantly worse for clearing regular minions/low tier bosses due to the knockback and spread out damage, as well as it not providing movement for monk. In that sense it isn't always a straight upgrade to other staffs, but as demonstrated above, can still output very high damage, which I quite like.

[fast inlet]

A lot of people seem to believe that 1 item should be the best item for everything, but I agree with them being good but for 1 specific things like you mentioned. Keep it niche

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Kyno I don’t know if you can read, but Hammurabi is solo boss yes you can do 13k damage, now give me a clip of you soloing umbra while clearing mob spaws with exa staff… I like how you post clip with no context and just say it’s fine, why is every other class so much better than monk? I play monk 24/7 and I’m pretty sure you grinded your ass eating food and trying to get that 13k to prove a useless point, exalted has no use or special use for being better than glavie, it can do the same damage maybe 2-3k less with glavie when you dont even try, also love it when a guy who i’ve seen play monk twice tells me that… but oh well no wonder why I get mad because you have no point but damage number and here’s your example why it’s fine

so let the damage stay the same and everything just add back AoE 2nd hit

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also what specific niche is the exa staff good in? Being only exa thats trash now? even sword is way better compared to the other sword mythics, but I guess sword should be the best in slot but exa staff should be second to glavie… I don’t understand why we even have exalted weapons with such a low drop rate when they are shit and outbeat by mythics

[fast inlet]

Took me literally 1 try... So you want the best and rarest weapon for AOE farming tool not as a boss killer. The niche is boss killing weapon instead of do it all like it used to be. The difference is a 40% damage increase from jade/glaive

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I want exalted weapon feel good not be top dps (which it never was), it’s so useless now, used to be amazing for most of the parts of the game now it doesn’t even cover one, just saying I played with glaive and it doesn’t feel much different if anything feels much safer better with its great ability…

[fast inlet]

I think the attack pattern used to be the same as the tiered no? Swipe/ 2 projectiles?

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yeah but the 2 projectiles were one after another

[fast inlet]

As of right now the fan does excellent single target dps and is on par with samurai's maybe a little better if I optimize the blessings to make use of the stun and daze that hamu does, but as an umbra killer it also isn't the only class than has trouble there. Maybe remove the trapper mobs that also throw out traps, but then again what is there to replace them with? Maybe it'll help with 2 tabi charges to phase through more of the traps on the floor idk i'm just spit balling some ideas.
I'll come back and add to this if I manage to drop a glaive to try it out, but I do think that there's gotta be some compromises when trying to compare weapons. If its just like you said that its a more complete weapon with the only difference being dmg then thats fine. I rather carry 1 weapon and not 2.

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[fast inlet]

can this topic die already gah damn

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Nope
Buff the fan

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monk already does 2nd or 3rd most dps if you can't get there "skill issue"

[nocturne garden]

Kyno not everyone wants to play with rares and uncommons please you’re the only person who enjoys using trash gear and i’ve never seen you in a better gear… the game is going to die before the topic of exa buffs and not only fan every exalted needs a buff…. and you can’t use that stupid “skill issue” with me since i’m better than you 😅

but i don’t play the game so idc 😂

[fast inlet]

If you say so