Long Term Ideas | Born Again | Page 1

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 8:13 AM

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Personal Island
Purchasable with honor or medallions. Maybe customize your traditional Japanese home there.

Ascended Crystals
Converting 10 crystals to 1 by going to a designated spiritual NPC to preform the task. Each ascended Crystal boosts an individual stat by 1 point depending on the trait of that Crystal to a limit. (May solve stackable crystals that have been requested)
Ex: 1 ascended Defense Crystal will increase your defense stat by 1 pt until death.

Sepukku
Can be committed by traveling through a dangerous dungeon/event? Once the overlord(Akuma derived as Satan for Japanese folklore) dies, you can begin the spiritual transition to an “afterlife realm”. Giving you the ability to increase the level cap of blessings to a limit from 20 -> 25 there per class.
Ex: after reaching the “afterlife realm” you can spend 250 honor or specified medallion cost to permanently increase the max crystals of the dragon blessing from 20 -> 21. Each upgrade becomes more expensive (other things also available in the afterlife realm just haven’t thought so far into it). You will also be able to come back to the spirit realm with your equipment & remove blessings you don’t want anymore(if the devs feel that this option is viable).

Subscription Plan
A monthly plan involving exclusive quests, 1 pet, subscriber badge, etc.

Fishing
I mean this is perfect. Imagine all the sushi I’d be able to craft it would feel surreal.

Horses
Iffy about this implementation. Allows you to ride a horse around the map. You can not use abilities, attacks, be in combat, or in dungeons & encounters on the horse. It has its own health which means mobs can still dismount you. If dismounted your horse dies, you can remount in a certain time frame. Horses may also jump over borders but also have a time constant to do so. The more I write about this addition the more I realized I just robbed the idea from Albion, could work though potentially!

rough oxide Dec 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Personally I'd prefer teleporting like in darza to horses

signal bridge Dec 30, 2023, 2:54 PM

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I quite like the fact you can't teleport, makes you actually explore and get a feel for the map and feels way more immersive
Teleporting is also a quite flat mechanic, there's not really a lot you can do with it once it's added, while mounts are way more open ended and could have very cool and unique uses in the future

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:24 PM

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you can check #outreach, there were a lot of reasons why subscriptions never happened, i personally radically prefer mtx

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i think making the map way larger and adding settlements will have a happy balance of you walking to your boss, it was that way in alpha and there were no issues

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:25 PM

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keen swan you can check <#1160629568894402560>, there were a lot of reasons why subscripti...

Yea I remember but that plan involved restricting the consumer from classes and bank slot space. This subscription would give no advantage to another person other than lookin cooler I guess

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Eh I didn’t like how I phrased that

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:26 PM

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yea a mild subscription seems like a nice idea

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more like a vip thing

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:26 PM

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It didn’t allow people without the subscription to use certain classes and increase bank slots is what I should have said

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:26 PM

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ngl the crystal idea is cool

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i always wanted more types of crystals

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maybe you could combine crystals to all sorts of other types, but maybe not 10 at a time maybe like 3-5

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:27 PM

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keen swan i think making the map way larger and adding settlements will have a happy balan...

But bro come on horses, like that sounds quite badass

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:27 PM

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it would fit easily in the game if you just treat the current crystals as the lowest of the hierarchy

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:27 PM

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tranquil minnow But bro come on horses, like that sounds quite badass

yea idk i feel like they might take away from movement options & also be really hard to add

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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Maybe. We did get to see them during alpha just not use em

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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id say just let people pump speed more too

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but that would include my buildmaking ideas i already said in #1188144770376286298

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aka stat crystals & level up menus

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:30 PM

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How do u feel about the permanent increase in blessings with honor to a limit? I for one wasn’t sure about the implementation, but I’ve noticed a lot of people want some sort of permanent buff. I thought it could be a reasonable idea

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:31 PM

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idk i dont like that purely because i think you should be able to build blessings in a number of different ways

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like, i could sacrifice my blessing power for more stats

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or i could sacrifice stats for additional blessing buffs

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:32 PM

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keen swan idk i dont like that purely because i think you should be able to build blessing...

It wouldn’t deter you from doing so. You’d be able to essentially upgrade your blessings

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:32 PM

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im not sure, my idea would have you have different blessing outcomes every character

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:33 PM

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And you can choose which ones you’d like to upgrade maybe?

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:33 PM

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also permanent upgrades are sort of bad when blessings are the entire gameplay loop atm lol

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:34 PM

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keen swan also permanent upgrades are sort of bad when blessings are the entire gameplay l...

That’s why the idea is long term 😉

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:34 PM

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oh wait i read it again

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yeah i like it i thought what you were saying is like

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having blessings be pre-upgraded lol

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but increasing the level cap is very good i think that would be great for fluid endgame progression

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:35 PM

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Yea that bullet point was quite long and tricky to understand without going in my brain and visually seeing it

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:36 PM

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also getting uniques from fishing would be cool

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ik some rpgs have like crazy good fishing item sets lol

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also, the honor crystal idea will require people to be sacrificing characters to progress further in the game which is crazy good, we need more systems like that

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:40 PM

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keen swan also, the honor crystal idea will require people to be sacrificing characters to...

Yup

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:41 PM

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just we gotta readd yaga so it feels more fluid than suiciding

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also seppuku has very specific connotations, like it was self-punishment basically, so we cant call anything that ever 😭

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its not a japanese blanket term for suicide/sacrifice, but a lot of people think it is 😹

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:43 PM

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Yea that’s the issue I was thinkin about

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I read more into it

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 3:43 PM

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yaga made sense i think because it was just like you were sacrificing yourself to the gods which was cool

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plus all the spirit npcs are super cool looking and i want more of them

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:45 PM

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But I mean it sounds perfect right, to die with “honour”

sudden merlin Dec 30, 2023, 3:45 PM

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I don't really like personal islands/homes in mmos. I don't know why the idea of adding seppuku is brought up so often aside from the fact that this game is not really japan themed, seppuku is a ritualistic suicide and honestly adding it into the game feels rather weird. I mean it doesn't feel really justified by the theme, like you could just spend your honor on permanent upgrades after dying normally or something just like in most roguelikes, having to go through the whole dungeon just to carry out a ritualistic suicide at the end feels weird especially considering the purpose of seppuku. If it has to be seppuku I guess it would make the most sense if dying normally didn't give you honor at all but then the honor system would need to be at least rebalanced.

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weird to send it now

tranquil minnow Dec 30, 2023, 3:46 PM

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😂

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Well maybe the lore is that we are ronin who have failed our master by not keeping them alive with the invasion of these monsters. The act of seppuku would allow us to die in the hands of ourselves instead of the enemy from shame of failing our masters? Idk it does sound quite brutal but just an idea

rough oxide Dec 30, 2023, 6:39 PM

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tranquil minnow But I mean it sounds perfect right, to die with “honour”

pretty relatable

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the only way ive gotten honor so far is by suiciding my characters once they have enough

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dying in combat means losing gear so that just sucks

keen kestrel Dec 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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I assume there will be a guild area similar to rotmg and whatnot. That can be customizable.
The crystals idea is ok, some sort of crystal sink for very minimal upgrades but still noticeable for grinders could be nice
Might want to call that ascension or something instead of that. But the idea is interesting. Going through a very difficult trial (alone) and being able to get a nice bonus at the end could be cool. But what I had in mind was something more akin of a one time per character bonus and a visual effect that shows that you completed the trial. ( The idea is that you'll have to gauge if you are strong enough stats-wise and skill-wise to complete it )
Extricly cosmetic, sure
Fishing could be nice. Source of specialized food, maybe a leaderboard for biggest fish caught.
There is the idea of being able to teleport to party members and more coachmen being added, not sure this is needed. If you want a companion, purely cosmetic pets sounds a bit more feasable

keen swan Dec 30, 2023, 10:50 PM

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id like crystal combining to just be a tenet of the system

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like you know, 2-5 crystals for a stat crystal of varying power and like 6+ you can get even stronger ones that unlock additional buffs

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ill just add it to my old crystal idea

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