Damage Challenge

[hard sleet]

I see

[vernal condor]

what steven? and iono is like brendan, who's like nc blue but worse, yada yada

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[true locust]

Iono never saw

[vernal condor]

yeah, it's a nc blue substitute
if you have nc blue you have no reason to use her

but it's not because nc blue is strictly better that iono is bad

[true locust]

Other then nc blue is chase

Iono is not even close

[hard sleet]

Oh that’s absurd

[true locust]

You need para from b move wat is bad

Where par marley can para ?

[vernal condor]

she can't

[true locust]

Or give zone terrain rebuff?

[vernal condor]

she has special circle

and she has a lot of gauge so she can enable twave spam or smth like that

[true locust]

Or raise all sts off ally apply super up next?

[vernal condor]

she applies SEUN to the team

[true locust]

She is not meta lol

For team is bad

[vernal condor]

bro have you checked her kit 😭

no it's not?

[true locust]

Good is only for 1

[scenic grotto]

So SEUN and Gauge
But she can’t para and I don’t think you can move spam with her, meaning you would have to pair her with a support with Para and move spam, like BP Barry or Colress

[true locust]

For all its take time alot

She is not meta

[vernal condor]

it's the same time??

[true locust]

Not even close

No

Same time

Like lillie

Or h jasmine

[vernal condor]

Lillie is slow because the b move is slow

[true locust]

This will be slow too

Meta need apply status or spam easy rebuff terrain wtz

[scenic grotto]

H Lillie is still useful even if you don’t use her B Move
Sing with Sprint/Support combo

[true locust]

Yes lillie is for sing spam and quic sync reduce

[scenic grotto]

Exactly

[vernal condor]

If the NC Bianca/Colress works as support + spammer, there's literally no reason for something like Pal Marley + Sinnoh spammer (so BP Barry ig but could be smth else) to not work

[true locust]

Just we can say marley and arc cynthia who will be spamer?

Since its only unit wat sure get some benefit from circle

[vernal condor]

you don't use cynthia with marley she has special circle not defensive

[scenic grotto]

Sure you can pair Pal Marley with BP Barry
With Barry being a self contained Para and move spammer unit

[true locust]

So special is only dahlia

Good 1 unit

Wow sure not limited use

[vernal condor]

and you can remove charging infliction

[vernal condor]

you don't HAVE to use a sinnoh pair like how Chase is used outside of Kanto

Except she actually has a support spammer of her region, being BP Barry, not like Chase

[scenic grotto]

Yes

[true locust]

Chase have para

She not

Its issue use marley

[vernal condor]

It doesnt matter is the thing im trying to explain to you

you don't care that marley doesnt have para, just spam with someone else than lillie

[true locust]

I just tell she is not meta

[fallen trail]

shes an option

can put her with bp barry maybe

old school spam

[vernal condor]

except you can remove the infliction because she has so much gauge

[fallen trail]

good point

[dire spade]

A nice rank so far

[true locust]

Marley cant raise team special attack or crit.

[civic island]

pErika tech+strike with no soften up

And no aoe debuffs, rip

[scenic grotto]

DC Shauna with no AoE debuff on her Fake Tears is also a little rough ^^;

[fluid anvil]

modern dps dont even need that

Marley works with BP Barry or with Oleana I guess

or with SSG Gio (without Charging Infliction)

[vernal condor]

that's what im saying 😭

[fluid anvil]

she also has this:
Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by 3 the first time it applies Sinnoh Circle (Special) to the allied field of play each battle.

and Sprint + Support ofc

and evasion (self only)

yeah, she is ok

[vernal condor]

and seun for the team

and a sync multiplier for the team

[fluid anvil]

and Sinnoh circle

oh even better:
Sinnoh C (Spec): Team S-Moves ↑ 2
Powers up the sync moves of all allied sync pairs when Sinnoh Circle (Special) applies to the allied field of play.

like Chase + NC blue, but without para

[vernal condor]

but barry has the para so it's fine

really, she's insane

[fluid anvil]

who else can spam without para and is useful?

Marley + BP barry will already make her circle be x1,3

both Sinnoh

[vernal condor]

oleana as you said

ss ingo

[fluid anvil]

oh yeah Ingo

[vernal condor]

aaron also gives a good circle

but of course you have the 5 defend order that suck, still a good option for super sparring

[fluid anvil]

SS Ingo + Marley should have no gauge issue and insane sync -cd

if she was physical she would actually be nuts for Arc Cynthia lol

alas

she is especially good for 3v1 I guess. Since both her -2 spdef and Barrys para are ST

[vernal condor]

yeah

[fluid anvil]

also this, a very small bonus
Seed Flare: Discombobulate 9

[vernal condor]

I don't think you can afford it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215828903138955374/1334658864498343946/image.png?ex=679d556e&is=679c03ee&hm=0cdb12af415771582afaa312607ae3efbeebf55f87b2ff19e6b2022fedf1cdfb&

[scenic grotto]

Good thing grid expansion is a thing

[fluid anvil]

at 4/5 you can

I dont think you need the 1 team SMUN tile, its minor and not everyone can make use of it

the SMUN on sync will also cost an animation

[upper radish]

even if she were to become meta I couldn't bring myself to pull for that creature

[upbeat bluff]

Okay, with this and LySSander, do I have any good options for current weak damage challenge?

[plush palm]

no idea what ss lysandre investment level is

ex ss misty aint the worst option

nessa aint terrible either w/ sc steven support

[upbeat bluff]

3/5

And no SC Steven.

Because this game's limited system is terrible and I will never stop saying that until they fix it.

LySSander also has EXR, if that helps.

[plush palm]

that probably matters a lot

could give him a shot unless you wanna ex ss misty and try tunning him w/ chase

[upbeat bluff]

I've got plenty of Champion Spirits, at laest.

Like... way more than I can feasibly use, due not having nearly enough 5* tickets.

[plush palm]

honestly id just try ss lys / chase / spammer

[upbeat bluff]

I do have him at 3/5, at least.

...Will we EVER get them to be smart and make more pairs unlimited?

I'm guessing I'd want to put burn on the target?

[icy pendant]

That fundamentally is not how this game works, don’t fault the developers for making their system clear and sticking by it

[icy pendant]

Why would you forgo a 90% sync damage increase?

[upbeat bluff]

I don't care if you disagree, I still think it's dumb. You aren't changing my mind on this by saying 'well, at least they're sticking to their guns on this decision you think is stupid'.

[icy pendant]

My goal isn’t to change your mind though, it’s their decision on how they want to manage their product and it’s our responsibility as consumers to find our enjoyment in it

[upbeat bluff]

And I don't find enjoyment in this aspect of things. Is my opinion automatically to be discarded as a result?

I think it's dumb and, from a profit side of things, not optimal.

[icy pendant]

Then just don’t do things you don’t enjoy? I fail to see how this is a problem

[upbeat bluff]

I enjoy the rest of the game, I just find this aspect of things incredibly stupid and frustrating.

Especially when they keep incentivizing you to keep getting multiple pairs and move levels but don't bother increasing the supply of ways to GET them to keep up with demand.

[icy pendant]

Sounds like more of an expectation management problem then - it’s essentially permanent content that you need to set expectations for yourself based on your resources, not someone else’s. If you think that in a gacha game you’re always going to be competitive with the most premium accounts, then you just don’t understand what a gacha game is

[upbeat bluff]

I've played multiple Gacha games and they don't have such a prohibitive limited system. Closest I can point out is something like War of the Visions, and that's STILL more justifiable since, aside from seasonal pairs and pure collab pairs, the only limited pairs tend to be either 'collabs' with previous FF games (which is annoying but understandable and most units in WOTV AREN'T units from other FF games) or the Warriors of the Crystals-related units (which is more annoying (as there's some strong units in there) but you at least don't need MULTIPLE COPIES OF THEM and can get their full strength eventually by getting the first 'copy').

It doesn't help that new game modes make older units suddenly VERY useful and now suddenly that one support unit that didn't really seem worth spending on is now a godsend and screw you if you never have a chance to get it because of this system.

I think this is a stupid, prohibitive limited system and it should be loosened up in some regards, you think it's fine, can we get back to the original topic of this thread?

[covert geyser]

khe

[upbeat bluff]

Well, best I could get, unless I'm missing somwthing.

[icy pendant]

Melony is too slow for that team?

[upbeat bluff]

Melony, in my experience, doesn't realy offer much over other spammers and creates move gauge issues.

I've run out of move gauge with her more than once.

[icy pendant]

Melony is a significantly faster Colress, and if you need gauge back Chase is right there

[upbeat bluff]

...How?

I don't see it.

[icy pendant]

Chase TM gives MGA, which you can time optimally

[upbeat bluff]

I mean 'how is Melony faster than Colress'.

[icy pendant]

Colress has Infliction Freebie which slows down his spam

[upbeat bluff]

And Melony eats move gauge, which ALSO slows down her spam.

[icy pendant]

optimal sing spam is 15-20 seconds per sync depending on enemy gauge, Colress is 25 optimistically

You can always 150 Melony for the higher speed stat, and throw on some speed skill gear for her

[upbeat bluff]

So roll for more random gear.

[icy pendant]

Melony gauge, especially next to Chase, isn’t always terrible

[upbeat bluff]

The issue remains the damage output.

[icy pendant]

Well I can’t diagnose the damage issue without seeing what you’re running on Lysandre, right now all I can see is the team so I’m trying to raise your ceiling there

[upbeat bluff]

I really wasn't getting much out of LySSander. Is the damage output for EXR units just weird?

[icy pendant]

well you burned, you got Lysandre to +6, I assume your gears boost his spatk, so it’s just a matter of not necessarily going for +6 evasion from Chase to squeeze out more syncs, 204k tells me you maybe got 2 syncs out with him

[upbeat bluff]

I was using circle for damage boost.

[icy pendant]

pre-3/5 Chase?

[upbeat bluff]

3/5.

[icy pendant]

3/5 can get by with only one circle

[upbeat bluff]

Had to use another towards the end since it was running out, used it right before LySSander's first sync move.

[icy pendant]

stack it toward the end of the fight and take your first syncs outside of circle to maximize the damage multiplier without having the long circle set animation twice

[cloud timber]

ss lysandre doesn't reach 1m without 5/5 or chase/dahlia

and if you have dahlia you should use her

as dd

[icy pendant]

well at least Chase is there, but also SS Misty might just have better results even without EX?

[upbeat bluff]

don't have Dahlia.

[cloud timber]

yeah that's not expected

[icy pendant]

I imagine SS Misty/Chase/Elio would work significantly better than a Lysandre setup, Elio there to sustain gauge for Sync Power Flux. Only needs to reset for the 25% double evasion boost on Misty turn 1

[brazen escarp]

Eh

[vagrant ivy]

poison triple and I still have no EX poison striker

time to koga again

[brazen escarp]

Forgot gears earlier

[lethal siren]

Cheap poison triple again
Those 2 gauge move spam

I have 3/5 geeta tho

[royal jolt]

Geeta Gaming

[lusty galleon]

poison aoe huh

[royal jolt]

Yup
Far from my favorite type. But, at least it's an easy 2M I think

[lusty galleon]

can be "easier" now I believe

[royal jolt]

Why's that?

[lusty galleon]

the Lillie factor to some degree

SEUN can help to push to 1M, now how well can it help for higher

[hard sleet]

Can lillie be ran even if your team doesn't have another status

[lusty galleon]

guess with attack spam

meaning, Aaron/Gio(?) like

[cloud timber]

geeta is not an easy 2m unless you have oleana or something

1.6m was my peak with nc blue/melony and that was difficult

[royal jolt]

Yeah, it's because of that. I've got her

Guess I overestimated her, though!

[cloud timber]

yeah it's not great at all on her own

could be possible to fit in another sync with less tm use and lillie sprint ex

idk if that's enough for 2m still

[royal jolt]

We're about to find out :)

[cloud timber]

yea

[hard sleet]

Ye

[cloud timber]

lillie can definitely solo spam esp in fairy

but outside of that it's not actually conclusive whether she ends up better than bp barry

like i'd think bp barry is better

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, H. Lillie for better spam or DC Blue for Befuddle 2 to use Roxie's B Move less?

[cloud timber]

i had way more success with chase/dc blue on my nc red attempts than chase/h lillie

depends on the level of rng you're willing to grind or manage to get though

once i got a good score with dc blue it felt untouchable with lillie

[viscid lion]

What's my best dps for dark 3v1? (I also have 3/5 exr NC serena)

[cloud timber]

don't know about befuddle's effectiveness, whether you should settle for quick -5 or a slow -6

when you have a spdef drop mult

[cloud timber]

between masked royal and marnie but i couldn't tell you for sure which, i've used neither in dc

[long silo]

They mentioned NC Serena, so her no contest

[viscid lion]

do i even need to worry about quick attack or just ignore it

don't have any other pairs that lower dark rebuff

[cloud timber]

usually people use 1 but sometimes 2

depends more on if you need +6 speed for gauge rather than anything else i think

so one b move/one rebuff is ideal otherwise

from what i hear/see anyway

[crude sandal]

Ok, how do you actually set up Roxie's innate?

Actually, when do you use Chase's TMs?

[vagrant ivy]

is pMarley what gardenia needs to finally hit 1m in triple grass

[cloud timber]

could she enable bp barry spam without charging infliction...

she has more speed than nc bianca but bp barry has less than colress

bp barry has catalyst

well someone needs to try it but it won't be me

[olive wraith]

about next DC,fly 3 have -80% damage sync move

[craggy pond]

man biancas stage is annoying with the heat wave

who am i going to get more out of 5/5 akari or 2/5 sscyrus or someone f2p even

i do have Lodge Lear

[warped gulch]

I remember he almost hit 1m but that with H Lillie and Red

[craggy pond]

i was thinking lear + nc Rosa + (?) for psychic, ss lear + arc Steven + anni lillie steel, and then i dunno. Lodge Lear. triple Lear funny

i also have 2/5 ssingo if he's useful anywhere

[viscid lion]

whats the best f2p poison pair for dc? been getting unlucky with the roxie summons

[craggy pond]

i thought i could cook with akari but i didn't realise it was a 3v1 stage

[warped gulch]

Plumeria, she only hit 600k with f2p team but can 1M with premium pair

[cloud timber]

2m is possible but certainly not easy

[viscid lion]

alr ty

[sacred badger]

Who synced o.o?

[grand oracle]

The Roxie or the klara for DC

[cloud timber]

i mean who else, nothing out of the ordinary

nc blue > h lillie > few geeta syncs

4 geeta syncs

i used one tm before her first sync, if i knew the run would be exactly that many syncs i'd use it before her last sync and not worry about mpr

but it needs 2 para procs to get there

one poison on right

[royal jolt]

Cool!

[lusty galleon]

[grand oracle]

?
Theyre both at 1/5 tho :[

[cloud timber]

not going to get very far but at least ss roxie has some form of aoe damage

[royal jolt]

Assuming EXd, would Plumeria not be the best bet here?

Actually, maybe not?
That poison tick is painful

But, maybe if you just go for her Inertia nuke, you could do something?

[cloud timber]

because she's not ex'd

if you could afford to ex her she can go a long way but it'd only be for this mode mainly

rather save the powerups for one of limited units

[sacred badger]

are any of them poisoned or wut? 😮

[grand oracle]

Yeahhh pretty lacking rn unfortunately 😓

[lusty galleon]

good thing with Geeta is that her multiplier for poison is just 3

[grand oracle]

Ty tho guys

[lusty galleon]

but you still need to poison so...

might as well use it lol

[cloud timber]

right side poisoned

[upper frost]

is it faster to sing spam with ss roxie/colress/elio or dps?

[sacred badger]

hum. maybe next time. managed to hit 1m with redlax 1R, geeta 3R, and Colress to 1mil.

not one target was poisoned lol.

[cloud timber]

yeah that's holding yourself back a lot

you want to be able to use her b move

you'll get use out of virulent toxin/toxic power too

but not enough to want triple poison

which i did try

[crude sandal]

How actually?

[royal jolt]

Triple poison is hard to manage without Oleana

[cloud timber]

yeah oleana's speed debuffs would matter a ton there

[sacred badger]

Just haymaker + seun lol 1m

[cloud timber]

yeah you can do way better if you want

just bc you're at 1m doesn't mean the tickets stop being useful

[crude sandal]

When do you use Chase's TMs?

[cloud timber]

immediately unless you're trying to manage gauge for 2 bar spam

in which case you might need to conserve mga

[restive galleon]

Is colress Emma gauge support a good team for this DC?

[cloud timber]

only gauge support that makes sense with colress is bianca

[restive galleon]

I do not have nc bianca

[cloud timber]

probably looking to use redlax then if you're sticking to colress

[restive galleon]

Aight

[vagrant ivy]

parley seems to be kinda tailor made for BP Barry but idk if just circle mg +2 is enough for 2 bar spam

guess we’ll have to see

[crude sandal]

It's actually pretty disgusting how Bede has X Speed All with 2 gauge moves on all of them

I only managed 3 syncs with Roxie with Chase and DC Blue

[quaint timber]

for those curious

[scenic grotto]

I was getting frustrated with not being able to fit in the last sync
Turns out I just needed was to not apply SEUN to Oleana’s first sync

[warped gulch]

How about gears? If just stats then it is same as Oleana+Chase 👀

Which is really good when Oleana gains Poison Rebuff

[quaint timber]

yeah just stats for the most part

have like one sync mult lol

[quaint timber]

with the enemies poisoned or you para'd with chase first?

[warped gulch]

I para all

[quaint timber]

ig technically oleana can also be with marley lol it's just that enemies will be poisoned

[warped gulch]

Yeah

Poison suck

Even if she debuff all speed

[quaint timber]

i mean i guess klara has virulent toxin pls but like i don't think it's worth it lol

[warped gulch]

Enemy in this stage is quite fast because 3 2 bar move, and 2 of them is Dazzling Gleam which watse too much time

[scenic grotto]

Cutting it close I see
Anyone who gets SS Giovanni has 24 hours to invest and then use him in Ground 3v3

[royal jolt]

I wish I had Klara 3/5. She's got her EXR and stuff

[quaint timber]

yes this stage is obnoxious

and the two that aren't dg can debuff

all that's missing is heat wave

[scenic grotto]

I’m happy to have gotten 1m

[royal jolt]

I think I'm taking my 2.3M and sitting down for this one. I got lucky enough as it were

Bede missed Play Rough twice

And zone managed to cover every single sync, despite using it at 1:44:98

[cloud timber]

realized marley could be important for ss cyrus so i pulled

went to pity, got one copy at 10th multi so 2/5 now

[vagrant ivy]

if last sync crit this would be 740k

[vagrant ivy]

rip

better put her to dark single now before it goes away in 2 resets

[cloud timber]

second copy woulda been real nice

[vagrant ivy]

36600 for a 2/5 pal Marley isn’t what I can afford to get sadly

but good for you

[cloud timber]

63k gems which is a lot lower than i'm used to but eh

[vernal condor]

36k right not 63

[cloud timber]

63k left, was at 100k

[vernal condor]

ah ok

[vast glade]

Maybe should try Oleanna as a spammer next?

[cloud timber]

oleana always compresses spam + rebuff so i'd never not use her for poison if i had her

for poison

[teal haven]

With para proc luck it's probably possible to get ~2.7m-ish but I don't care that much to try for it

This is with one sludge wave before the first damage sync

With standard luck you can't fit a full -6 spdef and a 3rd crit

[vagrant ivy]

has anyone tried base Roxie

[teal haven]

Yes

[vagrant ivy]

(heavily invested ofc)

[teal haven]

She gets like 400k

She doesn't have many sync buffs, it's mostly attack/stat boosting on her grid

[vagrant ivy]

[teal haven]

Then again that was last cycle...

Lemme see

[vagrant ivy]

ok so worse than koga

[teal haven]

Okay yeah her crit rate sucks

[restive galleon]

Low...

Only 3 sync

Even at -6 screech takes a long ass time

And bede doesn't stop attacking ever

[teal haven]

Yeah the fairy type enemies always suck cause they can spam dazzling gleam forever

I think I got a total of like 6 or 7 uninterrupted status spams in tops

[restive galleon]

Is steven or Olympia better against single psychic?

[plush palm]

first attempt

only got 1 tm mpr

[restive galleon]

Help

[cloud timber]

olympia

[cloud timber]

wait why though

whole point of colress is to spam twave

this rotation is probably the worst in terms of enemy attack frequency/duration

but needing to poison can also make it look worse

[alpine pumice]

Mmmmm, changing around a DC team for Bede and discovered I had MF Serena using a Dark grid last challenge
Forgot to change it after a battle rally, feelsblind

[restive galleon]

Could I improve this?

[dense gate]

I’m taking the L for this one. I don’t have any skill gears for Koga or any resources to power him up. And of course he refuses to crit his syncs

[plush palm]

people are hitting 4m+ on that shauna comp

[unborn otter]

I like pmarley in the story and she is good in dc but my gem count is low.

[plush palm]

save

[unborn otter]

Did two tiers

[plush palm]

ok if its paid that different

[unborn otter]

I felt lucky

[brazen escarp]

Man I have nothing for this DC

[restive galleon]

How?

I'm spamming Lillie steven and Lear bmove only

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X05aCejWIS4

from the sheet

[restive galleon]

Does steven need more than 1/5?

Cuz I'm seeing tm mpr there

[cloud timber]

no idea how important it is, i imagine most of it is just buffing his own output which is 79k

[warped gulch]

Even that you should hit at least 3m

1.7m is really low for that comp

[vernal condor]

try this https://youtu.be/MupM5n-VNjw

[warped gulch]

Unless your Lillie isn’t caked

[vernal condor]

it should definitely give you more

[vernal condor]

if he isnt 3/5 you need to use head start ls on lear, and replace the 2nd and following TM uses by iron head

i got 3.9m that way

[vapid kernel]

Whts good about pmarley in dc

[dense gate]

Might actually be a good time to 3/5 DC Blue

[restive galleon]

Wait koga can get 1 mil?

Zamn

If I can get 5 mil surely that would be top 1000 right?

[cloud timber]

circle, speed, eva, seun, 20% buff to syncs under circle at 3/5

better chase but without the para

but she can enable bp barry (no charging infliction) or ss cyrus or dahlia spam out of the sinnoh options and a bunch of others outside of it

[vernal condor]

in 1v3, in 3v3 probably not

ss cyrus still needs someone else to para, but it still gives you many options

[cloud timber]

yeah

[vernal condor]

main candidate rn for that is bp barry but maybe later we'll get smth else

[vernal condor]

like someone with dark rebuff and para idk

actually, larry?

[cloud timber]

oh yeah larry is good

[vernal condor]

could you try marley larry cyrus

if you have 2/5 larry

[cloud timber]

he's 4/5 but probably worse than just using chase

[brazen escarp]

What will be the best f2p units to bring with koga

[cloud timber]

tends to be outclassed as long as kanto circle actually applies

but i can check anyway

[brazen escarp]

I forgot about the sheet ;-;

[cloud timber]

no second support ex also hurts to stall for debuffs for power play but enfeeble helps a little

[brazen escarp]

Both rely on 3/5 plumeria or looker ;-;

[vernal condor]

the main gain is that you don't have to set the circle twice and the multiplier is actually higher
the main loss is that you lose a supp sync and have to crit one more sync instead

but since you can skip 2 circles maybe you can get 1 more sync? idk, probably not lol

[restive galleon]

Wait why is steven running hs1 here?

[cloud timber]

well i have access to soften up luckily but the other issue is ss cyrus needing to set himself up which doesn't come with extra evasion

hs1 is good

[restive galleon]

Shouldn't steven run adr1

[cloud timber]

that only matters outside dc when you need to reach the next sync in 3 triple queues

hs1 is optimal in dc

[restive galleon]

Hmm

[cloud timber]

if the other two have any entry passives to simultaneously proc

[restive galleon]

I only got hs1 on Lillie...

[cloud timber]

they're generally not very important but on that team with no spammer it can be

hs1/adr1

but even you miss out on a sync you could still get up to 2.7m

[cloud timber]

also team grand entry/sharp entry are important

[restive galleon]

Ok following the guide doesn't seem to work since because of HS1 they get to one shot cycle to their second sync

So I guess i need to make my own?

[cloud timber]

yeah pretty commonly you won't be able to follow videos exactly

you'll have to do something that makes sense for what you have

[restive galleon]

What about using steven's bmove

The defense drops seem good

But the vid makes him use potion

[cloud timber]

b moves in general are pretty slow and steven's debuffs don't make up for it too much in general

max health potion burns sync cd very fast, like sing spam

[brazen escarp]

which chapter do i get koga in

[vagrant ivy]

bro hasn’t even fully played through the pml arc

[vernal condor]

💀

[restive galleon]

Hmm,same score

I was using potion mostly and occasional iron head on steven

[copper otter]

So... i tried atticus

[restive galleon]

Is this the max i can get with only one hs1?

[cloud timber]

even if the video failed to reach the last sync they still reached 2.7m before it

dunno what gear they used though

[vapid kernel]

Poison DF so good right

[acoustic chasm]

[brazen escarp]

too lazy

[vagrant ivy]

but it’s free gems

[brazen escarp]

30 chapters is 20 too many for me

[vagrant ivy]

[brazen escarp]

its mmy gem bank

[vagrant ivy]

how many gems u got rn lol

[brazen escarp]

15k

ish

[vagrant ivy]

yeah those half anni arc suits are gonna drain you hard

and the bikes

I’d get the gems for good measure

[brazen escarp]

who said i go for arc suits

(probably gonna go for bikes)

nc red took me to pity

it was ouch

[vagrant ivy]

eh you probs won’t need the pml arc gems if you get lucky so

anyways if you don’t have koga I’d honestly recommend gladion

[brazen escarp]

i can probably get enough for pity by the time florian comes

[vagrant ivy]

Lucy has an abhorrent attack stat

[brazen escarp]

my first ever dc was done with gladion

(he did 30k)

[vagrant ivy]

looker and plumeria are bad enough uninvested

or just poison stall

[vagrant ivy]

EX your gladion smh he’s gonna go a long way if you don’t plan on investing into techs or strikes for 17 different types

[brazen escarp]

i have a total of 2 exes rn

(rosa and nc blue)

i do have 120 pu but i dont know who to ex

[vagrant ivy]

[vagrant ivy]

send your roster over in poma questions perchance and we can help you decide

[brazen escarp]

alright, later im busy rn

(although i keep checking discord, which makes my task take infinitely longer)

[restive galleon]

Where am I going wrong in my Shauna run?
Have hs 1 on Lillie only
First cycle is potions, steven tms and Lear tms
Steven sync,Lillie tm,MIR
Lillie bmove,Lear bmove,potion
MIR
Lillie sync,MIR,iron head
Lear bmove,double iron head, solidarity
Lear sync

[warped gulch]

Hmm, only 1 Lear Sync ?

[restive galleon]

Yeah

I had 3 moves queued just as timer ended

So 3 moves away from second sync

[warped gulch]

That team can reach total 4 Syncs

I might try 1/5 Steven grid

Does you Steven has Adr1 ?

Also Lillie has it also help a lot

[vagrant ivy]

1/5 Steven grid is literally nothing

I just run cs2

[brazen escarp]

what can i do to improve these runs?

[warped gulch]

I’ll run Adr1 so i dont need fk PlayRough miss

[vagrant ivy]

the good thing about non 10/5 poppy is that you can fish for play rough miss

[warped gulch]

Ok 1/5 Steven need at least 1 PlayRough miss to reach Lear’s 2nd Sync

[restive galleon]

Steven has adr1

Lillie has hs1

Lear has cs2

[cloud timber]

you already got my input

[cunning rock]

What do you mean? For her accuracy debuffs and circle?

[cloud timber]

circle, speed, eva, mga, extra circle to syncs at 3/5

chase stuff but without the para

[cunning rock]

Does SS Cyrus also need MGA to be a spammer?

[cloud timber]

yes

also she gets seun on her tm

so it drastically cuts on the rng needed to get seuns

bc ss cyrus needs 20% rolls and has to burn a tm or dark wish

[cunning rock]

Oh dang, then yeah, I can see why you went for her. Thanks.

[cloud timber]

definitely felt like i was getting baited as i was pulling for her but it does seem to work out well

[vernal condor]

She should work well for future stages too

[cloud timber]

yeah there's a lot of potential spots

and looks good for all the other modes too (dunno her ub use)

[vernal condor]

UB wise not really sadly, not enough utility

She's good on Wally I guess lol, since you want constant SpD drops

[cloud timber]

any self-sufficient special attacker could potentially work with p marley/bp barry

[vernal condor]

Barry can complete the buffs if needed

[restive galleon]

Should I reattempt 3 mil steel team the next time it's on special DC once I get hs1 on every unit?

[cloud timber]

ofc

but you'd only want hs1 on arc steven there i'd think

adr1 might be equally good

[cunning rock]

Man, I thought Event Clavell would make it to the Grass ST DC. And then I saw that he doesn't even have sync multipliers in his grid.

[vapid kernel]

Ye cope

[cloud timber]

ig he can be an lg unit with restoring strike and evasive strike

no good for dc for sure

could technically get some use if you need defense debuffs bc he also comes with evasion but eh

could be using k grimsley lol

[vast glade]

Dang, only got like 1,6 million with this team. What strat did you use?

[icy pendant]

oh poison triple, do I just pull the trigger and 3/5 Roxtricity now or is Geeta still acceptable?

[cloud timber]

question is whether you think you have a better use for those candies

[stoic crest]

Can I have help with the ranked event? I'm stuck building teams

These are the pairs I have for the types. I have many good supports like chase and champion blue. Please ping me

I was thinking about using Lusamine for psychic. But I don't know what to do

Any help is appreciated

[cloud timber]

got nc serena?

[stoic crest]

Yes I do

1/5

But I can candy if needed

I mainly want rewards but anything higher is a great bonus

[cloud timber]

getting to 1m in ranked shouldn't be super difficult when it's across 3 stages

serena is generally a good candy investment and is good for both water and dark, can work in multi too

[stoic crest]

Yeah I use her a lot honestly

[cloud timber]

lucian for psychic

[stoic crest]

Oh the growl mechanics?

[cloud timber]

just use it 6 times to max debuff spa and spdef

and that sets his multipliers

ss lear is optimal for steel but at 3/5, with arc steven and a2 lillie you already have the best team

[stoic crest]

So candy lear as well?

What should I pair with Lucian and Serena?

I was thinking chase and Melony for Lucian?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[icy pendant]

well the single candy will be spent if I don’t daily a Roxie, but candying would be forfeiting the next week of dailies

[cloud timber]

maybe red and h lillie for serena

forgot if you have h lillie or not

[stoic crest]

I don't think so

[cloud timber]

ah

[stoic crest]

That's the new primarina?

[cloud timber]

shiny one yes

elio will be a safe bet there then

[stoic crest]

Yeah not yet, I'm going to get her in a select when it comes

[cloud timber]

i wouldn't rush it in any case

[stoic crest]

I'm going to assume red will paralysis using body slam?

[cloud timber]

yep

[vernal condor]

maybe one day people will stop doing whatever they're doing that removes the color

[royal jolt]

Thought it'd be funny
And it was

[sacred badger]

This should... do it... >_>

[royal jolt]

I wish I had Oleana and Emma's EXRs :(

[royal jolt]

Does Kanto Circle also include Chase and result in a 20% buff when he's the only Kanto unit?

[fallen trail]

yes

all circles include the unit using it

[royal jolt]

Noted. Thanks!

[fluid anvil]

got myself a 3/5 Marley - here's a very scuffed DC test with BP barry on the Poison stage
https://streamable.com/nnebf6
(I forgot that her TM gives team SEUN, should have used it before last sync lol)

[royal jolt]

Ohh, she's Sprint/Support
Now I see why people are talking about her

I was always paying more attention to Erika

[fluid anvil]

Barry also has Catalyst (MGA on sync)
so gauge shouldnt be a problem, especially with one Marley TM MPR

[royal jolt]

That SEUN on TM looks mighty fine

[fallen trail]

not bad not bad

[true locust]

Sure meta unit alow do 2 sync:) where nc blue melony is way better score

Not mention h lillie

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8Ho4-Y1P8 definitely holds up here

2/5, 3/5 is much better

but i think even at 2/5 it's better than nc blue + chase

[vernal condor]

could you submit it for the sheet please

or just send grids here that works too

oh you sent them on the other serv nvm

[vagrant ivy]

other server…?

[vernal condor]

a private server

[warped gulch]

[copper otter]

I'm thinking rn, pal Marley could potentially either replace adaman or be used alongside him. Although sinnoh circle won't help adaman, the less amount of field effects would help out on time i think..... maybe

[vapid kernel]

Thanks Roxie i DO feel great now

[dry whale]

Turns out all I had to do was not go the poison multiplier route. If only I had a para and one more mp refresh or two paras to use the b move. No way I'm going back to attempt that.

https://youtu.be/3UtJjq49rO4?si=vrujyhQqfQSs-HoL

[vapid kernel]

That seems underwhelming to me

[fluid anvil]

its just to show that you can spam 2 bar with Marley
my score using Oleana and Lillie was the same ~2M (but they are both unoptimized)
this stage is terrible since they attack so much + Roxie setup takes long

[copper otter]

You can swap out bp barry for holilillie instead of using stun spore. You have ET.

But that's just initial thought on improving that concept

Although barry helps with circle.... hmm

[fluid anvil]

I only use E.T. right before sync, but yeah
I just wanted to try out Marley + 2-bar spam

That SS Cyrus + Marley + Chase is probably a better idea tbh

[copper otter]

Ooooh

[fallen trail]

well… got 3/3 super toxic procs for emma’s poison fangs. oleana is exr but emma is not

dont have geeta ss roxie or klara, this is probably the best i can do

not even top 1000 though 💀

[vapid kernel]

!

[fallen trail]

bp barry buffs sinnoh circle tho

lillie has the sprint ex better gauge and (if there’s time) seun though

idk which would be better

[copper otter]

I feel like the sprint would help a lot better unless you want to waste a sync for marley

[civic island]

Pmarley n Chase sounds fun for single grass
But ig adaman is just too strong

[copper otter]

I csn see Pmarley/Adaman together. Idk what the third member would be tho

[plush palm]

no tm mpr

poison one side for the last minute b move

[feral hamlet]

How to get more points with this team?

[plush palm]

only poison 1 side

or exr

[feral hamlet]

I have Geeta EXR

How would I poison only 1? A different team altogether?

[icy pendant]

Rosa Sing with Go Viral and Mortal Spin after exactly one target has recovered from sleep

[plush palm]

different team yeah

[feral hamlet]

When does this happen? I've been watching for it to happen but it's very unreliable

Wait, I don't have her EXR. I may just settle for this then

[plush palm]

you might get some use put of a bianca comp or smth

[feral hamlet]

No Bianca

[vast glade]

Changed move order a bit and outcome is a lot better

Maybe some para and eva hax would allow use of Lillie's B-move for a better score

[acoustic chasm]

Roxie runs

1M is possible but REALLY hard with Jasmine

[plush palm]

scollipede really holding her back huh

[acoustic chasm]

She's trying her best

[plush palm]

1 tm mpr

[fluid anvil]

the top 1 score is 10/5 SS Roxie, right?
or is it 10/5 Klara?

[safe prawn]

That’s a great question bc both have zone on SA

[civic island]

Probably Klara
Iirc last time we had poison she was doing quite good (maxed)
And SA just dropped a 50% extra dmg with poison zone

[cloud timber]

p marley needs a spammer to go with and the primary options would be bp barry, dahlia, or ss cyrus

but any non-sing status can work

very dependent on mprs for gauge but you get seun simultaneously if you don't need to burn a second one super early which you might

if your dd is a spammer it's easy to fit in chase

and gauge is safe that way

[teal haven]

I got 1.2m with a 4/5 olympia, so yes

[cloud timber]

wait how would anyone end up on irida there

[teal haven]

how?! were you able to get a 4th sync in with roxie or something?

[teal haven]

the human mind is a beautiful thing

[slate kelp]

@wooden oak Spamming sing when the opponent already has a non-sleep condition*

[wooden oak]

Ok so have a non-sleep condition and spam sing? I thought sing + already asleep = failure?

And you want the failure condition

[slate kelp]

Yes but sleep cleanses itself

So you’re wasting time there

[wooden oak]

Should Arc Steven remain there, or replace him with Sophocles Togedemaru to get a paralysis?

[slate kelp]

Replace yes, Sophocles no

[wooden oak]

Or is the -2 Defenses every Bullet Punch and +6 Attack too valuable?

[slate kelp]

Not really that valuable

B moves have notoriously long animations

[wooden oak]

Any good FTP paralyzers that are better than Togedemaru?

[icy pendant]

Colress, BP Barry, BP Surge

[wooden oak]

Thanks. I'll get Surge and Barry

Colress I've never seemed to have gotten (alongside none of the Grimsley's and Silvally Gladion)

[dry whale]

Damage rolls were pretty good but I missed the final Crit. Roughly 200k left on the table. Just gonna leave it here. It's RNG hell

https://youtu.be/DJBLAG412ek?si=GgHgvyyFILaQNNP6

[icy pendant]

tacking paralysis onto a status move should be better than on an attack move, and the former two can also play as solo spammers at 3/5

[slate kelp]

Anything with infliction freebie is better than spamming sing with Melony, she doesn’t have it

[wooden oak]

You have a better FTP sleeper?

[icy pendant]

Melony sing spam can work but is a bit gauge demanding out of the rest of the team

if you want to sing then use Elio, he's a Colress 60% of the time and a Melony the other 40%

[wooden oak]

Oh the Primarina pair?

[icy pendant]

sing is on average 8-10 seconds faster per sync than Colress/Barry spam

[slate kelp]

It’s not “sing” that cuts down the time, it’s using any failed status move. You wouldn’t need sleep. The most recommended pairs are t wave spammers

Oh huh

I’m misinformed

[icy pendant]

you are very behind on the meta, this was like a month 1 discovery

[slate kelp]

Tbf I haven’t used this thread since the first week or two and I’ve been clearing decently off vids

[icy pendant]

sing spam optimally with perfect rng is a touch over 15 seconds for a sync if it's uninterrupted

[slate kelp]

I’m still clearing all DCs with 950k minimum (mostly), so at least my t-wave spam isn’t crippling me

[icy pendant]

you never have the expectation that twave spam is faster than 25 per sync

another important note: any status spammer absolutely cannot have troublemaker either from grid or from lucky skill, as the passive animation greatly slows down the spam

[wooden oak]

What's generally the damage bp pair to get (I already have Nemona Lycanroc)?

[still hearth]

Well all of them are pretty niche

[wooden oak]

Surge and Elio dont' have it

[icy pendant]

Whatever you need to fill your roster, all of the WTZ pairs are great

[icy pendant]

correct, but if you're used to sleep chaining from LG then you definitely have TM1 as a lucky skill slot on Melony and Elio and you need to unequip that here

[wooden oak]

I guess Gladion then. He explicitly helps NC Red.

[icy pendant]

I only specified from grid because of Holiday Lillie, who gets Sing: TM1 at 2/5

she is the optimal sing spammer since she has the best role combo and team-wide gauge help, but Melony was best-in-slot before her

[royal jolt]

You are nuts

Can you say an estimate for how long it took you?

[icy pendant]

wait my Rosa is unused in SS thanks for the reminder

[tribal flax]

when general pool get 2nd role, maybe would change?

melony got it 2nd role d?

[icy pendant]

Even if Melony gets sprint EXR, she has to contend with Lillie being 50% faster than her

[dry whale]

About 4 days on and off. So definitely a couple hours. Only 2 runs made it to completion. That's how bad that RNG is. In total I only ever completed the run 3 times counting the original run from a couple month ago.

It's why I did not go back to fix steel. I knew if I could not hit every crit then top 20 was not happening.

[royal jolt]

Mad respect
I think I spent the same time grinding triple fire for that one super sparring

Though, that one was to try and break a million point barrier

Never happened 😭

[lapis wigeon]

hey, so i asked this in general questions but it might be more specific to ask here: i have a 2/5 klara and a 2/5 ss roxxie, who would be better for the damage challenge? i have a tech candy ready to use, so i wanna know who would be a better investment (i plan to get them both to 3/5 eventually, but since i have the candy and the dc is poison, might as well use it on one of them)

[royal jolt]

24h
Go

[lethal siren]

They spam those 2 gauge moved
It's hard to spam

[upbeat bluff]

Um... are there supposed to be so few entries for dark and steel?

[frail owl]

because of the rules, for psychic they just got the clears from the normal DC

feel free to search for dark and steel clears from other tabs

[royal jolt]

Absolute
Fucking
Cinema

[slate magnet]

Lol nice

[royal jolt]

Ready for single fighting

[cunning rock]

It's gonna be weird that SS Ethan might actually be my MVP for Flying 3v3 Ranked DC this month

[vapid kernel]

Sylveon number 4

[warped gulch]

5 if we count egg

Poor Jolteon

[timid tree]

i want to get at least 6 mil before event ends. im aware i could improve on all of these.

anyway what I want to ask here.I have around 3/4 tech candies and had been considering candying base lear. how well could he do compared to olympia if i dont have nc rosa or chase? (i also have 3/5 nc blue and larry if that matters at all)

[cloud timber]

lear should be better by a fair bit, idk where olympia peaks but i got lear to 1.6m

without nc rosa or chase

yea redlax/h lillie

[vagrant ivy]

given that you have everyone on steel invested you can do more if ur willing to fish for more play rough misses

videos of that team hitting 5m exist

[timid tree]

thank you!!!!

[timid tree]

the try hard part of me that wants to retry the steel stage vs my sanity that at its limits.
i used all of steve’s b moves which the video i watched did not, so that might make a dif

[mild sigil]

Damn. Didn't think I would care about a 10 mil score until I realized how close I was

Psychic run can be improved but I don't think it can reach 2.26 mil to get me there, not without more candy investments.

[normal parcel]

For how DC works, the no status rule is much more brutal than DPS reduction

What's the best non Lear, non aWhaled team for steel?

[wooden oak]

Wait is Hop Pincurchin actually good in Damage Challenge?

Electric terrain, so he can make sleep auto-fail

Thunder wave, so he can paralyze

[vapid kernel]

Thats an extra 1M its not close at all

[vapid kernel]

Only useful in electric

And only good for f2p

[craggy pond]

hmmm for Super Sparring

5/5 Akari, 1/5 SS Cyrus or 5/5 Lodge Lear

(as the nuker)

problem with SSCyrus is no full SpAtk buffs...

guess i could use BP Barry + Melony but feels suboptimal

i do have NC Blue but used him up on Psychic (Lear + NC Rosa + NC Blue)

... ok out of left field idea

V. Rachel is a support sprint that can give +2 Spatk and also + Speed

... do i use up a sprint cake on this someone stop me if its a terrible idea XD

[vagrant ivy]

what why

no

just use 5/5 akari

i doubt 1/5 ss cyrus will do much

[craggy pond]

huh she got like 500k last i tried though i mightve messed up im rusty on DC

[vernal condor]

she might do more if you full dps

[craggy pond]

??? super sparring -80% move damage

[vagrant ivy]

ah yes full DPS in this super sparring dark 3v1

[vernal condor]

ah

trust

ig try lear but cyrus isnt doing shit at 1/5

[craggy pond]

lmao ok

thank you for stopping me

lodge lear is better than lodge cheren ig?

[vernal condor]

I think yes

[craggy pond]

ah yeah higher stats... both have innates (sprint has innate) but theres the stat diff

[vernal condor]

but with a big question mark lol

[craggy pond]

true sprint itself has merits also

oh hm and he raises evasion

wait d'oh thats DC cheren

not lodge

cheren when did you become a dark type trainer

lodge cheren lowers spdef...

[vagrant ivy]

DC cheren peaked at 870k for me this time using nc blue and melony

lodge cheren idk

[craggy pond]

well i might as well start with trying lodge cheren i already have him 5/5 EX hahaha

oh this buffing setup is not it though 💀 and i already used NC blue

is it worth destroying my nice psychic lear score...

oh wait red can at least raise crit thats... better

gosh darned burn

Lodge cheren is skull emoji i think

but akari can definitely do one more sync

if i improve this i can probably stay in top 1k (995 rn)

[icy pendant]

I feel like you have another million sitting there in the steel stage though

[craggy pond]

oh probably

i only ran it once

i don't have HS1 cookies though

i can definitely cook with less b move usage i think

since i only got three syncs on that run (Steven to Lillie to Lear)

[brazen escarp]

The fact that u need 5/5 oleana for spam is insane

[icy pendant]

not necessarily, below that you just need gauge support

5/5 just makes Oleana into a Colress

[brazen escarp]

I mean at that point, it's essentially the same as janine

[craggy pond]

yeah wasnt there a showcase of two bar spam (non mgr bp Barry) with pal Marley recently that was pretty cool

suppose it is though oleana gets there faster than Janine because of 2x drop

[icy pendant]

Oleana isn't actually debuffing anyone with Venom Drench ever

[craggy pond]

oh wait how does it work again

[icy pendant]

Venom Drench requires poisoned targets, if there are no poisoned targets then the move just fails

[craggy pond]

ohh right i see i thought it was debuff + fail

ok that makes sense

[brazen escarp]

It's 3x

[craggy pond]

revealing my severe lack of familiarity with oleana strats sorry guys

[brazen escarp]

Ain't gonna get more

Nice

Also pretty much all crits

So thats nice

Maybe if I can get one more mpr but I doubt it

[icy pendant]

Rosa is there for?

[brazen escarp]

Gauge

And support ex

[icy pendant]

mm that is fair

Hilbert's maybe better because speed buffs should overall be more useful but if he's not invested into probably not

[brazen escarp]

I tried with speed buffs I didn't get nearly as much

[long silo]

Can Steven/Lear/Lillie reach 4 sync w/o two HS1 LC?

[brazen escarp]

And that was using nc blue

[long silo]

I've only seen clears with that but using two LS

[plush palm]

450k is good enough i think

[brazen escarp]

Yea I'm happy with that

I'm trying to get higher scores on the other runs

130k more from Lucian

That was only 10k more than giovanni

I expected more but whatever

[warped gulch]

Need 2 PlayRough miss

Which i don’t even want to think about it lol

[plush palm]

what comp

[brazen escarp]

Nc blue elio and Lucian

1/5 all of them

I couldn't use melony cuz gauge for some reason

[plush palm]

oh yeah if its 1/5 then idk what to say

he kinda wants 3/5

no olympia?

[unborn otter]

Who would 1/5 exr pmarley be good with?

In general

[plush palm]

nc blue

melony

chase

[brazen escarp]

She is also 1/5

[plush palm]

same as ever i guess

she might be better anyways

bc evasion

[brazen escarp]

Hm alright

So I set her as tank!

?

[plush palm]

yes

she is also easier to set up

[brazen escarp]

Alright

Lemme try

For olympia which stats do i raise

[icy pendant]

I feel like you either live in the world where Olympia fully sets herself up or you run her next to NC Blue so that he fully maxes her Rising Tide innate

[plush palm]

i mean 4 turns to set up aint the worst

[brazen escarp]

So do I rely on luck for ancient power?

Cuz she is 1/5 so I don't have the tiles

[icy pendant]

it's 30% at base, so could be way worse

[brazen escarp]

How many ancient power raises do I reset for then?

[icy pendant]

you'll want +6 spatk which means 3 omniboosts

[brazen escarp]

Nc blue does that

Thi

Tho*

[icy pendant]

I think you max rising tide before that but then you're working off +4

if NC Blue, you never click ancient power

[brazen escarp]

What's rising tide?

[umbral sleet]

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_PSYCHIC:967452396374614086> <:GROUP_SYNC:967457975612637265> Starlight Path Psychic

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
The more the user's stats are raised, the greater the power of this attack.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Olympia & Sigilyph

[icy pendant]

the innate here

[brazen escarp]

Ah ok

Whats the max power forthis

[icy pendant]

maxes at 18 total stat raises

[cursive linden]

Can SSGA counter this?

[plush palm]

tbh nc blue can just set her up EZPZ

[icy pendant]

so +6 from evasion, +6 spatk, +6 speed, +3 crit

[brazen escarp]

Oh ok should be easy enough to get that hopefully

[brazen escarp]

Alright

+18 stats gives 2x power?

[plush palm]

she can also just calm mind

yes

[brazen escarp]

Isn't that worse than Lucian then

[plush palm]

and a bit more than that i think

[icy pendant]

18 stats is 2.2x right?

[brazen escarp]

His sync is 800 power

[cursive linden]

Calm mind spam?

[icy pendant]

rising tide and power play are 120% multipliers

[plush palm]

olympia might be able to get a extra sync in

unless he is ex

[brazen escarp]

He isn't exed

[brazen escarp]

Would that be able to compensate for almost double the sync power?

[plush palm]

idk? mine is 3/5 ex

Probably not

[brazen escarp]

Will is probably doing more dmg than her lol

[plush palm]

worth a shot tho

[brazen escarp]

The one with xatu

[warped gulch]

If you want….. you can grid SEUN from her

[vernal condor]

literally who

[warped gulch]

Nah, confusion suck so not even worth the try

[brazen escarp]

She is 1/5

[brazen escarp]

Why so?

[warped gulch]

Watse time

[brazen escarp]

But like he is quick setup and the raw damage is more than gio Lucian and olympia

Given that Lucian and olympia are 1/5

So he might be my best bet

[brazen escarp]

No way it takes more time than Lucian growl 6 times

And olympia he essentially does like double the dmg

[warped gulch]

….

Do you even check his SpA stats ?

[brazen escarp]

I'm using the dmg calculator and comparing their raw dmg

So it accounts for stats

[warped gulch]

Do you plan to use BP Barry ?

[brazen escarp]

No

Nc blue and elio

(so full gauge for power flux)

[warped gulch]

So no PT

[vagrant ivy]

anni steven DPS strats

[brazen escarp]

Pt?

[warped gulch]

Psychic Terrain

Free 50% dmg boost

[brazen escarp]

Ah that i could try PT

But then stat buffing is annoying

Also I think that in the long run I would get more with blue since he is exed

But barry isnt

[warped gulch]

Yeah

But idk, you can try Xatu

[brazen escarp]

Ig

[warped gulch]

I know he isn’t great bc that awful SpA stats but maybe he is better than 1/5 Lucian and Olympia ?

[brazen escarp]

Watch me be instantly disappointed

Stop hitting yourself could lowkey make it faster no?

[warped gulch]

You can grab it bc you dont have much stuff to grab anyway

[brazen escarp]

I lowkey messed up but still good

Better than my previous psychic score by 30k

[safe prawn]

I present you, another - remove the dmg cap you idiots- example

Our spheal shaped friend had the idea

999.999 by 2nd sync

[fluid anvil]

is that 10/5 SS Cyrus ?
and why Barry instead of Chase?

[safe prawn]

Max sinnoh circle

And no annoying healing passive

He’s spamming without charging infliction btw

[fluid anvil]

Barry adds x0.1 dmg, but Chases circle by itself is x0.2
also Chase has sprint role

[hard sleet]

I thought even if you capped damage and more damage is done than it might not show it but it’ll count the extra damage

[fluid anvil]

yeah I know, I tried that team myself, but with Chase

[vernal condor]

Invert did it before lol

[safe prawn]

But keeping 2 circles isn’t that great or am I wrong?

[vernal condor]

with chase instead of barry

[safe prawn]

Ups didn’t read

[vernal condor]

Well in your situation the 2nd circle is useless since you already reach the cap

[safe prawn]

Yup that’s why it’s not the optimal team rn

If we didn’t have the cap I guess Chase Marley Darkrai would be best

[icy pendant]

man if my Darkrai was even 3/5 I would probably use him

[olive panther]

Since I don't have Lear, would MC and Solgaleo or Anni Lillie better a better syncer?

[mellow falcon]

Hi, I'm starting to prepping up for the damage challenges at the end of the month.
I've a decent fighting and a flying so bad that I'm not even consider it, so I'm working toward an electric team.

Probably SS Emmet + Aaron or Guzzlord Giovanni and a electric striker for aoe, who should I invest into?

[vapid kernel]

Wow

[plush palm]

lillie has zone

assuming exr

[olive panther]

I could still use lillie for zone while syncing with mc

but if I'm not syncing with mc, I could try some other options

[plush palm]

tbh steel is a dps stage

might as well use solgalillie

[dire spade]

Did the nao strat with CS2 instead of SP3

[hazy trellis]

How can I make jacq do more damage? I know he can do insane damage but I don’t think I understand

[plush palm]

stnc spam

yeet rika

she brings nothing and wastes time

even barry is way better

and reset for a early eva buff on jacq

[cloud timber]

throw in bp barry to spam stun spore with charging infliction on grid to run down sync cd

fast way to farm syncs

max out jacq's sync multipliers and b move and save that for the end

[mild sigil]

Skinny's Anni May team hit 2.5 mil. I would need 2 more candies and 40k sync orbs though....

[brisk shale]

I did this with solgaleo

Fast track 2 on aaron

Catalyst, full bracing infliction and speed tiles on aaron
This on solgaleo
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764496288649052210/1335363433704718447/image0.png?ex=679fe59c&is=679e941c&hm=7262a6da45357848286455e5735e6c1ab8d5a3098c7833087511b14195b52775&

[hazy trellis]

Thank you, 😊

[hazy trellis]

Will do thank you!

[plush palm]

pushed another 350k on poppy

and then lost 140k on the jacq team despite caking him bc a sync didnt crit

oh well

it aint worth it imo

not for 3ish tix

[upbeat bluff]

Can someone help with Super Striker stuff?

trying the one Olympia team with Bianca and BP Barry but I'm only getting up to 600k.

Am I missing something wit hthe team?

[safe prawn]

Who is tanking?

[cloud timber]

make sure olympia tanks

[upbeat bluff]

???

[cloud timber]

and that her sync mults are all maxed and you have the right grid

evasion

saves time

[vapid kernel]

Thats too low for Jacq, Olympia exceeds tht

[plush palm]

no rosa

i got 1.77m on jacq last time

w/o exr

now after caking him i cant get my damn syncs to crit

[cloud timber]

you can if you just stop giving up early

[upbeat bluff]

Would I want Vigilance on Olympia or Critical Strike?

[vernal condor]

think about it for like, 2 seconds

[upbeat bluff]

...can I have a straight answer?

Because I'd want damage through critical strike but the one clear with this team is showing her with Vigilance.

[vernal condor]

vigilance does literally nothing for you

damage challenge is all about damage

[upbeat bluff]

Second attempt.

Which of these is best for Dark?

[icy pendant]

well rank 79, I did the math and I don’t think I have enough point potential to upgrade to top 20 so I think it’s just chill time

[plush palm]

f2p has terrible options

wow i keep forgetting how bad it is bc i just spam serena

[topaz gyro]

Hey guys. Do anyone have any links for steel super sparring? I am stuck at 3.2m and I know I can do more.

[icy pendant]

Start by looking at nao’s video linked in the doc, that’s a good starting point for understanding the sequence

[topaz gyro]

I am new here. Can you point me to the doc?

First time using discord as well. So it is a bit confusing.

[icy pendant]

+pins

[wispy pagoda]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[icy pendant]

^ This is mobile only, because desktop actually has a good pin UX

[upbeat bluff]

Any good strikers in here for the steel stage?

Would Raihan work?

I mean, for the spread damage, as well as Tech EXR

[icy pendant]

his only mult at 3/5 is sand, you’d probably have more success with Steven since you at least get Haymaker early

[upbeat bluff]

Fair, I guess. Any others?

[icy pendant]

both Solgaleos are also 1m-able

otherwise is that Rose or BP Rose getting cut off at the bottom?

[upbeat bluff]

BP, ir should be

I didn't get Rose during his banner.

[icy pendant]

ah, asking because PF Rose can 1m pure DPS even at 1/5 I’m pretty sure

[fallen trail]

he can

[broken swallow]

[upbeat bluff]

What works for a third then? Aaron? Marnie?

what should I hit for Steven's grid? Haymaker and Tough Synk, yeah, but anything else?

This is the grid so far.

Any changes to make?

[pallid girder]

Many f2p dark can do 1M with good supports which is NOT terrible at all.
Just look at fairy st, you’ll find dark st a heaven.

[versed shale]

Could you provide an example? There aren’t any MR nor Sidney 1M clears on the DC scores doc

[upbeat bluff]

Um...?

Still waiting to hear.

I'd be using that grid with AC Steven.